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later on today on the Trigger Here on

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the Dan Patrick Show. Yesterday

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afternoon, I was sitting around, I was by

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myself, and I started

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to think about the call we had yesterday from

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Cody in Tennessee, played in the SEC

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and he's a punter, and we were talking about recruiting,

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and I started to laugh out loud that here

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is a punter in the SEC who

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got a tahoe. Now

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I don't know what the quarterback got, but he

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at the punter got a tahoe. He said,

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yeah. I went down to the dealership and

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I filled out the paperwork and then the

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guy runs the dealership made the payments for

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me. I gotta used tahoe. Welcome

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to the SEC. By the way, I don't

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know if you guys heard this, but Paul Feinbaum,

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he is the fine commentator for

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ESPN and the voice of the SEC.

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He was on that pop show Get Up, and

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he talked about Nick Saban being

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on the hot seat and said this. I

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don't want this to sound blasphemous,

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but time is running out on Nick Saban.

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It's been two years since he's won a national championship.

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Two seasons. That's a long time. He hasn't gone

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that far or that long at Alabama

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since the early part of his career there. And

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I think this is his best team this

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season is unknown at this point,

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however, there are

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many other programs catching

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up a little bit. It's no longer you can no longer

1:35

make a blanket statement. Nick Saban's going to

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win a bunch of a bunch of national championships.

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All right, that's Paul Feinbaum with I believe

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Paul's dog barking in

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the back there. But all right,

1:47

at least we're talking some football here.

1:49

I got a puncher getting a car in

1:51

the SEC and Nick Saban's on the hot

1:53

seat. All right, I'm good

1:55

with that. We're slowly moving

1:57

past this pandemic. Yes, Paul. In

1:59

the past five seasons,

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Nick Saban has six losses

2:04

in five seasons. Two of those losses

2:06

are in the national title games. So during the regular

2:08

season he's lost three games in the

2:10

past five years. I don't know what like

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Nick Saban on the hot seat means. What

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if Nick Saban somehow gets back to the national

2:18

title game, or he goes to the Final four and

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he doesn't win. If he doesn't win a

2:22

title in the next two years, does

2:25

Nick would Alabama ever fire Nick

2:27

Saban? Yeah? McLeman, this

2:29

is a joke, right, He's being totally

2:31

funny, isn't he. You can't

2:33

possibly be I don't know. I don't know if

2:35

you try to be funny when you're on the show Get Up,

2:38

it's pretty serious, yeah, season, but right,

2:41

I mean he can't possibly be serious?

2:45

Yeah. Boy, I didn't listen to the rest of it. But

2:47

the only angle you could see down south

2:49

looking at Nick Saban is if he

2:51

loses a couple more national titles

2:53

or another national title to Clemson this year.

2:56

Everyone has always said that Dabo Sweeney would

2:58

want to be the Alabama head coach someday.

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He's younger, he's got a longer future ahead of him.

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That is the only mitigating factor here

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is that if somehow Dabo said

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I do want the Alabama job, that

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could happen in the next three

3:13

or four years, when it didn't seem like that could ever happen.

3:16

I don't know if Nick's on the hot seat, but

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if he's on the hot seat only because of Dabo

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Sweeney's success at Clemson, and

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I've maintained I would rather if I'm

3:25

Dabo Sweeney, stay at Clemson. Although

3:27

what's been going on at Clemson, maybe he'll

3:30

look for a way out and maybe

3:32

Alabama would be that escape there for

3:34

him if he actually maybe escape is

3:36

a strong word there. But if

3:39

I'm Dabo SWEENEYO, stay at Clemson. You're

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building a dynasty there. You don't

3:43

need to go. If you go to Alabama, then you're compared

3:45

to Nick Saban. Stay at Clemson,

3:48

creating your own legacy there. Yeah, I'm clem

3:50

there's no I'm a system guy, right, Alabama

3:52

is not the system. It's one hundred percent saving

3:55

Yeah for us him They what I don't remember

3:57

what when's the last championship the

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Night Indies? Yeah, they I

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think ninety one with George Tigue and those guys.

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Yeah, they didn't have a good run there of coaches

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and as a result, a

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good run of players. But Nick coming in and al

4:11

Dabo Sweeney. But I don't know, just kind of

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when I heard Paul Feinbaum say it, and I

4:16

have great respect for Paul, but thinking

4:18

he's on the hot seed here. You

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know you're not winning championships. Yeah, you're

4:24

getting to the championship game

4:26

though. Yes, mcloven, you're

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right. It is fun to get back. Every

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college football does it. Doesn't It engender itself

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to these kind of arguments all the time. Yeah, a little

4:36

bit. But and look, maybe it's

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just a hot take from Paul, but I

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just liked that it was actually had something

4:43

to do with something that's closely related

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to actual football. Yeah, Paul, but

4:47

if you look at Alabama fans are quite

4:49

spoiled the past ten years. Last

4:51

year Alabama went eleven and two and won

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the Citrus Bault. That's a disaster. That

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is horrendous. And I'm not you

4:58

think I'm joking if you're an alb I'm a football

5:00

fan. That was a poor season, okay, But for

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them, if they don't win the title in the next two

5:05

years, do you think that Nick Saban

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would be fired? Because

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if you're on the hot seat, no, not fired, okay,

5:12

but if you're on the hot seat, what happens when you're on the hot

5:14

seat, you get fired. But if behind

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the scenes, somehow, Dabo Sweeney said

5:19

got it to Alabama's management got it to the athletic

5:21

director and present. Then I'm ready when

5:23

you call that changes thing. This

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is not a traditional situation, but you would have to fire

5:28

him because if you bring in Dabo

5:30

Sweeney, we know what it looks like

5:33

and feels like and what it is. You're

5:35

firing Nick Saban. I can't imagine

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that Nick Saban's on the hot seat given the

5:40

success. Now, Jim Horrorball, Why

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isn't Jim Harball is not on the hot seat and

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Nick Saban is? Dabos Sweeney calls Michigan,

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Jim Harball's on the hot seat. Let me tell you that. Yes,

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Nick love Dabo Sweeney. What's no part of the SEC

5:53

schedule he's got He's got

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that a SEC schedule. Dude, you want to follow

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Nick Saban and Alabama and start playing good team?

