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Play the Day, stat of the Day, all of

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that forthcoming. Tim Tebow. His

1:38

success at the University of Florida was probably

1:41

a blessing and a curse for the former

1:43

Heisman Trophy winner because it

1:45

did provide him with multiple opportunities,

1:48

multiple opportunities to try to blake quarterback

1:50

in the NFL, and

1:53

then he switched to play baseball, and that

1:55

was a cash grab for the Mets they were using

1:57

Tebow. Tebow didn't

1:59

mind having the opportunity to maybe show

2:01

that he could play baseball. And

2:04

now here he is back with the NFL. He's

2:06

expected to sign a one year deal with the Jags

2:08

to play tight end. Problem is he's

2:10

thirty three and he hasn't played

2:13

tight end before. Other than that, productive

2:17

players like Logan Thomas

2:19

he was a quarterback Virginia Tech.

2:21

He's now a good tight end, a jack of all

2:23

trades. Taysom Hill, quarterback at BYU

2:26

jack of all trades. Tebow

2:28

hasn't played football since the twenty

2:30

fifteen preseason. Presumably

2:33

they are younger players with more

2:36

speed who actually played tight

2:38

end. But you have to think that the Jags

2:40

head coach Urban Meyer is bringing

2:43

in Tim Tebow for his leadership,

2:46

not necessarily for his skill. And maybe he's

2:48

bringing him in as a favor, and

2:50

that's understandable. It's a ninety

2:52

man roster. That doesn't

2:55

mean that he makes the team. I think

2:57

it might be. I'll do you a favor,

2:59

Come on, end. These guys are neighbors

3:02

in Jacksonville. They live a couple of houses

3:04

from each other. Now, that doesn't

3:06

mean urban Meyer wants to bank

3:08

on Tim Tebow being his starting tight end.

3:11

I think we've made that big leap from

3:13

Oh, they're they're gonna sign Tebow.

3:16

Okay, let me wait and see if

3:18

he makes the roster here, this is a

3:20

ninety man roster. When they get

3:22

it down to fifty three, is Tim

3:25

Tebow still there? And he

3:27

might be fourth or fifth on the depth chart.

3:30

I don't know if he can block an edge rusher.

3:32

I don't know if he can get off a block and get down

3:34

field. I don't know, what he capable

3:37

of running. I don't know his hands, I don't know if

3:39

he can catch. But

3:42

I'm curious how it started tebow

3:45

call. Did he just go, Hey,

3:48

I'm gonna go get some sugar from

3:50

a coach. I'm gonna go knock on his door.

3:53

Hey, coach, can I borrow some

3:55

sugar and play tight end for you? What

3:59

some sugar in tight end for you?

4:02

Serviceable tight end? Uh?

4:05

Yeah, sure, come on in. I

4:07

mean the Jags have five tight ends

4:09

on their roster right now. You

4:11

might go, who are those tight

4:14

ends? Yeah, you're right. They don't

4:16

have a big name, but you

4:18

know James O'Shaughnessy. You

4:21

have Chris man Hurts,

4:23

Luke Farrell. Did you say Chris

4:25

Man Hurts. You made that up? No, you made

4:28

that up. Chris Man hurt Man

4:31

Hurts, Ben Ellefson

4:34

and Tyler Davis. Man

4:36

Hurts was signed in free agency.

4:39

He has twelve catches in seventy career

4:41

games. O'Shaughnessy has eighty

4:43

eight catches in six seasons with Kansas

4:46

City in Jacksonville. Ellefson

4:48

has one career catch. Davis

4:51

played in eight games last season after Jags

4:53

selected him in the sixth round. Farrell

4:56

is the team's fifth round pick this

4:59

year. I believe he's out of Ohio stake.

5:04

Somebody's losing a job in this group here.

5:06

I don't know how many tight ends you normally keep,

5:08

but they do have a roster

5:10

there. Meyer and Tebow did something

5:13

special at Florida, and maybe they can recapture

5:15

some of that Tebow magic. Tebow

5:18

time, a surprise second football

5:20

life for Tim. Yes, todd Man,

5:23

it's gonna hurt if Tebow takes his spot. I don't

5:25

know how you can possibly look yourself in the mirror after that. And

5:27

here's the wind up and the pitch. Thank

5:29

you, Todd. Yeah,

5:32

I'm not up in arms about

5:34

it. There are a lot of players, former players, who were

5:36

saying, why is he getting a chance here? I

5:40

mean, what is the down sign? Here?

