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1:23

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1:32

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1:39

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Yes, McLevin was supposed to dress as

2:26

a Titan today, having

2:29

lost that bet to me, he had

2:31

the Ravens, I had the Titans, and where

2:33

is said Titan outfit? So

2:36

me and the production team did a

2:38

lot of work on Sunday and we

2:40

need till Friday to perfect the costume,

2:43

which is very tightan like, so

2:46

I figured Friday, I'm asking for a stay

2:49

of execution. It's tightened

2:51

like now, it's not a Titan uniform, a

2:53

Tennessee Titan uniform. No, no, it's I'm not less

2:55

Derik Henry. It's a more clash

2:58

of the tight clash of the Titans.

3:00

Okay, that'll be Friday, Yeah,

3:03

Friday leading into their big game

3:05

in the championship games. All right, at

3:08

what point did you realize you were in trouble with this bet?

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in twenty nineteen, and this

3:57

weekend we were reminded why because

3:59

this is the best drama

4:01

on TV now. It started with the

4:04

Niners and Vikings, and there wasn't any drama

4:06

there. But I think what happens is

4:08

because the Niners were so great,

4:10

we kind of moved on from that. We were looking for

4:13

some excitement, so then you focused

4:15

in on what happened with the Titans and the Ravens.

4:17

You know, the Packers and the Seahawks was really

4:19

interesting. And of course the Chiefs and the

4:22

Texans don't lose,

4:24

you know, don't lose sight of what the Niners did. The

4:27

Niners defensively, did

4:30

you know, as something as impressive as what

4:32

the Chiefs did offensively? That Niner

4:35

team shut down the Vikings. I know

4:37

we can go back and say, well, Kirk Cousins

4:39

or you know, predictable play calling, but

4:42

what they did and the president they applied

4:45

that was a very, very impressive. It reminded

4:47

me of the Bears against the

4:49

Patriots in the Super Bowl back

4:51

in nineteen eighty five. I think

4:53

the Patriots that day had seven carries

4:56

for seven yards, got sacked

4:58

seven times. I think that Niner

5:01

defense is quick and they are

5:03

on you right away. We'll talk to one of

5:05

their great defensive lineman, DeForrest

5:07

Buckner. He'll join us a little bit later on. But

5:10

you know, the chaos broke out when the number

5:12

six Titans shocked the Ravens,

5:15

the first time a number six seed beat a number

5:17

one seed since twenty ten. That

5:19

was I think back when the Packers did

5:22

that. Went to the Super Bowl on Sunday,

5:24

the Texans were up twenty four zip and

5:26

then Kansas City went on a fifty one

5:28

to seven run. The

5:31

nightcap last night, Aaron Rodgers, Russell

5:33

Wilson Jr. The third, and the Packers held

5:35

on to win a close one. So that sets

5:37

up Packers Niners again.

5:40

Part two. Part one didn't go well

5:42

for Green Bay the Titans against the

5:44

Chiefs, So good luck picking

5:46

winners here. And I know that you probably

5:48

want to write off the Titans. They're

5:51

seven point underdogs. The Packers

5:53

they're seven point underdogs as well.

5:55

It feels like the Titans should be a

5:57

little bit more of an underdog. But man,

5:59

give credit to Mike Rabel that running

6:01

attack. But to me, it was their defense.

6:04

I thought the defense got in Lamar

6:06

Jackson's face early. I thought I thought

6:08

Baltimore abandoned the run a little too soon.

6:11

There. I don't need you to be cute,

6:14

you don't need to go well, they're playing the runs,

6:16

so we're going to pass. If you feel

6:18

that confident about and you're running attack, then

6:20

go get them, because there's nothing more demoralizing

6:23

than running the football down somebody's throat.

6:26

But Tennessee did exactly

6:28

that. Give them credit. They played

6:31

a perfect game. Pretty much a perfect

6:33

game, and that's what you needed. But you know what,

6:35

they blew out Baltimore. I saw

6:37

this tweet from Adam Schefter because if

6:40

you're a Baltimore fan, I mean, this hurts.

6:42

This hurts bad because you

6:45

were the odds on favorite certainly to go to

6:47

the Super Bowl. But as Chefti points

6:49

out, the Ravens are in great shape

6:51

for next season. Every Ravens offensive

6:54

starters under contract for next season. They're

6:56

forty five million dollars under the salary

6:58

cap, and the Ravens current your schedule

7:00

to have nine draft picks. I

7:02

also don't want to hear this, and I've

7:04

said this many times during the season.

7:07

We do we have a referendum where we feel

7:09

like one game either somebody's

7:12

really good or somebody's really bad. Lamar

7:14

Jackson is really good. He's great.

7:18

You know. The game plan is if

7:20

you crowd the middle of the field and you make

7:22

him throw out, you know, to the side, you

7:25

know, then that's what that's what you

7:27

want there. That would be his weakness.

7:30

But he's still a great player.

7:33

He's going to be the MVP, and

7:35

he'll grow from this. He grew from last

7:37

year's loss. Look at what he did. He

7:40

led the NFL and touchdown passes,

7:42

he rushed for a thousand yards, and

7:45

he'll be as good, if not better, next year

7:48

because everybody had their chance to try to figure

7:50

out how to slow him down. Give Mike

7:53

Rabel and the Titans all the credit. They

7:55

did a wonderful job. And then once you

7:57

get up by fourteen to nothing, because

8:00

I was worried if they if they went down seven

8:03

or fourteen or even ten points, then

8:05

the Titans were going to be in trouble. But

8:08

it was the opposite, and Baltimore was

8:10

the one in trouble last night with Green

8:12

Bay and Seattle. And

8:15

you know, I've been doing this such a long

8:18

time that you see the start of somebody's

8:20

career in the end of somebody's career. And

8:22

I did find it interesting how we were viewing

8:25

a thirty six year old Aaron Rodgers. There's

8:27

nothing thirty six about him.

