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in for Dan and the Dan. That's today, and Doug, let

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me let me start off the day by wishing

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you a very happy Bobby body a day.

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As you know, let's listen. Every year on

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this day we look back, take stock of our lives,

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and I just get depressed. So I am happy

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to be here with you today on Bobby

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BINDI a day to talk about so many other

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things in the wide world of sports. Why do you get

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depressed? I don't understand deferred payments

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and the whole balance of you know,

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should I should I put money away

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that'll pay me in twenty five years or

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should I take it now? And by

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the way, the state of your mets today

1:00

is outstanding, So you know, if

1:02

Bobby Bonia Day should bring you back to the days

1:05

of yore when Bobby Bonilla was a Met, which

1:07

of course is kind of where we are with the Mets

1:09

today. I look at it

1:11

a different present. Change your perspective on it, Jason.

1:15

The thing is, it's been such a bad headline

1:17

and such an embarrassing you know. The thing is, it's

1:20

an embarrassing optic more than anything,

1:22

And the Mets don't do any more

1:24

embarrassing up because you've been paying a guy

1:26

that hasn't played for you in twenty years, and you're paying

1:29

him for another, you know, thirteen

1:31

years. I mean this goes through twenty thirty five.

1:33

It's hey, yeah, I mean last year Ryan

1:35

Reynolds put out the whole mint Mobile campaign

1:38

had a commercial with Bobby Bonilla and

1:40

I'm laughing, but I'm going this is this is

1:42

my team. Every this has happened

1:44

with so many other teams, but the Bobby Bonilla

1:46

Day and the contract in this because it was like the first time

1:48

we had seen it, Like, yeah, this is just it's

1:50

just a way to laugh at the Mets every day, every every

1:53

like you need another reason to laugh at the Mets. But yes,

1:56

this is a great year. For us so far, this

1:58

could be as good as it gets, So I'm ready for the bottom

2:00

to fall at any time. But yeah, but

2:02

this is still one of those days where I just go, yeah,

2:05

here we go. People more people call

2:07

me today and my friends I

2:09

haven't heard from in like months and

2:11

just say happy Bobby Bani a day than like any

2:13

other day, Like more than on my birthday. People

2:16

text me and say hey, happy Bobby Bani a day.

2:18

So I get that today more than anything. I

2:20

like it's a great day for a baniah. But I

2:23

don't know. I just think it's a fascinating discussion.

2:25

It's the old you win the lottery, you take

2:27

all the money, or you take it surpress spread out

2:29

over twenty five years, you know. I

2:31

mean al And Iverson has one of these deals with Reebok,

2:34

Right, there's a lot of people that thought nan Allen Iverson

2:36

bad shape, Like now, actually he has this

2:38

deferred payment thing with Reebok from

2:40

his shoes, which you know he started

2:43

making a couple of years ago. So I

2:45

actually think it's a really interesting business

2:47

discussion. And I don't think it's because

2:49

for the Mets, for these teams

2:52

that it allowed them to save cash put

2:54

it away into escrow and cost

2:57

them less, you know, to keep their players.

2:59

And I think deferred compensation is

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really interesting. But I do get it. It

3:03

is by Bunnia Day, and it does you know.

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It's one of those what a great deal to be him,

3:08

and what a weird deal to be the Mets,

3:10

especially when you have a new Mets owner.

3:13

Right although I believe all of this money

3:15

was what was putting an Astro back with the

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Wilpons. But still it's a really

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quirky day. So I'll buy in. Have

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you Bobby Bunny a Day day?

3:24

Thank you, Doug. I appreciate that. We'll

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sell it right later on with like margaritas or

3:28

something. Sure. Uh now,

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look, obviously the bat and this doesn't

3:33

This isn't the worst thing for me because I think, well,

3:36

with everything going on in the NBA, Bobby Bunia

3:38

Day is going to pass by a little bit under

3:40

the radar. Nope, Nope. Still woke up this morning

3:42

with the even though NBA,

3:45

but we're still reacting to

3:47

the big news with Kevin Durant

3:49

asking for a trade from the Brooklyn Nets.

3:52

Already, we've seen so many different

3:54

destinations thrown out there. Phoenix in Miami

3:56

at the top of the list. Other teams are throwing their

3:59

names in the ring. Supposedly up

4:01

to twenty teams have called the Nets going, hey,

4:04

this is We're interested. What can we do? And

4:06

the Nets have said, We're going to take the best

4:08

deal out there. It's not going to be

4:10

simply we just trade him wherever he wants

4:12

to go. You know, I saw

4:14

this yesterday dug In, and as soon as

4:16

this happened for me that my first thought was,

4:19

he is just never going to be happy basketball

4:22

wherever he goes. He's just he's

4:24

just one of those guys that is never going for a variety

4:27

of reasons, but mainly because he listens

4:29

so much to outside noise and

4:31

he can't ever find a situation

4:34

where Okay, I'm here, I love basketball

4:36

and I'm playing and I really want to win.

4:38

He had everything in Oklahoma City to

4:41

the point where when they had that really Benver,

4:43

that bad mister unreliable headline that

4:46

in the Oklahoma City papers it was oh, mister unreliable,

4:48

and the paper apologized to

4:51

him for that headline after there was a

4:53

big backlash on it, and Kevin Durant got really

4:55

mad. And when that happens you have to

4:57

say, oh, this is my town. I mean, I just

4:59

had the the newspaper apologized to

5:01

me for a headline that questioned my talent.

