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Dan and the Dan n Stan Patrick's Show, as we always

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do every Monday, Best and Worst of the weekend. What

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you saw that you liked you didn't

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like? A lot to digest over

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the weekend. Ram's Buccaneers coming

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up tonight, Joe Burrow out for the season.

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Steelers improved to ten, and oh big question

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marks attached to the Baltimore

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Ravens who have a short work week. They

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get ready for the Steelers. Thanksgiving.

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Taysom Hill with a nice debut. College

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football, Northwestern beats Wisconsin,

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Ohio State survives Indiana,

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and Florida State taps out of the Clemson

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game. Speaking of that game,

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Clemson made the trip, they

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had set up a tent, they were going to do

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all the testing, they were going to get ready. They

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needed this game against Florida State, and

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then Florida State decided to tap out.

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And here's Dabo Sweeney talking about

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that decision. He was not pleased

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and said, we offered the test again,

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play Saturday night, Sunday Monday,

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and it was declined. We

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spent three several hundred thousand dollars

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three hundred plus thousand dollars

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to travel. We set up a

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Ringling Brother's tent, took

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an entire parking lot to

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do what we have to do to meet

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the standards. We had people travel

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from all over the country to come to the

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game to see the game. We

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met the standard to play and we should have played.

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We have mitigated everything all year

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long, all year meetings,

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practices, meals, housing,

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how we travel. If

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the standard to play was zero positive tests,

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then we would have never had a season. This

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game was not canceled because of COVID.

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COVID was just an excuse to cancel the game.

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And to be honest with you, I don't think it has anything to

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do with their players. I have no

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doubt that their players wanted to play and

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would have played, and same with

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the coaches. To me,

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the Florida State administration forfeited the game,

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and if they want to play Clemson, in my opinion,

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they need to come to Clemson or they need

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to pay for all expenses. Other than

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that, there's no reason for us to play him. We

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were there, we were ready, and we

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met the standards. Dabo

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calls out Florida States saying they just didn't want

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to play Clemson, but there

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are numerous reports that the cancelation

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shows a major weakness in college football's

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protocol due to the timing of

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the test. Dabo doesn't come off

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as very sensitive here with player's safety,

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but he does have a point with you got

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on a plane to go down there, you spent the

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money to go down there, you set up safety

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protocols, you were going to do testing when you got

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there, and was it one

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player that made you nervous, Because

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if you're waiting for zero percent, it's

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not happening zero test, positive

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test. I mean, that's not going to happen right now,

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not at this late stage in college football.

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But the ACC canceled

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this game and Dabo Sweeney won

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Drafting quarterback Joe Burrow appeared to be a

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stroke of luck for the Bengals franchise, and

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this is a team that hasn't had much luck in recent

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years. But Burrow is out

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now. He hurt his knee on Sunday, gone

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for the rest of the season. He had a strong rookie

3:27

season, and the Bengals were interesting.

3:31

You can have teams that are good

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but they're not relevant. You can have bad

3:35

teams that aren't relevant. The Bengals

3:37

aren't a good team, but they were relevant because

3:39

of Joe Burrow. There was something

3:41

there. He was, you know, the face

3:43

of college football. Then he goes to the Bengals.

3:46

He's averaging forty pass

3:48

attempts per game, and that came

3:50

back and haunt him because

3:52

he got hurt, got sacked

3:55

yesterday and he's done for the

3:57

rest of the year. But it

3:59

felt like the Bengals were asking him to do

4:01

a lot. It's one thing just to play

4:03

the position, it's another thing to play

4:06

it well as a rookie, and it

4:08

felt like they were asking him to do herculean

4:11

task here. And the

4:13

key is he had the talent to throw

4:16

it forty times a game, But did

4:18

they have the talent to protect him from

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throwing at forty times a game? Was it

4:22

a question of if? But not when he was

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going to get hurt with that exposure there

4:26

the number of times you get hit as a quarterback,

4:29

not sacks, the number of times you're getting

4:31

hit. But Joe Burrow

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hopes to pick up where he left off. He had a great

4:36

tweak. Can't get rid of me that easily. I'll

4:38

see you next year. And he

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had had a great start

4:43

to an NFL career. Justin

4:46

Herbert yesterday, I know it's against the Jets,

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but he looks very

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calm, cool, and you

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know, some of those passes really

4:56

beautiful. And I just didn't see

4:58

that at Oregon. I didn't know if he the consistency

5:00

to be this kind of quarterback athletic,

5:04

good arm, but to have, you

5:06

know, to fit it into tight spaces, because

5:08

quarterbacks will tell you in the NFL

5:10

you throw somebody open. It's

5:13

not like college where somebody's open, you're

5:15

throwing them open. And Justin Herbert,

5:18

he is emerging now as your rookie

5:20

of the year. Tuah. It's

5:23

this is a learning

5:25

process, a longer road for Tuah.

5:28

And you saw that yesterday got sacked six times.

5:30

Denver did a great job. They brought in

5:32

Ryan Fitzpatrick, and you

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can say, well, wasn't performance based why I got

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benched. It might have been a safety precautionary

5:40

move with Brian Flores. Maybe

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it was a combination of both, but bringing

5:44

in Ryan Fitzpatrick to me, gives them a better

5:47

chance to win this year. But you want to find

5:49

out what you have with your quarterback. And Ryan

5:51

Fitzpatrick is expendable too,

5:53

was not. Yeah, po I looking back at the Justin

5:56

Herbert draft bios and there's there's two years

5:58

of them, because everyone thought he was going to go out

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a couple of years ago and he did. Remember, he

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came back to Oregon and people thought he's gonna be the

6:04

number one, number two pick of the draft

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two years ago. And then but then

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he kind of cooled off or maybe people moved

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on to other quarterbacks Borough, et cetera, et

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cetera. And then when he came out last year or

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you know in April, people a lot

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of the draft reviews say more of a

6:19

project, there's there's work to be

6:21

done with accuracy, etc. But it was he

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was a lot hotter the year before. Well

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that's usually the case, is when these guys go back

6:28

for one more year, then all of a sudden, we get

6:30

one more year to really dissect them,

6:32

and then they never live up to that billing.