8:29

I mean it truly isn't you

8:31

know. Philip Rivers started to look his age,

8:34

Tom Brady started to look his age, Drew

8:36

Brees starting to look his age. Ben

8:38

Roethlisberger. Aaron Rodgers

8:41

doesn't play, doesn't look, doesn't feel

8:43

like he's thirty six. Now he may feel

8:46

like he's forty six after he plays against

8:48

San Francisco this next weekend. But what

8:51

I saw last night, I never looked

8:53

at him an attached an age,

8:55

because there's a certain point when

8:58

quarterbacks get to thirty five

9:00

or thirty six that their age has always

9:02

mentioned with their name. Tom

9:05

Brady forty two, like

9:07

Philip Rivers thirty eight. You know, Drew

9:09

Brees, it's always starts

9:12

to tag along with you and Aaron

9:14

Rodgers at thirty six. At

9:16

no point last night that I think that he was

9:18

a thirty six year old quarterback. Green

9:21

Bay has a surprisingly good

9:23

defense under the radar defense,

9:26

and you got Davante Adams and a little

9:28

bit of a running game there. San Francisco

9:30

at least knows what is not successful

9:33

against San Francisco. But can you

9:35

change that game plan up because that pass rush

9:37

is really, really impressive. All

9:41

right, Nicoleabne, you got a pull question for me. Also, I'll

9:43

give you my national title pick coming

9:45

up in a little bit. Congratulations

9:48

to Bill Cower and Jimmy Johnson. They were surprised

9:50

over the weekend to be named to the Pro Football

9:53

Hall of Fame. I felt i felt

9:55

bad for Cower because I don't think Bill, even

9:58

though he loves the honor, I don't he likes

10:00

to be in surprised like that. And

10:02

it was because I think he was saying, you

10:05

know something along the lines of I

10:08

hope you're not doing this to me, and

10:10

he realized that they were doing that to him. And

10:13

then you know, one of his daughters. He

10:15

had lost his wife who passed away, and

10:17

his new wife was there on the

10:19

set with them on CBS and it

10:22

was a great moment. And then Jimmy Johnson as well.

10:24

It's nice to see people get

10:26

out of what their TV personality

10:29

is, where you see who they really are,

10:31

and you got to see that with Jimmy Johnson

10:33

and certainly Bill Cower. Yes mcvin, Okay,

10:36

for what you were saying, which divisional round loser will

10:38

make the super Bowl first? So

10:41

who has like the best chance of taken the next up? The

10:43

Vikings, Ravens, Texans

10:45

or Seahawks. I'm

10:47

gonna go Ravens. Yeah,

10:50

the Texans, Okay,

10:53

I rail on them. I'm not

10:55

a big fan of their head coach, and

10:59

I don't want somebody to get fired. But

11:01

if you said to me that Romeo Cornell

11:03

got fired today as their defensive coordinator.

11:05

I would go, Okay, I understand it. Or

11:07

Bill O'Brien got fired, even though I think he's

11:10

got three years left on his deal, I would

11:12

understand it. You know, they might be

11:14

the newer version of the San Diego La

11:16

Chargers where you go, but they got a lot of

11:18

talent, but they're not

11:20

able to produce love. DeShawn wants it. Love

11:23

DeShawn wants it, but man,

11:25

there's something missing there. And maybe

11:27

they were going to lose anyway. And

11:30

we can talk about the strategy there with

11:32

Bill O'Brien that you don't go for it on fourth

11:34

down, but then you do go for it on

11:36

fourth down when you're punting. And I

11:39

mean, I can nitpick a couple of things here. I

11:41

think they lost the game and each chance of winning,

11:43

I should say with the fake punt, even

11:46

though they were up what it was a twenty

11:48

four to fourteen And I said

11:50

at the time, I think they just lost

11:53

the game. Like I thought, it was that big

11:55

of a momentum change. And

12:00

I just don't have trust with

12:03

Bill O'Brien there in a big moment. I don't

12:05

And you saw that Kansas

12:07

City was better too. You know, at some

12:09

point I might double Travis Kelsey. I don't

12:12

know, and that's just me. At some point,

12:14

Okay, Tyreek Hill's not gonna beat me. Travis

12:17

Kelsey's beating me. Maybe

12:19

maybe I put two guys on him and two

12:21

guys on Tyreek Hill and then

12:23

take my chances. But

12:27

what do I know? Yeah, point, I

12:32

don't know. If Paul's Mike's working, No,

12:35

oh no, it's it's back. Yeah, it's in my

12:37

wife. I would say that that fourth down where they

12:39

didn't go for it, they were gonna go for it the Texans

12:41

and then they had to call time out. It felt

12:43

like it cooled off their

12:46

rush that they were on, and if they would have

12:48

got that fourth down, they maybe don't get a

12:50

touchdown, but you were in a few more minutes and you

12:52

keep your run going. And then when the Chiefs

12:54

got that kickoff return right after, he's like, okay, everything

12:57

just calmed down really quick. And she said,

12:59

we had three quarters to score four

13:01

touchdowns. We do that all

13:03

the time, and they were calm about it.

