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Did I tell you I got a puppy? Oh,

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yeah, that's right, I did. I spent a lot of

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time yesterday. We

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brought her in. So she's in the back with

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Tyler, and Tyler is sitting there as

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a babysitter. I just heard her.

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How's she doing? Should I go check on her? It's

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like when you have a baby and

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you try to be quiet around the baby, when the baby

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takes a nap and you're just walking by,

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and then all of a sudden you'll knock something

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down and then you'll hear what

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they're like, I'm just gonna take a nap.

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That's the feeling we have. So we have a couple of

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dogs in here, Penny, and then of course

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we have Winnie. So Winnie is sitting

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by Tyler the moderator. Yes,

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he Winnie sounds like the

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squeaky toy you give to a dog. Oh

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you're here? Is He's a little like, No,

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No, that's that's Tyler, Tyler. That

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is Tyler. Welcome to the program.

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disclosure here. I was so excited

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to watch my MVP candidate last

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night against the seventy six ers.

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I tuned in for Steph Curry.

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I had had my drink, I

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had my puppy in bed, you

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know, she was asleep, and I

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was all alone, and I was settling

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in to watch Steph Curry light

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up McLevin seventy six ers. That's a big night.

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Well it didn't last long because

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Steph was throwing the ball away,

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had a up with turnovers. Early they

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were down like ten to nothing, and

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I thought, you know what, let me check

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out Entertainment Tonight or Access

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Hollywood or TMZ. I

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settle in watching those shows for an hour.

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I go all right, I'm gonna give

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Steph Curry one more chance, and

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I tune in, and all of a sudden I couldn't

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turn away. He was

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lighten up to seventy six ers. And

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then you start to look at the numbers that

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he's put up in the last

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nine games. So at forty nine

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last night against Philadelphia, forty

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seven against Boston, thirty

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three against Cleveland, forty two against Oklahoma

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City, fifty three against Denver, thirty eight against

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Houston, thirty two against Washington, forty

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one against Milwaukee, thirty seven against

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Atlanta. Those are his last

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nine games. He

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didn't create the three point shot, but

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he created the concept of taking

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a lot of three's volume. Any

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One an MVP based off shooting

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threes. When you think about it, he changed

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the game. He changed the game more than any

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other player in history. Because

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everybody thinks that they can be like Steph

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Curry. I can't be like Shack,

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I can't be like Michael Jordans. I

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can be like Steph Curry. Hey,

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you don't have to be fast, quick, powerful

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jump out of the gym. You just have to

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be to shoot with a high degree

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of difficulty from very very

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deep. And it's not that easy. We

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all know that, but what he does, how

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he's done it. He gives us a subtle

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reminder occasionally, because we love

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to move on. It's like, Okay,

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we've seen Steph Curry. Who's next, and

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then you'll see Luca or

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it's Joe LMBI or the Greek freak

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Damian Lillard. Like we move on, all

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right, we've seen this, and then Steph

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brings us back in. He reminds

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us, at age thirty three,

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he is still one of the most exciting,

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dynamic, interesting players

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of all time, and he was injured

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last year. They

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don't have Clay Thompson. Draymond

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Greene is a good player, not a great

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player. James Wiseman is

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now out for the rest of the season. Their first round

4:16

pick Durant's gone. It's

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Steph Curry. Now he's not going to win

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the MVP, but you're

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gonna see and hear a lot

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of people tell you today maybe

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he can get back into the MVP conversation.

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You know where I stand on the MVP. You want

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to give it to the Joker or Joe lmb Great

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Joker had a great night last night. They

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won in double overtime over Memphis. But

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Steph Curry is having a

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wonderful season. Most games

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with at least ten three pointers

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all time. Steph Curry

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has done it twenty one times, four times

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this month, four in the last

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eight days. Clay Thompson

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is next on the list with five, James

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Harden three, Damian Lillard three,

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j R. Smith three, Zach Levine

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two. Twenty eight players are tied

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with one stat of the day,

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stat of the day, best out

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of the day, stat of the day.

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Here comes that what stat

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of the day

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Warriors beat the seventy six

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or Steph drops forty nine.

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But you start to look at what

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he has done to the league and

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how others have followed suit. Because

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if you watch a high school game, au

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junior high game, kids

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think that that's a good shot and

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it's not, but they think it

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is because Steph Curry does

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it well. There's only a couple

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of people in the history of the sport who

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can shoot anywhere near what Steph Curry

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does, and he's

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not stopping because he can't.

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He has to continue to do this, and

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they're trying to get in for the play in game, fighting

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for their playoff lives here and doing

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it in the Western Conference right now, Now,

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mclovin did say in a cynical

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voice this morning, well, who's

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he doing it against? No,

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he's on this Eastern tour where nobody knows how

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to cover him and he's dominating everybody.

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Wait, after all these years, they

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don't know how to cover him, like

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Atlanta, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Boston.

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No, they no, they don't know the Steph Curry

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rules. I know Denver was in that mix. Wait, what are

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the rules? Well, you have to I mean

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you have to just really

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push at that pick a roll up that forty

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feet away and you got to cover him from fifty feet

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Okay, wait a minute, hold on, Yeah,

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if you mclovin

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on the Dan Patrick Show know how

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to cover Steph Curry, don't you think

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other teams on the East Coast would have an idea how

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to cover him? They don't you think in season

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Atlanta's scouting Steph Curry though they

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have no idea, they should hire me because I could

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tell them how to stop step And

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by the way, there was another thing going on last night. He

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had his little brother on the court. He was so

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confident when Seth wouldn't match up with him. That

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was a big brother beating up a little brother. Well,

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Seth got the better of him early and

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then all of a sudden, Steph took

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over. But his brother was guarding him,

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and that's he was not kind.

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He was picking on his brother last night. Yeah, I'm

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a club. Well you're in a good moon. This morning, I'm gonna

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ruin it by saying, is it Steph Curry

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or was it the analytics of the Warriors to

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change the games, because they came in when Mark Jackson

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got fired and said, hey, the three is more valuable

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than the two. We want you to shoot twenty at he's a game.

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I feel like some of that happened. You still

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have to have somebody to do it. Now, everybody's

7:40

got I watch an NBA game, there's six guys

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who can can shoot from Tempe Bindock

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not like him. You still have to

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have the people to be able to do

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it. Now you can talk about analytics. Mark

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Jackson was there before Steve Kurb, but Steve

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Kerr was a three point shooter when he played,

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and you got Clay Thompson. They stood,

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Hey, spacing and ball movement,

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and that's what they do better than anybody.

