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have been tempted in restaurants just walking

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past able to grab some buddies rise

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the if they're just they're that as

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app and you guys I've done it

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and now years the marching band unaware

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that base and the habitual liar. I

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do. Not. Know this man well enough

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yet to say publicly that I

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love him. But I will tell

1:19

you all that I love his

1:21

work. Roy Would Jr. has tours

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coming up in Portland, Los Angeles,

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Tampa tour stops, Indiana, St. Louis,

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Chicago. If you want tickets Roy

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Would junior.com is where you go.

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It is nice to see you

1:33

again Roy. What what brings you

1:35

buy because I know you loved

1:37

sports? Is it because it's such

1:39

a giant day? The draft day?

1:41

Is it Job A What? What?

1:43

Makes you a sports hernia and live

1:46

on today. You.

1:48

Know dan need to talk a little

1:50

bit about. The. Draft: Weird

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Teams. Were. teams

1:55

allowed to their fan bases and give

1:57

them hope it may gang all yeah

2:00

hopes and dreams and disappointments in life on

2:02

the shoulders of a young man coming out

2:04

of a lot of NIL money. And

2:07

I know we want to

2:09

believe that this draft

2:11

is going to be the thing that

2:13

is going to change the lives of

2:16

your team. I'm here to

2:18

tell you it's not especially if

2:20

the team changed uniforms. I'm here

2:23

with stats since everybody wants

2:25

to gamble and everybody wants to

2:27

decide how to spend their money every season

2:29

gambling on stuff. I'm going to give you

2:31

one sure bet for this year for the

2:33

NFL. It is my gift to you and

2:35

your fans. This is stuff I couldn't do

2:37

in the Daily Show. This is why I

2:39

left the Daily Show. I said, hey, can

2:41

we do a sports gambling football draft segment?

2:43

And they said no. And I said, go

2:45

get Jon Stewart then. You're going

2:47

to give us a sure bet. You're going

2:50

to give it. You're promising the people. You're

2:52

daring to be bold enough to promise. Let's

2:56

not get in the lawsuit land. I ain't saying promise.

2:58

I said I will, you

3:01

know, maybe we should work on the name.

3:03

A semi-sure bet. Yeah, I like that bet.

3:05

Alright, semi-sure bet.

3:11

But you're doing it with data. You're not

3:13

gas-baking. See, you like facts. You're somebody you

3:15

don't, a lot of people have opinion, but

3:17

you like your stuff backed by facts. Yeah,

3:20

yeah. So we've got a couple of teams. I'll

3:22

move fast through this because it got a lot

3:24

of data to break down, but I'm pretty sure

3:26

I'm right on this one. More

3:29

often than not, I had a

3:31

belief that NFL teams only change

3:33

their uniforms when they've had a

3:35

terrible season. Oh, wow.

3:37

And it is a way to reinvigorate the

3:39

fan base. It is a way to get

3:41

people to buy merch again the same way

3:44

the Dolphins tricked me when they changed from

3:46

that, you know, the logo,

3:48

the sperm whale. That's not a dolphin.

3:51

Whatever that is on the helmet now, it's

3:54

not a dolphin. I love to. I'm

3:56

happy the team's competitive, but bring back

3:58

the dolphin with the helmet. Why

4:00

does this dolphin have no helmet on Dan Lebitar?

4:02

He's gonna get a concussion. You're

4:04

so right about this. Put it back on the

4:07

pole, Juju, at Lebitar's show. Bring back the dolphin

4:09

with the helmet on it. Yes or no? Oh,

4:11

Mike says no. Wait a minute. What do you

4:13

mean no? Because it becomes helmet

4:16

inception. The dolphin's wearing a helmet that the team

4:18

doesn't actually wear. So you have a dolphin and

4:20

a helmet on a dolphin helmet on a dolphin

4:22

helmet. It's kind of like the Baltimore Orioles logo,

4:25

where the Oriole wearing a hat is a logo.

4:27

But the hat that the Oriole is wearing isn't

4:29

the logo or hat that they wear. This

4:35

is fair. This is very

4:37

fair. But my point is,

4:39

I believe that teams psychologically

4:42

have to figure out a way to reinvigorate

4:44

the fan base. The draft is one part

4:46

of it, but the league has also figured

4:48

out now if we change the clothes, then

4:50

maybe you'll think the team is different. But

4:52

shout out to Matt and shout out to

4:54

all the stat nerds that you have on

4:56

your staff, Lebitar, brought up

4:58

some stats for you over the last 20 years.

5:01

Over the last 20 years, there

5:03

have been 23 NFL franchises that

5:05

have made some alteration to either

5:07

their logo or the

5:10

actual color scheme or uniform pattern

5:12

and also Commanders because

5:14

racism. We even threw that in, okay.

5:17

So out of

5:19

those 23 teams, I

5:21

want you to just give me a wild guess

5:24

of how many teams had a winning season after

5:26

changing their uniform. Well, I'm assuming since you're coming

5:28

on with big data, I'm assuming that it's very,

5:30

very high. But in order to help you,

5:32

I'm going to say two. Six.

