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You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show

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on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome to

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the program. Man. Lots happened

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in the first two hours of the show. I told

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you starting the show from a source

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that Nebraska was looking to have an opponent

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this weekend after Wisconsin. That game

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was canceled due to COVID and they

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scheduled a game in final negotiations

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with Tennessee Chattanooga. And

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then the big issue was they didn't

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seek permission from the Big Ten before they

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reached out to Tennessee Chattanooga, So

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Nebraska won't be playing football looks like

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this weekend. I'm not sure

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about what happens with Wisconsin football

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because my same source said they

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thought that the game against Perdue would

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be highly unlikely to be played.

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But still a little bit of time here

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understanding the testing procedures

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there, still trying to get results or

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at least information on what baseball

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is going to do with the Dodgers and Justin

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Turner. There is an internal investigation.

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Baseball should have an investigation on baseball

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before they get around to Justin Turner, in my opinion,

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because when you took him out of the lineup, where

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did he go? And who was watching him.

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Should he have stayed in the stadium, should he

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have been taken to a hotel room?

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What could you have done to have prevented

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him going out there? Why are you getting results

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mid game? Inconclusive?

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If you don't have results to start

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a game, should somebody be able

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to play in the game. I just apply

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common sense. And if I do

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have that information, do I say I'm not

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taking that factoring in until after

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the game, like once the game starts, then the game

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is played. But I think Baseball

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needs to do an investigation, major League Baseball

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right now, just so we have a good understanding

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of what happened. A source, a baseball

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source told me last night. A baseball source who's

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involved in this process said that probably

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not a suspension for Turner, but

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probably would be fine. The Dodgers would

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probably be fined as well. I don't

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know how much my source didn't

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know, but felt like that was what was going to happen.

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Falcons Panthers coming up tonight,

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and the Rockets have a new head

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coach, Stephen Silas. That's Paul Silas's

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son, seventy six is brought in GM.

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Darryl Morey and I

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mentioned about what's going on with baseball

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Justin Turner. The NFL. Now

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there's there's conflicting reports on the

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Super Bowl and how

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many fans they're going to allow. And

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at first the report was about twenty

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percent of capacity for the Super Bowl

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game in Tampa, and then it feels

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like the NFL has walked that back

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a little bit or the report on that. Mike

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Florio said that the NFL told him

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that they hadn't decided on the

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percentage you know, of capacity

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there, but it looks like it was around twenty to twenty five

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percent, which would feel like it would be the

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norm. That's such a long time away.

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It's not, but it feels like it's a long time away.

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Before we get to the super Bowl update

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the poll results. McLevin will also hear Bo

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Jackson telling us what he would do in today's

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NFL that'll be coming up a little

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bit. And Matt Ryan. We have Matt

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Ryan telling Todd Gurley, do not score

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a touchdown. We'll play that for

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you coming up as well. Yes, mclub, okay, we still have

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up. Would you trade a first round pick for jj Watt.

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Sixty eight percent say no, So it's getting closer.

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Yeah, the Houston Chronicle, I don't

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know if they said that the Texans

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should or making the suggestion they should explore

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trading jj Watt, and they should.

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Absolutely, this team isn't going anywhere.

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And if you can get something for jj Watt, take

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him off the books, you know, don't take a trip

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down memory lane. Do what the Patriots

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too. Patriots always get rid of you a

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year early, not a year late. He's

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a two time World Series champ with the Reds

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and two time nationally MVP.

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He's a Hall of Famer, the greatest catcher ever. Johnny

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Bench joining us on the program, and Johnny

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is going to be auctioning off his personal

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collection of Hall of Fame items, and

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he's auctioning off everything but his Hall of Fame

3:59

ring. He'll be using the auction

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proceeds to help his three young sons

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with their education. Hunt

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auctions dot com for more information.

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Johnny joins us, Now what should I buy? Johnny?

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Ooh ooh, okay,

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I mean I love everything is going. I

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mean this is the Legends

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ring. Let's see. Okay, I got this from

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remember we got there, we go. Okay, that's a legends

4:24

ring, living legend. All right, when

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I die, you can have all

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of fame right hand, the

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Bob Buker bubble head, the Harry

4:36

Doyle bobble head Harriet, signed

4:38

by Harry Doyle himself. Now that's off

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limits, that totally are

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looking. Would you sell any of your stuff

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right there in front of you? No? I would not, No,

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I would not. Why now?

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Uh,

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I don't know. My my We've been trying to plan

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and everything else. I've got fourteen year old

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and eleven year old sons. Center later

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college is going to be coming up. They're going to be one to be

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going to certain colleges and certain opportunities

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that kind of come to them. And you know, I

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got my oldest son through Boston University

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at AT in a great expense,

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and I made two point two million

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in my entire career, So you know

5:17

that that's about two weeks worth of work

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now in them major league. And I you

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know, you need the money to do it and you want

5:24

them to best for it. And so many people

5:26

tell stories about Now I know

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Bob Gibson was talking about his At one time,

5:30

his family was arguing over who

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got what? Who got? I want that? No, I want

5:35

this. And then I've had just friends in mind

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calling said, I can tell you the drama that goes on

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at when somebody tries to divide

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something up, whether it be antiques,

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whether it be art, whether it be it. No, Mom wanted

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me to have that. And then I've

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had families that are destroyed there you know, they're

5:50

separated, there do it. But I want

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them to have a great opportunity. And let's

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face it, where where are all the sting? Even some of it's

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been in the museum and binger and but a

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lot of it's in boxes and safe deposit boxes.