5:03

No, wasn't good enough for him. There. He goes

5:06

to Golden State, where every basketball player

5:08

is gone. There, says what a great system, what a great environment

5:11

this is with Steve Kerr, and

5:14

he wins a couple of titles, and he

5:16

still is not happy enough, fights

5:18

with Draymond. He goes to Brooklyn where

5:20

he decides, this is where I want to build my next

5:23

big empire here and Kyrie and I are going to do this together.

5:25

We're gonna run this team, and this is

5:27

the next thing what I want to do because I've checked those boxes

5:29

of winning a championship off of my

5:32

resume and he couldn't

5:34

make it work there. So I don't know what's going to

5:36

suddenly make him happy his next stop

5:38

in the NBA. Okay,

5:40

there's a lot to digest there. I'm

5:44

going to disagree with you with Alcoholma City. He

5:46

had everything he won in terms of

5:49

owning the town, right,

5:51

I mean, the guy agree with you on the mister unreliable,

5:55

But it was a team that didn't

5:57

have what he needed

6:00

in order he's successful by his or

6:02

I think anybody's estimation, right the just

6:05

remember he's when his last

6:07

series when they had a three games of one leading

6:09

the Golden State Warriors. Um,

6:12

you know Steven Adams and Andre Robertson.

6:14

You know you're playing three on two or three

6:16

on five on offense, and they added

6:19

up the victor of Ladipo that offseason. But he was

6:21

just he was just done with with

6:23

that. First. I think he

6:25

liked the town. I think he'd liked the team. I just

6:28

think it was the personnel wasn't

6:30

good. It wasn't good enough to be honest, and

6:32

then when you're in Golden State, I don't

6:34

think it was about being unhappy there. I

6:36

think it was even how you

6:38

would portray it, which is he. In

6:42

Katie's mind, all

6:44

I had to do is get to the finals and matchup

6:46

of Lebron and show I was a better player. He

6:48

did that. He played better than Lebron.

6:51

He guarded Lebron. He made

6:54

more big plays in the second half against

6:56

Lebron in two consecutive

6:59

NBA finals. Really in the third one,

7:01

although he only played limited before

7:03

he toured securely said he used the difference

7:05

maker, and yet he couldn't

7:08

get the respect that he thought he

7:10

deserved as being the best player on the

7:12

planet. The Brooklyn thing was a

7:14

disaster. But I don't think anybody like

7:16

should he be happy? But like,

7:19

let's just be honest Jason, like, should

7:21

should he be happy? He went he went there,

7:24

and he went there one. They

7:26

had great culture that obviously has been

7:28

destroyed. I think partially by

7:32

Kyrie. I think a little bit by KD.

7:35

I think a lot by the

7:37

move for Harden and the fact that they went after

7:39

the brass ring. But I mean, like,

7:42

should you be happy? I mean go back, Like,

7:45

let's be let's take an honest look at the last two years.

7:47

You know, you go back last season, people forget they

7:50

were dominating the Bucks of two games

7:52

and none. Kyrie gets hurt, not a shocker.

7:55

James Harden not himself because of a hamstring,

7:57

still got to Game seven and

8:00

if not for his toe being on the line, they beat

8:02

the Milwaukee Bucks and go to the NBA Finals.

8:05

But this season was an object disaster. And

8:09

yet do I think that

8:12

he's a guy who searches. He's

8:14

still searching for himself and searching for a

8:17

home yeah, but you know, whether

8:20

it's he shouldn't have left. You could say you shouldn't have left Oklahoma

8:22

City, but I mean, now

8:25

do you start to kind of understand why

8:27

maybe he wanted to get away from Russell Westbrook He

8:29

shouldn't have left Golden State in order

8:31

to be successful, but he still wasn't

8:34

getting any sort of respect

8:36

that he deserved.

8:39

So, you know, I do

8:41

get it on some most I don't. I

8:43

don't know why you signed a contract that has

8:45

four more years left and now all I said, you said you

8:47

want out. But the

8:50

team not communicating with him, I

8:52

think they're ready for a fresh start too. I think

8:54

I'm not sure that him asking to be traded

8:57

was news that Sean Marks didn't want to hear. It.

8:59

Didn't expect he here, right, like if you don't.

9:02

There was multiple times there where

9:06

Sean Marks was asked about communicating

9:08

with Kevin Brant and he had not. Now,

9:11

it does work both ways, but when you

9:13

stop talking in any relationship,

9:16

the relationship ceased

9:18

to exist. So I actually

9:21

don't think that the nets are sitting there going like,

9:23

oh man, we're upset. I think this

9:25

is a fresh start for them, and I think they're

9:27

going to try and rebuild, get back to where they were

9:29

previously, and make smarter decision

9:31

because because before Kyrie and

9:34

Katie went in, that was a

9:36

team that had

9:38

arguably the best culture. I had the most fun

9:41

that Kenny Atkinson's coaching five hundred

9:44

and the Spencer didn't, Wini and Kara Slaverton,

9:46

some of those guys, but that group had fun

9:49

and the rest of the league took notice. I think

9:51

he wants to get back to that, and I actually

9:53

think that Katie's kind of doing them a favor that

9:56

this felt. This felt

9:58

Iy, Here's how

10:00

I relate. Okay, your daughter

10:03

played uth sports or whatever. I'll I'll

10:06

give you kind of the au analogy. Right

10:09

in a you have a good team inevitably

10:13

and you your kids play the right way, You're

10:15

going to have really really

10:18

talented kids who play

10:20

on some of these big clubs that

10:23

they just dominate people. They'll want to play

10:25

on your team because they feel like, well,

10:27

the kids will all give them the ball and the play

10:29

a little bit of the system, and they'll be the star.