5:38

I'm bad at the game. 23 uniform changes. 23

5:41

uniform changes. Only six

5:43

teams saw a winning record the following

5:46

season after the uniform change. It

5:49

is chronic how terrible teams are

5:51

after a uniform change. 2020

5:55

Chargers, Patriots, Washington Racisms,

5:58

all seven and nine. after

6:01

the uniform change. So it doesn't work.

6:03

Losing to, it doesn't work.

6:05

Like, it jinxes, like there's just something about

6:08

wearing that old shirt, that old jersey, that

6:10

old thing. You feel competitive in it. It

6:12

takes a year to adjust. We haven't even

6:14

had time to do the adjustments for Major

6:16

League Baseball, and what the hell is it

6:19

going on with the little tykes, with

6:21

the, you know, we don't have time. We can

6:23

all see their junk. So,

6:27

well, I hadn't been looking at that yet,

6:30

but also I'm a Cubs fan. It's cold,

6:32

so it retracts. So you can't, you

6:34

know, they don't drop

6:37

till July and Wrigley. 2013

6:39

was another one. Dolphins with the

6:42

sperm whale went eight and eight the next season.

6:44

Jaguars with two and 14 changed

6:46

the logo, went four and 12.

6:49

Attaboy! You want to know what happened to

6:51

your Vikings, Vikings fans? 2013,

6:54

10 and six changed the uniform next year, five

6:56

and 10. Stop messing

6:59

with the logo. Only

7:02

winning teams. The only teams with winning records

7:05

after changing their logo. 2018

7:07

Titans. 2017,

7:09

the Rams and Lions both got winning records.

7:11

Seahawks and Colts in 2012. That's

7:14

it. Oh, and the Bengals.

7:17

The Bengals went four and 11 to 21, and

7:20

old Joe Burrow slid into town and took them

7:22

10 and seven the following year. That helps, right?

7:24

We can change the logo, and if we make

7:26

the quarterback Joe Burrow, that's helpful. Yes,

7:29

yes, that's probably the only way. So,

7:32

23 teams, only six had winning records,

7:34

which brings me to this year's football

7:37

jersey changes for the upcoming 2024 season.

7:40

Oh, wow, so you're saying Bet the

7:42

Under, Bet the Under here on victories

7:44

based on your big data, right, your

7:47

game? And now we're into the semi-sure

7:49

bet from Roy Wood Jr. and Levitar.

7:51

Excellent. Semi-sure bet for

7:54

2024 Broncos. Jets,

7:56

Texans, Lions, all Bet the Under

7:58

500. I

8:03

like

8:07

C.J. Stroud too. I know they just had a free agent

8:09

pick up. I know they got some stuff going on in

8:11

the mix over there. Good for them. I'm

8:13

just telling you what the last

8:15

20 years of data says, which

8:18

is that three-fourths of the teams are going

8:20

to eat it. Houston

8:23

and Detroit are good though, Roy. They

8:25

seem like they'll test your theory. Okay,

8:29

yeah, they were good. So were the Patriots after

8:31

2020 when they were 12 and 4. Change the

8:33

logo, 7 and 9. Well,

8:38

but wait a minute. Something happened there other

8:40

than just the logo. We're

8:42

not going to talk about him retiring. That

8:44

had nothing to do. This is all... This

8:49

is a semi-ship debt, Dan Levittar. You will not poke

8:51

holes in this theory. Okay,

8:53

I'm sorry. It wasn't a

8:55

hole I was trying to

8:58

poke in. The quarterback also

9:00

seems to be kind of

9:02

important. But you're saying that

9:04

this is a marketing ploy in general. You

9:06

feel like you've proven, you feel like you've

9:08

unmasked the NFL on this their big

9:10

day. You can't fool us with your

9:12

hopeful lies just by changing the colors

9:14

or taking the helmet off a dolphin.

9:18

Oh, no, I'm not saying that it doesn't work.

9:20

I'm just saying the team's not going to be

9:22

good. I own three sperm wheel jerseys. Let's not

9:24

get it twisted. I even bought a Jay Cutler.

9:26

Look, I'm down bad as a Dolphins fan, bro.

9:29

They hurt you last year, didn't they? They hurt you.

9:31

You had hope for last year. Yeah,

9:34

we had a backslide in December, but you

9:36

know, you're a Dolphins fan. You're used to

9:38

something weird happening once the temperature drops below

9:41

whatever the hell. So, you know,

9:43

I think we come back next year. I think we'll be

9:45

fine. I have no idea what our needs are in the

9:47

draft. I am curious to

9:49

see if the Patriots trade down

9:52

and go into like an official rebuild year and

9:55

just let Mack Jones hold the fort down for

9:57

a little bit. Well, he's been traded to Jacksonville.

