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Friday, November twenty seven,

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Black Friday. Rob how you

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doing man, I'm doing great, Jason.

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Happy Thanksgiving. Hope you and the family

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had a great time

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together. I know we weren't having a

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big get togethers, but family is still

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good, right and food? Did you have a good one,

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No doubt about it. Rob We've you

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know, been quarantining with several other families

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locally, and uh, you know, we got together for

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a little healthy, socially

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distanced Thanksgiving a lot of fun. Too bad

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the football stunk. I'm glad

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you said that because that's one of my things.

2:08

Everybody's always random, Raven, how great the

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NFL is. The football was horrible

2:12

yesterday to watch. And every

2:15

NFL game is not great, and we saw

2:17

that yesterday. But Jason, you did

2:19

say today's Black Friday. I did have to tell

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you that every Friday's Black

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Friday for me. I just want you to know. I

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see I follow you on social media, see

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all you shopping up, buy your Jordans

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and flossing with all your big, big

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money and having fun and spending it. I'm

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not as spendthrift as you are, Robbed. So

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when you're married, you got a couple of kids,

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you know, I'm at a different point in life. You know

2:43

what I mean. Yeah, you got

2:45

you got the good life. You got the good life with

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the family and the kids. I'm just a you

2:50

know, bachelor trying to find some time

2:52

in Vegas or you know what I mean, trying

2:54

to get a little enjoyment out of a pair

2:57

of sneakers or something. But I'm

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must admit, you know, obviously

3:02

people aren't shopping the way that they used

3:04

to. You know, like this used to be crazy.

3:06

People used to get up at four o'clock in the morning,

3:08

Jason, you know and head to

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the stores. Right. Obviously

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that's not the case. So I

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don't I don't even know if I'm shopping at all

3:18

today. It'll be interesting. On the drive

3:20

in here to the studio, I drove by a game

3:22

stop video game shot people

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outside. That was the only place I saw

3:26

where there was a huddle. There was like fifteen people. I guess

3:28

they're trying to get the new PlayStation

3:31

five or whatever it is, right, video games for their

3:33

kids. But here's my deal, I just get everything online

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now, don't you Most of the most

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of the stuff I still enjoy I do,

3:40

like going out to the mall once in a while

3:42

just to walk around, don't you like to you

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know what I mean, I get it. It's so convenient.

3:47

The only thing is buying clothes. Sometimes,

3:50

you know, they look nice in the you

3:52

know, the display or whatever or online,

3:55

and then you get it at home and then to try it on,

3:58

they don't always fit. So sometimes you like

4:00

to buy clothes when I need to

4:02

try it on and see what it looks like. I know everything

4:04

else. Yeah, I knew a lot of my gambling online

4:07

as well, and I was ready to fire on the Baltimore

4:09

Ravens. Yes, I was going to back them against

4:11

Pittsburgh last night. I

4:14

know that sounds crazy. Who's been in Baltimore

4:16

right now? I would have been on Baltimore as well. I agree

4:18

with you, because there's seasons

4:20

on the brink, Jason. They really

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needed to win that game. That's

4:26

how big it is, because right now, if

4:28

the playoffs started there on the outside looking

4:30

in, you know, so they needed that

4:33

when. But obviously the big news, of

4:35

course is Lamar

4:37

Jackson Lamar Jacksonville. I

4:40

mean, what a fault, what a precipitous fall

4:42

this has been for Lamar and Rob. You know, I

4:44

do my daily podcast, Straight Fire, and

4:46

about four weeks into the season, I noticed

4:48

something was off with Lamar and I

4:50

started, you know, taking some shots. I'm like, this guy's

4:53

not throwing for two hundred yards. Defenses are starting

4:55

to catch up with him. And I sort of compared

4:57

what happened to him with Colin Kaepernick.

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If you remember, they have the same offensive coordinator,

5:02

Greg Roman and Kaepernick. The first

5:04

time he came in in San Frand with

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Jim Harball as the head coach, he was lights out.

5:08

They went all the way to the super Bowl. And don't and

5:10

don't forget this. Yeah,

5:12

ron Jiwarski, you know, the former

5:14

NFL quarterback and analysts went

5:17

gaga over Colin Kaepernick in

5:19

the beginning. If you remember Jason, he said

5:22

he could be the greatest quarterback ever. That's

5:24

how, you know what I mean. He came out of

5:26

the box and was almost unstoppable.

5:28

But people get film on you and then they

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adjust, and then the big thing

5:33

is always you have to readjust

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you know what I mean, Like like after they

5:37

kind of figure you out a little bit and what your tendencies

5:40

are. That doesn't mean it happens to everybody.

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This is not just about Lamar Jackson. This

5:44

is about everybody. And you try to figure out

5:47

what can we do to alter

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the guy. I don't know that it's about everybody. I'm

5:53

just saying, Manning, you couldn't adjust for nobody's

5:55

adjusted for Patrick Mahomes. Ye know what I'm

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saying. But but you know what he does. And all

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I'm saying is you try. I'm not saying

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you're gonna be successful. It's

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like Mariano Rivera when he pitched for the Yankees.

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The cutter's coming, and guess what, Nobody

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can hit the cutter right his whole career.

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So so don't get me wrong, I

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just I've watched Lamar and I don't

6:16

want to say he's got happy feet in the pocket. And I'm not

6:19

fully blaming Lamar, but when you look

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at his receiving corps, it's

6:23

it's laughable. And Rob. I mean, seriously,

6:26

let's look at the other teams with the quarterbacks on their

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rookie deal. Josh Allen Buffalo Bills,

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what do they do? We gotta go get him some help. Let's

6:32

get Stefon Diggs. What do the Cardinals

6:34

do. We gotta get Kyler Murray some help, Let's

6:37

get him Hopkins. What has Baltimore done?

6:39

They went out and got Jess Bryant, a

6:41

guy who's been on his sofa like you and I for the

6:43

last two years on Sundays. Yeah, watch Tony

6:45

Football. That's not doing anything for Lamar Jackson.

