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Yes, McLevin was supposed to dress as
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a Titan today, having
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lost that bet to me, he had
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the Ravens, I had the Titans, and where
2:33
is said Titan outfit? So
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me and the production team did a
2:38
lot of work on Sunday and we
2:40
need till Friday to perfect the costume,
2:43
which is very tightan like, so
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I figured Friday, I'm asking for a stay
2:49
of execution. It's tightened
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like now, it's not a Titan uniform, a
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Tennessee Titan uniform. No, no, it's I'm not less
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Derik Henry. It's a more clash
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of the tight clash of the Titans.
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Okay, that'll be Friday, Yeah,
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Friday leading into their big game
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in the championship games. All right, at
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what point did you realize you were in trouble with this bet?
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So when they narrowed at the fourteenth
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six, I think at halftime, I'm like off you they're
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gonna roll in second half. I'm not gonna worry about that
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in twenty nineteen, and this
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weekend we were reminded why because
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this is the best drama
4:01
on TV now. It started with the
4:04
Niners and Vikings, and there wasn't any drama
4:06
there. But I think what happens is
4:08
because the Niners were so great,
4:10
we kind of moved on from that. We were looking for
4:13
some excitement, so then you focused
4:15
in on what happened with the Titans and the Ravens.
4:17
You know, the Packers and the Seahawks was really
4:19
interesting. And of course the Chiefs and the
4:22
Texans don't lose,
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you know, don't lose sight of what the Niners did. The
4:27
Niners defensively, did
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you know, as something as impressive as what
4:32
the Chiefs did offensively? That Niner
4:35
team shut down the Vikings. I know
4:37
we can go back and say, well, Kirk Cousins
4:39
or you know, predictable play calling, but
4:42
what they did and the president they applied
4:45
that was a very, very impressive. It reminded
4:47
me of the Bears against the
4:49
Patriots in the Super Bowl back
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in nineteen eighty five. I think
4:53
the Patriots that day had seven carries
4:56
for seven yards, got sacked
4:58
seven times. I think that Niner
5:01
defense is quick and they are
5:03
on you right away. We'll talk to one of
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their great defensive lineman, DeForrest
5:07
Buckner. He'll join us a little bit later on. But
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you know, the chaos broke out when the number
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six Titans shocked the Ravens,
5:15
the first time a number six seed beat a number
5:17
one seed since twenty ten. That
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was I think back when the Packers did
5:22
that. Went to the Super Bowl on Sunday,
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the Texans were up twenty four zip and
5:26
then Kansas City went on a fifty one
5:28
to seven run. The
5:31
nightcap last night, Aaron Rodgers, Russell
5:33
Wilson Jr. The third, and the Packers held
5:35
on to win a close one. So that sets
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up Packers Niners again.
5:40
Part two. Part one didn't go well
5:42
for Green Bay the Titans against the
5:44
Chiefs, So good luck picking
5:46
winners here. And I know that you probably
5:48
want to write off the Titans. They're
5:51
seven point underdogs. The Packers
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they're seven point underdogs as well.
5:55
It feels like the Titans should be a
5:57
little bit more of an underdog. But man,
5:59
give credit to Mike Rabel that running
6:01
attack. But to me, it was their defense.
6:04
I thought the defense got in Lamar
6:06
Jackson's face early. I thought I thought
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Baltimore abandoned the run a little too soon.
6:11
There. I don't need you to be cute,
6:14
you don't need to go well, they're playing the runs,
6:16
so we're going to pass. If you feel
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that confident about and you're running attack, then
6:20
go get them, because there's nothing more demoralizing
6:23
than running the football down somebody's throat.
6:26
But Tennessee did exactly
6:28
that. Give them credit. They played
6:31
a perfect game. Pretty much a perfect
6:33
game, and that's what you needed. But you know what,
6:35
they blew out Baltimore. I saw
6:37
this tweet from Adam Schefter because if
6:40
you're a Baltimore fan, I mean, this hurts.
6:42
This hurts bad because you
6:45
were the odds on favorite certainly to go to
6:47
the Super Bowl. But as Chefti points
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out, the Ravens are in great shape
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for next season. Every Ravens offensive
6:54
starters under contract for next season. They're
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forty five million dollars under the salary
6:58
cap, and the Ravens current your schedule
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to have nine draft picks. I
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also don't want to hear this, and I've
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said this many times during the season.
7:07
We do we have a referendum where we feel
7:09
like one game either somebody's
7:12
really good or somebody's really bad. Lamar
7:14
Jackson is really good. He's great.
7:18
You know. The game plan is if
7:20
you crowd the middle of the field and you make
7:22
him throw out, you know, to the side, you
7:25
know, then that's what that's what you
7:27
want there. That would be his weakness.
7:30
But he's still a great player.
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He's going to be the MVP, and
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he'll grow from this. He grew from last
7:37
year's loss. Look at what he did. He
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led the NFL and touchdown passes,
7:42
he rushed for a thousand yards, and
7:45
he'll be as good, if not better, next year
7:48
because everybody had their chance to try to figure
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out how to slow him down. Give Mike
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Rabel and the Titans all the credit. They
7:55
did a wonderful job. And then once you
7:57
get up by fourteen to nothing, because
8:00
I was worried if they if they went down seven
8:03
or fourteen or even ten points, then
8:05
the Titans were going to be in trouble. But
8:08
it was the opposite, and Baltimore was
8:10
the one in trouble last night with Green
8:12
Bay and Seattle. And
8:15
you know, I've been doing this such a long
8:18
time that you see the start of somebody's
8:20
career in the end of somebody's career. And
8:22
I did find it interesting how we were viewing
8:25
a thirty six year old Aaron Rodgers. There's
8:27
nothing thirty six about him.
