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preseason game a big one for guys battling

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for the backup quarterbacking positions.

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And you might not think it's a big deal, but think

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of how many teams had to go to their backup

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quarterbacks at some point.

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Chiefs had to turn to Chad Henny to hold

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off the Browns in last year's playoffs. Famously,

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Nick Foles came in for Carson Wentz,

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leading the Eagles to a Super Bowl. Interesting

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names vying for that number two spot. The

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Steelers will start former

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first round pick Dwayne Haskins tonight

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against the Panthers. Maybe he

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can rebuild his career behind Ben Roethlisberger.

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Falcons law us their backup AJ McCarron

1:01

for the season. They're giving Josh Rosen a look.

1:04

Cowboys still have a lot to figure

1:06

out with Garrett Gilbert and Cooper

1:09

Rush. And what about the news

1:11

there mclovin, I read that the news felt

1:14

a fourth string. I don't know if

1:16

that's accurate, but but Denucci,

1:18

I don't think it's playing very well. Yeah, Bill Neuch Carson

1:20

Wentz appears to be the starter for Week

1:23

one in Indie. The backups Jacob

1:25

Eeson, Sam Ellinger backup

1:27

quarterbacks normally not you know,

1:29

front and center coming into the season,

1:32

but teams know how important

1:34

that quarterback could be, and it might be for

1:36

one game, a half, a moment,

1:39

or maybe a super Bowl. Dak

1:42

Prescott, I guess, is ready to go, and

1:44

his offensive coordinator Kellen Moore

1:47

had this to say on any limitations

1:49

with Dak. Yeah, we're just playing

1:51

ball at this point, so we're

1:54

not looking at anything from a limitation standpoint. We're playing

1:56

football and we're getting ready

1:58

for obviously from his stamp, we're getting

2:00

ready for the regular season at Tampa Bay.

2:04

He's no longer on peace. Now,

2:06

we're just playing. We're just playing ball. Kellen

2:09

Moore a podium thumper. I

2:11

mean, Nick Saban, come

2:14

on, God, you're

2:17

gonna get that bang there. Uh,

2:19

let's see what else did I have Bill Belichick. Uh,

2:22

he's still not adhering

2:24

to any time frame for his starting

2:26

quarterback. At what point do

2:28

you have to sort of transition here from the

2:30

spirited quarterback competition to having

2:33

a starter, giving them the majority of the reps

2:35

and getting them prepared for Miami and to be

2:37

the starter throughout the rest of the year.

2:41

Yeah, I don't have a timetable on that, Chris,

2:43

So I can't. Can't tell you.

2:50

You have to ask the questions, but

2:53

you just know you're gonna

2:55

be left hanging. Play

2:57

it again, setan if you can. At

3:00

what point do you have to sort of transition

3:02

here from the spirited quarterback

3:04

competition to having a starter,

3:07

giving them the majority of the reps and getting them

3:09

prepared for Miami and to be the starter throughout

3:12

the rest of the year. Yeah,

3:14

I don't have a timetable on that, Chris So

3:17

I can't. I can't tell you. It

3:19

feels like the longer you go with the question,

3:22

the more likely he's going to leave you hanging. Bill,

3:25

When are your name and your starting quarterback? Yeah?

3:29

I yeah.

3:32

It seemed like the biggest danger of Belichick is

3:34

acting like you know anything about football when

3:36

you ask a question like, coach, what

3:38

do you think of your offensive line? Player is a little down

3:40

from last year because it seems like they're much improved.

3:43

Like if you give your opinion all, he'll light you up.

3:45

I was watching the other day and whenever anyone get

3:47

their opinion or interjected football

3:50

analysis, he just shut it down.

3:52

I faced that with Pat Riley in the NBA

3:54

Finals where he shut

3:56

me down where I was injecting

3:58

my opinion, which I shouldn't have. But

4:01

you know, you have this scrum of reporters

4:03

around and then talking HARDU

4:06

is going to ask the question and then Riley

4:09

shut me down. And I said

4:11

to doctor Jack Ramsey, who was the

4:13

analyst for a sports center, I said,

4:15

Jack, give me a question

4:17

for pat Riley for the next press conference

4:20

where he can't shut me down. He's

4:22

like Dan, and then you know Jack

4:25

giving me really detailed

4:27

stuff, and you

4:29

know, coach, he'll

4:31

know that you've done your homework. Dan. And

4:34

then I asked the question and he

4:37

shut me down again. It's

4:39

like I'm gonna stand out here.

4:41

They're gonna be and Dan

4:43

Patrick asked this question. It

4:46

was it

4:48

ended quickly and I went and

4:51

I so I walk over to doctor

4:53

Jack when the press conference is over and

4:56

he goes, how did it go? Dan? I go,

4:59

not good? Coach, not good? That's

5:01

too bad, Dan. Uh.

5:06

What a wonderful man, doctor Jack Ramsey

5:08

was that he had

5:11

so much respective around the league and with

5:13

players, with coaches, with everybody.

5:15

Nobody had a bad word to say about Jack Ramsey

5:18

just didn't. When you walked into the

5:20

building, they may not have cared about

5:22

you, but they cared about Jack Ramsey. So

5:25

by proxy, you know, I had

5:27

respect. Yeah, poll back in the day,

5:29

we would have him on the show and we would have to call him

5:31

and I would have just finished like a double cheeseburger

5:33

and I call him like, doctor Jack, how you

5:36

doing? Guess? Just slam just swam forty

5:38

laps, Paul, how about you? He's like seventy

5:40

six years old, scenes got bar stamps on his hands

5:42

and we're sitting there calling Jack Ramsey.