6:48

But Lamar's not that kind of a passer, So

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receivers like that, why would they want to come

6:53

and play That's not what the game is. When

6:56

when he's doing what he's doing,

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which was being in unit Adam's MVP last

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year, it wasn't about long passes.

7:03

It was about him running, setting

7:05

up and then if you remember go back to last

7:08

year, a great game for him

7:10

would be like fifteen for nineteen,

7:12

you know, two hundred and ten yards. You

7:15

know, like it wasn't like he was

7:17

thrown for four hundred yards or anything. He

7:19

was hard to stop and it

7:21

wasn't about the receivers. It was about him.

7:23

And that's why I think it's harder

7:26

to go out and get a big time receiver when this

7:28

guy's not slinging the ball all over the place.

7:30

True, but if you ask Stefan Diggs, hey

7:32

man, do you want to go to Buffalo and play with Josh

7:35

Allen, It's like, why would

7:37

I want to do that? I got I'm with Kirk Cousins, but

7:39

he had a falling out with Cousins, if you remember,

7:41

on the sideline, very unhappy. But I

7:44

don't totally blame it on Lamar Jackson.

7:46

I also blame the offensive coordinator Roman

7:48

who has not adjusted and Rob last

7:50

year they would throw to set up

7:52

the run, and then the second half they would just run

7:55

over teams with that offense. And

7:57

Lamar passed for over three thousand yards

7:59

last year I think was, if not

8:01

the first, the second player in NFL history three

8:03

thousand yards passing, one thousand yards rushing.

8:05

Well, yeah, Kyler rushing part. Kyler

8:07

Murray's gonna go for four thousand this year passing

8:10

and a thousand rushing. And you know,

8:12

I asked this question to the people, like who

8:15

would you rather have going forward the next three years,

8:17

Kyler Murray or Lamar Jackson. Well,

8:20

I mean that's it's easy, right, Well

8:22

that's easy to say now because of where

8:24

everybody is um and

8:27

and but but Kyler Murray's record, despite

8:30

the numbers you're talking about, I mean, they're

8:32

a hail marry away from being a five

8:34

hundred team. Let's just be honest, Jason, so

8:37

he can pile up the numbers without that

8:39

win in Buffalo, right, because they couldn't

8:41

even follow that that went up against

8:43

Seattle. All I'm saying is, if

8:46

you take away that Hail Murray. I

8:48

don't know if you're saying that, because the

8:50

numbers would be good, but there would be a five hundred

8:52

team but may also play in the toughest division

8:55

in the NFL. It is what it is. I get

8:57

that in the Rams twice. Who

8:59

else I got to see adult twice? You know, you basically

9:01

got two super Bowl contenders there. The forty nine Ers

9:03

went to the super Bowl last year, another beat up this

9:06

year. Totally different. But I'll

9:09

hear you. I hear you. But I'm just saying, let's

9:12

be honest. I mean, they

9:15

could be a five hundred team despite those

9:18

numbers and despite Hopkins. That's where they

9:20

could be. So where do you think that this the

9:22

league goes from here? This? The game as

9:24

of now is still on Raven Steelers

9:26

for Sunday. But I don't see that game. Yeah,

9:28

how can they play that game? I just

9:31

don't. And if I'm Baltimore and

9:34

you know, there's a chance that there could be more

9:36

more players, you know, a few

9:38

more test depositive, and obviously your quarterback,

9:41

your season's on the brink. I mean,

9:43

if I'm if I'm Baltimore, I don't want

9:46

the game to be played. But here's the problem

9:48

with the NFL. Okay, Pittsburgh currently the

9:50

best team in the league, undefeated, and

9:52

they're headed toward maybe home field advantage

9:54

in the playoffs, and you can't have them

9:57

play one less game than the Kansas

9:59

City g And where do you make up this game because

10:01

all the BIE weeks are done so But this is

10:03

where the NFL made a mistake. I think

10:06

coming into the season, the

10:08

notion that you would have a full season

10:11

baseball went from one sixty two Jason

10:13

to sixty. Okay, the NBA played

10:15

less, the NHL played less. The

10:18

NFL should have worked out a

10:20

twelve game schedule with some breaks

10:22

in the schedule. There used to be a

10:24

twelve game NFL season,

10:26

so it's not inconceivable. But

10:28

they needed to leave space so

10:31

that you can make up games. How did they

10:33

think that the coronavirus wasn't going to

10:35

attack the NFL and

10:38

wasn't going to derail a postpone game.

10:40

They left no wiggle room. That's the problem.

10:42

And you're right, So what do you

10:45

do? Do you have to at some point do

10:47

you have to go Jason and go buy winning

10:49

percentage and not having the same amount

10:51

of games played if you can't get

10:53

them in? Are you pushing the Super Bowl

10:55

back to March from April?

10:58

Right? Okay, so this is what I'm saying.

11:00

So how do you make it up? Okay? And god forbid,

11:02

if there's another outbreak on a

11:05

team, what would you do? Well, you know you could

11:07

tell them, hey, this is on you, guys. We're

11:09

not going to penalize the Pittsburgh Steelers for

11:11

doing their job and avoiding COVID and

11:13

being healthy. Okay, Rob, this is not all

11:15

that different from a group

11:18

project in biology in tenth grade

11:20

and one guy doesn't want to do any of the work, doesn't

11:23

want to do anything, He doesn't show up for the meetings, and

11:25

then he says, oh, put my name on that. Well, no, you didn't

11:27

do your part. Well you're not getting it. You're not getting

11:29

credit for this. The Pittsburgh Steelers have done

11:31

their part. They should not be penalized. If

11:34

I'm the NFL, I say, you know what, Baltimore,

11:36

call up some practice squad guys, we're playing

11:38

this game on Sunday. But the only problem

11:40

is, I think you're being very hard on teams

11:42

that are hit by COVID because some people, Jason,

11:45

you gotta be honest, think they're doing

11:47

the right thing and it's not you

11:49

know, it's without malice. They're not a

11:52

purposely going out. But if but if you

11:55

slip up and touch a doorknob or

11:57

you know, or something where you think

11:59

you're doing and everything else right, you

12:02

can still catch it. There's a lot of people who

12:04

have caught it who have thought they were following

12:06

all the protocol. So it's not like you're

12:08

going out to a bar and you don't have a mask

12:11

on. If you're doing that kind of stuff, then I

12:13

got Then I get it, you know, and those people

12:15

should be punished for not following protocol.