8:29
I mean it truly isn't you
8:31
know. Philip Rivers started to look his age,
8:34
Tom Brady started to look his age, Drew
8:36
Brees starting to look his age. Ben
8:38
Roethlisberger. Aaron Rodgers
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doesn't play, doesn't look, doesn't feel
8:43
like he's thirty six. Now he may feel
8:46
like he's forty six after he plays against
8:48
San Francisco this next weekend. But what
8:51
I saw last night, I never looked
8:53
at him an attached an age,
8:55
because there's a certain point when
8:58
quarterbacks get to thirty five
9:00
or thirty six that their age has always
9:02
mentioned with their name. Tom
9:05
Brady forty two, like
9:07
Philip Rivers thirty eight. You know, Drew
9:09
Brees, it's always starts
9:12
to tag along with you and Aaron
9:14
Rodgers at thirty six. At
9:16
no point last night that I think that he was
9:18
a thirty six year old quarterback. Green
9:21
Bay has a surprisingly good
9:23
defense under the radar defense,
9:26
and you got Davante Adams and a little
9:28
bit of a running game there. San Francisco
9:30
at least knows what is not successful
9:33
against San Francisco. But can you
9:35
change that game plan up because that pass rush
9:37
is really, really impressive. All
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right, Nicoleabne, you got a pull question for me. Also, I'll
9:43
give you my national title pick coming
9:45
up in a little bit. Congratulations
9:48
to Bill Cower and Jimmy Johnson. They were surprised
9:50
over the weekend to be named to the Pro Football
9:53
Hall of Fame. I felt i felt
9:55
bad for Cower because I don't think Bill, even
9:58
though he loves the honor, I don't he likes
10:00
to be in surprised like that. And
10:02
it was because I think he was saying, you
10:05
know something along the lines of I
10:08
hope you're not doing this to me, and
10:10
he realized that they were doing that to him. And
10:13
then you know, one of his daughters. He
10:15
had lost his wife who passed away, and
10:17
his new wife was there on the
10:19
set with them on CBS and it
10:22
was a great moment. And then Jimmy Johnson as well.
10:24
It's nice to see people get
10:26
out of what their TV personality
10:29
is, where you see who they really are,
10:31
and you got to see that with Jimmy Johnson
10:33
and certainly Bill Cower. Yes mcvin, Okay,
10:36
for what you were saying, which divisional round loser will
10:38
make the super Bowl first? So
10:41
who has like the best chance of taken the next up? The
10:43
Vikings, Ravens, Texans
10:45
or Seahawks. I'm
10:47
gonna go Ravens. Yeah,
10:50
the Texans, Okay,
10:53
I rail on them. I'm not
10:55
a big fan of their head coach, and
10:59
I don't want somebody to get fired. But
11:01
if you said to me that Romeo Cornell
11:03
got fired today as their defensive coordinator.
11:05
I would go, Okay, I understand it. Or
11:07
Bill O'Brien got fired, even though I think he's
11:10
got three years left on his deal, I would
11:12
understand it. You know, they might be
11:14
the newer version of the San Diego La
11:16
Chargers where you go, but they got a lot of
11:18
talent, but they're not
11:20
able to produce love. DeShawn wants it. Love
11:23
DeShawn wants it, but man,
11:25
there's something missing there. And maybe
11:27
they were going to lose anyway. And
11:30
we can talk about the strategy there with
11:32
Bill O'Brien that you don't go for it on fourth
11:34
down, but then you do go for it on
11:36
fourth down when you're punting. And I
11:39
mean, I can nitpick a couple of things here. I
11:41
think they lost the game and each chance of winning,
11:43
I should say with the fake punt, even
11:46
though they were up what it was a twenty
11:48
four to fourteen And I said
11:50
at the time, I think they just lost
11:53
the game. Like I thought, it was that big
11:55
of a momentum change. And
12:00
I just don't have trust with
12:03
Bill O'Brien there in a big moment. I don't
12:05
And you saw that Kansas
12:07
City was better too. You know, at some
12:09
point I might double Travis Kelsey. I don't
12:12
know, and that's just me. At some point,
12:14
Okay, Tyreek Hill's not gonna beat me. Travis
12:17
Kelsey's beating me. Maybe
12:19
maybe I put two guys on him and two
12:21
guys on Tyreek Hill and then
12:23
take my chances. But
12:27
what do I know? Yeah, point, I
12:32
don't know. If Paul's Mike's working, No,
12:35
oh no, it's it's back. Yeah, it's in my
12:37
wife. I would say that that fourth down where they
12:39
didn't go for it, they were gonna go for it the Texans
12:41
and then they had to call time out. It felt
12:43
like it cooled off their
12:46
rush that they were on, and if they would have
12:48
got that fourth down, they maybe don't get a
12:50
touchdown, but you were in a few more minutes and you
12:52
keep your run going. And then when the Chiefs
12:54
got that kickoff return right after, he's like, okay, everything
12:57
just calmed down really quick. And she said,
12:59
we had three quarters to score four
13:01
touchdowns. We do that all
13:03
the time, and they were calm about it.
