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0:00

You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show

0:02

on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome

0:05

to the program. It's hour two. We'll check

0:07

in with Brian Wynhorst covers the NBA

0:10

for the Mothership. Any big name is going to sit

0:12

out the rest of the NBA season,

0:14

So we'll talk to Brian in a little bit. Darius

0:16

Rucker he'll join us in the final

0:19

hour of the show. NASCAR drivers

0:21

showing support for Bubba Wallace at Tavadega

0:24

yesterday. Bubba didn't win, but

0:26

he won. Baseball has to deal

0:29

right now with the aftershocks of a

0:32

sixty game season. It's supposed to start

0:34

July twenty fourth. I was

0:36

told it could be a week later. Here's

0:39

another thing, and it's another thing to keep an eye on.

0:41

And I mentioned this. I keep mentioning

0:43

it because I do think it is more

0:46

of a reality than just a maybe

0:49

or what if. And that is the NFL

0:51

season being pushed back. That

0:53

might just be one week. And Albert Breer,

0:55

the Monday Morning quarterback, had this yesterday.

0:59

You know, there is growing concern from

1:01

a couple of owners right now of starting

1:04

the season a week later. I

1:07

keep hearing my source has said, Hey,

1:09

you know what, You're right, they're looking

1:12

at removing the first four games

1:14

and putting them at the back end of the regular

1:16

season schedule. But that's just something

1:18

that's going on right now with the NFL. We

1:20

always feel like, well, the NFL just plows

1:22

through everything. The NFL, they

1:24

don't let anything stand in its way. Well,

1:27

this is standing in its way. And

1:29

I think that there is and

1:32

I'm careful to use the word

1:34

apprehension, there is concern

1:36

here, but you know, apprehension

1:39

of can we just push this forward

1:41

and we start this season on time. I

1:43

don't know how they're going to have preseason

1:45

games. I don't know how it's possible

1:47

they're going to have a preseason game in the

1:49

first week in August. But you

1:51

know, it feels like it's full speed ahead for the

1:54

NFL. You know, college football.

1:56

I think you're going to hear more and more stories about

1:59

these presidents, these chancellors, athletic

2:01

directors having a little

2:03

bit more of a cautionary tone here of trying

2:06

to get this season cram it in. You

2:09

know, the NBA, with what's happening, it feels

2:12

like they've got a really good head start here with

2:14

the bubble, but there are players that aren't

2:16

going to go, and we'll talk to Brian Winhorst about

2:18

them. We'll take your phone calls eight seven

2:20

seven three d P show Email Adrastpadanpatrick

2:23

dot com Twitter, hand to a DP show, Say

2:26

good morning to our radio and TV partners. The

2:28

general rule of work stoppages in sports

2:31

is they seem like a big deal when

2:33

they're happening, but that

2:35

significance fades over the years. No

2:37

one really remembers which Super Bowls, the World

2:39

Series, or NBA Championships happened in

2:41

strike shortened seasons. We don't maybe

2:45

we won't remember how ridiculous these negotiations

2:48

were with Major League Baseball, if you want to call

2:50

them negotiations. Yesterday, the

2:52

union shot down the owner's latest proposal,

2:55

and that opened the way for the commissioner

2:57

to say we're having a sixty game schedule

3:00

based on a March agreement.

3:03

Keep this in mind, the commissioner could

3:05

have said we're having a seventy game

3:07

schedule. He

3:09

could have said eighty games. He said sixty,

3:13

and he said sixty because he

3:15

knows what the bottom line is

3:17

going to be, provided that there's

3:19

no second wave of this coronavirus

3:22

coming up. In October. This

3:25

is going to cost the owner. Here, they've done the math.

3:27

That's why I kept saying, this is all scripted.

3:30

He goes sixty games and

3:32

says to his owners, this

3:35

is how much you're going to lose, and

3:37

then you get to the postseason, this

3:40

is how much you can make, and this

3:42

is what you're going to pay the players if

3:44

you're losing somewhere close to a half million

3:46

dollars per regular season game.

3:49

This is what the owners are estimating, whether it's

3:51

true or not. They're

3:53

looking at the math. That's all they did.

3:56

They didn't look at this and go, you know what, for the betterment

3:58

of the country and the betterment of the game aim and

4:01

that's all be us. This is about

4:03

the bottom line. How

4:05

much am I going to lose? And

4:08

how much am I going to make in the postseason.

4:11

That's all this came down to. We

4:14

talk about all this rhetoric and back and

4:16

forth and we want this and we wanted and pro rated

4:18

and it's all nonsense. It

4:21

was all nonsense. We're

4:24

gonna stall that was

4:26

the word that was used by source said they're

4:28

stalling on purpose.

4:32

And what they did is the commissioner he

4:35

took the slings and arrows to save

4:38

millions and millions of dollars for his owners.

4:41

That's it. That's it. They

4:44

probably get him a new contract. We might look

4:46

at him and say, what is the commissioner doing to the sport?

4:49

The owners might say, hey, you did a great job,

4:51

man Fred. It's

4:54

it's a clunky process for baseball. Thank you,

4:56

thank you, thank you. It

4:58

feels like a missed opportunity, another missed

5:00

opportunity for baseball. I had a chance to start

5:03

up earlier. You could have owned.

5:05

Imagine if baseball was playing right now. Imagine

5:08

if baseball was starting next week,

5:10

two weeks July fourth weekend.