12:18

But you gotta be careful not to just paint

12:20

everybody who gets it and says

12:22

that they aren't doing what they're supposed to.

12:24

This is a very contagious thing, right, No,

12:27

No, certainly not blaming anybody forgetting

12:29

it. But it's clear some people are doing

12:31

a better job or trying. I

12:33

mean, you read the story for sure about the Baltimore

12:36

Ravens strength and conditioning coach Okay,

12:38

failed to report symptoms, didn't

12:40

consistently wear his mask or a tracking

12:42

device, and they're saying he is the

12:44

one who could have contributed to all these guys

12:46

on the Ravens catching COVID. I just

12:50

it's tough for me to penalize the Pittsburgh

12:52

Steelers here and screw them over out

12:54

of potentially the number one seed and rob The

12:56

only issue with pushing the season

12:59

back. Let's say you want to start the playoffs

13:01

a week later. Well, most teams will

13:03

sit their starters in week seventeen, right,

13:06

you don't want anybody to get hurt right before the playoffs.

13:08

So then if you sit your starters in your Pittsburgh

13:10

or Casey or whoever in the NFC, and

13:13

then you have the week off, the bye week because

13:15

you're the number one seed, and then you build

13:17

in another week, you're looking at potentially three

13:19

weeks off between when you last

13:22

played, and that's a huge disadvantage.

13:24

And now I'm playing football for three weeks. Yes, And

13:26

also what you enough factor in is

13:29

between now and the end of the season. What

13:31

if there's some more cancelations or post

13:33

you know what I mean, like, like this is if

13:36

everything were to stop right here and now

13:38

the way you just put that scenario out, what

13:40

if there's more and there's other games. So that's what

13:42

I'm saying. So that's why this is a weird one

13:44

because of the Ravens play on Thursday

13:46

night against Dallas. They

13:48

set it up both teams coming off Thanksgiving games.

13:51

So now the Ravens are a huge disadvantage

13:53

in that Thursday game. But at the same time,

13:55

you can't push Sunday's game to Monday. Mostly

13:58

around the league, you could push Sunday game too

14:00

Monday if you need to, even a Tuesday, But

14:03

I just I don't like penalizing those who are

14:05

putting in the time and doing the work and

14:08

they're getting shafted here. I mean, did you

14:10

see how angry the Pittsburgh players were on

14:13

social media when the Ravens all these guys started

14:15

testing. Yeah, I thought that was over the top and insensitive

14:17

given where we are in this country and a

14:20

surge and you know, people

14:22

out of work and people

14:24

dying, and they're belly aching about a football

14:26

game. Jason, I can't get on board. I

14:28

thought it came off looking

14:32

very insensitive to people and very

14:35

look at us. We matter, It's

14:38

all about us. We don't care what's happening.

14:41

There's a surge going on. Do

14:43

they understand what's happening in the country

14:46

they're saying about a damn football game.

14:48

I thought it came off very, very insensitive

14:50

to the masses who

14:54

I don't know that I could disagree with you more there, Rob,

14:56

I mean like they're upset because the

14:59

Baltimore Ravens ruined it for them. Not don't even

15:01

get it, but

15:03

do you see what's happening in the country is on all mask

15:06

and you're Jason like this, this isn't like

15:08

everything else around around the

15:10

world and around this country has

15:12

uh has slowed down and things were great

15:15

and you know as far as the numbers going down,

15:17

and then the Ravens were were reckless

15:20

and they did something. No, there's a surge

15:22

happening everywhere. That's all I'm saying

15:24

is it just sounds like big babies. That

15:27

sounds like, what do you want

15:29

everything to do? Shut You want to go full shut down

15:31

again? No, I'm just saying, you

15:33

gotta everything is fluid and you gotta

15:35

roll with it. You can't belly ache

15:38

that you can't play a football game. That's all

15:40

I'm saying. It just comes off on social

15:42

media. If you can think about what you're putting

15:44

out. Isn't that what social media is for, just belly

15:46

aching and whining and yelling at people and being

15:49

angry. So, Calais Campbell of the ravens,

15:51

um, I guess you know the league is

15:53

pushing forward with this game. Uh, this just

15:55

came down here in the last ten minutes. Um.

15:58

Apparently the NFL petition

16:00

Committee is adding roster flexibility

16:02

right, sixteen man practice squads, unlimited

16:05

IR and they're saying, hey,

16:07

we may just have to play. Calais Campbell says,

16:09

we just want to contain this outbreak. Speaking

16:12

from experience, you don't want to catch

16:14

COVID. This virus is brutal. I pray

16:16

no one else has to go through this. This is bigger than football,

16:18

which is echoing a lot of what you're saying. Yeah, I'm

16:21

not saying that this is not a big deal.

16:23

Bro. I've been when we were at the Super

16:25

Bowl together, Rob Righty, Fox hosted

16:27

the Super Bowl in January and COVID was

16:29

just starting to pop in.

16:32

I believe it was Seattle, and I

16:34

got nervous. I called my dad, who lives down

16:36

there in Florida. I said, yo, Dad, I went to a couple of

16:38

stores. I can't find an N

16:40

ninety five mask. Can you look for one? And

16:43

he's in Fort Lauderdale. He drives to a bunch of stores,

16:45

find some at like home depot.