13:05
It felt like the Ravens weren't calm, and
13:07
it felt like Mahomes was like he was on side of the
13:09
going we got this, relaxes. You could hear him, he's
13:11
saying, relax, we got this as they're down
13:13
twenty four zero. I didn't. I didn't look at
13:16
it that way. In real time. I thought,
13:18
okay, gotta feel goal great, just keep piling
13:20
up points. But the only thing I thought is you got
13:22
to score touchdowns to be Kansas City. So I didn't
13:24
think you're up twenty four, Okay,
13:28
that's gonna come back and haunt you. It
13:30
was the fake punt where I went, oh,
13:32
no, don't you just did that? Oh
13:35
my gosh, And it felt like that momentum and
13:37
then all of a sudden, you know,
13:39
kans City was beating themselves, and
13:42
Kansas City was sort of gift wrapping or
13:44
Tennessee or Texans were gift wrapping
13:46
some points pretty right them
13:49
where you're going to go, Okay, we're gonna take those,
13:51
and they built up sort of a artificial
13:54
lead, it felt like. But I didn't. I didn't
13:56
look at that, you know, let's not go for
13:58
it on fourth and one. It was the
14:00
fake punt that I thought came back and haunted them.
14:02
What do you have, McLevin pull question? What else all
14:05
right, if you want to talk about you want
14:07
to save tonight's game, Let's talk about the
14:09
Browns for a second. If you were a hot
14:11
offensive coordinator, would you want the Brown
14:13
shop Because the rate of turnover is
14:15
now people are noting remarkable. All
14:17
right. The Browns hired Kevin
14:20
Stefanski offensive coordinator
14:22
from the Vikings, and I
14:24
guess what is going to happen is
14:28
they're going to be using a whole lot
14:30
of analytics here. I
14:35
think Josh McDaniels went in there and said, look, I'll
14:37
take this job, but you gotta let me hire my guys
14:39
and let me do it my way. And I think the Browns
14:41
go, no, no, we would rather
14:43
be involved in this and screw things up. And
14:47
it feels like that that's what they're going to do. I
14:51
don't know. Bucky Brooks,
14:54
he had this tweet. If
14:57
this is true, the Browns are really
14:59
trying to take a Baseball approach. The GM
15:01
basically used as the head coach as a
15:03
joystick to play the game
15:05
the way he wants, just like Baseball's
15:08
analytic teams approached their
15:10
games. Don't know why a head coach would
15:12
agree to this plan. I
15:16
think we thought Josh McDaniels was going to take
15:18
the job. I think what Josh did as he went
15:20
in and said, look, the only way I can
15:22
do this is if you let me do it my way,
15:25
and that owner tends to meddle too much
15:27
and probably said I don't want to
15:29
give up all of the control here, and
15:31
that's why. And maybe Kevin Stefanski
15:34
is the right guy for what they need at
15:36
the right time, but I
15:38
would I'd be nervous going into that job.
15:40
Yes, So it wasn't the problem with Freddie
15:43
Kitchens that he didn't have enough authority and
15:45
sort of have to manage all the personalities
15:47
there. So they bring in a thirty seven year old first time
15:49
coach. Is he it feels
15:51
like this personality problems with Cleveland. Is he
15:53
the guy to make all that come together. That's
15:57
another thing that surprised me because keep in
15:59
mind Stefan Diggs, while
16:01
seems to be a great kid, you know,
16:04
he became a diva in Minnesota and they had
16:06
a hard time handling that. I don't know if Kevin Stefanski
16:09
was involved in that, but as the offensive coordinator,
16:11
if you can't handle Stefon Diggs, good luck
16:13
with the wide receivers you have in Cleveland.
16:17
Plus I think that Gary
16:19
Kubiak did a great job behind
16:21
the scenes with that Vikings offense. Maybe
16:23
he'll get promoted offensive coordinator. But Kevin
16:26
Stefanski, you're bringing in another young
16:28
guy. I needed somebody who has a little
16:30
bit of a resume there. I
16:32
just need somebody
16:35
that the players are gonna go okay,
16:38
because they do take inventory on this.
16:41
Players do this where they go, what have you done?
16:44
And if you've got a guy who's at least been
16:46
there with Brady, you've
16:48
won super Bowls. Granted you didn't
16:50
do a great job as a head coach, that's ten years
16:53
ago. But to me, you
16:55
gotta go in and feel like you got a little bit
16:57
of an advantage going into that locker room. And I don't
16:59
know, I don't know if the Browns have that
17:02
situation. Yeah, mcloven, are you okay? If
17:04
it's fourth and one and the coach has to
17:06
listen to the analytics guy like he's got
17:08
an LAS guy, say here's what we're doing. Okay,
17:10
why can't you be listening to the analytics guy
17:12
before the game starts? During
17:14
the week fourth and
17:17
one, they have programs, they
17:19
have programs that say, when you're in
17:21
this situation and
17:24
you know in this part of the field, you do this
17:26
or this is what they do. That's the analytics
17:29
department. I don't want somebody going
17:31
so you got an analytics guy gonna
17:33
be in your ear for them. You to be in Baker
17:36
Mayfield here. That's how it works in baseball.
17:39
That's what they're saying that as do. But you don't
17:41
have to worry about time here in baseball.
17:44
I mean I can talk to you the entire game.
17:47
You got to get a play in, Well,
17:49
let the LAS guy call it. Well,
17:52
if that's the case, fine, but Baker Mayfield
17:54
you're not. You got to simplify his job,
17:57
yes, Tom, And there's gotta be something to
17:59
be said for Gutsch feeling on the flow of the game, which
18:01
analytics. You know, you could calculate all the numbers you
18:03
want, but sometimes every moment is different than
18:05
if you've got a big lead going. Just like we said of one
18:07
of the kicking a field goal when it's twenty one nothing. Analytics
18:09
can't speak to the emotions of the moment. Well,
18:12
how did analytics help the Texans
18:14
there? I'm sure they had analytics on a
18:16
fake punt and not going
18:18
forward on fourth and one, you know, in the red zone.
18:21
I'm guessing analytics probably played
18:23
a role. Yeah, Mike, love it well the Ravens.