6:35

You know, like Dwayne Haskins. If Haskins

6:37

had stayed at Ohio State and granted he might have

6:39

put up fifty touchdowns again, but

6:41

we would have a chance to nitpick a little bit more.

6:44

By the way, Justin Fields draft Stock

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took a little bit of a hit against Indiana.

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He didn't look good at all and

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Indiana played well. Indiana

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in Columbus going toe to toe.

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That was That was one of those I know, you don't

6:59

get any credit for moral victories here.

7:02

That felt like that was more of a loss

7:04

for Ohio State. They won the game, but

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they took a little bit of a hit. Nashally, I think, yeah,

7:08

McLevin on Justin Herbert, are

7:11

we doing it again where we're telling everybody

7:13

that a rookie quarterback is great? Because I'm thinking

7:15

if Carson Weds was the truth, there was a second

7:17

year but I was so convinced that there's

7:20

no way you can miss and kinda Baker Mayfield

7:22

is a rookie and he hasn't missed. But I

7:24

feel like we just not you. But like

7:26

everybody's jumping on Justin Herbert is the

7:28

real deal now and we still don't know where

7:30

the career is going. Oh I don't know how good he's going

7:32

to be, but I can't appreciate with what he's

7:34

doing. I mean, that's I'm

7:37

not amazing. I'm not over hyping him as

7:39

much as I'm just I watched the game

7:42

because if you watch highlights, then I think

7:44

you your mind gets filled

7:46

with something different, where you go, Wow, that guy's

7:49

incredible. Well watch the game

7:51

and see what he does. What happens

7:53

if he throws an interception, what does

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he do the next series? Or if you

7:57

know, he throws a touchdown, how's he react?

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How do his teammates react to him? Like, I just like

8:02

to see the context of a

8:04

quarterback playing the position, not

8:06

just hey, here's another touchdown and

8:09

there's another touchdown. That's not a

8:11

great indicator of how good a quarterback

8:13

plays. And watching him yesterday,

8:15

I know it's the Jets, but I

8:18

there's a calmness to him. It

8:22

just is Joe Burrow the same way

8:24

too. I'm not comfortable with right now.

8:27

It's going to take the rest of the season, and

8:29

even then I probably won't be as comfortable with

8:31

him. But Joe Burrow Man,

8:34

it felt like he could make something happen every

8:36

single play. And the same with Justin Herbert. Yeah,

8:39

mclub, I'm not really saying you there's others

8:41

in the media who are really annointing him

8:43

that it feels like he's flavor of the

8:45

month. Well, I've done this for a long, long

8:48

long time. In other words,

8:50

I'm old and I've seen this where

8:52

you go, that guy can't miss, that guy

8:54

is unbelievable all

8:56

sports, and

8:58

somebody will say, oh that guys, okay,

9:01

they can miss. They do miss. It happens all

9:03

the time. They are more misses than makes

9:06

you know, far less successful stories

9:08

than you think. And I just

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admire what I see. It's you

9:12

know, Lamar Jackson loved

9:14

what I saw, loved him in college, and

9:17

I thought that the Ravens got a steal. But

9:20

I was probably the first person to say

9:23

earlier this year that a scout said people

9:26

in the NFL still aren't sold on him.

9:28

It didn't mean I wasn't rooting for him or I don't

9:30

like him. It's just I give you

9:32

the reality of this. I don't have any

9:34

fandom. I'm not you know, based

9:37

in any you know fan base that

9:39

you know. I grew up a Bengals fan, so you

9:41

can't say I'm a front runner. But

9:44

I just think that we're still looking at Lamar Jackson

9:47

and we want to see what he does when he doesn't

9:49

have a great offensive line. We want to see

9:51

what he does when his team is behind,

9:55

because he's a great front runner, unbelievable

9:57

front runner last year. But when

9:59

his team is behind or he's

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missing some parts there, that's

10:03

what I want to see because

10:07

that's when you see a quarterback be able to

10:09

improvise make up for something. They

10:11

do something different, they manage the game differently.

10:14

That's when you get a true sense of a quarterback.

10:17

And Lamar Jackson right now has

10:19

not been great, has not been good at

10:21

times. They're predictable and

10:24

they get bullied around. They got pushed around by

10:26

the Titans yesterday. Now

10:29

they you know, they got to figure this out

10:31

real quickly. They got the Steelers coming

10:34

up and this is a

10:36

hugely important game for them. Dan,

10:39

I don't want to sell anybody out, but there's a guy in a back

10:41

row who would almost guarantee the Steelers

10:44

lose this wing. Okay, it just feels

10:46

like everybody the way narratives are, this

10:48

is this where the Ravens bounce back against their arch

10:50

rival. I know they struggle against the Steelers, but

10:53

based on nothing except a second game, and

10:55

you know, we're all hyping up the Steelers. Yes,

10:58

yeah, this is where I have those moments where

11:00

I go, I don't know why I like this team,

11:03

but I like this team. This is the NFL.

