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Two best tight ends in the NFL cashed in

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yesterday. Niners George Kittle,

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the Chiefs Travis Kelsey, signing hefty

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contract extensions and getting

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paid significantly more than other

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players at their position. And

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they're both unstoppable. They're worth

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the money. They're too fast for linebackers

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to cover, too big for defensive backs. Kittle

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and Kelsey followed the tradition of other all

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time elite tight ends, you know, the likes

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of Rob Gronkowski, Tony Gonzalez, Kevin

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Winslow, just to name a few. And it's

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good to see players at that position and

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a position that's not traditionally rewarded,

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get rewarded. And usually tight ends

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are on the low end of the spectrum, like running backs

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in safeties, but not the case here.

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You know, the receivers and pass rushers

0:53

make a lot more. The Niners and Chiefs

0:55

loaded with talent, and Kittle

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and Kelsey present unique challenges for defenses,

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and they both put their teams in great

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position to be back at this

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year's Super Bowl. I was wondering

1:07

about the age of Kelsey though getting

1:09

this contract, because Kittle is younger.

1:12

But Kelsey will be thirty six

1:15

when this contract expires. But

1:17

we've seen players at that position

1:19

still perform at a high level around that age.

1:22

Tony Gonzalez from age thirty

1:24

three to thirty seven caught four hundred

1:26

more than four hundred pounces. Antonio

1:29

Gates, Jason Witten, Shannon

1:31

Sharpe also very productive at

1:33

that age. And Kelsey right

1:35

now is thirty doesn't miss games. I think he's

1:37

missed one game since twenty thirteen,

1:40

since his rookie season. One game at

1:42

that position. You've got

1:44

everything in place there for the Kansas City Chiefs.

1:47

You know you got your best defensive player, Chris Jones

1:49

locked up, Mahomes is locked up,

1:52

and now you have Travis Kelsey locked

1:54

up as well Tyron

1:56

Matthew. The question

1:58

is are you going to be able to lock up other players

2:01

because you're going to be paying Patrick

2:03

Mahomes a half billion dollars, we

2:06

might look back on that deal. In fact, I'll make

2:08

your prediction, we'll look back on the Mahomes

2:10

deal and barring

2:12

injury, and say that the Chiefs got a

2:14

bargain, which sounds

2:17

really strange to say you're

2:19

going to pay somebody a half a billion dollars

2:21

over the next twelve years and say they're

2:23

going to get a bargain. But and

2:26

less Mahomes gets injured, then

2:29

I think you're going to look back and say, Wow, they got

2:31

him for that price. It's the same thing that happened

2:33

with Bryce Harper. You know, Bryce Harper

2:35

kept waiting, waiting, where's he going?

2:39

You know, Scott Boris's agent is trying to leverage,

2:41

trying to get you know, two teams in and then

2:44

Philadelphia signs him to what a twelve

2:46

or thirteen year deal And at the time, we

2:48

go, gosh, do you want to I don't

2:50

want to sign up somebody that amount

2:53

of time. Five years would

2:55

be the most that I want to invest in somebody, just

2:57

because of the unpredictability of sports

3:00

and injury. But

3:02

Philadelphia, they had to give him that money

3:04

to get him. I don't think that was his top choice.

3:07

But Bryce Harper goes to Philadelphia, and we

3:09

might look back on that contract and saying

3:12

they got a bargain with that. Maybe

3:15

the Angels got a bargain with Mike Trout.

3:17

We get stunned by those numbers, like

3:19

Garrett Cole three hundred million

3:22

dollars. Okay,

3:24

would I want to spend that kind of money. No,

3:27

but it's not my money. But

3:29

if that's the going rate or that's what you

3:31

had to pay to get somebody, the

3:33

Yankees haven't won, it's been a

3:35

while, this would be this would serve as

3:37

a drought for the Yankees. And

3:40

you've got Garrett Cole, and they needed

3:43

Garrett Cole because that pitching staff

3:45

is suspect, and I think that'll

3:47

be the reason they win or don't win a World

3:49

Series this year. If the pitching

3:51

staff somehow is consistent and Garrett

3:53

Cole is dominant, then

3:56

you know they can win. But if not, then

3:58

they're not going to win the World Series and it would be just on

4:01

their pitching. So they did spend, maybe

4:03

overspent to get Garrett Cole, but

4:05

sometimes you have to do that. You

4:07

know, the Angels overspend for Albert Poohle's

4:10

that didn't work out well. Now you got

4:12

the tale, you know, the second half of a Hall of Fame

4:14

career. But if they got in maybe four

4:16

or five years earlier, then maybe it

4:19

would have turned out differently. But

4:21

you look at these contracts and the enormity

4:23

of them, like Kirk Cousins.