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No, I hear see, he loves that. Would

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stay at Clemson absolutely positively,

6:04

Yes, Todd. Was Marv Levy ever

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on the hot seat? Four straight Super Bowls?

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Even though he lost all four? Was there ever

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any talk after any one of those four, even after

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the fourth one, that it's time to move on? I

6:15

don't remember. It's ridiculous, Yeah,

6:17

Paul, Nick Saban sixty eight years old.

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Dabbo is fifty. That is a drastic

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difference. If you told me, if I had to put

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a week's pay that in five years the head coach Alabama's

6:26

Nick Saban Dabbos Sweeney, I would take Dabo in

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the next five years. Yeah, two years.

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Yeah, but we're talking about being on the hot seat. This

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will be Hey, Nick, we

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want to make it seem like you're stepping down,

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even though if Dabbo Sweeney takes over,

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we know Nick is being encouraged

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to step down. All right, I got

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sidetracked here, but hey, that's

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the program. It was fun to talk a

6:50

little bit of sports there, talk

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to some college football. All right, welcome

6:55

to the program. It's our one on this Friday.

6:57

Coming up, we'll talk to him Chris

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mad Dog Russo, one of the first

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real popular radio hosts.

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Sports radio host him and Mike Franz Sessor

7:08

on the fan Mike and the mad

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Dog So. Chris will join us, and he also works

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for the MLB network. I thought Chris would be passionate

7:14

about what's going on with Major League Baseball

7:16

right now? Are we going to have a season?

7:18

And of course we love to blame people so we'll

7:21

talk to Chris about who's he putting

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the blame on. Right now, your

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phone calls are always welcome. H seven seven three

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DP show. We're gonna have Judd Appatau

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on. He's got a new movie, The King of Staaten

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Island with Pete Davidson, Marissa

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Tomay, Bill Burr in that movie.

7:38

We'll talk to him a little bit later on Doug

7:40

Williams, the former quarterbacks

7:42

Super Bowl winning quarterback with the Washington Redskins.

7:45

There's going to be a film based on his life,

7:48

and Doug will join us coming up next hour.

7:50

It will be I'm guessing, pretty

7:53

powerful, pretty emotional, because he's going to talk

7:55

about all the things that he went through to

7:57

try to stay in the NFL. And

8:00

at one point he said, I was a starting quarterback

8:03

and I was the fifty fourth highest

8:05

paid quarterback in the NFL, And

8:08

if you do the math, that means just about

8:10

every backup quarterback was making more than Doug

8:12

Williams was. We'll talk to Doug, who

8:15

is not the first African American quarterback

8:17

drafted in the first round. I believe Al

8:19

Davis and the Raiders had

8:23

a quarterback back in the late sixties. Do

8:25

you have his name, McLevin Eldred's

8:27

Dickey, I believe was AFL,

8:30

people are pointing out. Okay, so the drafts

8:32

were a little different, right, like, yes, Well,

8:34

the AFL was taking players

8:37

from historically black colleges. The

8:40

AFL was instrumental in

8:43

giving these players a chance to play.

8:46

And there were a lot of these players who if they had

8:48

they might not have been drafted by the NFL, or

8:50

if they did, they would have gone late. But the AFL

8:53

opened their doors and brought in these

8:55

great players from you know, historically

8:58

black colleges. Yeah, mclub, Yeah said Tennessee

9:00

State. But he never played quarterback.

9:03

Once he got to the Raiders,

9:05

he moved to wide receiver. Okay, that's

9:07

what I remember him from, because I

9:09

was surprised that you didn't remember him very well.

9:12

Yeah, I remember the name, but

9:14

I don't remember him ever playing quarterback. Yeh,

9:16

never took a snap with the Raiders head quarterback.

9:18

All right, we'll come up with the poll question. We got

9:21

a stat of the day. We got to play of the day as well.

9:24

And I don't know if you're like me, and

9:26

you've completely switched up your weekend routine

9:28

during the pandemic because gone or the countless

9:30

hours sitting on my couch watching TV. I

9:33

get to spend quality time with my family.

9:36

I'm even starting projects around the

9:38

house. In fact, I've started a lot of projects

9:40

around the house. I don't finish the projects, but I've

9:42

started a lot of them. But I'm happy

9:44

to say all that productivity is going straight

9:46

out the window because the Charles

9:48

Schwab Challenge not

9:51

normally must see TV. It

9:54

might as well be the Masters to me watching

9:56

it yesterday. And I

9:59

don't care who in this. I know that they've

10:01

talked about some of the big names are in there,

10:03

but I'm gladly entertained

10:06

by Kevin Kissner or Ian Poulter,

10:08

Mark Leishman or Kevin Nah doesn't

10:11

matter. I know the Tiger's not there,

10:13

but you know Brooks keptas there, You got

10:15

Rory there, Jordan Speed.