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And and it's a good opportunity

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for me. We've been exploring it for a while. It's

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been a thought, and uh, I

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think it's gonna be a great opportunity to provide them with the

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future. What it will be the toughest

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item to part with. Oh,

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well, some of those I've kept, I mean, you

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know, I mean like my Larry Bird basketball

6:23

you know, signed to meet you know, Larry Bird, same birthday,

6:25

same day. Now, I guess, uh,

6:28

probably the MVP trophies, the

6:31

MVP trophies, And I got a soder

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oh bad, do you have any of those? I

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have? I have the only bat I believe,

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I'm pretty sure in existence signed

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by the All Century team that

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is in my possession. So

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you know, it's it's the rings, it's the Hall

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of Fame plaques and stuff. Kept my Thurman

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months an award. I kept my Hutch award I

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wanted because you know, they mean a

6:56

lot and I didn't want to put them in there. And there's

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a lot of great stuff in there. But uh,

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you know, how do you how do you always pick?

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But the boys decision was

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they they didn't argue over the rings,

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they weren't worried about it. And

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so this is a better opportunity

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for me, and and it seems like in a

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down year that it might not be the best time.

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But you know, auctions have done well and

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people are interested. I saw the Vin Scully auction.

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I don't know if you did. Yeah, Scully auction

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was was huge and a lot of people out

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there would like to have something. And I

7:29

had French called said they're bidding on stuff that I never

7:31

even thought, you know, I would

7:33

even consider that. So how much

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is a gold glob going to cost me? Pends

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on the year. Strangely enough, the

7:42

year, I guess coincides with if

7:44

I want an MVP or I was Rookie of the Year something

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somebody. That's what they're saying. It's

7:48

probably going to cross you anywhere from twenty five to

7:50

fifty, which is you know, you

7:52

know, a couple of days work. That is that

7:55

is now that the peacock is come along. Yes, that's

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true. Um, there's

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also the painting by

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Leroy Nieman. Yes, famous

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Leroy Nieman painting there. I think there's a

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reserved on that. And

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you have quite a collection of leroy Nemans. Of what

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I hear I have a I have a couple of them in

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here. Yeah, absolutely, but they're nudes of

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me. Hey,

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how about an even great? I'll

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give you a nude Leroy Neeman for

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the leroy Neiman of you? All right, it's fair. I don't

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need a n No,

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no, it's me. It's it's me nude

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by Leroy Neiman without the Dane's

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right. No, no they're not. They're

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not in alved But but if I walk

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into your house, how long does it

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take before I realize what you do for a living?

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Uh? This is the office? Is that

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my son? Put together. Okay, there's

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a lot of stuff. So,

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I mean, you know, I do a lot of stuff with

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Hope for the Warriors, I do some

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charity work. I'll be sleep. Here's a

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here's a cool thing. Bob Hope when

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I went with him and then the Airborne.

9:05

This is pretty cool. This is a roast, the

9:08

Johnny Bench roast. Bob Hope was the MC. That's

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all we could get that day, the

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All Century team.

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How about this one? Now, this is really cool.

9:17

My assistant got this sign for me. I hope

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it's not a reflection, but this is me

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on the steps of Cooperstown

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right outside the back. Yeah, they're all

9:26

of the Hall of Famers and a Titaness and my assistant

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got them all to sign it. How

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many Hall of Famers you got there? I'm

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going to say forty thirty

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five to forty

9:38

Who was the best storyteller when you guys

9:40

got together at the Hall of Fame? You

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know? Strangely enough, I

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love to listen to George Brett. George

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he's one of my favorite people. Like he's one

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of my favorite people. George is a stud

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man and he always laughs

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when he tells the story. You remember,

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so did you know him. I mean, yeah, that's but

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it's so vivid, you know, and everything's still and

10:05

where they did it, and you know, you

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know, different people see things in different

10:10

ways. They never you see this, and they

10:12

see it differently and they pull it out and they

10:14

stretch it out and everything else. I

10:17

mean, there was nothing like doing that.

10:19

Now. I loved this, you know, strangely enough, I don't

10:21

know if it's strange. Gaylord

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Perry sits in the lobby

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of the Osaga Hotel and

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I sit there and listen to the stories

10:30

and just roar because he you know, the

10:33

things that he does and in the positions

10:35

and everything else. It's it's really cool,

10:37

you know, and fun. Fun is the new guys,

10:39

you know, Pedro Martinez and the

10:42

big hurt Man. There.

10:44

There's some fun stuff and I'm gonna need

10:46

a lot of fun coming up after the past.

10:48

But that's past a few. Did you

10:50

care if a pitcher was loading up a pitch

10:53

like Gaylord Perry threw a spit ball?

10:55

You know, Nolan Ryan is alleged to have cut

10:57

the ball, or you know, somebody with doctor ball.

11:00

What did you care

11:03

if that if a pitcher was doing that, well,

11:07

I would just say so. If I knew he had

11:09

it loaded, I would look for it and I could and then if I waited

11:11

for the drop to hit it. But I don't know if you el ever

11:13

told you a story about Jim Maloney was decided

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he was going to load him up. He said, John, we're gonna

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load him up. I think I'm gonna load them up.

11:20

Because this is when Phil Reagan and and well

11:23

and the Gaylord was, you know, loading him up.

