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Coming up a little bit later on, There'll

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be a whole lot more for us than you. Let's

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put it that way, all right. Klay

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Thompson's achilles injury. You know, we talked

1:17

about this yesterday when we started the show. I

1:19

didn't care about the draft. I you

1:21

know, I just kept thinking about Klay Thompson and I

1:24

was really looking forward to seeing what this

1:26

team could do. The fact that you would

1:28

have Steph Clay,

1:30

you'd have Draymond, James, Wiseman

1:32

in there, Wiggins in there as well,

1:35

the mastery of Steve Kerr.

1:38

You know, the West is great. It'll be a lot of

1:40

fun, competitive, But I just look

1:42

forward to see in that style of basketball,

1:45

and we're not going to see it, at

1:47

least not in its original art

1:49

form. There. It's a blow to NBA fans

1:51

who wanted to see what the Warriors would look like

1:53

this year and last year was a washout

1:55

because the injuries and the last time we saw the real

1:58

Warriors. You have to go back to the finals

2:00

against Toronto. That team featured

2:02

Steph and Kevin Duran and Clay, and

2:06

I thought it was going to be really interesting to see

2:08

them go back to the duo instead of the triumvirate.

2:11

And remember Golden State won a title

2:13

and set the single season win record

2:15

before KD got there, and

2:17

they seem to be making the kind of moves

2:20

that would help Curry and Thompson get back to that

2:22

level. Hopefully Clay will fully

2:24

recover underrated superstar,

2:27

and that's based off a low key personality,

2:29

great two way player, one of the great

2:31

shooters of all time, and the Warriors will

2:34

certainly miss him this year. They're

2:36

not tanking this year. Too much talent

2:38

to tank. You can't have a healthy Steph Curry

2:40

and say hey, we're going to tank this year. I know that

2:42

people brought that up yesterday. I don't

2:44

see that happening. James Wiseman

2:46

will contribute, Draymond Green is still a good

2:48

player. You know. They'll be competitive,

2:51

but they're not going to be one of the teams to beat

2:53

in the West this year. And I

2:55

started to canvas the West here. I

2:57

don't know what's happening with the Rockets. You know, the Ers,

3:01

they hopefully have learned from what happened in

3:03

the bubble. The Lakers are going to be

3:05

the team to beat Portland healthy.

3:08

A Portland team that's healthy will

3:10

be dangerous. Phoenix is going to be dangerous.

3:12

I think you might have more teams that are dangerous

3:15

in the West than teams that can win the

3:17

West. Denver to me will border

3:19

on being the team to beat in the West. But

3:21

they're going to be a dangerous team again. But

3:24

you have to look at that regular season and just

3:26

attrition where you're just trying to keep pace

3:29

and what is your seating going to be when you get

3:31

to the playoffs, And then you start to look at the East.

3:33

I mean, the East is going to be really competitive

3:36

as well. We have Miami. We know what

3:38

Miami is. I don't know if they make any moves.

3:40

Free agency starts today. Boston

3:42

Celtics are going to lose Gordon Hayward.

3:45

And when I saw the headline, Gordon Hayward opts

3:47

out of thirty four million dollars with

3:50

the Celtics, and I thought, Okay,

3:53

he must know something because

3:55

thirty four million dollars Gordon

3:58

Hayward. I was really surprised

4:00

at that because and you

4:03

know, maybe he's going to the Hawks, maybe he's going to the Knicks.

4:05

Maybe he wants to sort of re establish himself

4:08

as the best player on his team.

4:10

Now that's not going to happen with the Hawks. It

4:12

might happen with the Knicks, but you're making

4:15

thirty four million dollars and

4:17

you decided, Okay, I don't want thirty

4:19

four million. I think

4:21

he's got something that's going to be a little bit

4:23

more longer term, maybe not as

4:25

much money up front. You know, he's seventeen

4:27

points a game, came back from the devastating

4:30

injury, and he's a good player. He's

4:32

not a great player. He's a good player. He's not

4:35

a franchise player. And he

4:37

must know the

4:40

Knicks are willing to give him a four

4:42

or five year deal for X number

4:44

of dollars. Maybe Boston wasn't

4:46

going to be willing to give that to him. And he

4:48

started to look at and look around and go, you

4:51

know what they're building around Kemba and Jaylen

4:53

Brown and of course Jason Tatum, and

4:56

maybe I don't fit into the picture here. Celtics

4:58

have always talked about trade. They always

5:01

talk about trades. They don't always pull off

5:03

a trade. And I saw a report

5:05

where the Celtics were saying

5:07

that they looked at James Harden,

5:10

but then they were scared off by a Western

5:12

Conference source. That's

5:15

not the best move for the Celtics. So there's

5:17

some bad

5:20

feelings about bringing in somebody like James

5:22

Harden. James Harden with the Celtics,

5:25

I don't get it. But what's

5:27

going on with the seventy six ers. I love

5:29

what they did with their roster. I don't know if they're preparing

5:31

their roster to make a

5:33

trade. The

5:36

feeling I got was you're going to

5:38

be able to bring in some pieces and

5:40

then you're going to be able to make a move, or

5:42

they're bringing in these pieces to make a move. I'm

5:44

not quite sure. But what Daryl Morey has

5:47

already done. He earned Executive of the Year

5:50

with getting rid of contracts, bringing

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in some shooters here, brought in

5:54

Doc Rivers as well. So Philadelphia

5:57

is gonna write it right now with Ben Simmons

5:59

and Joel and Bed Toronto. If

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they resigned Fred VanVleet, they're

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gonna be there as well. So you're gonna

6:06

have some teams obviously with Milwaukee.