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That team. You know, those teams

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that won Championships. The ability to

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move the ball was unprecedented,

8:13

and they did it on the perimeter, and they did it

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in an unselfish manner. Now

8:18

you don't have Klay Thompson, no

8:20

James Wiseman. You got Wiggins,

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who's been pretty good the last week

8:25

or so. But there's no real consistency

8:27

where Steve Kerr goes, hey, I know I can count

8:29

on that guy. It's basically Steph

8:32

Curry. And Steve Kerr

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has run out of ways to describe Steph

8:38

Curry's performances. I don't

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know what else to saying. You know, you

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guys ask me after

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every game what I think of

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Steff and his performance, and it's whatever

8:50

I said last game. Just use that tonight

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because it's the same thing after every game.

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It's just utter amazement

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at this guy's skill

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level, heart, mind,

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focus. It's

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just amazing to watch. Yeah, it

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is. And Steve Kerr played with Michael

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Jordan, so he's seen this. But

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this is a phenomenon, and I

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know that it's there on a nightly basis, not

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to the degree that we're seeing right now. But

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Golden State used to be prominently

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displayed primetime games. Not

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anymore. But if you see it,

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you happen upon it. You're usually transfixed

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by what he does. Back

9:34

when they were competing for championships, then

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we saw this all the time. Now you kind

9:39

of have to find Steph Curry. Yes, mcle

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you said before the season that if Clay was playing

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that you were going to say the Warriors

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were a favorite, but they could be in the title

9:48

mix. Do you think this team could have been

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top four, top three in the West. I

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don't think they would be battling for a play in spot.

9:56

You know, maybe they're a fourth or fifth spot.

9:58

But I thought that you get

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them in a series, they can

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beat anybody. And even

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now with Steph Curry, if Steph in his

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seven game series has four

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of these kind of games, you

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might steal a first round matchup

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here. But

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without Klay Thompson in there, then

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no, I don't think they would challenge for a championship.

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But I truly thought I didn't

10:24

like James Wiseman. I wanted

10:26

them to take LaMelo ball because I just

10:28

thought, boy, that gives you another weapon

10:31

on the perimeter, and he's so good at passing

10:34

and he can get to the hoop. I just thought

10:36

that that would make it really really interesting

10:38

for defenses, and I thought they could challenge for a championship

10:42

maybe next year. But you know, Wiseman

10:44

is still a project there, and Steph

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is thirty three, Klay Thompson hasn't

10:49

played in a long time, and Draymond

10:51

Green. Draymond's not getting

10:53

better. I mean, he's

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sort of leveled off and he knows who he is,

10:58

how he plays, what he needs to do for this

11:00

team. But they

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might make one more run and that would be

11:05

it. Eight seven seven three

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d P Show email address DP at Dan Patrick

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dot com, twitter handle a DP show. Chris

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Simms, NBC Sports will join us.

11:13

We'll talk about the NFL draft movers

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and shakers. I don't believe

11:18

anybody who says something publicly

11:20

when it comes to the draft, when it comes to

11:22

teams. You know, it wasn't that

11:24

long ago when the Cowboys were quote

11:27

unquote reportedly intrigued

11:29

by Kyle Pitts, the Florida tight

11:31

end. I'm intrigued by a lot

11:33

of things. That

11:36

doesn't mean I got a

11:38

shot at that. I mean, hey,

11:41

the Cowboys are intrigued by Kyle Pitts.

11:43

Okay, good luck getting

11:45

him. He's not gonna be there at ten. If

11:48

you're intrigued, you don't say anything,

11:51

and then you move up and you

11:53

may make a trade with the

11:55

Dolphins at six, and maybe

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he's there. Now. The

12:00

Cowboys are receiving phone

12:02

calls about their tenth pick overall.

12:05

Do you think they're really receiving phone calls

12:08

or would they like you to believe

12:10

they're getting phone calls? Are they hoping

12:12

to get phone calls?

12:16

If you're getting phone calls, you wouldn't announce you're getting

12:18

phone calls, would you. Here is

12:20

Steven Jones, the Cowboys c

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oo on one oh

12:25

five point three the fan in Dallas. You

12:27

know, we're starting to get a few calls, and I think

12:29

it'll only pick up as we get closer

12:32

to next Thursday. It'll

12:35

only pick up. And you

12:37

know, they kind of give you the call, Hey, if

12:39

our guys they're you

12:41

know, would be interested moving up to the pick,

12:43

and may want to even you know, throw out

12:45

a few things like well what would it take? And

12:47

they do say, hey, we've got you know,

12:50

a player two or three that if they're there,

12:52

we might be willing to be aggressive

12:54

and give you something to move up to

12:56

that pick. Alrighty, Okay,

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maybe so maybe somebody is

13:02

interested in that pick and ge getting some phone calls

13:04

there. That's usually when you're

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selling your house, you say you better act on it

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now. I got a lot of interest in it. You

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got any offers? No, but a lot of interest,

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yes, Todd. That's a very car

13:17

salesman, sleazy cutter, like this

13:20

is this is the offer. And then they go up to the back

13:22

and pretend to talking to the invisible manager to give

13:24

you the

13:26

invisible manager. We talk to my manage. I'll

13:29

see what I could do. But I'm we have to make a little money off

13:31

of this. I can't just give I'm already giving you the call off

13:33

free. Yes week eleven, there are some reports

13:35

that the Dolphins want to move back and the Eagles

13:37

want to move up, And did they already

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do a trade from six to twelve? The

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Dolphins want to move up. They

13:44

want to move up or back? They want to move up, Oh,

13:46

to get a quarterback? No, they want to get

13:48

Kyle Pitts. From what I'm told, there's

13:51

a lot of reports in Philly the Eagles want to move up from

13:53

twelve to six, seven or

13:55

eight. Yeah, I shouldn't

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they have just gone back a month in life, and they would have been I

14:00

have no That's what I'm saying. Confused they were there.

14:03

I think they had the six pick a month ago. I don't

14:05

know if Miami you're gonna have

14:07

to be in the top five, I think to get Kyle Pitts.

14:09

It feels like that. But look,

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this is all interchangeable.

14:13

It's all fluid, and you're

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trying to believe what somebody is telling you.

14:18

And I don't believe when somebody publicly

14:21

is representing a team is saying something.

14:23

I just there's no reason to do that unless

14:25

you're doin that to mislead. Yes,

14:28

but you know what, every day I changed my mind because

14:30

I hear one little nugget. I heard dan

14:33

Orlovsky and I think he said he could

14:35

see the Vikings drafting a quarterback.