11:25

He says, he said, I think we better have a sign. I

11:27

said, throw it, I'll catch it. Well,

11:30

two strikes, two outs, first in the first

11:32

end and he throws one. I don't touch it, hits

11:34

me right on top of the toe. Second

11:37

and he two outs, two strikes. He throws it again,

11:39

hits me on top of the shin guard and bounces back

11:41

to him. And I walked out, and

11:43

I said, we're gonna have to have a say.

11:46

I never took my eyes off of

11:48

him again. Ever, how do you load

11:50

a today? How do you load it up? Well,

11:52

it's just a little vassline behind the ear. Okay,

11:55

you know Gaylord used to do. When they told him

11:57

he couldn't do it anymore, he would take his thumb

11:59

on his brow up here, and

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so he never looked at all. He didn't touch his fingers.

12:04

He just loaded her. And then when he put

12:07

it back down, he just put his fingers on it right

12:09

here. So I never took my eyes off. But we're

12:11

in Forbesfield and somebody

12:13

in the dugout the manager hollered at me, and I looked in

12:15

the dugout, and then I thought, oh, did he

12:18

load did he give me the same? He

12:20

threw this thing. It started here and

12:23

it dropped so hard I

12:25

barely caught leather on it right there, hit

12:29

me in the cup, broken in seven places. And

12:31

that was the last time, needless to say that

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he ever loaded it up. So he's

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Johnny Bench. You can check out all the auction

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I did think about you the other night when I'm

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watching the World Series and when Kevin

12:51

Cash goes out to take out Blake Snell, and

12:53

I wondered what role the catcher can play

12:55

there? Now you were established,

12:58

you were one of the better players, best player in

13:00

the game. Can you do

13:02

you think the catcher could have played a role to say,

13:05

look, he's still got bite, he's

13:07

got velocity. These guys aren't catching

13:09

up to anything. Because he went out with

13:11

the predetermined all right, he gave up

13:13

a hit. Mookie's up, I'm taking

13:15

you out like there was no wiggle room there. Yeah,

13:19

that was the matchup, and that was the hardest thing to described,

13:21

but it was. It was Mookie. I don't

13:23

any other player any other matter. I don't think he takes

13:25

him out. I think the analytics are

13:28

so big a part of this game right now that that's

13:30

a commitment to do it. But it has

13:32

to be a thing. And I some managers

13:34

like Sparky never wanted the pitcher to lose a

13:36

game. They never wanted him to be the losing pitcher

13:38

if he pitched that well. I had

13:40

such a report was Sparky that I would look

13:42

over him the dugout and he knew when

13:44

I looked at him that he needed to get somebody warmed

13:47

up. I would come in off the field and I said,

13:49

get somebody up, and we could do that.

13:52

I think there's a the analytics

13:55

are there, and it buried. It's buried

13:57

in the game now, it's it's embedded and

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think it's going to do it. You know, mister

14:02

Cash is gonna, you know, listen to

14:04

it like every manager and everybody's going

14:06

to second guess. And but

14:08

it was Mookie. I mean, let's face it. I

14:10

mean, any other batter probably in baseball

14:12

at this time, they probably wouldn't have taken him out. But it

14:15

was a situation where everything

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dictated. My dictation

14:21

would have been had if I were

14:23

catching, is that I will pitch around

14:25

Mookie because they've gotten him out. They struck him

14:27

out a couple of times, and then they got him to the groundballs

14:29

and a couple of things. I would have pitched around

14:31

him and hope that Mookie being anxious

14:34

in that situation. Now he's got a great eye, but you

14:36

try to get them to chase a pitch that they

14:39

normally wouldn't go after. And I

14:42

thought it was a tough decision. Snell

14:45

didn't want to come out. I mean, he had

14:47

him. He was out where he wanted to be. And

14:51

that was a decision that sometime the organization

14:54

makes by making analytics the most important

14:56

thing before I let you go. I

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know, it's been a tough couple of weeks. Joe

15:00

Morgan and uh you know, I

15:02

I'm trying to capture Joe Morgan to

15:04

let you know, a new generation know just how

15:07

special he was because he

15:09

did everything and you

15:11

don't see a guy that size who

15:13

is you know, power hitter. He was a Gold

15:15

Glove winner, two time MVP, the

15:18

spark for that team. And if

15:21

you do, you have a favorite story of Joe.

15:25

The thing about Joe was his favorite

15:27

favorite player was Nellie Fox. So he's

15:29

five foot seven, five foot seven,

15:31

and he and Nelly became a

15:33

mentor of his. Actually when he went to Houston

15:35

and Joe, how

15:38

about this set four years,

15:40

four seasons, Joe Morgan had fifty or

15:42

more extra base hits, fifty stolen

15:44

bases, and a hundred base on balls

15:47

four seasons. Wow. In

15:49

the history of baseball, the history

15:51

of baseball, no one has everybody

15:54

at one season, you

15:58

know. Wow. He

16:02

he was the guy, the guy. And if

16:04

an infielder ever, no infielder is supposed

16:06

to talk to the picture nothing,

16:08

They weren't. They didn't know what to say, didn't know what to do.

16:11

But if Joe Morgan came in from second base to

16:13

talk to the picture, I stayed behind the play.

16:16

Wow, Because I mean he we

16:18

seem to be on the same vibe. I mean

16:20

are we? I think sometimes

16:22

we were just you know, brothers at

16:24

one time in our lives, in spiritual

16:27

and mental. And he

16:29

was he knew the game, man, he understood

16:31

I knew the game. And it

16:34

was the best player I ever saw. I mean, like you

16:36

said, how can he be a gold glove steel

16:38

bases hit home runs? If there were games on

16:40

the line? Take the Red Sox in nineteen

16:43

seventy five, who do you want it to play?