5:45

But he would he would swim in the ocean. Uh.

5:48

Famously during the NBA

5:50

Finals the Phoenix Suns and the Chicago Bulls.

5:53

I remember one morning I woke

5:56

up and I could hear this and

6:00

I thought it's a sprinkler, and I

6:02

look out my back window and

6:04

Jack Ramsey is there in

6:07

a speedo jump roping

6:09

at six thirty in the

6:12

morning and

6:15

he was just starting his workout. Yeah,

6:17

pulling. You know, it's another fascinating one. Back in the

6:19

day, early John Gruden, he was at

6:21

the Raiders or at the Tampa

6:24

Early he would be, you

6:26

know, in the office at four thirty am. And guys

6:28

like us at ESPN Raido knew we could call John Gruden.

6:31

He would pick up his office line and you'd call

6:33

him it. Yeah this coach. Well, no, he was with the Raiders.

6:35

Raiders, yes, Raiders, because four thirty

6:38

for him was seven thirty for us, Right, like

6:40

the guys on the Mike and Mike Show knew they could call

6:42

John Gruden at four fifteen in the morning and he'd pick

6:44

up. Yeah, he'd be right there at his desk.

6:47

And that's if you were getting coach Gruden, you were

6:49

getting him that early in the morning. CBS's

6:52

Pete Prisco covers the NFL. He

6:54

says players aren't responding to urban

6:56

Meyer's college tactics. He

6:59

says they haven't

7:01

gotten off to a good start. That's obvious.

7:04

Urban Meyer clearly does not like losing,

7:07

even if it's in the preseason. I

7:09

heard he had a rough go at it last

7:11

week just because he lost his first

7:13

preseason game. That's not an attitude

7:15

that you need to have in the NFL. So

7:17

he's got to change a few things. He

7:20

brought a lot of college like things

7:22

to the team that I don't think necessarily

7:25

agrees with. I've

7:28

heard that some of the players aren't thrilled with him either,

7:30

including having a microphone on the

7:32

field. One of his assistants on the

7:34

field during practice with a boom microphone

7:36

telling guys to hydrate, hustle,

7:39

and get to the next workout. Oh,

7:46

college style of the pros doesn't

7:49

work. Pros to

7:51

college seems like it's

7:53

a little better transition, a little

7:55

smoother transition. But when you bring

7:57

that raw row stuff in college

8:00

where you're the dictator, total

8:02

autonomy, and then you go to the NFL where

8:05

a lot of the players, most of the players are making

8:07

more money than you, and

8:09

they've been through this, they don't want to listen to this. But

8:12

Urban is he's going to try to pull this off

8:14

with that college mentality. And

8:17

that's where I think where you have other NFL

8:19

coaches, Daryl Bebel is your

8:21

offensive coordinator, like you get those guys to kind

8:24

of soften you a little bit of this

8:26

is what you need to do. But urban

8:29

Meyer's probably saying, I got to change the culture

8:31

here because the culture you've

8:33

had has not been successful, sustainable.

8:36

This is the kind of you

8:39

know, level of

8:41

confidence here, professionalism

8:43

that I want to bring in here. I want to hold

8:45

you accountable, Yeah, Paulin, So

8:48

it would it be like a Nick Saban

8:50

uses almost a fear based system where

8:52

you're in fear of losing your job and fear

8:54

of losing games. I don't know if that's you know, I don't see

8:56

those practices, but that's kind of has been described.

8:59

Tony Dungee said he was the opposite. He wouldn't

9:01

yell. He would he'd pull you over and not embarrass

9:03

you in front of other teammates and talk to

9:05

you calmly and use positive reinforcement

9:07

to get you to be better than you think you can. Yeah,

9:09

but there are very few coaches who have to meet

9:12

demeanor of Tony Dungee, Right, I mean that's

9:14

a pro coaches like the pro

9:16

versus college. You think's more pro coaches

9:18

that are calm in business Like, No, I don't

9:20

think any of them are. I just

9:23

think the stakes are so high

9:25

that, you know, college you love to

9:27

yell at guy. I never understood that whenever

9:30

I'd see that, like, hey, you gotta yell

9:32

at a football player, I gotta grab your face mask

9:35

and I go, does that work?

9:38

Because I would think if I if I just talked

9:40

to you in a stern voice, but

9:43

a quieter voice, and just

9:45

I would get my point across instead of I'm

9:47

gonna grab you and I'm gonna shake you up, and you're

9:49

gonna go out there and win, win,

9:52

win, And I'm like, I don't know if that works. You

9:54

see, my son had a coach who was always

9:56

fond of screaming at the kids relax,

10:01

and like, buddy, that's that is just

10:03

not the way to get somebody to relax, especially

10:05

when they're like nine and ten years at

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show email address VP at dan Patrick dot

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com, Twitter handle at DP show, uh

10:19

McLean when you have what were the other poll

10:22

questions we had? Okay, we're work

10:24

shopping a poll here off the Christiano

10:26

Ronaldo news? Would you rather

10:29

wait? What's the news? Oh that the news

10:31

is there's no news yet. We

10:33

had a debate. This our typical in

10:35

the break debate whose career would you want? Throwing

10:38

out Tom Brady, Lebron James

10:40

and we settled on Christiano Ronaldo slash

10:43

Lionel Messi. So would you rather be the greatest

10:45

soccer player, football player or

10:47

basketball player? Guess

10:49

it depends where you're voting a little bit. If you're in America,

10:52

it might be different. Yeah,

10:55

um, do I want to be Messi

10:57

or Ronaldo, Lebron

11:01

or Tom Brady? They'll

11:04

sweet seem like they're that. That's the three

11:07

fourths of them Mount Rushmore, right, Yeah,

11:12

uh, I mean

11:15

Ronaldo. I mean that's worldwide.