10:00

So he's going to be holding the fort down

10:02

over there probably. I've been watching baseball. This

10:07

is the first day that I've checked in

10:09

on football. There's,

10:12

I do think,

10:15

I was too busy watching Caitlin Clark. I

10:17

didn't have time to keep up with your

10:19

off season moves. It kicks in. It's

10:22

fair. It's fair commentary. He's got shows

10:24

coming up in Portland, Los Angeles, Tampa,

10:26

Indiana, St. Louis and Chicago. Get tickets

10:29

at Roy wood, Roy wood jr.com. Any

10:32

thoughts on Reggie Bush, uh, getting,

10:34

getting back his Heisman. Good. And

10:36

put them back in the Heisman

10:39

house commercial immediately. Give

10:41

the man that, if I was Reggie,

10:43

I'd take that Heisman trophy and go outside and

10:45

spike it upon it

10:48

immediately. That would be good on social. Huh? If

10:50

he took it and I don't want it anymore

10:52

and just broke it. Yeah,

10:55

but that's the ultimate disrespect. So, you

10:57

know, good for him. I'm glad that

10:59

we're actually trying to retroactive. It's like,

11:01

it's the closest the Reggie Bush Heisman

11:03

fiasco is the closest we have in

11:05

sports to like the retroactive marijuana

11:07

laws where they let people out of jail

11:09

now and go, Hey man, sorry about that

11:11

weed arrest. It's a different world

11:13

out here. Now I hear your

11:16

trophy back, bro. I think you've

11:18

got a good idea though, they're encountering

11:20

the disrespect that they did to him

11:22

and his achievements by countering it by

11:24

just destroying this trophy once he gets

11:26

it back. I think the NCAA knows

11:29

the truth. None of this is going

11:31

to matter in 10 years when we

11:33

have a full fledged college minor league

11:35

NFL G league as XFL system. That's

11:37

owned by the rock Roy

11:40

wood, jr.com is where you go. It's

11:42

good seeing you again. Don't be a

11:44

stranger. We want to see you soon.

11:46

All right. Broncos, jets, Texans, lions, all

11:48

under 500. Lock it up

11:50

for sure. Love you, brother. Hey

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Lebatard. Where the motherf***er Roese at?

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Bring his ass on here. Where's

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the motherf***er Roese at? a great

14:00

question. Stu Gatz. Running, huh? He's

14:02

running today, huh? I'm ready. This

14:04

is the Dunlebatar Show with the

14:06

Stu Gatz. It's

14:16

a sports equinox. Every sport

14:18

is happening. Even American football, we got

14:21

the UFL, battle hawks, defenders. So things

14:23

on other sides of the sports spectrum may

14:26

be fallen by the wayside. And I want

14:28

to make sure that we highlight these other

14:30

sports, particularly tennis. Okay,

14:33

now it's not super sexy right now. We

14:35

don't have a major going on. We're ramping

14:37

up for Roland Garros. But I saw a

14:39

video that I submit to you and our

14:42

audience as the most French shit you'd ever

14:44

see. I did try, Quenco.

14:46

I told you. I can't get it myself.

14:49

It doesn't matter where we play. It

14:51

doesn't matter where we play. We

14:53

don't provide coffee. We

15:04

don't provide coffee. Time.

15:20

Quenco, I told you the decision. We need to play now. You

15:26

provide bananas is a wonderful

15:28

sentence to yell at management.

15:31

He was like, it's not asking for

15:33

caviar. Give me a freaking coffee.