16:45

Joe Morgan? Who got the base hit? Joe Morgan?

16:48

And I,

16:52

as I told his his wife, you know,

16:54

I said, Tracey, I said, you know, we

16:56

are so fortunate to have had him in our lives.

17:00

You know, some people never get experienced the greatness

17:03

and the friendship and the love that people

17:05

can have for each other. So yeah,

17:08

it's been tough, I'm telling you. You know,

17:10

Joe, Tom and all the others. Now,

17:12

Kaylyn was such a dear man. I mean, so

17:15

I appreciate you. I mean, you'd be an

17:17

opportunity to talk about him. Man, he

17:20

was. He was the heart and Zoe and

17:22

I try to tell people, you know, Bob Gibson,

17:26

I was nervous, and I was just watching

17:28

a game when he would be on the mountain. I can't imagine

17:30

what it was like to face Gibson. Al Kaylin

17:32

is one of the true gentlemen in

17:35

life, not in just baseball. I mean

17:38

we'd lost you know, some great great people,

17:40

not just great players. Yeah,

17:43

Luke Brock I came into I

17:45

came into Saint Louis. He had told

17:47

her thirty two stolen bases in a

17:49

road. And we have Jack Fisher pitching. We call

17:51

him fat Jack Fisher because he had a belly and he rested

17:54

his glove on him. He'd rested his glove right here,

17:56

and he was pretty quick on play. Well, louse

17:58

stole took off to steal and I threw it

18:01

down and lou hadn't got to the cutout. He

18:03

hadn't even started sly, he didn't got to the dirt. And

18:06

you know, after the game, I'm sitting in my locker

18:09

and one of those shopping carts pull

18:11

up in front of my locker. Well that's where we put our dirty

18:13

and sweats and everything else. And one

18:15

rule was you never fratenized. It cost us fifty

18:17

dollars if we talked to another player. Dave

18:20

Bristol was just so adamant about you not

18:22

fraternizing. Well, that's cards

18:24

still sitting there, and I look up. It's lou Brock. He's

18:27

in uniform in our

18:29

locker room and I'm next to the manager's

18:31

office. He looked down at me and he said,

18:33

next nime, kid, make it look close, and

18:40

scrolled on out and scrolled on out like it

18:42

was just a normal routine thing. That's great.

18:44

Oh, so the auction Hunt

18:46

auctions dot com all the great stuff

18:49

that Johnny has available for

18:51

everybody, and that'll be November fourteenth.

18:53

November fourteenth at Hunt Auctions

18:56

dot com. Great to see you, and

18:58

yeah, it's gonna be live. And Louis will Kentucky at

19:00

the at the Louisville Slugger Museum

19:03

of where I'm a leging living legend. Of course

19:05

you are. Yeah, just don't die,

19:08

because then you're no longer a living legend. I

19:11

hadn't thought of that, although I am

19:13

standing over here with May's co

19:15

Fax and Aaron as the living legend,

19:17

so it's pretty good. How often

19:19

did you face Cofax? Never?

19:23

He retired in sixty six, And

19:25

if your first year was sixty eight, I

19:28

came up the end of sixty seven, sixty seven

19:30

when I was nineteen. Lucky for you you didn't

19:33

have to face Cofax. Oh, I owned him.

19:35

You would have, right, you

19:38

would have. I'm sure. Thanks, Thank

19:41

you, Bud. That's Johnny

19:43

Bench. Hall of Famer. Yeah,

19:46

I still you know, there's Bob

19:48

Gibson was one of those pictures that

19:51

he took the mound and he

19:54

he owned the mound. I

19:56

never saw him happy. I'll

19:58

bet he had an unbelievable smile. I just

20:01

never saw him smile when he

20:03

put on a baseball uniform. It's

20:05

like Randy Johnson. Randy

20:08

Johnson never smiles never.

20:12

They're just certain guys that they got there

20:14

and they it's almost like when they put on the

20:16

uniform, that's who they were. They were a different person.

20:19

But Bob Gibson was. He

20:22

was awesome. If

20:24

you said I could have a guy and he's going to pitch

20:26

a big game for me, man, you

20:28

want that dude. There's

20:31

a few of them, but Bob Gibson is one of those

20:33

guys. And I remember, you know when they

20:35

faced the Red Sox, they faced

20:37

the Tigers, and the big

20:39

matchup was Jenny McClain and Bob

20:42

Gibson and Mickey Lolich

20:44

ended up being the star pitcher in that series.

20:46

But Bob Gibson was a bad dude

20:49

on the mountain and Joe. I didn't even

20:51

know that stat that Johnny had with Joe. Just

20:53

to give you an I like, I was so spoiled

20:56

when I'm growing up and I had the big red machine,

20:59

and you know, you got Pete and Tony

21:01

Perez, you got Joe in there, got

21:04

Johnny obviously. Yeah,

21:07

I'm MC club. But did they use analytics

21:09

though, I mean, well, they probably should have,

21:11

you know, then they would have won more, apparently, because

21:14

I don't think Joe Morgan would have worked in today's

21:16

baseball game or base today's game.