10:18

But those household projects are

10:20

less and less likely to get done. Looking

10:23

forward to spending my Sunday afternoons watching

10:25

somebody else work there. All right,

10:27

mcclevin, what kind of poll questions do you have for me today?

10:29

We have all sorts of inane pole questions.

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Okay, first question, it's chili

10:56

dog Friday here at the man Cave. Do

10:58

you prefer a chili dog or a

11:01

hot dog with ketchup and mustard? Because

11:03

that was the this side of the glass,

11:05

huge fiery debate this morning. I

11:08

can like both, right, definitely, Okay,

11:10

definitely, But you're at a ballpark. You have one in front of you,

11:12

which you tend to do. If I'm at a ballpark

11:15

hot dog. If I'm

11:17

doing a like a barbecue, then I'm

11:19

doing chili dog. Good call. Yeah, yeah,

11:21

Paul, I love chili dogs. I grew up on chili

11:23

dogs. But chili dog you want to be in

11:25

a more controlled setting, like a backyard

11:28

or like a burger stand where you're kind of not

11:30

with people around watching, kind of like barbecue rips.

11:33

Yeah, I got to control the environment. There. Yeah,

11:35

that's a good call. Yeah, so I'm a little more

11:37

of a hot dog purist, I think, and

11:40

then I just go mustard. But

11:43

yeah, me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

11:45

guess the occasional chili dog. There must be room

11:47

for it, right, But I didn't grow up in a big chili

11:49

dog area like Paul did. Mclubin. What

11:51

else do you have? Wow? I mean I feel

11:53

like we have a winter there. But okay. A couple other questions.

11:57

Henry Ruggs the Raider's first round pick her

11:59

in self moving badly apparently,

12:01

but he's okay right now. If a friend

12:04

asked you to help them move, what is

12:06

your most likely response? Yes, what can I

12:08

do to help? Maybe? How much

12:10

stuff do you have? Or see? No, under

12:12

any circumstances. No, what I say is,

12:15

you know, I have a guy that I work with. His

12:17

name is Tyler the moderator. Let me

12:19

call Tyler because Tyler will

12:21

help out for

12:23

real. Yeah, yeah,

12:25

you pay him, but I would have time.

12:28

I'm not lifting anything. What

12:30

about a while ago? Like? No,

12:32

No, the best money I spend is

12:34

when I spend it on somebody else to do some work.

12:37

What else do you have? Okay,

12:40

you're getting some shaky heads over what you

12:43

wish. The friend wouldn't ask you to help them move, but

12:46

if they ask you to help the move, you kind

12:48

of have to say yes. Depends on

12:50

what we're moving. I got asked about four years ago to

12:52

help a buddy in Vermont just load up a truck of stuff.

12:54

And it was raining and it was sloppy

12:56

and messy, but he needed help. He was in a jam

12:59

and he probably could have hired a mover, but it wasn't

13:01

that big of a move. In that situation, I felt obliged.

13:04

I didn't bother me. Yeah. See, yeah,

13:07

I think there's if you're asked, you must go.

13:11

It's kind of that's why it's it's asking people

13:13

is so tricky. But you know you got to provide

13:15

like some pizza and beer or something like that. Oh yeah, pizza,

13:18

beer. But somebody asks you to move. It can't be like, oh I can't.

13:20

Well I could, because I'd say this back.

13:23

Man, it acts up. Oh

13:26

man, you know I had shoulder surgery recently,

13:28

I have a knee replaced, and man, i'd love

13:30

to If you're Henry Ruggs,

13:33

you just got drafted at number thirteen. He's

13:35

got money. That's where Henry Ruggs says,

13:37

as a good buddy, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm

13:39

gonna go and get somebody to help you move.

13:42

I've moved a hundred times in my life and

13:45

never got hurt. You never got stabbed, Nope,

13:48

not once. That feels like it goes

13:51

back to a story that I was told by

13:53

Rob Dibble, the former Nasty Boy,

13:55

and he said that their players

13:58

were out drinking one night and a guy stepped

14:00

off the curb and really hurt his ankle

14:02

badly. And I don't know if

14:04

he broke his ankle, but it severely

14:07

sprained it. The next day, they got him to

14:09

the ballpark, got him in uniform, got him

14:11

in the outfield, and then he fell down

14:13

as if he just fell down out there

14:15

and convinced management that he had

14:17

gotten hurt in the field and had nothing

14:19

to do with drinking the night before.

14:22

What else do you have? Nicklevin Okay,

14:25

golf question for you guys, this

14:27

is curious. Would you rather have if I give you one

14:29

a hole in one or take two shouts off your

14:31

handicap in a year, which is a more

14:33

satisfying thing. I'm just curious because there's

14:36

been a few hole and ones on social media and tournaments

14:38

lately. What's a bigger deal for golfers?

14:40

I don't golf like that. I don't know. Well, it depends on

14:43

what my handicap is. If it's twenty

14:45

five and I go to twenty three, who cares. But

14:47

if I get a hole in one, a lot of people care.

14:49

Now if I'm a five and I go down to a three,

14:52

then I would take that over a hole in one. If

14:55

you're comfortably answering this, do you know your handicap

14:57

right now? I'm not sure. No, because I haven't played a enough

15:02

in the last six years. I haven't played

15:04

enough to get a handicap. But

15:06

I'm probably maybe

15:09

eleven or twelve something like that. I'm guessing.

15:11

I was down to a five at one point when I

15:13

didn't care about my career or my family, but

15:17

I was reminded by my wife that I should care about

15:19

both of those. Yes, Paint. Do you think the average person listening

15:22

out there knows what a golf handicap is if

15:24

you don't play golf regularly. Probably

15:28

not, because I when I

15:30

was young and I didn't really understand the phrase because

15:33

it was just getting into golf. But I was like, my

15:35

handicaps eight. I was like, I go, yeah.