5:43

Can you play? I don't think urban Meyer

5:45

is going to keep him on the fifty three man roster if

5:48

he can't play. But

5:50

urban Meyer does that total autonomy there,

5:52

and maybe this is one of those Hey,

5:54

you didn't make the team, do you want to stay on

5:57

my coaching staff? That's the feeling

5:59

I got is and this is why I

6:01

thought Alex Smith was going to go

6:03

to Jacksonville and maybe back up Trevor

6:06

Lawrence just to give him some guidance. He

6:08

has a relationship with Urban Meyer from their days

6:10

when they played at Utah. He quarterbacked

6:13

at Utah and he just said he didn't want to play

6:15

anymore. But maybe Tim Tebow

6:17

goes in and then he stays on the staff as an

6:19

assistant coach. And I don't think anybody

6:21

would have a problem with that. But

6:24

this has got the NFL up in arms.

6:27

How dare Tim Tebow takeaway a roster

6:29

spot. I don't know if he's going to

6:32

the ninety man, that's different than

6:34

the fifty three. Now, if he makes the fifty

6:36

three, then we could have a discussion

6:38

there. Yeah, Paully, I just checked the Jacksonville

6:41

jaguarshop dot com and no Tebo

6:43

Jersey all. Yet you need Trevor Lawrence.

6:45

I got eight different options for you, Travis

6:47

etn Yeah, heau's those nothing

6:50

for Tebows big with yes,

6:52

I was like, the NBA will keep an old player

6:54

on the rock like Udannis Haslam is actually

6:56

still on the heat roster. He doesn't play,

6:59

but they Joan Howard did this forever earlier.

7:01

But the NFL feels like, you can't really do that, just

7:04

keep a player coach. But but they didn't take nine

7:06

years off. Tim hasn't played football

7:08

in nine years, right, But hassm doesn't

7:10

even get in the games. He's just a coach that happened

7:12

to stick on the roster. Yeah, that's really what Tebow

7:14

would be if he happens to make the team, right

7:17

or would he play well, he's still

7:19

taking a roster spot. That

7:22

that's what has a lot of

7:24

the former players upset. It

7:27

feels like, how dare him take a roster

7:29

spot here? Now you can say, did he take

7:31

a roster spot in the Mets farm

7:33

system? I guess he did, But I blame

7:36

that on the Mets. I mean, if the Mets

7:38

didn't sign Tim Tebow, I don't think

7:40

anybody else was going to That

7:42

was, hey, we're gonna use you, Tim, you can

7:45

use us and maybe you

7:47

get a chance to play in the major leagues. It

7:49

didn't work out. Now he's trying to play tight end

7:51

at age thirty three, which is what

7:54

a lot of us suggested to Tim,

7:56

me included years ago. Did

7:58

you ever as soon as you would bring that up,

8:00

he'd shut it down. Why

8:03

don't you try tighten ump. I want to play quarterback,

8:06

and I understand that

8:08

a lot of this is the ego. I won the

8:11

Heisman Trophy as a quarterback.

8:13

I won a playoff game in Denver.

8:17

I'm a quarterback, and then

8:19

you realize you're not. I

8:21

mean, if Taysom Hill said I'm only a quarterback,

8:24

he might not be in the league. Antoine

8:28

Randall l if he said,

8:30

hey, I want to play quarterback, he wouldn't

8:32

have had that career. But

8:34

he did. He had a great career. Eric

8:38

Crouch famously didn't want to

8:40

be a kick returner or a wide receiver

8:42

with the Rams. He wanted to be a quarterback.

8:46

He didn't get that opportunity.

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it fascinating how many lives Tebow has? He's

9:14

managed every couple of years to pop up have

9:16

some relevancy. You know, he's a Met for a couple

9:18

of years. Then you know college game day,

9:20

good really good media gig and then one

9:22

last call at age thirty three to play for the Jaguars

9:25

with this young hot quarterback fascinating.

9:27

I just want to wait until they get

9:29

to camp. Let's see what happens.

9:32

Let's see if he can play the position. I

9:34

don't think urban Meyer is going to

9:36

keep him on the roster to do him a favor

9:39

because Urban ultimately has

9:42

to win. Who gives us the

9:44

best chance of winning. Now, you might say

9:46

they don't have a formidable lineup of tight

9:48

ends there, and they don't. But if

9:51

Tim Tebow gets a chance, maybe that's all

9:53

he's asking, like one last chance.

9:55

Let's see. Okay, it didn't work out, and

9:57

it didn't work out with my former coach. Now

10:00

I know I can put all of this to rest

10:02

because there's no more baseball, there'd

10:04

be no more football, and that he could be

10:06

an analyst if he wanted to with

10:09

the mother Ship, or he could

10:11

be an assistant coach there. But also

10:13

understand this is a business, like

10:15

the NFL is a reality show. It

10:18

truly is the ultimate reality show. If

10:20

you can somehow cash in

10:23

on Tim Tebow. Would Shod

10:25

Khan and the Jags be opposed to

10:27

that? The answers

10:29

No, you call hard

10:32

knocks right away, and you say, hey, come

10:34

on down, come on.