6:09

Is Milwaukee gonna do anything more? They lost

6:11

Bogdanovich. Are they gonna

6:13

try to supplement that with somebody else?

6:15

There's a whole lot of movement going

6:18

on with the NBA, and it's great to see.

6:20

It's fun. All right, moll mclub And

6:22

you got a pull question for me today. Do

6:24

you think Steph Curry will ever win another

6:27

NBA title? Are they going to be able

6:29

to put this together? Oh?

6:39

I'd have to know how Clay Thompson is after

6:41

Achilles, because it's one thing to come back from

6:43

knee surgery Achilles. That's tricky. And

6:46

he's going to be moving. He's

6:48

going to be moving in six months where

6:51

he's able to, you know, do something

6:53

with that, just to get back into some

6:55

kind of basketball mode there. He's

6:58

going to be out for two years and

7:00

then to try to come back. And

7:04

I was wondering about this. Clay Thompson

7:06

averaged twenty points in each of his last

7:08

five seasons. Can he get back to

7:10

just that? Only one player since

7:13

nineteen seventy six average twenty points

7:15

after missing two seasons

7:17

in a row. That was Michael Jordan.

7:20

But Jordan was coming out of retirement. He was not coming

7:22

back from an injury. Clay's coming back

7:24

from an injury. I thought Bernard King

7:27

may have missed a year and a half or so and

7:29

then came back in average like twenty five a game,

7:31

but Clay to come back in average

7:34

twenty and coming back from Achilles

7:36

and missing two years, I

7:39

would say Steph Curry is probably not going to win

7:41

another championship because Draymond

7:43

Greene. His value is

7:45

going to be quickly evaporating here

7:48

in the next two years. I don't know how

7:50

great James Wiseman's going to be. I don't know if

7:52

Wiggins is there for the long haul, but

7:54

I would say odds are right

7:56

now probably not. Yeah, Paul Dan, You're absolutely

7:58

right about Bernard King. In the eighty five season

8:01

with the Knicks, Bernard King, for those who don't remember him,

8:03

he evers thirty three points a game, leading the

8:05

NBA. Then they drafted

8:07

Patrick Ewing. You know after the next

8:09

season when Bernard King got hurt the eighty five

8:11

eighty six season, he didn't play at all for the knee

8:13

injury. He played four games

8:16

due to the the knee injury the following season, so he missed two

8:18

years of NBA basketball and they got

8:20

Patrick Ewing during his injury. He went on

8:22

an average when he came back seventeen twenty one,

8:24

twenty two, and then twenty eight points

8:26

per game. That's a guy

8:28

who came back from injury to kind of reclaim himself.

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9:42

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9:44

should trade Steph to the Lakers

9:46

right now? Imagine or something

9:49

like that happened? Sort of? Would he ever title

9:51

Chase Enjoy a Lebron or anything like? Wait? Wait,

9:53

I think he was being maybe a little bit of joking,

9:56

but he put up a picture of Steph Lebron

9:58

in a d Wait. But why

10:00

why do we say these things when we don't

10:03

think about the team that's trading somebody

10:05

to the Lakers? Well, the Warriors would

10:07

be rebuilding. Would be the theory that they'd have to get

10:09

a bunch of assets and now it's time to rebuild.

10:14

Okay, I don't think the Lakers is the best

10:16

target for that, but at some point do the Warriors tear

10:18

it down and start over. I can't

10:20

imagine those Golden State fans who

10:22

spent that money and the owners

10:25

who spent that money on that arena, and

10:27

you show up and you go, hey,

10:30

come on out, we're gonna watch Draymond Green

10:32

and James Wiseman. Don't forget Kelly Ubre

10:34

Jr. Oh yeah, that's right. They got Kelly Oubrey

10:37

in the juniors. I

10:39

guess he's serviceable for that team. He's

10:42

one of those guys that strikes me as a seventeen point

10:44

guy on a bad team, and

10:47

maybe he's a guy who'll be able to contribute to

10:49

them. But a little

10:51

bit expectations should be tempered a little

10:53

bit with Kelly Oubre junior with

10:56

Golden State. Are you tempted at all

10:58

to still pick Golden State as a contender or

11:00

it's just impossible. I don't know.

11:02

This is also the aspect of the mental

11:04

part of this, that you just lost Clay Thompson,

11:07

and you've got to factor that in as well, that

11:10

this is just start the season and

11:12

you go without him.

11:15

I think they'll be dangerous,

11:18

how about that. I think they'll be one of those they

11:20

might be a tough out in the first round

11:22

kind of thing. Maybe, But I don't. I just

11:25

I think it's pretty devastating. Lady's

11:27

devastating that Steph was going to have

11:29

Clay Thompson. They were comfortable together.