10:32

And what ends up happening is you take a couple of those kids

10:34

and now you're winning the tournaments and

10:37

you're you're you're competing on a bigger

10:39

stage, but it's

10:41

not the core group of kids that you actually cared

10:44

about and put together the team for him. And

10:46

so that's what I think it is

10:48

happening here in Brooklyn. Like it just didn't feel

10:50

good ever once you had Kyrie

10:53

and KD. And then you bring in James

10:55

Harden and like, these guys aren't

10:58

what they want to be about. And

11:00

I think that's where it Brooks get back to. Well

11:03

that part I'm with you on because you just look

11:05

at the nets first reaction. Normally, if if

11:07

a player of Kd's ilk you're

11:09

talking about a you know, a top five, top

11:11

three player, says they want to be traded, what,

11:13

what's the team's first reaction? As always, well,

11:16

hang on, we're going to talk through this. This

11:18

is this is you know, we're not just going to give him away. We

11:20

have to talk. We love Kevin, we

11:23

want him to stay, We want him to be able to stay

11:25

here and help us grow the Nets. As a reason why we

11:27

signed him, we still believe in him, we believe

11:29

in everything we have going on. And instead, right

11:31

away it was yeah, yeah, we're gonna take the best

11:33

deal. I mean there was there was no no pretending

11:36

of yeah, listen, no, we got to make it work. We

11:38

got this is Kevin Durant, we're talking about Matt

11:41

No, this is we're gonna let him go. And

11:43

I think that's a big that's a big sign for the rest

11:45

of the NBA to go all right. They're they're in

11:47

on him with all of it. They went all in and now they're

11:49

so ready to let him go. And

11:52

when when when I see where he's gonna go next.

11:54

And you talked about how, hey Brooklyn

11:57

wasn't really the right fit. It didn't work. He had a

11:59

great fit in Golden eight in Oklahoma

12:01

City. He wanted to get away from Russ. He's

12:03

had all these different times

12:06

that he's had different experiences. Okay,

12:08

maybe the Oklahoma City one wasn't

12:11

great towards the end he had to get away. Maybe

12:13

it wasn't as great. In gold Stakes he didn't get

12:16

their respect, even though he's got two NBA Finals MVPs.

12:18

And then he wanted to have the power

12:20

of running the nets with k D

12:23

and Joe Sigh and Marx. But he's

12:25

had all of these things to experience and none

12:28

of them have really made him happy. So I don't know where,

12:30

like his next stop is suddenly going to be Okay. Now

12:32

I'm here and I'm back to winning, and

12:34

I'm throwing myself back into things,

12:37

and it's going to be different than it was before,

12:39

just because he's had all these different things to experience,

12:42

to try to find himself, to try to find right.

12:44

This is the guy I want to be, This is the player I want

12:46

to be. And whatever wherever he ends up, whether

12:48

it's Miami, whether it's Phoenix or someplace else,

12:51

or Denver, whatever, I don't

12:53

see it being any different than it's

12:55

been for him for his career, where he'll get there and he'll

12:58

be okay in the beginning, and then after

13:00

a while it's not gonna be as great

13:02

and as you go on in your career in

13:04

sports, when stars do this, you have less

13:06

time to suffer in certain

13:09

times. So he was at Oklahoma City for a long time

13:11

and then now he had to go, all right, Then he had a half

13:14

half the time in Golden State. Okay, I gotta

13:16

go. Now he's had even less of a time in Brooklyn.

13:18

All Right, I gotta go. I kind of see that being

13:20

his career path now as it goes on. I

13:23

think he's been in Brooklyn four years. He was in Golden

13:25

State three and then right

13:27

because he missed an entire year with injury

13:30

right as he been or

13:32

is it three years in Brooklyn. He's

13:35

three years in Brooklyn, and yeah, he

13:37

missed. He missed the whole entire first year. So it

13:40

is interesting. I think that Miami

13:43

is the fit because

13:46

if you know Kevin Rent, he's or

13:49

you take when everybody says about him, and

13:51

he's just about ball and

13:54

that's what they're kind of Heat culture is

13:56

about. And they need

13:58

him. They need a cheat code on offense.

14:00

They needed a guy to bail them out. And

14:03

if they had the ideas that they have that

14:05

the problem becomes if

14:08

the Nets really want the best deal, the best

14:10

deal would come from somewhere relating

14:13

to Oklahoma City

14:15

or someone relating to the Houston Rockets,

14:17

because they have all the picks. You know, the

14:20

Heat aren't going to have any good picks for the rest

14:22

of and the Heat are not You're

14:24

not going to come up Bam out of Bio or Jimmy

14:27

Butler, and so I don't

14:29

know what comes back in return that

14:31

could equal out to what other teams could give you value

14:34

wise, but it's definitely fascinating.