15:37

I was just nod my head at people because I didn't know what it meant.

15:40

Well, Tiger's handicap, So

15:43

Tiger has a handicap, and

15:45

Tiger's handicap is eight

15:48

and a half, but

15:50

the other way, so he would

15:52

have to give so minus eight

15:55

and a half to par. I

15:57

think, is what his hand is? Something crazy? That's

15:59

what his hand cap is? Yes, Todd, Yeah,

16:01

I was like, uh, Like Paulie, I thought that

16:04

that meant that someone just was trying to get

16:06

pat some kind of a problem that they had

16:08

growing up or something like. I didn't know it was about taking

16:10

strokes off of what you're expected to finish

16:13

for par. Oh wait, you thought somebody who

16:15

said they had a handicap they had some kind of physical

16:17

disability of some sort that

16:19

they were trying to overcome. And but I didn't understand

16:21

what two off would or four off of that would.

16:23

You're not making a joke, right, I'm being serious

16:26

because I didn't really watch golf at all. I would watch

16:28

with my grandfather and their apartment building,

16:30

and when I was a kid, I didn't understand what that tournament

16:32

at all, and I still couldn't define it clearly. I

16:34

know it doesn't mean that it means something after having

16:36

getting close to what par for the course would

16:38

be and adding strokes based on your

16:41

not being that good at golf. I have a problem sometimes

16:43

when it comes to the betting odds where somebody

16:45

says it's seven to two and then another one

16:47

is three three to one, and then you go which one's

16:50

better, and I'll go like, I don't know. Maybe

16:54

that's why I didn't, you know, I don't continue

16:56

to gamble. People don't like admitting they don't know things.

16:58

Though a lot of people yeah, yeah,

17:00

yeah, yeah, I love the under. I can't exactly

17:02

explain what horse handicapping is, but I know, like,

17:04

oh, he's a handicapper. You know. I've said that

17:06

turned my whole life, not though he exactly. I

17:08

would love to be at auto mechanic who knew exactly

17:11

what they were talking about, just to see the number of

17:13

times that people come in and act like I do

17:15

when I go to have somebody

17:17

work on my car, when they they just start

17:19

spewing stuff and you're going, yep, all right,

17:22

and then you wonder they could

17:24

slip in anything, and I'd go, yep, I

17:26

agree, Yeah, the compressor,

17:29

combustible compressor with a double

17:31

shot and whatever, four on the floor,

17:34

pull a whole shot, yep, all of those

17:36

things, all right. Nineteen after the hour, we'll

17:38

take a break Chris mad Dog Russo

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17:50

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fa N. He's Chris Russo still rolling

18:58

on Mad Dog Sports Radio Sirius XM.

19:01

You can hear his show, Mad Dog Unleashed

19:03

every weekday afternoon at three. And

19:05

he's on the MLB Network show High Heat

19:07

with Christopher Russo and we say

19:09

good morning to mad Dog. Hello foul, How

19:11

are you? How about anybody?

19:14

You know what I've been totally into lately and I've

19:16

watched it nine million times. It's right up your

19:18

valley. Have you seen that Laurel Canyon

19:20

show on Epics, that two part thing on the

19:22

late sixties with music in southern

19:25

California? Have you watched that yet. Yes, I

19:27

have watched it. There's been a couple on

19:29

that. There was a David

19:32

Crosby has a bio

19:34

yeah on him as well about that whole region

19:36

and all the music that was birth

19:39

there and Laurel Canyon Man. It's been

19:41

good. God,

19:43

I can't Dana, I can't enough for it.

19:46

I'm a little and I'm a little too

19:48

young. I was ten years old with Woodstock, Eddie

19:50

Coleman, my pal was at Woodstock. A

19:53

little too young, but boy, oh boy,

19:55

I can't get enough of that with you know,

19:57

the Birds CS and of course

20:00

Morrison Jackson Brown, who I love.

20:02

Anyway, Oh, I can't get up. I figured you'd be

20:04

into that because that's led up your out So how how

20:06

I I'm good talking about that? Things good?

20:09

Yeah, your first concert

20:11

what wasn't first concert

20:13

was the Outlaws and then no,

20:15

I'm sorry, Loggins and Messina

20:18

at all at Sienna

20:20

in nineteen seventy probably

20:23

nineteen seventy five. That was my first one.

20:25

First time I saw Bruce was

20:28

at the Palace Theater in Albany,

20:30

May of nineteen seventy eight. I was eighteen

20:33

and let's see, the first

20:35

time I saw the Who at the I sawed

20:37

the Who at Shay and I saw

20:39

a Rolling Stones a thousand times, but I missed

20:41

the big ones. Said, I didn't see Grateful Dead.

20:44

I did not see uh CSN.

20:47

You know, I didn't see obviously Hendricks

20:50

or the Doors. I missed some of those big ones.

20:52

But at least I saw the Who in the Rolling Stone. I

20:54

don't know if you missed anything not seeing the Grateful

20:56

Dead. Just go to a fish concert and that's basically

20:59

the same field their dog good point. Yeah, yes,

21:02

but I know there was a period there. I used

21:04

to love those concerts, and I kind

21:06

of wish I was around in nineteen sixty nine

21:08

because I would have ventured the Bethel, New York,

21:11

and I would have been put out a half a million flong there

21:14

with woodstock. Anyway, where

21:16

do you stay? Where did you stand? On the Jordan documentary?