11:32

They learned to get you know, to

11:34

incorporate Kevin Durant, but Draymond,

11:37

Clay and Steph. I still I was

11:39

surprised that people were sort of dismissing

11:42

them as one of the favorites. And I went, now,

11:45

this is before Clay got hurt, because

11:47

you're gonna have James Wiseman as well. Wiggins

11:50

is a serviceable player as well. You're gonna have a

11:52

little bit of depth there. But man,

11:55

pretty tough, Pretty tough. And you've

11:57

had the most consecutive seasons averaging

12:01

three or more threes per game and shooting forty

12:03

five percent all times. Steph has done at seven

12:06

consecutive years. Clay has done at five

12:08

consecutive years. No other player

12:10

in NBA history has had two

12:13

consecutive years of at least

12:15

three threes made in a game

12:17

and shooting forty five percent from the floor.

12:19

You're really losing your

12:22

style of play, and I don't know

12:24

how you recreate that style of play. That's

12:27

the big loss for me with Golden State is

12:29

who are they now? With Clay and Steph,

12:31

I knew who they were. Now I'm

12:34

not quite sure and they won't know either. I'm

12:36

gonna guess what else do you have? Mclvin? Okay,

12:38

NFL? What are we talking about Monday

12:40

Morning? And here's an exercise.

12:43

If the Vegas odds proved to be true

12:45

and the favorite win, which

12:47

game are we talking about? First? Monday Morning? Browns

12:49

beat the Eagles to improve to seven and three,

12:51

Saints win with Jamis, Patriots

12:54

beat the Texans to improve to five and five,

12:57

The Vikings beat the Cowboys to improve

12:59

to five and five. Chiefs

13:01

beat the Raiders. Is that even a thing? Or? And

13:04

also the Dolphins could win their fourth in a row?

13:06

No, if the Raiders beat the Chiefs, right,

13:08

I'm only going with the favorites. Oh oh, no, upsets,

13:11

Like, who's the team that is vocal

13:13

point of Monday? Is it the Patriots? Maybe? I'm

13:15

gonna guess it'll be the Browns because

13:17

all these shows love to go with the Browns

13:19

and the Eagles. So you have this a

13:21

perfect combo platter. Hey, we can talk

13:24

about Carson Wentz not being any good and

13:26

we can talk about the Browns. Are they legitimate

13:28

contenders? Absolutely? Over

13:30

Jamis though that actually could be a too or

13:33

it depends on how well he plays. But

13:35

we don't even know if Jamis is starting. I

13:38

haven't seen any official designation. I

13:40

haven't either. Is it really up in the air? It

13:44

was yesterday. I don't

13:46

know why. There's a great mystery there, But I

13:49

don't know if Jamis is strong

13:51

enough to be the headline of the NFL.

13:54

You know, you can't go wrong with Baker Mayfield

13:56

and Carson Wentz. These shows love

13:59

that topic, both of those topics. They

14:01

like Cam Newton two, Cam improving the five

14:03

and five and the Patriots. Yeah,

14:08

I mean you're beating the Texans, right? Is that who

14:10

they're playing? That doesn't count tah

14:12

the TA train. I

14:16

don't know, probably not. I'd

14:20

say the Browns and the Eagles. What else

14:22

do you have? Okay, the Seahawks improved

14:24

the seven to three, take the lead in the NFC West. Who's

14:26

winning that division? The Seahawks

14:29

at seven and three, the Rams at six and three, or

14:31

the Cardinals at six and four. The

14:34

only reason I would say the

14:36

Rams because they have Jalen

14:38

Ramsey and Aaron Donald had been on fire. Is there

14:40

any chance the Rams are the best team

14:43

out of that division. You know,

14:45

we got Ross Tucker coming up. I'll

14:47

ask him about that if we handicapped this. At

14:49

least I saw the sort

14:51

of the remnants of what Seattle used

14:53

to be where they ran the football and they played pretty good

14:55

defense. Because the defense just

14:58

wasn't bad last night. They were less bad

15:00

last night. Carlos Dunlop, who they got

15:02

from the Bengals, came over, had the big sack

15:04

at the end of the game, but it wasn't

15:06

one of those. Boy, the Seahawks won comfortably.

15:09

Cardinals are dangerous, man, They're

15:12

gonna be it feels like in every game here and

15:16

the Rams. The Rams. It comes

15:18

down to Jared Golf. If Jariff Jared

15:20

Golf plays at a high level,

15:22

then I think the Rams of the team

15:24

to beat in that division because they got defense

15:27

there, they run the football, you got some

15:29

weapons, but it comes down to how

15:31

consistent your quarterback is. And you

15:33

saw with the Seahawks last night. I

15:36

think Russell Wilson got caught up in the MVP

15:38

hype. I think he was all aboard

15:40

the MVP hype train. And if

15:42

you looked at the first six weeks, maybe

15:45

eight weeks it was kind of easy

15:47

for him, and now all of a sudden,

15:49

those defenses were waiting for him.

