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Coming up. Sports World is star

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for content. We know that Tom Brady delivered

2:26

Wednesday in a big way. He's

2:28

delivered a couple days. Thank you, Tom.

2:30

I owe Tom some of my paycheck. There

2:32

he did a long, wide ranging interview with

2:34

Howard Stern, and he

2:37

wasn't quite as open as some guests are

2:39

with Howard Stern. But for Tom Brady,

2:41

who hasn't said much in twenty years

2:44

by comparison, he was sort

2:46

of an open book there. He talked about his

2:48

problems in his marriage, going to therapy,

2:51

addressed his friendship with Donald Trump, discussed

2:53

the role of race in the locker room. For

2:56

some people he didn't go far enough, but

2:59

for others it was shockingly

3:01

open. If anything, it was a

3:03

reminder that sometimes the superstars

3:06

are just like us, or at least a little bit like us.

3:08

Brady complained about WiFi in the house

3:11

he's running from Derek Jeter and how difficult

3:13

it can be balancing work and a

3:15

marriage, and credit Howard Stern

3:17

and his interviewing skills. We'll see if

3:19

Tom Brady continues to be this open as he

3:21

takes on that new life after

3:24

life in New England. A couple

3:26

of things stood out. I didn't expect

3:28

to hear much football wise, because

3:30

Tom is so adept at not telling

3:32

you anything about football. Howard,

3:35

you know, probably looked at that and said, all right,

3:38

let me see if I can do a drive by with some of these

3:40

questions. And then he probably got bored

3:42

because he wasn't hearing anything that was really

3:44

titillating. Then he kind of honed

3:46

in on who Tom Brady really is.

3:48

And that's the family life. You know, what was

3:51

it like growing up? Did you smoke pot

3:53

in high school? Did you drink? Then

3:55

you start to talk about balancing your

3:57

career and you have a

4:00

wife who's one of the most famous women in the world

4:03

and makes more money than you, And

4:06

that's where you strike gold with something like

4:08

this. Because Brady goes to these press conferences.

4:11

He's interviewed every Monday on w

4:13

EI in Boston. He's interviewed

4:15

by Jim Gray on Monday nights

4:18

for the Monday Night Football in Westwood One. He's

4:20

used to avoiding dodging

4:23

downplaying football those

4:26

questions because w EI

4:29

and Jim Gray, they're not going to be asking about Giselle,

4:33

but he's on with Howard Stern. That's what Howard

4:35

Stern wants to ask you about. He's

4:37

more interested in that because that

4:39

interest him and as an interviewer,

4:42

you go to sweet spots that interest

4:45

you. No matter who I have

4:47

on there are certain questions I have to ask,

4:49

But then there are also things where where can

4:51

I go and get something out of

4:53

somebody. Whether it's Jerry

4:56

West when he talks about his childhood and

4:59

he talks about sleeping with a shotgun

5:01

and the fact that he was going to kill his dad,

5:04

that's more interesting than basketball because

5:07

that's life. We can

5:09

admire somebody on the basketball floor,

5:11

a baseball field, or a football field, but when they start

5:13

talking about something that could be personal

5:15

to us as well, or we've

5:18

lived in that moment where your

5:20

father's abusing your mother and he's twelve

5:22

years of age and he's got a shotgun and he's going

5:24

to kill his dad. Dale

5:27

Earnhardt Jr. Talking about his home

5:29

burning down right in front

5:31

of his eyes, and he's thinking, I

5:34

gotta go now live with my dad, and

5:36

what about my Christmas gifts? That's

5:38

what I wanted to know. Less dramatic with

5:40

Tom Brady, but he's talking about going

5:43

to a marriage counselor with his wife, and his wife

5:45

is saying, look, the season just

5:47

ended, and now you're going to go to a

5:49

voluntary workout. You got to get

5:51

home. I got kids here, and

5:54

she's got a career as well. But

5:57

that's what I liked because they're

5:59

just like everybody else. Those conversations.

6:02

I you know, I'm adamant

6:05

that Gizelle not tried

6:07

to sabotage Tom's career, but certainly

6:09

tried to speed up the process to get him retired

6:12

because a couple of years ago when she went on

6:14

the CBS Morning Show, she's

6:17

the one that brought up concussions. Tom

6:19

has not brought him up. Now he did have to address

6:21

it. I think she was saying, look, we're

6:24

done with this your legacy. Let's

6:26

come home now. Now we have to

6:28

have a life together. And I really

6:31

believe that she was trying to expedite

6:33

that. But you know, kudos to Howard

6:35

to get him, because once you get him,

6:37

he plays by your rules. They

6:40

come into your studio, they're on your show,

6:42

they play by your rules. And Tom

6:45

knew that. Now, could he have been a little bit

6:47

more open about his relationship with Donald

6:49

Trump or Colin Kaepernick

6:51

and the impact that it had on the locker room

6:54

around the NFL. Yes,

6:57

but I didn't go into this thinking Tom

6:59

is going to spill that much. I was surprised

7:01

he was doing it. I don't know if this is a

7:03

new Tom Brady. You

7:05

know the two interviews I've done, well, I've done

7:07

three interviews with him, one for ESPN

7:09

the Magazine, one prior to the Super

7:11

Bowl with the Eagles, and one

7:14

where he was on the show after he'd won a Super

7:16

Bowl. But those are all football related,

7:18

although ESPN the Magazine was a little

7:20

bit more fun questions

7:23

not necessarily x'es and o's with football,

7:26

and even the interview I did with him at the Super

7:28

Bowl prior to the Eagles matchup,

7:32

I did try to delve into the

7:34

whole Brady Belichick relationship.