18:25
Analytics say go for it on fourth and one and like
18:28
a hundred times out of one hundred. But the Titans are
18:30
this miracle fourth and one. Tu They stopped the Patriots
18:32
on fourth of one, and they stopped them. It's ridiculous.
18:34
Yeah, yeah, Paul. Are we in the new era
18:36
of debunking your own analytics
18:38
for an advantage? Because if everyone thinks,
18:41
well, they gotta go for it here because that's
18:43
what the analyts say, you go the opposite way
18:45
because you're messing with the team. Don't
18:47
expect it. Try that outside. All
18:49
right, we'll come up with a poll question best
18:52
and worst, whatever you saw that you like you didn't
18:54
like. Sean Salisbury, the former NFL quarterback
18:56
now great talk show host and Houston
18:59
He will join us. Coming up. Are they calling
19:01
for Bill O'Brien to be fired? There? Mike
19:03
Leach, Mississippi state head coach, will join
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us a little bit later on the Forrest Buckner,
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the Niners defensive lineman, and David
19:09
Pollock of the Mothership. He's there
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at the National title game. We or preview for you
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One of the great drummers in history,
20:28
not just rock and roll, Neil
20:31
Piert Piert Allie
20:34
makes sure that I get that pronunciation
20:36
right spelled part,
20:38
but it's Piert of Rush,
20:41
one of the great great and signature drummers
20:43
of all time. You probably put him
20:46
in there. John Bonham, I think, comes
20:48
to mind, and Neil certainly holds his own
20:50
with John Bonham led Zeppelin,
20:52
drummer that passed away over the weekend.
20:55
Yeah, I felt bad for you, Paulie. I know that you that's
20:58
your favorite band, and you know when like
21:00
you sent it out that he had passed away, and I
21:02
thought, gosh, And I watched that documentary
21:05
on Rush and the fortieth anniversary.
21:08
Yeah, and he he was always
21:10
different. Um and didn't
21:12
he walk away from the band for a little while? Yeah,
21:15
NEI appearance he in a ninety seven
21:17
ninety eight He had a daughter passed away and his
21:19
common law wife passed away, and he
21:21
took about five years off and wrote his motorcycle.
21:24
I don't think a lot of people know that he wrote ninety
21:26
percent or nine percent the lyrics for the band.
21:28
I didn't see the drummer doesn't um
21:30
Yeah. I was taking a nap on Friday and
21:33
I woke up and my phone was buzzing a lot,
21:35
and I saw it. And yet sometimes when you look at something
21:37
and you're not clear, Michael that that doesn't make
21:39
sense. Yeah, because I didn't. I don't think most people
21:42
I don't. I didn't know he was ill. He
21:44
had had arthritis for years and that's one of the reasons
21:46
to retire. We had Getty Leon six years ago. He said,
21:48
you know, Neil has arthritis, and that's a big deal.
21:51
But I don't think in a new head brain cancer um
21:54
age seven seven three D P show email ANDRESSDP
21:56
of Dan Patrick dot com Twitterhead of a DP
21:58
show. Sean Soulsbury, who is the morning
22:01
drive host in Houston Sports Talk
22:03
seven ninety four NFL quarterback will join
22:05
us, coming up on the Texans
22:07
blowing at twenty four to nothing lead. By
22:10
the way, the NFC Championship Game will
22:12
be played between two franchises who have
22:14
won a combined nine Super Bowls.
22:17
Nine Ers have five, Packers have four.
22:19
The AFC Championship game will be
22:22
played between two teams who have combined to win
22:24
one, the Chiefs with one
22:27
and the Titans with zero.
22:30
Tennessee the artist formerly known as the
22:32
Houston Oilers, and Tennessee
22:34
is in the national title Game. I
22:37
kept thinking, as much as I hate the NFC South,
22:41
our AFC South, if you were gonna have the Texans
22:43
and the Titans playing for the right to go to
22:45
the Super Bowl, my mind
22:47
would have exploded. Yeah, McLevin, Yeah, Twitter
22:50
and everybody, and we had a good time that they're
22:52
gonna flex out of it, or they
22:54
put out Thursday night or maybe Sunday morning
22:56
and yeah,
22:59
we're gonna let out of the AFC title
23:01
game if it is the Titans against the Texans.
23:05
Speaking of the Texans, Sean Salisbury's
23:07
there and well, Sean,
23:10
if you were going to sum up that game for somebody who didn't
23:12
see the Chiefs beating the Texans,
23:14
how would you describe it? Have you
23:17
seen Scream seven with troll terror
23:19
read and ground hot day the
23:22
Texans approach, Dan, I
23:24
would sum it up as this. If you've watched the
23:26
Texans play all year long, it's
23:28
exactly who they are. They
23:30
play a quarter, maybe a quarter and a half.
23:33
They can't handle success. They'll
23:35
handle adversity pretty decent, but they
23:37
can't handle success, and that's been a problem. This
23:39
has been their m some spectacular, some
23:43
decent, and a whole bunch of ugly,
23:46
and they just don't handle success very well. In Bill
23:48
O'Brien, there's a choke
23:50
factor that goes into players at times. And then
23:52
there's that factor Dan, You know those guys, I'm
23:54
the type of guy who throw it to the other team in the playoffs.
23:57
You get the Mahomes or the Rodgers
23:59
or the Wilsons who they just kind of raised
24:01
their game. The Houston
24:03
Texans and Bill O'Brien coaching staff's choked
24:05
too. It's not just players. They got to do a
24:07
lot of self evaluation. This was a
24:09
bad loss. The problem is a lot of mental airs
24:12
and aggressiveness is one thing, stupidity
24:14
is another. And the Houston Texans approach
24:16
from for second quarter on with a lot of stupidity
24:19
and a lot of unsound football. If you own
24:21
that team, what would you do today? I
24:23
would evaluate the
24:26
coaching position as hard
24:28
as I did evaluating whether I should buy the franchise
24:30
or not. And you think about players,
24:33
Dan I've been in. We all are what are the coaches doing
24:35
this week? Once this is over all, the coaches are
24:37
evaluating each player on their team hard. Is
24:40
this guy worth another contract? Can he help
24:42
our team going forward? Should we cut him?