15:51

He was throwing red zone interceptions.

15:53

He doesn't throw interceptions. He was throwing red zone

15:55

interceptions. And Seattle might get

15:58

back to running the football and

16:00

maybe if you can put some pressure on the quarterback,

16:03

maybe Seattle is going to be able

16:05

to put up a decent defense here. But

16:08

it was fun. Last night wasn't a great game.

16:11

Kyler looked good, not great. Got banged

16:13

up a little bit there, but I wasn't surprised

16:15

with the outcome. Yeah, Polly, I don't know if you heard, but

16:17

the Seahawks had this new wide receiver named

16:20

dk Metcal. Oh I didn't see him

16:22

featured. It did not really pay attention to him

16:24

much last night. Yeah, I didn't see that. It

16:26

was like every four or five minutes, no

16:28

matter what was happening, and there's d came out

16:31

Metcalf. Sudenly, Hey, we haven't checked

16:33

in with dk Metcal. He's got an extra abb He

16:36

didn't do anything. He got a touchdown, he didn't

16:38

do anything. That's because they robbed him.

16:40

He's on my fantasy team and I was I went

16:42

on a Twitter ranton, Yeah, oh, with the penalty

16:45

when he had Does anyone know what holding is? Cauld

16:47

I just say that. Announcers every time,

16:49

they're like, it's a holding. The Troy Akman's like, wow, I didn't

16:51

see much there. Every time, fifty times

16:53

a game, I've kind

16:55

of given up on trying to figure out holding, and

16:59

I've I've given up on I'm allowed

17:01

to put one arm around you as a defension

17:04

back that if I'm if

17:06

I'm covering you, I can put my left

17:09

arm around you as if I'm ready

17:11

to go square dancing with you, and

17:13

then I can put my right arm out there to try to

17:15

deflect the ball away. I

17:18

guess you're allowed to do it. I don't understand

17:20

it. That seems like that would be holding

17:23

because I'm holding onto you. Yes,

17:25

I've got a beef as long as we're airing some grievances, if

17:27

you don't mind. I'm a Tyler Lockett guy. I loved

17:29

him since he's in college's. He went from

17:31

a great return man to a great NFL

17:34

wide receiver and now he's getting

17:36

passed by in coverage by DK Metcalf.

17:38

The best rode receiver on their team is Lockett production

17:40

wise, he's gonna he's gonna have a hundred. He's

17:42

not paced for one hundred and ten catches, twelve

17:44

hundred yards and thirteen touchdown Last last

17:47

night he got targeted nine times in nine

17:49

catches. Yeah, nine times. But he might

17:51

benefit from DK Metcalf. No,

17:53

he's getting Buddha bakered by DK

17:56

Metcalf. Well, he might have

17:58

all these receptions or or because

18:00

of DK Metcalf. It's DK Metcalf's

18:02

going to get more attention. What would you rather have the attention

18:05

or the numbers? Well,

18:08

he had them. He's getting the numbers. Well, even

18:10

when DK wasn't there, he wasn't getting that much

18:12

attention. He's a wonderful player,

18:15

but he is sucking up all

18:18

the coverage and Tyler Lockett is fantastic.

18:20

Yeah, to be fair, though, Tyler Lockett

18:22

has had what six years, seven

18:24

years to become an elite. It's

18:27

nice that he finally is, but he's

18:29

had more than enough time to figure it out,

18:32

you know, not to me. First guy, DK

18:34

Metcalf is a phenomenon, Like

18:37

he's a freak out there. There's something about him.

18:39

There's there's a lot of Tyler Lockett's out

18:41

there. As far as the physicality, he's very

18:44

talented and I loved

18:46

him m Kansas State as a kick returner. I

18:48

came in on a Monday and told you you were

18:51

how great this guy was. He've always

18:53

been a Tyler Locket. Well, I'll back out. I came

18:55

in, I go, this guy's incredible. Yes,

18:57

Seaton. ESPN did a cover story

19:00

on DK Metcalf and

19:03

he was at five years old

19:05

five he was benching fifty

19:07

pounds and squatting one hundred pounds. At

19:10

five years old, he

19:13

was benching fifty pounds, he could squat

19:15

an hundred. But but he is

19:18

is he like that pocket Hercules? Remember that little

19:20

kid had abs. He was just totally

19:22

jacked and he was like eight years old

19:24

or something. That I heard

19:27

that that kid doesn't lift weights anymore, like

19:29

this guy smoking heater is probably

19:33

hanging out at the gas

19:35

and ship. Yes. Is that good

19:37

parenting to allow your five year old to try to lift

19:40

that type of weight unless

19:43

you're sure they're going to mount us a multimillion dollar

19:45

pro athlete or something like that. Well, I are still

19:47

growing for another Yeah, I'm

19:49

not into parent parenting. So his father

19:51

is a professional athlete too, Yeah. I don't

19:54

want to get into parenting. I

19:57

have a hard enough time parenting my own kids.

19:59

I don't want to go. You shouldn't be allowing him

20:01

to lift fifty pounds.