16:48

Twenty minutes later away, I drive

16:50

up to Lauderdale, get the N ninety five mask,

16:52

I get gloves, and I go on the plane on

16:54

the way back from the super Bowl and people

16:57

would look at me like I'm a nut job, Like wait, you're

16:59

wearing mask and gloves on an airplate. And there

17:01

were a couple other masks, and

17:03

um, I just I just was

17:06

like, I don't want to take a chance. I haven't

17:08

flown since the middle

17:10

of February. Rob, we went to we went on a quick

17:12

getaway after the football season. We do it every

17:14

year, and we flew out to Cabo and

17:17

by the time we got back, it was like, all right,

17:19

everything's headed toward a shutdown. And

17:21

Rob, we're very serious about this. I mean, I don't mess

17:24

around. I'm always wearing masks. We haven't been

17:26

really in anybody's house. Nobody's

17:28

been in our house. You know, we're doing our best

17:30

job to stay safe out there. But we

17:33

saw the NBA successful with the bubble. I

17:35

don't Can you get a bubble for the NFL playoffs? Rop?

17:38

Can that happen? That's a

17:40

good question. I possibly, especially

17:42

if you're not doing a fans

17:45

aren't going to be a part of it, you know what I mean, if

17:47

you can just say to yourself, we're gonna take

17:49

the l on the fans. I noticed some teams have

17:51

had fans or whatnot. I mean, does the Cowboys

17:53

have yesterday? Did they have

17:55

twenty something like that?

17:58

Yeah? Yeah, people showed up, man, and I

18:00

give them credit. I went to the World

18:02

Series in Dallas, you know, at the New Stadium

18:04

there, and I was there

18:06

for and they only had twelve thousand

18:08

and people all had their gloves on and

18:11

their masks. I didn't have any issue, man. I

18:13

thought it was well done. They took your

18:16

temperature when you came in, you know what I mean, Jason

18:18

like it was. It was well done. Yeah.

18:21

So so we got a lot of fun stuff coming up. You

18:23

know, Rob Parker, his best friend Tom

18:25

Brady, you guys all, Yes, Bruce

18:27

Arians is my man, Bruce Arians

18:29

calling out Tom Brady's arians,

18:32

not Bellie Brady struggle will get

18:34

to that. I don't know. I might, I

18:36

might brag a little bit about how could my gambling

18:38

picks have been With the exception of Thanksgiving,

18:41

we'll do a little NFL Week twelve

18:43

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app by searching f s

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R, or stream us live on the

19:27

Peacock Act. Rob and I have hosted

19:29

plenty of shows together, usually the first

19:31

hour of Smooth Sailing, and then we start arguing

19:33

about something, whether it's Ron being

19:35

the greatest of all time, Tom Brady

19:37

being the greatest of all time. I don't know. Rob will find

19:39

something to get angry about, but on one thing we agree.

19:42

Rob and I grew up as journalists,

19:44

right, newspaper guys. And

19:48

it's kind of an industry that's struggling a lot

19:50

right now as the media landscape

19:52

is shifting online

19:55

journalism as a thing. And you know, we got a guest

19:57

coming up right here who was at

19:59

Bleacher Rapport and he just launched a pretty cool

20:02

long form football journalism site.

20:04

His name is Tyler Dunn. Tye, Good morning man,

20:06

how are you welcome to the show? Good

20:09

morning fellas man. Great to be here,

20:11

Thanks so much for having me. Yeah, thanks

20:13

for joining us. And you know, it's pretty

20:15

clear reading your stuff, really enjoy

20:17

it. It's the sites golong tv dot

20:20

com. You know, Tye, I was

20:22

digging into your Josh Allen story and we just don't

20:24

see that anymore. We don't see

20:26

these long pieces where you could really sink

20:28

your teeth into it and learn something because

20:31

you know, we've we've heard about the attention span

20:33

of everybody, and people click on

20:36

outrageous stuff, they don't really click on

20:38

smart stuff. I don't know. I talk to

20:40

us about what your endeavor

20:42

was and what you plan to do here, no

20:45

doubt, Jason, I mean, you just nailed it. I'm

20:47

hoping that this is really a niche

20:49

out there. I've just seen where sports

20:52

media, you know, in terms of the written word is going.

20:55

Obviously it's it's kind of going to

20:58

one hundred forty character bite just

21:01

memes takes that

21:03

that's where everything is

21:05

is kind of going, I guess in twenty twenty and beyond.

21:07

So just just seeing that direction

21:10

and wanting to, you know, maybe

21:12

bet on myself a little bit and seeing others

21:14

have success with this, it just seemed like the right timing,

21:17

and I think it was the right timing too. Um just

21:19

at this point in my career kind of covering this

21:21

league for a little over a decade and having a lot of

21:23

relationships from being

21:25

at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinell covering the Packers

21:27

to the Bills at the Buffalo News and and Bleach

21:29

Report, by doing the whole NFL here as a futures

21:32

driver for four and a half years or

21:34

so, I just thought it was like an in a spot

21:36

where I could kind of take this plunge

21:38

into self employment and just you

21:41

know, do these long form stories, whether it's the inner

21:43

workings of the team, like uh, kind of

21:45

like the Packers story. We did a Bleach Report a couple

21:47

of years ago to in depth profile

21:49

sitting down with guys that the reception

21:51

has been unbelievable. I've been reached

21:53

out to a lot of players and they're all about it. So I'm

21:56

just hoping to put this out there and if if folks want

21:58

to get on board and subscribe and they

22:00

like it, I think it's it's got a lot of potential.

