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You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show

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on Fox Sports Radio. I

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saw this story. It was a couple of weeks ago. We had

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Johnny Bench on the best catcher in

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history, two time World Series champ, and

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Johnny was going to auction off a lot of his items,

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and I think what we think. And

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when I was growing up, I thought, Johnny Bench

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and Pete Rose and Joe Morgan and Tony Perette,

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they must be as rich as anybody

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in the country because they played for the Big Red Machine

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and they won World Series titles. And and

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then you realize what they got paid when

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they were playing is a whole lot

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different than what these athletes are getting paid

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now. And you know, I was a little bit sad

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that Johnny had to auction off

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his items. You're talking about MVP,

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won the MVP a couple of times. There are

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other things that gold gloves in there. And

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I saw the story. Todd goes, hey, Johnny's

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gonna keep all of his memorabilia and I go, lad,

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he's not going to auction it, and he goes, no, somebody

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bought all of it and gave it back to him. I

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said, well, we gotta have Johnny on because talk

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about a financial angel there and Johnny

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Bench joining us on the program. When

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did you hear about it? What was your reaction when

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you got you know, most of your memberabilia

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back. The auction

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was on Saturday, and then on Monday David Hunt

1:15

from Hunt Auctions called

1:17

me and said it was a great auction and everything

1:19

else. I said, are you sitting down and I said yeah.

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He said, well, there's a there's a guy

1:24

that wants to be remained

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anonymous. And he

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said, but he bought thirty five of your

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items and he wants to give him back to you.

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Well, I mean I

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lost it. I absolutely lost it.

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I was tears rolling down and

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and you know, I mean it's breath taking. And to

1:46

think that, you know, somebody thought of you enough,

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I mean, you couldn't believe that that would happen. And

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he said, the only only thing

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he told me to tell you was it

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was from a white haired old Jew. So

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I only know one white hair told you. All you have

2:01

to do is google seventy six or sixth

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Man. I met this guy when I

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was nineteen, he was twenty

2:08

three. We were in Puerto Rico. We became

2:10

friends. It was just you

2:12

know, and every time I went to Philadelphia, we went

2:15

out, we had it. He never had kids,

2:17

he had rolls, roys, We grove

2:19

around and he would come to

2:21

spring training every year and we were

2:23

just great friends. And he was

2:25

a real estate business in Philadelphia.

2:28

And so I text I said, I'm looking

2:30

for a white haired old Jew. And

2:33

I said, you know, and after I've walked all

2:35

the tears away and I'm trying to compose myself

2:37

to even think that this would even happen, I

2:40

just can't think enough. Man, if I'm marking up

2:42

the wrong jew, let me know. And

2:46

he texts back and said, no, you got the right Jew. And

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he said, look, I can afford it. And he

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had text me about five days before that and

2:53

had said, why are you doing it? And this

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is Alan Horwitz, this is Alan Horwell,

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Alan HORROWI yes, and I said,

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I'm doing it for the kids. I said, you know, I've

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seen too many families torn apart, whether it be

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with memberabilia from a celebrity

3:08

or an athlete, to people who have

3:10

picked paintings and antique furniture

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that do it. And I wanted to make

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sure that my kids were secure. And you

3:16

know, it just turned seventy three so you

3:19

know, and all these things that are happening to

3:21

our people around us. It was

3:23

the right decision. And now it's

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pretty well, it's incredible, den I mean, it's just

3:28

unfathomable that this could happen. How

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much did he spend for those thirty five items?

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Over a million dollars And

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so with that, I

3:39

started designating the Baseball

3:42

Hall of Fame. I called Jane Clark, the

3:44

chairman. I said, this is what's

3:46

happening, and what

3:48

items do you want? And then the

3:51

Reds Hall of Fame, and then Oklahoma

3:54

Sports Hall of Fame, and it

3:56

was like, I mean, these people

3:58

were over the top. They're saying, you know, the guy Mike

4:01

James in Oklahoma said, you know, the first

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thing to ask is words Johnny's exhibited. Now

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we're able to put gold gloves, and we're able to put

4:08

items in there and be petrophies or

4:10

whatever that they wanted, and a

4:12

couple of several will go to Binger.

4:16

But you know, and it was interesting the kids said

4:18

dead now everybody will be able to see

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and he said, I don't. I didn't want these

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in the hands of collectors that would people would never

4:25

your fans, your family would never be able to see

4:27

them. And I would

4:29

have sent one to you, but your desk is totally

4:31

full. I

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would have gotten rid of a Dan d. I would have gotten

4:37

rid of Todd and put maybe

4:39

your gold glove over there instead

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of him. Absolutely,

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so lady made a great four shot. Yeah,

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Um, how do you explain

4:47

to your kids what happened? Oh?

4:50

I've tried. I've tried, and they say really,

4:52

I mean, they're they can't really get

4:54

their their heads around it. I called

4:57

my attorney first and I said, this is what

4:59

happened, and he just said there he was stunned, and

5:01

then he called me back ten minutes later said, I

5:03

tail can't believe this, he said, And then he's called

5:05

me back the next day. And the people

5:07

that have, you know, have heard about it.

5:09

And now the response is just, you

5:12

know, Alan Horowitz is the angel. You

5:14

know, I believe there are angels among us. I

5:16

mean, it's the Alabama song and

5:18

and I don't know that Dan.

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Can you ever imagine someone actually

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this actually happening? And it's still

5:26

you know, we talked yesterday and the

5:28

only thing he wants is to meet the kids. And I'll

5:30

take him to Philadelphia as soon as the as

5:32

soon as the COVID clears and we can

5:35

get up there and meet this great man. Didn't

5:37

you do enough damage to the Phillies where

5:40

they shouldn't be helping you. Well,

5:44

he was more of a seventy six Ers fan. He

5:46

I made him a Reds fan, so it wasn't so

5:48

much the damage. Yeah,

5:51

you know, I did like Philadelphia

5:54

though, very very good

5:56

to me. Yeah. I was bringing

5:58

this up the other day that it

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seems like the life expectancy of a stadium

6:03

is around thirty years. Like river

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Front, three Rivers, the

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Vet. They all look like big ash trays there.