21:19

Oh? I loved it. I mean I understand

21:21

that he had finals say and everything else. I

21:24

mean I loved it. I thought the ker one

21:26

in episode nine was superb with his father.

21:30

You know, I thought the Pistons stuff was great. I

21:32

did a lot of shows based on that on the Monday

21:35

with guests, you know, I did Rod Thorn after

21:37

the first one with the and Lockery

21:40

his first coach. I did. That's two

21:43

I did Kevin, I did Sapuca. You

21:45

know, he wasn't on the Bad Boys, but he knows the

21:47

players. I did that. I

21:49

mean, I did Bang Gundy with the Knicks,

21:51

you know, with the whole Nick thing. So I based

21:53

a lot of my shows, and I know you did the same.

21:56

On the Monday off the Jordan documentary,

21:58

I had the director on. I know you did too, So

22:01

I based a lot of it on that

22:03

show. These shows that we have to do now without

22:05

anything to talk about, and the Jordan

22:08

documentary gave me a lot of content.

22:10

And you know, you and I lived at My

22:12

kids loved it. My eighteen

22:14

year old and my twenty year old, who are huge basketball

22:17

fans, didn't see Jordan play. Couldn't

22:20

get enough of it Sunday at nine

22:22

o'clock. So that tells you how good it was in my eyes.

22:24

Would we allow that player to exist

22:26

today on and

22:28

off the court. Probably

22:30

not, you know, as far as you know, being rough

22:32

to his teammates and you know sort

22:35

of the you know, not saying anything. With the

22:38

racial injustice going on, it's

22:40

a little different. Today. The game would be a little

22:42

different too. I mean, he'd probably be better because

22:45

you know, they wouldn't be able to bang him around so much,

22:47

and you wouldn't be able to do some of the things Detroit

22:49

did and and

22:51

the Knicks did. Uh and you know I did.

22:53

Bob Wenzel. Two, here's a good story that you'll

22:55

like, Danny before we do the baseball. I had wenzelon

22:59

because he pruded him. He was a duke with Bill

23:01

Foster when Jordan was coming out of high school

23:04

and I asked Wensel about it, and the first time

23:06

he saw him at the five star camps everything else.

23:08

And Wenzel went to South Carolina

23:10

after the duke days at eighty with Foster

23:12

and he recruited Jordan and I said, really, well,

23:15

tell me, He said, yeah, I got him to go to campus.

23:18

Two. His parents came to Columbia,

23:20

and it's funny. We went to the governor's

23:22

house, his mansion, and he had

23:24

a basketball court, and all

23:27

Jordan wanted to do was the seventeen year old was

23:29

take the governor's kids out and play basketball

23:31

in the basketball court hunt a governor's

23:33

mansion. He listened, in my eyes,

23:36

it's not even close he's the best player

23:38

of all time in my house. We're

23:40

talking to Chris mad Dog Russo, host

23:42

of High Heat on MLB Network of

23:44

course, mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM.

23:47

We're gonna have baseball, Yeah,

23:49

I think we'll Yeah. I think we're gonna have baseball then.

23:51

Man, I don't think it's going to be a Kumbaya moment

23:54

necessarily, and I think that's what baseball

23:56

needed, was none of this mistrust

23:59

with these negotiations right now and come

24:01

out and play July fourth with

24:03

an eighty game season. I think that

24:05

moment is passed. I don't think we're

24:08

gonna have that. Obviously, you can't get ready for July

24:10

fourth. These sides. There's a lot of mistrust

24:12

here. I think they figure

24:14

something out, but I think the moment

24:16

where they can sort of bring back America sports

24:19

wise has passed, which is unfortunate. I

24:21

think somebody's going to have to be the big

24:24

boy in the room. Somebody's going to have to

24:26

realize that, you know what, for the good of the world,

24:28

we're gonna have to come out and play even if we have a

24:30

deal we don't like. And I think that person

24:33

is going to have to be the commissioner. I don't think

24:35

the players are going to budge you up this. I

24:42

don't think the owners are gonna sit there and be very

24:44

happy about giving up. Obviously,

24:47

with no fans giving up, you know, certain

24:49

concessions as far as playing X amount

24:51

of games without any fans, they're gonna lose money. So it's

24:53

going to be up to the commissioner basically throw the bone

24:56

to the players, allow them to get the

24:58

full rated hey

25:00

for the amount of games. And I think he's gonna have

25:02

to say not fifty games because people are not gonna

25:04

like that. But I think he's gonna have to sit there

25:06

and say, all right, we'll play a sixty five

25:09

seventy games schedule. We'll start

25:11

July tenth, July twelfth, and away

25:13

we go with pay them full rate. I think

25:16

that as we're on the way too. As far as this

25:18

negotiation is concerned, Yeah, my concern

25:21

is not this year as much as it is down the

25:23

road when you get this clicked bargaining agreement.

25:25

If I'm the players, and now all of a sudden

25:27

you get this feeling of they want to control us

25:29

with a salary cap, and you

25:31

just start to hear things where and baseball

25:34

is not about it's about the haves and the have nots.