15:35

So Jess has done some research and found

15:37

that this tennis player in particular has made

15:40

requests in the past and he's

15:42

kind of a bit of a character. I

15:44

will say that makes for a bad victim

15:47

in this place because he's kind

15:49

of right. I

15:51

have talking to, and I know you've gone

15:54

at some folks with this, anonymous former pro

15:56

tennis players, and

15:58

he should have coffee. His

16:00

point about you guys provide bananas and

16:02

water and electrolytes, they

16:05

usually provided coffee. We

16:07

provide coffee. And you

16:09

know, one of the things I love about Formula

16:11

One is if you walk through the paddock, you

16:13

see a bunch of fancy espresso machines in the

16:15

Ferrari section. They provide coffee. I've got to

16:17

be honest about this though. If you make

16:19

me think of tennis, I genuinely, generally

16:22

think of it as something that is

16:24

coffee free. That a tennis

16:26

player isn't going to want the

16:28

dehydrating aspects of coffee while he's

16:31

playing. I understand perhaps the needing

16:33

of caffeine, but when I think

16:35

of tennis players, no, you

16:37

might as well tell me provide cigarettes because

16:39

it does, it seems to run counter to

16:42

what they're doing out there to have your

16:44

body dehydrated by coffee. He

16:46

probably asked for cigarettes. That

16:49

would make it the most French thing ever. Yeah. Well,

16:51

it's not like they don't lack for things

16:53

to replenish the dehydration that coffee might

16:56

bring. Tennis players are coffee

16:58

fiends, but like I said, it's not the

17:00

first thing he stepped into, Jess. You reached

17:02

in to the internet and you dug out

17:04

some things. I

17:09

love the way Mike says it. He's a tennis

17:11

player from France and he called Sitzipas' dad

17:13

stupid, I guess, a couple of years ago

17:15

for talking while he was serving. And he

17:18

also asked for a Pepsi once during a

17:20

match. I'm not sure

17:22

if coffee is dehydrating. I've read conflicting reports on

17:24

it because it is, it does contain a lot

17:26

of water. And he wasn't asking for espresso. He

17:29

was asking for, I assume, I mean,

17:31

he must be espresso. He's French. I don't, I don't

17:33

know, Dan. I mean, coffee would be a great

17:35

thing to have before a tennis match. You're just

17:37

on your feet, you're faster, you're thinking quicker. It

17:39

just, it makes you awake. It makes you feel

17:41

alive. Why wouldn't you want a coffee before a tennis

17:44

match? I thought it was dehydrating. And

17:46

the reason I thought it was dehydrating

17:48

is because I passed out

17:50

on a sidewalk. I told you

17:52

guys this story oddly enough. This

17:56

was funny for a number of different reasons, but

17:58

I'm coming to it was at that. point

18:00

the scariest moment of my wife's life,

18:02

okay, because I'm sitting outside on a

18:04

sidewalk, on a sidewalk cafe in the

18:06

middle of the afternoon, and I'm staring

18:09

at my wife and next thing you

18:11

know I'm waking up with paramedics around

18:14

me because I've just passed

18:16

out. And that morning I had

18:18

sprinted on the beach with Billy

18:20

Gill doing the recreation of the

18:23

Rocky scene. The

18:25

paramedics were asking me in my haze, like

18:27

they were trying to go through, well what

18:29

happened here? Why do you think you passed out?

18:32

And I'm like, I do not know. And they're

18:34

like, did you exert yourself a great deal earlier

18:36

in the day? And I'm like, well yes, actually.

18:38

I did sprints out of nowhere on the beach,

18:40

like dozens of sprints on the

18:42

beach. You also grabbed his butthole in that video.

18:45

I think it's a kool-o. Yeah, my

18:48

bad. So it was the sprinting, not the coffee. No,

18:50

but then I asked them, or they asked

18:52

me some more questions in my haze and

18:54

they asked me if I had had enough

18:56

water and I said no, and then they

18:58

asked me how much coffee have you had

19:00

today? And I'm like, too much. And so

19:02

they said yes, coffee dehydrates. Again, when I

19:04

think of tennis players, if you were to

19:06

say to me, hey, tennis players, now I

19:08

know that they drink coffee in the lounges

19:10

and in the clubhouse and everywhere else, but

19:12

if you told me next to the

19:14

court, I would have guessed no on that one.

19:16

I would have just guessed no. I drink coffee

19:19

when I'm playing every sport, really,

19:21

when I'm doing every workout. Before I go

19:23

for a run, before I go to work, I

19:25

mean, it's a good thing to have around. It's

19:27

a really good thing to have. But you think

19:29

science says, is conflicted about this? So put it

19:31

on the poll, please, at Leb in

19:51

the comments. can

20:00

get the shakes from coffee, especially if you're

20:02

a little bit more dehydrated. What

20:05

do you guys do with this stat, Juju? This

20:07

one's going to hurt you. I don't know if

20:09

you, maybe you felt this, but I don't know

20:12

if you know it numerically. This is from X

20:14

Comunicado Tim Reynolds. The

20:16

Celtics at home in the regular season since

20:18

May 1st, 2022, 69 and 13. The

20:23

Celtics at home in the playoffs since May 1st of

20:25

2022, 10 and 13 at home in the playoffs.