11:06

There's probably like seven games a year

11:08

where I go, I don't know why I like this

11:10

team, Like the Vikings beating the Packers

11:13

a couple of weeks ago. I

11:15

just said, I don't know why, but I like

11:17

that. I like the Vikings to beat

11:19

the pack There's no reason for it other

11:22

than it's the NFL. And sometimes you just

11:24

have those weeks where you go, what happened? What

11:27

just happened here? And I don't know if

11:29

that's going to be the case. What are

11:31

the Steelers favored by in this game? Oh?

11:34

Efforty? Okay, what else

11:36

do you have? By the way, were you shocked that the Vikings

11:38

lost the Cowboys? I feel like that wasn't a shock

11:40

for some reason. Well, the Cowboys did

11:42

play well. Andy Dalton played well, Zeke Elliott

11:44

played well, Amari Cooper got

11:47

reintroduced to the NFL. Kirk

11:51

d Cousins played well. I mean their

11:53

skill position guys played well. Theeland

11:55

played well. It was just one of those shootouts

11:58

where I will send

12:00

it up, you know, having the ball last and

12:02

winning the game. So was I surprised

12:05

a little bit because the Vikings

12:07

had been playing well, and you know you have

12:09

Dalvin Cook running the ball, feeling in

12:11

Jefferson and Kirti Cousins

12:14

throws for three hundred yards. If I said all of those

12:16

things happened, I would have said, oh, of course

12:18

they're gonna win. Yeah, Paul, here are your Thanksgiving

12:20

games. Twelve thirty pm. Eastern Texans

12:23

Lion Yeah, Houston given two

12:25

and a half. Yea naptime

12:27

all right, Washington versus the Cowboys

12:29

four thirty pm. Eastern Cowboys given

12:32

two and a half. And then your

12:34

primetime game eight twenty pm. Eastern Ravens

12:37

versus the Steelers. Steelers

12:39

giving three and a half, which means it's basically a pick

12:41

them. Okay, Rams Buccaneers

12:43

coming up tonight. A

12:46

couple of interesting things yesterday from

12:50

some of the action. Sean Payton six and oh with backups

12:53

to the last two seasons, which pretty amazing

12:55

what he did with Teddy Bridgewater and then Taysom Hill.

12:57

We'll check in with the Saints coming up. Here's

13:00

another one. The Jets have been officially eliminated

13:02

from playoff contention, but the loss and

13:04

the Colts win. Since nineteen ninety

13:07

in terms of weeks, week

13:09

eleven is the earliest the

13:11

Jets have been eliminated from playoff

13:14

contention. Previous

13:16

earliest elimination came in week twelve

13:18

of nineteen ninety six and twenty fourteen.

13:21

Congratulations Jets, And

13:23

they took a lead six nothing and

13:27

you know, against the Chargers, and I thought, Okay,

13:29

is this is this the kind of game the Jets

13:31

win? And then I go, now, they're the Jets.

13:34

They can't they can't possibly do this,

13:36

can't possibly screw this up. Something

13:39

else that stood out to me the Packers have blown

13:42

leads of seven, ten and fourteen points

13:44

in each of their last three losses.

13:48

That's not a coincidence. Feels

13:51

like it's a little bit more habit forming here.

13:54

But yesterday against the Colds, you know,

13:56

they were up two touchdowns, and I

13:58

give the Colts credit, it came back,

14:01

although they didn't let the Packers come down, tie

14:03

it and go into overtime and a

14:06

lot of penalties, I mean, the holding calls.

14:08

It's just it's it just

14:11

ruins the flow of a game. And

14:14

it felt like the officials were pretty good the entire

14:16

season where they weren't nitpicking. But

14:19

I'm watching that game and I'm going I

14:21

expected a holding call, and

14:23

it's rare. You don't go into a game. You're

14:25

watching the game, you go, yeah, wait for another

14:28

holding call that game. I

14:30

just thought when there wasn't a holding call, I went, I'll

14:32

be damned, there's no holding call, or

14:35

just felt like, hey, they're not going

14:37

to do it all

14:40

right? Uh, let me see a couple of phone

14:42

calls here, fill

14:44

in Indiana. I fail. What do you have for me today?

14:47

Hey, Dan, it's always a pleasure body. First off,

14:50

I think that Jets have already been eliminated from

14:52

next year's playoffs as well. I'm pretty

14:54

sure, say real quick,

14:56

Dan. My worst of the weekend was Doug Peterson's

14:58

comments after the game. He said,

15:02

replacing Carson Wentz sends

15:04

a message to your team that you're quitting

15:06

already. At what point, Dan, I

15:08

want to get your thoughts. I mean, when do you replace

15:10

him at three ten and one, three twelve and one.

15:12

Because I'm looking at that schedule, Dan, I

15:14

don't seem any more wins on there. And by

15:17

the way, Dan, thanks for everything. Happy Thanksgiving

15:19

to you and yours as well. Thank you, Phil. I always

15:21

appreciate your phone calls. Here

15:23

Here is Doug Peterson, the Eagles head coach,

15:25

on benching Carson Wentz. If

15:27

you get to that spot, whether you don't

15:29

start him or your bench, I think you're you're

15:32

sending a raw message to your football team

15:34

that the season's over. And and

15:37

that's a that's a bad message. And you

15:39

know, we have to we have to work through this times.

15:42

You know, when when when times get tough, it's

15:45

you know, sometimes that might be the easy thing to

15:47

do. You know, sometimes

15:49

you do it for Carson Wentz that

15:52

maybe you let him step back and

15:55

watch the game, you

15:57

know, not go out there and just continue

15:59

to make the same mistakes and let's

16:01

see what you have. And Jalen Hurts, I

16:04

mean the Saints did that with Taysom Hill.