25:36

I mean we talk about Mike Trout and Bryce Harper. They

25:38

make all this money. You know, the majority

25:40

of your baseball union is

25:42

making a million or less, and

25:45

it feels like the owners are sort of catering

25:47

to them to say, hey, we want you guys to get

25:49

paid, but these big ticket items don't

25:52

want to come back your thoughts on me, I

25:54

think that was the I was the pay

25:57

scale scenario, which I think you know

25:59

didn't sit well with the players. I think your original

26:01

point is one hundred percent right. I think

26:03

we got major problems after the two

26:05

thousand and twenty one season and at

26:08

the agreements up in December of that

26:10

year. And I'd be shocked

26:12

if you're gonna have a lot of baseball

26:15

right away after two thousand and twenty

26:17

one. I can see a long dispute. This

26:19

is another reason why if Manford gives them,

26:21

throws him a bone here, gives them a

26:23

win. We never They got beat badly

26:26

in that last CBA and everybody

26:28

knows it. So if he gives them a win, maybe

26:30

that soothes them, you know, bitterness,

26:33

and they get a little something done after two thousand

26:35

and twenty one. But I do think you're one thousand

26:37

percent right. I think two thousand and

26:40

twenty two baseball, you know it's gonna

26:42

have some issues. We're not there yet, obviously, and

26:44

I got to get through this season first. I

26:46

do think you have a year. I don't think you're gonna

26:48

have fans. And I do

26:50

think that they need to not

26:53

jam these games down to twelve. We're gonna

26:55

play fifty games. That's it. They can't say

26:57

that. They got to make the players feel

26:59

at least have them buy in a bit. So

27:01

it's why I think man from will be the guy

27:04

who'll be the big guy in the room. You know, Listen,

27:06

I'm used the pro owner and I am here too,

27:09

But I'll say two things that bother the man. I'll

27:11

use it from both sides. I don't want to hear from Bildwit.

27:14

I don't want to hear from Tom Ricketts, who's

27:16

said some things. I don't want to hear the guy from Arizona

27:19

who went on radio station saying, you know, we don't

27:21

have as much money as you think. I don't want to hear from them.

27:23

Because the ticket refund policy,

27:26

you got to go through page fifty eight to

27:28

get your money back with the ticket refunds, which

27:30

is a display standing. I mean,

27:32

we know you're not gonna play games, give the money

27:34

back, and a lot of these teams the maneuver

27:37

ring, which I can't stand. So I don't want to hear from them. But

27:39

I also don't want to hear from the players, who

27:41

you know gonna tell me on two things,

27:43

Well, we are taking extraordinary risk

27:46

by playing games. Well if that's the case, well

27:48

then why was your proposals one hundred and fourteen

27:50

games? They want more games, So you

27:52

can't tell me it's a health risk if you want to play

27:54

one hundred and fourteen games. And then I want to hear

27:56

the players shun doolittle, tell me what

27:58

we're doing is for the future player who

28:00

comes into the sport. That's why there's Atlanta saying

28:03

they want to know who Kurt Flood was if

28:05

they fell on them from crying out loud. So

28:07

I don't want to hear from the owners about, you know, how

28:10

broke they are. And I don't want to hear the players

28:12

telling me that Norma Rae and Samuel Copper's none

28:15

of them care about the future player and

28:17

the owner doesn't care. Nobody, you know, and look

28:20

at Atlanta for instance. You know that I got

28:22

that beautiful ballpark. Have you been with that village

28:24

around that ballpark in Atlanta? Yes,

28:27

they got shops, restaurants, and

28:29

I'm sure Liberty Media and they own serious

28:32

so I gotta be careful. I'm

28:36

sure Lifty Media got some bibs those

28:38

businesses around the ballpark. Nobody wins.

28:41

The bottom line, it's a mess. The whole thing's a message.

28:44

When you first started out, when you when

28:46

you're people are saying, well, you got a voice

28:48

that sounds like I think it was George Vessie.

28:50

At the Times, it was a combination Jerry

28:53

Lewis, Archie Bunker and Daffy Duck.

28:56

Now this is in the New York Times that

28:58

they're saying this, what did do you let

29:00

him in too? If you ever seen that

29:03

one appearance, I didn't let him in the first

29:05

one. He spent seven minutes

29:07

making fun of my voice. Look,

29:10

honey, that gave Donald Duck a show, and

29:12

I was just famous line. Yeah, you're

29:14

right, that voice, you know it has

29:16

always it served me, well, why don't you get

29:19

used to it? But you know, here's the key,

29:21

Dan, you know this you did. You have to

29:23

be able to make fun of yourself a little bit. And

29:26

so you know, listen, make fun

29:28

of me all you want. Just put the radio tuned

29:30

into all the stations I worked

29:32

at all these years. Do you remember

29:34

your first show that you

29:37

that you and Mike co host? Yeah?

29:39

Oh I did. Yeah, I remember the first show I've

29:41

ever I ever did as a talk show was in Jacksonville

29:43

and eighty three and the boss his

29:46

son, worked with me on a Saturday morning. He was in

29:48

March of eighty three and he was a

29:50

big wrestling fan. So that was a disaster. I'll

29:54

be talking Rick Flair, who I had no idea who

29:56

it was. The first

29:58

show, the first show with

30:00

Mike was in Labor Day

30:02

at eighty nine and Brandon

30:05

Steiner of Steiner's Sports brought

30:07

over sweaters to you

30:09

know, basically inaugurate

30:12

the first Mike and the Meddog show and all

30:14

the F A N employees were

30:17

in the studio watching Mike

30:19

and I start on at

30:21

the day after Labor Day. I remember that was right after Bartie

30:23

Monti died. So you know, we had you

30:26

know, we had the Rose thing, and we had many.

30:28

So we had something, you know, a terrible story,

30:30

but we had a big topic right out of the

30:32

gate. But that is where I remember.