24:44
Who's checking the coaching staff?
24:46
Well, Eric b Enemy would have had a call by me
24:48
at about in the middle of the third quarter
24:51
from the owner's box. I would have called him and said,
24:53
dude, can you get out a flight from your sideline
24:55
right now? Do you've got a text message? I'd
24:57
have brought him in. Listen, build a good coach,
25:00
a heck of a guy. But Dan this, you know, we talk
25:02
about ceilings who can break through? We
25:04
look, let's think about some of the great coaches. Ron Rivera
25:06
did a great job in Carolina. But the speech
25:08
gets old, and Ron will do great in Washington. Mike
25:11
McCarthy, great job in Green Bay. Time
25:13
to move on, Bill cow or Hall of Famer in
25:15
Pittsburgh. Sometimes the speech gets old and
25:17
then guess what they go on to other success or
25:19
other coaching and they'll be successful. It's
25:22
six years, I know, it's four division championships.
25:24
Well, what are you willing to settle for? You want to settle
25:26
for just getting there? Is that good enough?
25:28
Is that what you want? Or do you want to be the team that you
25:31
know cuts your heart out and feeds it to you. I
25:33
would evaluate the position. I like Bill O'Brien.
25:35
He's good, but his head's hit the ceiling and
25:37
needed can't break through. This team in order
25:39
to get the February needs a February
25:41
coach. Unfortunately they got a January coach.
25:46
What stood out with the Chiefs, there's a couple
25:48
of things. First of all, it didn't bother
25:50
me that the Texans went for the field
25:52
goal to go up twenty four nothing, because there's
25:54
no guarantee you score a touchdown there. But you
25:56
know, all right, if you want to be more aggressive,
25:58
I know you got to score touchdown to be Kansas City,
26:01
but you're up twenty four to nothing. I
26:04
didn't know the defense was going to be just
26:06
a rumor for the Texans. And then the other
26:08
thing with the fake punt. If you're not going
26:10
to be aggressive in the red zone and then
26:13
don't be aggressive when it comes for a fake punt,
26:16
that's what I didn't understand there. It didn't fit
26:19
like the Ravens always go for it on fourth and one.
26:21
We're not surprised at any of that. You know,
26:23
you're conservative at one end and
26:25
then you know it's a catastrophe at
26:27
the other. I just didn't understand that dichotomy.
26:30
Yeah, Dan, think about it. I'm
26:32
not the quarterback for the Chiefs. Mahomes Is. You got
26:34
to give him the short field. And Bill said,
26:36
well, we thought it was going to take fifty
26:38
points. Well then you shouldn't have kicked the
26:40
field. And I'm with you. I was actually watching.
26:43
I said, kick it. Take these points. Dan. You
26:45
know, look how tough points are to come by in the
26:47
playoffs. Hell, it's tough enough during
26:49
the regular season. You think twenty four, if I
26:51
get to thirty, man, I should be in good
26:53
shape in the fifty one. But I agree
26:55
with you. And then aggressiveness is one
26:58
thing. Being you know this sound
27:00
football's another. So you do it.
27:02
But they didn't even put a body on sores.
27:04
And it's almost like, if we're going to be aggressive, backed
27:07
up, punt the ball, make them go ninety
27:09
yards, because now it's twenty four or fourteen in the momentums
27:11
definitely switched. But at least if you're
27:13
going to be aggressive, be aggressively
27:15
sound, Dan, that'd be like me at the twenty
27:17
yard line and we want to It's fourth and one
27:20
and we're down five, and
27:22
they got a strong safety blitz on on
27:24
our right side of our offense, and we're
27:27
running a single back toss sweep into it,
27:29
and the best strong safety in the league's Polo Malo's
27:31
coming up to get you in the backfield. That's that's maybe
27:33
aggressive, but it's not sound football.
27:36
It's just it was almost and you're
27:38
exactly right. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth.
27:40
We want to be aggressive, but we're kicking a field
27:42
goal yet we're backed up. That's been the
27:44
problem with them, Dan, It's just there's
27:47
no rhyme or reason. And their identity should be number
27:49
four. You tell you know what their identity is,
27:51
the inconsistent, the consistent, inconsistency.