7:37

And it's one of those answers that

7:41

I'm always going to think of when I think at Tom Brady,

7:43

just because I'm looking at him and saying, do

7:46

you think you and Bill will ever open

7:48

up the scrapbook and take a trip down memory

7:50

lane? And he looked at me like, are

7:53

you crazy? And

7:55

he goes no, And

7:58

like of all the things Brady has

8:00

ever said, that will stay

8:03

with me for the rest of my life when

8:05

you say, hey, Brady and Belichick, and

8:07

I always think of no

8:09

like that answer. It's just like he laughed.

8:12

He's like, you gotta be kidding me. That's

8:14

not what Bill does. But Brady

8:17

did talk about his legacy on the Howard

8:19

Sterns Show. This is courtesy of Serious XM,

8:22

and this is what he had to say.

8:24

I never cared about legacy. I mean

8:26

I could give it about that's never. I

8:29

never, once, when I was in high school, said man, I can't

8:31

wait for what my football legacy

8:34

looks like. I mean, that's

8:36

a very It's just not me. That's

8:39

not my personality. So why

8:41

would I choose a different place.

8:44

It's because it was just time. I don't

8:47

know what to say other than that, like I

8:49

had done everything. I accomplished

8:51

everything I could in two decades with

8:54

an incredible organization, incredible group

8:56

of people, and that will never change. And

8:58

no one can ever take that away from me.

9:01

No one can ever take those experience or super Bowl

9:03

championships away from us. All

9:06

Right, they're too busy playing. Sometimes

9:08

we worry about legacies. How many times

9:10

do you hear this? I'm even guilty of this. Oh

9:13

gosh, you know, I wish you would have retired a year

9:15

earlier. It's their careers.

9:18

If Tom Brady wants to play till he's forty

9:20

five, great Michael

9:23

Jordan. I saw where Jerry Stackhouse says,

9:26

I wish Michael hadn't come back to play

9:28

with us with the Washington Wizards. Okay,

9:31

but for Michael it was important, but

9:33

it was also important to become part

9:35

owner of that team. It was important

9:37

for the business side of Michael Jordan.

9:40

And if Tom Brady wants to play, if Drew Brees

9:42

wants to play. You know, Peyton Manning at

9:44

the end of his career, I didn't want

9:46

to see him play another year and

9:48

I sort of got through that year. You win a Super

9:51

Bowl and then you're done. You know,

9:53

there's certain players where you just go I'd

9:55

rather not remember you that way. But that's me being

9:57

selfish. I hope Brady plays

9:59

two more years, three more years, because

10:02

my Buccaneers, of course, are going to make the playoffs

10:04

and they're gonna bring back the cream Sickle. So then

10:07

it comes back to me. This is about my memories

10:09

here. But Brady,

10:13

good for him. You know, if he's

10:16

fine with the legacy and this doesn't

10:18

do anything to this can add to his legacy.

10:20

This does not subtract from

10:23

his legacy. It does not, in my

10:25

opinion. It's if he doesn't

10:27

make the playoffs the next two years and he's

10:29

an average quarterback, I don't think we're gonna

10:31

go. Yeah, but the Buccaneer years. Remember

10:34

when he went to Tampa Bay. When

10:36

somebody goes, oh, Johnny Uniteds with the Chargers

10:39

or Joe Namath with the Rams, I like how

10:41

we say we don't remember that, but we always bring

10:43

it up. Does anybody know what stats

10:45

they had? We just know that

10:47

they went there and they weren't that good. Yeah,

10:50

but the Charger years for Johnny

10:53

Uniteds. Here

10:56

is Tom Brady talking

10:58

about his loyalty with

11:00

Bill Belichick and vice versa. I

11:03

think he has a lot of loyalty, and I think he

11:05

and I have had a lot of conversations that nobody's

11:08

ever been privy to, and

11:10

nor should they be that so many

11:13

wrong assumptions were made about

11:15

our relationships or about

11:17

how he felt about me. I know

11:19

genuinely how he feels about me. I

11:22

also love this. This is one

11:25

where Brady realized, and Tom's

11:27

dad gave us a heads up

11:29

on this a couple of years ago. He said, at some

11:31

point and I'm paraphrasing, Belichick

11:34

will move on from Tom like he does

11:37

everybody else. And

11:40

I remember when we were going through this whole process,

11:43

I said, always remember

11:45

to Belichick, it's business.