14:37

Now it's changed my whole thinking. I'm looking at the board, how

14:39

did the Vikings go up? And how

14:42

can they get there? Yes, they've got much

14:44

bigger fish to front. But I always wonder if they're snickering

14:46

behind closed doors as they watch these mock drafts.

14:48

Once they say one of these things out to the media

14:50

and watch someone from two go to five and nine

14:52

goes up to three based on something they just threw

14:55

out there. Well, remember where Mac

14:57

Jones was three months

14:59

ago? He went in the first

15:01

round, right, Kyle

15:06

Wilson. Kyle Wilson in October?

15:10

I was Zach Wilson. But you

15:14

got Justin Fields.

15:16

Wasn't he two a couple of months ago?

15:19

Then he was dropping down? Maybe you'd be there for

15:21

the patriots at fifteen? Like it. This

15:23

is what happens when you get a lot of people

15:25

involved in this and you feed the machine.

15:28

The machine needs to be fed every single day,

15:31

every single day, every single hour. You're

15:33

clicking on a website. What do they have? You're

15:36

looking for the headline there? Oh,

15:39

patriots could move up to four? Okay,

15:41

click, Falcon's

15:43

gonna be moving out? Who could

15:45

move up? You gotta feed

15:48

the machine. Yes, it's funny,

15:50

right because right, they might move up, which

15:52

also means they might not. Yeah,

15:55

it's true, they might, they might not. Yeah,

15:57

I'm not an insider. I

16:00

can play one on radio or TV. It's

16:02

really easy to do it. Hey, I got a source.

16:05

Well, nobody's gonna say hey,

16:07

at gunpoint, who's your source. I'm

16:10

not gonna tell you no who I

16:12

can just say I have now, Thankfully

16:14

I have people I can trust and I give you information

16:17

that proves to be true. But you

16:20

know, anybody can have a source or

16:22

you get this. You know I'm hearing from

16:25

who just hearing?

16:28

It could be from my neighbor, Hey,

16:30

my son, and I'm hearing oh

16:33

okay, Like okay,

16:35

how do you prove that? Yeah? Mclub, what's this about

16:38

the Patriots moving to number four? Killed

16:40

me? In I would I would stay in the car

16:42

to hear the rest of this. No, no, no, no, I'm

16:44

just saying this is what people

16:46

just put it out there, and it

16:49

could be from somebody who knows somebody who knows

16:51

somebody. You know, it's the game of telephone,

16:53

and that's always dangerous. That's

16:55

why whenever I find out something, I

16:57

always want to know, Okay, who where

17:00

this originate from? And what's

17:02

the agenda there? Because it

17:04

feels like everybody has an agenda, Like why

17:07

would that person tell this person?

17:09

Who would then tell me? And

17:12

this happened with Russell Wilson. I

17:14

had no connection with Russell Wilson or

17:16

his camp. Russ came on

17:19

said what he said, and then I followed

17:22

up because I

17:24

reached out to a source who said, hey, this is

17:26

a marriage that cannot last, okay,

17:30

And then after that I found out what the

17:32

Bears were offering Russell Wilson for

17:34

Russell Wilson. That didn't come from Russe's

17:36

camp, and

17:38

it didn't come from the Bear's camp because the Bears

17:41

were not happy with me either. It

17:43

was somebody who said, this is what's

17:45

going on, and I trust this person. Do

17:50

we have a poll question today? Chris Sims will join

17:52

us coming up. By the way, Rebecca Lowe,

17:54

the very talented NBC Sports host

17:57

the Premier League, We'll join us, coming

17:59

up next Premiership.

18:02

So who would the Patriots take a number four? We

18:05

have a silly one here, but actually

18:08

true. Which basic sports

18:10

fact do you not know

18:12

the answer to? How many innings are

18:14

in a Major League Baseball game? How

18:17

many NBA playoff teams there are, how

18:19

many NFL games are they going to play next year?

18:22

And what exactly is the Super League?

18:24

Those are the four questions they are any easy

18:26

answers there, Well,

18:29

baseball, I know it's nine innings. It's the that's

18:34

not true the

18:37

most of the time, most of the time

18:39

in nine innings. Occasionally, a baseball game

18:41

is nine in Yes, yeah, most of

18:43

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18:46

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19:05

break. Chris Simms will join us. Chris

19:07

Simms has been saying for a

19:09

long long time that Mac Jones is going

19:12

to the forty nine ers. The forty nine

19:14

ers, they're doing their due diligence because they've

19:16

gone to Justin Fields Pro days, they've gone

19:19

to Trey Lance's Pro days. Is

19:21

he sold that they are locked

19:23

in on mac Jones. We'll talk to Simms.

19:26

He'll join us. Coming up next. It's twenty

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20:16

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right now is who? Chris? Oh,

20:38

you mean, like just as far as the draft's concern,

20:41

right, I mean, yeah, I mean strategy,

20:44

Yeah, I mean Ford Atlanta

20:47

is very interesting. Okay, I mean we

20:50

know why. I feel like we've talked about that a lot.

20:52

So let me just throw a different one out because I am interested,

20:54

Like, you know, all right, let's just hit on that.

20:57

Matt Ryan, he's mid thirties.

20:59

What is thirty six? I mean, we

21:01

know this day and age right now. That's that's

21:04

like thirty two fifteen years ago. It's

21:06

it's it's a different meaning now, you

21:08

know. So what are they gonna do? Well? They you

21:10

know, everybody has Trey Lance pin to them. Are

21:12

they really going to do the quarterback thing? And

21:15

you know, get rid of a quarterback who I

21:17

look at and go he's got at least two three good

21:20

years left at least, you know. Or do

21:22

they go with Kyle Pitts and make that offense

21:24

like really special that way with Julio,

21:26

Calvin Ridley and a Kyle Pitts And I say, whoa

21:28

watch out? So I guess that would be the first

21:30

team that would jump out to me. I

21:33

have one other one. Do you want me to mention it or not? Yeah,

21:35

but you're on the clock with Atlanta. You gotta make

21:37

your pick right now who you take. I'm going Kyle

21:39

Pitts. I'm going Kyle pitz Yes, he's

21:42

that special in all ways. He

21:44

fits like more than one position

21:46

for your offense. And I'm not just gonna

21:48

throw away a franchise

21:50

quarterback that I look at to go. He's got

21:52

at least three good years left to draft,

21:55

a quarterback for the future way

21:57

down the road where I can't see, and

21:59

a terback who hasn't played in two years,

22:02

and now we're gonna let him sit behind another quarterback

22:04

for a year. I mean, how long can we

22:06

go without playing the position? That's why it doesn't make

22:08

quite sense all the sense to me. Dan.