6:10

I'm wondering, Johnny, if if Fenway was

6:12

built thirty years ago or Wrigley built

6:14

thirty years ago, would they still be standing,

6:16

because it feels like we move

6:19

on, like we have to have a new one. Yeah

6:21

right, yeah, Oh absolutely, I don't

6:24

think there's any question that Wrigley and Fenway

6:26

would be, you know, totally redundant. If

6:28

you put a modern ballpark out there,

6:30

then they got to change dimensions, and you know,

6:32

it becomes just a cult thing for these

6:35

people. I mean, you can see the way they sell

6:37

out every year every game in Boston. How

6:39

Wrigley fans want to be out there. How they're building

6:41

the scoreboards and how how do you

6:43

change something and you

6:46

lose the aura of what these really

6:48

are. It's a mystique about them that

6:51

makes everybody across the country where

6:53

do you want to go? Well, I want to go to Wrigley Field, you

6:55

know, I think that's the one thing. And I

6:57

think they feel like in wrigley Field you can

6:59

get it into a game. You can actually do that.

7:01

In Boston, you know, it's pretty much

7:04

season tickets and uh, but

7:07

it's still a standard best ballpark

7:09

though played. Uh

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wow. Um. I think

7:16

the first time going into Dodgers Stadium,

7:18

I never liked to play there because they always had great pitching, but

7:20

it was like a you know, you could you

7:22

know, you couldn't stand a second base and had a fung go

7:24

out of there. So and the

7:27

first time I walked into the Astrodome and

7:29

our manager had a meeting before the game, says,

7:31

all right, get out there, now, look

7:34

at all the stuff in the stadium. Get it over

7:36

with so you can focus on the game.

7:38

And you know, they had those cowboys riding across

7:41

there and starts shooting in firewoods and

7:43

and uh, you know, you went

7:45

by the ballpark where you were most comfortable. You

7:47

know, Shay Stadium had all the trash and all the

7:49

airplanes flying over. You got to San

7:51

Francisco and you know, and Stue Miller

7:54

blew off the mound and you know, I worked

7:56

panty host one night, just try

7:58

to keep warm, and you know, and the win is blowing

8:00

across the fag and I would I would throw

8:02

towards shortstop. I would throw it towards shortstops,

8:04

or blow towards second. Wait, wait, go back

8:07

to the pantyhose here somebody

8:10

and uh, we were trying to look for Long John's

8:12

and you know, they were so thick at the time.

8:15

And either I don't think, I don't. I don't want to blame

8:17

name it or anything else for doing that. But somebody

8:19

said that you could actually wear pantios

8:22

and it would it would keep you warmer. And it was

8:24

cold out there, and uh

8:27

uh no, I couldn't buy anything. He didn't

8:29

run and I hate a run in a stocking.

8:32

You know, that's the worst thing. So I I did

8:34

away with those of them. They only made San Francisco.

8:37

Could I now if that's out for auction? I'll

8:39

bid on your panti hoos uh

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Okay. I won't go there, Dan, But that's

8:44

a that's a good I'm

8:48

sure your wife would love you running around the raft. These

8:50

are Hney. Yeah

8:52

yeah, and I paid good money for him.

8:56

Were you I, I'm gonna guess you were there, didn't

8:59

start You'll hit one of the longest home runs ever

9:01

at Riverfront? That was it upper

9:03

deck where they way way

9:05

upper deck? Did they change the like

9:07

one of the seats out to mark

9:10

how far Star Joel hit it in the Riverfront?

9:13

I believe it was. And they've done that. They've

9:15

they've done that in a couple of states where Bernie Carbo

9:17

hit one off of Nolan Ryan one

9:19

night in the Astrodome that went up way up in the upper

9:21

you know, and they they play or started putting targets

9:23

on it. And then the guy started that the pictures

9:26

would get upset. Their name was on

9:28

the list of giving up the long one.

9:30

But but Star Joel hit one of the longest

9:32

home runs. I might have

9:34

been there. I might have, but

9:36

I just remember it kept going

9:39

and I lost track because normally you would

9:41

look in the green seats at at Riverfront

9:44

and it just kept going and I'd lost track

9:47

of it. I thought he hit it out of the stadium. I

9:49

know, I know, I mean that was that was

9:52

the thing where the upper deck was nowhere,

9:54

no man's land. I mean, they've concepts. He only

9:56

hit one in the upper deck in a field, and

9:59

I hit one off the sing off the John Monifusko

10:01

one time, and that was Mike Mike claim

10:04

to fame. But I never got one in the upper deck. But Willie's

10:06

must have gone fifteen or twenty rows up. I mean

10:08

it was just and and I can still he

10:11

wait crossed home plate and just looked at

10:13

me and shrugged his shoulder. He just shrugged.

10:15

He said he was such a great guy, and

10:17

he'd whipped that bat around and he rolled

10:19

that bat around and then but he was the nicest

10:21

guy, but he just sort of shrugged his shoulders. I'd looked

10:23

at him when he came across home plate, and

10:26

I've been there for some good ones. Did you ever pull

10:28

a crash, Davis and tell the batter

10:30

what was coming? No?

10:34

No, no no.

10:37

I remember when Clay Dalrymple

10:39

was the catcher for the Phillies and Jean

10:42

Mark told told Clay to

10:44

tell Pete what was coming because they couldn't get him

10:46

out, and said Clay said, told

10:48

Pete, said, look, Jeane wants me to tell

10:50

you what's coming. And so he said,

10:52

okay, first pit here's a fastball right down

10:55

the middle, strike one. All

10:57

right, here comes a caball strike two.

10:59

And he just standing there looking at it and everything

11:01

else. And he stepped out of the box and told Humber, would

11:04

you tell him we're talking about I don't want

11:06

to know what's coming. One

11:10

night, one night, we were in Montreal and Gary

11:12

Carter was the catcher and den chat Saider was the pitcher,

11:15

and he and it was the perfect count

11:17

for a two one slider on the outside.

11:19

And I looked back at the kid and I said, kid, what's this one?

11:25

That? Wait?