13:05

It felt like the Ravens weren't calm, and

13:07

it felt like Mahomes was like he was on side of the

13:09

going we got this, relaxes. You could hear him, he's

13:11

saying, relax, we got this as they're down

13:13

twenty four zero. I didn't. I didn't look at

13:16

it that way. In real time. I thought,

13:18

okay, gotta feel goal great, just keep piling

13:20

up points. But the only thing I thought is you got

13:22

to score touchdowns to be Kansas City. So I didn't

13:24

think you're up twenty four, Okay,

13:28

that's gonna come back and haunt you. It

13:30

was the fake punt where I went, oh,

13:32

no, don't you just did that? Oh

13:35

my gosh, And it felt like that momentum and

13:37

then all of a sudden, you know,

13:39

kans City was beating themselves, and

13:42

Kansas City was sort of gift wrapping or

13:44

Tennessee or Texans were gift wrapping

13:46

some points pretty right them

13:49

where you're going to go, Okay, we're gonna take those,

13:51

and they built up sort of a artificial

13:54

lead, it felt like. But I didn't. I didn't

13:56

look at that, you know, let's not go for

13:58

it on fourth and one. It was the

14:00

fake punt that I thought came back and haunted them.

14:02

What do you have, McLevin pull question? What else all

14:05

right, if you want to talk about you want

14:07

to save tonight's game, Let's talk about the

14:09

Browns for a second. If you were a hot

14:11

offensive coordinator, would you want the Brown

14:13

shop Because the rate of turnover is

14:15

now people are noting remarkable. All

14:17

right. The Browns hired Kevin

14:20

Stefanski offensive coordinator

14:22

from the Vikings, and I

14:24

guess what is going to happen is

14:28

they're going to be using a whole lot

14:30

of analytics here. I

14:35

think Josh McDaniels went in there and said, look, I'll

14:37

take this job, but you gotta let me hire my guys

14:39

and let me do it my way. And I think the Browns

14:41

go, no, no, we would rather

14:43

be involved in this and screw things up. And

14:47

it feels like that that's what they're going to do. I

14:51

don't know. Bucky Brooks,

14:54

he had this tweet. If

14:57

this is true, the Browns are really

14:59

trying to take a Baseball approach. The GM

15:01

basically used as the head coach as a

15:03

joystick to play the game

15:05

the way he wants, just like Baseball's

15:08

analytic teams approached their

15:10

games. Don't know why a head coach would

15:12

agree to this plan. I

15:16

think we thought Josh McDaniels was going to take

15:18

the job. I think what Josh did as he went

15:20

in and said, look, the only way I can

15:22

do this is if you let me do it my way,

15:25

and that owner tends to meddle too much

15:27

and probably said I don't want to

15:29

give up all of the control here, and

15:31

that's why. And maybe Kevin Stefanski

15:34

is the right guy for what they need at

15:36

the right time, but I

15:38

would I'd be nervous going into that job.

15:40

Yes, So it wasn't the problem with Freddie

15:43

Kitchens that he didn't have enough authority and

15:45

sort of have to manage all the personalities

15:47

there. So they bring in a thirty seven year old first time

15:49

coach. Is he it feels

15:51

like this personality problems with Cleveland. Is he

15:53

the guy to make all that come together. That's

15:57

another thing that surprised me because keep in

15:59

mind Stefan Diggs, while

16:01

seems to be a great kid, you know,

16:04

he became a diva in Minnesota and they had

16:06

a hard time handling that. I don't know if Kevin Stefanski

16:09

was involved in that, but as the offensive coordinator,

16:11

if you can't handle Stefon Diggs, good luck

16:13

with the wide receivers you have in Cleveland.

16:17

Plus I think that Gary

16:19

Kubiak did a great job behind

16:21

the scenes with that Vikings offense. Maybe

16:23

he'll get promoted offensive coordinator. But Kevin

16:26

Stefanski, you're bringing in another young

16:28

guy. I needed somebody who has a little

16:30

bit of a resume there. I

16:32

just need somebody

16:35

that the players are gonna go okay,

16:38

because they do take inventory on this.

16:41

Players do this where they go, what have you done?

16:44

And if you've got a guy who's at least been

16:46

there with Brady, you've

16:48

won super Bowls. Granted you didn't

16:50

do a great job as a head coach, that's ten years

16:53

ago. But to me, you

16:55

gotta go in and feel like you got a little bit

16:57

of an advantage going into that locker room. And I don't

16:59

know, I don't know if the Browns have that

17:02

situation. Yeah, mcloven, are you okay? If

17:04

it's fourth and one and the coach has to

17:06

listen to the analytics guy like he's got

17:08

an LAS guy, say here's what we're doing. Okay,

17:10

why can't you be listening to the analytics guy

17:12

before the game starts? During

17:14

the week fourth and

17:17

one, they have programs, they

17:19

have programs that say, when you're in

17:21

this situation and

17:24

you know in this part of the field, you do this

17:26

or this is what they do. That's the analytics

17:29

department. I don't want somebody going

17:31

so you got an analytics guy gonna

17:33

be in your ear for them. You to be in Baker

17:36

Mayfield here. That's how it works in baseball.

17:39

That's what they're saying that as do. But you don't

17:41

have to worry about time here in baseball.

17:44

I mean I can talk to you the entire game.

17:47

You got to get a play in, Well,

17:49

let the LAS guy call it. Well,

17:52

if that's the case, fine, but Baker Mayfield

17:54

you're not. You got to simplify his job,

17:57

yes, Tom, And there's gotta be something to

17:59

be said for Gutsch feeling on the flow of the game, which

18:01

analytics. You know, you could calculate all the numbers you

18:03

want, but sometimes every moment is different than

18:05

if you've got a big lead going. Just like we said of one

18:07

of the kicking a field goal when it's twenty one nothing. Analytics

18:09

can't speak to the emotions of the moment. Well,

18:12

how did analytics help the Texans

18:14

there? I'm sure they had analytics on a

18:16

fake punt and not going

18:18

forward on fourth and one, you know, in the red zone.