22:03

Hopeful. I'm gonna say, I

22:06

don't think that this is a bad idea

22:08

from this standpoint that sixty

22:10

minutes has been around since nineteen sixty eight

22:13

and it's long form journalism

22:15

on television that people always thought people

22:17

had no attention span for. But

22:20

if you do good stuff and you

22:22

and you really dive into stuff that's

22:24

interesting people who like to

22:26

read and are you know, interested

22:28

in stuff, and all you need is

22:30

a solid base

22:33

of those people, you know what I mean. There's a lot

22:35

of fringe people who just aren't going to be interested

22:37

in it, and that's fine. It's not for everybody,

22:40

but I think there's a place here. What's

22:43

the game plan? As far as you said

22:45

people can subscribe, you know,

22:48

how do how do people subscribe? How much does it

22:50

cost? And then you know, how

22:52

often are you putting out these kind of pieces,

22:54

you know what I mean, where people can actually

22:57

chime in. And that's a great

22:59

question and it's definitely what I wrestled with

23:01

too. You know, how do you kind of uh

23:04

make this work, you know, in terms of a

23:06

publication, and they can they can subscribe

23:09

right on the website, like you said, it's golong

23:11

td dot com on subsex

23:14

platform, which has just been fantastic

23:16

us and right now our rate is seven

23:19

dollars a month, you know, a couple couple cups

23:21

of coffee or seventy dollars a year, and

23:24

early on I am opening up stories

23:26

for free just so folks can kind of get a sense

23:29

for the type of stories I'm gonna do.

23:31

Obviously, they can subscribe at anytime. Not

23:33

going to discourage that, but uh yeah, just

23:36

check this out and if you like it subscribed,

23:38

you can get on the email list free

23:40

or paid at any time. And in terms

23:43

of the cadence of everything, I

23:45

think, I'm not think, I know this

23:47

is what it's gonna be on Mondays where we are

23:49

going to have from type of feat

23:51

three analysis wrap up of everything

23:53

you saw on Sundays and then once they get

23:55

into an extended Q

23:58

and A with a current player, a

24:00

former player, somebody who's is just gonna be honest

24:02

and maybe say something really from the heart,

24:04

say something they really they really believe. Thursday,

24:07

we will do a player profile, uh,

24:10

somebody that just has something interesting to

24:12

say, has an interesting story that's different

24:14

from the minusia that you may get out there. And then

24:16

Friday will be our signature piece. I think every

24:18

Friday I want to put out something that hopefully

24:22

has folks, you know, opening up and stop

24:24

what they're doing and want to read it so well.

24:26

Like I said, if it's a niche, it's not for

24:28

everybody. Maybe they watched the click

24:30

out on social media, but I'm hoping there's still folks

24:32

out there. I think there there

24:34

are. Let me Jason jumping again with

24:37

I've need you guys to do a

24:39

full blown interworkings

24:42

piece on the pitiful Detroit

24:44

Lions who have won one playoff

24:46

game since nineteen fifty seven. And

24:49

what is the issue. You

24:51

know, football supposed to be about parody

24:53

and it doesn't take you long to go from worse

24:56

to first and you know what I mean, if

24:58

you play your cards right, But

25:00

there's got to be an into working story

25:02

about the Lions and why

25:04

this thing hasn't worked for decades. You

25:08

know what. The Lions to me are

25:11

are just really similar to even the Vikings

25:13

in the division, which we'll have a story

25:15

on the Vikings coming out later today,

25:17

but just a team that it's like you kind

25:19

of can convince yourself that you're a contender,

25:22

right, Like, I get it. The pressure

25:24

to win now is is so high, especially with Matt

25:26

petrisibab plant. You know, there's nine

25:28

fans that have been wrestless for a while, so they want to

25:30

win now, so they take a cornerback first

25:32

instead of a quarterback, which in retrospect,

25:35

I think everybody would have to agree, right, you

25:38

hit reset every possible way,

25:41

coach GM quarterback sometimes

25:44

it's best, and you know, every ownership

25:46

group is kind of different with how they approach it.

25:48

But in terms of the Vikings

25:50

and the Lions, I'm looking back in retrospect,

25:54

it would have been wise just to completely

25:56

start over, because you can, you can get caught

25:58

into no man's land when there are seven

26:00

and nine, six and ten and and just the

26:02

same problems coming up. And yeah you got him at

26:04

Stafford, Yeah you got a Kirk cousins. You're gonna win

26:07

some games, But I

26:09

don't know. It'd be hard to look in

26:11

the mirror and make that decision as

26:13

an owner. But sometimes that the hardest

26:16

decisions are of the right decisions. Ty Let

26:18

me ask you this. So you had mentioned

26:20

about the issues with journalism

26:22

going forward. So I was in newspapers.

26:25

I went to college. I was like, oh, I love newspapers.

26:27

I had internships. By the time

26:29

I got out of college, the Internet had kind of popped.

26:32

I spent like two or three years in newspapers

26:34

and realized, like, listen, this is there's no money in this.

26:36

I can't make a living wage of

26:38

working in a newspaper. And I got you

26:40

know, I got into magazines and started the website the big

26:42

lead and ended up selling it. Got kind of lucky there.