14:36

Um, it really is interesting that

14:39

that here Kevin Durant is and he like

14:42

he chased it. I mean, I

14:45

understand that people there's always

14:47

going to be the well because he joined the Warriors

14:50

and they had won a title one seventy three games

14:53

back to back years that

14:56

it was by many people's asked me on its wheat

14:58

move. Okay, he chased

15:00

it, like we've all. Everybody I

15:03

know is chase something. You know, you

15:05

chase a girl, you know, you chase your

15:07

dream school, you chase

15:10

the dream job. Hell I can, I'll

15:12

admit it. I chased my dream job and it

15:14

was not what I thought it was gonna be in

15:17

any way. And so

15:19

I do kind of relate to the Yeah,

15:22

man, I thought I was getting one thing and I'm not, and

15:25

I'm sure Kevin Durant thought. And the

15:27

top of the mountain feels different than it did. But

15:30

it's gonna be fascinating because you

15:33

know, before you heard his knee this year, he

15:35

was maybe not unquestionably, but he was the

15:37

MVP a line and if

15:40

you go back to last year, at

15:42

the end of the year, he was unbelievable. In

15:45

between, you had the Olympics and you

15:47

have all these great young players. The Olympics,

15:49

Kevin Durant was the reason I won the gold medal. It

15:52

just he was unquestionably

15:54

the best player of that team. And so you're

15:56

doctoring all those things and we're looking at

15:58

the lens of now. He may be unhappy

16:01

and he may continue to search for happiness.

16:04

As you say, Jason's very right, but

16:06

that guy is an amazing talent and he

16:09

still seems to have several

16:11

years left to play at that level. And

16:13

whoever gets and is suddenly going to be

16:15

a championship caliberton Now you said

16:18

the heat and that's a great fit, and certainly

16:20

it is. Do you really

16:23

think that's gonna happen? The Nets are gonna say, okay,

16:25

hey, here's one of his preferred teams, and we're gonna

16:27

send him there, and we're gonna we're gonna make this other

16:29

team in the East that was close and potentially

16:31

put them over the top. Are the Nets gonna,

16:34

you know, be the Rockets and say, okay, here's where

16:36

you want to go. We can get a decent deal. We're gonna do it. I

16:39

have no idea I just I

16:41

don't. I don't know. Again, I don't know what's

16:43

being offered. I'll take shot Marks that face value, because

16:45

shot Marks seems to have been an honest salesman

16:47

in this thing. Right. He told us he wasn't

16:50

talking to KD. That should have told us that

16:52

he was, that that they were, that

16:54

they were taking a breath as that he They basically

16:56

told us that they didn't want Kyrie back, right,

16:59

That's that's why he said

17:01

what he said and end of the year exit pres

17:03

Scotfort's meeting, right when he said, we needs

17:05

to be available played for others, all the things that

17:08

Kyrie has rightfully been accused of not

17:10

being right. So if he says

17:12

we're gonna wait for the best offer, or what's the best

17:14

offer, are the Lakers going to offer up Anthony

17:17

Davis for him? Are

17:19

they Anthony Davis and Russell Westbrook? How does that bounce

17:21

out with Tyler hero and a bunch of other stuff

17:23

from Miami? I don't know. So the

17:26

only honest answer I can tell you is I

17:29

really don't know. But I do know that you

17:31

asked about is there a place he could be

17:33

happy? That type of environment

17:36

where you have a championship caliber

17:38

culture of guys that are just about

17:40

you know, ball and getting after it and they

17:43

need somebody to be their bailout guy,

17:45

to give the ball to to win him a game. That's what

17:47

he's That's I think what he desires. He needs

17:50

some space, you know, can't have clutter

17:52

in the paint he had with Russell Westbrook

17:55

and Andre Robertson and those

17:57

type of guys. But outside of that, that's

17:59

the type of environment he needs. And

18:02

I you know, the Clippers could could be

18:04

one if they were with the Ned's luck, Paul

18:06

George, how would that look. I mean, there's all

18:09

these different possibilities. But the heat

18:11

style of guy,

18:14

and I hate to say heat culture, but

18:16

it is. It's kind of a heat culture. I think

18:18

he fits that better better

18:20

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Netts today, and a day that's just gonna get brighter

19:28

and sunnier as we go on. We're

19:31

gonna get into a really big

19:33

topic here that we thought yesterday was

19:35

going to wind up being about, and it was for a while until

19:37

Kevin Durant decided to ask for a trade.

19:40

But Doug, you know the old

19:42

saying, if you don't like the weather in Florida,

19:44

wait five minutes. You know, if you don't like what's going on in

19:46

college football, wait five minutes. USC

19:49

and UCLA are going to go to the Big

19:51

Ten. There's rumors that Notre Dame could

19:53

follow, and another big reorganizing

19:56

of the conferences in college

19:58

sports. And you know, I know that Colin

20:00

Coward referred to this a few months ago when he said, hey,

20:02

something big was coming usc wise and and

20:04

here we are, here's the PAC twelve. And now

20:07

you know that the two biggest teams

20:09

are going to be heading out in a couple of years.

20:11

And I admit not a lot

20:13

shocks me. But when this headline hit yesterday,

20:15

I sat back and said, oh my goodness,

20:17

they're gonna play in the Big Ten. They're gonna

20:20

fly three thousand miles to start playing

20:22

football games on a regular basis.

20:25

It's but this is a

20:29

titanic land shift in

20:31

college athletics. The it's

20:34

the Big Ten expansion initially

20:37

obviously triggered all of this, and

20:41

even more so than the SEC expansion.