11:48

To Brady, it's personal.

11:51

It's always personal with the employee.

11:54

The employer has to make it

11:57

business. Here is what he had

11:59

to say about Belichick being Belichick.

12:04

I'm not going to respond to every rumor

12:07

or assumption that's made other than

12:09

what his responsibility as coaches to try

12:12

to get the best player for the team, not

12:14

only in the short term but in the long term as well.

12:17

So what I could control was trying to be the best

12:19

I could be in both of those situations.

12:21

Also, so I

12:24

got into unchartered territory as

12:26

an athlete because I

12:29

started to break the mold of

12:31

what you know so many other athletes

12:35

had experience. So I got to a point where I

12:37

was old, I was an older athlete, and

12:39

he started a plan for the future, which

12:42

is what his responsibility is. And

12:44

I don't fault him for that, and that's what

12:46

he should be doing. That's what every coach should be doing.

12:49

Also, understand, Brady benefited from

12:52

this style that Belichick had that

12:55

you could get rid of players. They were interchangeable.

12:58

Except for Brady. He was the constant.

13:02

Bill didn't discriminate. He'd

13:04

get rid of young and old, all pro future

13:06

Hall of Famer, or a guy who was just

13:09

hanging he had. He didn't care. He's

13:12

a businessman. We

13:14

get caught up in oh gosh,

13:17

you must have a great relationship. All

13:19

the memories, he

13:22

got rid of all of them. Troy

13:25

Brown, lawyer molloy, I mean, run

13:27

down the list, Richard Seymour. He

13:31

didn't care. It's like this

13:33

is business in our

13:35

minds. Brady was telling us before

13:38

last year when he sold his house and when

13:40

his trainer partner put up his house

13:43

as well. He was saying, this

13:46

is my last year. We just didn't

13:48

want to believe it. Somehow

13:50

Rex Ryan got involved in this conversations.

13:52

Only Rex Ryan cann who's now retired.

13:55

He works for the Mothership. You

13:58

know. The conversation was, I

14:00

guess who is more important for

14:02

the success? Who would you rather have? You

14:05

know, Bradier Belichick And we

14:07

mentioned this yesterday. You know who's more

14:09

responsible for this success of the Patriots.

14:11

And to me, it's a no brainer. It's Belichick.

14:14

And then Rex Ryan got involved in this. Rex

14:18

said, if I've got to take one, I'm taking

14:20

Brady. Ryan said he would

14:22

have won a trophy case full

14:24

of Lombardies if he had been coaching

14:26

a quarterback as great as Brady, and

14:29

although Ryan called Belichick

14:31

the best of all time, he added that he

14:33

doesn't think Belichick would have done as well

14:35

if he would have been stuck with a bad quarterback

14:38

like say Gino Smith, who

14:40

Ryan coached in his last two years with

14:42

the Jets. Rex

14:45

goes on to saying, let's give him

14:47

somebody else. Let's give him Gino Smith,

14:49

Let's give him whoever, and let's see

14:51

how many Super Bowls he would have won. We

14:54

saw the answer was zero. In Cleveland,

14:58

Oh, Rex, Rex can be a clo. Sometimes

15:01

didn't Rex draft Geno Smith.

15:06

So you're right, Bill Belichick would

15:08

not have won these super Bowls with Gino Smith.

15:11

But Bill Belichick wouldn't

15:13

have drafted Gino Smith and gave him

15:15

the keys to his offense there. So

15:19

I mean Brady was but a

15:22

sixth round pick. He was picked number

15:24

one ninety nine.

15:27

I mean he found somebody. Rex

15:31

took Gino Smith, and

15:34

you know, I feel bad for Gino Smith. He gets

15:36

brought back into this. He did call Rex a snake.

15:38

But you know, here's Rex who's had

15:41

quite a couple of weeks here where you

15:43

know what he called him, Maari Cooper and

15:46

now bringing Geno Smith into this and

15:48

the fact that Belichick didn't win in Cleveland

15:51

therefore proves that, hey, it's

15:53

all about Tom Brady. Bill

15:56

could have won a Super Bowl, I think with a couple

15:58

other quarterbacks in there as well, but he probably

16:00

would have been smart enough to say Gino Smith's

16:02

probably not the quarterback that we want. Yes,

16:05

mclovin, good morning, Good morning.

16:07

So you know, ESPN are they going to promote

16:10

the heck out of Rex Ryan the coming weeks he's on this

16:12

role. They must love this. Yeah.

16:14

I mean he's doing what he's supposed to

16:16

do. I mean, this is what Rex did as a coach.