26:45

But social media seems

26:47

to have really changed things. Back in like two thousand

26:49

and five, two thousand and six, social

26:51

media was not a huge thing. Facebook was kind

26:53

of on campuses. There was no Twitter yet. How

26:56

much do you think social media has changed

26:58

the journalism game, and do you

27:00

think it's just too far gone that you

27:02

know, legacy magazines like Sports

27:05

Illustrated and you know, waking up to read

27:07

the newspaper in the morning. That stuff is just over

27:09

and it's all gonna be online now. It's

27:13

funny. Here do you say that, Jason? Because I

27:15

can remember being a therapuse. This

27:17

would have been two thousand and nine and it was

27:19

like a public speaking class, and I take

27:22

for the for whatever we were doing that day. I

27:25

was talking about Twitter. It introducing

27:27

what Twitter was to the class, and two

27:29

people in like a class of twenty even knew

27:31

what it was. A lot of changed

27:33

in the decades since then. And I

27:36

to answer your question, it

27:38

is it can be demoralizing for

27:40

somebody like myself, Like like you may

27:42

believe too, is that somebody who likes to read and

27:45

consume information and content,

27:48

it can be demoralized. And then it's just no,

27:51

it's a free flow of takes, a

27:53

free flow of just it's just

27:55

trying to be funny. And don't get

27:57

me wrong, there's a lot of folks on there who are and

28:00

have things to say and joke around about. And

28:03

before you know it, you're clicking around and you just

28:05

waste it an hour, two hours. When I

28:07

don't know a good story, it might

28:09

take twenty minutes to read twenty five minutes

28:12

to read it. It is. It can

28:14

be kind of depressing that more

28:16

people seem to be going towards the former

28:18

when you think that, you know, I don't

28:20

want to sit down and read something, well, you just waste

28:22

the time, just screwed around on Twitter or

28:25

Facebook or Instagram. Yeah,

28:27

you're right. Are people waking up in the morning finding

28:29

a newspaper torn a cup of coffee

28:32

and just kind of reading it, you know, outside

28:34

on the deck. Probably not. But

28:36

I think there's still a lot of folks out there who if

28:39

it's good, if you build it and it's good,

28:41

they'll come. If it's a good story and it's worth

28:43

reading and it gets shared, and hey,

28:45

that's where Twitter is amazing. I mean,

28:48

you can share stuff that is good and it's

28:50

going to reach a lot of folks, a lot of eyeballs. I

28:53

still think people will sacrifice

28:55

that time and view that time

28:57

as worth it to read, so that

29:00

that's absolutely going to be the aim heres. It's

29:02

just trying to try to tell stories that are

29:04

worth your time. And like we had the other

29:06

day with The Bill's owner, Terry

29:09

for gool of coveting Patrick Mahomes Loving Patrick

29:11

Mahomes almost drafting Patrick Mahomes and

29:14

they didn't do it. And here they got Josh Allen and there's

29:16

a lot of press around him. I hope these are the kind of

29:18

stories that the folks we'll want to read. I

29:21

still believe that there's a place for good

29:23

journalism. I don't believe that

29:25

like the New York Times, the La Times,

29:27

the Boston Globe, the Washington Post, great

29:29

newspapers will always be around, just

29:32

Jason in a different form,

29:35

and as soon as they can figure out how

29:37

to make money off the Internet. And that's

29:39

still what people are still trying to figure

29:41

out. Because even if you're on Twitter and

29:43

people are giving away, yes

29:46

you might be reaching a lot of people and whatnot,

29:48

but you're giving away your information and you're

29:50

giving away right for no cost

29:52

to most people and until they can

29:55

figure out how to monetize

29:57

it, and

29:59

then and they will figure it out. Because

30:01

when I was in the newspaper business and the internet

30:04

first started and they were giving away

30:06

the newspaper online back then, I

30:08

was like, I don't understand it. If this was a

30:10

bakery and you're giving away to bread will

30:13

be out of business. How are you giving away you

30:15

know your content, because they thought the

30:17

newspaper itself was

30:20

the product, not the content, do you

30:22

know what I mean? That's what they thought was what

30:24

was the product. So I think that

30:26

there's room for good journalism

30:29

and good luck because I

30:31

do believe there are people out there who want

30:33

knowledge. I appreciate

30:35

it, man. I guess that's where sub Stack I'm hoping

30:37

is is ahead of the curve with it's

30:39

you know, there's no advertising, there's really no corporate

30:42

overlords. It's direct, you

30:44

know, consumer producer.

30:46

You're you are giving the reader

30:49

your stuff. If they like it, they'll pay for it.

30:51

If they don't, they don't have to. And I kind

30:53

of like that simplicity. So I really appreciate it,

30:55

guys. Thanks for letting me spread the word here, all

30:57

right, ty Dunn follow him on social media at

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tea why do you n any and

31:02

sign up for his football long

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form journalism sub Stack newsletter.

31:06

It sounds awesome, Tie, and I'll be signing up

31:08

today. Thanks a lot, man, awesome,

31:11

Thanks so much, guys. Appreciate it, all

31:13

right, He's Tyler done. Listen, Rob, You and

31:15

I grew up on newspapers,

31:18

man. I would remember my dad would wake up to go to work

31:20

every morning. He had a government job, and he would

31:22

leave it about like, you know, five forty five six,

31:24

and I would wake up at six o'clock. He would bring the

31:27

newspaper in and the first thing I would say was,

31:29

Hey, Daddy, can I get the sports section? And

31:31

Rob, you know what he would tell me every day. You

31:33

know, Jason, you need to read more than just I

31:36

know you like sports, you play sports. And

31:39

I was always reluctant and Rob. All

31:41

I've done in the last fifteen years, like

31:44

I try to read books that are not sports.

31:47

I span the knowledge. That's the one thing I get.

31:49

These college kids DM me me on Instagram

31:51

every week. Hey Jason, how do you crack in?

31:53

How the heck do you get ahead? And that's what I

31:55

say. I say, listen, you gotta read sports

31:57

stuff, but also read non sports. How much sports

32:00

do you read? No? I read non sports.

32:02

I'm I'm into you know. You know

32:04

me. I'm a world traveler. I love to know about

32:07

the rest of the world, what's going on, things

32:10

happening. But when I was a

32:12

kid growing up in New York, I read

32:14

three newspapers a day. At nine years

32:16

old, Jason, I used to read daily

32:19

news in the morning to school,

32:22

the New York Post on the way home,

32:24

and then I had a paper route. I delivered the

32:26

Long Island Press when I was

32:28

a kid, so I had three. I read

32:30

three newspapers every day, cover to

32:32

cover. You know, one of the issues right now

32:35

is that it feels like news has become

32:37

politicized. If you're not on a side, you

32:39

know, pick a side and go all in

32:41

on that side, then people don't really want to read

32:43

you. I think people there's so many options

32:45

out there, Rob, that people want to read

32:47

there what confirms their thoughts. You

32:50

know, they don't want to read the you know, hey, this

32:52

guy's right down the middle. They don't want that. They want what's

32:54

on their side. I think that's a little troubling. Do

32:56

you not think that, Yes,

32:58

because that's not where supposed to be, you

33:00

know, but but that's where we are. It doesn't mean

33:02

we'll always be there. Things

33:05

can change, you know. What the smart guys do.