22:11

Okay, so the other team you're intrigued by

22:13

on draft night is who Carolina

22:15

Panthers at number eight? I mean, really, this

22:18

top ten is all, but like, Okay,

22:20

they answered their quarterback

22:22

question. I'm more intrigued with them to go.

22:26

What position is it that they're really

22:28

looking for? Right? I think that's

22:30

the one I look at. I mean, we got the Bengals.

22:32

I feel like it's gonna be receiver or

22:35

tackle. You know, we Dolphins, I think

22:37

we all got a good feel for that. Detroit. I'm

22:39

not sure, but like the Panthers have a lot

22:41

of things on their roster to kind of like you

22:44

know, they have I believe tackles.

22:46

They got Taylor Moten, Greg little

22:48

who they drafted a few years ago. We know receiver

22:51

Duo Good. That's

22:53

the one where I'm just not sure where they're gonna go.

22:55

They got Shaq Thompson and Hassan Reddick to

22:57

play linebacker. They got two

23:00

d ns who were drafted in the top forty

23:02

picks of the draft. So they're

23:04

they're the team that I go, who is it gonna be?

23:06

And I guess I'm what I'm thinking is they're gonna take like

23:08

the top corner off the board. Maybe that's where

23:10

Patrick certain goes. You

23:13

have any problems with the profile

23:15

with Sports Illustrated with Trevor Lawrence's comments

23:17

that he doesn't play to win awards

23:19

and he's not motivated

23:21

to the same way other quarterbacks, doesn't

23:24

have a chip on his shoulder, Well, it

23:26

doesn't bother me. I mean, first

23:28

off, what's he supposed

23:30

to this is I've had this conversation with Floorial

23:32

and like, what's he supposed to have a chip on his shoulder

23:34

about? Right now? What I want to be awesomer,

23:37

Like I want somebody to make me

23:40

not number one. I want them to make me

23:42

zero. Like. So he's got

23:44

nothing to be chippy about so far. You

23:47

know. And what I'll say to that too.

23:49

You know, again, I think like being chippy

23:52

and having that drive and all that, that's something

23:54

that's kind of grown, right, you

23:56

know, Michael Jordan. You can't beat

23:58

the Celtics, you can't beat the Pistol, you

24:00

can't get to the finals, all of that. You

24:02

know, Tom Brady, of course, the pick

24:04

and the draft and all that. So I think there's got to be

24:06

some adversity in your career before you

24:08

start to get that chip. But I

24:10

will say this, you know, it's

24:13

it's a fair question because people were

24:15

questioning Justin Fields, and I feel

24:17

like we're doing a disrespect to Justin Fields,

24:20

who showed nothing but love for the football

24:22

game. And if he made those comments,

24:25

there would have been issues and people would have dissected

24:27

it. And I think it is fair to at

24:29

least dissect it with Trevor Lawrence and bring

24:31

it up. Bring it up. Imagine if Sam Darnold

24:34

said this, right, I see

24:36

ghosts and now this too,

24:38

right. I mean, yeah,

24:40

that's again. I don't want to read too

24:42

much into this, and different things motivate different

24:44

players. The only thing that it's

24:47

gonna stay with me for a little while only

24:49

because who would have thought that Andrew

24:51

Luck two years ago would walk away from the game when

24:53

they finally got the line good

24:56

team was good. He only was

24:58

sacked eighteen times, and he walked away

25:00

from the game because I don't know how important

25:03

football was to him. So that remember,

25:05

he was the guy that nobody criticized.

25:08

He was the can't miss prospect,

25:10

the next John Elway, and he walked

25:13

away from the game before he was

25:15

thirty years of age. I think

25:17

that's Dan. I think you're spot on. I think that's

25:19

why it's a big topic of conversation. First

25:21

off, I think everybody in the NFL has

25:24

that, you know, scar from

25:26

Andrew Luck or the fear of that happening

25:28

to them on their radar. I mean you

25:31

said it right, the Colts are imagine

25:33

if the Colts right now had Andrew Luck, we'd

25:35

be going Are they the favorites to go to the Super Bowl?

25:37

Or are they the top three favorites to go to the Super

25:39

Bowl? All those type of things. Remember

25:42

it was kind of a question last year with Justin Herbert

25:44

right when he was coming out. Oh

25:46

he's smart, he has other interests in life.

25:49

He's never really left the Oregon area.

25:51

Would he be one of those guys? So teams are looking

25:53

for that, and I think you're exactly right. That's why that's

25:56

probably being a little over evaluated. We're

25:58

talking to Chris Sims, Pro football Tuck Live,

26:00

co host on Peacock NBC Sports.

26:02

But I maintain that we

26:04

will talk ourselves out of somebody

26:07

we're going to draft. It's rare when you talk

26:09

yourself in. You're looking for what's the negative

26:11

here? And instead

26:13

of going, what does that guy do that's positive? And

26:15

I go back to Patrick Mahomes. Teams

26:18

talk themselves out of Patrick Mahomes

26:20

because they thought that he was farv

26:22

like Careless, did

26:25

it in the Big twelve, didn't

26:27

win a lot, right, And so you

26:29

talk yourself out of it instead of saying,

26:32

what kind of command does this guy have? Like

26:34

his presence, his arm, imagination,

26:37

all of those things. And you know,

26:40

justin Herbert memory, he's too quiet.

26:42

He's not a leader. He's too quiet. He's a bubble

26:44

boy. He's been in a bubble. Yes, yes,

26:46

So that that's what happens here. You

26:48

talk yourself. I think teams are talking

26:51

themselves out of justin Fields. I think they're

26:53

going you know, here's the not

26:55

way. What more do you want from a quarterback

26:58

than what he has given you on a national

27:00

stage? Sure, listen, I understand

27:03

that, and I'm with you with the over

27:05

analyzing thing. Listen, we can go through a lot of

27:07

players like that, right, like DK Metcalf.

27:10

You know, what was there not to like? Oh,

27:12

one of the greatest athletes on the planet. We didn't

27:14

see his full route tree. Oh

27:16

no, I don't know if one of the greatest athletes

27:18

on the planet could go to that white line

27:21

and make a right hand turn. I'm not sure.