11:17

How many followers does he have? He's got like

11:19

a one hundred I

11:21

think he's the most followed person on

11:24

earth on Instagram.

11:26

Yeah, I think he is. I think he's number one. But

11:29

but how like one hundred and fifty

11:31

two hundred million followers?

11:34

I know there for a while Katie Perry Taylor

11:37

Swift had over one hundred millions. Selena

11:39

Gomez had like over one hundred million.

11:42

Yes, I got the top Instagram accounts

11:44

of Christian Ronaldo, Dwayne

11:47

the Rock Johnson his second

11:49

in the world. What kind of numbers two hundred

11:51

and sixty five million. Christ numb Ronald has

11:53

got over three hundred fifty million. Yeah,

11:55

I think right now. I'm looking at his Instagram

11:58

profile and it's three hundred and thirty three million.

12:02

Yeah, Leonol Messi's up there. I'm athlete

12:05

wise. But did they

12:07

put a lot of stuff on their social media?

12:10

Does Lionel Messi put

12:13

Hey, I'm having this meal, I'm gonna

12:15

take a picture of a sandwich. Ronaldo has

12:17

a lot of shots of him

12:20

topless, not wearing a shirt,

12:22

and that's why we all follow, and that's why we follow.

12:24

I don't know if guys can be topless. I think

12:26

they're shirtless. He appears to be. He

12:29

appears to be topless to me, and he wears blouse

12:31

is not shirts. Yeah. Lebron

12:33

James has ninety six million Instagram

12:36

followers compared to Christiano Ronaldo's

12:38

three thirty five million. Are you even an

12:40

influencer? Bro go?

12:44

Wow? How

12:46

much money does he make by being an influencer?

12:50

Ronaldo? He supposedly

12:52

he makes more money through just

12:54

through Instagram than he does playing soccer,

12:58

like his actual salary, he makes

13:00

more money just through Instagram.

13:02

Chris Sale recorded the third immaculate

13:05

inning of his career. I

13:07

don't remember hearing about the immaculate

13:10

inning. That's where you strike

13:12

out all three batters you face and

13:15

you only need nine pitches to do so. He

13:18

did that last night. Sale

13:20

joined Sandy Kofax as the only pitchers

13:24

on record with three immaculate innings

13:26

in their careers. Sales the first

13:28

to throw an immaculate inning at Fenway since

13:30

Pedro Martinez back in two thousand

13:33

and two. Here is Chris

13:35

Sale after the game, and

13:37

it starts with a reporter question, Chris

13:40

after the homer, I believe you hit ninety eight

13:42

for the first time this season. Just how

13:44

do you decide once you use that and sort

13:47

of go about that and complimenting

13:49

putting it into your awesinal That's probably

13:52

the most pissed I've been on a baseball field in

13:54

a while. You know that that's

13:56

just coming out of anger and frustration.

13:58

I'd like to call those f fastballs. I can't really

14:01

say the word, but yeah, I mean

14:03

I got pissed and I I got

14:05

going. You know, today was

14:07

probably the best my mechanics have been and

14:10

uh, you know that mixed with a little

14:12

bit of hate. Honestly, really kind

14:14

of just got extended and let

14:16

it eat. What is the sign

14:19

for an f you fastball? That's

14:22

is it a middle finger? Catcher

14:24

puts down middle finger? There, all right,

14:27

fe fastball? Now he'd been

14:29

great and then he gave up a home run. But he

14:31

did have the immaculate inning. Yes, Hunt, it

14:33

seems a little dramatic. It like to call it

14:35

something like religious or biblical, like that immaculate

14:38

coast which the frank O Harris played. Really,

14:40

that's it. It happens. It's one inning, it's nine

14:43

strikes, and it's quite an accomplishment

14:45

that it's unique and quirky but immaculate,

14:47

where it looks like the gods all aligned to help

14:49

you get those nine strikes. I don't know, Well, would

14:51

you call it just a perfect ending? I would

14:54

like that a lot better. I think I'd be more comfortable with

14:56

that. Can we come up with another name aside

14:58

from immaculate, pristine?

15:01

Like nine pitches nine

15:04

strikes, Yes, mcclub by

15:06

way. In today's game, it is no longer

15:08

a rare inning. It's already happened five times

15:10

this year, and they're a bunch of nobody's

15:12

who've thrown them Chad Green, Michael

15:15

King, the immaculated inning. Yeah, it's not that big

15:17

a deal. I just googled it. But it

15:19

used to be a big deal. But now everybody strikes out

15:22

every single time. Mcluban's

15:24

right. In the eighties, it happened four

15:28

times in the entire decade of the eighties.

15:30

Is happened four times in

15:32

the past eight weeks. Yeah,

15:34

but in the eighties they care about putting the battle

15:36

on the ball. Now it's

15:38

okay, Oh, this is no it should

15:40

be called the no big deal inning immaculate

15:43

but okay, scene did it the other day.