33:07

The smart thing to do, Rob is and I

33:09

think this was in the book The Art of War Sun

33:11

Zoo is. You have to know

33:13

your opponent, and in sports, you

33:16

can't just read your side to

33:18

get an appreciation for what the heck is gonna

33:20

happen. You've got to know both sides of the argument.

33:22

Every lawyer who's ever been in a courtroom

33:24

knows, Okay, I know what I'm saying. I know to defend

33:26

my guy, what are they gonna say? So you got to know for

33:28

the other side. I totally agree. I was

33:31

probably one of the biggest Rush Limbaugh

33:33

listeners, you know what I mean. I used to listen

33:36

even though I didn't, you know, follow along with

33:38

his politics. But I didn't want

33:40

to hear both sides. I really did, and what was

33:43

the buzz on the other

33:45

side of the aisle? So I did listen. I

33:47

don't agree with I don't want to hear anything

33:50

that's different from what I believe in our saying

33:52

that, I think that's a crazy world. And that's

33:54

a perfect segue for our next segment. Rob

33:57

Parker thinks the Lions should be banned

33:59

from Thanksgiving and I totally disagree.

34:02

We'll talk about that next year on The Dan Patrick

34:04

Show. I'm Jason McIntyre. He's Rob

34:06

Parker in on a

34:08

Black Friday.

34:20

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34:23

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34:41

I'm just going wrong with that. Are you kidding

34:43

me? He's Rob Parker. We're in for Dan Patrick.

34:46

Dan probably doing some holiday shopping

34:48

early on a Friday morning. I

34:52

can't wait to talk about next hour. Tom

34:55

Brady vers Pat Mahomes, Oh my gosh,

34:57

that game as has fired. Dare Tom Brady

34:59

to walk off and not shake his head? Stop

35:01

it bullets

35:04

for the top of next hour? Um,

35:07

so we we talked about the Thanksgiving

35:09

games. They were not great. The both winning teams

35:11

scored forty one, both losing teams got

35:13

destroyed. Um, but

35:16

Rob wants to He's a Detroit guy, and

35:19

you know he's very anti Matt Patricia. And listen,

35:21

I gotta give it to him. I think Matt Patricia. Isn't he

35:23

the guy who was a rocket scientist Robin

35:27

like a mechanical engineer, some very

35:29

nerdy title that you thought would

35:31

translate into smarts in the NFL.

35:33

I mean, plus, he has a pencil behind his ear, so you

35:35

know he's respected um and

35:38

he's just he's been terrible. And I'm

35:41

an idiot who thought the Lions were a playoff team

35:43

this year. I bet some money on their futures

35:45

to win the division. That didn't

35:47

come close to happening. And

35:50

listen, they've had some COVID injuries there. They

35:52

have not covered the spread once without Kenny

35:54

Galladay, who is incredible, but he's

35:56

ticked off. Yeah, they're oh in five this year against the

35:58

spread without Golliday and he's angry at

36:00

them. I don't know what's going on there behind the scenes. He wanted

36:03

a contract, but the owner is saying,

36:05

hey man, GM and the coach, they're not doing

36:07

anything until they win. So they're gonna

36:09

get dusted and that somebody else is gonna have to sign

36:11

Golladay. At any rate, Detroit

36:14

is in shambles. Matt Stafford has to be disappointed.

36:17

Rob Parker that wants to ban the

36:20

Lions from Thanksgiving,

36:22

and Rob, the floor is yours to

36:26

make a case to banish the Lions from

36:28

Turkey Day. I think I get

36:30

traditions. I'm all, I'm a traditional

36:32

guy, so I don't want you to think that I'm like fly

36:35

By and I get rid of everything, change

36:37

everything. No, I get it. And

36:39

this has been going on since nineteen thirty

36:41

four. And you know this, Jason. I lived in

36:43

Detroit for twenty

36:45

years and I own a barbershop,

36:48

Sporty Cuts on seven Mile Road

36:50

for eighteen years. And I worked for all

36:52

the newspapers there, the Free

36:54

Press, the news, and the TV

36:56

stations and the radio stations. I mean, I

36:59

feel like that's a hometown for me. I'm

37:01

from New York, but I spent I grew

37:03

up, I became a man. I got married

37:06

there. You know, I got divorced

37:08

there. Detroit means something to

37:10

me. I was a business owner. I owned five properties,

37:13

you know, commercial properties in the city. Jason,

37:16

Detroit's a part of me. But

37:19

enough one the Thanksgiving Day. I

37:21

mean, that should be a Markey game

37:23

that people get to watch. And

37:26

maybe it was cool to see Barry Sanders

37:28

back in the day and say, oh yeah,

37:30

we can watch Barry Sanders. But this

37:32

is a sad, sacked organization that

37:34

shouldn't get such a prime spot

37:37

year after year after year. And

37:41

since nineteen seventy eight, it's been

37:43

the Cowboys and the Lions have always

37:46

hosted the Thanksgiving

37:48

Day game, but the Lions stay all the way back

37:50

to nineteen thirty four. I'm just saying, there

37:53

was a time when the Cincinnati Reds

37:55

played the first game of every

37:57

Major League Baseball season. They had traditional

38:00

opener. It was a part

38:03

of baseball tradition because the Cincinnati

38:05

Reds were the first professional team in

38:07

the United States. But even

38:10

that went away. And I just think right

38:12

now, it would be great to see

38:14

some better games, and the Lions

38:16

shouldn't be rewarded for

38:18

being a bad organization. And

38:21

why should we have to stomach

38:25

watching these pathetic football games, especially

38:27

the Lions. I mean, I know the Cowboys haven't won

38:29

anything in twenty five years, but

38:31

they have been more in the mix and won some playoff

38:34

games where the Lions have one playoff

38:37

when Jason since nineteen fifty seven.

38:40

Enough already with the Lions.