5:14

Hopefully this abbreviated season will work out.

5:16

It'll be entertaining. A lot of teams will be in the playoff

5:18

mix. I

5:21

don't know if that makes it easier to forget how frustrating

5:23

the last month has been for

5:25

loyal baseball fans. But I certainly feel

5:27

you. I do, because I think we all got

5:29

played in this situation, all

5:32

right. Prior to the end of last hour,

5:34

PAULI had a

5:35

hot pole question

5:38

there, all right, So if you could

5:40

change ownership of any

5:42

team for the betterment of their fan base, Yeah,

5:45

that this franchise has struggled on the field,

5:48

on the court, or public perception

5:50

or getting free agents or all of the above. What

5:52

fan base in American sports needs new

5:55

ownership the most. Okay, so Nicks,

5:58

Redskins. You're

6:01

saying Cowboys, it's

6:05

been a while since they've gone deep into playoffs. Yeah,

6:08

and their ownership though he runs

6:10

the NFL as he running a good team,

6:13

he's a good businessman, is

6:16

a good football owner. I mean, they've got a

6:18

really nice TV in the building, But

6:20

did they that's a jumboldrum.

6:23

Yes. Don't you wonder like with all those eight

6:25

and ete seasons that maybe if there was a

6:27

different owner, if there wasn't the owner trying to be the owner

6:30

and the GM, that maybe a couple of those eight mates

6:32

could have been ten and sixes, and you know, they should

6:35

have been going a lot further in a couple of those years.

6:37

In recent Yeah, I don't think anybody's going

6:39

to argue that they're never awful. Jerry

6:41

the owner and Jerry the GM are two different

6:44

people. So

6:48

Cowboys, Knicks, Redskins, who else

6:50

is on that list? The

6:53

Knicks have nine postseason victories

6:56

since two thousand that's by far the worst in

6:58

the league. Not a peer's victory.

7:01

Yeah, that means games that they won, Yeah,

7:03

but not nine playoff appearances.

7:06

Nine games in the playoffs and that one year they

7:08

had most of them with Carmelo Anthony. Yes,

7:11

mclovin. If you're looking at futility,

7:13

like the Browns haven't won a playoff game. The Lions

7:15

haven't won a playoff game. O Bills,

7:18

Jeff and Detroit's gonna call in on that. Um

7:21

Bills are kind of newer, you know,

7:23

they don't teams. NFL teams

7:25

have not had a postseason win since two thousand of

7:27

the Bills, Bengals, Browns, and Lions. Yeah,

7:30

but I don't look at the Bills as an eptitude.

7:32

They made They made four Super Bowls, and

7:35

I know that might seem like it's ancient history

7:37

here, but that's a great

7:40

fan base. The new family owns at the

7:42

Yeah. Yeah, and they've done okay, you know, they've made

7:44

the playoffs, all right, So that's Browns

7:46

to me, Like, I like see something about the Browns.

7:49

It's one thing, like what Paula say, It's

7:51

one thing not to win, but it's another to sort

7:53

of do things. The wrong way, like

7:55

the Knicks and the Browns. Yeah,

7:57

the Knicks. It's how

7:59

many of these franchises do you look at the top

8:02

and say that's where the problem starts? You

8:04

know? The Ford Family. I don't.

8:06

I don't know if we ever look at the Ford Family

8:09

and go, boy, they're dysfunctional. The

8:12

Cowboys just Jerry wants to be too

8:14

involved. The Knicks that starts

8:16

at the top, The red Skins

8:19

with Daniel Snyder starts at the top. The

8:21

Browns Jimmy Haslem feels

8:24

like it starts at the top. All right, that's the

8:26

poll question. How's that? We'll go

8:28

with that. A couple of phone calls in here,

8:30

Nick and Iowa, Hey, Nick, what do you have for me today?

8:34

Heydp, thanks for taking my call first

8:36

time, long time, six seven

8:38

three bills? All righty, hey,

8:42

real quick. I was just curious.

8:44

I just saw a report on Yahoo that forty

8:47

MLB players and staff tested

8:49

positive for coronavirus last week. With

8:51

all of that going on and this back

8:54

and forth, do you think they even get I

8:56

don't even think they get a season off this year if

8:58

they don't with potential

9:02

what you're talking about, labor, labor situation,

9:04

next year as a kind of curtains for the MLB. No,

9:07

it's not curtains, but you know it's

9:09

really it's damaging. And

9:11

thanks for the phone call, Nick. Yeah.

9:14

I once again, I

9:16

just feel like I'm, you know, speaking into

9:18

the wind here when I bring these things

9:20

up about all these safety precautions

9:22

that I don't know if Baseball is

9:24

able to pull this off. I really don't because

9:28

nobody's talked about this. We make it

9:30

seem like, hey, if they get the finances worked

9:32

out, everything else is going to take care of itself. And

9:34

I'm like, I don't think so. Some

9:38

information that I learn, it

9:40

looks like baseball teams will have thirty active

9:42

players on the roster just in case players test

9:44

positive, and then they'll they'll

9:47

reduce that number like

9:49

twenty eight, twenty six and probably

9:52

settle on twenty six. But with

9:54

no minor league season, the

9:57

teams will have about

9:59

sixty players is available. Total sixty

10:01

players available. When players

10:03

test positive, they're gonna

10:05

need at least three days of testing.