21:19

Oh run hitting second base? Yeah, but

21:21

he walks and he steals basses. I

21:23

don't walk. Yeah, I don't know. He

21:26

would still be great. Yeah,

21:28

I think all those guys really would have fit the Saber

21:31

metric. When we come back, Bo

21:33

Jackson makes an outlandish claim,

21:36

and I'll have that for you and Matt Ryan. You'll

21:38

hear him tell Todd Gurley,

21:40

do not score a touchdown? Have

21:43

that for you coming up next year on The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks

21:45

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21:47

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22:07

in the COVID pool. The New York

22:09

Giants of quarantine for

22:11

their offensive lineman after one test

22:14

had positive for COVID, Sources

22:16

tell Tom Pelasero of the

22:18

NFL network Ian Rappaport

22:21

reporting chargers at a player test

22:23

positive for COVID. That player

22:25

and all close contacts were told to

22:27

stay home and isolate. Sources say

22:30

team learned with this last night. The

22:32

facility will be open, but all

22:34

meetings will be virtual. Bo

22:36

Jackson was on a podcast,

22:39

the twenty first In Prime

22:41

Podcast with Dion Sanders and Jamie

22:43

Dukes, and Bo had this

22:45

to say about how he would be what

22:47

kind of impact he would have in today's NFL.

22:50

It's like this, I watched technique

22:53

I don't see about a hit and the rap rapping.

22:56

Everybody's running into each other and

22:58

trying to use the show to pass by, but not the

23:00

ball carrier down. And

23:03

I'm like, if I played doing this doing

23:05

this here, man, I man,

23:07

I Poppy average in three hundred and fifty,

23:11

and you would only average.

23:14

You didn't because nobody

23:16

wraps up anymore. They

23:19

run into each other. I

23:22

don't think he would average three hundred and fifty.

23:25

I think he's obviously joking, but

23:28

he averaged I think his average per carry

23:31

is the highest in NFL history, five point four

23:33

yards per carry. But he only averaged

23:35

thirteen carries per game. But

23:37

I think Bow is exaggerating to make

23:39

a point about the bad, you know,

23:42

bad tackling, bad technique that goes

23:44

on in the NFL because nobody wraps anybody up.

23:46

You try to just throw your body into somebody.

23:49

And you wouldn't be able to do that with Bo Jackson.

23:52

But I'm gonna guess Bow, if

23:54

you know, we look at you know

23:56

what the Titans do with Derren Henry,

23:59

imagine that's size. But then

24:01

I've got legitimate track speed

24:03

with Bo Jackson, and

24:06

all you know, I'm just hitting home

24:08

runs. That's what I would be doing

24:10

with Bo. Bo would hit home runs on

24:13

the football field. Put

24:15

him out in space, and

24:18

he did have some unbelievable highlights

24:20

For the number of carries that he had.

24:23

He made a lasting impression in

24:25

the NFL. He just didn't have

24:27

longevity in either sport. He had great

24:29

moments in baseball, great highlights,

24:32

strength, athleticism

24:34

on the basis in the outfield, and

24:36

then on the football field. He just

24:39

had that extra gear speed

24:42

that you don't see very often with a running

24:44

back. There have been you know, Chris Johnson

24:46

had that extra gear. There's certain guys where you

24:48

go, they get to a top

24:50

end speed and then they have a little bit

24:52

more, and Bo had that takeoff ability.

24:55

Yeah, Paul, I would love to know

24:57

if he would have gone all football Tampa didn't draft

24:59

him, would he have gone right from Auburn to

25:02

the NFL if a different team

25:04

took him and none of the baseball stuff would have happened,

25:06

because it seems possible. Yeah,

25:11

But I don't know if he loved football.

25:13

Sometimes you'll find guys who were good at

25:15

the sport. They don't love it, they're just

25:17

good at it. And I don't know if Bo loved

25:20

football. I always felt like he loved

25:22

baseball more than he loved football

25:24

and didn't Frank Thomas. Was Frank

25:26

on the baseball team when Bo was there on

25:29

the football team? Was Barkley

25:31

there as well? Did they have Frank

25:33

bow and Barkley there at the same

25:35

time. Yeah, they did a little thirty for thirty on it like

25:37

a smaller short of thirty for thirty three

25:40

guys being there. Wow. Yeah,

25:43

Paulie, have a game for you, Dan exciting.

25:45

It's called a who averaged the most carries

25:47

in NFL history game? Okay, Harry's

25:50

per game. This is minimum

25:53

one hundred games played, So it's going to be a name,

25:55

you know, someone who played a long time, long

25:57

time, who averaged the most

25:59

carry per game in NFL history.

26:02

And to give you a hint, the answer is twenty

26:04

point nine. And there's

26:06

a whole bunch of guys right there with him.

26:09

Okay, another hint. It

26:11

might not be the first name you pick as

26:14

far as like Luminaries West

26:16

go first, uh mc love

26:18

and you want to go first, smaller

26:22

name like that Wilder guy in Tampa Bay, James

26:24

Wilder. Yeah, James Wilder didn't

26:26

play enough games to qualify. He

26:28

didn't. And if he well, because

26:30

he carried the ball so much for Tampa

26:33

he basically had one season with four hundred carries

26:35

and then never did anything again. Okay, which

26:37

makes sense. So when you think about it, for Chee,

26:39

do you want to take a guess was their first

26:41

name? That pop? Tony Dorset is not in

26:44

the top ten? All right, Seaton Connor

26:46

Were there parameters about when this person

26:49

played? No? But I could definitely tell you every

26:52

one of the guys is nineteen except

26:54

for Jim Brown. Every one of the guys on

26:56

the list is nineteen seventy or newer. Okay,

26:59

minimum hundred games played one. I don't say

27:01

Emmett em

27:04

It's a good guest. Emmet's Smith is ninth

27:07

all time in carries per game nineteen

27:09

point five carries per game, but he has the most

27:11

carries in NFL history a longevity.