20:43

You go back to the nineties, the Big Ten

20:45

expansion combined with the Big Ten network

20:47

and the money they were bringing in, and then of

20:50

course it led to all

20:52

the other stuff, including Missouri and A and M

20:54

leaving the SEC. Initially that began

20:56

it Ou and

20:59

Texas. Obviously that's an even bigger but

21:03

now you have two schools

21:05

that don't make any sort of geographic sense,

21:08

like none, Like you can

21:10

sit here and go like, you know, I don't

21:12

love I don't I don't like Oklahoma leaving

21:15

their Brothers school obviously my own modern Oklahoma

21:17

State, but I mean, like,

21:19

look, Arkansas is in the league text

21:22

all you know, Texas, Techa and am like that.

21:24

That makes some sort of geographic

21:26

sense. It's the southwest and Oklahoma

21:30

all the way into the southeast, got it right,

21:33

you know when they added Missouri, Missouri

21:35

is really more of a Big Ten school. But that's all

21:38

right. It's it's on the board the

21:40

ACC you know, having Notre

21:42

Dame in basketball, and they have

21:45

some schools that don't. But it is the

21:47

Atlantic Coast Conference, and so

21:50

many of those alums from so many of those schools

21:53

are from the Northeast. Anyway, it

21:55

makes some sort of sense. To have

21:57

the two LA schools in the Big

22:00

Ten. Makes zero historic,

22:03

zero geographic sense. It

22:05

is one hundred percent about

22:08

the bottom line, about the amount of

22:10

money that they're

22:12

going to make in the new Big Ten

22:14

and everything

22:17

we as we know it historically in

22:19

college football was destroyed. Yesterw

22:22

like to think about, like for years

22:25

the one thing that we

22:27

could count on was the

22:30

Rose Bowl, right, Pac ten

22:32

champion and the Big ten champion. Yes,

22:35

that's over a hundred years of

22:38

history on New Year's Day and it was protected

22:40

through the BCS and now the College Ball

22:42

playoff that was destroyed yesterday.

22:45

So there's a lot to talk about. But I

22:47

hope people understand this is different than

22:49

everything that has preceded it in terms

22:52

of the change and frankly, what I think is

22:54

the destruction of the glorious history

22:56

of even college football, which is what

22:59

this is about. We'll talk about it more.

23:01

We are because joining us now on the hotline.

23:03

He is the host of the Petros and Money

23:06

Show here on AM five seventy Sports in

23:08

LA, college football analyst for Fox

23:10

Sports. He's on Twitter at the Old

23:12

p It's Petros Papadacus, who has spent

23:14

the last twenty four hours researching

23:17

best hotels and restaurants in Piscataway

23:20

as he gets ready for USC and Rutgers.

23:22

Petros, what's happening, man? You guys can hear

23:25

me? Yeah, you sound great, amazing,

23:28

Gosh, all right, what

23:31

were you asking me about Piscataway? I've done

23:33

a Rutgers game before Oh okay. Oh

23:35

so if this is gonna be old had, you're gonna be the guy telling

23:37

every okay, this is what we should do when we get here for the first

23:39

time. Well, Fox has that's a big part of

23:41

this, guys. Fox has the Big ten contract,

23:44

right, and Fox has run the

23:46

Big ten network since its

23:48

inception and since they started printing

23:51

money. So when ESPN made

23:54

their move with Texas and Oklahoma,

23:56

this really does And everybody knows the

23:59

closeness between Fox executives and

24:01

the Ten executives and USC

24:04

executives and Fox

24:07

executives and all that, So this

24:10

makes sense. It feels like it is a kind

24:14

of a TV coup, so to

24:16

speak. I thought that we'd just be

24:18

out from under the umbrella of the NCAA

24:21

with some kind of huge super conference before

24:24

these kind of moves. But putress,

24:31

do you think this is good for the sport? Well,

24:34

I think USC had to do something. I

24:36

think it's about ten years late. They had

24:38

to take their relevance

24:40

in their own hands, and they couldn't trust

24:43

the new TV deal because they spent

24:46

the last decade listening to Larry Scott

24:48

talk about what a great TV deal they had while

24:50

Oregon State printed much

24:53

less money than Mississippi State, or

24:56

cal printed a lot less money than Vanderbilt

25:00

or Perdue, and they watch for about

25:02

a decade while all of these people

25:04

printed money, while they just kind

25:07

of got poor and less and less relevant.