15:46

At some point, does

15:48

the managers say to one of the hitters,

15:50

after the first two guys who've struck out on six pitches,

15:53

Hey, Jimmy Lipper, how about you take

15:56

a pitch? Well, yeah, yeah,

15:58

there's a chance that he'll throw a ball. You don't have to

16:00

give him nine pitches. It's just like seed was mentioned

16:02

earlier. When the first two batters get out on the first

16:05

pitch, why would the third batters swing at

16:07

the first pitch and give this guy three But

16:09

but this isn't He had nine pitches

16:12

and he struck him out, all swinging. I

16:14

don't think is it. Is there a term

16:16

for that, because it's just

16:18

these these three batters

16:21

struck out on nine pitches, but

16:23

I don't know if they were swinging. You

16:26

always take the first strike, you do, Yeah,

16:28

you don't swing it the first one, so you take that one.

16:32

I would always tell people

16:35

swing at the first pitch because

16:37

as a pitcher, I wanted to get ahead of you

16:39

in the count. And chances

16:42

are that's your meat ball. But

16:46

let's see if you can catch up to my cheese. That

16:48

was the big wasn't

16:50

the name of your biography? Yeah, you played baseball.

16:52

See if you can catch up to my cheese. Great

16:54

book, Thanks for the coffee. It

16:56

was not a New York Times best seller,

16:59

yes, ton and unless the picture was wild and literally,

17:01

if the manager came to you and said take

17:03

a strike, he's really saying the only chance

17:06

you have if you if you get leaved

17:08

about it, your soul of Hopefield frow footballs and

17:10

you know, looking back, I threw hard. I

17:13

was called fast but won't last.

17:15

That was my nickname. That's

17:18

Fritzie's nickname too, that's

17:21

true. But I should

17:23

have thrown one, you know, to the

17:25

backstop, like just let's set the tone

17:28

here that just I'm nucleulusition

17:30

you here all right, Let me take a break. Jared

17:32

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19:00

on your mind Coome

19:02

morning, gentlemen, Happy Friday. Thank

19:04

you for taking my call. Man,

19:06

I gotta just start DP man, I've been I've

19:08

been listening all week, man, and congratulations

19:11

to you man on making the Hall of Fame. You've

19:13

given so many people a platform

19:16

to speak on your show, like myself, Jeff

19:18

and It, Troy, Ryan and Hollolulu, Shay

19:20

and Irvy. Man. You've given them so many people opportunities.

19:23

I want to say thank you, man, and congratulations

19:25

again on your hard work. Dan. That's you're

19:27

a part of it too, Man, So all you guys.

19:30

Man, what a great show man moving

19:32

forward? Man, it's crazy

19:34

man, listening to the pundance around

19:36

the nation talk about the Washington football

19:38

team as if they're gonna be something great this

19:41

year. Man, it's so different than years

19:43

past. And I don't know if you're open

19:45

to a DP. But a couple of years

19:47

ago, man, you made a bet with

19:49

me if Washington made the playoffs. You

19:52

know I could come in studio with you guys for a

19:54

day. Now. I'm gonna I'm gonna up the

19:56

Auntie and if Washington

19:58

were to make the NC Championship,

20:01

if you would be open to that kind of bet again,

20:03

and I would do a shower of shame if they lost.

20:05

But I would love that, man, because

20:08

you guys have been being part of my life

20:10

for the last fourteen fifteen years. So thank

20:12

you again. Man, you guys have a great day. We

20:14

are Washington, all right. I always

20:16

love the enthusiasm from James. Even when

20:18

his team wasn't any good, he was still

20:21

he looked for those moral victories

20:23

there. I think it's safe to

20:25

make that bet with James in Virginia.

20:28

If Washington goes to the like, I have

20:30

to set a time limit on this. It can't be

20:32

like in perpetuity. If they make it, you're

20:34

safe then too. Yeah, I

20:38

want to meet the guy. If that's the bet, we're never going to see him.

20:41

Well, you know, Jeff and Detroit. Maybe

20:44

if Jeff makes that same bad if the Lions

20:46

get to the NFC title Game, then Jeff gets

20:48

to come in. Well,

20:50

okay, we got COVID. We got to make sure they're based

20:52

safe before we invite people up here. But

20:55

I would I wouldn't have James.

20:59

If Washington would go to the NFC title

21:02

game. I think we'd be okay

21:04

with that. Bett and he doesn't have to

21:06

do a shower. Shane. That's asking

21:08

a lot for the Washington football team. But

21:11

there are a lot of you

21:13

know, a lot of analysts. Even I don't know if

21:15

Jimmy Jimmerson thinks the Washington football

21:17

team is going to win that division,

21:19

the NFC East. Let's go to our resident

21:21

football analysts who played in the National Football

21:24

League, Jimmy Jimerson. Jimmy, Well, right now, Ron

21:26

Rivera hasn't announced the starter, Okay,

21:28

So what that means is he's still evaluating

21:31

Ryan Fitzpatrick to see if he will be

21:33

the starter week one. It's possible he will

21:36

be no official word on that just yet.

21:39

I don't know if you answered the question. But that's Jimmy

21:42

Jimmerson. Thank you Jimmy anytime.

21:44

Yeah, the National Football League to a

21:46

man, to a man right now,

21:48

the Washington football team. What

21:52

I'm hearing, you know? And once

21:54

again that I have two friends

21:56

who are analysts and they keep thinking I'm making

21:58

fun of them with Jimmy Jimmer and it's

22:01

not. Well, okay, so I should be clear

22:03

then I'm actually being an insider, not an

22:05

analyst. Oh, I'm being an inside Okay.

22:07

So actually I never played Okay,

22:10

Oh you didn't, No, no, no, I never played. Oh,

22:12

Jimmy Jimmerson's I was a scout

22:15

somewhere at one team.

22:18

Okay, sometimes okay, Jimmy Jimmerson.

22:21

Jared Goff the Lions quarterback.