11:27

You you knew what he was going to do. He

11:30

was setting you up and you yeah,

11:32

it was just a situation where I knew that

11:34

was his favorite pitch. He was going to try that slider

11:37

on the out, try to break it over. And I said, what's

11:39

this one? Kid? Well,

11:43

I'm happy for you. You got to Uh,

11:45

everybody shares in this. Everybody benefits

11:48

and they get to see that memorabilia

11:50

and once again great thumbs

11:53

up thanks to Alan Horwitz. It

11:55

is Hanukah, so you know he uh,

11:57

he came to the rescue and gave you a oneful

12:00

gift there, and you

12:03

know, I want to go, I want to cry now. But Merry

12:05

Christmas to all of you and the Danetts, and I

12:08

hope you're well. I hope your health is good. Thank you,

12:10

buddy. That's the great Johnny

12:12

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Peacock Act. Opening night

12:35

on the NBA is twelve days away. Jonathan

12:38

Fagan, who covers the Rockets the beat

12:40

writer for the Houston Chronicle, joining Us and

12:43

Jonathan. Any drama any updates

12:45

here? Well, I don't know if

12:48

James Harden has been able to get his leak pass working

12:50

so he can watch the preseason game tonight. That

12:53

might be drama. Other than that,

12:55

I think today's been quiet

12:57

so far, all right, update us

12:59

on where stand what is fact

13:01

and what is fiction here with the

13:03

Rockets in Harden. Yeah,

13:06

I mean the overriding fact is he wants

13:09

to be to a team he can consider

13:11

a contender, which he considered

13:13

the Rockets to be in past years, and apparently

13:16

no longer feels that this

13:18

team as a championship contender. That part

13:21

hovers over everything. He

13:23

showed up on Tuesday, began his COVID

13:26

protocol testing. Should

13:29

be able to practice when the team gets back

13:31

from Chicago on Monday. Assuming

13:34

everything goes well with the testing and

13:37

the Rockets have to decide, what they want

13:39

to do is slow play

13:41

this as much as possible, take

13:44

their time, determine

13:46

when if they are to deal him,

13:49

they can get the best deal now,

13:52

trade deadline or next summer. Factoring

13:55

in that if you can determine, yeah,

13:57

get a better deal later, you also have ants,

14:00

however small or to whatever

14:02

degree, the chance is that

14:04

he'll decide, Hey, this team is good, I want to be here.

14:07

I don't know how great a chance that is, but if

14:09

you trade him, there is no chance of that, So

14:13

there's advantages for them to wait. What

14:15

do you make of the report yesterday that

14:18

you can add the Miami Heat Milwaukee

14:20

Bucks to that list with the Nets in

14:22

the seventy six ers. Who's adding

14:24

that it Harden is adding that, yes,

14:28

but you know he had previously told them contenders,

14:32

So putting names by the word contenders

14:34

doesn't really change much. We can all determine

14:37

who the contenders are, and if we

14:39

were, we would probably start

14:42

with the best record in the league last

14:44

year and the team that went to the finals in the Eastern

14:46

Conference last year. So that

14:49

doesn't really move the ball when it comes

14:51

to the decisions the Rockets have to make. The

14:54

Rockets if they are to trade him, they could trade

14:56

him anywhere they want, and to

14:59

me, if you're a bad team, if you're a team

15:01

stuck in that never get in the

15:03

playoffs or barely fight

15:05

to be a first round loser team,

15:08

hey load it all up, go

15:11

for him. Now, most of those teams don't have anything to load

15:13

up or not enough, But the

15:15

Rockets are not in any way compelled

15:18

to move him to a contender.

15:20

They just got to move to whatever team

15:23

gets the most back, which

15:25

is a future star. They

15:27

want his successor as

15:30

the next star, and they want a haul

15:32

of draft picks. Why aren't

15:35

the Knicks in on this, Jonathan, Like, the

15:37

Knicks usually do something stupid, and why

15:39

not have somebody that people show up to

15:41

watch. Well, there's

15:43

a chance the Knicks are no longer the stupid Knicks,

15:45

that they finally have escaped

15:48

that. But

15:50

do they have the guy who's

15:52

going to be that next star? Do

15:55

any of their young up and

15:57

comer RJ. Barrett or something to the Rockets

15:59

say oh, why you know we're going to rebuild

16:01

around that guy. That's

16:03

where they fall short. So it's

16:06

and that's where we can both

16:08

go back and forth. Well what about this about Cleveland?

16:11

What about Minnesota? You

16:13

start looking at teams and you can make the money

16:15

work, but who's got

16:19

a next best player? Know where

16:21

its teams aren't trading their best player? Who's

16:24

next best player fits the Rocus

16:26

criteria of a successor

16:28

to James Harton. And I'm trying to understand

16:31

this though, Jonathan, and you're there on the front lines,

16:33

but it feels like James Harden has been

16:35

running this organization for a while,

16:38

or at least deciding who's coming and who's

16:40

going. If it's a

16:42

coach who's going to be going and another coach

16:45

comes in. I think he might have wanted ty

16:47

Lou instead of Silas. But James

16:50

Harden was trying to build himself a

16:52

championship team. It didn't work, and now

16:54

he wants out, and I got

16:56

to blame him for some of the

16:59

things that have happened here, Like he doesn't

17:01

take ownership in this to say, you know

17:03

what, it didn't work. Let's try another way,

17:06

a new philosophy. It's

17:08

good to be the king, Yeah, it's

17:12

absolutely. I mean the most obvious example is

17:15

he really wanted to reunite with

17:17

Russell Westbrook. They remained

17:20

friends, and they do still by the way, they

17:22

are still friends and they never really had issues,

17:24

but they weren't a good fit from

17:27

the idea, and obviously

17:30

to now he wanted that, and

17:32

the Rockets, to use their term, went all

17:35

in for that. I mean two lightly

17:38

protected first round picks Chris Paul

17:40

and two potential pick swaps.