10:08

You gotta get players from Latin America here three

10:10

days of testing. Then they're gonna work out

10:12

for three weeks. They're gonna have training

10:14

camp for three weeks and

10:16

then they're gonna try to play here at

10:18

the end of July. The

10:21

players are going to play the sixty

10:23

games, and they get paid whatever they get

10:25

paid. They don't get paid anything

10:28

over meal money during

10:30

the playoffs and the World Series.

10:35

Oh boy, they're gonna be happy campers.

10:38

You know. We like to have the player miked

10:40

up during the playoffs and Joe buckets

10:42

to talk to them and man, this is good. What

10:45

do the managers do? Do the managers

10:48

side with the players

10:50

on this and say I'm

10:53

not going to cooperate because You're

10:55

not going to get a lot of cooperation here from these

10:57

players. They're

10:59

not. Uh,

11:01

Kurt and Oregon, Hi, Kurt, what do you have

11:04

for me today? Hey? Dan?

11:06

Um, I wanted to offer

11:08

up a documentary, Uh,

11:11

for fans out there. The NASCAR

11:13

race was incredible yesterday. Um,

11:16

there's a there's a Netflix doc called

11:18

Uppity about Willie t Ribbs

11:21

and it's produced by The Dan

11:23

Patrick Show host Adam Corolla and

11:26

um, yeah, and it's it's an

11:28

incredible story about this guy.

11:30

And it didn't matter what vehicle he was in.

11:33

He just wanted to race and he was the fastest

11:35

at every single thing he touched, and people

11:38

didn't want me to give him sponsorships, people messed

11:40

with his motors, and uh yeah, but

11:42

you know, through it all, he he just went

11:44

kind of uh sport to

11:46

sport, different different tracks

11:49

and and he he did it and

11:51

he was really good and uh but you know,

11:53

never really got to love that he deserves. It's

11:56

really good. Thank you, thank you. And Adam

11:58

Corolla loves loves him

12:00

some cars and he can tell the story.

12:03

Was Willie t Ribs the first African American

12:05

to win a NASCAR race? Dad,

12:08

I'm not sure, but he raced all over

12:10

in the eighties and nineties, two thousands. He's sixty five

12:12

years old. He was an IndyCar, Champ car

12:15

all over get like he said, he went a different bounce round

12:17

from different series, but he was pretty well known. Mike

12:20

and Michigan joins us him. Mike, what do you have for me today?

12:26

This is Mike five six one

12:28

sixty and I

12:30

would like to make the argument

12:32

for the Fords. I know you mentioned it's

12:34

hard to dislike the Fords because

12:36

there they are nice people. However,

12:39

they're also pretty indifferent people.

12:42

They like because we have a loyal fan base they're

12:44

content with fans in the stands and that's

12:46

it. I mean, look at Matt Millen. We had him

12:48

for eight years. His best record

12:51

as a GM seven and nine. So

12:53

the Lions love my Lions. But

12:56

man, it is hard because I just

12:58

feel like our owners do not care. So thanks

13:00

all right, Well thank you Mike. Yeah.

13:02

I don't know if if

13:05

you know that you're making a profit, how much

13:07

profit you're making, what is

13:11

you know? And it's do you have ego or you are

13:13

you competitive? Or you just say, look, we

13:16

can kind of just put a team

13:18

out there and we know we're going to make money in the NFL.

13:21

And it sometimes feels that way, but

13:23

then you get other owners who get too involved,

13:26

and that's usually to the detriment, Like

13:28

your genius is not making

13:31

football moves. Your genius was

13:33

another business that allowed you to buy

13:35

a football team, and that is

13:38

what is lost on these

13:40

owners, some of these owners who get so involved.

13:42

I always look at you know,

13:45

there's owners who just stay

13:47

out of the business decisions.

13:50

Now they may have the final word, but

13:53

when the owner goes and

13:55

this happened with the Cleveland Browns, when

13:59

he is saying I want to take

14:01

Johnny Manziel and

14:04

they could have taken Derek

14:06

Carr. Now you can say, well, Derek

14:09

Carr is not great. Derek Carr is a

14:11

huge upgrade over Johnny Manziel. And

14:14

somebody who worked in the organization said,

14:17

at the time they

14:19

were taking I was I was told,

14:21

we're taking Derek Carr if he's if Derek Carr's

14:24

there, were taking him. They passed on him twice

14:28

and Cleveland would have been better off with Derek

14:31

Carr. Then they'd be better off with Derek

14:33

Carr than Baker Mayfield probably right now.

14:37

But that ownership,

14:39

I mean they may luck into something here and

14:42

it would be lucking into something. But

14:45

yeah, it starts at the top. It's

14:48

hard to look. You know, when you look at a team

14:51

and you go that that own you

14:53

start with the owner. It's hard to go, you know,

14:55

we're really successful and we have a terrible owner.