20:03

I mean, his dad's a former athlete. It

20:05

seemed to work out, okay for it? Yes,

20:08

mclovin, you seem puzzled. You guys got to get on the

20:10

d K bandwagon. He no, No, I enjoy

20:12

it. Legue a touchdowns? How

20:15

can I avoid the bandwagon ran

20:17

over me? He's the best receiver in football.

20:19

It's he's not the best receiver in football.

20:22

He's statistically the best receiver. He's not better.

20:24

He's not the best receiver in football. He

20:26

definitely is. Okay, who's better? I

20:30

think Stefan Diggs has been great

20:32

this year. I think that

20:35

DeAndre Hopkins is great. I'm

20:38

sure there are a couple of the receivers. But

20:41

if I said you could have Hopkins or Medcalf

20:43

this season, I personally

20:45

would go back half because of the deep ThReD. Hopkins

20:48

is like a possession guy. Okay, Yeah,

20:51

Okas's awesome too. Yeah. I know last

20:53

night they should have thrown it to him every time, and they didn't.

20:55

For some reason. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't understand that

20:57

game plan there, all right, let me take a break. Ross.

21:00

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21:02

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21:05

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21:10

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21:15

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21:18

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21:20

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21:22

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21:25

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21:28

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23:01

Peacock Act. I might take Davonte

23:04

Adams over DK Metcalf mclovin.

23:06

I like DK Metcalf, He's wonderful,

23:09

he's been a great guest here. But I

23:11

got Davonte Adams, who's pretty

23:13

good. No, you're not wrong.

23:15

By the end. If you took DeAndre Hopkins, I probably

23:18

couldn't argue DeAndre Hopkins and Stefan

23:20

Diggs are having great years. Diggs is quiet,

23:23

though, like he is way off the radar dominating

23:25

stat watch. No, I'm just saying,

23:28

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23:30

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23:57

And then he sent me this bombshell. This more

24:00

this tweet. Are people nationally

24:02

aware that the Steelers, Eagles, penn

24:05

State, etc. And their opponents will

24:07

evidently be required to wear

24:09

masks while they're playing in

24:12

Pennsylvania from now on? Let's

24:14

start there. Ross, You got my attention? Yeah,

24:18

how are you? Dan? Thank you for having me. I'm

24:21

back in your favorite place, by the way, West Point,

24:23

New York, George's southern in army

24:25

tomorrow, looking forward to it. Yeah,

24:27

So, as you can see from my shirt,

24:30

my high schools in the state semifinal tomorrow.

24:33

So I've been following this closely. On

24:36

Wednesday, Governor Tom Wolfe

24:38

had four new mandates

24:41

to help slow the spread of the coronavirus,

24:44

one of which was, evidently

24:47

you still have to you now have to wear

24:49

masks inside if

24:51

you have someone over to your house, but also any

24:54

athletic competition. During

24:56

the athletic competition evidently

25:00

have to have a mask on. And what's

25:02

kind of funny about it, Dan is later

25:04

that day. This is all happened Wednesday. Later

25:06

that day, I think the Steelers said

25:09

we have an exemption for that. So

25:12

then yesterday the newspeople ask

25:14

the Governor's office do the Steelers

25:16

have an exemption? And the Governor's office said,

25:18

no, they don't have an exemption. Nobody has an

25:21

exemption. So right

25:23

now the understanding is everyone

25:26

in the state of Pennsylvania during athletic

25:28

competition will be required to

25:30

wear a mask. However, I've

25:32

seen the local PI

25:35

double A say it's

25:37

really up to the school districts and

25:39

they're solicitors to decide how they

25:41

handle it, So it's very very

25:43

interesting. And what I don't like about it

25:46

then anytime you talk about

25:48

something like this, it feels like it gets

25:50

political, right, you know. On the

25:52

one hand, I don't think wearing

25:54

a mask or a gator's that big a deal.

25:56

I've talked to some college kids at Miami,

25:59

Ohio or whatever. They've worn one in

26:01

practice all year. On the other

26:03

hand, we now have between

26:05

Australia and Europe and

26:07

United States thousands and thousands

26:10

of games and there's still no

26:12

evidence of transmission

26:14

during play, so it doesn't

26:16

really seem like this mandate would

26:18

actually be following the science or

26:20

the data. So it's a bit of a conundrum.

26:24

Okay, the Steelers and Eagles I

26:26

think are both on the road, so

26:29

they would have a week to

26:31

work this out if this is going to be implemented

26:34

with the NFL. Does that sound correct?

26:37

Yeah, I mean obviously the Steelers thought

26:39

it already was worked out. They play

26:41

Thanksgiving against the Ravens Thanksgiving

26:44

night. There are high school playoff games

26:46

tonight, and I think Penn State, Pit and

26:48

Temple might all have home

26:50

games tomorrow, so I don't

26:52

know. I mean, it's on TV. You know, I'm

26:55

sure, some of these games they can say, well, we're

26:57

not wearing it, They're not gonna It's hard to enforce,

26:59

but when you're on TV, they kind

27:01

of have pretty good evidence that you're not doing

27:04

it. Yeah. Well, then you have the situation

27:06

with the Raiders. The Raiders have eleven

27:08

players who have tested positive. They have this game

27:10

against Kansas City. Why hasn't

27:12

this game been moved? It felt

27:14

like when Stephan Gilmour tested positive

27:17

for the Patriots they move their Thursday

27:19

night game. How are they going to be

27:21

and like, at what point is it too many

27:23

players for the Raiders to be able

27:25

to play this game against Kansas City. Yeah.