27:23

Let's knock him down. Remember, I mean he was a workout

27:25

wonder. Oh I can't stay

27:27

work out? Okay, all right, but what

27:30

does he have? That's that's what I want

27:32

to know. Because I'm gonna play to your strengths. Agreed,

27:36

agreed, exactly right. You're gonna play to

27:38

those strengths. You're not gonna ask him to do things

27:40

like that. And you know, for

27:42

a lot of the times, I don't think people just take

27:44

take it for what it is. Your your analogy

27:46

with Mahomes is right, I mean it is, Oh,

27:49

he has some Brett farving him. Okay, why because

27:51

he throws off his back foot or he

27:53

has a strong arm. He didn't throw a ton of interceptions

27:56

or make bad decisions in college. It

27:58

wasn't like you were watching the film going, WHOA, this kid's

28:00

stupid. This is crazy, you know.

28:03

So you're right, they do over analyze

28:05

Justin Fields. Sure, he's

28:07

under the microscope, there's no doubt about

28:09

it. I do feel like the narrative

28:12

around him was probably a little

28:14

bit more positive than it should be going into

28:16

this process. You've heard me say this before.

28:18

I do think the people that you know

28:21

that that really matter as far as the

28:23

evaluators. The reason you're

28:25

hearing these questions about Justin Fields

28:27

just because they're they're rising up the ranks

28:29

out of their mouse and people important positions

28:32

in the NFL that have those issues. And

28:34

he's a boom or bus prospect for me, that's

28:36

what he's really tricky. He's a tough eval

28:39

you know. Dan. First off, to like what you would

28:41

say, I would go listen, all the quarterbacks in Ohio

28:44

State have looked really good for the last ten years, all

28:46

right, so they're gonna win and have open receivers

28:48

and look awesome at all of that. You know,

28:50

But We're talking about a guy that's being talked about

28:53

top five, and there's just I think

28:55

some things that have his game, especially

28:58

with just the amount of throws where

29:00

I think you see sometimes you just go, WHOA, how

29:03

could he be this good and then miss

29:05

these throws like this to this degree?

29:08

And I think that's ultimately what scaring teams

29:10

more than anything about justin fields. How much

29:12

time did you and Florio spend on Julian

29:14

Edelman Hall of Famer? We'd

29:18

spend a segment on it Foxborough forever.

29:21

Yeah we did. I mean, I

29:24

think we squashed it pretty quick.

29:26

NFL legend, Patriot legend.

29:29

You know, I'll always think of him

29:31

that way. But hall of Famer, you know,

29:34

I think that's that's a that's a little

29:36

crazy in my opinion. But is it hall of

29:38

Famer homeless snats? Because

29:40

if I look at fame, Julian

29:43

Edelman has fame in the biggest

29:45

games. Yes, well,

29:48

but you know I could also argue, you know, they

29:50

didn't get there in those games because of him necessarily,

29:52

he wasn't the primary reason. He

29:54

was just a really important I

29:58

get it. You know, the v p's lost his luster

30:01

a little too. He's an awesome football

30:03

player. He's awesome. Wait, wait,

30:05

when did the Super Bowl MVP lose its

30:07

luster when they just vote for the quarterback

30:10

every year? It's just quarterback, quarterback? Way,

30:12

the defense was awesome quarterback. Hey,

30:14

you guys scored thirteen points. Quarterback. I

30:16

mean it's just it's it's all about that. I

30:18

would have given somebody on the defense the

30:20

MVP last Super Bowl, not Tom

30:23

Brady. I agreed that

30:25

that Super Bowl. I think the Rams

30:27

Patriots one we're talking about there,

30:29

that should be a defensive MVP. I

30:32

mean we could go back to Brady's

30:34

first MVP against the Rams,

30:36

right, I mean, come on, ty

30:38

Law, how to pick six? The defense was the show of

30:40

the day. That was the greatest show on turf.

30:43

You know, the Giants with straight hand

30:45

and Justin Tuck when they did the Brady and

30:47

that Super Bowl. Uh yeah, That's

30:49

why I get a little frustrated with the Super Bowl MVP.

30:51

Whose career would you want? Calvin

30:53

Johnson's Julian Edeman.

30:56

Oh, it's

30:58

a good one, and I'm gonna let you. You're in money

31:00

too. Yeah yeah, I mean I wasn't

31:03

even factoring that in. I mean,

31:05

as a competitor, a showman,

31:08

a guy that loves football. You

31:11

know, in a lot of ways, I'd probably take Julian

31:13

Edelman. You know, all the big

31:16

games. You get to play in like you talked about,

31:18

and be a part of the Patriot Way

31:20

and everything like that. You get to play with Brady

31:23

and learn from Belichick and all of that,

31:25

and play more years. You

31:27

know, I don't know, there's a part of me that sounds like

31:30

that. Sounds like a lot of fun. Now, being the

31:32

tallest, fastest, freakiest

31:34

guy guy on the field is

31:36

is pretty awesome too. Like Dan, I went

31:38

and through to Calvin Johnson and

31:41

his pro day that Tampa Bay Buccaneers

31:43

right after I lost my spleen. Okay,

31:45

this was one of my first Oh boo hoo, you

31:48

lost your spleen. Yeah, screw that or

31:50

overrated thing. No

31:53

you don't, you only got one. But

31:56

but this was one of my first moments

31:58

of where after I heard it, I went, WHOA,

32:01

I don't think I'm normal. Something that's wrong here. I

32:03

flew to Georgia with

32:05

John Gurdon and Bruce Allen to throw the ball

32:07

to Calvin Johnson and as

32:10

I'm warming up, I'm going wait, I feel like

32:12

I have no control over this football. What

32:14

the hell is wrong with me? But either

32:16

way, I threw so many crappy

32:18

passes during that workout, and

32:21

this guy just was go, go, gadget

32:23

arms or jumped through the roof to get it,

32:26

or turned and twist his body. He caught

32:28

everything. I looked amazing. I

32:30

mean, it was really a show, a spectacle,

32:33

and he was a truly, truly special specimen

32:35

if he could catch those throws I was throwing that day.

32:38

Would you rather have the career of your

32:41

dad? Yeah? Or

32:43

Dan Marino? Oh

32:46

that's a good one. Oh man,

32:48

I've got I've said this to my dad

32:50

before and I was like, I don't

32:53

know. I've brought this up with him, and he's like, well,

32:55

damn the hell with my Super Bowl rings.

32:57

I want Dan's money, That's what he said. So

33:00

that's where dad falls on it. So

33:02

your dad would take Dan Marino's dad

33:04

would take dance, and I'd probably take dance.