25:09

If anything, you would say this move

25:11

is too late. Now it's a geographical nightmare,

25:14

there's no doubt about that. But they don't

25:16

care about that. They don't care about that for the Olympic

25:18

sports. They care about the money. They care about

25:21

making themselves relevant

25:23

again in the world of college football

25:25

as it's changing. And it's one of the few things

25:28

that USC has done in the last ten years that I agree

25:30

with. It's odd, but all

25:33

the people that were saying, I don't know, six

25:35

seven years ago, like hey, USC should join

25:37

the SEC, Hey they should do this, they sound

25:39

like raving lunatics. And now it

25:42

kind of makes sense given the climate. Do

25:45

you think we actually see this happen? Do

25:47

you think we actually these teams that are

25:49

joining these new conferences when we get this big

25:52

seismic shift or is there going to

25:54

be something bigger before them? Will there be some kind

25:56

of agreement, whether it's two or four

25:58

super conferences that that sort of puts

26:00

some normalcy on this. Yeah, well we know there's

26:03

no such thing as normalcy anymore. Well, I mean for

26:05

five minutes until it changes again. Well yeah, I mean

26:07

there'll be seven years of this probably,

26:09

and then we'll head I mean that the NC Double

26:12

A can't sustain this anymore, and the

26:14

NC double as doomed. The NC Double

26:16

A started to become doomed when

26:19

ESPN and the SEC and

26:21

a few other conglomerates

26:24

came together to create the College Football Playoff

26:26

out from under the jurisdiction of

26:29

the NC Double A. So they

26:31

don't have any power anymore, and that's why they've let

26:33

the NIL go. That's why they've allowed

26:36

all this conference shifting. That's why college

26:38

football is changing more rapidly than ever before.

26:41

The NC Double A is losing their grip

26:43

on the sport because the revenues are just too

26:45

big for them to control.

26:48

So that's what I thought that, like

26:51

you said, that we'd be headed more towards some kind

26:53

of like premier league looking thing

26:55

or just like all the fifty teams that played

26:57

big time college football and then about wanting

27:00

below them kind of on the periphery. But

27:02

that's not where we're at right now. We're going to have this

27:05

giant Big ten for a while and a

27:07

giant SEC for a while before

27:09

it happens. But I mean, Jason, we

27:12

know people that are still attached to the Southwest Conference

27:14

right that are saying suwee pig

27:16

and I mean college and I remember

27:18

the people in Nebraska screaming and crying how they

27:21

don't get to play Colorado every year. College

27:24

football is constantly changing, and

27:26

one of the great things about it is the argument

27:28

we have about it, whether it's the BCS

27:31

or before the BCS with the bowl system

27:34

or the playoff. Now, I mean, we're always

27:36

yelling about something and that's kind of the nature

27:38

of it. So I'm not as upset with this

27:40

change as I would be saying in nineteen

27:43

ninety nine if it happens. Okay,

27:46

so the Petris, let me ask you this. I

27:48

feel like this saves the Big twelve,

27:52

you know, like, because the next big question

27:54

is the Big twelve. They named a new commissioner a couple of

27:56

days ago, is what's

27:58

their next TV deal look like? And

28:02

I mean, look, you got Stanford and Cal

28:04

out there, you got Arizona, Arizona State granted

28:07

They're not usc They're not, but

28:09

there it's better than Houston

28:13

in central Florida in terms of relevance,

28:16

and it also it

28:18

helps the time zone

28:20

problem of the PAC ten,

28:22

Pac twelve whatever defunct now is.

28:26

Does this those schools roll into the Big

28:28

twelve and essentially save the

28:30

Big twelve as a major conference? You

28:32

know, I don't know. I mean there's a lot of people

28:35

out there saying a lot of different things.

28:37

Can the Big twelve be a major conference

28:40

without a Texas or Oklahoma in

28:42

it? I guess would be the major question,

28:45

Like the Pac twelve, can they be a major

28:47

conference without the

28:51

Trojans and the Bruins. You know what

28:53

I think is probably the Big

28:55

twelve absorbs the Arizona

28:58

schools, like you said, maybe Colorado

29:01

and Utah, and maybe

29:03

they become more like a Their TV

29:05

deal will probably look more like a Mountain West deal

29:08

than it would one of these bigger

29:10

deals. And then the same thing will happen

29:13

with some of the West Coast teams that we've grown up

29:15

with, and they will get absorbed

29:18

probably or maybe by the Mountain

29:20

West or maybe that'll be called the Pac

29:22

twelve, and their TV deal will

29:24

be more reflective of because

29:26

we don't know what's going to happen with Oregon and Washington.

29:28

I can totally see the Big Ten swallowing them

29:30

up as well. And then USC

29:33

has some travel partners a little

29:35

bit and all the trips are not as awkward

29:38

for the Trojans. And then there's also the football

29:40

side of it, Doug. I mean, let's think about

29:42

the actual football side of it, like Arizona

29:45

State going down to TCU. Okay,

29:47

I mean we can all kind of see that and feel

29:49

that a lot of Arizona State teams are from

29:52

Texas and all that players. And

29:54

I mean, but USC

29:56

and West Lafayette in late November, you

29:59

better change your office, you know. I Mean,

30:01

there's there's a lot there, and there's

30:03

a reason Big Ten teams are built the way they're

30:05

built, and a lot of them are built to play

30:07

in late November in that area when

30:09

you really have to win games in that part of the world.

30:12

And what's going to happen when UCLA

30:15

has taken the field at Minnesota.

30:17

I mean, I don't care that there's a heat or under the field.

30:19

I mean that's I mean when

30:22

in the Pac Ten in my day, all we had

30:24

to worry about was getting caught in Pullman in November,

30:26

right, or maybe it rained on you

30:28

in Corvallis or Eugene, uh

30:32

and or Seattle. But this is

30:34

a different logistical deal for them, just as

30:36

far as playing in that kind of way,

30:39

it's a different fib I think

30:41

you can you can use a football

30:43

died yesterday. So I think it's

30:45

a huge boost for them. Yeah,

30:48

I really do. I think it's a huge boost for UCLA.