4:25

Nobody talks about kirk Cousins contract anymore.

4:27

But at the time we went he got it all guaranteed,

4:30

kirk Cousin. And then, well,

4:32

everybody's going to get guaranteed money. Now,

4:35

you know George Kittle, do they overpay? I

4:38

don't know. You might look back and say you got a bargain

4:40

here with George Kittle. Yeah, mcclub. We

4:42

were wondering how do the Chiefs afford everybody

4:44

they've had, like every major signing

4:47

over the last two years.

4:49

Is everyone else getting minimum? Ways? Well, I don't know how

4:51

they're pulling it off here. I And that's tricky

4:54

where the most valuable person on

4:56

your team is the guy who is

4:59

the capologist, Like, how do

5:01

you make all of this work? How

5:03

do I get this person to come in? And now you're

5:05

gonna hope that some players are gonna

5:07

want to go and play with the Chiefs the

5:09

way players wanted to go play for the Patriots

5:12

and Tom Brady and get a chance at a super

5:14

Bowl. If you're just joining

5:16

us, we gotta pull question. Mclevan would you do the

5:18

honors please? We put up for our one

5:20

who would you buy stock in the Phoenix Suns

5:22

or the New Orleans Pelicans? Actually the Pelicans

5:24

one fifty seven percent? Yeah, that's dude

5:26

to Zion. Yeah, but I you know, you gotta

5:29

maybe a coach in

5:31

a state of flux there and Alvin Gentry

5:34

brandon ingram restricted free agent Lonzo

5:36

Ball was that that was disappointing

5:39

because I really I love

5:42

when he plays at his high level.

5:45

He's really fun to watch. He plays defense,

5:48

you know, his shot became at least respectable,

5:51

and then all of a sudden he just

5:53

mailed it in in the bubble. He didn't want

5:55

he did not want to be there, certainly

5:58

gave that impression. And then Ion,

6:00

as you move along at his age,

6:02

you're always going to be holding your breath. Can

6:06

he stay healthy? And Phoenix

6:08

doesn't have enough yet? I mean, we look at

6:10

Booker. Monty Williams is an elite

6:12

coach in my opinion, DeAndre

6:14

Eighton is not. He's not

6:16

my kind of big man. And the

6:18

fact you missed out on Luca don Chick, that's

6:21

going to follow you forever. Every

6:25

time you see Luca don Chick putting up

6:27

great numbers. The Sacramento Kings or

6:29

Hawks, Phoenix

6:32

Suns have to be going or

6:34

somebody goes, oh, did you see what Don Chick did? Lies? No,

6:37

what did he do? Thirty four, twenty

6:39

and fourteen? Yeah,

6:42

Bolling, going back to that draft two eighteen,

6:45

I was the biggest Marvin Bagley guy. I thought

6:47

Bagley was the short thing, fantastic

6:49

offensive player here alone inside outside,

6:52

he's Averton like fourteen and seven. There's

6:54

nothing wrong with that. It's not just not that right.

6:56

Yeah, there's nothing right about it. There's nothing

6:58

wrong but fourteen and whatever, fourteen

7:01

and eight, going that high and your

7:03

boy Shay Gilgus Alexander, I think I

7:05

think I got there. He was the eleventh pick of the draft,

7:07

and now he's starting to really come to his own. I think

7:09

he's got He's like Pascal

7:11

Siakam that you don't notice

7:14

him because of the other players on his team,

7:16

and then all of a sudden he's gonna he's

7:18

emerging. There, he's

7:21

emerging. You look at all this Kentucky talent,

7:24

right, these

7:26

guys who committed the NBA, and you're

7:28

not quite sure how good they are, and all of a sudden,

7:30

you're going wow, coach

7:32

Calle Perry had a lot of talent went through there

7:34

and only one national title. Yeah.

7:37

Remember the guy we thought was gonna be awesome, Kevin

7:39

Knox out of Kentucky, big kid swing man.

7:41

He had that huge preseason game for the

7:43

Knicks. He was the ninth pick of the draft for the Knicks.

7:46

He's averaging ten points for his game.