33:06

Still, great

33:09

to talk to you. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you, Chris

33:12

anytime. Because that's Chris Simms. He doesn't

33:14

have a spleen. Chris Simms

33:16

Pro Football Talk Live co host with Mike

33:18

Flora, who knows what a spleen does? I'm

33:22

looking at the back row here, Todd,

33:24

do you know what a spleen does? I

33:26

thought my guests would. We have to do it with wastes

33:28

and breaking down things to you

33:30

get the most out of your Yeah,

33:33

filters poisons out of your system, much

33:35

like what Todd just said, or it creates

33:37

some sort of hormone. Okay,

33:43

does But there's a gall bladder, there's there's

33:45

kidneys, there's what's your liver? D I

33:48

thought your liver did all those things. Yeah, but

33:50

your kidney also does those things. Paulie,

33:53

what do you think a spleen does? I don't know where it

33:55

is. Like if I had a point on my body, I would have no idea.

33:57

I thought I had something to do with preventing infection.

34:00

That's been my best guess. I

34:04

think we could make you wait waiting

34:07

for something. Somebody's got some spleening to do. That's

34:10

what I was not waiting for. Gallbladder.

34:13

I can't even make up a guess. What's the gall

34:15

bladder? Dude, I don't know, but

34:18

let's stay on the spleen seton. It's

34:20

like the uh, there's like you have a bladder

34:22

and then a gall bladder. That one's a little more feisty.

34:25

The gall of that bladder, do

34:29

we can we look up what I

34:31

like, Just like

34:34

it's one of those that you don't want to know what it does

34:37

until you have to know what it does. Yes.

34:39

The spleen is part of the part of the body's lymphatic

34:42

system. The lymphatic system helps remove

34:45

waste, maintain fluid balance,

34:47

and uh prevent infections

34:49

while keeping white blood cells for the

34:51

immune system. It is also responsible

34:54

for making substance that play important role in inflammation

34:56

and healing. Yeah, you want to

34:58

talk about a terrible job. Gall bladder's

35:00

got it. You want to know what gallbladder does. Yes.

35:04

Gallbladder is a small pouch that sits

35:06

just under the liver. The gall bladder stores

35:09

bile produced by the liver. That's

35:12

just the worst. That's like a landfill. That's a landfill

35:14

of body part. That's the landfill of body. But it's

35:16

like it's the bile from the liver and the liver

35:19

is the I bet it's necessary.

35:21

It seems necessary, but it's the overflow

35:24

from the liver. The for a meal of

35:26

the gallbladder may be full of bile and butt the

35:28

size of a small pair. Oh. The spleen

35:30

sits in the upper left part of your abdomen. It's

35:32

located behind your ribs. I cam't

35:34

be in front of your ribs and under your diaphragm

35:36

and above and behind your stomach.

35:39

Yes, ton I had my gallbladder removed a few years

35:41

ago. I don't know if that explains things more or less,

35:43

but they took it. I

35:45

was getting a lot of heartburned and they just

35:47

decided, you know what, let's get rid of it.

35:51

But it sounds like it's a lot more important than an appendix.

35:54

Who has their appendix? Like, I still

35:57

have mine, I still

35:59

got my tonsil, I

36:01

still have my TONI. I still my wisdom teeth. I

36:03

still have my wisdom teeth too. Yeah, and I think

36:06

they're in there for life. I don't think they're coming out, yeah

36:08

at this stage. Yeah,

36:12

I had my adnoids out. I don't know what those are,

36:15

but I had them out. But that's attached to your tonsils,

36:17

right, Is that the package

36:19

deal? Your tonsils and adnoids. I had to have them

36:21

taken out because when I was a kid, I got ear infections

36:23

a lot and then they took out whatever my adnoids

36:26

are. And then they stopped. Who who's had something taken

36:28

out recently? A

36:30

young man, I had empathy and caring taken out and

36:35

never had I

36:37

got my knee taken out. My old

36:40

knee you can't take out in thee I think you

36:42

They shave it down and then replace parts,

36:44

right, so I had parts

36:46

of my knee take it. But you weren't kneeless. But

36:50

they shaved stuff off, right. They thought, that's

36:53

I think they saw it. Todd,

36:56

I know you've had stuff removed. I always was flattered,

36:58

even as a youth, when I would my mouthtick see if I had

37:00

stepped through it, and they'd say, wow, you have huge

37:03

tonsils. And somehow I just felt like

37:05

I ended up walking with my chest down at the apartment.

37:07

It looks like Todd's has stuff put in that taken app Yeah,

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38:02

and Paulie brought up the Super League.

38:04

I said, who do you want to have on? I said, well,

38:06

let's get messy. And then they said

38:09

we can't get messy. I said, what about Ronaldo.

38:12

They said we can't get Ronaldo. I said,

38:15

well, then get Rebecca Low. He said,

38:17

we'll reach out. Rebecca Lo, the presenter

38:19

of NBC Sport Group's Premier

38:21

League coverage, pre and post match

38:24

the Premier League Live. They have a match

38:26

today at two eastern. You have

38:30

Chelsea and Brighton coming up at

38:32

two eastern. Good morning, Rebecca. How are

38:34

you. Dan Patrick lovely

38:36

to see you. I'm very well. I will come

38:39

third behind Messi and Christiano Ronaldo

38:41

any day of the week. Now, I would

38:43

pass on Messi because I don't think he's

38:45

a great interview. So you're second on the list

38:48

behind Ronaldo. Appreciate,

38:50

Okay, I'll probably

38:52

Okay, let's say I'm a child

38:55

and you're going to explain the Super League to

38:57

me. How would you do it? Oh

38:59

my god, what a question. Okay, I would

39:01

explain that currently in the Premier League

39:04

there are twenty teams and they always

39:06

have been since it was formed in the early nineties.

39:09

Six of those teams who have self

39:12

branded themselves the Big Six. So

39:15

we're talking Manchester City, Manchester United,

39:17

and Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea.