10:36

We got Trevor Lawrence, Urban Meyer

10:38

and Tim Tebow make

10:41

hard knocks all about Tim Tebow. And

10:44

you have that dramatic voice, the former

10:46

Heisman Trophy winner just can't

10:49

seem to hang on. Then

10:51

they drops the ball they had the music

10:54

you build. Urban

10:56

shakes his head. Trevor

10:59

Lawrence throw it to Tim Tebow.

11:01

Oh be so exciting.

11:05

Let me see if he makes the fifty three man roster.

11:09

Who wants to bet on Tim Tebow

11:11

making the fifty three man roster

11:14

here? Not the practice squad. No, he

11:16

is opening day

11:18

roster, suited up, suited up,

11:20

ready to go. Coach, Put me in, coach, I'm

11:22

ready to play. Who wants

11:25

a piece of that? Tim

11:27

Tebow is on the

11:30

field in a uniform Week

11:33

one crickets

11:40

rackets, Paulie,

11:43

how many tight ends can you have on a roster? It's a rule

11:45

against it. No, I don't think I think you can

11:47

have you know ten if you want

11:50

McLevin. When the teams normally

11:52

carry three two three, Yeah,

11:54

I'm not sure, but I don't know if they're carry

11:56

enough for him. I go thumbs down. Okay, I don't

11:58

think they can keep five or six. Do you want to do that as

12:01

a pole? By the way, does he make the team? Okay?

12:04

What do you think? Pol Do most NFL

12:06

teams keep two or three active quarterbacks

12:08

these days? Is it generally two active?

12:10

Usual? Two? And then you have an inactive practice

12:13

squadish? Yeah, that's like you know, the Packers are bringing

12:15

in quarterbacks like Chad Kelly and

12:19

they but they have to do that because Jordan

12:21

Love was inactive. He wasn't

12:23

even dressed to play in games last

12:25

year. They have to have a backup quarterback. They

12:28

may have to have a starting quarterback here, but

12:30

they were expected when Adam Schefter

12:32

joined us, he said they're going to be bringing in

12:34

quarterbacks. That wasn't news.

12:37

What happened yesterday that the Packers

12:39

announced they're bringing in some candidates

12:41

here. Yeah, mclub. So if you're Tebow

12:43

and if you do have a three quarters, you're in the tight y room.

12:45

Do you sneak down the hallway to just sit

12:47

in on some quarterback meetings. Do you think he would

12:49

try that? Not

12:51

unless he's invited. That's

12:54

a room by way. Gardner Minshew I think is still

12:56

there. It feels like Gardner Minshew

12:59

can end up in Greenback for some reason like

13:01

that would be that would be a quality

13:03

backup quarterback. I

13:05

don't know if Jacksonville, you

13:07

know, would trade him, but it feels

13:10

like if if you're Green Bay, my

13:12

my first round pick is not ready, and

13:15

could I get somebody who would be ready? Because this

13:17

is a team that is, you know, obviously

13:19

a super Bowl caliber team. And

13:23

if you don't have Aaron Rodgers, then

13:26

who can you have in there as a backup quarterback?

13:28

Yeah? Mclub. Did we just link the Tebow story

13:30

to Aaron Rodgers somehow? If

13:32

I can get a link, if

13:35

I can link it to Lebron James and

13:38

then the Cowboys, I got a home run here. Somehow work

13:40

his ankle into this, and yes, his ankle,

13:42

and then you have Dak Prescott who had the ankle's

13:45

surgery. Lebron

13:47

is he a Cowboys fan? Yeah?

13:50

Yeah, there we go. We got it all here. Yeah.

13:52

I did see a story that the Jags and

13:54

the Cowboys are the two front runners

13:57

for hard knocks. This is from like

13:59

a month ago on NFL dot Com

14:01

that, I mean, the Cowboys always sell at hard

14:03

knocks. But what don't you want to see the Jags? Now?

14:07

Well? What am I going to see

14:09

with the Cowboys in training camp?

14:11

Now? You might see Michael Parsons, who's a big

14:14

personality, their first round draft pick. Uh,

14:17

you know, the return of Dak Prescott from

14:19

you know, ankle surgery. Uh,

14:22

what else? I mean, Jerry's always going to

14:24

be front and center. I would think urban Meyer's

14:27

first year. Now, if I'm urban Meyer, I don't want

14:29

the cameras there my first year, Like

14:31

I want to ease into this. I

14:33

don't want any more distractions than I'm gonna

14:35

already have signed him Tebow. Yeah,

14:38

exactly, I did that just as

14:40

of faith, just as a favor. Yes,

14:42

there's a note in here. They don't have to be on hard knocks.