18:21

I'm guessing analytics probably played

18:23

a role. Yeah, Mike, love it well the Ravens.

18:25

Analytics say go for it on fourth and one and like

18:28

a hundred times out of one hundred. But the Titans are

18:30

this miracle fourth and one. Tu They stopped the Patriots

18:32

on fourth of one, and they stopped them. It's ridiculous.

18:34

Yeah, yeah, Paul. Are we in the new era

18:36

of debunking your own analytics

18:38

for an advantage? Because if everyone thinks,

18:41

well, they gotta go for it here because that's

18:43

what the analyts say, you go the opposite way

18:45

because you're messing with the team. Don't

18:47

expect it. Try that outside. All

18:49

right, we'll come up with a poll question best

18:52

and worst, whatever you saw that you like you didn't

18:54

like. Sean Salisbury, the former NFL quarterback

18:56

now great talk show host and Houston

18:59

He will join us. Coming up. Are they calling

19:01

for Bill O'Brien to be fired? There? Mike

19:03

Leach, Mississippi state head coach, will join

19:05

us a little bit later on the Forrest Buckner,

19:07

the Niners defensive lineman, and David

19:09

Pollock of the Mothership. He's there

19:11

at the National title game. We or preview for you

19:14

coming up nineteen after the hour. Just

19:16

getting started here on the Dan Patrick Show. Everybody's

19:19

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20:26

One of the great drummers in history,

20:28

not just rock and roll, Neil

20:31

Piert Piert Allie

20:34

makes sure that I get that pronunciation

20:36

right spelled part,

20:38

but it's Piert of Rush,

20:41

one of the great great and signature drummers

20:43

of all time. You probably put him

20:46

in there. John Bonham, I think, comes

20:48

to mind, and Neil certainly holds his own

20:50

with John Bonham led Zeppelin,

20:52

drummer that passed away over the weekend.

20:55

Yeah, I felt bad for you, Paulie. I know that you that's

20:58

your favorite band, and you know when like

21:00

you sent it out that he had passed away, and I

21:02

thought, gosh, And I watched that documentary

21:05

on Rush and the fortieth anniversary.

21:08

Yeah, and he he was always

21:10

different. Um and didn't

21:12

he walk away from the band for a little while? Yeah,

21:15

NEI appearance he in a ninety seven

21:17

ninety eight He had a daughter passed away and his

21:19

common law wife passed away, and he

21:21

took about five years off and wrote his motorcycle.

21:24

I don't think a lot of people know that he wrote ninety

21:26

percent or nine percent the lyrics for the band.

21:28

I didn't see the drummer doesn't um

21:30

Yeah. I was taking a nap on Friday and

21:33

I woke up and my phone was buzzing a lot,

21:35

and I saw it. And yet sometimes when you look at something

21:37

and you're not clear, Michael that that doesn't make

21:39

sense. Yeah, because I didn't. I don't think most people

21:42

I don't. I didn't know he was ill. He

21:44

had had arthritis for years and that's one of the reasons

21:46

to retire. We had Getty Leon six years ago. He said,

21:48

you know, Neil has arthritis, and that's a big deal.

21:51

But I don't think in a new head brain cancer um

21:54

age seven seven three D P show email ANDRESSDP

21:56

of Dan Patrick dot com Twitterhead of a DP

21:58

show. Sean Soulsbury, who is the morning

22:01

drive host in Houston Sports Talk

22:03

seven ninety four NFL quarterback will join

22:05

us, coming up on the Texans

22:07

blowing at twenty four to nothing lead. By

22:10

the way, the NFC Championship Game will

22:12

be played between two franchises who have

22:14

won a combined nine Super Bowls.

22:17

Nine Ers have five, Packers have four.

22:19

The AFC Championship game will be

22:22

played between two teams who have combined to win

22:24

one, the Chiefs with one

22:27

and the Titans with zero.

22:30

Tennessee the artist formerly known as the

22:32

Houston Oilers, and Tennessee

22:34

is in the national title Game. I

22:37

kept thinking, as much as I hate the NFC South,

22:41

our AFC South, if you were gonna have the Texans

22:43

and the Titans playing for the right to go to

22:45

the Super Bowl, my mind

22:47

would have exploded. Yeah, McLevin, Yeah, Twitter

22:50

and everybody, and we had a good time that they're

22:52

gonna flex out of it, or they

22:54

put out Thursday night or maybe Sunday morning

22:56

and yeah,

22:59

we're gonna let out of the AFC title

23:01

game if it is the Titans against the Texans.

23:05

Speaking of the Texans, Sean Salisbury's

23:07

there and well, Sean,

23:10

if you were going to sum up that game for somebody who didn't

23:12

see the Chiefs beating the Texans,

23:14

how would you describe it? Have you

23:17

seen Scream seven with troll terror

23:19

read and ground hot day the

23:22

Texans approach, Dan, I

23:24

would sum it up as this. If you've watched the

23:26

Texans play all year long, it's

23:28

exactly who they are. They

23:30

play a quarter, maybe a quarter and a half.

23:33

They can't handle success. They'll

23:35

handle adversity pretty decent, but they

23:37

can't handle success, and that's been a problem. This

23:39

has been their m some spectacular, some

23:43

decent, and a whole bunch of ugly,

23:46

and they just don't handle success very well. In Bill

23:48

O'Brien, there's a choke

23:50

factor that goes into players at times. And then

23:52

there's that factor Dan, You know those guys, I'm

23:54

the type of guy who throw it to the other team in the playoffs.