17:43

They traded much of their future

17:46

and now they thought it was good too. At the time Chris

17:48

Paul had an injury filled here,

17:50

they thought there was a chance that would

17:53

be the future for him. So

17:55

it's not like he dragged

17:57

them kicking and screaming and they didn't

17:59

want it, but they did it to appease him. That's not it

18:01

at all. But he wanted it, wanted

18:04

it badly, and he made that very

18:06

clear to Daryl Morey, who went

18:09

all out to go all in.

18:12

I mean, that's the most obvious example. But yeah,

18:14

he's made a lot of decisions or had

18:16

a lot of influence, and he's

18:19

been kept in the loop on all

18:21

kinds of things for years because

18:24

they thought Daryl, especially believed

18:26

that creates a partnership. Well,

18:30

the partnership doesn't seem to be going very

18:32

well right now because it's sort

18:34

of like, hey, we had a great year,

18:36

eight years of marriage, but you know I found somebody

18:39

better. Well, you know, the one you

18:41

want to leave isn't too thrilled with that. What

18:45

happens next year? I

18:47

think the most likely thing is he shows

18:50

up and practices Monday, and

18:52

they carry this on into the season in

18:55

the hopes that they'll be good enough that

18:58

and he is very pride full player.

19:00

He's a very driven player. They're

19:02

not concerned he's going to pout his way

19:05

through the season or anything like that. The Rockets

19:07

don't believe that'll be the case. It's

19:09

a huge setback though, with a new coach and a

19:11

lot of new players, it's a huge

19:14

setback losing a week of practices with

19:16

him in this kind of season. But that's

19:18

what is the most likely. If

19:20

they're not a good team, if they're

19:22

a fringe playoff team, do

19:25

they have to make a move at the trade deadline

19:28

or do they do it next summer. One

19:30

thing to keep in mind, rafel Stone, the

19:33

new general manager, is very

19:35

capable of saying, no, James,

19:38

I want to be traded, do it now? No?

19:41

Yeah, but I want to go to Brooklyn. No,

19:45

he can do that, and he would do that. Whatever

19:49

decision they make is going to affect this franchise

19:52

for five to seven years, So half

19:54

a season when there's hardly any

19:56

fans in the building anyway, they

19:59

can put up with that and do whatever they think

20:01

is best whenever that comes. Who's

20:03

in better shape The Rockets are the Texans. Well,

20:11

you know, the Texans have the superstar,

20:15

they have Deshaun Watson. So my

20:17

inclination is to say them, the

20:20

Rockets have the asset. And

20:23

it is basketball where

20:26

you know, one great asset brings one

20:28

great player, You're suddenly a factor.

20:31

You know, I'll say the Rockets. The Rockets

20:33

have a general manager. You know, they

20:36

have a coach. They have a general manager.

20:39

Both teams have stars right

20:42

now. Although it's probably more unpleasant

20:44

right now and difficult, they really

20:47

like the coach they picked. They're very happy

20:49

with that choice. The Rocket

20:51

Texans don't know who their coach is going to be, So Rockets,

20:55

Jonathan, should be fun. We appreciate your time.

20:57

Thank you, have a good weekend. All right, Thanks

20:59

you too, Holidays. That's a Jonathan Fagan.

21:01

He covers the Rockets for the Houston Chronicle.

21:04

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21:07

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21:09

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21:20

twenty four to three. Bill Belichick is

21:22

backing Cam Newton. What else do you expect

21:25

him to say? Let's bring in the peripatetic

21:28

Tom e Kerrn, the Patriots insider

21:30

NBC Sports Boston, who joints us on

21:33

the program. What was the difference

21:35

between the Chargers game and last night's game?

21:37

There? Tom Patriots

21:39

got behind, and when they are behind, Cam

21:42

effectively ties their hands and being able

21:44

to rally because he is a one dimensional quarterback

21:47

Against the charges, they scored in the first drive. They

21:49

came back, they had a block field goal for a

21:51

touchdown, they had a pick, they had a pump return

21:54

for a touchdown. Party was over. But in

21:56

this instance, there was no digging out because

21:58

Cam only can dig deeper.

22:01

It was a couple of weeks ago I think when you wrote

22:03

a column and you said that the Patriots sort

22:06

of know what they have with Cam Newton, what

22:08

is it and what's that mean for the future, and

22:12

what it is is probably weirdly,

22:15

Dan, it's the best case scenario for this

22:17

year because they are so bereft

22:20

of offensive weaponry and you see

22:22

it during these games. I don't know if anybody would

22:24

be getting a hell of a lot more out of it, whether it was

22:26

Kyler, Murray Russell Wilson, Tom Brady or

22:28

Cam Newton. They're so challenged at

22:30

the wide receiver spot. So what you have in Newton is

22:32

a guy who can run for eleven touchdowns, who

22:35

can be a red zone threat, who can pick up third and

22:37

twos by bulling forward, but you pay

22:39

the price otherwise, so

22:41

they know that you can't have him, at

22:44

least in my estimation. Bill might think

22:46

differently, But this is an anachronistic

22:49

offense. It's a nineteen fifties high school offense.

22:51

We just have the biggest kid on the block and say he's

22:53

going to run you over. And then if the other team

22:56

has a good kid too from the other neighborhood,

22:58

you're screwed. Being Aaron

23:00

Donald, that being Aaron

23:02

Donald, or that being well not even

23:05

Jared Goff, but that being to Shaun Watson, or

23:08

it being a coach. I think really too was a

23:10

fair fight on the sidelines that

23:12

Bill was engaged in last night, and

23:14

sometimes you can just big brain the

23:17

opposition, and last

23:19

night I don't think that was the case. All

23:22

right, So what's the goal do you think with this team

23:24

for the rest of the year. What

23:27

it should be excuse me, is

23:29

making sure that they

23:32

know what they have going into

23:34

the twenty twenty one offseason. They have like sixty

23:36

million dollars in cap space. They're

23:39

probably going to be a top fifteen

23:41

selector. They should

23:43

know whether or not Jared Stidham can play

23:46

even a little. They should be able to

23:48

figure out who defensively is going to be there going forward

23:50

and figure out what pieces they'll need instead.