27:28

So my understanding Dan and I might be

27:30

wrong on this is that most

27:32

of those guys are just close contacts

27:36

of one person that tested positive. So

27:38

I think a lot of them are going to come off

27:41

the COVID list tomorrow and Sunday. I think

27:44

most of those guys should be able to play

27:46

Sunday night. They just haven't been able to

27:48

practice all week, and the NFL

27:50

has decided that that is okay,

27:52

that's acceptable for guys

27:55

to not practice but still planning games. Heck,

27:57

it worked for Roethlisberger last

27:59

week were the Steelers, and

28:01

there's just there's no more byweeks, Dan, I mean, there's

28:03

no more opportunity.

28:05

I think at some point there's no

28:07

doubt in my mind the NFL went

28:10

from hey, there's a couple of guys

28:12

that can't play, we should, you

28:14

know, try to reschedule it to you know what,

28:17

this is just going to be part of it. This is part

28:19

of the competitive situation this

28:21

year. Don't be a high risk contact,

28:24

don't do things that cause you

28:26

to get COVID, and we're just gonna roll with it. If

28:29

you were an offensive lineman on the Saints, would you

28:31

rather have Jamis Winston or Taysom Hill

28:33

for this weekend's game? Oh?

28:38

You know, I haven't seen Taysom

28:41

Hill play quarterback

28:44

enough to really be able

28:46

to answer that. I

28:48

guess I'd probably rather have Jamis.

28:51

I think that he'd probably be able

28:53

to get rid of the ball quicker, but I

28:55

don't know about that. I do know this though, Dan, I think

28:57

it's interesting. You know, the Saints

28:59

gay Taysom Hill a one year extension

29:02

as a restricted free agent. That's twenty

29:05

one million dollars between

29:07

last year and this year. I

29:09

kind of assumed the thought that

29:11

that was because they thought he had a great

29:13

chance to be the heir apparent to Drew Brees.

29:16

But now this will be the second year in a row

29:18

that Drew Brees gets hurt yea, and

29:20

they're putting in another quarterback instead

29:23

of him. I guess they value

29:25

him that much as a gadget guy. And

29:27

also because James only under contract

29:29

for one year, they wanted to make sure

29:32

they had at least some option one

29:34

option under contract for twenty

29:36

twenty one. I guess I understand that he's

29:39

Ross Tucker, former NFL offensive lineman

29:41

Ross Tucker Football podcast and an

29:43

analyst for Westwood One. Also on

29:45

the call this Saturday at noon, Georgia's

29:47

Southern at West Point. All

29:50

right, let me go to the Thursday night game.

29:52

What we saw with Seattle's defense

29:54

stood out more than anything else. Is

29:57

this a one off or is

29:59

this what is this howel Seattle was going to be trying

30:01

to play the rest of the season. You

30:03

know what, They've actually been pretty

30:05

decent on defense. Three

30:08

out of the last four games, with the

30:10

exception of that Buffalo Bills game, Seattle

30:13

has played better on the defensive

30:15

side of the ball. We saw Carlos

30:17

Dunlap, who they got from the Bengals, was

30:20

a huge factor in the

30:22

game last night. And I do think it's funny.

30:24

Greg Cosell from NFL Films nine, we're debating

30:26

this on the row Stucker podcast

30:28

this morning. I do think Greg,

30:31

when they run the ball, Greg

30:33

Dan, when they run the ball a little

30:35

bit and keep the

30:37

defense fresh on the

30:39

sideline, that it does help

30:41

them. You know. I think they realized that

30:44

just trying to have Russell Wilson be

30:46

the hero and throw four or five touchdown

30:48

passes every week, it's really

30:50

really hard to do. So running

30:53

the ball a little bit helps Russell

30:55

and it's not as many snaps for the defense,

30:57

and that the line was able to get after Kyler

30:59

Murray a lot better as a result. And

31:02

Troy Aikman during the game said, defenses

31:04

aren't going to just sit back and

31:06

let Kyler Murray kind of dictate that

31:08

maybe defenses are going to start to go all

31:11

out put a little more pressure on him, and Seattle

31:13

did that. They disrupted his pocket

31:15

a little bit more, and they sort of dictated

31:18

if he was going to run, when he was going to run,

31:20

and if he was going to throw it's

31:22

easier said than done. But can you see

31:24

that as a blueprint moving forward with

31:27

defenses with Kyler? Absolutely,

31:30

Look if you just let him drop back and pass,

31:33

he's a really good passer. But be there

31:36

will eventually be a scene and

31:38

he will find it. And he's the quickest

31:41

quarterback, one of the quickest NFL players

31:44

I have ever seen. He's

31:46

gonna find it. I think the philosophy a little bit

31:48

is go get him before

31:51

he gets you. And really both

31:53

he and the Cardinals, boy, they had some critical

31:56

errors last night. I mean thinking about the end of the

31:58

first half, right, he slides Mes

32:00

a yard short of the first down

32:03

on second and four. Otherwise

32:05

they would have kept the ball. They probably would have gotten

32:07

a fuel goal in the half. Then third down, he doesn't give it to

32:09

Kenyan Drake, they have to punt and

32:12

the Seahawks get a fuel goal in the first

32:14

half. Then late in the game

32:16

he has that critical intentional

32:19

grounding. The next play is a holding

32:21

penalty in the end zone for a safety by

32:23

Sweezy. That was five points.