16:19

I mean he's sort of the ex

16:22

coach who's bought into the Skip Bayliss

16:24

playbook. I mean, say things, put

16:26

it out there. Who cares if you need to

16:29

back it up with any stats or something. But

16:32

Rex is creating headlines and that's what

16:34

they want. Absolutely, you

16:37

know, factually I have some issues

16:39

with that, but it's okay. Don't worry

16:41

about that. Just have some fun and throw it out

16:43

there. All right, we'll get some poll

16:46

question suggestions here. What are you leaning towards?

16:48

Mcloven? By the way the Masters would have been started,

16:50

it would have started already today, and

16:52

we'll talk to Jim Nace. So Jim nance was going

16:54

to have the National Title Game and then he was

16:56

going to have the Masters, you know, back to back, biggest

16:59

events that you you can have, and

17:02

wonder what he's doing. Quarantine

17:05

did, Although I will say if I'm Quarantine

17:07

where Jim lives, I'd be

17:09

okay. I'm okay, I would be

17:11

fine with that. McLevin, what do you have?

17:13

Poll question wise? Okay, we have

17:15

a scorcher. But I'm gonna ask you a question

17:17

first. Do you and you actually

17:20

comment on this? Do you really believe Tom Brady

17:22

when he says he doesn't care about his legacy, because

17:24

a lot of people are skeptical about that. I

17:30

think he knows it's firmly established.

17:33

I don't think he can hurt it now. I

17:35

don't know if he's ever cared about his legacy.

17:37

I would say I doubt that. When he

17:39

won that fourth Super Bowl, I have

17:41

to believe he's thinking, if I

17:44

get to five, now, all of

17:46

a sudden, I've got more than my

17:48

childhood idol Joe

17:50

Montana. So do I think that

17:53

he had that? Yes, Now the debate

17:55

is over, so maybe he doesn't think about his legacy.

17:58

But when he won his fourth, I have

18:00

to believe he's thinking, if I win

18:02

my fifth. I mean we're talking about that

18:04

with you know, Kobe going

18:06

after Jordan, with Lebron going

18:08

after Jordan. I think they think of their

18:11

legacies. And I feel like Brady

18:14

is, you know, the same as those guys. You

18:16

get to that point where you know, now

18:19

you can't you know, I've

18:21

ended the debate. And

18:23

I think that's what Tom did when he won his fifth. Yeah.

18:25

Point, And if he is thinking about it, he must

18:27

be thinking there's upside in Tampa Bay.

18:29

If I get a ring in the next two years with Tampa Bay

18:31

without my old coach, with Bruce arians, then

18:34

people when they say who was it, who was the

18:36

main cog in this? You know he would go

18:38

scoreboard. Oh, it'll

18:40

definitely change. I think the conversation.

18:42

I would say narrative, but I hate using that word

18:44

narrative. It changed the conversation where

18:46

you go? Hey, Tom, I went to a Super

18:49

Bowl with Tampa and

18:51

is Belichick going to go back to the Super Bowl anytime?

18:54

Sin? Who goes to a Super Bowl first?

18:56

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19:12

love this poll because we were debating a pre

19:14

show. Do you want me to say it now? Or you're gonna

19:16

save it? Because I'm gonna take a break and

19:19

it's that hunt. We'll

19:22

come back with Ernie Johnson on loan from

19:24

TNT. Your phone calls are welcome, and

19:27

Jack Nichols coming up the top of next hour.

19:30

We'll also talk to Jim Nance, who will join

19:32

us in Doctor Myron Roll, the

19:34

former NFL defensive back take

19:36

a break nineteen after the hour. Just getting

19:38

started on this Thursday, Dan and The Danas

19:41

Dan Patrick Show. All right, mcloven, what

19:43

are you going with? Okay? Would you

19:45

rather be a doctor

19:47

or a professional athlete? This is off our upcoming

19:49

guests Doctor Myron Roll, former standout

19:52

defensive back Florida State NFL player. So

19:54

would you rather your kids, sorry, be a doctor

19:57

or a pro athlete? What do

19:59

I want my could be? You

20:04

know, publicly, I would say, well, doctor,

20:06

of course, because they could get back to the community

20:08

and they could change lives and save lives.

20:11

But then there's part of me to be like, probably

20:13

an athlete, because I have four kids and nobody's

20:16

athletic. I'd probably say,

20:18

you know what, if they're a second baseman for the Detroit

20:20

Tigers for eleven years, I'll take that.

20:23

I'd be good with that. Anybody

20:25

else joining me with the athlete, Yes, mclovin,

20:28

Well, second basement for Detroit tiret They probably

20:30

make two hundred million baseball salaries. Crazy,

20:33

especially anyone up the middle of the field. Forget

20:35

it. No, I don't think it's even close. Like

20:37

athletes are like today's society's

20:39

gods. There's nothing that's seem closing

20:42

and not a single job out there anybody taking

20:44

doctor. Yes, point, well, I gotta qualify

20:46

this. Is it pediatrist versus the starter

20:49

for the Cubs? No, no, no, you're not a

20:52

high profile athlete on this. My

20:54

kids, this second baseman for the Tigers, the

20:56

Bears quarterback, or a proctologist. I'm going Bears

20:58

quarterback. Actually, I wouldn't want that. They're both is saying

21:00

yeah, they're both crappy jobs. They

21:02

are, Yeah, Seaton O'Connor.