20:32

This is one of the best home teams we have

20:34

ever seen. To see that game never

20:36

really get close. To see Miami

20:39

have a

20:41

punch for every punch that Boston was throwing

20:43

and then, and this part's interesting, right? I

20:45

don't know that it means anything because a

20:47

lot of series happened one-one at the beginning

20:50

and then the better team wins in five

20:52

or six games. But

20:54

when you start combining

20:57

something that could be felt on

20:59

your television in that game, which

21:01

is, oh, they're missing all

21:03

of their shots and that place has

21:05

gotten awfully quiet, unusually

21:07

quiet for what that place is

21:10

historically and for the bravado and

21:12

all the chests of the regular

21:14

season. Oh wow, when the shots

21:17

are not falling like that and

21:20

you realize the growing force of there's

21:22

Bam getting confidence against our Porzingis in

21:24

the middle and our Porzingis doesn't look

21:26

like he's looked all season and also

21:29

hasn't been here the last four years

21:31

the way Bam's been blocking Tatum's shot

21:33

at the rim since the bubble. You

21:36

say this in front of a screen

21:38

that is looping Celtics fans leaving the

21:40

arena early and if I must say

21:43

it's on the right now, I always

21:45

found that kind of whack because I'm

21:47

a South Florida sports fan and I've

21:49

often been at the receiving end

21:52

of national pundits. Sometimes it's

21:54

worth having the conversation over. Sometimes

21:56

it's a gotcha thing and it's

21:58

super effective because it gets under

22:00

every. fan skin and I've literally

22:02

forced myself to stay in my

22:04

seat for blowouts So

22:06

I'm not a contributor to

22:08

these memes If

22:11

you understand like I totally get it. It's

22:13

a school night. Why should I watch the

22:15

final 30 seconds? But

22:17

I remind myself I've got to watch

22:19

the final 30 seconds because the Boston version

22:21

of Will Manseau is going to loop this

22:23

behind Dan Levittard The thing about

22:26

this that I have always found Really

22:30

amusing and I

22:32

think the people listening to this

22:34

probably can't step back from it

22:36

quite enough to find

22:38

it amusing The

22:41

idea of getting hurt wounded rabid

22:43

and defensive because you're not enough

22:45

of a fan of something Is

22:49

one of the funniest things that you

22:52

will find in sports that doesn't have

22:54

a place anywhere else as an insult

22:57

It's not an insult to say that you're 98% a

22:59

good fan But what

23:01

you have to do to be a really better

23:03

fan is sit there and support your team when

23:05

you're disgusted with it And sit in traffic you

23:08

punk. That's right. Go home late and deal with

23:10

all your deal with you You

23:13

went to this place to get away From

23:16

all of your problems to have it

23:18

make you feel better about things You

23:20

use it as your escape and then

23:22

you dare to leave your seat 30

23:24

seconds early because you don't want to

23:26

get stuck in traffic with Chris Cody

23:28

Fighting about your morals with somebody because

23:30

you try to get out of traffic

23:32

a little early and what do people

23:34

seize on with great judgment? You're inadequate

23:36

in the way that you care the

23:38

way that you care and not just

23:40

the way that you care The way

23:42

that you care about the way a

23:44

basketball bounces with other human beings that

23:46

doesn't involve you touching the basketball in

23:48

any way You don't care about that enough and

23:50

you're like I do I do I

23:52

care about it unreasonably. It's a part of

23:55

my identity I wear another adult man's Jersey

23:57

with his name on my back because I

23:59

want his identity identity so much, what do

24:01

you mean I don't care? You

24:03

don't care enough, you left early because your team was

24:05

down and you're disgusted with it. I'd

24:08

say the fans who left early care more than the

24:10

others who sat there in their own filth, sat

24:12

there in their own, the other ones want to be like

24:14

no I came here for my escape, you

24:18

didn't give it to me, I'm leaving disgust, I don't

24:20

want to be, I don't trust what I'm going to

24:23

say around you, I've got to leave. I always heard

24:25

that if you don't have nothing positive to say, leave

24:27

the game early. I

24:29

will say beating traffic is

24:31

awesome, like when you're at a

24:33

crowded arena and you're just out of there, you're cruising

24:35

out of there like 10 minutes before the rush. You

24:37

just got a Jessica I roll right now. There's

24:40

just something about it though, Jess come on you've left

24:42

early. Come on. Fans. You've

24:45

done it, come on. I don't know if I've ever left early. Oh come on. I'm

24:48

seriously. Bull honky. I'm

24:50

paying for a... What? Bull honky?

24:53

I didn't want a curse. If I'm paying for a

24:55

ticket I better soak in every minute of that game.

24:57

Oh yeah. That's my money.

24:59

I'm leaving early. That costs $5, so 30 seconds. Is

25:02

this because Gracie's here? I

25:04

mean it is awkward today. A lot of

25:07

cursing in this place. Bring your kid to work. You

25:09

know how Jalen Hurts had

25:11

his background for a full year, just him

25:13

watching the celebration of the Kansas City Chiefs?

25:16

That's how I now approach forcing myself

25:18

to sit in these seats when I

25:20

feel bad. I just take the

25:23

Jalen Hurts mentality of remember this. Remember

25:25

that we didn't kneel. Remember that

25:27

that wasn't a fumble. Remember that

25:30

you kicked over this water bottle

25:32

tower that your daughter built in your

25:34

luxury box. Because when we

25:36

come back you're going to remember these low

25:38

points. You didn't remember it when you left the

25:40

UNC Miami game early though. I

25:43

had to get to somewhere. There

25:46

was a flight. I had to get to LA.

25:48

I had to get to LA in Chapel Hill. That's a weird

25:50

town to grab an Uber in. Can

25:53

we examine for a second just the idea of

25:55

this though? Because I know it is a way

25:57

to judge other fan bases. I don't know. that

26:00

there's a fan base that gets hit with

26:02

it more. Go ahead and tell me all

26:04

the fan bases that get hit more with

26:06

a lack of caring than the Miami Heat's

26:08

fan base, which again has sold out its

26:10

arena since 2010, the sixth longest streak

26:14

in NBA history. It's something

26:16

that sticks to Miami fans even though

26:18

it's something that everyone does and I

26:20

would just ask the group of you,

26:23

why do you have to stay somewhere you

26:25

no longer want to be in order to

26:27

prove to somebody on the internet that you

26:29

are the fan you think you are that

26:32

that person doesn't think you are? You know

26:34

Dan, that would be a bar if you

26:36

weren't actually making the problem worse right now

26:38

by sitting in front of a monitor that

26:40

is looping that behavior. As

26:42

art, mocking it because those

26:45

are the very people that do that

26:47

to Miami. Boston will tell you that

26:49

it's fan allegiance, that it's a regional

26:51

pride and a cultural identity unlike any

26:53

in sports. You were brushing your teeth

26:55

in a brush off with Celtics legend

26:57

Paul Pierce yesterday. My brush was three

26:59

times the size of his for the

27:01

record. A brush off

27:03

is something we need to get Feldman

27:06

on a toothpaste sponsor so that Paul

27:08

Pierce gives sterling takes brushing his teeth.

27:10

I mean when your teeth are that

27:12

expensive you have to brush them constantly.