30:51

So you think UCLA is going to compete with

30:53

the Big Ten as a team that doesn't

30:55

have an on campus stadium, sure,

30:58

right? Like, well, I think what number one on? I

31:00

think that's one of the attractive things for the Big

31:02

Ten, right, I mean, you're you live here. I

31:05

mean even though you're down there in Orange County,

31:07

you still see the people in the giant crewneck

31:09

sweatshirts that say was Consent

31:11

or Minnesota or whoever the hell's PA?

31:13

And the Rose Bowl. I listen, I agree

31:15

for the league, but it's gonna be like the Chargers.

31:18

They're gonna be playing road games at the Rose

31:20

Bowl. Now, the Rose Bowl probably be more full

31:22

than it's been. But I'm just

31:24

in terms of being competitive in that league.

31:27

How can UCLA be competitive

31:30

in the in the Big Ten? I don't

31:32

see. Well. I think they're they're I think they're in better

31:35

just currently. I mean this is a two year away

31:38

thing, but currently I think UCLA

31:40

is in better shape to run the ball and stop

31:43

the run than USC is, at

31:46

least on paper. I mean, UCLA has

31:49

been dedicated to that side of the ball, and every time UCLA

31:51

has played USC, I know s he's

31:53

got a new coach, but we haven't seen him play yet.

31:56

And the knock on him was also that he's too involved

31:58

with the skill positions and backs and

32:00

they get beat up in the trenches in Oklahoma. So,

32:04

I mean UCLA put up sixty three points

32:06

on USC running the football last year

32:08

and they have done the same thing to him over

32:11

the years. So I think Chip Kelly

32:13

knows how to run and stop the run. Now,

32:16

is he's still going to be the coach? What's it going to look like

32:18

in two years all of those things. Is

32:21

UCLA going to be the best team in the Big Ten?

32:23

No? But are they going to be inapt? I don't

32:25

think so. I don't. I don't see it in the same way.

32:28

And also I think they both

32:31

of these teams and their brands

32:33

were on the cosp of irrelevance.

32:35

They could not trust another, even

32:37

though there's a new commissioner, and even though

32:39

all the bad stuff is supposed to be behind him.

32:42

What Larry Scott did and his TV deal

32:44

was so damaging that and

32:46

USC was complicit, and so as UCLA.

32:48

They sat there and watched it happen for ten years,

32:51

but they got there on the brink of losing all

32:53

their relevance. So when

32:56

when that happens, you have to

32:58

take something in your own hands

33:00

and start trying to make as much money as

33:02

your peers are. And that's what this

33:05

move is. The host of the Petros

33:07

and Money Show on AM five seventy sports

33:09

here in Los Angeles, college football analyst

33:12

for Fox on Twitter at the old p Petro's

33:14

Papadakis, Petro's thanks a bunch of getting

33:16

up so early with us on Bobby Benie a day. We'll talk to you

33:18

soon, man, My pleasure up. Sorry, I couldn't

33:20

get the you know, I'm like a monkey

33:22

with this thing. I guess I can't figure out my comrade.

33:26

Yeah, you're good, dude. Everything was great. There

33:29

goes Petro's The Dead Patrick Show, Jason

33:32

Smith, Doug Gott lead in for Dan the Dennets today,

33:34

All right, real quick, Doug, Yes or nope, because now this is

33:36

gonna be the next part of this topic. Not tre

33:38

Dame. You have to make a lot of money with their TV deal

33:40

with NBC, could potentially make

33:42

a ton more with Fox

33:45

and the and the Big TV deal if it comes up.

33:48

Does not Tre Dame leave for the Big Ten? I

33:51

mean it just it's gonna depend on the bottom line.

33:54

You know. The Big Ten has always made more geographic

33:56

sense. I think the ACCC

33:58

has worked out for them really well, not just

34:01

financially, but also they can

34:03

be kind of a quasi member. We're in for everything.

34:05

I don't think so. I think they're good where they are.

34:08

I think they're able to be competitive in their other sports.

34:11

But this Big Ten number

34:14

is reportedly one hundred

34:16

million dollars total

34:19

per school per year. I

34:21

don't know what Notre Dame brought

34:24

in last year, but I don't think it's anywhere near

34:26

one hundred, and so that becomes the

34:28

question, you know, if this, if

34:31

they if other places can get them to one hundred

34:33

or above that, then they stay where they

34:35

are. Or they do their own thing. If

34:37

not, then they go where the where

34:40

they're getting is good in one hundred million dollars, some

34:42

good getting. Jason Smith and Gug

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34:52

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35:47

with Kevin Durant's trade request from

35:49

the Brooklyn Nets shaking the world up.

35:51

Well, what's next now for Kyrie Irving, who

35:54

could also be leaving the Nets? According to many

35:56

reports in the last twenty four hours, Kyrie

35:59

is lazy. You're focused on getting

36:01

to the Lakers and getting out of Brooklyn.

36:04

Dug his Kyrie get out. He doesn't have a

36:06

lot of trade value right now, but he seems

36:08

to want this Lakers thing to happen.

36:11

Can you do with James Harden and say, listen, I'm

36:14

just not gonna play or you're gonna get me to where

36:16

I want to go, and that's how I'm going to continue

36:18

my career. I

36:22

don't think he can do that, you

36:24

know. I think that's one of the things Jay

36:27

that we learned

36:30

about Kyrie earlier this week when he

36:32

opted in because the path

36:34

to the Lakers was there, he just had

36:36

to opt out and take their bid level

36:38

exception done deal. Now

36:41

it's a thirty million dollar hit combined

36:43

with the fact that he lost his Nike deal. But if

36:46

money's not important to you, money's

36:48

not important to you. So I guess a

36:51

certain amount of money is not important to you. I don't

36:53

know, so I don't think. I think

36:55

he showed his cards earlier this week

36:58

that he's not willing to sacrifice that salary.