23:57

You get the Mahomes or the Rodgers

23:59

or the Wilsons who they just kind of raised

24:01

their game. The Houston

24:03

Texans and Bill O'Brien coaching staff's choked

24:05

too. It's not just players. They got to do a

24:07

lot of self evaluation. This was a

24:09

bad loss. The problem is a lot of mental airs

24:12

and aggressiveness is one thing, stupidity

24:14

is another. And the Houston Texans approach

24:16

from for second quarter on with a lot of stupidity

24:19

and a lot of unsound football. If you own

24:21

that team, what would you do today? I

24:23

would evaluate the

24:26

coaching position as hard

24:28

as I did evaluating whether I should buy the franchise

24:30

or not. And you think about players,

24:33

Dan I've been in. We all are what are the coaches doing

24:35

this week? Once this is over all, the coaches are

24:37

evaluating each player on their team hard. Is

24:40

this guy worth another contract? Can he help

24:42

our team going forward? Should we cut him?

24:44

Who's checking the coaching staff?

24:46

Well, Eric b Enemy would have had a call by me

24:48

at about in the middle of the third quarter

24:51

from the owner's box. I would have called him and said,

24:53

dude, can you get out a flight from your sideline

24:55

right now? Do you've got a text message? I'd

24:57

have brought him in. Listen, build a good coach,

25:00

a heck of a guy. But Dan this, you know, we talk

25:02

about ceilings who can break through? We

25:04

look, let's think about some of the great coaches. Ron Rivera

25:06

did a great job in Carolina. But the speech

25:08

gets old, and Ron will do great in Washington. Mike

25:11

McCarthy, great job in Green Bay. Time

25:13

to move on, Bill cow or Hall of Famer in

25:15

Pittsburgh. Sometimes the speech gets old and

25:17

then guess what they go on to other success or

25:19

other coaching and they'll be successful. It's

25:22

six years, I know, it's four division championships.

25:24

Well, what are you willing to settle for? You want to settle

25:26

for just getting there? Is that good enough?

25:28

Is that what you want? Or do you want to be the team that you

25:31

know cuts your heart out and feeds it to you. I

25:33

would evaluate the position. I like Bill O'Brien.

25:35

He's good, but his head's hit the ceiling and

25:37

needed can't break through. This team in order

25:39

to get the February needs a February

25:41

coach. Unfortunately they got a January coach.

25:46

What stood out with the Chiefs, there's a couple

25:48

of things. First of all, it didn't bother

25:50

me that the Texans went for the field

25:52

goal to go up twenty four nothing, because there's

25:54

no guarantee you score a touchdown there. But you

25:56

know, all right, if you want to be more aggressive,

25:58

I know you got to score touchdown to be Kansas City,

26:01

but you're up twenty four to nothing. I

26:04

didn't know the defense was going to be just

26:06

a rumor for the Texans. And then the other

26:08

thing with the fake punt. If you're not going

26:10

to be aggressive in the red zone and then

26:13

don't be aggressive when it comes for a fake punt,

26:16

that's what I didn't understand there. It didn't fit

26:19

like the Ravens always go for it on fourth and one.

26:21

We're not surprised at any of that. You know,

26:23

you're conservative at one end and

26:25

then you know it's a catastrophe at

26:27

the other. I just didn't understand that dichotomy.

26:30

Yeah, Dan, think about it. I'm

26:32

not the quarterback for the Chiefs. Mahomes Is. You got

26:34

to give him the short field. And Bill said,

26:36

well, we thought it was going to take fifty

26:38

points. Well then you shouldn't have kicked the

26:40

field. And I'm with you. I was actually watching.

26:43

I said, kick it. Take these points. Dan. You

26:45

know, look how tough points are to come by in the

26:47

playoffs. Hell, it's tough enough during

26:49

the regular season. You think twenty four, if I

26:51

get to thirty, man, I should be in good

26:53

shape in the fifty one. But I agree

26:55

with you. And then aggressiveness is one

26:58

thing. Being you know this sound

27:00

football's another. So you do it.

27:02

But they didn't even put a body on sores.

27:04

And it's almost like, if we're going to be aggressive, backed

27:07

up, punt the ball, make them go ninety

27:09

yards, because now it's twenty four or fourteen in the momentums

27:11

definitely switched. But at least if you're

27:13

going to be aggressive, be aggressively

27:15

sound, Dan, that'd be like me at the twenty

27:17

yard line and we want to It's fourth and one

27:20

and we're down five, and

27:22

they got a strong safety blitz on on

27:24

our right side of our offense, and we're

27:27

running a single back toss sweep into it,

27:29

and the best strong safety in the league's Polo Malo's

27:31

coming up to get you in the backfield. That's that's maybe

27:33

aggressive, but it's not sound football.

27:36

It's just it was almost and you're

27:38

exactly right. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

27:40

We want to be aggressive, but we're kicking a field

27:42

goal yet we're backed up. That's been the

27:44

problem with them, Dan, It's just there's

27:47

no rhyme or reason. And their identity should be number

27:49

four. You tell you know what their identity is,

27:51

the inconsistent, the consistent, inconsistency.