27:14

With those porcelain chompers it is I'd

27:16

be brushing nonstop too. What

27:19

was the move there by Paul? Was it just

27:21

like I don't want these people to think I

27:23

think they are important so I'm just going to

27:25

do this while brushing. I don't know is that

27:27

like a thing he does regularly or was that

27:30

to disrespect us a little? I was confused. It

27:32

was cool. I like it. It was cool and like

27:34

some people were sending me clips of him talking his

27:36

shit while it was happening and my first

27:39

thought was man that's a boss move I need to

27:41

find a bigger toothbrush. I

27:43

did not have Paul Pierce as a prop

27:45

comic but we can put up

27:47

on the screen. You put up on the

27:49

screen. You brush off between Paul Pierce and

27:51

Mike Ryan. I did think it was unusual

27:53

and I didn't feel like I was being

27:55

shoved around in my own home but now

27:57

that you point it out. coming

28:00

in casually brushing his

28:02

teeth. I've been

28:04

criticized in public areas for putting lotion

28:07

on my skin. That's something to be

28:09

done privately. I've been criticized for using

28:11

a Q-tip, emerging from the bathroom.

28:13

People say these are things that are to

28:15

be done privately. I

28:18

am someone who has blind spots

28:20

in this area. This is not

28:22

something I would ever do on

28:24

television. Arrive so casually that I'm

28:26

like, you know what? I'm

28:28

not sure if my teeth are clean

28:30

enough. I'm not even caring that you've

28:32

already started. I'm going to brush my

28:34

teeth while you ask me questions. But

28:36

this is a person who has spent

28:38

a lifetime answering questions about his professional

28:40

work while nude. So he's

28:42

living in a different, the locker room

28:45

space is vastly different than the rest

28:47

of your workplaces. Yeah, I feel like

28:49

most people are worried about debris if they're

28:51

doing this in front of a camera.

28:53

I'm happy that you stopped lotioning your

28:55

skin while we were having

28:57

conversations, because that's like peak Bond

28:59

villain behavior. I didn't

29:02

know it was weird until you guys

29:04

pointed it out to me that putting

29:06

lotion on your skin in front of

29:08

people was something that was villainous. But

29:10

now that I think about it, I

29:12

would love a movie villain that slowly,

29:15

very slowly though, sinisterly. No, Mr. Bond.

29:17

I expect you to die. Why

29:21

do you got, what else is it

29:23

in this realm? The Q-tips, these are

29:25

the two places I feel what it

29:27

is that you guys are talking about.

29:30

You're also a big toothpick guy, but

29:32

that one's just more socially acceptable. But

29:34

you had a crazy cinnamon toothpick phase.

29:36

I did love, I do love cinnamon

29:38

toothpicks and flavored toothpicks, but that is

29:40

different. Although that, I don't even know

29:43

culturally what, they'll give you some of

29:45

those in restaurants sometimes. Culturally, like Razor

29:47

Ramon made that a thing. So it's

29:49

totally socially acceptable down here in South Florida.

29:51

I got one. If your underwear gets caught

29:54

in your behind in public, brother, you gotta

29:56

walk around the corner and get that out

29:58

for your advice. Don Lebatar. I

30:00

think I would have been on his side. I want to see you like

30:02

what did you say? I'm telling you me and

30:04

my friend the rest of the way home all we

30:06

kept saying was I ain't cheating Stu

30:09

Gatsz I think he

30:11

got your ass. I think he got your ass. I got

30:13

his way Chris Chris won this one for sure not that

30:15

It's not that bad. It's not that bad. It's not that

30:17

bad. It's not that bad. Jeremy. It was great This is

30:19

the Dunlebatar show with the Stu Gatsz On the pole at

30:21

Levitar Show If

30:35

you're having to pick a wedgie do you

30:37

need to do that in private as

30:39

a courtesy to others? And

30:42

also put on the pole at Levitar

30:44

show Is it weird to put lotion

30:46

on your skin in front of others?

30:49

Because everyone's good with it at the

30:51

beach right suntan lotion and all that

30:53

that's the acceptable place Do you also

30:55

think that internationally Mike what it is

30:57

that you're saying is so on all of

30:59

these things whether it's lotion Whether it's a

31:01

q-tip whether it's brushing your teeth in public

31:03

You think all cultures are uniform and saying

31:05

Dan is weird doing that in front of

31:07

people no matter where you are I think

31:10

if you have a conversation

31:12

with you know someone in

31:14

the United Kingdom and you're lotioning yourself up They're gonna turn a

31:16

corner. Maybe not even say it. I love it in their head.