32:26

That really came down to what I would consider

32:28

mental errors by Kyler Murray.

32:31

Why is the sports media so obsessed

32:33

with Carson Wentz. You

32:38

know, I'm probably the wrong person

32:40

to answer this because I live outside

32:42

of Philadelphia and I do Eagles TV

32:45

and Eagles Radio, So I

32:47

mean, that's all I know. I didn't know it was national.

32:49

I know that's the way it isn't Philadelphia

32:52

for sure. I think for

32:54

whatever reason, he's become a really

32:56

polarizing player. You

32:58

know, twenty seventeen probably would have been

33:00

the MVP of the league and they might have won

33:02

the Super Bowl with him, but they

33:05

didn't, so he doesn't get

33:07

credit for that. And it feels

33:09

like he's kind of gotten a little bit worse

33:12

each year, and this year certainly,

33:14

he has struggled. So now and

33:16

then the Eagles drafted Jalen Hurts,

33:19

which added an intrigue

33:21

to the situation. So there are

33:23

people, you know, it's a really interesting thing.

33:25

Then, I know, you know this, right, but it's

33:28

hard to get people to come

33:30

off their original

33:32

take or their original opinion

33:35

of someone, and so many people

33:37

went in on the Carson Wentz

33:39

Top five quarterback Carson Wentz

33:42

MVP. That they're gonna

33:44

fight that, They're gonna hold on to that as

33:47

long as they can, even though unfortunately

33:49

for the Eagles. He clearly has not been

33:51

that guy this year, But how much

33:53

Blaine do we put on him? And

33:56

it's Jalen Hurts an upgrade if you put

33:58

him in there now. So I

34:01

think that Wentz deserves a lot

34:03

of blame this year. And I'm a big fan

34:05

of his personally and professionally.

34:08

They've had a lot of guys out, but he's had

34:10

so many turnovers this year, so

34:12

many really ugly surprising

34:15

turnovers where he's trying

34:17

to do too much. But the

34:19

thing that Dan is probably the scariest for the

34:21

Eagles and Eagles fans. You

34:23

know, last Sunday

34:25

Giants, Miles Sanders was back,

34:28

al Sean Jeffrey was back, Lane

34:30

Johnson was back, and by the way,

34:33

Carson Wentz didn't turn it over. I

34:35

mean, he didn't turn over. So

34:37

there was no sort of crutch or

34:40

excuse for why the Eagles lost.

34:43

They just got beat. I mean, the Giants were

34:45

just better. The Giants are just the better team

34:47

in that game. They won by ten, So

34:49

all of the sort of built

34:51

in excuses about injuries or turnovers

34:53

they all went out the window. So now Eagles fans

34:56

are kind of like, wait a minute, now, what now

34:58

are we just not good? I

35:01

love the way the Giants play.

35:04

You know, they may not be a great team, but

35:06

they play hard and it feels

35:08

like every week they're they're getting

35:10

better. I don't know if they steal this division,

35:13

but nothing would surprise me in the NFC East.

35:15

I just don't think the Eagles are a good team right

35:17

now. I don't think they're well coached right now. The

35:20

Cowboys are a mess right now, Washington's

35:22

a mess. And here are the Giants

35:25

without say Quon Barkley, and they

35:27

might be the best team in the division the second

35:29

half of the season. I

35:31

agree. They certainly were on Sunday.

35:34

You know, they've lost so many close

35:36

games. They've been Joe Judge has them

35:39

in every game. They easily

35:41

could have five or six wins

35:43

right now when you think about all the Cowboys

35:45

game and the Bucks game, I mean all

35:48

these close losses. Joe

35:50

Judge done a nice job with that team. The

35:52

defense is much improved.

35:54

Daniel Jones two games in a row without

35:57

turning it over right now, I think they are

35:59

the best team the NFCS. The only thing I would

36:01

say, and I've been saying this all week, is

36:04

this is exactly when the Eagles

36:06

win, I mean in a

36:08

row twenty seventeen, eighteen

36:11

nineteen, just

36:12

when, just when all the

36:14

Eagles fans are like, I'm

36:17

done with them, I'm not watching anymore. The

36:19

season's over. They somehow

36:21

win when you least suspect it and

36:23

figure out a way to win the division. You go to the playoffs

36:26

and maybe even make a run. So we'll see a big game against

36:28

Cleveland on Sunday. Great to talk to

36:30

you, Ross, Thank you. Enjoy West

36:33

Point Army against Georgia's Southern coming

36:35

up at noon eastern on CBS Sports Network.