14:57

Like how many teams do you

15:00

look at and you go, they're great, but their

15:02

owner is not good. It's it starts

15:04

there. Look at this success,

15:07

look at the Rooney's even

15:09

back when you know the Cowboys were good,

15:13

you know, under a different regime. You know, Jerry,

15:15

I think when Jerry first

15:17

started, he let Jimmy do it,

15:20

and then I think Jerry wanted

15:22

more credit and therefore he got

15:25

rid of Jimmy Johnson. And they haven't been

15:27

the same because Jimmy is a football

15:29

guy. He came up with the

15:31

whole, you know, draft strategy

15:34

of trading draft picks. He came

15:36

up with that table adding

15:39

value to each draft pick. You

15:42

know the forty nine Ers with Eddie de Bartelow, you

15:44

know the Steelers with a Rooney family. If

15:47

you look, we don't even know who

15:49

the owner of the Spurs is, right that

15:54

RC Buford will come up. He's the GM

15:58

ownership. Lets people do

16:00

their job. And I've I've been

16:02

very fortunate because you

16:04

know, when I had bosses before I went out on

16:06

my own recently, those bosses

16:09

knew. They can't tell me how to do radio

16:11

or TV. They can't tell me what

16:13

to ask in a question. They can't tell me

16:16

they run the business side of this. I

16:19

run this side of it. I'm the talent

16:21

involved in this, for the lack of a better description,

16:25

and I always appreciated that let me do

16:27

my job, you do your job, and

16:30

then I'll meet you later and we can celebrate but

16:34

you know, ownership that's tricky

16:37

because they all think you

16:39

can't tell a billionaire no, or you don't

16:41

know what you're doing. Yeah. Point, I

16:43

think we found something that the Knicks are going to win. I

16:45

think that run with this question. I'll

16:48

bet they gotta be at sixty

16:50

percent. Yeah, ask me clean. You know, but

16:52

the guys who move the teams, that's a different

16:54

level of hate. Like they hate for Art Modell, the

16:57

Ursay's Stan Crocky. I've heard

16:59

seen things like people hate

17:01

them when they the old town. Well,

17:04

I understand that, and if I'm a Rams

17:06

fan, a Saint Louis fan, I would

17:09

despise Stan Cronky. You

17:11

know when you when you build something for somebody

17:13

and then they go, you know what, I need something

17:16

better now. Business

17:18

wise, he made an incredible business

17:20

decision to be able to relocate

17:22

in Los Angeles and to have that multi

17:25

billion dollars stadium. It's

17:27

just there's collateral damage, and

17:29

the fans are always collateral damage.

17:32

You're finding that out in baseball right now. Fans

17:34

are collateral damage. We're gonna take a

17:36

break. Brian Windhorse kind enough to join

17:38

us, We'll talk to him or as PAULI likes to say

17:41

brain windhorse is

17:43

all. That's how you spelled it. You put brain

17:45

Windhorst art correct,

17:48

Yeah, or I'm compiment him. He seems like a very bright

17:50

fellow brain. He might like that brain

17:52

Windhorst. He'll join us coming up next

17:54

nineteen after the hour here on The Dan Patrick Show.

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18:15

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18:18

the first African American driver

18:21

in NASCAR history to win a race that

18:23

was a Grand National Series, NASCAR's highest

18:26

level. We didn't know if it was Willie t Ribbs,

18:28

but Wendell Scott. And we'll

18:30

have Bubba Wallace, I believe on the program tomorrow.

18:33

I think his schedule was pretty full

18:35

today, but Fritzie's been in contact

18:37

with his people and Bubba's set to join

18:39

us tomorrow. Darius Rocker will join us

18:41

coming up next down our Brian Winhorse ESPN

18:43

Senior NBA rider kind enough to join

18:46

us. He'll be part of

18:48

the Jump and ESPN news

18:50

information platforms covering the NBA

18:52

in the return here closely, and Brian

18:55

joins us, are you going to the bubble? Brian,

18:58

I don't think so. But the

19:00

reason I have to say don't think is because they haven't

19:03

announced the media rules

19:05

yet. Not that that's a big priority, but

19:09

UM, we don't know. We don't know what the

19:11

what the law of the land is going to be. We have to hear about

19:13

it. What are your what's Do

19:15

you have a like a singular biggest

19:17

concern here going into this and

19:20

what they're trying to pull off? Yeah,

19:22

I have two. One is

19:24

that and and my

19:26

guess it would be a star player, but it could

19:28

be anybody. Is that somebody comes

19:31

down with the virus and the players

19:33

just lose confidence in the entire thing, and

19:36

whether there's an outbreak or not, they

19:38

say I don't want to do this anymore and they defect.

19:41

Um. The other concern I have is

19:43

of a genuine outbreak where you

19:46

know, there's a lag time. As much as

19:48

the NBA is doing here and they are doing

19:50

everything, just about everything

19:52

that we know to do. Um,

19:54

is that there there, they miss it, somebody

19:57

gets sick and infects five or six other people,

20:00

and it's an outbreak to the point where not

20:02

only do you have to shut it down, but

20:04

it becomes unclear whether you're gonna

20:06

be able to restart it again anytime in the the near future.

20:09

That I think would be a whisk. It's name. How

20:11

many name players have you heard

20:13

from off the record that might not go?

20:18

I guess it depends on your definition the word name players.

20:22

From my read on, folks,

20:25

everyone is ready to go. Whether

20:28

they're going to be ready to go in

20:30

in a month when this actually starts a different

20:33

question. You know, yesterday the Toronto Raptors

20:35

left to go to Florida to begin this because

20:38

of you know, issues with Canada

20:40

the US border crossings. They had to leave early.

20:42

And if they make it back to the finals, that's a long

20:45

shot. But if they make it back to the finals, Dan, they

20:47

wouldn't be back home until October.