39:20

And yes, they are six very big clubs

39:22

and they tend to do better than any other club in

39:24

the Premier League. Those Big Six have

39:26

gotten together rather secretly, it has

39:28

to be said, with some other very

39:31

big clubs across Europe. We're talking ac Milan,

39:33

Juventus in Italy, into Milan, Barcelona,

39:35

Real Madrid in Spain and there will

39:38

be They are saying they have signed

39:40

a contract to create their own midweek

39:43

European Super League ESL

39:46

is what they're calling themselves, which will take place

39:48

They wanted to start as soon as possible in August

39:50

and it will take place midweeks throughout

39:52

the season. But it will let those clubs

39:55

still play in their domestic leagues

39:57

in the UK or in France, or in Italy

39:59

or in Spain. The problem

40:02

with the situation is that this

40:04

is a ring fence league. This is,

40:06

for want of a better word, an americanized

40:08

league. So once you're in, you're in. You're

40:11

never going to get out, no matter if you become rubbish

40:13

overnight. You're in, you're in. You

40:16

can only go into it the

40:20

provider that you have an amazing one season

40:22

in your league, but then you might have to lose

40:24

it again. You might have to go out again. The ones that

40:26

found and actually have created this

40:29

league can never fall out

40:31

of it, which means they will get very

40:33

very rich. JP Morgan

40:35

is backing this league. As thing stands, they are

40:38

due for a round over four billion

40:40

pounds to share between them. So when

40:42

they get that rich and they go back to their

40:44

domestic league. The gap between

40:46

the likes of United and

40:48

City in Chelsea and Liverpool and they're the likes

40:51

of burnleye Crystal Palace in Southampton will

40:53

be bigger than ever before, which will mean Ultimate

40:55

League competition disappears

40:58

out of the Premier League and as

41:00

Pep Guardiola, the Manchester City manager, said

41:02

this morning, it is not sought if

41:04

it doesn't matter if you lose, and if these teams lose

41:07

in this European super League, it doesn't matter. There's no relegation.

41:09

They stay forever. So there is a lot of

41:11

controversy around this, but that

41:14

is it, in a nutshell, a breakaway. Controversially,

41:18

when did this start? When did they start

41:21

in forming this? Well, Dan,

41:23

I've got to tell you, I remember being a child in

41:26

the UK. I mean, you know, not that long ago, but back

41:28

in the late eighties and people were talking about a super

41:30

league, a European super League. I mean there was even talked

41:32

about it in nineteen sixty four in

41:34

some of the newspapers in England. So this has

41:37

been rumbling for decades. But really

41:39

we don't know the full disclosure

41:43

of how this all took place

41:45

because it happened so quickly. It was announced

41:47

on Sunday night, out of the blue,

41:50

very late English time, about

41:52

eleven pm in England. It shocked everybody

41:55

how quickly it's come out, so this has obviously

41:57

been in the works for quite some time.

42:00

How is this prevented?

42:03

How do they combat this? Well?

42:06

At the moment, the backlash. If anyone listening

42:08

and watching this has been on Twitter

42:10

recently, I'm sure they've seen it. James Corden even

42:12

talked about it last night on his Late Late show. The

42:14

backlash is overwhelming. It's

42:16

the biggest story I've ever worked on in nearly

42:19

twenty years of being in this industry. It's the biggest

42:21

backlash I've ever seen. So how

42:23

does it get combated? Well, rumors

42:25

today that Chelsea and Manchester

42:27

City are wobbling. Some of the top football

42:29

journalists in the UK are saying those two clubs

42:32

did not realize the backlash would be so big.

42:34

They're wobbling. So one or two of the clubs

42:36

pulls out, it will probably crumble.

42:39

Money obviously is a huge thing. JP

42:42

Morgan. Are they okay with his bad

42:44

pr If they stay on board,

42:46

that's good for the Super League. If they decide,

42:48

actually don't really want our name associated

42:51

with something which is getting so much criticism,

42:53

that's a problem. And then you've got the fans and

42:55

down the fans I've heard fans over the last

42:57

twenty four hours on shows likes

43:00

but in England saying I've been in Manchester

43:02

United, support him for forty years, here's my season

43:04

ticket. I'm done with my club and I'm not talking

43:07

one fan, I'm talking fountains. And only

43:09

this morning the grandson of Bill

43:11

Shankly, the great Liverpool manager, the

43:13

man that really is in every single

43:15

sinew of that club. The grandson of Bill Shankly

43:18

has told Liverpool Football Club removed

43:21

the statue of my grandfather from outside anfield.

43:23

So this ground swell, plus the players

43:25

have come out and say they don't want it, a lot of them have, and

43:28

managers like Guardiola. It's

43:30

a huge pushback. So I suppose

43:33

somebody has to crum but at some point

43:35

under this pressure or with Stanley,

43:38

and it's up to these big clubs whether or not that these

43:40

owners really want to go forward with

43:42

it. I was also wondering about the role that

43:44

the American owners are going to play in this, because

43:46

they don't live there and you

43:49

know you're going to have man

43:51

United Liverpool and the impact

43:54

that they could have removed from

43:56

this. The role that loyalty

43:58

is going to play in all of this is why the

44:02

culture is very, very different. Dan, You and I've

44:04

talked about this many times when we've talked about relegation

44:07

and the difference between America and the UK, and I think

44:09

that's something that really has to be understood about English

44:11

football. We're talking about institutions like United,

44:14

like Liverpool, John Henry, the Glazer family,

44:16

San Cronkier Arsenal. These clubs

44:18

were established over one hundred and twenty years

44:20

ago and by local people for

44:22

local towns and for cities, to keep

44:24

the community close and to do great things

44:27

like we've seen throughout the pandemic in the

44:29

community. And I think over

44:31

in this country here in the United States, there

44:34

perhaps quite isn't that link

44:36

between huge clubs and their

44:38

local communities. They haven't been around as

44:40

long. They weren't created by

44:42

local men, working classmen,

44:46

for working class fans. So the loyalty

44:48

that seeps through English football is

44:51

incomparable really to anything over here.

44:53

So when you look at it from the owners point of view,

44:55

from the American owners point of view, I can

44:58

see that it's difficult understand.

45:00

They don't understand why anybody would

45:02

have a relegation, Why would anybody threaten

45:05

a club's future. But that's all

45:07

part of what makes English football so beautiful

45:10

because it's competitive, it's

45:12

sporting merits, it's how

45:14

good are you on the day and how

45:16

good can you be? Can you really put off

45:18

this amazing result against a huge team and

45:20

we see all the time and that's what makes the Premier

45:23

League in my view of many others, the

45:25

greatest league in the world in

45:27

any sports. So I think loyalty,

45:29

they may be coming up against

45:31

a bit of a surprise with this backlash, because

45:34

the loyalty is

45:36

a huge part of this game. And I

45:38

think also we have to look at ourselves as well

45:40

down because fifteen years ago these

45:43

clubs were owned by fans and

45:45

by local businessmen, or they sold out.