23:53

I think they're going to spend a fair amount of time

23:57

trying to Well, you have to try and win the Miami

23:59

game. You still got shot. But going

24:02

forward into twenty twenty one, they have to address

24:04

the quarterback position. It's the most important position in

24:06

sports. Dan, but really since they traded

24:08

Garoppolo, they've cast it about

24:10

for any solution at all. Danny,

24:13

Yetling and Stidham

24:16

are the only guys they drafted at the spot. Hoyer

24:19

and Newton are the only guys who've held down the spot and

24:22

twenty seventeen Halloween was three years ago.

24:25

Yeah, don't they know what they have in Stidham? And

24:28

if they don't, wiren't they going to play him now? They

24:32

suspect what they have. He is

24:34

no barrier to them having

24:37

any future plans at the spot, meaning

24:39

that he wouldn't even if he went off

24:42

the next three weeks. I don't think that that would stop them

24:44

from doing anything. Why

24:46

won't they play him now? Bill is getting that question

24:49

over the last twelve hours, and both times

24:51

he's bristled Today, said I'm not answering that question

24:53

ever again, but I

24:57

think that they're looking at it as you've got to dance with what brung

24:59

you. He gives us a chance to score points,

25:02

cam does if the rest of the game

25:04

falls a particular way. If I may,

25:08

if I made you the GM, what

25:10

would you do? I

25:15

would probably say,

25:18

Bill, it's a good idea to go ahead and use Stidham.

25:21

You know, lose this game against Miami and then we sid

25:24

him the last two we finished seven

25:26

and nine. You

25:29

can't desert the players and say

25:31

we're going to Stidham to find out what's going on when

25:33

there's still a mathematical chance. I think

25:35

that would be especially this year where guys are sacrificing

25:38

so much and affront

25:41

But I would probably go after Jimmy

25:44

Garoppolo, Jacobe Brissette,

25:48

bridge guys until you can find the

25:50

answer at quarterback. Well,

25:53

Garoppolo wouldn't be a bridge. Now, you're right.

25:56

I said that, and I said, oh, we get that back. Especially

25:59

since he's been so overpaid in San

26:01

Francisco. That's going to be fascinated

26:03

to watch too, because if you're a Matt Stafford,

26:06

if he gets released or Jimmy Garoppolo or whoever

26:08

do you want to come to New England? I mean,

26:10

this attractive place for twenty years,

26:13

you're gonna look at and go, who am I throw it to? Again?

26:15

You guys got to sign a tight end at some point, and

26:18

I wouldn't be dying to come here to finish

26:20

my career in chase a ring. Yeah.

26:23

And while I can credit Belichick

26:25

for doing some pretty good coaching this year,

26:28

I can also blame Belichick for having

26:30

to do some really good coaching because

26:32

he doesn't have the personnel right.

26:35

And that's why conversations about whether

26:37

or not he's Coach of the Year come with that caveat

26:39

Well, look what he's done with Cam? Well

26:42

why is Cam here? It's because he held the door and tapped

26:44

his foot until Brady walked through it. Hashtag

26:47

Tommy. Do

26:49

you think Brady watches Do you think he

26:51

watched that game last night? Yeah, he

26:54

likes football. Do you think he watches

26:56

it with his smile on his face at

26:59

any point? That's

27:02

a good question. I think No.

27:05

I don't think he smiles relative to the players

27:07

on the field, but I think

27:09

that there's probably a satisfaction that he

27:11

takes in saying, see, see

27:15

I didn't throw four touchdowns and ten

27:17

picks. I still somehow through twenty

27:19

four touchdowns with these guys, and I was supposed

27:21

to be the bad guy and decline. Then of course

27:23

he hasn't came this weekend. He's not been lighting the world

27:25

on fire. Either. No, if

27:28

we talk in a month from now about

27:30

the Patriots, what are we talking about. They

27:32

finished eight and eight. It's

27:34

weird, but it's January

27:37

tenth and they're not in the playoffs, and they're

27:39

starting to try and make their decisions. You have to figure

27:41

out whether Patrick Chung and Janata high

27:43

Tower and Marcus Cannon and James White.

27:45

I mean, they got a lot of guys dan who are

27:47

free agents, not just where

27:50

the roster is right now, and not

27:52

just how much cap space they have that a lot of old

27:54

Lions on this franchise that are

27:56

free agents. So I don't

27:58

even know if the rebuild has started. Could

28:01

you see Bill Ever coaching a different team

28:05

Wesleyan lacrosse? That's

28:07

it, not an NFL

28:09

No, No, I don't, I

28:12

don't. I don't see that happening. I don't know if you

28:14

could kick upstairs and be a consultant and have

28:16

Stephen Belichick perhaps be a head coach

28:18

or you know Mayo or someone like that.

28:21

But I really think that, and

28:25

he is such a detailed, oriented guy, Dan,

28:27

and you know you dealt with him. I

28:29

just don't think he would want to walk away and give anybody

28:31

the satisfaction to saying yeah, well, Bill

28:34

drove the team into the ground at the end once Brady

28:36

left. I think he would be stubborn enough to say, no, I'm

28:39

not going anywhere. Thanks

28:41

for joining us. As always, Tom, we appreciate your

28:43

time and uh, happy holidays, as they

28:45

like to say, thanks my friend. Say

28:47

hi to Michael. That's Tom E. Curran,

28:50

Patriots Insider, NBC. Thanks

28:53

for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.

28:55

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28:57

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R, or stream us live on the

29:13

Peacock Act. Case you're wondering how

29:16

we were able to book Michael Boublay,

29:19

this all started because we were watching the Christmas

29:21

at Rockefeller Center last week, and then Paulie

29:24

was distraught because Michael Boublay wasn't

29:26

performing. So I said that Todd reach out

29:28

to Michael Boublay's people and find out is

29:31

everything okay with Michael Boublay, Because

29:33

Mariah Carey maybe you know

29:36

Miss Christmas or whatever she is, but Michael

29:38

Boublet is mister Christmas. He sold over

29:41

seventy five million records worldwide and

29:43

numerous number one hits. He wins awards,

29:45

we get nominated, he wins, and

29:48

of course the number one holiday album

29:50

Christmas every year since its original release.