30:35

It was the day after Labor Day and it was nineteen

30:37

eighty nine

30:41

match day and nobody had We had never

30:44

done a show together. We didn't know each other

30:46

that well. Franklin had screwed up his

30:48

contract, the late Pete Franklin, and he left,

30:50

and Mark Mason decided to throw Mike and me

30:52

on together, and you know it was it

30:55

was a different time. Were you doing Sports

30:57

Enterne and nine? By the way, with Over, I think I just

30:59

got there. I had left CNN. I

31:01

didn't start with Keith until a few years

31:03

in so because we used to

31:05

have you want It. You remember at the Super Bowl. Yeah,

31:07

you were always the first guest all a week

31:10

or NBA Finals. I remember NBA

31:12

Finals that I don't ninety three

31:14

Phoenix had. Yeah, you know,

31:16

we did the Chicago Phoenix. Oh. All

31:19

the time you used that you were a big Mike

31:21

and a mad Dog fan and you came on constantly.

31:23

Yeah, I thought you were on right around the same

31:25

time we were. So you started with Open a little later. Well,

31:28

I remember telling you that you were working

31:30

weekends at the Fan, and I was

31:32

peeling off wallpaper in my house

31:34

in West Hartford, and I was listening

31:37

to Dog and my wife goes, who

31:39

is that and how did he get that job?

31:42

And I said, that's mad Dog Russo and

31:45

she goes that voice

31:48

and I said, yeah, I said, but that

31:50

is it's different than other voices. But the

31:53

first guy I ever worked for was Jane

31:55

Burns, who was a great talk to your host who

31:57

passed away. He worked at the r KO and Ball

32:00

Austin Oar in New York, and he hired me at

32:04

KS in Orlando. So did Mike Guyer who's

32:06

passed away too. He was a gym and guy Or put Bob

32:08

Trumping on here in Cincinnati have

32:10

to Trump he retired, he gave him a sports

32:12

talk show on LW and Cincinnati, so he knew

32:15

sports talk stuff. And they said

32:17

the same thing, Chris, Listen, your voice is a problem,

32:19

especially in Central Florida or a New Yorker.

32:21

It's gonna take some getting used to, but

32:24

you know you've got a goofy delivery. Screw

32:27

up all the languages and all the words they want.

32:29

Just just go on there and do a

32:31

sports talk show, and we'll see what happens.

32:33

You know, it's funny. The inaugural I

32:36

went down to Orlando in eighty three

32:38

to do two shows on

32:41

the weekend as sort of you know, audition

32:43

shows because they were looking to hire a sports talk guy

32:45

during the week And the first day I went down there,

32:47

they put me on Sunday Night eight to ten. I

32:50

did not get one call. So

32:52

if you can do Sunday Night

32:54

in Orlando, Florida in nineteen,

32:57

this would have been in eighty four, in nine

33:00

day four without a corp for two

33:02

hours and you can somehow get through the show, you

33:04

can do sports talk by the month. You can do sports

33:06

talk. Oh it's good to talk to you, dog. You're

33:08

the man, Danny. How are you doing everything? Okay, I haven't seen

33:11

you in a long time. Things good, everything's good,

33:13

everything's good, No no complaints. I think I

33:15

saw you at the All Star Game in DC was the last

33:17

time I saw. It's time and every time I

33:19

see somebody's struggle at

33:22

with these post celebratory championships

33:24

on the stage, with all these players,

33:26

whether it's football or basketball, I think a board,

33:29

Dan Patrick, time, how

33:31

many time you have to sit up there and try to do shows,

33:33

but everybody accelerating a championship wasn't

33:36

easy. Hey, well, we'll

33:38

come visit you one of these days. It's serious. Good

33:40

boy, Danny, Thanks you everybody that's mad

33:42

Dog russo you can listen to him

33:44

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33:47

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33:50

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34:32

what's the poll question? This is an oldie

34:34

bedgody. We've done this one before with the Charles

34:37

Schwab Challenge being such a big tournament.

34:39

Would you rather win five regular

34:41

golf tournaments in a year or just one

34:43

major? So I'll go five to one race here? Oh,

34:46

okay, what's the major? It doesn't

34:48

matter because well, I'll take

34:50

the Masters. I can't guarantee

34:53

you the Masters. It's got the dice. You

34:55

might get the PGA. Oh,

34:58

but you don't know what. I'll just give you one major. I

35:00

can't give you the Masters. Okay,

35:03

but at the end of the day, they count majors, you

35:05

know. I know PGA

35:07

is the same. Yeah, But

35:10

if I won the Players Championship as party,

35:12

can I pick my five events that I'm going to win

35:15

If I'm not going to win a major, I tell you the casual

35:17

fan. I know the TPC is a big deal,

35:19

but it's still not a major though. Oh I

35:21

know. But if I can win the Players Championship,

35:24

which is as close as we have to another major,

35:26

and I get four other events that I can

35:28

pick when I'm winning, then I would

35:30

probably do that. Okay,

35:33

instead of checking my chance that

35:35

I'm going to win the PGA, I just ripped

35:37

four pieces of paper and put

35:39

the US Open, British Open, PGA, and

35:41

Masters, saw sprinkle them up, and then

35:44

Seaton picked one out, so that would be the one you'd have.

35:46

Okay, what's the one I'm winning? And here we go,

35:49

big drum roll, And the major

35:51

that I am winning is Master's

35:54

Champion den pick. Yes, thank you,

35:56

thank you. That's

35:59

worth the gamble. I'll take it. I'll take

36:01

the Masters over five tournament

36:03

events, but only that. That'd

36:05

be the only event I would take. Is this one gonna

36:07

be a little elevated since it's the first one back?