27:53

It's a hard watch and people

27:56

here are going crazy over it, naturally and

27:58

should. But you when you jump out to nothing,

28:00

if you can't handle that success, then

28:03

changes need to be made and you've got to look long and

28:05

hard, and if you're going to keep him there, the leash

28:07

has to be about one chain link. We're talking

28:09

to Sean Salisbury Sports Talk seven

28:11

ninety in Houston Morning Drive post from NFL

28:14

Quarterback. I also noticed

28:16

that one other thing, and that was Patrick

28:19

mahomes demeanor through all of this. I

28:21

never saw him get angry. It

28:23

felt like he was, you know, telling

28:25

his team, you know, we got this like stay in the moment

28:28

here, we'd get wrapped, some points to them,

28:30

some opportunities. We got three

28:32

quarters to go. And when after

28:34

that fake punt, I said, the

28:37

Texans just lost this game. And

28:39

I think it was twenty four or fourteen, just that

28:42

momentum, and you know, and here's another thing. Travis

28:44

Kelsey's a wonderful player. I

28:48

still think maybe if you look at that tape,

28:51

Bill O'Brien might go, you know, maybe we should have

28:53

put two guys on Travis Kelsey. As great

28:55

as Tyreek Hill is, you want to put two guys on

28:57

him. Travis Kelsey was killing you, killing

29:00

and Tony Romo saying, as long as they

29:02

have single coverage on Travis Kelsey,

29:05

they will not win this game. And that's

29:07

what baffled me. Yes, and it's

29:09

it's it's it's it's maddening, is what it is. And

29:13

first of all, about Mahomes. You're

29:15

correct because of it, not only his demeanor, and he didn't

29:17

get to see the ball much early. You know, special

29:20

teams gaff a drop ball. He

29:22

knew that when they put the ball in his hand. That's what his poise

29:25

is at a different level. And like the great

29:27

ones that we know, the bradies and the breezes,

29:29

when the temperature of the game goes up, his blood

29:31

pressure goes down. Thus mere mortals

29:33

choke and he doesn't, which is why if you

29:35

pull thirty two gms and head coaches,

29:38

they would start their franchise with the guy in Kansas

29:40

City. That's number one. You were never out of it, and I

29:42

never felt comfortable for the for the Texas

29:44

on the other side of it, you were exactly. It was twenty four to seven

29:47

when they faked the punt, Mahomes took him down. It got

29:49

to twenty four to fourteen. I

29:51

went into I said three things on Friday on my

29:53

show Dan I said, if they can't tackle

29:55

in space, meaning the Texans are in trouble. Travis

29:58

Kelsey is the mate, is the biggest a smatch

30:00

on the field, and they did nothing about it and

30:02

didn't adjust. He was destroying them,

30:04

and you didn't adjust, say well, let's try this. That's

30:07

what good coaches do. And then finally

30:09

I said, at some point time, special teams will

30:11

be the difference in the game. Well, I didn't know that eight special

30:13

teams plays, we're going to be in it. But youth look

30:15

at that and it's it's never one play, but it's

30:17

a series of about six to eight plays, and

30:19

bingo. The Chiefs capitalized more, especially

30:22

as the game went on. But when your leader

30:24

knows that you're in it and it's not fake leadership,

30:27

you know you got a chance. Rotson Special Dan,

30:29

but he had to fight the updal battle. The difference

30:32

is there's a poise about throwing the ball away

30:34

and not trying to hit a home run every time that

30:36

it has Mahomes just one step up

30:39

from the rest of them. From most of the dudes in this

30:41

league. We're pretty lucky with Lamar and Deshaun

30:43

and Pat Mahomes, But Mahomes

30:45

will be the leader in the clubhouse, and he gives you a legitimate

30:47

chance to win. In February, I mentioned about a

30:49

half hour ago that there are certain players that

30:51

you always attached their age to them,

30:53

like Tom Brady, his official name is

30:55

Tom Brady who's forty two, and Drew Bradys

30:58

who's forty, and Philip Rivers and Ben

31:00

Roethlisberger. Aaron Rodgers is getting

31:03

there, you know, the thirty six year old Aaron

31:05

Rodgers. There's nothing thirty six about

31:07

him. I truly marveled

31:09

when Nick game, when he needed a couple

31:11

of big plays on third down, he delivered

31:14

big time. And I

31:17

think we somehow he's not underrated,

31:19

but maybe under the radar this season.

31:22

Yeah. Well, and because he hasn't had those gaudy

31:24

stats, right, we're so used to now,

31:27

Man, you got to beat in Lamar and run for a thousand

31:29

and throw for thirty five or forty touchnes or pat

31:31

and throw for fifty touchdowns. And we've

31:33

seen gaudy from Aaron so many

31:36

times. But when it's on the line and you're

31:38

exactly right, and I do believe, well, maybe

31:40

I don't know if it's underappreciated, underrated, but

31:42

is there a more confident guy in his ability in his

31:44

right arm than anybody in the league, I'm honestly,

31:47

And the ball comes out so quickly and you're exactly

31:49

right, matter of fact, when you just mentioned his age. I was

31:51

going, how old is he again? I know how old Rivers

31:54

and Brady and Breeze are, and you're

31:56

right. But I can tell you this, you may be attaching

31:59

Super Bowl champion again because he's

32:01

finally got a guy in the backfield

32:03

and a team that's committed to run in the

32:05

football. He doesn't have to throw forty

32:07

five times to beat you. But I promise you this.

32:10

I don't know what's going to happen against San Francisco,

32:12

but if he does have to throw forty five times,

32:15

he can. He's special and one of the

32:17

greats of all time, regardless

32:19

of the number of Super Bowls he has. I'll take him any

32:21

day of the week when there's a game on the line,

32:23

and the two quarterbacks in that game he saw Russ

32:26

put him in a position to win. But Aaron last

32:29

drive does everything necessary so

32:31

you don't let the other dude get the ball in his hands. Yeah.

32:33

I really thought that Russell

32:36

was going to lead them down and they really take the

32:38

lead, and then he was gonna lead too much time on the clock

32:40

for Aaron Rodgers to come back. But

32:42

also you know that's San Francisco performance

32:45

sort of got lost because there

32:47

was never really a game, and then

32:50

you know, you probably went about your day because if you

32:52

looked and he said Minnesota's not coming

32:54

back, that's a that's

32:56

a great front there. And if

32:58

you can put pressure on Roger and not have

33:00

to blitz anybody. I

33:03

was really really impressed with or

33:05

with the Niners defense, right Dan,

33:08

think about then as we go to the Final

33:10

four, and think about the final four, about

33:12

game plans and what you stick and do, what you do

33:14

with slide adjustments. The forty nine ers are physical.