31:18

They're gonna be a bit weird, isn't it? The

31:22

kid Maro's about to be here in a

31:24

moment perhaps we will ask him for some

31:26

help in Legislating a

31:28

few of these things are you

31:31

guys? Interested at all in this

31:33

Tom Brady roast hosted live by

31:36

Netflix by Kevin Hart Netflix

31:38

is obviously trying to do some

31:40

different things in the streaming age

31:42

I don't know what's being reported,

31:44

but I assume that Amazon is

31:47

going to get some basketball stuff I

31:49

assume that we're going to see a

31:51

seismic Uphievel of how

31:53

the how basketball does business in

31:56

its next contract with its partners. There is

31:58

a real chance that Turner Does

32:00

not get the NBA package and

32:02

it's like so synonymous. They built our entire

32:05

network around it and I Imagine

32:08

if I'm one of these other streamers that

32:10

ends up getting one of these NBA packages

32:13

because if you're the NBA Despite

32:15

the arrow not pointing up you got

32:17

everybody you could possibly want in this

32:19

game in terms of stalking horses If

32:22

Amazon just has to build NBA coverage

32:24

out of nowhere Just by

32:26

Turner's coverage and just move it from

32:28

one network to another But

32:31

yeah, there's a real legit shot that

32:33

inside the NBA as we know it

32:35

may not exist I will

32:37

say something Chris Cody Can you get

32:39

the imaging please that warns people so

32:42

that they could skip this that I

32:44

am talking about some stuff here? That

32:46

is inside media that has

32:48

to do with ratings and how

32:50

it is that sports are bolstered

32:52

by their partners because all of

32:54

this to me is Fascinating what

32:56

it is that's going to change

32:58

here and what you presently see

33:01

happening throughout hockey all of

33:03

the road teams Won last

33:05

night in hockey and hockey

33:07

ratings are up ESPN

33:09

I will tell you from

33:11

inside the bowels of ESPN

33:13

having already seen it once

33:16

When ESPN supported hockey a long

33:18

time ago It was obvious in

33:20

their coverage and it was then

33:22

obvious in their ratings when ESPN

33:24

supported baseball with its package It

33:26

was obvious in their coverage and

33:28

it was obvious in their ratings

33:30

And now as you

33:32

watch what is happening at

33:34

specifically ESPN Where the

33:36

people there who are around baseball are?

33:40

Hurt by how little the

33:42

network seems to care about baseball

33:45

Those resources and that interest is

33:47

being poured into hockey It is

33:50

being poured into Pat McAfee show

33:52

Pat McAfee cares deeply about Hockey

33:55

and you see it in the numbers

33:57

and the rating get

34:00

annoyed every time Dan Letatore pontificates

34:02

about the sports media industry. Well,

34:05

too bad, love. We don't

34:08

seem to care about you.

34:10

But here's to what I'm

34:12

saying. First question

34:14

is... Happy! I

34:19

think the correlation is actually indisputable because

34:21

we've lived long enough to watch it

34:23

happen on the network. Hockey did not

34:25

matter at ESPN. It did not matter

34:27

nationally. It mattered internationally, but

34:29

did not matter in the United States. You've

34:32

seen it with baseball and now you're seeing

34:34

it with hockey again. These are great hockey

34:36

playoffs. ESPN is celebrating them and you see

34:38

the numbers going up in a way that

34:40

make Jessica yawn enormously. Well,

34:42

hockey's presentation was a built-and-set

34:46

template and it left ESPN.

34:48

It went to first versus,

34:50

which rebranded as NBC Sports.

34:53

And the sport really suffered. It suffered

34:55

because of a couple reasons. Multiple lockouts,

34:58

one postseason erased because of

35:01

a lockout and because

35:03

there wasn't... They were on an

35:05

over-the-top cable channel, but there wasn't

35:08

really good shoulder programming dedicated to

35:10

it. It was a niche product

35:12

with very little mainstream exposure. And

35:14

hockey players were always presented as

35:16

not really super engaging. Back when

35:18

you were growing up in the

35:20

media game, Dan, they weren't necessarily

35:22

recognized as good talkers. But now

35:24

because of social media, because the

35:26

players are generationally changing, they're about

35:29

this. They're engaging. They're engaging media

35:32

companies like Barstool giving main channel

35:35

attention to hockey, leaning into a bit

35:37

of bro culture that's always been associated

35:39

with hockey. It makes it seem

35:41

like a cool sport. Pat McAfee, I'm glad

35:43

that you shouted him out. Him just platforming

35:45

the NHL makes it seem cooler

35:47

and it just gets a conversation going.

35:50

These social clips, I'm sure that Bobrovsky

35:52

save was a massive social clip. All

35:54

that stuff helps and it's not really anything

35:56

that existed with this sport prior to. are

36:00

up. They're not just up a little bit. These

36:02

are gargantuan increases when it comes to this sport.

36:04

It's absolutely having a moment. Roy, Mike

36:07

Ryan came in today and proclaimed

36:09

something that I found shocking to

36:11

hear given that I'm going to

36:14

say 18 months

36:17

ago, Bobrovsky was one

36:19

of the more frustrating players who had ever

36:21

come through South Florida for people who care

36:24

like you and Chris Cody and Mike Ryan

36:26

about hockey. Mike Ryan is now claiming that

36:28

Bobrovsky is a Hall of Famer. Yeah, I

36:30

mean he's won two of the trophies but

36:33

18 months ago he wasn't playing up to

36:35

the contract that the Panthers signed him to

36:37

and then all of a sudden Stanley Cup

36:39

final and now where he is right now?