27:53
It's a hard watch and people
27:56
here are going crazy over it, naturally and
27:58
should. But you when you jump out to nothing,
28:00
if you can't handle that success, then
28:03
changes need to be made and you've got to look long and
28:05
hard, and if you're going to keep him there, the leash
28:07
has to be about one chain link. We're talking
28:09
to Sean Salisbury Sports Talk seven
28:11
ninety in Houston Morning Drive post from NFL
28:14
Quarterback. I also noticed
28:16
that one other thing, and that was Patrick
28:19
mahomes demeanor through all of this. I
28:21
never saw him get angry. It
28:23
felt like he was, you know, telling
28:25
his team, you know, we got this like stay in the moment
28:28
here, we'd get wrapped, some points to them,
28:30
some opportunities. We got three
28:32
quarters to go. And when after
28:34
that fake punt, I said, the
28:37
Texans just lost this game. And
28:39
I think it was twenty four or fourteen, just that
28:42
momentum, and you know, and here's another thing. Travis
28:44
Kelsey's a wonderful player. I
28:48
still think maybe if you look at that tape,
28:51
Bill O'Brien might go, you know, maybe we should have
28:53
put two guys on Travis Kelsey. As great
28:55
as Tyreek Hill is, you want to put two guys on
28:57
him. Travis Kelsey was killing you, killing
29:00
and Tony Romo saying, as long as they
29:02
have single coverage on Travis Kelsey,
29:05
they will not win this game. And that's
29:07
what baffled me. Yes, and it's
29:09
it's it's it's it's maddening, is what it is. And
29:13
first of all, about Mahomes. You're
29:15
correct because of it, not only his demeanor, and he didn't
29:17
get to see the ball much early. You know, special
29:20
teams gaff a drop ball. He
29:22
knew that when they put the ball in his hand. That's what his poise
29:25
is at a different level. And like the great
29:27
ones that we know, the bradies and the breezes,
29:29
when the temperature of the game goes up, his blood
29:31
pressure goes down. Thus mere mortals
29:33
choke and he doesn't, which is why if you
29:35
pull thirty two gms and head coaches,
29:38
they would start their franchise with the guy in Kansas
29:40
City. That's number one. You were never out of it, and I
29:42
never felt comfortable for the for the Texas
29:44
on the other side of it, you were exactly. It was twenty four to seven
29:47
when they faked the punt, Mahomes took him down. It got
29:49
to twenty four to fourteen. I
29:51
went into I said three things on Friday on my
29:53
show Dan I said, if they can't tackle
29:55
in space, meaning the Texans are in trouble. Travis
29:58
Kelsey is the mate, is the biggest a smatch
30:00
on the field, and they did nothing about it and
30:02
didn't adjust. He was destroying them,
30:04
and you didn't adjust, say well, let's try this. That's
30:07
what good coaches do. And then finally
30:09
I said, at some point time, special teams will
30:11
be the difference in the game. Well, I didn't know that eight special
30:13
teams plays, we're going to be in it. But youth look
30:15
at that and it's it's never one play, but it's
30:17
a series of about six to eight plays, and
30:19
bingo. The Chiefs capitalized more, especially
30:22
as the game went on. But when your leader
30:24
knows that you're in it and it's not fake leadership,
30:27
you know you got a chance. Rotson Special Dan,
30:29
but he had to fight the updal battle. The difference
30:32
is there's a poise about throwing the ball away
30:34
and not trying to hit a home run every time that
30:36
it has Mahomes just one step up
30:39
from the rest of them. From most of the dudes in this
30:41
league. We're pretty lucky with Lamar and Deshaun
30:43
and Pat Mahomes, But Mahomes
30:45
will be the leader in the clubhouse, and he gives you a legitimate
30:47
chance to win. In February, I mentioned about a
30:49
half hour ago that there are certain players that
30:51
you always attached their age to them,
30:53
like Tom Brady, his official name is
30:55
Tom Brady who's forty two, and Drew Bradys
30:58
who's forty, and Philip Rivers and Ben
31:00
Roethlisberger. Aaron Rodgers is getting
31:03
there, you know, the thirty six year old Aaron
31:05
Rodgers. There's nothing thirty six about
31:07
him. I truly marveled
31:09
when Nick game, when he needed a couple
31:11
of big plays on third down, he delivered
31:14
big time. And I
31:17
think we somehow he's not underrated,
31:19
but maybe under the radar this season.
31:22
Yeah. Well, and because he hasn't had those gaudy
31:24
stats, right, we're so used to now,
31:27
Man, you got to beat in Lamar and run for a thousand
31:29
and throw for thirty five or forty touchnes or pat
31:31
and throw for fifty touchdowns. And we've
31:33
seen gaudy from Aaron so many
31:36
times. But when it's on the line and you're
31:38
exactly right, and I do believe, well, maybe
31:40
I don't know if it's underappreciated, underrated, but
31:42
is there a more confident guy in his ability in his
31:44
right arm than anybody in the league, I'm honestly,
31:47
And the ball comes out so quickly and you're exactly
31:49
right, matter of fact, when you just mentioned his age. I was
31:51
going, how old is he again? I know how old Rivers
31:54
and Brady and Breeze are, and you're
31:56
right. But I can tell you this, you may be attaching
31:59
Super Bowl champion again because he's
32:01
finally got a guy in the backfield
32:03
and a team that's committed to run in the
32:05
football. He doesn't have to throw forty
32:07
five times to beat you. But I promise you this.
32:10
I don't know what's going to happen against San Francisco,
32:12
but if he does have to throw forty five times,
32:15
he can. He's special and one of the
32:17
greats of all time, regardless
32:19
of the number of Super Bowls he has. I'll take him any
32:21
day of the week when there's a game on the line,
32:23
and the two quarterbacks in that game he saw Russ
32:26
put him in a position to win. But Aaron last
32:29
drive does everything necessary so
32:31
you don't let the other dude get the ball in his hands. Yeah.
32:33
I really thought that Russell
32:36
was going to lead them down and they really take the
32:38
lead, and then he was gonna lead too much time on the clock
32:40
for Aaron Rodgers to come back. But
32:42
also you know that's San Francisco performance
32:45
sort of got lost because there
32:47
was never really a game, and then
32:50
you know, you probably went about your day because if you
32:52
looked and he said Minnesota's not coming
32:54
back, that's a that's
32:56
a great front there. And if
32:58
you can put pressure on Roger and not have
33:00
to blitz anybody. I
33:03
was really really impressed with or
33:05
with the Niners defense, right Dan,
33:08
think about then as we go to the Final
33:10
four, and think about the final four, about
33:12
game plans and what you stick and do, what you do
33:14
with slide adjustments. The forty nine ers are physical.