16:06

I know it was with an injury. Carson

16:08

Wentz has got a bruised ego. Maybe

16:10

sitting on the sidelines, let him, let

16:13

him watch a half a game, see what Jalen

16:15

Hurts does. Maybe you get a spark from

16:17

Jalen Hurts. They're still in playoff

16:19

contention with some so they're

16:22

in the playoffs right now, they

16:25

they will host a playoff game if they

16:27

win their division. They

16:29

could be hosting like the Rams,

16:32

or they could be hosting the Buccaneers.

16:35

You know these teams that don't win their division. Imagine

16:37

that you're you're the Buccaneers, you don't win your

16:39

division, or the Rams, and then you have to

16:41

go play the Eagles. Yes, I'm

16:43

looking at the odds right now. The odds are

16:46

that the team that wins the NFC East will

16:48

have six victories as of right

16:50

now, based on how all the math works

16:52

out. Who plays whom? Whom?

16:54

Six and ten and

16:57

you're hosting a playoff game or six

16:59

nine and one? Yes, yeah, I'm glob

17:02

I'm very confused as to which bandwagon

17:04

I should be on because I got the Red Rifle in

17:06

Dallas. But I grew up an Eagles

17:08

fan. But this Eagles team is

17:10

it's hard to root for them right now. The

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17:40

we have the poll question? Then we're gonna take a break. We'll

17:42

check in with the Saints. I put up on which team should

17:44

be most panic after their loss on Sunday,

17:47

runaway winner Baltimore Ravens, but

17:49

not far behind them the Green Bay Packers. Yeah,

17:51

the Packers was a little more alarming. From

17:53

the standpoint of it looked like they had that game

17:56

in total control. But as I text

17:58

you, guys, I think the Colts were two and a half

18:00

point favorites and all of a

18:02

sudden it went into overtime and then they

18:04

were driving. And I said, keep in

18:06

mind the point spread is two and a half

18:09

and the kick is good. Take

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receiving yards in the NFL this season,

19:53

one and eighteen yards per game. Yesterday

19:55

there wide receivers had

19:57

seventy receiving yards

20:00

total. And that's a big difference. Though

20:02

this is a great front running team, and

20:04

I know that that sounds strange to say both teams

20:07

would be good front running teams. Baltimore was

20:09

unbelieable last year. Once they got up, they

20:11

never let you, you know, they never let you get off

20:13

the map. They were wonderful. And

20:16

this year they haven't been able to do that. If they don't

20:18

get out in front of you and they have to play catch up,

20:21

they don't have the offense the system right now

20:23

to be able to do that. He's Mike Triplet,

20:25

ESPN NFL Nation reporter

20:28

covering the Saints. I saw where Taysom

20:30

Hill gave himself a BB plus after the game.

20:33

What great would you give him Mike, Well,

20:36

it depends that are grading on the curve

20:38

of the expectations that were sold for him,

20:41

then it would be then it would probably be an eight

20:43

plus. But that's fair. He

20:45

missed a couple of throws, actually completed

20:47

a forty four yard or on one of the throws he missed,

20:50

But then he had a couple that would have made it even more

20:52

specially complete a fifty seven yard touchdown

20:54

pass that was called back by holding.

20:56

But look, I think this was proof not

21:00

that he is the next Steve Young, not

21:02

that he's even going to be the Saints next starter

21:04

after Drew Brees retires, but that he's not

21:06

just a gimmick and that he can be a pocket

21:09

passer with running ability. Sean

21:11

Payton wasn't making all this stuff up or

21:13

just trying to show off when he kept saying he believed

21:15

he could win with Taysom Hill a quarterback. Was

21:18

Sean Payton gloating post game? Not

21:20

as much as we all would have liked, I think,

21:22

but at least one

21:25

retweet of Roddy White, the former

21:27

Falcons receiver, who I think when Sean

21:29

Payton retweeted that cold take, he was sort

21:32

of choosing the one that would represent

21:34

all of the cold takes that he would be up all

21:36

night if he was looking for all of them. I

21:38

didn't think they were going to go with Taysom Hill. I

21:40

just thought that Jamis Winston made the most sense.

21:43

And I'm not rooting against Taysom

21:45

Hill or the experiment there. It

21:47

just felt like maybe Jamis Winston, under

21:49

the tutely to Sean Payton and Drew Brees,

21:52

was going to be able to manage a game a little bit more

21:54

intelligently and not take chances there.