38:42

Can we move on? Who do you

38:44

want in their place? Round? I

38:46

want you to mix it around. I want you because

38:48

they want to make it tradition like no, but I'm

38:51

telling you that. But I'm telling

38:53

you, let's let's break with tradition and

38:55

try to get some the same way. On Christmas

38:57

Day, when the NBA's looking for some

39:00

good matchups. I'm not saying you're gonna hit

39:02

on all of them and all the football games

39:04

are gonna be great. I get that they're

39:06

gonna be some stinkers, some clunkers,

39:09

some teams you think we're gonna be good,

39:11

Jason that don't wind up being good.

39:13

I get all that, but there's

39:15

no reason. Tell me, what

39:18

is the Lions tradition to stink

39:20

to be turkeys on Thanksgiving Day? Seriously?

39:22

What is their tradition? There is none?

39:24

Well, I would back up and say the NBA,

39:27

it feels like, you know, there's so

39:29

many games in the schedule, there isn't as

39:31

much tradition. It's like, whoever's good no

39:34

Thanksgiving. I think the NFL and

39:36

I listen, you agree with it, you don't. I

39:38

think they said we want the Detroit Lions. Detroit

39:41

is American, they are Midwest

39:43

tough, they are rushed

39:46

belt Detroit, you know, like we

39:48

want them on Thanksgiving. We want Dallas, America's

39:51

team on Thanksgiving and the night

39:53

game. You know, I think they're trying to make Baltimore

39:55

Pittsburgh or some rivalry game

39:57

happens someone a big, big market on the East

39:59

Coast most to get ratings,

40:02

and I don't hate it. If

40:04

anything, it gives you an opportunity every

40:06

year to bet against Detroit. Hey, I'm gonna

40:09

make money betting against the Lions. Um.

40:11

I mean, I guess I understand what you're saying

40:13

and your disagreement,

40:16

but I do have to say I

40:19

didn't know you had such a strong commercial real estate

40:21

portfolio, Rob Parker. I'm

40:23

impressed. I gotta say, like, listen, I've got

40:25

a diverse portfolio. I think I've told you. I'm

40:28

a minority owner of a basketball team

40:30

in the NBL in Australia,

40:32

and that's like a cool thing in my portfolio. People

40:35

love to ask me about that. But five commercial

40:37

real estate properties, Wow, you are sitting

40:40

on some coin. One of the greatest

40:42

things I ever did. That's what I love about Detroit.

40:44

It was a great opportunity seriously to

40:47

uh, you know, and and me and my partner,

40:49

Tico Edwards. We've been partners for almost

40:51

twenty years now, and we've

40:54

invested in the city. We all

40:56

of our properties are in the city. Uh.

40:59

We we wanted to build,

41:02

you know, as many things as we could

41:04

there. At one time, Jason, I had a sports

41:06

bar, part of a sports bar down

41:08

town called Rob Parker's play by Play

41:11

had a couple of barbershops, a hot dog

41:13

restaurant, you know what I mean, at one point

41:16

it was it was pretty good. I love to put hot

41:18

dogs at restaurants. That's my favorite. What about

41:20

putting a sad sack team like the Philadelphia

41:23

Eagles on Thanksgiving Night?

41:25

A team, but at least they won a Super Bowl

41:27

in the last four or five. I was looking

41:29

more at the fans. You know, you got the degenerate fan

41:31

base who loves to throw stuff at people. You

41:33

know, maybe you throw some handout chicken wings

41:36

to throw at the Eagles when they lose another game, and

41:38

Carson Wentz stinks stinks up to

41:40

joint on Thanksgiving Night? That that could be an option,

41:42

right. I like the idea

41:44

of putting laughable teams and organizations

41:47

like the Eagles. Yeah, I'm going in Philly. You

41:49

guys have cost me a lot of money this year. Carson

41:51

Wentz looks like a joke. I mean, Eagles

41:53

teamster, I get it, But Jason,

41:55

I want a Joel Engineer.

41:58

Can he crack as Mike? He's

42:00

a Detroit Lions fan and sorry,

42:02

I'm sorry. Yes, so, Joel, I just want

42:04

Joel, or do you think I'm crazy? Or

42:06

do you understand where I'm what I'm saying. Actually,

42:09

what I want to say is I understand

42:11

everything you said. But you came

42:13

out talking tradition. That's why we do it,

42:15

so you understand the tradition. But

42:18

this game every year highlights

42:21

brothers like yourself. We get

42:23

to come to Detroit, we get to highlight successful

42:26

entrepreneurials, people who've

42:29

bought into Detroit. Listen, we

42:31

got a chance to highlight the Rob Parker story

42:33

this morning on all he's invested in

42:36

Detroit due to that game being

42:38

on Thanksgiving, Rob, Yes, right,

42:40

but but we need some better football, Joel.

42:43

That's all I'm saying. I get it. People in

42:45

Detroit, Jason, it's like

42:47

a holiday that there's a Thanksgiving

42:49

Day parade. Peaceful part

42:52

of it is, but

42:54

but for the rest of America, NFL

42:56

America, it's been Adjita

42:59

on Thanksgiving. That's

43:01

a culture for Detroit. Yeah, I gotta

43:03

say, Rob real quick. Did you watch the Thanksgiving

43:05

Day parade, the Macy's Parade? It was

43:07

one block this year. Yeah, it was

43:09

a little disappointing. I gotta say, I wake up with the kids

43:12

and we watch it out here in LA. We've never been

43:14

to it when we lived on the East coast, but they

43:16

like all those floats and listen,

43:18

it's tough. I give NBC props. They tried,

43:20

man, they tried hard, Rob, But

43:23

two and a half miles right, and there's all these

43:25

fans cheering, and there's this pageantry.

43:28

It's just it sucked. But then again, twenty twenty

43:30

has basically sucked in general. All right, before

43:32

I get angry. Top of next hour, we're

43:34

going in Patrick Mahomes versus Tom

43:37

Brady. Is this the final nail in the

43:39

coffin for Brady? I mean, you know, Rob

43:41

Parker's going in on TB twelve. I'm gonna

43:43

send him TB twelve for Christmas.

43:45

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