22:24

Let me see, I got the numbers here. Last year

22:26

he threw for almost four thounced in yards, twenty touchdowns,

22:29

thirteen interceptions and

22:31

uh, of course was the quarterback when

22:33

the Rams went to the Super Bowl and

22:36

Jared Golf joining us on the program.

22:38

What how long did it take for you to

22:40

feel comfortable looking at yourself in a Lions

22:43

uniform? You know, it

22:45

wasn't wasn't too long. Pretty quickly I think, you

22:47

know, seeing that jersey for the first time is you

22:49

know, maybe a little a little different, but you

22:51

know, it's it's been fun. Man, It's been a good transition.

22:53

And yeah, so maybe a week and uh,

22:56

what was your first impression of coach campbell Man

22:59

when I first met I mean, when I first talked on the phone.

23:01

Um, you know, it was it was obviously exciting

23:03

and um to hear from him and to hear

23:06

his voice and to hear how excited he was about

23:08

me, and and just furthermore, getting a chance to talk

23:10

to him was was fun. It was really cool

23:12

and really really gave me a you

23:14

know, the rejuvenation, that breadth of fresh air thing

23:16

and um, and then being around him ever since

23:18

then it's it's more the same. You know. The dude's genuine,

23:20

he is who he is, and um, I'm

23:23

excited to see him and and be a part of

23:25

this you know whole turnaround here. But

23:27

what hell's his coaching style play into

23:29

what you need to do to be successful

23:32

me personally? Yeah?

23:35

Yeah, you know, I think he has

23:37

a nice mix of you know, telling

23:39

you the truth when it's not what you want to hear, and at

23:41

the same time, you know, he's he's he's a loving

23:43

guy. He's a loving coach and and gives

23:45

you that as well. So it's a good mix of that and

23:48

and for me personally, I love it. You know, I love being held accountable,

23:50

but I need to do and at the same time, you know, just if

23:53

I do something right, let me know, how would you

23:55

do arm wrestling with him? He'd

23:57

kick my ass. He

24:00

looks like he can still play. He looks like he can still play.

24:02

And uh, you know, we joke at them all the time. Ay man,

24:04

you've got a few reps in you? And he says, no, of course

24:06

not. But you know, maybe one of these days we'll got him to run a

24:08

couple of outs. But you can't be hurt

24:11

around him, can you, Like, you can't say I'm

24:13

banged up because he tells

24:15

all these stories where he played through a lot

24:17

of pain. Yeah, no doubt, I mean it

24:20

is. It is fun to play for a guy who's

24:22

kind of been through it, truly firsthand experience on

24:24

multiple teams, on multiple good teams and

24:26

on teams that haven't had success. He's seen both sides of

24:28

it, and he's obviously had his charles and tribulations

24:31

as a player, and like you mentioned, you know he's been he's been banged

24:33

up. I'm sure at the tight end position playing the way he did.

24:35

So yeah, there isn't much much to complain

24:37

about around him, that's for sure. Explain this

24:40

to our audience and those of us

24:42

who never played. When a coach said, oh, it was a bad

24:44

practice, like, what is a bad

24:46

practice in August? Yeah?

24:49

Usually, I mean, at least now, it's you

24:51

know, it's sloppy, it's hot, it's you

24:53

know, you know, guys are jumping off sides, Paul's

24:55

getting dropped from miss and throws. It's

24:58

more so mental than anything this

25:00

point. You know, when when guys get tired, you know, some

25:02

of those mental mistakes come up. And I

25:04

think that's the sign of a good team, is when

25:06

you know it is hot and you are tired and things

25:08

aren't going your way, to stay on point and do

25:10

what you're supposed to do. What's the worst thing

25:12

a rookie can do show

25:15

up late or or or

25:17

not do what the veterans tell him to do. What

25:20

happens if they show up late, I

25:22

mean, it's a it's a fine, it's it's whatever

25:24

the coach decides to do. But it's it's

25:27

more so just kind of a you know, showing

25:29

that you're not really a pro yet, you know. And for

25:31

them, we haven't had any of that. It's just been

25:33

good. But I think furthermore, you know,

25:35

if if that asks you to go pick them

25:37

up some food, you go pick them up some food or something like

25:39

that. Did you get hazed with the rams?

25:43

Uh? You know? When I was there, Fisher

25:45

was the head coach as a rookie, and he was pretty

25:48

you know, firmly against that, so I didn't have much

25:50

of it. I remember I had to I had to run coffee

25:52

runs for for Case and then Sean Manuel at

25:54

the time, and that was that was that was part

25:56

of the job at that time. And Case couldn't be

25:58

couldn't have been better than me as a rookie. So it was good

26:00

with it. But also when you get to that point

26:02

where they know that you're going to be the starting

26:04

quarterback, but in the meantime you

26:07

kind of have to do what they tell you to do. You

26:09

got to pay your dues man, everyone does, no matter no

26:11

matter who you are, And I think that's kind of consistent

26:13

across the league. And it was no different for me,

26:15

that's for sure. What are the expectations

26:18

in Detroit and how do they change

26:20

from what they were with the Rams? Yeah,

26:23

I mean internally, they don't change. Internally,

26:25

it's you know, win games and first

26:27

goal is when you're a division and then go from there and

26:29

be in the playoffs. Internally, obviously,

26:31

the external you

26:34

know, implications are different and what

26:36

people think of the team may be different, but internally

26:39

it's the same every year for all three two teams, I would imagine.

26:42

And we're no different. You know, We've got all the players we can have,

26:44

we could ever want, and all the coaches we could

26:46

ever want. We got everything here. It's about going out and executing,

26:48

doing your job and showing up on Sundays.