7:48

He's a nice player. But everyone's like,

7:50

oh, and the Knicks got a guy. Yeah,

7:53

but they they've had

7:55

some questionable draft picks there. I mean

7:57

RJ Barrett. I thought RJ Barrett

7:59

was gonna come in and probably get twenty two

8:01

a game and he might

8:04

turn out to be that kind of player. I just thought,

8:06

that's an offensive minded guy and

8:08

he's gonna come in and put up some decent numbers.

8:10

But when you go fourteen and five for the Knicks, fourteen

8:12

points, five rebounds, that ain't cutting it, man. Yes,

8:16

McLevin, it's this unfair. Well, we do to draft

8:18

picks where you're just defining Marvin Bagley

8:20

by Luca don Chick like in the NFL,

8:22

like Rubisky, he's always gonna have mahone. No, it's

8:24

not fair, but it is reality

8:27

where the Bears passed up

8:30

not one, but two I think future

8:32

Hall of Fame they traded up to

8:35

pass on two future Hall

8:37

of Fame quarterbacks and Deshaun Watson and Patrick

8:39

Mahomes. So sorry, PAULI

8:42

I've done a good job on a Friday. Sorry, yeah,

8:44

seed, But I mean, just looking at

8:46

this year, brandon Ingram was a

8:49

failure up until this year, and now everybody

8:51

loves him. Like I knew this guy was going to be something,

8:53

but he struggled to get his sort of sea

8:55

legs under him. Why why don't we give he should

8:57

be a lesson that we should give kids a little more time.

9:00

Well, he showed signs with the Lakers

9:02

that he was really good, and

9:04

then it was Reggie Miller who said he doesn't

9:06

do well in a big city, and then he went to

9:09

New Orleans. But you have to go out of your

9:11

way to watch New Orleans when Zion wasn't

9:13

playing, nobody's watching New Orleans.

9:16

He's a really good player, and

9:19

maybe he is a Kevin Durant type player.

9:21

But he showed signs with the

9:23

Lakers. Yes he but speaking

9:26

like that sort of speaks to that the fit of

9:28

the team has to be right for the individual player.

9:30

Like it

9:32

could be possible that not all of the Knicks

9:35

draft picks are bad. Maybe

9:38

they're just in a really crappy situation. Bad

9:40

could be true. Bad could be true

9:43

if and you know, I thought

9:46

Zion, if Zion ended up there and then

9:48

all of a sudden, Kevin Durant and Kyrie

9:50

are going to go to the Knicks. And of course

9:53

none of that happened. Also, people

9:55

have looked at the Nets and how hard

9:57

they've played during the bubble, and

10:00

you know, so now you're going, Wow, imagine

10:02

when Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving come back

10:05

with these players, these scrappy players.

10:07

Well, I

10:10

don't know if I agree with that, because remember

10:12

the Celtics with Kyrie, when Kyrie went

10:14

down and all of a sudden, Jaalen Brown, Jason

10:17

Tatum, Rogier, they played

10:19

better when he was gone. I

10:21

think he might stunt the growth of quite

10:24

a few of these young players with the Nets when

10:26

he comes back. Yes, Paul, and a quick

10:28

one for you, Dan. This made upset mclove And

10:30

going back to the twenty sixteen draft, the top two

10:32

picks are Ben Simmons out of LSU and brandon

10:34

Ingram at a duke right now? Who would

10:36

you add to your roster? O mclovin.

10:42

I'm not paying ninety million for either, not

10:45

if I have to have one

10:47

of them, I would take Ingram

10:49

now, but I don't think he's worth a max.

10:51

I think he screws up your team, So

10:53

I wouldn't want either. Well, you have

10:56

to pay the max. Someone's

10:58

gonna get stuck with those guy. I don't think

11:01

I would take England, but I don't really want either.

11:03

I mean, what happened to England? Does he play any defense?

11:06

And now all anymore? I don't know.