33:17

What is their mo We're gonna formation you, We're

33:19

gonna personnel group, We're gonna run the football down your throat,

33:21

and we're gonna mal you on defense and go in Dalvin

33:24

Cook wasn't gonna beat us to nine

33:26

ten carries, Kirk Cousins, We're gonna have to beat him.

33:28

Didn't happen. Look at the Tennessee Baltimore game,

33:30

Baltimore completely out of their game plan, throwing

33:32

fifty plus times, and what did Tennessee

33:34

do. Vrabel looks at the coordinators, is you better

33:36

hand it to that outside linebacker that dresses in

33:38

a phone booth and we're gonna run down their throat

33:40

and we're gonna stick with it to the tune of one hundred

33:43

and ninety plus yards or whatever it was. They're out

33:45

of there. The Texans throw fifty plus times.

33:47

Kansas City does what they do the forty

33:49

nine ers as far as the complete team

33:51

dan where you don't have to rely on the quarterback to carry

33:53

it, but he can in moments, they're

33:56

about as complete a team as there is. And look at

33:58

all this old school football hunt

34:00

you in the mouth where you out, force

34:03

you to throw it more and to take your game

34:05

plan out. That's why the final four is great. They

34:07

all have got there kind of the old fashioned

34:09

way. They've all run it, they've all played defense.

34:11

In the forty nine ers probably when it

34:13

comes to all around, do it better than

34:16

anybody in the league right now because the quarterback

34:18

is more than capable of throwing it and they're so physical.

34:20

We're back to old Steelers, old forty

34:23

nine ers, old Cowboys, that type of

34:25

old Ravens football here in two and

34:27

twenty. Have you heard about my Titans?

34:30

I know that they're pretty good. Are they your Titans?

34:33

What? What else do I need to know about them? They've

34:35

been my team for years. There

34:37

you're so that's been your favorite Vrabel's

34:39

good. Yeah, and you want to try you see at the end

34:42

of the game, when when when Derrick Henry

34:44

gets in the secondary guy who's like, you know what, you

34:47

know what? I don't think so not today, man, I don't

34:49

want to he punishes people. So they So they've

34:52

been your favorite team for years truly?

34:54

Well months, Oh

34:57

okay, so you're trying to tell me they've saved

34:59

the seat on the on the band

35:01

blaggon for you. So he decided to jump on

35:03

in middle Steed coach, But

35:07

no, I bet mclove and I took the Titans and gave

35:09

him the Ravens and mcloven has to

35:11

dressed as a Titan U coming night.

35:14

Yeah, now can they dan? You know who? It

35:16

reminds me of remember when when Bob Greasy

35:18

and Zonka kick and Mercury

35:21

Morris, when look at Greasy and those two

35:23

super Bowls. Look at his number of passing

35:25

attempts that he threw to win those two

35:27

super Bowls. They're kind of doing it that way, dude.

35:29

We're not going to throw it much more than fifteen times, and when you

35:31

do, just be efficient and we're gonna third

35:33

and eight. We can still a third and eight. Our

35:35

best option is turned around and handed that thick due

35:37

in the backfield. Yeah, they got a chance, Dan, because

35:40

they Rabel's not going to deviate. He'll make adjustments.

35:42

He's not gonna dvate. The teams that are going to be playing

35:44

in February will be the ones that control of the line of scrimma.

35:46

Sounds so cliche and cheap, but it's

35:48

the truth, and it's still football, and it won't

35:51

change fifty more years from now. You've got to be physical,

35:53

and all four of these teams left. Cannock you the mouth.

35:55

Thank you, Sean. Good to talk to you, buddy. Nice

35:58

to talk to you. I appreciate you having me on half build them. But

36:00

congratulations on the Hall of Fame over

36:02

Duing Weller and my man. I appreciate it. I'm glad

36:04

for it. Thank you, Sean. That's Sean Salisbury,

36:07

Sports Talk seven ninety Houston morning Drive

36:09

host in former NFL quarterback.

36:11

Yeah, there were some running games. I know McClellan

36:14

doesn't place a whole lot of credibility

36:16

and having a great running back, but what about

36:19

a great running attack mclove right. Yeah,

36:21

Well, I think four of the top seven

36:23

rush tries this weekend were quarterbacks. I mean,

36:26

the running quarterback is the thing now. Mahomes

36:28

Rand like, yeah yeah,

36:31

and then I'll keep this up. I

36:33

think they can with the new rules. It's

36:37

being smart when you run, that's

36:39

all. Lamar Jackson goes in there and

36:41

he's he's a running back. Yeah,

36:43

seton, But don't you just keep looking at Derek Henry

36:45

and being like, does he have another game in him?

36:48

How long is he keeping this run going. I

36:50

don't know if he's hurt, but I know that the guys

36:52

that are trying to tackle him are hurt or

36:54

their feelings are hurt. But there was a moment in

36:56

that game where it felt like the Ravens

36:59

and I don't call anybody out, but it felt

37:01

like there was a player or

37:03

players who said, oh god,

37:06

it's gonna hurt. Yeah,

37:08

you know. The offseason is like, uh, you

37:10

know, about an hour away? Why

37:13

bother here? Yeah? Boy?

37:15

I was looking some Derek Henry highlights from high school.