14:44

You know, there's rules because a first year coach, but they want

14:47

to be shot con has requested the league

14:50

that hey what so maybe maybe

14:52

they want this circus. Well,

14:55

this is um this

14:57

is the first start here. This

14:59

is certain the entree into hard knocks, where

15:01

you go, Okay, got Urban You got Trevor

15:04

Lawrence. Wait you you just signed

15:06

him to Yes, we'll have you on. That

15:08

wouldn't be enough to have Urban Meyer and Trevor

15:11

Lawrence. You got Tim Tebow. We

15:13

can we can work with that. By

15:16

the way, the most receptions by tight ends

15:18

in twenty twenty, just to give you an idea of where

15:21

the Jags are on that list. Darren

15:24

Waller, who was originally a wide receiver,

15:26

one hundred and seven catches. Travis

15:28

Kelsey was a quarterback in high school.

15:31

He had one hundred and five catches. Logan

15:33

Thomas, originally a quarterback, seventy

15:36

two catches. There. All right,

15:38

it's not out of the realm of possibilities

15:40

here, but I will say those three players

15:43

that I just mentioned are incredible

15:45

athletes. Tim

15:47

was just a big guy on a great team

15:49

and did wonderful things, you

15:52

know, but then all of a sudden he got to the pros,

15:55

had a long delivery. He wasn't

15:57

his fast or quick, you

15:59

know. He they were a mismatch

16:01

with just about every team they played against. And

16:04

he could run and he could

16:07

throw well enough, and

16:09

that's all you needed. At Florida,

16:11

there was I mean, that's one of the more talented

16:14

teams we've had in college football in a long

16:16

long time. Tim got

16:18

to the NFL and he just couldn't play.

16:20

You know, the release isn't quick. He's

16:22

not quick. He's still a big, powerful

16:25

guy. But I um,

16:28

I don't know. Well, we'll get

16:30

this, you know, see what urban

16:32

Meyer needs to see from Tim Tebow?

16:34

Yeah, Poling, we have a snarky tweak to the Tim

16:36

Tebow bats. Instead of will you make the rosters

16:39

career receptions for Tim Tebow a

16:41

half is the over? Under a

16:43

half a reception for his career? Where

16:46

would you go? Ah,

16:49

half of a catch? I'm gonna go under. I'm

16:51

gonna do the under. I didn't do the

16:54

under the Jags.

16:56

This is on NFL dot Com. The Jags

16:58

will get the NOD in twenty twenty one.

17:01

For Hard Knocks, we'll

17:03

start with the background. The only team that's

17:05

publicly stated a desire to

17:07

be the focus of Hard Knocks. There's

17:10

never been enough buzz around the team de merit

17:12

serious consideration. That's

17:14

no longer the case, urban Meyer,

17:17

Trevor Lawrence. So

17:21

looks like the Jags will be a hard knocks

17:23

And then you throw in Tim Tebow. Sure, I

17:26

think we got ourselves a TV show. All

17:29

right, we'll come up with a poll question or did you settle

17:31

on one you wanted. Yeah, we're gonna put up will Tim

17:33

Tebow make the Jags as a starter. Then we have some other

17:35

options about we have a Russell Westbrook pole.

17:37

Oh okay, yeah, all right.

17:39

And also I want to bring back some of the comments

17:42

Bob Baffort made yesterday

17:44

on the show, because once he was done with

17:46

the interview, I had Reggie Miller waiting in the

17:48

on deck circle. We didn't get a chance to chop up

17:50

some of the things he said in the last hour of the show.

17:53

He of course is the Kentucky Derby

17:55

winning trainer, and he's

17:57

not going to the Preakness, but medina

18:00

a Spirit is going. We'll

18:02

talk about some of the things that he had to say. We'll

18:04

talk about Russell Westbrook passing

18:07

Oscar Robertson for the

18:09

all time career triple doubles.

18:13

So the Big Oh said

18:15

he was rooting for us to break his record.

18:18

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19:57

the roster. Former players upset,

20:00

respect the game. Okay,

20:02

it's a ninety man roster. Now

20:05

I can like it and say that, No,

20:07

he doesn't deserve a roster spot. I

20:09

mean, if you want to

20:11

put him, and I'm not the head coach,

20:14

I'm not a rookie coach trying to win with

20:17

urban Meyer. But urban Meyer doing him a favor.

20:19

I wouldn't be surprised if Tim closes

20:22

up shop and ends up being on

20:24

the staff with urban Meyer. That would be

20:26

my thought, and maybe that he

20:28

could be beneficial with that team.

20:31

By the way, we talk about, oh, he didn't deserve

20:34

this, didn't earn this. DK Metcalf

20:36

didn't earn a spot at the

20:38

Olympic trials or to qualify for the

20:40

Olympics. They gave him an exception. They created

20:42

another spot just so

20:44

he could run. Dk

20:47

Metcalf hasn't run tracks since high school.

20:51

Nobody had a problem with this, did they.