36:42

Yes, he's played up to do his contract

36:44

and yes he could be in

36:46

the Hall of Fame. I can't believe what you're

36:48

saying though. Yeah, there's a couple factors as to

36:50

how this turned around. First off, you got to

36:53

give credit first and foremost to the player Sergei

36:55

Bobrovsky, but also the Florida Panthers kind of realize

36:57

how to manage this player and it's something to

36:59

keep an eye on here in

37:01

the postseason. I'm very much subscribed

37:03

to you play a guy till

37:05

he gives you a reason to

37:07

not play him. That's the NHL

37:10

playoffs, but Bob's minutes were managed

37:12

in ways this year that allowed

37:14

for Florida to have

37:16

the second best goals against average with their

37:18

goaltenders right now. Stellar is

37:20

giving Bobrovsky the occasional breather has

37:22

really helped manage that man's minutes

37:25

and you're seeing right now with

37:27

Winnipeg and Hellabook, a guy that

37:29

played a ton, he's all of

37:31

a sudden struggling. He's by

37:33

head and shoulders going to be the Vesna winner

37:35

and he's given up double digit goals here

37:38

against the Colorado Avalanche who are a very good team

37:40

in their own respect. You also have to give credit

37:42

to Bill Zito for the team that you put in

37:44

front of Bob because they are stout defensively especially 5

37:47

on 5 and even strength. Jessica, what

37:49

is that that you are trying to put

37:51

atop that pink thing in your right hand

37:53

that you're trying to put atop the Mountain

37:55

Dew Mountain? A fan's fan willow, a cupcake.

37:58

Thank you. A fan mail. you something

38:00

for that's extremely thoughtfully. No, it was actually

38:02

addressed to Willow. Okay, so

38:04

Willow, she had to have it? She

38:07

received mail here. She did. It is

38:10

gluten free. Can confirm.

38:13

I believe that if

38:15

we open the portal to the audience

38:17

mailing Willow gifts, I think you're going

38:19

to have a whole lot of gifts

38:22

for Willow and there

38:24

go all of the cans in the

38:26

other room. Mike is a saboteur. Who

38:30

ordered the code red? Oh, was that

38:32

distracting while you were on the air?

38:34

My bad. Jeremy, go

38:36

sit in the penalty box again

38:38

for pulling back the curtain on

38:41

something that was supposed to be. Willow has a Venmo too, by

38:44

the way. Go!

38:47

What Mike mentioned

38:50

about the

38:52

change in hockey players and

38:55

public facing hockey players. It's

38:57

not just a change in

38:59

athletes being more comfortable talking

39:01

freely. Foreigners

39:03

often have difficulty in their second language

39:06

showing the range of their personality. And

39:08

as I sit here having seen Bobrovsky

39:10

change from Hall of Fame, from guy

39:13

you were mocking to Hall of Famer,

39:15

I would have made the argument at

39:18

any point that I'd like to hear

39:20

from Bobrovsky on how that happened. In

39:22

English, I'd like to interview him on

39:24

what it felt like to doubt and

39:26

be bad and to now be back

39:28

to Hall of Fame form and I

39:30

don't feel that if I sat for

39:32

an hour with Bobrovsky doing an English

39:34

language interview that I would be

39:36

able to get the full force

39:38

of his humanity or personality. Goalies

39:40

are also odd in every sport. You

39:43

kind of have to be a

39:45

psycho to play that and sometimes

39:47

it just doesn't translate for several

39:49

reasons. English could be your first

39:51

language and you're not necessarily the most giving

39:53

when it comes to an interview. Bob was

39:55

interviewed about the the bobbery that they've started

39:57

making shirts over and it wasn't really anything

39:59

interesting. But I would love to

40:01

give credit once again inside the Borsal

40:03

family, Spitting Chiclets. I think it's

40:05

a huge deal. They have Pink Whitney, which is a

40:07

very popular drink. These guys are cool and they

40:10

bring on other hockey players and they give them

40:12

this relaxed platform and not only that, but one

40:15

of the co-hosts is on TNT Studio coverage and

40:17

TNT who found the formula

40:19

with their NBA side just replicated it

40:21

on the NHL side. Biz is a

40:23

really interesting character. He's great with the

40:25

studio show. I think that platform,

40:28

Spitting Chiclets, has really elevated the

40:30

sport because it's turned a lot of people on

40:32

to it because it's undeniably a cool show. Yeah,

40:34

Paul Biznet and Ryan Whitney and RA, they do

40:36

a good job on that show. That show is

40:38

three hours long and they do it multiple times

40:40

a week. But you're not going to get

40:42

anything out of Bob. Absolutely not

40:44

going to get anything out of Bob. He

40:47

has a low voice, he's soft-spoken, he's too humble to be talking

40:49

about. Well you got something out of him when you went up

40:51

to the All-Star game and I got a minute and a half

40:53

out of him. Hey everybody, it's

40:55

Mike and typically I record these Miller Lite

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spots in the studio but I requested that I

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specifically record this one from my home office because

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I got a window and I'm looking outside

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at those beautiful fishtail palms knowing that in just

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a few seconds I'm going to go out

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there. I'm going to crack open a can of

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Miller Lite because while sitting outside by my

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fishtail palms is usually a good time, I like

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to take it up a notch and make it

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a Miller time. That's right, you crack that

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puppy open and you don't have to think about

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what you're drinking for a darn second. A

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lot has changed over the years including my

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backyard, lots of landscaping being done

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right now. But the one

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thing that hasn't changed is the undebatable

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quality of Miller Lite. You don't have

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to choose what quality is the best.

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Miller Lite has great taste and it's

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less filling. Tastes like Miller time. To

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get Miller Lite delivered right to your

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door, visit millerlite.com/Dan or you can find

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it pretty much anywhere that sells beer.

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done.