21:57

What does Taysom Hill like as Taysom Hill

22:00

is this week to week or is Taysom Hill there

22:02

as long as Drew is out, Well,

22:04

it's hard to envision them doing anything

22:07

week to week now. They're not afraid

22:09

of some subterviews. They obviously kept

22:11

this a secret as long as they could last week,

22:13

so it wouldn't be the most surprising

22:16

thing I've ever seen if there is a out

22:18

of nowhere Jameis Winston game plan one

22:20

day, but I think the more likely

22:23

ideas that they stick with Taysom Hill, because look,

22:25

this wasn't a huge surprise in the

22:27

grand scheme of things. I mean, they did just pay Taysom

22:30

Hill two years, twenty one million dollars in

22:32

the off season, a couple months before they ever

22:34

even signed Jameis Winston in the first place, and

22:36

they've been talking for years about Taysom

22:38

Hill being next in line. It actually, you

22:41

can make an argument would have been unfair

22:43

to have Winston leap frog him. This is

22:45

his fourth year in the system and he's been waiting

22:47

his turn, and Peyton said he deserves this. The

22:49

only reason I thought they might stick with

22:51

Winston is because I thought it might be a harder

22:54

midseason transition to Taysom Hill. I thought

22:56

maybe it would have taken more than one week

22:59

to game plan for Taysom Hill,

23:01

change the offense around him. But I

23:03

think two things happen. One, we

23:05

saw that Sean Payton has had these Taysom Hill

23:07

ideas in his mind for a long

23:09

time. There are a lot of Hill plays

23:12

in the playbook. And two, he was more of a pocket passer

23:14

than anyone expected. There were a small

23:16

amount of design runs and

23:18

he stood back in the pocket quite a bit. Now,

23:21

one of those touchdown runs was on a design

23:23

pass play that broke down, which

23:25

is an element he brings. But they're not just relying

23:27

on his legs when he runs this off. But what I

23:29

didn't understand, Mike, is that Sean

23:31

Payton basically said, look, we have to find out

23:33

what we have in Taysom Hill. At

23:35

this point, you still don't know what you have in

23:38

Taysom Hill, well,

23:40

not necessarily, And you know he didn't

23:42

come out and say that openly. I think that was a

23:44

source attributed to him. But I

23:46

think it's a combination of two things.

23:48

It's their

23:50

belief that he could potentially replace

23:52

Drew Brees as a starter is genuine. So

23:55

if you are someone who really believes that,

23:58

why wouldn't he be the guy that you put into

24:00

this situation. You can't just keep putting him

24:02

on hold and keep him as a maybe

24:04

they need a starter this week. If they believe

24:06

in Taysom Hill, why shouldn't he be the starter. What's

24:09

the update on Drew Brees? The

24:12

latest he came out and he told Edwarder that

24:14

he is optimistic he can come back after

24:16

the three weeks he's required to miss with

24:18

injured reserve. So many unknowns with this

24:20

injury. You can't just look up, oh yeah, you know,

24:23

punctured lungs always take four weeks. You can't

24:25

do that. I'm sure there'll be a lot of medical

24:28

updates, but we do know that he's going to be determined

24:30

to come back, and that optimism

24:33

that he expressed after talking to a lot of

24:35

doctors makes it seem realistic he could do that

24:38

before the regular season. Is why does this injury

24:40

get worse? It feels like every other day like they've

24:42

added, has another broken rib taken

24:44

place? Here? He's got eleven,

24:47

Mike, Well, you know he

24:49

wants to do everything to the fullest.

24:52

Brady is going to come out and say he

24:54

broke ten ribs,

24:56

but that number where Brady couldn't

24:58

catch him. But do you think that all of

25:00

this happened on that one sack?

25:03

It felt like he was prior to this, right, He's

25:05

been open about the

25:08

latest reporting or what he told Edward

25:10

was that eight of them were on the left

25:12

side, which was a previous injury,

25:15

and three of them were on the right side, which was

25:17

the new injury. Now, he had been playing through that and

25:19

playing pretty well. He'd been on the injury

25:21

report at the shoulder injury, so he had obviously been feeling

25:23

some discomfort, but until

25:26

all the swelling went down. They didn't actually go in

25:28

and count each rib fracture. It's

25:31

great to talk to you. Mike. Certainly

25:33

got a big story there with Taysom

25:35

Hill and then the return of the Saints. I thought

25:37

the defensive line won that game. I thought the

25:39

pressure they put on Matt Ryan was

25:42

really the difference maker in

25:44

my opinion. Yeah, that's three weeks in

25:46

a row for the defense. I mean he saw him on Sunday

25:48

at Football thirty eighth three over Tampa. They were

25:50

playing great, and that was the case last year when Teddy

25:52

everybody remembers Teddy Bridgewater went five and I

25:55

was the Saint starter. Defense was playing a big

25:57

role in that as well. Thank you, Mike, Thank

25:59

you. That's Mike Triplett, ESPN NFL

26:02

Nation reporter covering the Saints. The Saints

26:04

now eight and two, and then you have the

26:06

big game with the Buccaneers coming up against the

26:08

Rams. By the way, I mentioned Lamar Jackson

26:10

and the Ravens. They're great front runners, and

26:12

Lamar Jackson's career starts, including

26:14

the postseason, the Ravens are nineteen and one

26:17

when they lead after the first quarter, six

26:19

and eight when they're tied or trailing.

26:22

After the first quarter, stat

26:24

of the day, stat of the day, that

26:27

past stat of the day, stat of

26:29

the day, here comes

26:32

that what stat of the day.

26:36

By the way, mcleovan, let me go back to the Eagles.

26:38

Didn't the Eagles sort of set this

26:40

up by drafting Jalen Hurts.

26:43

Yeah, so if you have this much

26:45

confidence in Carson Wentz, then

26:47

why are you spending a second round draft pick on a

26:49

quarterback? Because now we go, well,

26:51

you spend a second round pick on

26:54

Jalen Hurts. Let's put him in here. If Carson

26:56

Wentz is struggling, if you don't have Jalen Hurts

26:58

in there, you didn't draft him, and

27:00

you have just a regular backup

27:02

here. You know, Case Keenum. Are

27:04

people clamoring for case Keenum to go

27:06

in there. They want what they don't know

27:09

about, you know, the possibility

27:11

of Jalen Hurts. He can run, he can

27:13

throw. Okay, good

27:15

luck with that. But they set

27:18

this up where we would be questioning, Hey,

27:20

is Jalen Hurts the guy who should be going in

27:22

for Carson Wentz. I have

27:25

no idea why they did. Is it a little bit like the

27:27

Patriots with Jimmy Garoppolo just

27:29

having a high end backup that maybe could be draft

27:31

capital. Is that. I have no idea.