37:00

He wants that money, needs

37:03

that that money. So no, he can't

37:05

make it happen to the Lakers. Could

37:07

it still happen to go Lakers? Yeah,

37:10

I guess. I mean that means that Brooklyn

37:13

would have to accept a deal. What

37:15

when the Lakers would have to offer it up and the Brooklyn

37:17

would have to do

37:20

a deal where it's Anthony Davis

37:22

and Russell Westbrook for Kevin

37:26

Durant and Kyrie Irving. I

37:29

think the Lakers would do that. I don't

37:31

believe the Nets would do that. So the

37:34

answer to your question is could it happen? Yeah,

37:37

A lot of things could happen. Will it happen? I

37:40

would bet again, I would bet against it. See,

37:43

I look at Kyrie and how it's

37:45

going to come out from one of two ways, and

37:47

it's not with him getting traded right now. Either

37:50

he begins the season with Brooklyn and

37:53

as it goes on, the Nets look

37:55

for a trade and Kyrie is dealt sometime

37:57

during the season, maybe it's the beginning of the year

37:59

because things go awful and he is

38:01

skipping games and he's sitting out and it's a

38:04

hardened rocket situation where Okay, it's

38:06

very untenable early and they wind

38:08

up moving him because they have to at that point.

38:11

Either that or maybe they could

38:14

Brooklyn John Wallam and say Okay,

38:16

this is bad and things could get bad over the

38:19

next couple of weeks and months before

38:21

the season and it's decided he's

38:23

gonna sit and not play until they can figure

38:25

out a deal for him. Is that something

38:27

that could come up, because I think the first one is

38:30

more likely, But I don't want to rule that out either.

38:34

I don't think he'll play another game for the Nets.

38:36

I think he'll be traded this offseason.

38:39

Kyrie's not gonna shove U. If Kevin Durant gets traded,

38:42

Kyrie's not gonna shove him. Goes like, no, no, I'm good. I'd

38:44

like to play here. I don't. I

38:49

think all he did earlier this week, I

38:51

thought that they were getting them all, Hey,

38:53

let's let's try and run this thing and fix

38:56

it and have a because they haven't even had a training camp.

38:58

When they're all there, you know,

39:00

first year, Kad wasn't

39:02

It was a different coach, but Katie wasn't healthy.

39:05

The second year, Katie and Kyrie

39:07

were there, but they end up trading for James Harden.

39:09

You know, this year, James Harden obviously

39:12

wasn't physically right, and they

39:14

didn't have Kyrie at all until

39:16

kind of mid season, right, say, They've never actually

39:19

been able to build a team. So

39:21

that's what I thought early in the week when he opted

39:24

in. I was wrong. This thing's

39:26

over. It's just selling off the pieces.

39:28

And I think if you had John Wallam, it

39:31

just shows you what you're not going to get

39:33

much to return to get pennies out of the dollar. So

39:36

I think all options are open,

39:39

and he wants it to happen with LA.

39:42

I just I don't know how it happens with La unless

39:45

KD locks arm in arm with him and

39:48

they try and try and

39:50

make the Lakers, you know, or to try and make the Nets

39:52

except to Russell Westbrook, and maybe they buy

39:55

out Westbrook, or they they

39:57

John wall Westbrook if they get him. But

40:00

I don't. I don't

40:02

think he ever plays a game with the Nets again,

40:04

and I don't think they pay him to not play.

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That would be my guests, because that's I

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mean, like that this is this

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is a napalm the thing sort of moment yesterday

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when that tweet went out from I think Sham's

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had it that Kevin Durant want to be traded

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check please, I'm out. And he didn't say

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I want to be traded with Kyrie Irving.

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Yeah, they're gonna almost they're gonna have to accept

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nothing for Kyrie. I mean they're they're

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gonna have to understand that whatever deal

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we make, it's not going to be something that's

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gonna help us restock the cupboard.

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Like it is. All right, we're gonna trade Kevin Durant. We're gonna

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get a lot forward, going to get some kind of package that's

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gonna help us move forward and

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build on whatever we have left over.

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I mean, it's it's really just gonna be hey,

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uh what what what can we get? And and and

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we're gonna wind up moving on because I

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can't I can't see any team that's going

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to give them anything where of of of real

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value, where the nets are gonna move forward

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and all right, this guy can be a piece for us. I just

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it's gonna wind up being one of those kinds of trades.

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Yes, I just again

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I think what Sean Marks takes back in

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return are probably expiring

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contracts, right, you know, trade

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exceptions, etc. But also

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culture guys. So do

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I do I think they'll get a star back in return?

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No, but I think they'll They'll

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be a specific desire and it'll have

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to be a place that he's he wants to go and he wants to show

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up. You know, you can have to have him work with you. But the

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Kyrie list before he opted in was

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like six or seven teams deep. And

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I still think that they'll get something

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back. I just they weren't

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open to taking Russell Westbrook early in the week.

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I don't see them being open to taking Russell of Westbrook.

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