21:05

So do we just qualify at them by

21:07

saying, set take salary out of it, and

21:09

everybody's making three hundred

21:12

grand a year or whatever doctors make. I think I

21:14

got to include the salary you do. Yeah,

21:16

I think athlete all day. Yes,

21:18

Todd, I'm gonna go doctor. As much

21:20

as I'd love to see my son some pro

21:23

team and all that, and I'll be excited to go to a stadium

21:25

and arena to watch. There's just something

21:27

about being able to say that your son or daughter

21:30

is a doctor. That would mean more to me

21:32

than being a good or a great athlete.

21:34

So that'd be just another doctor you wouldn't listen to.

21:36

Oh no, pretty much. Yeah, that's not necessary,

21:41

though it is necessary. I

21:43

could be better about it. I could do better about that.

21:45

That's always Todd's response. Uh, yeah,

21:48

hey, you're working out, you know, you know we could be better.

21:51

I don't know who we is. You got a mounse in your pocket.

21:54

I'll go on the treadmill for forty five minutes. A

21:56

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22:17

R. He's Ernie Johnson, Turner's

22:19

sports host, host of Inside the NBA

22:21

Outstanding Sports Personality, host,

22:24

the winner of the Sports Emmy four

22:26

times, and he joins us on the program. Ernie,

22:29

how are you today? GP?

22:32

I am about as well as you

22:34

can expect, and I hope you're doing well too.

22:36

We're doing okay. Do you have a man cave at the Hume?

22:40

I have an office. I don't really

22:42

call it a man cave. It's it

22:45

is an office that has you know, the

22:48

TV, and has my work

22:50

stuff in there and memorabilia

22:52

and that kind of thing. But I just usually

22:54

spend a lot of night, you know, late nights in there

22:56

when I'm doing research

22:59

and that kind of thing and work and when

23:01

everybody's asleep but yeah,

23:03

it's not it's not a full blown man cave

23:06

because people can walk past it all the time.

23:09

Kids can walk in, grandkids can

23:11

walk in, dogs walk in. So it's

23:14

it's my version. Do you collect sports

23:16

memorabilia? You

23:19

know, not intentionally? Really,

23:22

it's kind of crazy. I have

23:24

a lot of stuff through

23:26

the years, and I don't know if you do the same thing,

23:28

but you know, I'll I'll throw something in a box.

23:31

I threw a credential in a box. You know, I'll

23:33

throw various things.

23:35

And the other day

23:38

are actually over the last few months, my

23:41

wife and I have kind of said you need

23:44

She said, you need to get rid of some of this stuff.

23:46

It's in the basement or and

23:48

so we have a room and it's kind of set aside

23:50

now. And I went through it the other day when I was amazed

23:53

at some of the things that I had kept. Dan.

23:56

You know, I was started in the radio back in the seventies,

23:59

and in nineteen seventy

24:01

seven I was working at Q one oh five

24:03

radio and appens and I

24:06

actually kept a desk

24:08

calendar, one of those with the flip over pages,

24:11

and I in a box and the bottom of a box

24:14

was this desk calendar, so I started

24:17

looking through it and then I needed

24:19

to call Bill Kratzert immediately

24:22

because Bill was a great golfer at the

24:24

University of Georgia. I

24:27

would later work with him twenty

24:29

five years later on the PGA Championship,

24:32

but he was a note for this December

24:34

day that was going to be Bill Kratzert Day at the

24:36

University of Georgia golf course, and I

24:38

needed to go cover it. And

24:40

it was just very bizarre, and that was

24:42

kind of like, you know what, it's kind of a good thing that

24:44

you hold on to some of this stuff. I've

24:47

been able to throw some away, but

24:49

I do have some things that kind of have some meaning,

24:51

you know, after years a year, I

24:53

can't throw stuff away. I mean, that's why

24:56

I have the man cave. I moved

24:58

into a big man cave, bigger Man cave,

25:00

just because I have all of this stuff

25:03

that I collected and I

25:05

knew one day it might come in handy and it

25:08

has because I have

25:11

a chance to show it all off. And I

25:14

don't know what I'm gonna do when I retire, because

25:17

this is a I have the best man cave

25:19

anybody has. I'm sure

25:21

I'm sure it's crazy, you know. You

25:23

know what, you know, what's ridiculous is that I

25:26

come to this. I have this

25:28

dilemma. I'm standing in the middle of my

25:30

basement and I'm trying to decide if I should

25:32

throw away this good Will Games T

25:35

shirt from Russia that has a

25:37

bunch of mysterious

25:39

you know, like coffee stains and dirt

25:42

on it. And I'm saying, wow, I can't

25:44

really hang it up. I don't want to people do, but

25:46

I can't really throw it away either. So it's

25:48

now what's back in the box, and it's hidden from my

25:50

wife. Certain why don't you film this, Ernie?