11:08

Zion doesn't play any defense. No, I

11:10

know that's why the Pelicans got outside

11:13

so badly. Although Ben Simmons does play defense,

11:16

he's considered it. I don't

11:18

know if he's a great two way player because it's the

11:20

other the other end of the court. I

11:22

still have my questions about Ben Simmons on

11:24

the offensive ent. Did the Sectors have any

11:26

chance out here and Bubble? Remember Mannix had them

11:28

in the finals. Well, but you got

11:30

Simmons injured and it's I

11:33

don't know. This roster this year is

11:35

not better than roster they had last year. Lowest

11:37

field goal percentage in the bubble, Lonzo

11:41

Ball come on down thirty percent,

11:44

Mark is Smart thirty two percent,

11:47

and Robert Covington thirty

11:50

three percent. So, Lonzo

11:54

Ball, you can't shoot thirty percent when you

11:56

have the ball in your hands that much, you can't

11:59

be a horrible shooter. And

12:02

I thought he was. He'll

12:06

end up with a Nicks, right, they'll put Lonzo

12:09

and his Lamello on there. Yes,

12:11

McLevin. I mean some of these guys were talking about,

12:13

like it's about time they step up. I think

12:15

Lonzo's twenty two, Now, Ingram's twenty

12:18

two, they've had their shot in the Tatum's

12:20

twenty two. It's now or never. These

12:23

guys should be seniors, and we're evaluating. Oh,

12:26

I know, I know they're so young. I

12:28

know. Did you know Ingram's twenty two, Luca's

12:31

like twenty,

12:34

I know, But if

12:36

they played two or three years, we feel like, okay,

12:39

that's enough time to prove if you're good or not. Meanwhile,

12:42

it used to be you waited till somebody was around

12:45

twenty five. Where you go, Okay, I got a pretty

12:47

good idea how good this person is? All?

12:49

Right? Age seven seven three d p show email

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address DPT dan Patrick dot com. We'll

12:53

talk to HERM Edwards, the Arizona State

12:55

head football coach. He'll join us. Coming

12:58

up. Mark Emritt Merge

13:00

from his foxhole or

13:02

bunker or wherever it was, and he

13:04

had a zoom call. He's the president of

13:07

the NCAA.

13:10

He announced the NCAA has made it clear it's

13:12

not safe to play football because it canceled

13:14

the FCS Division one or Division

13:16

two and Division three seasons,

13:18

but the other football

13:21

season will continue. So the

13:23

Division two and Division three seasons are

13:25

not safe. And the FCS, the

13:27

nc double A, by the way, has very little

13:29

jurisdiction over the acc SEC

13:32

in Big twelve because keep in mind,

13:35

that's not an ncuble A trophy that

13:37

they hand out. They hand out that crystal

13:39

football. That's some sponsored

13:41

football. And

13:44

I wonder, and I'm trying to get information

13:46

on this at least today, of how

13:48

are they going to bubble eze the

13:52

nuble a march madness And

13:54

that was the term that was used given to

13:57

me. You know that they're trying to bubble

13:59

eze the term tournament. And I said, well,

14:01

how do you how do you have a season?

14:04

How do I get to the point where I get my sixty

14:06

eight teams, do I go off last

14:09

season? That doesn't

14:11

seem right. I

14:13

don't know how you do that. If you're gonna have basketball,

14:16

you're gonna have a half a season of basketball,

14:19

How are you going to do March Madness? Because that's

14:22

NCAA money right there, that's

14:25

your big ticket item. And

14:28

if you're if you're pushing out college

14:31

football this season with the sec ACC

14:33

in Big twelve, you can bet

14:36

damn sure they're going to do everything

14:38

they can to bubble lize March

14:41

Madness. You've

14:43

got billions of dollars here. And

14:47

that's the reason why there's

14:49

college football. With the sec ACC

14:51

in Big twelve. They have the money

14:53

to test, they have the money to

14:55

be able to quarantine, they have the money

14:58

to be able to hire doctors, medical stamps.

15:00

You know, the women's volleyball can't do

15:03

that. Softball

15:05

can't do that, wrestling,

15:07

baseball can't do that. That's

15:10

why you're seeing this. You know,

15:12

these other schools, the Mid American Conference,

15:14

they can't afford this. The Mountain West, they can't

15:16

afford this. That's the reason why they're

15:19

not playing football. Because if you could

15:21

afford all that testing, then

15:23

you would probably have football in some

15:25

of these other conferences. Look

15:28

at where we are now to where we were on Monday,

15:31

really amazing. It

15:33

feels like a lot has happened, and

15:35

it has. And I

15:37

still get the feeling that we might see

15:39

some of these schools, not every school

15:42

in these three conferences I think,

15:44

will be playing football. And

15:48

that's just a gut feeling. I have no information

15:50

on that, just a gut feeling. Now,

15:53

there is a sense of fragile

15:57

to this right now, there's a there's

16:00

a tentative feel like it's holding your breath.

16:02

Let's just get there and get that first game

16:04

that you know, third week in September.