20:54

PJ Tour has exemptions. There's

20:58

guy's in the Masters. They

21:00

don't you know, they won the Masters, but

21:02

that doesn't mean they should be playing in the Masters at

21:05

the age of seventy. But

21:07

you get a lifetime invite, so

21:09

this does happen. It's not just Tim Tebow.

21:12

Nobody had a problem with dk Metcalf running

21:14

in that race, and I didn't either. You

21:17

know, it shined the light on some

21:19

of those sprinters who wouldn't

21:21

have gotten any publicity whatsoever. And

21:23

look, he ran a decent time, So

21:27

all right, it's fine. Are

21:29

there gimmicks? Yes, yes,

21:32

pulling. This is a long long time ago. We

21:34

were on the air in two thousand and nine, and remember

21:36

Tim Tebow came back for his senior year at Florida,

21:38

and it was this. It was at the end of a senior year

21:41

in Florida, and I suggested that Tim Tebow be allowed

21:43

to stay in college perpetually forever.

21:45

He should have stayed at Florida and just kept playing

21:48

quarterback there for the next ten years. I know, you

21:50

can't do though you can't. They should have made an exemption.

21:52

He could have just been the Florida quarterback forever. It's

21:54

been perfect for everybody. Maybe the

21:57

NFL Gibbs Jacksonville a fifty fourth

21:59

ross your spot, it's the Tebow spot.

22:01

This team feels like an sect. There two

22:04

more signings from an SEC team. Yeah,

22:06

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22:08

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22:38

mclovin, we have our poll question correct. Yeah,

22:40

will Tebow make the Jags side

22:43

question? Is it smart for the Jags to bring him

22:45

in? If this is about money, then

22:48

maybe it kind of makes sense. Maybe it's a smart move

22:50

just to get some buzz because there hasn't always

22:52

been buzz down there. Well,

22:55

I think you've got enough buzz with Urban Meyer

22:57

Trevor Lawrence. Now if you don't,

22:59

then we have a problem. I

23:01

think if you win, that's your buzz.

23:04

If you're saying, hey, come on out and see

23:06

Tim Tebow warm up and catch

23:08

some passes or stand on the sidelines.

23:12

Okay, does it help in

23:14

marketing, I guess. But

23:17

look, Jacksonville fans are waiting for a

23:19

winner. You hope that you have the

23:21

building blocks of a winner. You want a young

23:23

team. You got a rookie

23:26

coach, got a rookie quarterback, and

23:28

you hope that you're growing. You know,

23:30

do I want maybe? You know, Tebow

23:33

helps take away a little of the

23:35

headline or spotlight from Trevor Lawrence,

23:37

which could be a good thing. I just will

23:39

be surprised if Tim makes the fifty three man

23:41

roster. It's all, you know, good for

23:43

him. He wants to try. It's like with the Mets. I said,

23:45

good for him, you want to try, and go ahead, Michael

23:48

Jordan wants to play baseball? Go ahead?

23:51

Yeah. Yeah. This might be the stupidest

23:53

reason ever, but they could probably sell Tim Tebow

23:56

in London you know, and Shot Khan has that

23:58

international desire. Yeah,

24:01

but what are you seeing when you go see

24:03

the Jags? Like

24:05

Tim London don't know they die. I recognize

24:07

that guy, Okay,

24:11

I mean they Yeah, those are soccer fans. Like just

24:13

a recognizable face to market might

24:16

be something. No. I think fans

24:18

show up. They show

24:20

up no matter what, like they

24:23

love their football. So I

24:25

don't think signing Tim Tebow is gonna,

24:27

you know, all of a sudden generate larger audiences

24:31

here. Yes, boy. Albert

24:33

Brier Sports illustrated a story about just about

24:35

a month or so ago with an NFL executive

24:37

who said they're leaning away towards from

24:39

a team in London, and they're more into

24:41

the couple games here, a couple of games

24:44

there, stay with the game schedule, not

24:46

really relocating a team. Tom Silverstein

24:49

covers the Packers, and he's been a busy

24:51

man here, but he's taking time out for

24:53

us. He covers the Packers for the Milwaukee

24:56

Journal Sentinel. Let me start with

24:58

the Tebows story. Let me give you something different

25:00

here, Tom, what do you think about Tim Tebow's

25:02

chances of making the Jags? Uh,

25:06

let's see, I would say

25:08

they're probably akin

25:11

to Rogers

25:13

playing for the Bears. Maybe. Oh,

25:16

okay, that that would

25:18

probably be my equation there, right,

25:21

quiet week after a wild week.

25:23

So where do you Is it a good thing?

25:25

If you're a Packers fan that it's been quiet,

25:29

it's probably a good thing. Yes,

25:33

you know, so many things were fired

25:35

right on draft Day, and

25:38

then of course you had all the reverberations

25:41

after that and little

25:44

nuggets coming out, and now I

25:46

think it's just down to time.