27:14

Good guess it's

27:16

John Riggins on that list. He is not. I

27:21

can tell you who it is. Not. My favorite

27:23

player, Walter Peyton didn't make

27:25

it. He is half a carry behind.

27:28

He is a fifth place all time in

27:30

carry's pregame over rate. It's

27:35

also got five hundred receptions. Throw that in there. You

27:38

can say something about Pauli's wife or kids, but

27:40

don't say anything about Walter Payton. It gets

27:42

me hot, and my head gets hot. People

27:44

say it. I know he's joking. It gets a hot.

27:48

I don't think Barry Sanders had that many carries

27:51

per game. Sixth all time in carries

27:53

per game. Wow, okay,

27:56

I'll tell you some guys. That is not fourth

27:59

all time carries per game Eddie George

28:03

third all time, Edrin James second

28:07

all time? Is Eric Dickerson first

28:10

all time and carries per game in NFL history

28:12

at twenty point nine. Curtis

28:14

Martin of your New York Jets. Damn it, that's the first

28:17

guy I was gonna guess you kind of yeah,

28:19

I could sell it on your face. Did

28:22

you get here? Actually before you set you went no,

28:26

no, I said, curses if you dropped

28:28

it down to only needing fifty games

28:30

played. Fritzie, can you guess who the all

28:32

time leader is? Arrell

28:35

Davis? Not Tony Dorset, Fritzie, it's

28:38

Terrell Davis. He's asking you. I

28:42

thought it was being cute because I guess Dorset and

28:44

I was totally wrong. Then somehow maybe was Dorset

28:46

for that? That was t ball Terrell

28:49

Davis. Thank you, Todd nah Man, My high

28:51

salute Matt Ryan

28:54

tells Todd Gurley not to score against

28:57

the Detroit Lions. This is courtesy

28:59

of Inside the NFL, because we wondered didd

29:02

Todd Gurley know was he told, don't

29:04

score a touchdown? Whatever you do, we want

29:06

to run the clock all the way down, kick a field

29:09

goal. We're gonna go up seventeen to sixteen.

29:11

There's no time left for Matthew Stafford and the Lions.

29:14

The only way they can possibly win this game

29:16

is if you score a touchdown? Is this we

29:19

talk about game winning touchdowns? How

29:21

many game losing touchdowns have been

29:23

scored in NFL history? Can

29:28

like Penn State scored a game losing touchdown

29:31

against Indiana last week? We had

29:33

two this weekend. I

29:35

mean that Penn Sate in Atlanta. Yeah. Here

29:37

is Matt Ryan in the huddle telling Todd

29:40

Gurley, whatever you do, don't

29:42

score, Hey, don't score.

29:45

Yeah, I wouldn't score. Don't score the

29:47

first, get the first get down. Lease

29:51

give us to Jourley Surley through

29:53

the middle. They're gonna let him score anyway.

29:56

That's a big mistake by Todd Gurley.

29:59

Lions are gonna get it back. What a

30:01

mental mistake by Todd Gurley.

30:04

He says, get the first, but

30:07

I thought it was first in ten or

30:10

first in goal? Is that right?

30:12

That's what the graphics says first in

30:14

goal. It's possible the graphic is wrong, but yes,

30:17

Ton, maybe he feels like, you'll play like it's

30:19

no score, just you know, do your thing, no

30:21

score. If you play it again, you can hear girl. He say

30:23

like, yeah, no, no, I'll go down. Yeah, hey,

30:27

don't score. Yeah, I would score. Don't

30:29

score the first, get the first,

30:31

get down, all right? Yes,

30:33

boy, it's a mental thing. He thought he was gonna get

30:36

Nobody try to tackle him and walk in the endzone, which the

30:38

defense try to do. The one linebacker decides

30:40

to wrap him up, and I think he was surprised

30:42

and he went back into running back mode, threw

30:45

the guy off and just kind of just no, I

30:47

can't accept it. It's a mental thing. No,

30:49

you he had a mental breakdown there, is

30:52

that correct? Because they were

30:54

trying to tackle him that he was. You

30:56

don't have to score. You don't care if they're trying

30:59

to tack. If they tack, well you it doesn't matter. Nature

31:01

though, when you break a tackle to get to the end zone

31:03

and he lost. Wait he went from twenty

31:06

seconds earlier and then

31:08

all of a sudden, he can't process that when

31:10

he gets the ball. Yes, I think I agree.

31:12

I think it's some kind of instinct popt in

31:15

and like and you just you just forget. Your

31:17

brain stops and your body does what I want.