25:53

Why don't you? Why didn't you do a kind

25:55

of a virtual tour of all the things

25:57

that you might be throwing out?

26:00

About doing that, I've thought about going down into

26:02

the because really I now have

26:04

like these two rooms. I have the office upstairs,

26:07

and I have this place in the basement downstairs,

26:10

a room that we finished where I have hung

26:12

a few things up, you know, and You've got a cal Ripken

26:15

jersey down there, and I've got a few

26:17

other you know, things and hats from

26:20

various events and memos

26:22

that were I have memos

26:25

from Turner in the eighties.

26:27

You know that I've that I've held onto

26:30

and there's just part of me

26:32

that says, don't let go of that. And

26:35

so yeah, it would kind of be a it would

26:37

kind of be a fun virtual tour. And

26:39

these days we're all looking for fun

26:42

virtual things to do, aren't we. Absolutely?

26:44

Ernie Johnson Turner sports host and a

26:46

host of Inside the NBA.

26:48

What do you miss most about Shack is

26:54

laugh probably, and the and the

26:56

joy he gets out of coming

26:58

into work and trying to do something that gets

27:00

two billion you two bits? I

27:03

think I think that's probably, But

27:06

you know, I kind of miss them all for the same reason I missed

27:08

him and Kenny and Charles all for that same

27:11

reason that we just have this kind of this I

27:13

can't describe the bond we have,

27:15

but I've told people that I grew up with two

27:17

older sisters and this is as close as I'll ever

27:20

come to having brothers. And I just miss hanging

27:22

with them. Man. You know, It's like, uh,

27:25

you just miss the little things

27:27

about being together doing and doing

27:29

the show, and you miss the you

27:32

know, the two fifteen comments about

27:34

you know from Kenny, you know, threatening the producer,

27:36

SI, we've better hurry up these last two segments. I got

27:38

to get out of here at two fifteen in the morning, so

27:41

I miss all that stuff. If

27:43

I would have told you a month ago this is where

27:45

we would be with the NBA, what would

27:47

you have said, I

27:53

think I would have I think I would have believed

27:55

that at that point. I mean, because it really

27:57

has been you know, it's been a month. And

28:01

um, that night that there

28:03

were no games for the first time, and the night after

28:05

the the suspension, and we had

28:08

Adam Silver on the show, and just

28:11

the vibe that we got from him and talking

28:14

to him, UM was

28:16

you know, hey, this is a this is a great unknown

28:18

and we just kind of have to wait. And so I

28:20

had never thought at that point that hey, maybe in a couple

28:23

of weeks things would be back to normal. But

28:26

then when I spoke to him earlier this week

28:28

again we had a we had this initiative

28:30

called, you know, hashtag NBA Together,

28:33

in which we you

28:36

know, we just kind of catch up to people around the NBA.

28:38

Might spend fifteen twenty minutes, might spend a half

28:41

hour with him on the phone. And I

28:43

asked him that same thing I said, Adham, do you know any

28:45

more than we knew when we spoke a month

28:47

ago, And He's like, not really said

28:50

I know enough to say that I don't that we're not going to have

28:52

any kind of a decision in

28:54

the month of April about where we're going, and

28:57

and so yeah, it's um, I

29:01

just I just hope

29:03

we're all culting the right way. And I know, you know, look,

29:05

can I be totally honest with you, then I've

29:08

been okay, I've been inconvenienced.

29:10

I can say that, Look, um there

29:13

are people out there who are really really struggling

29:16

during this time. You

29:18

know, we've been inconvenienced by a schedule.

29:20

I still I'm able to do work from

29:22

my house, you know, to do these interviews,

29:25

and to do like a virtual journalism

29:27

school for for college kids and

29:29

and and you

29:32

know, we're doing okay, but man, my heart

29:34

just goes out for those books who were who

29:37

were hoping that you know, e

29:39

Ventilator shows up and that place

29:42

masks show up. Um Man,

29:45

it's this is this is very hard.

29:48

And I would watch I watched that movie Contagion the other

29:50

night. I told myself I wasn't going to do it. And the

29:52

neighbor said, you should watch it, and it's

29:54

amazing how this twenty eleven movie

29:57

mirrors what we're what we're looking at now

29:59

in many respects. You can

30:01

see Ernie interviewing some of the biggest names in

30:03

the NBA on episodes of hashtag NBA

30:06

together, Mondays and Wednesdays, visit

30:08

at NBA handle on social media.

30:11

Co host of the steam Room podcast with Charles

30:13

Barklay. Also, Ernie has his journalism

30:16

school and you can find out

30:18

more at Turner Sports EJ.