20:51

October, that means they left yesterday,

20:54

it's a possibility they would not be back until

20:56

the fall. Explain

20:59

what the deadline means tomorrow, So

21:03

the players have until tomorrow to raise their

21:05

hands and say I'm not going. But

21:07

that I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna be clue. I'm

21:10

gonna be honest. The NBA is changing

21:12

the rules all the time. It's

21:14

not like we have a fifteen year history

21:16

of this playbook working. If

21:19

somebody says they decide they don't want to play

21:21

in three weeks, do I think the NBA is going to like

21:24

put them in shackles and twurce them into

21:26

into an airplane. No, I do not. But

21:30

the reason that they have to tell

21:32

the teams now is that for

21:34

the next week, starting in noon today, a

21:36

transaction window opens that you can

21:38

sign replacement players. And if

21:41

you want to be able to replace a player who's

21:43

either injured or who's

21:45

uh, you know, doesn't want

21:47

to go, or have something open to other concerns,

21:50

you have to do it within the next seven days. So that's

21:53

why this window opens

21:55

by today's deadline. Yeah, I'm just

21:57

I'm curious about the raws

22:00

size here too, Brian. We're seeing with Major League

22:02

Baseball that they're going to have to expand the rosters,

22:05

you know, just in case or when it happens

22:08

at somebody test positive. How

22:10

much of a talent pool will these NBA

22:12

teams have to draw from

22:15

not much. You know, most NBA

22:18

teams have two minor

22:23

league players. It's kind of like having options

22:25

on a baseball contract. You can call the

22:27

guys up a certain amount of times, so

22:30

they kind of have those two guys. There's a there's

22:32

a few guys kicking around out there who are

22:34

free agents who may be decent

22:37

additions, but you

22:40

know, you lose a starting line player, you're

22:42

not going to replace them with the starting line

22:44

player. You're going to replace them with a warm

22:47

body. And I think one of the

22:49

concerns here is, remember

22:51

they're going to place three weeks of these

22:53

regular season games before the playoffs

22:56

start. If you're in ninth or tenth

22:58

place and you lose is the first

23:01

two or three games and you're out of it and

23:03

you're still faced with being in that bubble for

23:05

another two weeks, are you just

23:07

gonna say forget this, I'm going

23:10

home. And because the NBA

23:12

is not stopping anybody from leaving now, if you

23:14

leave, want to come back, now, we have a

23:16

problem. But if you leave, they're not gonna say stop.

23:19

And so that's a bit of a concern. What happens

23:22

to that group of players in the office

23:24

because you are going to be committed

23:26

to being there for five or six weeks. There's two and a

23:28

half or three weeks of training camp, then

23:31

these eight games over the course

23:33

of two and a half three weeks. You may be

23:35

tired of being there. If you're in ninth place, they have no

23:37

chance of advancing. You're

23:39

not doing a good job addressing this up, Brian.

23:42

Sorry, you

23:45

got a sneaky team.

23:48

So the team that has underperformed all year

23:50

long has been the Philly seventy six

23:53

ers. And nobody can

23:55

figure out why they would be twenty nine

23:57

and two at home, because I'm gonna tell you something. To

24:00

be twenty nine and two at home, you got to be a damn

24:02

good team. And you look at their roster

24:04

and you know that their talent doesn't exact they fit together,

24:06

but there's some really good players there,

24:09

and they were like below fight. They were like thirteen

24:11

and fifteen on the road and twenty nine and two at

24:13

home. Okay, Well, the guess what, they don't

24:15

have to play They don't get to play home games anymore.

24:17

That's a disadvantage. But that

24:20

is a good team. And if

24:22

they could align together and

24:25

hit their you know, hit some sort of stride.

24:28

They could really be dangerous. The

24:30

other thing I want to see is what

24:33

the hell happened to Nikola yokicha

24:37

somewhere. My guess is forty

24:39

to fifty pounds. When

24:41

I saw him last year, I was over in China

24:44

for the World Cup. He was

24:46

playing on the Serbian team. He was

24:49

not interested at all in that in being

24:51

in condition. I would say from last summer,

24:54

I would guess he's down sixty to seventy

24:56

pounds. I have no idea

24:58

what he's going to look like. That's a huge she questioned

25:00

Mark to me, yeah, but Marcus Saul looks

25:02

like he's on the same diet. Marcus

25:06

Saw has been losing weight steadily over the last

25:08

five years. And Marcus Saul is not the

25:11

number one player on a team that's

25:13

you know, on that team. Nikola

25:16

Yoki is a first team All NBA player who

25:18

just lost forty pounds and three months. Will

25:21

that make him an MVP

25:23

candidate or will that make him something

25:25

else? I mean, I think it's one of the most

25:27

fascinating things I want to see. I want

25:29

I'm gonna be watching the Nuggets

25:32

scrimmage games that they're gonna have in a couple of

25:34

weeks, maybe

25:36

you could you write up a story on the joke diet

25:39

we find out what that workout regiment is, because

25:41

I could probably institute that here on my

25:43

show. I've got it here.

25:45

He hasn't given an interview yet. Not only

25:47

that, though, I'm gonna tell you he was just photographed

25:50

last week hanging out with

25:52

the Joker Nova

25:55

Joker over in Serbia.

25:57

Well joking, Mitch has got coronavirus. Now

26:01

today, Dan, today all the

26:03

players are being tested. Okay,

26:05

Now, now Yokis would have just

26:07

come back in the country and you

26:10

know would have would before he and

26:13

be hundred some odd guys are

26:16

being tested by today. Now,

26:19

last week we saw the NFL. They said they

26:21

tested two hundred people. I'll take them at their word.