37:17

He's the biggest guy in the field. He's bigger, stronger, and

37:19

faster, And all they did was run the ball in that pass

37:22

and it's still going on ten years

37:24

later. Remember when he came into the man Cave

37:26

after he won the high Span, I

37:28

went, good, God, he's a running back. He carried

37:31

the ball thirty times. No one else who plays

37:33

the running back position on their team carried the ball.

37:35

No other running back touched the ball that game. Yeah, why

37:38

did the Ravens totally abandon their

37:40

running backs after a season

37:42

long of wild success running the ball? And they just

37:44

said it, now we're going to drop back every player. It

37:46

felt like there was panic there for some

37:48

reason. It really did. And

37:51

you know, unlike Seattle, because

37:53

Seattle came out in the second half and ran the

37:55

football. Because you

37:58

know, I know Kansas City does run the football

38:00

that much, and they can demoralize you

38:02

with their wide open offense, but there is

38:05

nothing more demoralizing than just

38:07

systematically taking you apart by

38:09

running the football. Yeah, for Tea and

38:11

not only that, when you know it's coming and you look

38:13

at all you see all these stats of what he's done these past

38:16

several weeks, so you know that's basically their

38:18

offense, and you still can't stop them. Knowing it's

38:20

all gonna be Derek Henry Well, I knew he was going

38:22

to throw to Travis Kelsey and they had

38:24

to know he was throwing to Travis Kelsey and they

38:26

still couldn't stop it. But once

38:28

again, two guys on Kelsey probably

38:31

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into his left. They're gonna throw the duchy and

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day football. It's all over

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throw second Prof. Shane

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Badrutt the there

40:00

eight national chaps, yesh

40:05

all eight titles have come in the last nine

40:07

seasons. Is it time for North

40:10

Dakota State to be upgraded?

40:13

Do we put them in the Big twelve? Like? Where do we

40:16

put North Dakota State promotion to the Big

40:18

twelve? Or do you if you're in North Dakota

40:20

State, do you want to stay there and

40:22

continue to dominate there or would

40:25

you rather go up where there's no guarantee that

40:27

you're gonna You might be playing for conference

40:29

titles, but probably not a national

40:31

title anytime soon. Yeah, North Dakota State,

40:34

they usually play like Kansas State or a big

40:36

time opponent every year and if they can

40:38

knock them off, they get some good pub. But if they went

40:40

to the Big twelve and finished seven

40:42

and five. Is that better than just rolling

40:45

the fcs? I

40:48

don't know what I mean. They're they're

40:50

the game in town. You're playing for a national

40:52

championship. By the way, Bison

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that's pretty impressive. They've won thirty seven

41:16

games in a row, eight

41:18

titles in the last nine years. They beat

41:21

James Madison, who I think was the only

41:23

team in that stretch that won a national

41:25

title. Yes, the quarterback for an Axtricata

41:28

State, Trey Lance. He didn't throw an interception

41:30

this year. Yeah, not in the title game or the playoffs,

41:32

the entire season. Twenty eight touchdowns,

41:34

No picks for Trey Lance. He's a freshman.

41:38

But they they've had like Easton Stick,

41:40

Carson Wentz, Sir, and now Trey

41:43

Lance is the Highlands is the like

41:46

the clumsy quarterback to one double A gotta

41:49

wait two years from going to be drafted out of them. He's the

41:51

Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, okay, yes, McLean.

41:54

Now if they go to the Big Ten, are they good at losing ball

41:56

games? Because that's isn't that a requirement? Oh?

41:59

Yeah he went there? What

42:02

do you have You been sitting on that one for a

42:04

while. Yeah. There is a lot of twitter jokes this

42:06

season about Big Ten struggling in bowl games.

42:09

So is there You're not going to the Big twelve.

42:11

That's the old Southwest Conference. They're going to the Big

42:13

Ten, aren't they? North

42:15

North Dakota State? Right, you got

42:17

in the brownskid there? You know, all seriousness.

42:20

If you if you're the Big Ten and you could drop Rutgers

42:22

and add North Dakota State, I would do that a second. A

42:24

decent football program, a great fan, I'm

42:27

dead serious. A relegation game, Rutgers

42:30

versus North Dakota. Now

42:34

we're on to something. I'll take the Bison and give

42:36

you nine and a half easy? Could

42:38

we could we see if Vegas would come up

42:40

with a line of Rutgers

42:42

this past season versus North Dakota State. We

42:44

should put that game, neutral neutral site.

42:48

Well, Rutgers is a neutral site. Wow, well

42:51

yes, mclovin. I'll tell you where that game would be. Saturday

42:54

twelve, Newton, Indiana

42:59

and Maryland up in the mix, and I sat,

43:04

and who doesn't like a nooner? Brandon and

43:06

Kansas joints? Hi, Brandon got

43:12

the best and worst. Worst would be the

43:14

first quarter of the Chiefs game, and

43:16

the best would be the second quarter on all

43:19

right, and

43:21

that all the

43:24

Texans playing in fear on the fake punt fourth

43:27

and fourth new right, then it was over. Yeah,

43:29

that was Mike feeling. Thanks for the phone

43:31

called, Brandon. And even though what

43:34

twenty four to it just felt like they

43:37

had a lot of energy going there, a

43:39

lot of good things happening, and you were keeping

43:41

Patrick Mahomes off the field, but

43:44

Kansas City was beating themselves. And

43:46

I think that's where Mahomes was saying, Hey, just relax,

43:49

let us get into our rhythm. And that's

43:52

as impressive offensively as I've

43:54

seen in the postseason postseason history. You

43:57

know you're peeling off fifty one point

44:00

one to seven. Yeah, mclu There

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was a fourth town late in the Seahawks Packers

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where the Shaws were

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three twenty two left? Should they have not punted

44:09

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