25:49

I think time is the one element

25:52

that could make

25:55

this thing go away. It's possible.

25:58

I still don't believe that

26:00

it's gonna end well. But you

26:03

know, with time, you start

26:06

to people start to think differently

26:08

and view things differently,

26:11

and suddenly you get closer

26:14

to actual

26:16

season starting and training camp

26:18

and then maybe things flip

26:20

a little bit. So that's really

26:22

what it's going to come down to in my opinion.

26:24

Okay, why don't you think it'll work

26:27

out for Rogers and the

26:29

Packers. Well, one,

26:32

I just think that with Aaron Rodgers,

26:34

when there's an issue and

26:37

he holds a grudge, it's it's a

26:39

grudge forever. It's not

26:42

something that he gets over very easily.

26:45

This could be a little bit different in

26:48

that maybe he just wanted to make his point

26:51

and that there's some things that they

26:53

could do. I'm starting to starting

26:55

to see signs

26:57

that maybe he does

27:00

want to come back. I mean, you're seeing his surrogates

27:03

start to say,

27:06

well, you know, it's not as bad as you think

27:08

it is. And you know, everything

27:11

you hear from either sources

27:14

or people who've played with him or

27:16

anything like that, it's, in

27:18

my opinion, it's coming from him.

27:21

So maybe there is a chance

27:23

for reconciliation. Yeah,

27:26

I'm just trying to sort through a fact

27:28

in fiction here, Tom, and I know that you have to

27:31

do this too, because there's so much that's

27:33

been reported. I don't like

27:36

nobody says yeah, that's absolutely true.

27:38

No, that's absolutely false, because Aaron

27:40

hasn't said anything, and it's

27:43

I mean, it's tough to navigate this, But

27:46

I'm curious of the national

27:48

view as opposed to the local view of this.

27:51

Are they different? Yeah,

27:55

I mean I think from a

27:58

local standpoint, if

28:00

we're talking about the view of what this whole

28:02

thing is about, yes,

28:05

I think it's different. If we're talking

28:07

about the viewpoint of how this

28:09

will end up, I'm not sure that

28:12

you know, the local people

28:15

here also feel like this

28:17

is not going to end well in that he's going to

28:19

probably wind up somewhere else. But

28:22

I mean from the standpoint of what this

28:24

is all about, you know, we deal

28:27

with Aaron on a regular

28:29

basis and know a lot about him, and also

28:31

know a lot about the Packers and Brian

28:33

Gutekunst and what

28:36

they've done to, you

28:38

know, build around Rogers, and

28:40

you know there's a sentiment all

28:43

through the national media that he's

28:45

not had anybody to play with through

28:47

his most of his career, and

28:50

of us locally know about

28:52

Greg Jennings and Jordy Nelson and Drew

28:55

Michael Finley and Randall Cobb and

28:57

DeVante Adams and forgetting

29:01

a bunch of people in a really good offensive

29:03

line. So I think there is

29:05

some difference. Yeah,

29:08

and then you start to look at possible

29:11

destinations here for Aaron Rodgers. Why

29:13

is Denver standing out over everybody else

29:15

at least that that feels like Denver

29:18

is the front runner if he doesn't stay in Green

29:20

Bay. Yeah, it does

29:22

to me too. I don't

29:25

know why. I guess maybe for

29:27

one, it's got to be in the AFC, you

29:29

know, just history tells

29:31

us it's got to be in the AFC. Ted Ted

29:34

Thompson Dealt Brett Fire to the

29:36

Jets, and Brian budecrinst is Ted

29:39

thompson disciple. He's not

29:41

going to trade him, you know, to anyone

29:44

in the NFC. I don't think that could beat

29:46

him, So that that's number

29:48

one. Then you look at

29:50

Denver. I just think

29:52

that, and I'm

29:55

speculating some here, but John Elway

29:57

has got to know what an MVP quarterback

30:00

and do for him. They did it with Peyton Manning

30:02

and I always won two Super Bowls

30:04

at the end of his career, and so why couldn't

30:07

Rogers win too for Denver. That's

30:10

kind of my vice sentiment or

30:12

my thought on why it would be Denver

30:14

Now it could be the Raiders. I

30:16

think that probably would

30:18

be very logical. I'm

30:21

not sure that Aaron Rodgers

30:25

would know what he's getting into if he goes

30:27

to play for John Gruden, but you

30:29

know, Denver, Denver just seems more logical

30:31

to me. If

30:34

you could get real answers,

30:36

honest answers from Rogers or somebody

30:38

within the Packers organization, who would you

30:40

want to talk to today? Rogers

30:43

okay, no question. I mean, let's

30:46

hear it, you know, right right

30:49

from him. I want to hear what

30:51

his gripes are, what is real

30:53

and what isn't real? And is

30:56

he really dug in?