30:21

I thought about you yesterday we had Hank Aaron

30:23

on and you

30:25

know, the anniversary of him

30:27

breaking Babe Bruce record, and he

30:30

was one of my just one of my favorite people. He's eighty

30:32

six years of age. And I thought of your father

30:34

too, you know, longtime broadcaster for

30:37

the Braves. And then I thought of Craig Sager

30:40

because Sagar's on the damn field

30:42

at home Plate with a white

30:44

trench coat and I'm going, only

30:48

Sagar could do it. And I think he

30:50

has his a little portable radio

30:53

microphone that he's holding up as it's

30:56

still so suit surrealistic

30:58

where two guys run on the field.

31:01

Hank is trying to keep his dignity. Rounding

31:03

third, heading for home and there's Craig Sagar

31:06

chasing him to home plate with

31:08

this with the same haircut from

31:12

from Segar went

31:14

wire to wire with that, he went wire

31:16

to wire. Yeah, it never had

31:19

never changed, and it was and

31:21

it is amazing to consider that because

31:23

when you think about these days and

31:26

and obviously how tight

31:28

security is at all these events,

31:30

that a guy could run out with

31:33

that trench coat, with

31:35

a radio shack cape recorder,

31:38

no visible credential, and

31:41

that haircut and speak

31:43

with Hank Aaron as he touches home plate

31:46

is absolutely stunning. Did

31:49

that did the hammer? Remember Greg

31:51

in that in that scene

31:54

at the plate, he said

31:56

one of the guys who came onto the field became

31:58

a doctor. He remembered his mom holding

32:00

on tightly. I didn't bring up Sagar,

32:03

but I'm sure Hank probably

32:05

is wondering, I got all my teammates out here, my

32:07

mom and some dude and

32:09

a bad haircut and a trench got exactly

32:16

right. But I think I think Craig actually

32:18

did get like a usable couple

32:21

of seconds out of that from from

32:23

hearing the playback later, because

32:26

you could hear his question and like

32:30

and then you hear like, you know, people

32:33

you know kind of going crazy around him.

32:35

But that was Segs. You know, that

32:37

was a guy who's like, if there was a big

32:39

event anywhere, he wanted to be

32:41

there, even if we weren't covering it. And back

32:44

then he was when he was a radio guy

32:46

in Florida somewhere. Ye who who

32:48

had gone up there to see, I'm going to cover this

32:50

game, but who knew that? You know, his

32:53

designs were to actually, you

32:55

know, greet Henry at

32:57

the play. It was. It

33:00

was that is one of the that was one of the classic

33:03

It's almost like if you were watching

33:05

a movie where a guy was dreaming about

33:08

he wished he wished he had been at the

33:10

ballpark when Henry Ran had seven fifteen

33:13

and then he envisioned himself as this

33:15

guy. But it was a real life deal

33:17

for Segs. Man, It's

33:20

again, I shake my head and

33:22

it just brings a smile in my face because

33:24

that's the way. That's the way Segs went

33:26

after it. Man. You know, it didn't have to

33:28

be an assignment like Returner for him

33:30

to be at a big event. He just loved it.

33:33

He truly loved going

33:35

to those events. I'll leave you with this, U,

33:39

but where do you think we're going to get to where

33:41

we're at the point of no return with trying to squeeze

33:44

in playoffs here with the season? You got to

33:46

feel for that. I don't know. I tried

33:48

to. I tried to get that. I tried

33:51

to get you know, really kind of any

33:53

kind of a timeline from the commissioner the other day, and

33:55

it would probably be hit mean for me, it'd

33:57

be all speculations. So I can't. I

33:59

don't, but I'm looking at it, and I'm

34:01

saying, you know, where do you

34:03

know if you come back, if you come back

34:05

in

34:07

uh in June? And I

34:09

don't know. I mean, can

34:11

you finish a regular season? That's why there are

34:13

so many variables. Can you finish

34:15

a regular season and give a team like

34:18

the Portland Trailblazers that's number nine

34:20

right now a chance to move up to eight over

34:23

fifteen games? I don't

34:25

think you know? And then you're saying,

34:27

how's this going to impact next season?

34:29

You know? Then how do you want to So

34:32

I'm not so VP. I'm I'm not

34:34

trying to dodge it, but I am trying to dodge it. Because

34:36

I don't want to put something out there that suddenly people

34:38

are saying, oh, thank good. He thinks it's going to

34:40

start in June. I have no idea, and

34:42

I and I and I told the commissioner the

34:45

other day, I said, look, if you

34:47

know, I've heard all these things about going to Vegas

34:49

and having a tournament and all this stuff and quarantine

34:52

in the teams. And I just said, unless

34:55

we can be absolutely certain.