27:34

I will

27:36

say when I watch the game that Carson

27:38

Wentz is playing the worst football of his career,

27:42

right, and Doug

27:44

Peterson admitted that that he's playing poorly.

27:46

But you can't say if I bring in Jalen

27:49

Hurts for Carson Wentz, it would be telling

27:51

the team that they were giving up on the season.

27:54

If you leave him in there, you could

27:56

be giving up on the season as well with the

27:58

way he's playing. So I'm not quite sure

28:00

I understand it.

28:02

It's not like Hurts is gonna come in and there's gonna

28:04

be another skill position guy or another offensive

28:07

lineman who's gonna come in and help him

28:09

there. But would the

28:11

offense be worse if Jalen Hurts

28:13

goes in there, because it feels

28:16

like that's what Doug Peterson is saying, that

28:18

the offense might be worse. But

28:22

I don't know is it play calling. It

28:25

feels like there's a lot of things involved here with

28:27

Doug Peterson. I

28:30

hope he enjoys that statue outside

28:32

the stadium there. Yes, there's

28:35

a lot of people of Phil you say, Frank Reichs doing amazing

28:37

in Indianapolis. He was the offensive Cordair on

28:39

the Super Bowl team. Maybe that's the problem.

28:42

Yeah, it could be. I

28:44

just think it's easy to lay

28:46

this at the feet of Carson Wentz. Carson

28:48

Wentz is not playing well at all. But

28:51

you can't you can't say it feels

28:53

like you're giving up on the season

28:56

if you leave Carson Wentz in there. If

28:58

I at least try something new,

29:00

then it feels like I'm actually trying

29:02

to do something that will change

29:05

what these outcomes are. I

29:08

mean, if they're out of the playoffs, would they be going

29:10

with Jalen Hurts And I believe

29:12

they would be. But because you're in the

29:14

worst division in the history of football, you're

29:17

gonna leave Carson Wentz in there. Yeah. Po. The

29:19

other thing I noticed yesterday you mentioned Phil Rivers.

29:22

I think the Colts got the ball back on a turnover late

29:24

in the game and Rivers was in the blue tent getting

29:26

checked out because I think his heel or his ankle got

29:29

hit. Rivers ran on the blue

29:31

tent. He like knocks half the blue tent over. He

29:34

could barely run when he's perfectly healthy and optimal

29:36

conditions. Phil rivers as a running and now he's

29:38

hurt. He can't find his helmet. He's scrambling, yelling

29:40

at people, give me a helmet. He's running on the field. It

29:42

looked like his pants runs up to it was a great

29:45

A couple of phone calls in here. We'll check

29:47

in with Chris Mannock's Top of the Hour. There's

29:49

a lot of basketball decisions made over

29:51

the weekend, some that I really liked

29:53

and some I got some big questions about.

29:56

Now we know why Gordon Hayward said

29:58

I'm gonna turn down thirty four million dollars

30:00

from the Celtics because I have

30:02

somebody who pay me thirty for four years

30:05

individually. Do you think do you think he

30:07

was getting thought he was getting pranked. When Mike

30:10

Jordan goes, Hey, I'll give

30:12

you a thirty million for four consecutive

30:15

years, he probably thought, Wait, Geordan's

30:17

gonna give me four years at thirty

30:20

thirty million dollars total. All right,

30:22

I'll consider that. No, No, thirty million

30:24

each year? What per what?

30:28

What? Yes? I'll

30:30

take that. Mike, uh,

30:32

Paul and Iowa, Hi Paul, thanks for holding

30:34

best and worst of the weekend. Hey,

30:38

two best of the weekend, both from

30:40

Iowa. First off, Iowa State blanks

30:42

Kansas State forty five

30:45

zero. Breese Hall staffs

30:47

hold up against any Heisman candidate per

30:50

game this year if you look at it. Other best

30:52

of the weekend an hour south of where that game was played

30:55

is where Kyle Corbs from in Pella, Iowa.

30:57

And he's going to Vatican City to

30:59

talk to the Pope with the other NBA

31:02

players for social justice. Thanks

31:04

all right, Well, thank you, Paul. That's

31:06

a road trip going to the Vatican

31:09

there. I did not know that. Yeah, the Gordon

31:11

Hayward deal and went whoa, Jason

31:14

Tatum got paid, Donovan Mitchell

31:16

got paid, Anthony Davis

31:18

is going to get paid. But I

31:20

like what the Lakers did, even

31:23

getting Marcus Saul. You

31:27

know, Shrewder coming in

31:30

Harold, you get him from the Clippers. They

31:33

got younger, they got better. I

31:35

like it. I like it a

31:37

lot. Yeah, mclovin, quick case for Gordon

31:39

Hayward. This is not based on eyeballs, but I did

31:42

look up his sets. He shot fifty percent from the

31:44

field. That's really really good for a wing player.

31:46

But he was like the fourth option there Ray in

31:49

Boston. Well, you're gonna bank

31:51

on him being healthy, and

31:54

you know, maybe he's snake bit in a

31:56

little bit. But four years, one twenty

31:59

eight million dollars. He signed that with

32:01

the Celtics in twenty seventeen. At

32:03

the time, he's twenty seven years of age. He was

32:05

an All Star and had a

32:07

great medical history. Since

32:09

then, he's missed one hundred and eleven regular season

32:11

games, thirty one playoff games, and

32:14

he's also three years older. They

32:18

gave him a four year, one hundred twenty million

32:20

dollars contract. Wow,

32:24

okay, Yeah, mclough Mannix had

32:26

a tweet about how if you can shoot, you're

32:28

getting a lot of money, because he put out Joe Harris

32:31

and Davis Burton's and bogged out about it all

32:33

getting like eighteen to twenty millions of dead. Yeah,

32:36

you missed your window, I know by a long

32:38

shot. You know who's gonna get paid. Duncan

32:41

Robinson of the Miami Heat. I

32:44

don't know if he's eligible next year.