31:19

I can't accept that. I can't

31:21

accept that. Twenty seconds

31:23

earlier, his quarterback says, whatever you do, don't

31:25

score. But then they chose to ignore it. But

31:28

I don't. I don't know what he was doing because

31:31

if it's first and ten, all

31:33

they do is take a knee,

31:36

get in the middle of the field wherever their placekicker

31:38

needs them to be, and that's it. It was first

31:41

in goal at the Detroit ten confirmed. There is no

31:43

that. It's even crazier Matt

31:46

Ryan. What is he doing saying get the first? So

31:50

I'm gonna put this on Matt Ryan to just take

31:52

a knee. Yes,

31:55

get the first, get the first overall pick Trevor

31:57

Lawrence. Now it is okay,

32:00

that makes sense, Thank you

32:02

mclovin. So lose the game, yes, that

32:04

means get in the end zone. Yeah. And then and they

32:07

were probably almost upset with Gurly

32:09

that he almost didn't get in the end zone. Yes,

32:12

if you're at the plate, then you initially agree with the

32:14

coacher manager to take a strike or take a pitch,

32:16

and your favorite pitch comes nice down

32:19

the middle, and you know you can just crush

32:21

it. It would be very hard to just watch that ball

32:23

go by. That would be the analogy I would make to just the

32:25

instinct of like the end zones right there. I've

32:27

done this a million times. I have to go towards the end

32:29

zone, even though I was just told and reminded

32:32

not to do that. Back

32:34

to you in the studio, Thank you, Todd. That

32:37

makes no sense, no sense because you're

32:39

not in jeopardy of losing the

32:42

game. Yeah, but in the

32:44

moment of like, that's what you think you're supposed to do, and

32:46

you just forget everything. Your body is, no, this

32:49

is gonna cost you the game. You

32:51

can lose the game. There's a chance you could

32:53

lose the game if you score the touchdown. If

32:55

you say, hey, I'm not supposed to swing it's three zero,

32:58

Hey I'm gonna swing. That's my favorite pitch. You're

33:01

not in jeopardy of losing the game because you just

33:03

hit a home run. I think it's some kind of muscle memory

33:05

thing. All

33:08

right, Jeremy

33:10

and Texas. Hey, Jeremy, what's on your mind? How's

33:12

it going, guys? Hey, So, if you're the Dallas

33:15

Cowboys, Dak Prescott's out

33:17

pretty much for the season, your record

33:19

in the case, so you're not going anywhere. You have injuries

33:21

on the offensive defensive line. Would you trade

33:24

Dak away for maybe first round

33:26

first round to second round pick. Save that money

33:28

because he's on a franchise tag right

33:31

now, he start off the season. Great,

33:33

trade him off, get your first round pick, tank

33:35

for Trevor. I don't think you can trade an injured

33:38

player because the Eagles

33:40

we're gonna trade zach Ertz, and Ertz is

33:42

hurt, and the Packers were interested

33:44

in him and a couple of other teams, So don't I don't think

33:46

you can trade a injured player. Yeah,

33:49

MC club, I don't know if you can trade it. I mean maybe

33:51

you can't. A franchise tag guy like that. Can't

33:53

that team just sign him as a free agent next year? Why

33:55

would they trade for him now? Try

33:58

to sign him? Yeah? No, the

34:00

Cowboys aren't gonna do that. Does

34:03

it also feel like Dak has made a case, Hey, you

34:05

want to bring me back next year too? Isn't there a little

34:08

of that? Do you want to go back?

34:11

That's a different question. Yeah, Like you

34:14

know, at some point it's great to be the quarterback

34:17

for the Cowboys. But it's certainly, you

34:20

know, great to be the quarterback when the team is good and

34:23

there's no guarantee, like you would think that

34:25

they would be better next year. They can't

34:28

be much worse than next year or this year,

34:30

and you have the offensive line. It's just

34:33

I'm not an Amari Cooper fan. I'm not a Zeke

34:35

Elliot fan. And these defensive

34:38

players who got paid certainly feel

34:40

like they're overrated. That offensive

34:42

line is not overrated. Dak

34:45

to me, is not overrated. But I've

34:48

got some people on that team that I think are

34:50

vastly overrated because they play for the Cowboys.

34:53

Yampling back to Todd Gurley. Real

34:55

quick Gurley his contract. He

34:57

receives five hundred thousand dollars bonus

35:00

if he reaches thirteen touchdowns, just

35:03

saying he has a one

35:05

year contract, two million dollars signing bonus three

35:07

through how many touchdowns do you have this year? Checking?

35:11

All right, we'll take a break. Last call for phone

35:13

calls, what we learned, what's in store tomorrow, All

35:16

of that coming up next year on The Dan Patrick Show

35:18

with Todd Fritz. Thanks

35:20

for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.

35:23

Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning

35:25

nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific

35:27

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35:29

us on the iHeartRadio app at

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35:34

on the Peacock app. Guess

35:36

which running back is leading the league in touchdowns.

35:40

He also has a five hundred thousand dollars

35:42

bonus if he gets at least thirteen touchdowns

35:45

this year. It's Atlanta's Todd

35:47

Gurley. Whatever

35:50

you do, don't score touchdown, all right, all right, all

35:52

right? And then all of a sudden he gets the

35:54

ball and he scores a touchdown. I

35:57

thought he stayed out of the end zone like

36:00

that was one of those if that was if

36:03

you're trying to score, and

36:05

then they would have done review. I wonder

36:07

if they would have because that's reviewable.

36:10

I was wondering if somebody was fighting to get a

36:12

touchdown, would they have given them the touchdown?

36:14

Yeah, Paul, which was more of a touchdown Todd Gurley

36:17

or Pennox the quarterback of Indiana versus penn

36:19

State his two point conversion. Yeah, uh

36:22

Todd Gurley, Yes, Todd Gurley.

36:25

Coming up on Friday's show Popular

36:27

Michael Wilbon. Pardon the interruption.

36:29

They just celebrated their nineteenth

36:32

anniversary of Pardon the interruption. Also,

36:35

the guy who's jacked Chris Fowler will

36:37

join us coming on already. Won't take a shirt off,

36:39

he will he will not

36:42

do that McLevin. Final results

36:44

of the poll question, should the Texans

36:47

trade jj Watt for a first round pick? A

36:50

seventy eight percent say no, Yeah,

36:53

I would. I would consider

36:55

it. I don't. I don't want to ship him out. To ship

36:57

him out, I'd like to get something there.