36:37

Thank you, buddy, My pleasure always.

36:39

That's Ross Tucker, former NFL offensive lineman

36:42

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Zaven Collins to start the game. He

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ends up finishing the game as well.

38:05

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38:07

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38:09

go are you kidding me? Like?

38:12

Total? Because I bet it probably happens a

38:14

dozen times. Again, I mean, are you kidding me? Holy

38:17

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38:19

Yes, pony, Yeah, that's probably a real common

38:21

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38:24

I think, well, that's the one that drives me crazy.

38:26

I hear that a lot because it's well,

38:28

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38:31

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38:33

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38:35

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39:10

feels like the Cardinals do have his number

39:12

a little bit. He's played four games against

39:14

Arizona. He has

39:17

three point eight targets, he has

39:19

one and a half receptions and

39:22

total touchdowns is one.

39:25

Two Arizona games this year, Metcalf

39:27

has been held to ten targets, five catches,

39:29

sixty nine yards, one touchdown locket.

39:32

Meanwhile, twenty nine targets,

39:34

twenty four receptions, two hundred and sixty

39:36

seven yards, and four touchdowns.

39:40

Feels like that could be a stat of

39:42

the day or two stat of the day. Wow

39:44

day, best stat of the day.

39:47

Stat of the day, dude,

39:50

comes that what stat of the

39:52

day? Cleveland

39:55

Browns are going to place his defensive end Miles

39:57

Garrett on the reserve COVID nineteen

40:00

list. Does that mean he's out of

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the game this weekend? McLevin Yes, reportedly

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is out of the game. Okay, he didn't

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practice all. He hasn't been in the facility all week, which

40:09

is good. So he hasn't been contacted with other

40:11

people. Okay, but this is contact. This

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doesn't mean that he has to further reports

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say that he's out. Okay, Yeah.

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NFL reporters followed up at the

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Browns, I guess answered that question. Okay,

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you know, at some point I'm trying to figure out

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how many how many players on the Raiders

40:29

have to test positive for them to reschedule.

40:32

You know, Week four Steelers in

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Tennessee, Patriots in Kansas City

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and they were moved to Monday,

40:40

or they were moved to another week. Week five,

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Buffalo in Tennessee. Week six

40:44

Kansas City and Buffalo was moved from

40:46

Thursday to Monday, Denver

40:49

at the Patriots Sunday to Monday,

40:53

Jets at the Dolphins. That was

40:55

moved to Sunday, October

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eighteenth.

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Week seven the Steelers and the Ravens.

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That was moved from Sunday, October

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twenty fifth to the November

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first. Jacksonville

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and the Chargers moved Like

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there's a whole long list here just games

41:14

being moved, but the Raiders game

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is not going to be moved. And it feels

41:18

like there's more players involved in

41:20

COVID on the Raiders than any

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of these teams, maybe except for Tennessee

41:25

mclovin. Do you think the NFL is

41:28

doing it disservice us? I guess they don't have to

41:30

saying revert COVID list

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as compared to this guy testa positive. So

41:34

we're kind of left guessing is what's actually happening

41:37

there? Because you can still

41:39

play if you're on the COVID list, right, He's

41:41

like Ben was on the COVID list and he came back and

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played even though he didn't practice. Yeah,

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And I'm just trying to figure this out, trying

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to figure it out like everybody else. But

41:50

it felt like eleven players

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are at least affiliated with the COVID

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list or test and

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they have the game against Kansas any coming up this weekend.

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But Ross Hooker said a lot of them will come back. I

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guess yeah. One guy on there, Trent

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Brown's been on the COVID list twice. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah. So then coming

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up top of the hour, Frank I Solo from

42:13

the Mothership covers the NBA, one

42:15

of the stars of Around the Horn. Pardon the interruption.

42:18

I got to talk to him about what's going on with Gordon

42:20

Hayward, who turned down thirty four million dollars

42:22

to stay with the Celtics. Is he

42:24

going to the Knicks? Is Carmelo Anthony coming

42:26

back to the Knicks. What are some of these other

42:28

moves with free agency starting

42:30

today? So we'll check in with Frank Hill join

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us. Coming up, we'll get to your phone calls

42:35

as well. And do we have a poll question. We're

42:37

settling in with McLevin on this Friday. You

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know, I had one left over from yesterday

42:41

there I left on the website. Who should the

42:43

Saints start Taysom Hill or Jamis

42:46

Winston? Can you guess which people

42:48

which way? People voted? Well, ideally

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I'd like to see Taysom Hill just because

42:53

there's a fascination in the curiosity here.

42:55

But if I'm trying to win the game, then I start

42:57

Jameis Winston. Yeah,

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seventy percent want to start Jameis Winson. But

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something just came over Twitter that is going to be

43:05

interesting regarding the storyline.

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WHOA, look at you.

43:10

You're in the teas business. I guess?

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Oh what else wise was it? Did I? Did I nail

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it? Yeah? Yeah, you could

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be part of the teas and bump unit at the Mothership

43:19

like Todd's Brother. One

43:22

hour of the books. Two more to go on this meet Friday.

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