34:58

And the very medical official

35:01

has signed off on this and said, it's

35:03

not going to be a you know, a danger

35:06

to anybody's health, but you better be sure

35:08

because as long as there is the possibility,

35:11

there are worse things in the world than not

35:14

being able to crown a champion in the

35:16

NBA this year. You know, I

35:19

just think for the greater good, you've got to consider

35:21

all that. So I hope we're back

35:23

plan. But man, there's there's

35:25

a lot more there's a lot more stuff to consider

35:28

these days. It's that weighs a lot

35:30

heavier than that. I hope the family's

35:32

great. Always great to talk to you, Ernie, Thank you, and

35:35

hopefully talk soon and have some basketball to talk

35:37

about. Yeah, we're doing well

35:39

here. I hope you guys are too, and we'll

35:42

get through this and yeah, we'll

35:44

talk again and I'll maybe I'll give you a

35:46

virtual tour of that room. I

35:49

can't wait. Thank you. That's

35:52

Ernie Johnson, and we'll take

35:54

a break. I got our play of the day coming up, Jack

35:56

Nicholas at the top of the hour, and

35:59

also check in with you Nance who will join us

36:01

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36:03

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36:15

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coming up at the top of the hour. I just notice.

37:01

Two years ago, Jack Nicholas sent me a

37:03

birthday gift. He sent

37:05

me a picture that

37:08

had a montage of a lot of his great

37:10

golf wins, and then it said happy birthday,

37:13

Dan Smiley face,

37:16

and then it said Jack Nicholas. Maybe

37:20

he was just cleaning out his basement and thought, Hey,

37:22

what am I going to do with this thing? Nobody

37:24

wants this? Oh. I sent one to Van Pelt

37:26

and Greeney, and send one to that

37:29

Jim Patrick there who left ESPN. But

37:32

jackal Joon is coming up top of the arm. I

37:34

saw this from Michae Lombardi. Michael

37:37

Lombardi has worked in some front

37:39

offices over his career. He's

37:41

got a GM Shuffle podcast,

37:44

and he was talking about two a tongue of ioloah,

37:46

And from what I'm reading,

37:49

it feels like Michael Lombardi

37:52

is saying two a tongue of ioloa

37:54

has broken his wrist twice,

37:58

which would be new information. And

38:01

by the way, they don't say which risk. I'm assuming

38:03

it's his left one, his throwing one. If

38:05

it's his right one, I'm not his concerned.

38:09

Lombardi said media draft experts don't

38:11

consider durability and injury

38:13

histories enough putting together their mocked drafts.

38:17

He says he's brittle. You can't

38:19

deny it. You can't deny it. He

38:23

said, two teams have flunked

38:27

tongue of Ioloa on his physical

38:31

It comes down to this, the

38:34

fear, like what is going to scare you more? The

38:36

fear of taking him or the

38:38

fear of passing on him. I

38:41

understand if Miami takes him and

38:43

you don't plan this first year, but

38:46

if you're trading up to get to Ah, that's

38:48

when the fear really sets in. If you say I gotta

38:50

go up two spots. If

38:53

he's there at five, okay, But

38:56

if I now have to go up to three and I

38:58

have to give up a number one to the Lion to

39:00

go to three to ensure I get him, because

39:02

it feels I

39:04

think the Chargers would be interested in

39:06

him, and the

39:08

Dolphins are saying they might be interested in justin Herbert.

39:11

Okay, is there a mystery

39:13

team that might want

39:15

to go up and get him? And

39:18

I know it sounds crazy because they

39:20

have Derek Carr and they have Marcus

39:22

Mariota, but I do wonder about

39:25

Tuah as a raider. They

39:29

have draft picks. I don't know, because

39:31

nobody is going to show you their cards. I

39:34

mean, you're crazy to tell anybody the truth

39:36

nowadays. And that's why I

39:38

keep thinking, all right, we're

39:40

eventually going to get the truth. It'll start to leak

39:42

out, maybe two days before the

39:45

draft. That's when you start to get some real information

39:47

here. But I can't imagine that if

39:50

the Miami Dolphins have to move up and

39:53

offer up a number one pick to the Lions,

39:57

I don't know, that's when the fear starts

39:59

to set in, a fear of taking him not passing. Yeah,

40:01

mclovin, we're going to break the internet.

40:03

Just based on that statement. Raiders like to a question

40:06

mark, that's very

40:08

very interesting. Somebody a lot of sense. Somebody

40:10

is going to be interested in one

40:12

of these quarterbacks they

40:15

are. It happens every year, it

40:19

and I don't know. There's always a mystery team

40:21

where you go on, I didn't know that they were

40:24

interested in him. What are you willing

40:26

to give up to go up and get him? Is somebody

40:28

going to wait for Jordan Love to fall

40:30

into their lap? Like if

40:32

you if the Dolphins could wait for

40:34

Jordan Love to develop, that

40:37

might make more sense if you really

40:40

like him and you have Ryan Fitzpatrick at least

40:42

for a year, because Jordan Love is not going to be ready

40:44

for probably two years at the earliest.

40:47

But yeah,

40:49

a little bit of time, a little bit of misinformation

40:52

usually thrown out there, but you know, that's

40:54

Michael Lombardi, who was well respected

40:57

and says that he thinks two has broken

40:59

that risk twice. Jack Nicholas

41:01

will join us coming up in ten minutes from

41:03

now here on The Dan Patrick Show.