30:59

I mean, that's that's the sense

31:01

I get that he is so dug in that he's never

31:03

going to play for the Packers again. But

31:06

then you always get the mixed messages from

31:08

his former teammates who are

31:10

now sort of moving

31:14

the dial a little bit towards

31:16

he'll come back. I know, you know, certain

31:19

things are changed.

31:22

I don't know if it's going to require Briden Grutkums

31:24

to take out a billboard and Green Bay

31:27

that he's sorry he drafted to

31:31

fly a lamp over

31:33

Lambeau. You know, I'm sorry, Aaron. I

31:35

don't know. I really don't know. Yeah,

31:39

you just trying to figure out

31:41

what the time frame is on all of this. And so

31:44

Jordan's Love is not going to be ready again this year?

31:46

Is that? Is that right? That's

31:49

my gut feeling. You know, when

31:52

it was kind of tough last

31:54

year because train camp was

31:57

shortened, we only got to see

32:00

in Love a little and

32:02

I'm by we, I mean the media,

32:04

and then during once practice starter for

32:06

the season, you almost never see him. You just

32:08

saw him throwing drills on

32:11

air, so you couldn't really tell

32:14

where he was at. The coaches give

32:16

you the usual that he's advancing,

32:18

but you know, Brian Riderkins

32:20

made it pretty clear when he drafted him that this

32:22

is a two or three year project. And

32:25

that's kind of where I don't understand from

32:27

Roger's standpoint, why

32:30

there's he feels threatened about it

32:32

because he should be

32:34

able to beat this guy out this

32:36

year and next year and maybe

32:38

even the year after that, and

32:41

I think he could fulfill his contract easily.

32:44

But you know, if

32:47

he plays like if he plays like he did

32:49

last year this year, how

32:51

do they come? I mean, how do you

32:53

cut a guy? What if he wins the Super Bowl? How

32:55

do you cut a Super Bowl quarterback

32:58

and move on to the next guy. I just

33:01

I don't that's

33:03

the part, the insecurity part that I don't understand.

33:06

Tom. Thank you for joining us. I know you've been

33:08

busy covering this. We appreciate your time anytime.

33:12

Dan. That's to Silverstein,

33:14

the Packers beat reporter Milwaukee Journal

33:16

Sentinel. Here's something for you. Packers

33:19

have drafted zero wide receivers

33:22

in the first round during Aaron Rodgers sixteen

33:24

seasons in Green Bay.

33:27

Patriots drafted zero wide

33:30

receivers in the first round.

33:32

During Tom Brady's first sixteen

33:35

seasons in New England. Tom

33:39

won five Super Bowls in those sixteen years.

33:41

Rogers has won one stat

33:44

of the day, stat of the day, that

33:46

past stat of the day, stat of

33:48

the day here comes

33:51

that what stat of the day?

33:55

Although the Packers have drafted

33:58

a quarterback in the first round und

34:00

whereas the Patriots did not. That's

34:04

why we're here because

34:06

if they didn't draft Jordan Love. And

34:08

I go back to what I said, I if Rogers

34:12

scores from eight yards out

34:15

and they beat the Buccaneers and go to the Super

34:17

Bowl, is he worried about Jordan Love?

34:20

Is he worried about what? Does

34:23

he have a problem with the GM. You

34:26

have a good team the Packers

34:29

in the last two years. That

34:31

that's what you want. And

34:34

they have surrounded Rogers with talent.

34:37

Now, could they have drafted a wide receiver, yes,

34:41

they could have, but they do have a

34:43

good offensive line, good running

34:45

back. They have found good receivers,

34:48

a good tight end. That's

34:51

that's what's that's what's different about this? Yes,

34:54

Paulie. Can you guess how many quarterbacks the Patriots

34:56

drafted while Tom Brady was on

34:58

the roster During tom Brady's I guess

35:01

two decades in New England? Guess how

35:03

many quarterbacks they used draft picks on seven?

35:07

Anyone else want to take a shot, I'd

35:09

say six? Ten. They

35:12

drafted ten quarterbacks after Tom Brady

35:14

joined Rohan Davy, Cliff Kingsbury, Mattcastle,

35:17

Kevin O'Connell, third round pick, Zach

35:19

Robinson, Ryan Mallett, third round pick, Jimmy

35:21

Garoppo's second round pick, Jacobe Procett,

35:23

third round pick, Danny Etling, and

35:25

Jared Stidham. Ian Rappaport

35:28

says the Packers made a quote significant

35:30

long term contract offered Aaron Rodgers.