36:10

Oh? Yes, well it's elevated

36:12

because for a variety of reasons, the

36:14

placement in the sports calendar here, the

36:16

weather and everything else

36:18

that's going to be surrounding it at the time,

36:21

with our fans going to be allowed to go to Augusta

36:24

by then, yeah, I don't know

36:26

where we're going to be in September, Like

36:29

if you look where we've been in the last

36:31

three months to where we're going to be in

36:33

three months from now, That's

36:35

what I wondered about this with the NBA.

36:38

I don't know if people are surprised like I

36:40

am. It felt like and I was

36:42

giving the Commissioner Silver a lot of credit. It's

36:44

like, hey, they got it all buttoned up. Seems like

36:46

everybody's on the same page. Nothing's

36:48

leaked out. You got Chris Paul and

36:50

some of the powerbrokers involved in this,

36:53

and then all of a sudden they go in, we're going to

36:55

start in Orlando, and this is what it means, and

36:58

you can't get out of the bubble, and

37:02

you're going to be down there as much as three months.

37:04

If your team continues to win. Then

37:06

all of a sudden, you go, oh,

37:08

here's a report. Forty to fifty players

37:10

not quite sure if they want to go to Orlando. I'm

37:12

going wait a minute, how

37:14

does that happen that you don't realize

37:17

that forty to fifty players, which is

37:19

a lot in the NBA, considering

37:22

you have twenty two teams. If you do the math, I

37:24

got forty or fifty players who aren't quite sure if

37:26

they want to go through this. And the better

37:28

you are, the longer you play, the longer you're quarantine.

37:31

There. My point is, let's

37:34

say we get to September. Why

37:37

don't we look at the Eastern Conference Western

37:39

Conference? Are we going to be able to hold those

37:42

in the arenas? With these two teams

37:44

that are in the Eastern Conference Finals in the Western

37:47

Conference Finals? Why do I

37:49

have to have Orlando as the be all

37:51

end all if you want to start there?

37:54

Can I get to September and

37:56

then I have the Western Conference Finals.

37:58

Let's say it's the Lakers and

38:01

Rockets, and those two

38:03

teams are going to be going back and forth chartered

38:06

planes, no fans in the arena,

38:09

But now I have a true home court advantage,

38:11

the travel is controlled. I

38:14

just think we're trying to solve everything

38:17

in the moment instead of looking at this

38:19

big picture. Where are we going

38:21

to be in three months? Are we going

38:23

to have fans? How many fans? Where

38:25

are we going to be? Is there another wave

38:27

of the coronavirus? Maybe there's none,

38:30

But that's the plan that I would want to have.

38:33

If Toronto plays Philadelphia for the

38:35

Eastern Conference Finals, or Milwaukee

38:38

or whoever it is, Milwaukee

38:40

to Toronto, Toronto to Milwaukee,

38:42

it's not that far. Now. When

38:44

we get to the NBA Finals, that'll

38:47

be a little trickier. But you have

38:49

private planes, private hotels,

38:52

and if no fans are there, then

38:55

at least I have a home court advantage.

38:57

Then at least there's we've played this season

39:00

for something, the regular

39:02

season, and that's a home court advantage. And

39:05

I think that that's important, but I don't want

39:07

to I just don't want it under one umbrella

39:09

where we go, Yeah, and this is gonna work.

39:12

Everybody's gonna be here for three and a

39:14

half months. How long before

39:17

I've been in Orlando going to

39:19

Disney World with the kids. That wears

39:21

off after about four days. I

39:24

want to go home. After four days, Hey,

39:27

glench, go outside and play with the kids in the pool.

39:30

Okay, all right, Hey,

39:32

we're gonna go back the Disney

39:35

World. We're gonna go too, and then Universal

39:38

okay, and then you go, God, it's

39:40

so hot. I need to go home. Yeah.

39:43

See, somebody was saying that you finally realize

39:45

just how small of a world it is. After all, it's

39:47

a small that's

39:50

good. Yeah. I think that novelty's

39:52

gonna wear off, and then you can't get out of the bubble,

39:55

and then they're gonna quarantine the

39:57

media. If they go, they have to stay there for three

40:00

and a half months. I

40:02

just think we're going to be at a point in September

40:05

where we would be able to travel and

40:08

you could have the Eastern Conference Western

40:10

Conference Finals and have those games played.

40:13

That just my gut feeling with it. But I

40:15

was shocked when I saw the number. I

40:18

think it was Brian Windhorse, maybe it was Woad

40:20

who said forty to fifty players

40:22

aren't quite sure if they want to come back

40:25

and play, and if my team has no chance

40:27

of winning a championship, I don't

40:29

want to go. If I'm

40:31

on the if I played for San Antonio and

40:33

LaMarcus Aldridge just went down

40:35

with surgery, I

40:38

don't want to go to Orlando. Now you

40:40

might say, well, you're only going to be there for a couple of weeks.

40:42

I got to have three weeks to get ready for

40:44

what two weeks to play? I

40:47

don't I don't need to go to Orlando. I'm

40:49

good, But can I get paid? Yeah,

40:51

Paul LaMarcus probably got voluntary surgery,

40:53

a quick clean up of the shoulder, didn't even need it. Well,

40:56

you got Bojean Mugdanovitch

40:58

with the Jazz. He had risk surgery

41:00

and he's had a great year. He's down

41:03

I don't know coming

41:06

up. Pete Carroll says

41:08

he had a coach call about

41:10

Colin Kaepernick. Oh I didn't. Pete

41:12

Carroll signed Colin Kaepernick and Doug

41:14

Williams, the former Super Bowl winning

41:16

quarterback, will join us as well.