26:51

What's the biggest difference between LA

26:53

and Detroit? Oh?

26:55

Man, I mean the culture is entirely

26:57

different. I'm speaking about

27:00

the city. Um, you

27:02

know, I'll just being around the city,

27:04

it's it's different. It's it's the Midwest, you know, It's

27:07

it's it's more. There's more like I think

27:09

there's a little more colon area out here, which is cool for

27:11

me to experience. There's obviously more you

27:13

know, green More Lakes, which is cool. Um.

27:16

I've lived in California in my whole life, so getting too experience

27:18

this has been really fun for me and really a cool

27:20

experience. But it's a kind of a beer

27:22

and shot kind of place. It's not

27:25

not why one keeps saying this now and everyone

27:27

keeps telling me, I'll just wait till the winter, and I know it's

27:30

I'm enjoying it right now and think, you

27:32

know, thankfully we're playing inside and got some indoor

27:35

games later in the year as well. Yeah you're okay,

27:37

Minnesota, you're inside Detroit

27:39

to play inside. I mean you gotta go to Lambeau.

27:42

Yeah, that's all right. We played there in January. Chicago,

27:45

yep, yep. Which the worst

27:47

weather you ever played in? Worst

27:49

weather? Oh man? Um.

27:51

We had one in Denver that was surprisingly cold a few

27:54

years ago. I think it was about ten degrees. It

27:56

wasn't snow and it was just cold. Um. And

27:58

that snowed a little bit in that Green Bay game last year,

28:00

but that wasn't particularly cold. It was just it

28:02

was just a little dristle snow. I've

28:05

never had like the white field stuff. I've never had

28:07

to experience that, So maybe I will, but it'll

28:09

be fun. You're going to I

28:12

can't wait. We're talking to the

28:14

Lions. Quarterback Jared Goff finished

28:16

this sentence. The reason why I'm no longer a

28:18

RAM is oh

28:20

Man, Dan, that's not a question for me. Um,

28:23

Well, why you think you're not

28:25

a Ram? Yeah? Hey, then they

28:27

had they had decisions to make. They wanted to make the decision.

28:30

That's part of this league and the way things go. But i couldn't

28:32

be happy to be here. And I've had so much fun,

28:34

um, you know, building this thing up with Dan

28:37

and the rest of the coaches and players, and it's

28:39

been it's been a joy for me. It's really has

28:41

been. It's it's been. It's been a really fun challenge

28:43

and something that I'm looking forward to putting on the field this

28:45

fall. I know you don't want to look back.

28:47

I'm just care about the curious about the

28:49

process of moving forward. How

28:52

do you get over a breakup when somebody

28:54

says they no longer like you? I

28:58

mean, it's it's the

29:00

same way as anything else. You know, I got people who do like

29:02

me, and you focus on that. You focus on

29:04

what you have and and all the good

29:06

things, and you know that it's part of

29:08

this league. It's part of the business. I mean, I'm sure you

29:10

know. It's not quite the same. But in some regards,

29:13

you guys go through it in the media with you know, ESPN

29:15

or or or where you're at now, like it's it's you

29:18

know, you got people that do love you, and you got people that don't anymore,

29:20

and that's the way things go. Yeah, but I'm still mad at

29:22

ESPN. See I've gotten past that. Yeah,

29:24

Yeah, are you still mad? Yeah?

29:27

And you can be mad and and there's parts of me that still

29:29

are, of course. But you know, I've got I've got some things

29:31

to look forward to here that I'm excited about. Uh

29:34

what do you do with your old RAMS gear? Because if you don't

29:36

want it, maybe I could give it to the Dan Edge

29:38

for a Christmas gift. I'd sell sent it to you guys,

29:41

don't I don't know if I have it anymore. I've

29:43

probably been donated at this point. But uh,

29:46

you also, you got some lions here instead. How's that sounds?

29:49

That's okay? I mean, I'm I mean, I'm okay

29:51

with that. But have you gotten mistaken

29:53

for Ryan Gosling in Detroit? Uh?

29:56

No, I have not No, that

29:58

was just an LA thing. Yeah,

30:00

and that doesn't I mean I haven't had that happen in

30:02

about a while, but uh, you know that

30:05

would if that were to happen, it would happen much more

30:07

outlet. And it's a good

30:09

thing that if it happens. I mean, you know, if

30:11

somebody says, oh, hey, I love you in

30:14

your movies, like, that's okay, Yeah,

30:16

that's okay, that's okay. I'll just I'll play

30:18

along with it at times. Yeah. Well,

30:21

good luck there in Detroit. Great to talk to you

30:23

again, and uh, we appreciate your

30:25

time. Thank you, Dan, I appreciate it's always

30:27

fun on here and I hope you and the dan Nettes have

30:29

a have a solid weekend. I got

30:31

the I got the the old Rams

30:33

jersey. Here the Jared golf jersey. Um,

30:36

well it's time for a new one. Huh. How

30:39

about after your first win? Could I could

30:41

we get the Lions first win and

30:43

we hang that up. I can give

30:45

you one that looks like, wait,

30:49

are you gonna use that for somebody? Wait?

30:51

You're gonna keep that for yourself? Or that

30:54

one? Yeah? Okay, how about the

30:56

third win? Sure you can

30:58

have the third, one third third?

31:01

McLevin, would you check when when

31:04

golf is playing? Who's he playing? Like the third

31:06

game? When's he play Rogers or somebody?

31:08

Can we find this out? We need like I need you

31:10

to beat somebody substantial here.