29:53

In twenty eleven, Christmas jumps back into

29:55

the top ten on the Billboard two hundred

29:57

album chart. Michael Boublay, the pri

30:00

to British Columbia, joins us on the program.

30:03

Michael, how are you today? I'm mister Patrick,

30:05

happy Hanka to everybody. Well,

30:08

I want to know if you're over the nineteen ninety

30:10

four Stanley Cup Final?

30:13

Are you over it? Never? Never, never

30:15

any chance I have to trash Mark

30:17

Messii. I do, even though I'm

30:19

sure he's a great human being.

30:22

It was that was horrible. It was horrible,

30:24

and I was I was there I went, and I

30:27

was in the festivities or the riot, both

30:29

of them. And it's hard

30:31

as a knack fan. It's a tough thing to take. Have

30:33

you talked to Messia about that? No,

30:36

no, no, I said, I was. I was in

30:38

an NHL awards where I presented something and

30:40

I sat behind him and I just glared at him.

30:44

But if you saw him you were doing a show, would

30:47

you call him out or say? Trash talk with Mark

30:50

Messier? Oh? Like, you know what, I think

30:52

trash talk is a very healthy thing. Honestly

30:55

I do. It's It's honestly the reason when

30:57

I watched that segment with you guys, you guys

30:59

were kind of taking the piss out of me a bit.

31:02

I thought that, and I thought,

31:05

I thought, you know what, I have

31:07

to go and see Dan. I've got to be on this show

31:09

now, I've got to talk to these guys. And I know what you've done

31:11

for Sandler's career, and I was hoping if I could just get

31:14

a bit of that. Do you

31:16

do you want me to see if I can get you into a

31:18

Sandler movie? Are you are you

31:21

can? I tell you, honest to God, that

31:23

is my my family, and I he is our

31:25

favorite. Like anything he does. We are

31:28

crazy. Okay, okay crazy. When we get

31:30

done, I promise you I

31:32

will text you and then I will

31:35

say that you would like to be do a cameo.

31:38

Oh, I'll be an idiot. I'll make he can whatever.

31:41

No, no, I do that. That's my role. Michael, I'm

31:44

Sandler movie. I will, I will, I will

31:46

check you. Now to recap what we did. We were

31:48

talking about Michael Boublet, and then we all did

31:50

our Michael Boublet impersonations. So

31:53

we yeah,

31:58

oh my god. Now I don't know if this is Is

32:01

it Tony Bennett? Is it? Ella

32:03

Fitzgerald? Who's

32:07

how did you find your voice? That's

32:09

a great question, you know, it's funny. I was thinking about this

32:11

this morning. I think, like all

32:13

of us, we all have people that we idolized. We all

32:16

have people that mean a lot to us, and

32:18

so we borrow from them, we steal, borrow,

32:20

we steal from them. And so I

32:23

stole from everyone I could steal with little

32:25

things. I took the way that say

32:27

Dean Martin would drop his epiglottis. It's

32:29

the way he would kind of have that thing

32:31

where Elvis Presley's vibrato, or the

32:34

sonata, the way Sinatra would sing on his vowels

32:39

or whatever. There's all of these things. Ella Fitzgerald,

32:41

she had sort of the way that you would bounce between notes.

32:44

I would steal it all And

32:46

at first I was nothing but a thief. I truly

32:48

was. I had no I don't think I could

32:50

tell you what I sounded like. And it took me years.

32:53

I mean even after I got signed. I think

32:55

I was into my second record,

32:58

third record before I started

33:01

to find my own distinct style. Up

33:03

till then, I think I was really no more

33:05

than a kid, just trying to impersonate the people

33:07

that I loved, you know, But I think that's the same for everybody.

33:09

If you're in broadcasting. It's like I have

33:12

many friends or broadcasting as the same thing. They look at

33:14

guys and girls that came in before them, and they

33:16

just tried to steal and then they finally did become

33:18

themselves. But you grew up, you wanted

33:21

to be an athlete, you wanted to be a hockey player, Like

33:23

at what point do you go, Okay, I can't

33:25

be, you know, a tough guy

33:27

hockey player. I'm going to be a crooner.

33:31

I haven't hasn't stopped. I still

33:34

have. I still have. I

33:36

still have fantasies where I can

33:38

hear the announcers saying and the Vancouver

33:41

Cannucks proudly select with the first pick overall

33:43

from Burnaby, Michael Bouble. You know,

33:46

I'm forty four years old and I still do it. I

33:49

still do it, man, So you still want to be Pavel

33:51

Brey? Are you kidding me? Are

33:53

you? The Russian Rocket? I was so good.

33:56

He was amazing.

33:58

He was I was there at the first game at the Pacific

34:00

Coliseum and my grandfather had

34:03

had season tickets and I remember him

34:05

coming from behind the net. I think it was the Winnipeg Jets,

34:08

and honest to God, and I've

34:10

never seen anything like it again in sports, right

34:13

at least I haven't witnessed it. Being

34:15

there. Everyone in

34:17

the crowd about fourteen thousand people,

34:20

as he started to take off from behind his own

34:22

net, we all started, almost like jockeys

34:24

on a horse. Everyone started to lift

34:26

out of their seats and you could see people starting

34:30

to sort of move, and you could it

34:32

was unbelievable. He rushed from all the way

34:34

from the other end. He didn't get the goal. But

34:36

by the time he had made the turn from the net,

34:39

there was a buzz through that building like there

34:41

will never be again. It

34:44

was unbelievable. And then of course, you know, he just

34:46

went on to you know, sixty goals, one hundred and ten

34:48

points, over and over again. Yeah,

34:50

there's certain guys that you see and they

34:52

just skated a different speed, like there's

34:54

just something about them. But then you come across

34:57

Gretzky and you go, I

34:59

don't know why, but he does really well. Yeah,

35:02

but he's the greatest player of all time, Like how do

35:04

you explain that. Yeah, there's a kid that

35:07

we have on the Canucks right now name Alias Peterson.