33:17
What is their mo We're gonna formation you, We're
33:19
gonna personnel group, We're gonna run the football down your throat,
33:21
and we're gonna mal you on defense and go in Dalvin
33:24
Cook wasn't gonna beat us to nine
33:26
ten carries, Kirk Cousins, We're gonna have to beat him.
33:28
Didn't happen. Look at the Tennessee Baltimore game,
33:30
Baltimore completely out of their game plan, throwing
33:32
fifty plus times, and what did Tennessee
33:34
do. Vrabel looks at the coordinators, is you better
33:36
hand it to that outside linebacker that dresses in
33:38
a phone booth and we're gonna run down their throat
33:40
and we're gonna stick with it to the tune of one hundred
33:43
and ninety plus yards or whatever it was. They're out
33:45
of there. The Texans throw fifty plus times.
33:47
Kansas City does what they do the forty
33:49
nine ers as far as the complete team
33:51
dan where you don't have to rely on the quarterback to carry
33:53
it, but he can in moments, they're
33:56
about as complete a team as there is. And look at
33:58
all this old school football hunt
34:00
you in the mouth where you out, force
34:03
you to throw it more and to take your game
34:05
plan out. That's why the final four is great. They
34:07
all have got there kind of the old fashioned
34:09
way. They've all run it, they've all played defense.
34:11
In the forty nine ers probably when it
34:13
comes to all around, do it better than
34:16
anybody in the league right now because the quarterback
34:18
is more than capable of throwing it and they're so physical.
34:20
We're back to old Steelers, old forty
34:23
nine ers, old Cowboys, that type of
34:25
old Ravens football here in two and
34:27
twenty. Have you heard about my Titans?
34:30
I know that they're pretty good. Are they your Titans?
34:33
What? What else do I need to know about them? They've
34:35
been my team for years. There
34:37
you're so that's been your favorite Vrabel's
34:39
good. Yeah, and you want to try you see at the end
34:42
of the game, when when when Derrick Henry
34:44
gets in the secondary guy who's like, you know what, you
34:47
know what? I don't think so not today, man, I don't
34:49
want to he punishes people. So they So they've
34:52
been your favorite team for years truly?
34:54
Well months, Oh
34:57
okay, so you're trying to tell me they've saved
34:59
the seat on the on the band
35:01
blaggon for you. So he decided to jump on
35:03
in middle Steed coach, But
35:07
no, I bet mclove and I took the Titans and gave
35:09
him the Ravens and mcloven has to
35:11
dressed as a Titan U coming night.
35:14
Yeah, now can they dan? You know who? It
35:16
reminds me of remember when when Bob Greasy
35:18
and Zonka kick and Mercury
35:21
Morris, when look at Greasy and those two
35:23
super Bowls. Look at his number of passing
35:25
attempts that he threw to win those two
35:27
super Bowls. They're kind of doing it that way, dude.
35:29
We're not going to throw it much more than fifteen times, and when you
35:31
do, just be efficient and we're gonna third
35:33
and eight. We can still a third and eight. Our
35:35
best option is turned around and handed that thick due
35:37
in the backfield. Yeah, they got a chance, Dan, because
35:40
they Rabel's not going to deviate. He'll make adjustments.
35:42
He's not gonna dvate. The teams that are going to be playing
35:44
in February will be the ones that control of the line of scrimma.
35:46
Sounds so cliche and cheap, but it's
35:48
the truth, and it's still football, and it won't
35:51
change fifty more years from now. You've got to be physical,
35:53
and all four of these teams left. Cannock you the mouth.
35:55
Thank you, Sean. Good to talk to you, buddy. Nice
35:58
to talk to you. I appreciate you having me on half build them. But
36:00
congratulations on the Hall of Fame over
36:02
Duing Weller and my man. I appreciate it. I'm glad
36:04
for it. Thank you, Sean. That's Sean Salisbury,
36:07
Sports Talk seven ninety Houston morning Drive
36:09
host in former NFL quarterback.
36:11
Yeah, there were some running games. I know McClellan
36:14
doesn't place a whole lot of credibility
36:16
and having a great running back, but what about
36:19
a great running attack mclove right. Yeah,
36:21
Well, I think four of the top seven
36:23
rush tries this weekend were quarterbacks. I mean,
36:26
the running quarterback is the thing now. Mahomes
36:28
Rand like, yeah yeah,
36:31
and then I'll keep this up. I
36:33
think they can with the new rules. It's
36:37
being smart when you run, that's
36:39
all. Lamar Jackson goes in there and
36:41
he's he's a running back. Yeah,
36:43
seton, But don't you just keep looking at Derek Henry
36:45
and being like, does he have another game in him?
36:48
How long is he keeping this run going. I
36:50
don't know if he's hurt, but I know that the guys
36:52
that are trying to tackle him are hurt or
36:54
their feelings are hurt. But there was a moment in
36:56
that game where it felt like the Ravens
36:59
and I don't call anybody out, but it felt
37:01
like there was a player or
37:03
players who said, oh god,
37:06
it's gonna hurt. Yeah,
37:08
you know. The offseason is like, uh, you
37:10
know, about an hour away? Why
37:13
bother here? Yeah? Boy?
37:15
I was looking some Derek Henry highlights from high school.
37:17
He's the biggest guy in the field. He's bigger, stronger, and
37:19
faster, And all they did was run the ball in that pass
37:22
and it's still going on ten years
37:24
later. Remember when he came into the man Cave
37:26
after he won the high Span, I
37:28
went, good, God, he's a running back. He carried
37:31
the ball thirty times. No one else who plays
37:33
the running back position on their team carried the ball.