31:13

We played green blay A week two. Oh

31:15

so I can't get that jersey? Yeah, Paully,

31:18

you got to Yeah that's early. Uh. Bears

31:21

week four, Vikings week five,

31:23

Oh, okay, conference, I like it.

31:25

I like the are

31:28

you wait, are you calling your victory here? No,

31:31

I'm saying that's what would

31:33

you like? Uh? How

31:35

about Rams week seven? Okay?

31:43

I didn't want to bring that up. Paully made me bring

31:45

that up. That's all right. Yeah, hey,

31:48

thanks for joining us. Good luck. I

31:50

appreciate it, man, thanks for having me so Jared

31:52

Golf, Yeah, we'll

31:54

take the Lions jersey when you play the

31:56

Rams. I thought he was calling

31:59

his shot when he's said, well, which which game

32:01

do you want the jersey from it? Well, we want

32:03

it when you win a game. What's the

32:05

over under in Vegas for the Lions?

32:07

Mclovin. I just liked that were the most updated is

32:09

at five? Okay? Yeah,

32:12

Paula, you got the Lions schedule. Yeah,

32:14

this could be a tough start. Forty

32:17

nine ers week one, Hackers week two,

32:20

Ravens week three. Then

32:22

it cools offul of it. You got the Bears and Vikings and Bengals,

32:25

okay, and then week seven at the Rams.

32:27

Oh that's fun. Yeah,

32:29

Yeah, I like that. I

32:32

don't even know if he knows when it all

32:35

started to go south with Sean McVeigh,

32:38

because it felt like they were simpatico.

32:42

They they they were synchronicity with those

32:44

two, and then all of a sudden it was over. And

32:48

he has since commented, I think

32:50

with his introductory press conference in Detroit

32:52

where it wasn't quite sure when

32:55

it happened, but when it did, it was pretty

32:57

abrupt. Yeah. Paul Jared

32:59

Goff twenty eighteen, thirty

33:02

two touchdowns, twelve picks, forty seven

33:04

hundred yards. Pro Bowl, Yeah, two

33:06

Pro Bowls. Yeah, it doesn't almost feel like this

33:08

NFL. There's there's no patience for a good

33:10

quarterback anymore. Going back to like the Alex

33:12

Smith Kansas City situation. You

33:15

can't have a good quarterback. They'd rather have

33:17

a rebuild. Yeah,

33:20

it's just asking him to do

33:22

something that Matthew Stafford couldn't

33:25

do in Detroit. Is not

33:27

fair. I

33:29

mean, Stafford is going to face

33:31

a lot of pressure. Like in Detroit, we

33:33

sort of knew they were the Lions and there's

33:36

not much to expect and it

33:38

should be the same philosophy, but you're at golf. But

33:41

the Rams, the Rams ponied up a lot for Matthew

33:44

Stafford, Like this is a big

33:46

it's a big deal for Sean McVay, big

33:48

year for Sean McVeigh. It's like, okay,

33:52

well, offensive genius get

33:54

to a super Bowl. Maybe not an offensive genius.

33:56

Get Matthew Stafford in. Maybe an offensive

33:59

genius again, is it that fleeting?

34:03

Yes, maybe he'll be like the offensive

34:05

genius who wins games with defense. You know, there's

34:07

always like Brian Billick Baltimore.

34:09

I know Brian Billick was an offensive minded

34:12

head coach and they won with one of the great

34:14

defenses in NFL history. Famously

34:16

couldn't score points and be

34:18

like Ray Lewis would go, hey, give us ten

34:20

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34:22

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last call for phone calls, what we learn? What's

35:41

in store for Monday? We have

35:43

preseason, the last preseason games

35:45

coming up starting tonight. McLevin. Do you have

35:48

the schedule there you can run down for me. Yeah,

35:50

So tonight it starts out. You see

35:52

Pittsburgh get at Carolina at

35:54

Dwayne Haskins starting. That'd be a story,

35:57

wheren't it if he got a second chance as a backup

35:59

the big bend? Yeah?

36:02

I guess with what considering what happened

36:04

in Washington where he wasn't a professional,

36:07

and that I think because

36:10

he had a couple of games where I thought, Okay, you

36:12

know, maybe there's some talent there. But

36:14

you're basing what you did. First

36:16

of all, they reached for him because

36:19

the owner made it seemed like somebody else was going to

36:21

take Dwayne Haskins, and from what I was

36:23

told, that was not going to happen in the first round. But

36:25

you're basing your first round draft pick on

36:28

a quarterback that you got one great year out

36:30

of in college. And that's why it's trouble

36:33

trying to troubleshoot that and go, I think

36:35

he's going to be great. You just didn't know about

36:37

the maturity level, and urban Meyer even talked

36:39

about that with Dwayne Haskins

36:41

before Haskins I think was drafted. All

36:43

right, what else? Okay? At the National Game tonight, by the way,

36:45

on NFL Network is Minnesota at Kansas City.

36:48

Then on Saturday the National Game

36:50

that starts one pm Saturday, Green Bay

36:52

at Buffalo. I don't think

36:54

you'll see a lot of Rogers and Josh

36:56

Allen, but they're putting it on TV. Well,

36:59

but do I get to see George and Love? I

37:01

don't know he's hurt, right,

37:03

so I'll double check that long as he heard

37:06

for I'm not sure if he's back yet.

37:08

He could be, but I want

37:10

to see Jordan Love. Yeah, maybe he's back.

37:12

Sorry, we'll effort that. Also, Chicago

37:15

at Tennessee justin

37:18

Fields. I know Andy alls

37:20

a week one starter, but can he make up one more splash

37:22

here? Well you can. He's

37:25

gonna get all the Chicago fans too excited.