35:09

He's a Swedish kid, really great kid, nice

35:11

guy, but he has that he

35:14

has that thing where he may not be the fastest,

35:16

sort of the biggest guy, but

35:18

it seems like you know, they always sounds

35:21

like a cliche, but they'd always say with Gretzky, he's

35:23

not going to where the puck is. He's going to where the puck is

35:25

going to be. And Petterson is

35:27

like that. You watch him calculating in his mind

35:30

what is about to happen, what things are are

35:33

happening, and some of

35:35

the plays he makes are it's crazy. It's very

35:37

strange. It's almost that the play slows

35:39

down. Everything slows down for him, where

35:42

the game is such a fast game obviously for

35:44

other people, but for him, you just

35:46

watch it just a chill

35:48

mode and the next thing you know, the pucks in the net. He's

35:51

Michael Boublet, the singer songwriter, multi

35:53

platinum platinum man, multi Grammy

35:56

Award winning artist. Full

35:58

disclosure. My late mother in law came

36:00

home one day and she said

36:03

she wanted to know if we had any Michael Bubble

36:05

music. And I said, I

36:08

don't. I don't know who Michael Bubble

36:10

is, nanny, and then she goes, you

36:13

know, Michael Bubble, he does all the Christmas

36:15

music. I said, Michael Bobble and she said,

36:18

oh no, it's Bubble. So I don't

36:20

know if you ever get that, but my late mother

36:23

in law loved Michael Bubble. I

36:26

never people never get my name. I mean, it's the whole reason

36:28

I do the bubbly. That's the PEPSI

36:30

bubbly because they may call me bubbly, booble,

36:33

bobbles, boobs in other countries

36:35

they call me those are mine. That's what they call me

36:37

in Spain, they say, which

36:41

is Bubble in Spanish? In Ireland,

36:44

I'm Mickey Bubbles Hey. In a

36:46

lot of the UK, I'm the Boobs, mister

36:48

Boobs. It's

36:53

funny. When I first signed, the company kept

36:55

saying, I said, we really need to change

36:57

your name. It's a crap name and people

36:59

are never we're gonna buy records from the name Boublay

37:02

Bubbles. What happened? But I didn't

37:04

what happened at Rockefeller Center. We were worried

37:06

that you weren't performing. I

37:09

don't know what to say. I mean, the record that I

37:12

have out right now is nine

37:14

years old. Yeah, so it's not there's

37:16

nothing to promote. I don't. I don't. You're

37:19

mister Christmas. I

37:22

don't know. Like Mariah Carey is the Queen

37:24

of Christmas. Yeah right, yeah,

37:28

I don't know that's you're proclaiming

37:30

that, but I I know she proclaims

37:33

that, but I'm she proclaims that. Yeah yeah,

37:35

oh no, no, no, she's the Queen of Christmas. I'd

37:38

like to be the queen of everything, but

37:40

you can be that being a christ Could I used to be the queen?

37:43

Could it be a queen? Well?

37:45

You are Michael Boobs, So Michael

37:47

Boobs could easily be who knows how things

37:49

are going to roll with my wife? You know what I mean? I

37:52

know, I know. I want you to be the

37:54

judge here, Um, Todd,

37:56

you want to start first with your Michael

37:59

Bubley impersonation? All right? And just tell

38:01

us which is I'm so excited to hear this.

38:03

Okay, I'm sure you aren't. Okay, Todd, are you ready?

38:10

Fire is so delightful,

38:13

And since we've no place to go, let

38:16

it snow, let it snow, Let it

38:18

snow already. It's

38:21

not bad at all. That's a little got a little Bill

38:23

Murray in there, one

38:30

of the great singers of all time, Bill Murray. I

38:32

don't mind that. I actually I thought that was pretty good.

38:34

All right, mclough and you don't sing?

38:36

Do you can? I give my turn

38:39

to Todd for a second? No, no, no, I can't

38:41

have to. Doesn't get all

38:43

right, man, It doesn't

38:46

show signs of stopping. And

38:49

I brought me some corn to

38:53

turn with a low Let

38:56

it snow, Let it snow, Let it snow,

38:58

alrighty Seaton

39:01

O counter killing me.

39:03

But you know, Michael, I was thinking it's you sort of brought

39:05

back that style of like that crooner style.

39:08

I think what we're missing right now is more of the

39:10

Bing Crosby's of the world, the sort of calm

39:13

lad. I

39:18

think that there's a market for that right now, more of a modern

39:21

thing. I was just listening to

39:23

Bing Crosby David Bowie last

39:25

night at the dinner table, and

39:28

you know that. My wife goes, you know that's David

39:30

Bowie's number one single. I go, it's not Bing

39:32

Crosby's number one single, but I know it's David

39:35

Bowie's number one single. All right, PAULI can you do

39:37

that? Can you do that one piece again? Because I feel

39:39

like it may not work for Christmas, but it

39:41

could work for a porno Okay, Seaton

39:44

because I keep it down here, I think it's what

39:47

you're saying, calm, yeah,

39:54

okay, all right, Michael, You're

39:56

never gonna feel better about your singing skills. In about

39:58

three seconds here. It is from some at my favorite line,

40:01

A lady doesn't wander all

40:03

over the room and blow

40:05

on some other guys, dice.

40:08

I love luck

40:11

for a lady. That's a great too. Luck be a lady

40:13

tonight. Yeah, if

40:16

do you like, like it's Sinatra. Who else

40:18

would you say it would be go to? If

40:22

I liked Sinatra? Luck But I think easily my

40:24

favorites were Dean Martin. Dean

40:27

Martin. Dean

40:29

Martin was amazing man. That guy made things look

40:31

like they were easy. Yeah, and they weren't

40:34

easy. It wasn't easy. He was great and I

40:36

loved his whole thing. Nat king Cole, I

40:38

love Nat. I loved how he's saying. I love that voice.

40:41

I love a lot of the ladies. I love Ella, and I love Sarah

40:43

Vaughan. I like the New a

40:45

lot of like Diana Krawl. I'm a massive fan

40:48

of Diana Um, big Conic

40:50

fan, big Sincatti

40:53

call Um. There's a bunch of modern guys

40:55

and girls that they were uh Cecile McLaren

40:58

savan is a great jazz singer. You're

41:00

never gonna listen to any of these, I'm guessing,

41:02

but they're really good, really talented people.