37:35
No other running back touched the ball that game. Yeah, why
37:38
did the Ravens totally abandon their
37:40
running backs after a season
37:42
long of wild success running the ball? And they just
37:44
said it, now we're going to drop back every player. It
37:46
felt like there was panic there for some
37:48
reason. It really did. And
37:51
you know, unlike Seattle, because
37:53
Seattle came out in the second half and ran the
37:55
football. Because you
37:58
know, I know Kansas City does run the football
38:00
that much, and they can demoralize you
38:02
with their wide open offense, but there is
38:05
nothing more demoralizing than just
38:07
systematically taking you apart by
38:09
running the football. Yeah, for Tea and
38:11
not only that, when you know it's coming and you look
38:13
at all you see all these stats of what he's done these past
38:16
several weeks, so you know that's basically their
38:18
offense, and you still can't stop them. Knowing it's
38:20
all gonna be Derek Henry Well, I knew he was going
38:22
to throw to Travis Kelsey and they had
38:24
to know he was throwing to Travis Kelsey and they
38:26
still couldn't stop it. But once
38:28
again, two guys on Kelsey probably
38:31
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Oh my God, Play
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of the Day hu left by God the
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play of the day. Check
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this out to day. All the side of the right of the Ducie
39:46
and the God Paul gemotion right and the left roll
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into his left. They're gonna throw the duchy and
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don't quick off interceptify
39:53
day football. It's all over
39:56
throw second Prof. Shane
39:58
Badrutt the there
40:00
eight national chaps, yesh
40:05
all eight titles have come in the last nine
40:07
seasons. Is it time for North
40:10
Dakota State to be upgraded?
40:13
Do we put them in the Big twelve? Like? Where do we
40:16
put North Dakota State promotion to the Big
40:18
twelve? Or do you if you're in North Dakota
40:20
State, do you want to stay there and
40:22
continue to dominate there or would
40:25
you rather go up where there's no guarantee that
40:27
you're gonna You might be playing for conference
40:29
titles, but probably not a national
40:31
title anytime soon. Yeah, North Dakota State,
40:34
they usually play like Kansas State or a big
40:36
time opponent every year and if they can
40:38
knock them off, they get some good pub. But if they went
40:40
to the Big twelve and finished seven
40:42
and five. Is that better than just rolling
40:45
the fcs? I
40:48
don't know what I mean. They're they're
40:50
the game in town. You're playing for a national
40:52
championship. By the way, Bison
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Make it LegalZoom dot com. But
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that's pretty impressive. They've won thirty seven
41:16
games in a row, eight
41:18
titles in the last nine years. They beat
41:21
James Madison, who I think was the only
41:23
team in that stretch that won a national
41:25
title. Yes, the quarterback for an Axtricata
41:28
State, Trey Lance. He didn't throw an interception
41:30
this year. Yeah, not in the title game or the playoffs,
41:32
the entire season. Twenty eight touchdowns,
41:34
No picks for Trey Lance. He's a freshman.
41:38
But they they've had like Easton Stick,
41:40
Carson Wentz, Sir, and now Trey
41:43
Lance is the Highlands is the like
41:46
the clumsy quarterback to one double A gotta
41:49
wait two years from going to be drafted out of them. He's the
41:51
Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, okay, yes, McLean.
41:54
Now if they go to the Big Ten, are they good at losing ball
41:56
games? Because that's isn't that a requirement? Oh?
41:59
Yeah he went there? What
42:02
do you have You been sitting on that one for a
42:04
while. Yeah. There is a lot of twitter jokes this
42:06
season about Big Ten struggling in bowl games.
42:09
So is there You're not going to the Big twelve.
42:11
That's the old Southwest Conference. They're going to the Big
42:13
Ten, aren't they? North
42:15
North Dakota State? Right, you got
42:17
in the brownskid there? You know, all seriousness.
42:20
If you if you're the Big Ten and you could drop Rutgers
42:22
and add North Dakota State, I would do that a second. A
42:24
decent football program, a great fan, I'm
42:27
dead serious. A relegation game, Rutgers
42:30
versus North Dakota. Now
42:34
we're on to something. I'll take the Bison and give
42:36
you nine and a half easy? Could
42:38
we could we see if Vegas would come up
42:40
with a line of Rutgers
42:42
this past season versus North Dakota State. We
42:44
should put that game, neutral neutral site.
42:48
Well, Rutgers is a neutral site. Wow, well
42:51
yes, mclovin. I'll tell you where that game would be. Saturday
42:54
twelve, Newton, Indiana
42:59
and Maryland up in the mix, and I sat,
43:04
and who doesn't like a nooner? Brandon and
43:06
Kansas joints? Hi, Brandon got
43:12
the best and worst. Worst would be the
43:14
first quarter of the Chiefs game, and
43:16
the best would be the second quarter on all
43:19
right, and
43:21
that all the
43:24
Texans playing in fear on the fake punt fourth
43:27
and fourth new right, then it was over. Yeah,
43:29
that was Mike feeling. Thanks for the phone
43:31
called, Brandon. And even though what
43:34
twenty four to it just felt like they
43:37
had a lot of energy going there, a
43:39
lot of good things happening, and you were keeping
43:41
Patrick Mahomes off the field, but
43:44
Kansas City was beating themselves. And
43:46
I think that's where Mahomes was saying, Hey, just relax,
43:49
let us get into our rhythm. And that's
43:52
as impressive offensively as I've
43:54
seen in the postseason postseason history. You
43:57
know you're peeling off fifty one point
44:00
one to seven. Yeah, mclu There
44:02
was a fourth town late in the Seahawks Packers
44:05
where the Shaws were
44:07
three twenty two left? Should they have not punted
44:09
and risk giving it back? Aaron Rodgers wanted third
44:11
and eleven, fourth and eleven four eleven,
44:14
Yeah, three twenty two left? Yeah soon
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