37:28

Yeah, but what's Tennessee look like? Do you want to go

37:30

play Tennessee given all the COVID issues they

37:33

have. That's a great point, oh

37:35

man, because then the following

37:37

week we started playing I

37:39

mean, can you do a scrimmage.

37:42

I don't know if that will matter either. But

37:44

then Saturday night the Rams at Seattle

37:46

on NFL Network. Then

37:48

there's also a bunch of games on Sunday

37:51

and they're on Big TV. Miami

37:53

plays Inincinnati on CBS at four.

37:56

I don't know why that's a big deal. Jacksonville

37:59

at Dallas. I don't think Dak will

38:01

play, but there's a lot of backup quarterback

38:03

situations. Vegas at

38:06

the Niners is on NFL Network. The

38:08

Patriots at the Giants is

38:11

interesting six pm on Sunday.

38:12

Okay, I guess we'll see Cam

38:14

and mac um.

38:20

Which one do you need to see more of

38:22

if you're Bill Belichick because

38:25

Cam has missed some time now coming

38:27

back, you have this avalanche

38:29

of mac Jones sycophants.

38:35

Wow, I

38:38

would probably want to see a little

38:40

of Cam out there, just

38:42

to see how he feels. And

38:45

it feels like they know what they have in Mac Jones. Yeah. MC

38:48

club. By the way, in that game the Giants play Sakewind

38:50

will not play in that game, and he's considered

38:53

iffy for a week one, although he's practicing

38:55

now. All right, Yeah, Paul, I want to knock on

38:57

wood here first, But it doesn't feel like there's been almost

38:59

no major injuries this preseason.

39:03

In the past, you know, four five years ago, seem there to always

39:06

be like a situation where a starting

39:08

quarterback would go down and some'll be traded for a running

39:10

back or Teddy Bridgewater. Back in the day, there's

39:12

a fewer games and the starters are playing almost

39:15

ten percent of those games. Yeah,

39:18

trying to think what's the big injury that Well,

39:20

the Jets loss a pass rusher,

39:22

Carl Lawson, who they had a lot of promise

39:24

for. But that's not There's been a lot of little

39:27

ones though, right quote unquote soft

39:29

ye try visa to you, Travis yep,

39:31

yeah, yeah, that's a bummer. Yeah.

39:33

Out for the year. Was he highly thought

39:35

of fantasy wise? Yes,

39:38

because he fantasy runding backs who catch the

39:40

ball are worth a little extra, especially if

39:42

you play points per reception, So the thinking

39:44

was that would be his main thing. Plus

39:47

he would be taking some of

39:49

the downs away from James

39:51

Robinson. Right, Robinson's

39:54

their thousand yard rusher, but I don't

39:56

know if they're using him as a pass

39:58

receiver. Do you remember how fantasy for ball

40:00

used to take a riding back one, two, and three all the time.

40:02

Now there's so many shared backfields you don't know

40:04

what to do. But Derrick Henry

40:07

seems to be He's the

40:09

alpha dog with all of this. How

40:11

long can how long can he play

40:14

that position the way he plays it? That's

40:17

what I'd be curious about, because they signed him

40:19

game that contract extension, and

40:21

we've seen these other running backs get hurt. And

40:23

that's a guy who takes on contact. Now he

40:25

delivers contact. But can

40:27

you continue to have that style? Yeah,

40:30

Paul, Derrick Henry's first three years in the league,

40:33

he's split time one hundred ten carries,

40:35

one seventy six, two fifteen. The past

40:37

two years three hundred three carries

40:39

and three hundred and seventy eight carries plus

40:41

one. He was at Alabama, didn't

40:43

he split carries there as well? Trent

40:46

Richardson, maybe does that sound

40:48

right? But and

40:51

then you got Nausea Harris coming in with the

40:53

Steelers and they feel like

40:55

they're going to be a lot more reliant on their running

40:57

game. They need to be, just

41:00

to help Ben a little bit, Paulie,

41:04

this day in sports history. You know, I love this one. Dan, Nobody's

41:06

got this one in nineteen twenty one, the owner of the Acme Packing

41:08

Company bought a pro football team for Green Bay,

41:10

Wisconsin. Change the name of the team

41:12

of the Packers, the Acme Packers.

41:15

Sounds familiar. Yeah, that's all I had. Yeah,

41:18

did they have a Yeah, there was a different game. They had no instant

41:20

replayback, and then games were much easier back

41:23

with the Acme Packers. Yeah it was. There's

41:25

no quarterback controversy in the off season. Really,

41:30

that's sound. We're gonna end the week Usually

41:33

Fritzie bums us out at the very end. Yeah,

41:37

I'm not gonna blame you for that. Uh,

41:40

final results, There's still plenty of time

41:42

for a

41:45

whole minute left, but underestiment

41:48

Uh final results to the point. What do

41:50

you watch this weekend? College football or preseason?

41:52

NFL seventy four percent College football week

41:54

zero? Yeah, good, I am. I'm

41:56

really curious about it. There's only a couple of preseason

41:59

games that I'm curious and one

42:01

of those is the Packers. If Jordan Love plays

42:04

and Dwayne Haskins, I'd be interested in that.

42:06

In justin fields, go around the room. What

42:08

we learned, Todd, would you learn today? When Russ Tucker

42:10

played for Bill Belichick. The only real conversation they had

42:12

was when Bill traded him to Cleveland. Mclovin

42:16

just read the Packers are unsure if

42:18

Jordan Love will play as a fifteen hours, But then

42:20

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