45:48

They did sell out to American

45:50

owners, to Russian owners like Romano

45:52

Bramovitch Chelsea and now ten

45:54

fifteen years old, we're seeing that maybe that was the

45:56

reason why these business owners wanted to

45:58

buy these clubs and maybe turned them into these European

46:01

superpowers. So you know, a lot of things

46:03

have gone wrong over the years and a lot of people are

46:05

now looking at themselves. So I think loyalty

46:08

and football people laugh there isn't

46:10

always a lot of it, But my goodness, between fan and

46:12

club, Dan, it's tribal

46:14

and it's a religion. I

46:16

haven't heard you this passionate about

46:19

I know you love your sport, but you're

46:21

worried about your sport. I'm

46:24

concerned. I'm concerned very

46:26

much. So. I feel

46:28

that the pyramid of English football in the UK again

46:31

something that I wouldn't expect anyone

46:33

in the States to understand. But it's not just the Premier

46:35

League, Dan, I think I've told you this before. There

46:37

are four or five there are five divisions

46:40

underneath that, and they're all professional

46:42

and these are professional players. Now, the money

46:44

from the Premier League trickles Dan to all

46:46

of these clubs that make up the local towns

46:49

and villages in the UK. And the worried Dan

46:51

is this that if there's six teams

46:53

from the Premier League go into the European Super League

46:55

and become so rich, the dream is

46:57

over in the Premier League because the Premier League

47:00

it's totally non competitive,

47:02

because these six will have so much

47:04

money that nobody could ever compete. And

47:07

then they'll have fourteen clubs

47:09

in the Premier League trying to get into a Champions

47:11

League which won't have any champions in it, which

47:13

means you can finish eighth in the Premier League and get into

47:15

the Champions League because these other six don't

47:17

want any part of the Champions League, and all of

47:20

a sudden the Premier League becomes non competitive. The

47:22

broadcast rights would be nowhere

47:24

near the value they are now, and the money

47:26

and the dream doesn't trickle down to all

47:28

these clubs below, which is a very essence

47:30

of English football. So my concern

47:33

is that hasn't been fought through and

47:35

we are yet, of course, to see the full plan

47:37

because we still haven't seen exactly

47:40

what these owners want. Let's get the full

47:42

plan and carry on this conversation. But it's

47:44

a passionate time. We do need to be call

47:47

heads and carn heads. There are rumors

47:49

today that it might crumble, so let's

47:51

see where it goes. But yeah, I am concerned

47:53

for the future of my sport for sure. How

47:55

can I help? You need

47:57

to spread the word down. I need to come on here every single

48:00

every day, every

48:03

day, Dan Patrick. You're five

48:06

minutes or five seconds of soccer or what every day

48:09

we need? And I know I've got

48:12

people watching today to agree with me. We need

48:14

more conversations with Dan Patrick.

48:16

Now, you know, I've been watching some documentaries.

48:18

I watched the one on Leads. I watched Sunderland

48:21

Till I Die. Right, just letting

48:23

you know I support the cause and I

48:25

like the relegated you

48:27

know, programs, the teams. It

48:30

is my question to you, Dan, I know it would work

48:32

over in the US relegation because you're far too

48:34

down the line. Certainly in the NFL

48:37

there's no real league underneath it. But the

48:39

relegation promotion, I mean that

48:42

does it not? It adds so much, doesn't

48:44

it. You can understand, yes, well,

48:46

you could do this in college football. Let's say you

48:48

took the top twenty programs

48:51

and then you could get you know, two drop

48:53

each year and then two college football

48:55

programs go up. Then that would resonate

48:58

with people and they'd be like, whoa, oh

49:00

wait a minute, that's costly. And

49:02

that's what it is. It's devastating

49:04

when you drive financially when you are

49:07

relegated. Devastating, of

49:09

course it is. It's people are laid off. It's

49:11

terrible. And that's and this is what makes

49:13

the drama of football so

49:16

engaging and addictive.

49:19

And of course in the States things are different

49:21

and it's done in a different way, and I wouldn't expect them

49:23

to just bring in relegation, but my goodness, it would make it

49:25

better. But in

49:27

Europe. Over in Europe, it's something that

49:29

can't change. It's been there for hundreds of years,

49:32

and I think what people are scared

49:34

of is that what makes the game so

49:37

beautiful looks like

49:39

at the moment is going to be removed.

49:41

And it does really help

49:43

your team. Crystal Palace, they still aren't any

49:45

good. So none

49:48

of this, none of this happen helps you, right,

49:51

you never know. I mean if the top six finish

49:53

in the top six places and Crystal Palace were

49:56

to finish seventh, I mean, basically we're champions.

49:58

So I think, oh,

50:03

it's great to talk to you. Keep your head up.

50:05

Got a lot of time, you know for cooler

50:07

heads, smarter people to uh. I know,

50:10

you follow the money and unfortunately when you

50:12

follow the money, it's going to lead

50:14

to this, but hopefully it

50:16

doesn't. Thanks for joining us as always,

50:21

of course. Okay, yes, Todd, make sure

50:23

you book Rebecca for tomorrow. Confirmed?

50:25

All right, thank you, Thanks Rebecca Low. There's

50:27

a Premier League match later on

50:29

Today it is Chelsea versus Brighton

50:32

and the Super League team would be

50:34

a twenty team league made up of

50:36

fifteen permanent members. The remaining

50:39

five compromise from teams

50:41

that qualify throughout domestic European

50:44

League competition. Yes, Polly, you've been up

50:46

Brighton, England. Yes, I have. Really,

50:48

it's that's like a coastal town, right, Yes it is. I took

50:51

the train out of London and we went

50:53

to Brighton and I wanted to go

50:55

play pinball because Pete

50:57

Townsend and the Who's sang about pinball

51:00

wizard and sure plays a mean pinball.

51:02

I didn't find a pinball machine in Brighton, but yeah,

51:05

it's on the coast. It was beautiful, very

51:07

very very cold, the water

51:10

breezy and Brighton. Yes he somebody

51:13

just had a funny tweet about you know how, sort

51:15

of like in sports we always look back at different

51:17

eras and players and where they great and where they are

51:19

not great. It said, I just realized, in

51:21

fifty years, kids are gonna say Ronaldo and MESSI

51:23

played against Farmers and didn't do it in the Super League,

51:27

Like yeah they're era, yeah, but who were they playing? Against

51:29

Yeah, they weren't. They didn't

51:31

do it in Super League. They did it against you know, all those other

51:34

teams. We'll take a break back after this from The Dan

51:36

Patrick Show.