32:47

Duncan Robinson, who

32:49

was a Division three player Williams

32:53

College, could end up making twenty

32:55

five million dollars a year. I

32:58

mean, Joe Harris got paid. Duncan

33:00

Robinson is one

33:02

of the top five three point shooters

33:04

in the game. Kids,

33:07

learn how to shoot a three. You don't have to dunk. Just

33:10

learn how to shoot. That's

33:13

all you need to do. Just be

33:15

able to get the shot off. Shoot the three. Don't

33:18

need to worry about duncan trust

33:20

me, dunking

33:22

doesn't mean you could play. Yes, mcclu

33:24

can you ask Mannix who some of these people who've got sixty

33:27

million dollars contracts are. I'm be like at

33:29

the Jeremy Grants. Some Malik Beasley's to

33:31

Christian Woods. Well, Christian

33:33

Woods was in Detroit. Yeah, and he's actually

33:35

a good player. Yea, yeah, I signed

33:37

with Houston. There. Let me get another

33:39

phone call in here, Kyle in California. Kyle,

33:42

always great to hear from you. What do you have for me today?

33:45

ADP this

33:47

weekend? Oh my goodness, holds me

33:49

off no worse. The Cowboys

33:51

unbelievable. I can't believe it. The Lakers

33:54

went from let me say this, Dwight

33:56

Howard, Dovell McGhee, Danny

33:58

Green and Rosan Rondo and turn that into

34:01

Dennis Schroeder, Montrese, Harold

34:03

Marcus sol and Wesley Matthews and

34:05

everybody. Oh, Montrese. He got run off.

34:07

Hey, he's going to be the backup center baby,

34:09

because we got Anthony Davis. So I

34:12

hate to say it, Skip Bayless those all caps

34:14

tweets. He's in trouble Lakers this year.

34:19

Thank you, Kyle. They

34:22

got better. They did,

34:24

they got better. I

34:27

get sneaky that they got better.

34:30

You know the rest of the league is, you

34:32

know they're trying to I said

34:34

this as soon as that confetti came down in Orlando.

34:37

I said, Lebron's thinking, who do I add on this

34:39

roster? I

34:42

swear in my heart, in my gut, I

34:44

feel like at that moment he's got the confetti

34:46

coming down, he goes, all right, who am I going to

34:48

say goodbye to on this roster? Somebody

34:51

get my phone. I gotta start calling people here.

34:55

But you get a chance to play with him, Anthony

34:58

Davis chance win

35:01

a championship. I was surprised

35:03

that Montrez Harrold came, you know,

35:06

from one side of the building to the other side of the building.

35:08

It's a nice pickup for them.

35:11

And then you get shrewder in there, got

35:13

younger. I hate losing

35:15

Rondo just because of the postseason,

35:19

losing Avery Bradley, But I

35:21

think the Lakers did pretty well. Yeah, Pong, It's not like

35:23

you have to worry about facing Rhindo in the playoffs next

35:25

year though, with the Hawks no offense.

35:29

Let's take a break. We'll give you our best and worst

35:31

of the weekend run after this. Thanks for listening to

35:33

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35:47

Oh mclovin just compared Rush

35:50

to Ario Speedwagon.

35:53

Yes, the song fly by Night, which

35:55

Paul is of course talking about Rush,

35:58

and he played the song fly by Night. It's got

36:00

a little Ario Speedway. It's a bit poppy for Rush.

36:04

Is that bad to be Ario Speedwagon? That's the debate

36:06

over here. So

36:10

this is fly by Night from Rush.

36:13

I know what he's saying. Kevin Cronin from Rio

36:16

Speedwagon and early Getty

36:19

Lee have high pitched voices,

36:36

all right. I

36:40

could I could hear Kevin Cronin

36:42

singing this. I

36:45

don't know if I would you dare compare? I don't know. If I'd

36:48

pick this, I'll say I couldn't choose

36:50

between I can't can't fight this feeling

36:52

or keep on loving you or take it on the run.

36:55

What about heard it from a friend? Who from

37:00

a friend? Okay,

37:03

another human listen around fantastic

37:13

falsetto prog rock the

37:15

scary part. If Todd likes it,

37:18

it's not any good, It's incredible,

37:21

all right. Neil

37:23

Parrott, the drummer from

37:25

Rush, the recently

37:28

deceased Neil Perrott. You could buy his drum

37:31

kit from the early seventies for a round

37:33

one hundred thousand dollars in auction. Sounds

37:35

like a good investment, Paulie, Like

37:37

I said, I mean my kids. College

37:40

is overrated. My kids do not need to go to college.

37:42

Community college. Here, I come, see's good degree.

37:44

Yes they do. Let's go around the room with

37:46

the best and worst of the weekend, Todd, start with

37:48

you best of the weekend. Backup quarterback cade

37:51

McNamara and Michigan coming back to win forty

37:53

eight forty two and triple overtime at Rutgers,

37:55

Wolverine's third largest comeback winning school

37:57

history. McNamara two hundred sixty yards forty

38:00

these no picks also ran in for a touchdown.

38:02

Worst Kentucky, North Alabama,

38:04

and Kansas State. I'm looping them all together because

38:06

they lost by a combined score of one hundred and

38:09

seventy four to seventeen to

38:11

Alabama, BYU and Iowa State.