41:04

No, Diane, I've heard of. Yeah,

41:07

I mean, what's cool you guys? Is? I feel really protective

41:09

of this genre because Isaac.

41:11

I mean, I know I'm Canadian, but this

41:14

is the greatest gift I think America ever gave

41:16

to the arts, you know, and I think that we

41:19

just I want to be part of keeping it

41:21

alive and introducing it to people

41:23

because it deserves to be in such a beautiful root

41:26

of so much of the music that we now

41:28

love, everything from rock to R

41:30

and B to you know, wrap everything.

41:33

It's sort of the root of that. Well, we gave that

41:35

to you, but Canada gave us rush though,

41:37

Michael, so yes, yeah,

41:40

could you sing songs like that? If I said,

41:43

you know something I do sing songs if you guys

41:45

were if you guys actually listened

41:47

to me or came to a concert, you would

41:50

see that I do. But because you don't, you

41:52

have just put me into this place, you

41:55

know, unlike

41:57

me who watches everything you guys and

41:59

it's completely in love with you. But but

42:01

here I wish, would

42:03

you guys come to hang once, come to a

42:05

show, just hang with me, Bring your girls, bring your wives

42:07

to come and and chill with me.

42:10

Absolutely, And I ask one

42:12

more favor, Yes, yes you can. Just

42:14

one of the big reasons, I mean, of the many

42:17

reasons I want to do this first time. I really I am

42:19

a huge fan. I think you guys, what you do is so great.

42:21

Um, I really do, and I

42:24

watch all the time. I'm fascinated about what you do. I

42:26

love the world that you live in. I

42:29

am five points behind in

42:31

my Fantasy League. I

42:34

know that Spade asked for help once,

42:36

and I'm asking

42:39

for help because I think I can take this

42:41

guy and go to the finals. We started a week early

42:43

in fourteen. I am I

42:45

have the issue. This is it's my

42:48

team started off. I was nine and three.

42:50

I mean Kyler Murray. Who was going to stop Kyler

42:52

Murray? I mean Alvin Kamara. You couldn't

42:55

stop Album Kamara. I was going to kill everybody

42:57

and all of a sudden breeze went out. Kyler got hurt.

42:59

And see at anyway, in

43:01

my flex position, my my my

43:03

wide receivers are great. I got a plethora of the

43:06

choose from Okay, but in my flex

43:09

I've got to go between Dobbins Sanders,

43:12

which just they're saying that he's gonna get

43:15

more work, but I just it freaks me out the team

43:17

he's playing against, and God

43:19

is he going to get more work? And the third

43:22

who is my third Mostard? And

43:25

I love Mostard and I put him in last

43:27

week and I got

43:29

Shanahan, So what

43:32

would what would you guys do? Ye?

43:36

We have a guy in the back, Mario, who has

43:39

Dobbins on his team, and he emailed yesterday

43:42

the group said should I play Dobbins or cam

43:44

Akers for the Rams? And

43:47

uh, we all said Dobbins and then

43:49

cam Akers just had the night of his life last

43:51

night, so you should not pay. I played him in

43:53

two of my leagues and I can't even

43:55

tell. And I'm in the deep playoffs in two of those

43:57

leagues, and I was crying with joy.

44:00

How important is fantasy in your life? More

44:03

important in my family? I

44:06

mean, my friends think I

44:08

have an issue. They really, they

44:10

really do, because I take it so. I love it so

44:13

much. I have so much fun.

44:15

I'm so passionate about it that

44:17

it takes up a lot of my life. Have you met Russell

44:19

Wilson. I have not met

44:21

Russell Wilson. I'm a big

44:24

fan, though, I can make that happen too.

44:27

Oh, I'd love that, you know, because I'm from Vancouver, so

44:29

our team is the Seahawks. Yeah, so it's

44:31

weird when you go around Vancouver you see all these

44:33

people in Seahawks uniforms. We all were

44:36

big Seahawks fans. Can

44:38

we play we have something called stat

44:41

of the day, and I have Will

44:44

Ferrell has done it, Darius Rucker has done

44:46

it. And all it is is just can

44:48

Alan can we play Will Farrell or Darius

44:51

Rucker? Just to give Michael an

44:53

idea of what it sounds like. Stat

44:55

of the day, stat of the day, that

44:58

past, stat of the days, Dad of

45:00

the day. Here comes

45:03

that what stat of the day? Okay,

45:07

so that's Will Ferrell, is Ron Burgundy, Um,

45:10

here's Melissa Ethridge whoa

45:14

stat of the day? Start of a day,

45:17

start out of the day, start out of the day.

45:20

This is the stat of the day.

45:27

And then here's Darius Rucker

45:33

that of the day that day,

45:37

Here comes the stat of the

45:39

day as stat of the day, stat

45:42

of the day, Here comes

45:46

the stat of the day. Now

45:50

I'm gonna put you on the spot. You could either do it here

45:52

or if you wanted to go to your recording studio

45:54

and dress it up and you could do it that way,

45:57

so I could do it like a serious production

45:59

of it. Yeah, Like, I'll let you have that

46:01

option, because can I

46:03

I would I would do both. I would do one

46:05

live here and I would give you I would give

46:08

you a massive orc saventy. Okay,

46:11

all right, so uh it's

46:14

you acapella, so bump

46:16

bump, bump, stat of the day,

46:19

stat of the day. Oh

46:22

baby, it's the statu of the day.

46:25

Stat of the day, stat

46:28

of the day. It's

46:30

the statu of the day. Wow.

46:35

Grammys. Uh,

46:41

you're welcome back anytime. And if

46:43

you come around in the Northeast and New York,

46:45

we're we're, we're we're coming right

46:47

to be there. What a blast that would be. Thank

46:49

you guys so much, and thank you and

46:52

good luck with the album that is not new,

46:54

but it feels like it's new every Christmas.

46:57

Thank you, Thank you, buddy, Thanks for having that is

46:59

my Chael Boubley, Michael Boobs

47:02

joining us on the program. Thanks for listening

47:04

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47:06

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