26:23

At eleven tested positive. I

26:26

did not go to Harvard, but I think that's five

26:28

percent. If you have three hundred

26:30

NBA players testing, and

26:32

let's just say it's roughly the same rate, around

26:34

five percent, you're gonna have you

26:37

know, fifteen to twenty a number

26:40

who are test positive. And here's something

26:42

that the NBA has not articulated

26:44

very well. If I was a schedual

26:46

guy would say it's on purpose, But I can't

26:48

say that if you test positive

26:51

under their rules

26:53

fourteen days no exercise,

26:56

not fourteen days isolation, fourteen

26:58

days in your bed, and then

27:00

you've got to test negative twice in twenty four hours.

27:03

And so the question I'm going

27:05

to have is if a bunch of guys here

27:07

today test positive we're asymptomatic,

27:10

and are asymptomatic in a week, that's

27:13

going to become an issue. They're gonna be like like, hey, let me get down

27:15

the court, and they're like, no, fourteen days, sir. And

27:18

so that's going to be interesting. And you know, well, well,

27:21

teams haven't announced the players who have tested

27:23

positive in the past for hipper

27:25

reason, it's going to become pretty

27:27

apparent. If you don't see your team's backup

27:29

shooting guard for ten days, you're

27:32

going to know that he's come down with

27:34

it. So I don't know how

27:36

that's all going to work. When you understand

27:38

that some of these guys are going to say I don't feel

27:40

sick, it's going to be an issue. He's

27:42

Brian Wynhorst, ESPN, Senior NBA

27:45

writer. The Lakers reportedly

27:47

working out at a billionaire's

27:49

Holt. What do we know about

27:51

this story here, Brian. I've

27:53

been there. This

27:56

guy Steve Jackson, he I

27:58

think he sold the company a long time him ago that

28:00

he founded La Gear. You remember lay

28:04

Shack had La Gear deal. He

28:06

built a gym

28:09

on his property in bel Air and

28:11

he made a replica of the Staples Center. The

28:13

court is the exact same court, except

28:16

instead of saying Staples Center in the same stenciling,

28:19

it says Jackson Center. He's

28:21

got photos all over the walls

28:23

of teams that have come there and players that have come

28:25

there throughout the years and worked

28:28

out. It's in a gaming community. When I went

28:30

there, I had to go through the gate and

28:33

he comes out and hangs out with the players

28:36

as they did. There's been commercial film there

28:38

over the years. Teams have used that to

28:40

shoot around. It's basically been

28:43

a sort of a secret underground NBA

28:45

hub, and you know, I'm

28:48

sure it's been available to many players. And

28:50

that's the thing. One of the reasons

28:52

why these NBA players were not coming

28:55

to work out of team facilities

28:57

because they had to follow all of these rules

29:00

that the NBA put down, Whereas if they go to another

29:02

place a run that they can get a private gym,

29:04

they can do whatever they feel it's necessary

29:07

to keep themselves safe. And so that's

29:09

why I think today's testing. But

29:11

you know it, they'll take a few days for it to come back. Who knows

29:14

when they'll actually announce it if they have a will. That's

29:16

why I think today's test is going to be very interesting. We're

29:18

gonna have guys who don't think they're sick or

29:20

feel fine end up coming up positive. One

29:23

other item has to do with Nicks, so

29:25

it's not a playoff team, but it does have

29:27

to do with the Bucks. Jason Kidd given

29:30

permission by the Lakers to interview

29:32

for the Knicks job, and then you

29:35

know the possibility of bringing in the

29:37

Greek freak. What do

29:39

you make of this with Jay Kidd and

29:41

the Knicks. Well,

29:43

look, the Knicks

29:45

have a long way to go before they could even think

29:47

about getting any free agents. And

29:50

you know, Yannis has the opportunity this summer

29:52

to extend for you know,

29:54

we'll see how it happens with the salary cap,

29:56

but for more than two hundred millions. But

29:59

I will say that I think Jason Kidd

30:02

and Jim Dolan have a really good relationship,

30:05

and Jason has been interested

30:08

in going back there. Remember he played there one year

30:10

at the end of his career and was a transformational

30:12

figure. So I still think it's Tom Tibodeau's

30:15

job, but

30:18

I think the Knicks could do a lot to

30:20

help themselves with free agents, that is,

30:22

outside of some coach

30:25

they have a connection to. They have done a

30:27

horrible job for the last ten years

30:29

on this. Their decisions, specifically

30:31

Jim Dolan's decisions in the last month

30:33

to six weeks have been very damaging.

30:36

If anybody thinks that they're going to fix that by

30:38

just hiring a coach who happens to no a star player,

30:41

that's a little bit easy. Can the commission so

30:43

the commissioner have any power over that franchise?

30:46

Bryan, He's tried.

30:49

He's tried. He's gone to people in the franchise.

30:52

I mean, I don't think he made would ever admit to

30:54

this, but because it's you know, it's

30:57

not sort of deemed stare, but he has

30:59

gone to people in the franchise and said, what

31:02

can the NBA do to

31:04

help the Knicks? And

31:06

the thing about Jim Dolan, you know, the more people

31:08

I talked to have worked for Jim Dolan. A

31:11

lot of them really like him. But

31:13

Jim Dolan has a blind spot

31:16

and that he's got horrible judgment

31:19

and he's over the years hired people to

31:21

help him with that judgment, but he doesn't

31:23

listen to him. And so you

31:26

can't help a guy who won't help himself.