38:13

Yeah. I don't know if that was a good thing for Michigan

38:15

to barely beat Rutgers. But

38:18

is that where we are? Which it's better

38:20

than losing, but it felt like, hey,

38:23

we beat Rutgers. Yeah

38:26

in overtime. Mclove in

38:28

best and worst that is actually gonna be a losing

38:30

quarterback. Derek Carr is like amazing

38:32

now he's played well, extremely well. I'm surprised.

38:35

It seems like him and Gruden worse is

38:37

obviously going to be the Browns Eagles.

38:39

But one aspect, do the Browns if they

38:41

played nine straight games in a monsoon or is it

38:43

every time I turn on a Browns game, like nobody could

38:45

catch because the wind and the rain are coming

38:47

down. Yep. Weather has been an issue there

38:50

for them. They've done well with it. But you

38:52

know, when they win, nobody talks about the Browns. You

38:55

notice that when

38:57

there's certain teams, when the Cowboys

39:00

win, then there's no nothing to really

39:02

talk about unless you go, are they the team to beat

39:04

in the NMC's okay?

39:08

But when the Browns win, we

39:10

just move on. Talking

39:13

heads, just move on. Nothing to talking. But they lose,

39:15

bad Baker Mayfield, you gotta

39:17

lose a job, sen Connor

39:20

Best and worse My best of the weekend. It's

39:22

kind of be an overshadow because of the Joe Burrow injury.

39:25

But how about Alex Smith getting his first to win as a starter

39:27

seven hundred and forty two days. That's a

39:30

major moment for that dude. Yep, h

39:32

Paul Bestnu Worse. Worst of the weekend

39:35

the refs at the end of the Purdue Minnesota game on

39:37

Friday night, a really good game in Minnesota, one

39:39

thirty four thirty one. Perdue got

39:41

called for offensive pass interference on

39:43

a late touchdown that would have basically won them the game.

39:46

It's a mystery of what they called there, and people were pretty upset,

39:48

especially Purdue fans. Best of the

39:50

weekend kind of is Northwestern Wildcats

39:53

beating Wisconsin seventeen seven. Northwestern's

39:55

five and oh they've got Michigan State, Minnesota,

39:58

and Illinois to run the table and

40:00

of course the big dentitle game. The only negative is

40:02

the the insufferable Northwestern

40:05

media members sports media members that went to

40:07

Northwestern over the next few weeks. If

40:09

Northwestern goes undefeated, as much as I want

40:11

Northwestern to their their alumni

40:14

can be insufferable. So it's Michael Wilbon

40:16

and Mike Greenberg, Darren Mabel and Darren Real

40:18

Stewart Mandel. But

40:22

when Northwestern plays, well, that's

40:24

tough. Yeah. Does Penn State

40:26

play Michigan this weekend? I

40:29

think? How

40:32

good is that? I

40:35

think? I think that might be the schedules

40:37

that sound right mclen eleven, twenty eight,

40:39

twelve pm. Penn State is now scheduled

40:41

for Michigan. I like it. H Carter

40:43

in Washington, Hey Carter, what's on your mind? Hey

40:48

Carter, Hey Dan, Hey Dann

40:50

you're there? Yeah, Carter, Hey

40:52

Dan? Second time, long time five five

40:55

one twenty nine. Unfortunately

40:59

four tons heavier than last time. But

41:02

that's the worse of a LinkedIn. My best is I

41:04

ordered the Dan Patrick show calendar. Did

41:06

you get it yet? Worse? So

41:09

here's the deal. Here's my worst is.

41:11

I recently moved and I changed my address,

41:13

so I was expecting that Friday came back

41:15

from a nice day on the golf course, was gonna

41:17

have my Dan Patrick's show calendar. And

41:20

because I forwarded my address, it's

41:22

now delayed. So that was my mistake and

41:25

it would be so worth it though, Carter, Oh,

41:28

I'm so ready. Hey Dan, I also want

41:30

to thank you for putting the Washington State Patrol patch

41:32

up. Love it, and I'll leave

41:35

you with this suck it back row. Okay,

41:37

that's Carter. The calendar.

41:39

We're not giving any hints on the pictures

41:41

in the calendar this year. You just

41:44

have to come to trust us that it's

41:46

going to be a lot of nudity and

41:50

it's it's definitely you

41:52

know what I would do. I would preview it before i'd show

41:54

the kids. Let's just put it that there. There's

41:57

there's one in there in particular

42:00

or that I wasn't quite sure, but

42:02

I just said, yep, I'm gonna sign off on this

42:04

one. It was a little bit more skin

42:06

then I think this person planned a show.

42:09

But hey, it's all about

42:11

the views, it's all about content. It's

42:13

I candy. Yeah. Point, if you're working in an office,

42:16

maybe don't put it up where the HR people can

42:18

see in walking. Yeah. Yeah,

42:20

see so you had said it's a little

42:22

more skin than that person had planned to show. So I

42:24

haven't seen any of the pictures still. Yeah, but wouldn't

42:26

that person have control over exactly how much

42:28

skin they showed? No, man like, you can't

42:30

like the picture. Can't accidentally end up in

42:33

the calendar, can it? Yes?

42:35

Oh, because a lot of pictures

42:37

were taken for this month,

42:40

Oh dear, and I have final

42:42

approval. Oh so you did this, Yes I

42:44

didn't. Yes. So if you want some

42:46

man candy, you got it. That's

42:48

the selling point with the Dan Patrick show

42:51

calendar coming up. Chris Mannox. On

42:53

the weekend, the Lakers had What's Michael Jordan

42:55

Doing