37:00

If I said that a

37:03

second round pick for jj Watt,

37:06

would you still trade him? And I would,

37:09

because you're not going anywhere unless

37:11

you want to just you know, take a trip down

37:13

memory lane and keep opening your scrapbook and say,

37:15

hey, we're not any good, but man, JJ Watt

37:18

used to be great. He won three Defensive Players

37:20

of the Year awards. Uh.

37:22

This day in sports history, Polly a little pot. They

37:25

don't have a lot of positive ones. For OJ Simpson. Here's one

37:27

nineteen seventy three. He ran for one hundred

37:29

and fifty seven yards, put him over a thousand yards

37:31

at the only the seventh game of that season.

37:33

They played fourteen game seasons back then, and

37:37

the Jerry Rice in the same forty nine

37:40

ers became the career leader in receiving yards with fourteen

37:42

thousand and forty Yes, Todd, we have seen

37:44

through his OJ him pressuring with tw Hello

37:47

Twitter World, it's

37:49

me yo pot. I

37:52

like how he comments on everything. Jeffrey

37:54

Tubin, what were you thinking? If

37:58

O. J. Simpsons making fun of something you're doing,

38:01

you're really doing something wrong. Yes,

38:03

don't forget to turn off the video. We've

38:11

had some embarrassing moments on this show, but

38:13

we've never done anything like that, although

38:16

I shouldn't jinx us like

38:19

we've had partial nudity on this show. When

38:22

you guys were doing the show from home, Yeah,

38:26

I think everything was good there. The only

38:28

time was when your wife was crawling on the floor

38:30

behind you. Mclovin the military crawl. There's

38:33

a time and a place. Hello

38:36

Twitter World, can't

38:39

you wait a minute? Yes,

38:41

we did a shoot during Super Bowl week

38:43

in Indianapolis, who we went to like a salon and

38:46

got a spot treatment, and Fritzie

38:48

came out with a bathrobe on, and we all had bathrobes

38:50

on, but we were supposed to be covered underneath

38:52

the bathrobes and we're gonna put our feet up to get

38:54

like pedicures. And no one knew

38:57

if Fritzie was going to come out what he was gonna

38:59

come out wearing, if anything much less a bathroom.

39:01

We were pretty concerned. There's gonna be nunity. Did

39:04

you have anything under that bathroom? There

39:08

was a lot of skin that no one needed to see

39:10

under that bathroom. By the way, I just checked

39:12

with Alan on what the menu is

39:15

the Halloween table for tomorrow ribs

39:18

pulled pork, Italian

39:21

sausage, little Smokey's,

39:24

bacon wrapped mummy head, meat

39:27

loaf, all of that on the trigger

39:30

tomorrow heat for Halloween.

39:32

I get, Yeah, I don't know what's

39:34

a little smokey? A little little smokey.

39:37

Yeah, see, I'm gonna guess that's

39:39

something for Todd and those little wheenies. Yeah,

39:41

I think it's a little weenie. We just call him

39:43

Todd's. Yeah, what, No,

39:46

you know, that's like a little hot dog that that wrapped

39:48

in like pigs and blanks in bank bank

39:51

about food, right, Yes, a

39:54

little smokey that's your nickname?

39:56

Great, Hey,

39:58

a little smoky, I'm already married. That wouldn't

40:01

get me too fun. A little sunky, all

40:03

right. So that's the guest list tomorrow.

40:06

I think we cleaned up all of our business here, mclovin,

40:12

Are you worried Julio Jones might go off tonight,

40:14

sort of saying I don't know. I wouldn't

40:17

trade for him. He's old, he's thirty one.

40:19

Yeah, he's had a couple of good games lately. So

40:22

I tweeted out a stat that Ethan gave me.

40:24

There hasn't been an All Pro wide receiver to

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win a Super Bowl since two thousand and six with Marvin

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Harrison, and before that was Jerry Rice. The All

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Pro receiver never wins a Super Bowl, and

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people got bad at that. Well,

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it's just a fact. I mean, you're just pointing out what

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has actually happened. I would

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still if I'm Green Bay and I could get Julio

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Jones if I can add everybody's

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adding weapons. It feels like on

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offense because it just feels like you

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know, if you have a good defense. How

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many teams are like Pittsburgh, how many teams lead

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with their defense? When I think of Pittsburgh, I

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think of their defense first. Could you say the Ravens

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too in that same well, it's hard

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to have the raining, you know, or you know, the ragining

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MVP on offense and

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you can't stop the Chiefs. By the way, it's yes, it's

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it's about getting weapons

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on offense. I mean the Ravens we're thinking about trading

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for who were

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they thinking they wanted um Antonio Brown?

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Yeah, and then they just brought in Dez Bryant.

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So you're everybody's trying to get weapons

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on offense. You can't have enough. But I don't

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understand guys like Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers or Setti

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records this year and they both want to they need

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to add wide receivers. You're right, they do, but it

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feels like they're good enough already. Todd,

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would you learn today if Lebron doesn't want to come

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down your chimney and play on Christmas, guess what the NBA

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won't be playing. Probably not mclovin.

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Our buddy Chris Marris save lots of material for

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Bob Schmidt, who cuts the open today. Seton

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O'Connor Johnny Bench same month,

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same day, I was a sneaky shot

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at you JN Bench. Yeah, with Larry

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