31:29

David Stern tried. David Stern got him

31:31

to hire Donnie Walsh.

31:33

David Stern tried to get to hire other people and

31:35

make moves. Adam Silver has tried. You

31:38

can't force the guy into making good

31:40

decisions. You can only help him. He won't accept

31:42

the help. You have.

31:45

Somebody hire advisors to help you,

31:47

and then you don't listen to the advisors

31:49

that you're I mean, it's crazy.

31:52

Didn't didn't David Stern help the Knicks once

31:54

where he fixed the lottery so they could get Patrick Ewing.

31:56

I mean, that's what we need to do. And I'm joking.

31:58

I'm joking. He's up in been yelling at me right

32:00

now. Let me tell you something. I don't

32:03

know what happened back then, but I can tell

32:05

you last year, when the Lakers

32:08

and Nicks were in the lottery the same

32:10

final four to get jah

32:12

at Zion and they ended up three

32:14

and four, and New Orleans and Memphis ended

32:16

up one and two. All lottery

32:19

conspiracy died that night. I'm

32:22

gonna tell you right now, yes, and I

32:25

oh boy, if you ever wanted to get Commissioner's

32:27

stern going, who do not

32:29

bring up that lottery was fixed with Patrick

32:31

Ewing. That was good time for him.

32:34

Hey, Brian, good luck with everything. A great

32:36

job. We appreciate your time and thanks

32:39

for joining us. Thanks Dan having

32:41

a good day. That's Brian Windhorst, ESPN,

32:43

Senior NBA writer. He didn't

32:46

paint a real positive picture there,

32:49

but he painted a realistic

32:52

picture. And that's what we need to hear. You

32:55

need to hear a realistic picture because

32:57

there will be some

33:00

potholes here. They're going to be some speed

33:02

bunk, there will be roadblocks here, They're

33:05

going to be issues. This is not going to be smooth

33:07

for any of these sports. And you

33:09

could have a star player, imagine

33:12

a star player. Now

33:14

you might say, well, they're quarantine, so who are they going to

33:16

come in contact with. Hopefully nobody.

33:18

Hopefully everybody gets tested and then if

33:21

somebody test positive, they get quarantine. And then

33:23

everybody stays on campus

33:25

and nothing happens. But imagine

33:27

if a team wins a series because

33:31

a player tested positive, or a couple

33:33

of players tested positive, or a forfeit.

33:36

I mean, I know it sounds crazy,

33:39

but this is crazy. If

33:41

I would have told you back in March, get ready,

33:43

you would have said, I

33:46

have a friend who works for the FBI,

33:49

and he's the one that told me, hey,

33:51

things might get back to normal

33:54

in June, and he works

33:56

in New York City. He said, we're preparing

33:59

for the word first subway shut

34:01

down, like he told me. All of these

34:03

things, hospitals overrun,

34:06

things that he told me happened, and

34:08

he said, we hope to get back to

34:11

normal in June. Paulie

34:14

just sent me this picture of the Joker with

34:18

Djokovic. Oh

34:20

my god, this is one week ago and they're hugging

34:22

each other. Oh

34:27

boy, and Djokovic

34:30

just tested positive for the coronavirus. All

34:34

right, we'll take a break here. That

34:36

was good, good appearance by Brian Winhorse. A lot of information

34:39

there, But yeah, I would not be hiring

34:41

Jason Kidd if I thought

34:43

I was gonna If it's based off getting

34:45

the Greek freak, I would hire Jason

34:47

Kidd because maybe he'll

34:49

have a style and he's

34:52

gonna get some free agents. If you don't get free

34:54

agents, then this

34:57

is futile. They

35:01

don't get any free agents. Nobody

35:03

wants to go there. But

35:05

if I get a coach who has his style

35:08

that's fun, that is exciting,

35:11

then maybe that's different. But

35:14

right now, hiring Jason

35:16

Kidd because you think you're gonna get

35:18

the Greek freak like that, doesn't that sound

35:21

just like the Knicks? Hey, why did you hire

35:23

him? Well, at the time, we thought we

35:25

were getting a Greek freak. M Okay,

35:28

Yeah, that didn't go well. Yeah, yeah,

35:31

but we tried. Yeah. You go back a couple

35:33

of years ago when they brought in David Fisdale after

35:35

he was bounced from Memphis. Everyone lauded the next thing,

35:37

Hey, this is the right guy, he's a player's coach, this

35:39

is the way to get free agents. There, good point, but

35:41

the problem was Dolan

35:44

was still there. They couldn't overcome their owner. When

35:47

Durant says, it's not the Knicks aren't cool

35:51

and and you're you're not relevant

35:54

with these players, you know

35:56

that's the sad part of this. We'll

35:59

take a break. I'm back after this and The Dan Patrick

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The Dan Patrick Show. All

36:20

righty, we have it's

36:23

not controversy, but it

36:25

could be. We had the big match between

36:28

Mario and Tyler the moderator

36:30

and a shower shame. That was last

36:32

Friday. Mario lost. They

36:34

played nine holes and there

36:38

was a moment where Mario

36:41

was in the fescue and he

36:44

took a couple of swings but he missed

36:46

the ball. But he said he was practicing,

36:49

and I think once you would dress the ball, hello

36:51

ball and you swing. That's

36:54

a stroke. But Paulie going

36:56

back and looking at the tape one

36:59

to know if that was true.