35:33

The two sides, however, are quote not

35:35

in a good place. Rogers

35:39

has talked to several players about joining

35:41

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35:45

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great achievement. But is

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Russ a great player? We'll

37:45

talk about that a little bit more coming up at the top

37:47

of the hour. And the

37:49

triple double. A lot of times, you

37:52

know when you hear some of the older players, you

37:54

know, Willie May's, Mickey Mantle, they

37:57

probably would have said, Wow, if thirty

37:59

thirty was a big deal, I would have done it every year.

38:02

They weren't stat conscious

38:04

the way we are now. Everything

38:06

is about stats and

38:10

it's easy to consume because it's

38:12

perfect for social media. The triple

38:14

double, it wasn't called a triple double

38:16

one Oscar play. I think

38:19

it became a triple double maybe

38:21

with Magic, certainly with Jay Kidd,

38:24

but it wasn't a thing.

38:26

Oscar just averaged double

38:28

digits and points, rebounds and assists,

38:31

and growing up in Cincinnati where Oscars

38:34

started, we just thought Oscar's

38:36

just a great player. We didn't go, oh,

38:39

he's better than Jerry West because

38:41

he averages a triple double. If

38:43

Oscar averaged I don't

38:45

know thirty nine

38:47

and nine, same

38:49

player any different.

38:54

But we didn't have the term triple double back

38:56

then. It was just Oscar

38:59

was great,

39:02

right. I never gave

39:04

it pause where I went he's averaging double

39:06

digit rebounds. It's just you

39:08

watched Oscar play and you knew that he was

39:10

one of the great players in the game. Will

39:13

Chamberlain probably average

39:15

a triple double in points,

39:18

rebounds and blocks, will

39:23

once led the league and assists. I

39:26

mean, there's these statistical

39:28

anomalies, and we fall in love with that. Is

39:33

Russ a great player? Does

39:36

he help his team win? Would

39:38

you want him as your teammate? Those

39:41

are things that I think are fair

39:43

to the conversation. If you're going to say

39:46

he belongs in there's the second greatest

39:48

point guard of all time. Now,

39:52

statistically, if you want

39:54

to put him in there over John Stockton or Isaiah

39:56

Thomas or whoever it might be, do

40:00

you want to play with that player. James

40:03

Harden wanted out of Houston, Kevin

40:06

Durant wanted out of Oklahoma City. Russ

40:11

was with both of those guys. Russ

40:16

got traded for John wall when's

40:18

the last time you watch John walleny game?

40:23

I love watching Russell Westbrook play. The

40:28

fact that every every single not every

40:30

single game, every single possession, it

40:32

feels like it's the most important

40:35

thing in his life. But

40:40

is that a good thing? Ball

40:42

dominant, probably

40:45

more ball dominant than anybody in the history

40:47

of the game. Let

40:50

that sink in. He's

40:53

got the ball. Do we diminish

40:55

the triple double now because it's Russell

40:58

Westbrook? Whereas we celebrated the

41:00

reason why Oscar is a top ten player

41:04

is in part due to the triple

41:06

double, because we went,

41:08

oh my god, he average a triple double. He's got

41:10

to be one of the great players of all time an

41:13

Oscar is, But is he one of the top

41:15

ten players? Is

41:18

Russell Westbrook going to be one of the top

41:21

twenty five players of all time? And

41:24

he probably will be. I got a list

41:26

of players going at

41:28

top players according to ESPN dot com

41:30

coming into this season. You

41:35

know, I love a good list here. This

41:37

is coming into this season. Lebron

41:40

Is one, Anthony Davis two, Janis

41:43

three, Luca four, Kawhi,

41:46

Kevin Durant, Dame Lillard, Steph Curry,

41:48

James Harden, and the Joker. You

41:51

have to go all the way to

41:55

thirty six to find Russell

41:57

Westbrook. He's just

42:01

above Marcus Smart. I

42:05

don't think Russ made the All Star team this year.

42:08

It's a it's a it's

42:10

a great accomplishment. It truly is

42:13

to do this for your career. But

42:16

I don't know if he's one of the great

42:18

point guards of all time. Fascinating

42:22

yes, statistical anomaly, yes,

42:25

is he a great player? Do you

42:27

want him on your team? Games

42:30

on the line, big possession and

42:33

look, I don't put all the blame

42:35

on him what happened with Okase, but

42:37

it feels like Kevin Durant was like,

42:40

I'm not winning a title with this guy. Let

42:42

me go see if I can pick off one or two with

42:44

Golden State James Harden. He

42:47

wanted Russell Westbrook and then he

42:49

didn't. Now

42:51

he's in Washington. If

42:55

there's a basketball purgatory, it's

42:57

pretty close. Like you at least

42:59

passed through Washington with their basketball

43:02

team before you get to basketball purgatory.

43:05

Maybe Sacramento. Yes, I

43:09

think one of the criticism when he misses,

43:11

it's just so bad, you know, it's not like

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I hear this. Boy, if he could shoot, he'd be

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yeah, all right if he could, but he can't.

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