37:02

Mario lost by I think three

37:04

strokes. Now he's saying

37:07

that it shouldn't count. I don't

37:09

know if it did count. I

37:11

just know he was in there and

37:14

the fescue was up to his knees and he

37:16

whiffed a couple of times. Yes, Pully. I

37:18

check with a couple of golf people and a few

37:20

golf websites, and they said, once

37:22

you are done, practice swinging

37:24

and addressed the ball, and it's a judgement

37:26

call. And you appear to be swinging to hit the ball. If

37:29

you whiff, that counts as a stroke.

37:31

If the ball falls off the tee, then

37:34

that's a different story. But if you address

37:36

the ball and you just don't make contact with it,

37:38

that's a stroke. Yeah, I

37:40

mean to me, it was. There was no controversy.

37:43

In fact, I think Mario didn't

37:45

count some strokes he should have lost

37:47

by more than that. But then Mario pointed

37:49

out that Tyler, the moderator whiffed

37:52

on one of his swings as well. It

37:55

was ugly. And I

37:57

know that the Tyler and Seaton Dylan

38:00

who does graphics, and Mario

38:03

are gonna maybe go play tomorrow. And then

38:05

they said do you want to go? And I go, good God, no, No,

38:09

I couldn't witness that again. Yeah, and

38:11

I'm not busy, I don't have anything going

38:13

on. I just

38:16

I can't watch that again. Like

38:19

I want to golf with golfers,

38:21

not these guys. But

38:24

I thought It was a stroke of genius puntended

38:27

on my part to put Tyler, the moderator

38:29

and Mario in the cart together,

38:32

and there was some real tension there they

38:35

it got bad. So Mario is in

38:37

the middle of a part par five and

38:40

we had talked about maybe do we cap the score

38:42

to double bogey and I thought no, it'd be more entertaining

38:44

if they put up like, you know, a

38:47

snowman or you know, maybe double

38:49

digits like that would be good and it would keep everybody,

38:52

you know, in the mix they're trying to win. And

38:55

that's what happened. So Mario is on a par five.

38:57

I think he's lying nine

39:00

in the fairway and he says, are

39:03

we are we capping our scores?

39:05

And I go, well, the answer is no,

39:07

and you can't ask me in the middle of a hole.

39:10

Then you have a nine already.

39:12

And then he put up a twelve. When

39:14

he put up a Brady, I went, wow,

39:17

this is good because if he would

39:19

have had a seven, then that's different

39:21

because he put up a twelve and I think a

39:23

ten. Yeah, Paul, I've never

39:26

seen worst golf etiquette on a golf course. By

39:28

the way, people were parking their carts in front

39:30

of the path of a person. While I was getting ready to chip,

39:32

people were walking over each other's lines. People

39:34

were not away and they were hitting

39:37

well. Tyler picked up his ball because

39:40

he thought it was a gimme yeah, like

39:42

three feet away. And then Mario did it and

39:44

Tyler goes no, no, no no, and

39:46

he said, wait, you did it on a previous

39:49

hole. And then Tyler goes hey, and

39:51

I said, well, you can't do that. If

39:53

there's a rematch, I would like to hire a rules

39:55

official. All that rules

39:57

official would quit. Oh, but he would. I

40:00

think that person would enjoy themselves. Yeah,

40:02

Bubba Wallace will join us on the program tomorrow

40:05

at first hour, nine twenty five. Yeah, setn

40:07

con Why are you not allowed to ground your club

40:09

in the bunker before you hit to

40:12

give you an advantage? I guess like

40:16

you normally have the club grounded

40:18

when you're going to hit a shot from the fairway, And

40:20

I think it's a comfort level. There's uh,

40:23

I don't. It doesn't bother me when I get in the bunk. You

40:25

know, when you're in the bunker a lot. I become

40:28

a really good bunker player. It's because

40:30

I'm in the bunker. People get in there and

40:32

they don't like you're it's

40:34

uncomfortable for you. But I think just because

40:37

you ground it, you can put the club right behind

40:40

the ball and it feels like you're going to hit it. But

40:42

I think that that's the answer. Yeah, Paul, there

40:44

really isn't a why. They just say it's a rule. I

40:46

looked up a couple of places they really do it. They said

40:48

it's a hazard the bunker, so

40:51

you can't ground your club to test the condition

40:53

of the said hazard. Said hazard?

40:56

Who right? Who talks know

40:59

where to now here?

41:01

Too? Four? Yes? McLevin, Yeah,

41:05

I'm so bad at all this. They asked me

41:07

to play Dan they

41:09

did, Yeah, Tyler and Mario like, why don't

41:11

you come out with us? Because can you imagine if he's

41:13

getting a twelve, what would I get? I'd

41:16

have to cap your score. Yeah, I'd have

41:18

to cap your score. But there was a moment

41:20

where both of these knuckleheads are in the fescue

41:23

and they didn't even know what fescue was, and

41:25

maybe it's not even fescue. I just love saying

41:28

it. But they spent so much time in the fescue,

41:32

and then they're both swinging and whiffing,

41:34

and I'd laughed, I blurted

41:36

out, you know, some kind of laughter.

41:40

But I don't want to see that ever again. Never.

41:43

Darius Rucker will join us. More of your phone

41:46

calls coming up as well. Two hours in the books,

41:48

one more to go.

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