16:07

Let's just get that game going. Let's just

16:09

start it. And as a

16:11

former coach said to me last night, if

16:13

they could start the season today, they'd start the

16:15

season today. Let's just start

16:17

it and get it going, like major

16:20

League Baseball, just start it and then

16:22

we'll figure it out along the way. And Baseball

16:24

still hasn't figured that out, and

16:27

that's going to be a mess too. The

16:30

Cardinals, how do they make up all

16:32

these games? They've

16:34

played five games, the

16:38

Cubs have played twenty.

16:41

At some point baseball has to punish

16:43

the Cardinals and the Marlins

16:46

because you're hurting the other teams who

16:48

did it the right way.

16:50

And I don't know what you do, because

16:54

the Cardinals still have to play these games

16:56

against these other teams so they can

16:58

reach the required number, like what

17:00

is going to be you must get to fifty

17:03

games. I

17:06

don't know what you do. You make the Cardinals go

17:08

on the road the whole time, that's where their

17:10

problems started. On the road.

17:14

We're gonna go to a casino. But

17:17

I don't know how you punish those teams if

17:20

they don't abide by the rules. All

17:23

right, Herm Edward's going to join his Arizona State

17:25

head coach. What did he tell his team? Does he

17:27

think there's gonna be spring football? Because

17:29

as I pointed out last hour, if

17:32

you're thinking about the Big Ten playing football in

17:35

January and February, in

17:37

those conditions, in those

17:39

cities, that weather,

17:42

and you're gonna be going into

17:45

your last season being draft eligible, there's

17:47

gonna be a lot of players who are not gonna want play an en. I

17:50

don't think abas thought about what it's like in Columbus,

17:54

less Lafayette, an Arbor Madison.

17:58

When it's January or February,

18:00

it's a little bit different than September and October

18:03

and even November. We'll take a

18:05

break. Phone calls coming up, we'll get

18:07

to those, and Todd

18:09

Gurley of the Falcons is going to join

18:11

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Grizzlies last spot in the West. They

19:34

play on Saturday.

19:38

Cardinals had played five games, Cubs

19:41

had won nine to ten, and Mark

19:43

Emmer at the NCAA President appeared

19:46

via zoom yesterday. No championships

19:48

for fall. NCAA sports.

19:51

Speaking of football, is the head coach at Arizona

19:54

Stake Good to welcome back herm Edwards. How

19:56

are you doing, coach? I'm doing fine,

19:58

my friend. And I'm looking at your your

20:01

studio there, and I'm realizing

20:03

that you have a lot of memorable view you there

20:06

right now. I'm watching it all and

20:08

I'm looking at all the new things you have. But I

20:10

can tell you this now, you're a pretty good collector

20:12

of that stuff. I understand you don't have

20:15

one of these a

20:18

Herm Edwards bobble doll, bubble

20:20

head. And now this

20:22

is don't dat us. You don't

20:25

have this, Oh

20:27

where you pick up the fumble, the

20:29

Pisarchic fumble. I

20:32

never saw that one. Herm yeah,

20:35

look ahead. Somebody somebody gave this

20:37

to him as unbelievable. I said, really

20:40

is okay, I'll take it. One

20:42

of the great moments. Well, it was a great

20:44

moment for you in NFL history. But that gave

20:47

you immortality, right,

20:49

kept me, that kept that kept me a cart

20:54

by the way, and that's when we

20:56

taking a knee was invented because of

20:59

that play. The missed hand off by Joe Pisarchick

21:01

too, that was Larry Zunka. Yes, it

21:03

was Larry Zunka correct. Oh my god.

21:06

Nineteen seventy eight, ranging

21:09

ourself, partner, wag do you

21:11

have that football? I do? I

21:14

have that one? And I give you the next one I have. I've

21:16

got a obviously a few, but that was an

21:18

important but I give you one. It was most important. My

21:20

first NFL interception was against

21:22

the Los Angeles Rams in the Coliseum

21:25

and the quarterback was Joe Namath. Here

21:27

you go. You

21:31

know, Joe is such a great guy. He'd probably

21:33

signed that if you asked him to. Yeah,

21:36

here's a great story. So I get it. It's

21:38

my rookie year. We played a RAMS

21:40

and I intercept the ball and I take it to the sideline

21:43

and they put the tape on it. Right, So the game

21:45

ends, we're walking out of the coliseum. I have the ball.

21:47

I'm a rookie now, first NFL in reception and

21:50

I'm walking and I see Joe he's in front of us,

21:52

and I said, that's a couple of bits. You think

21:55

he'd autographs. Yeah,

22:00

probably not right after the game, but if you saw

22:02

Joe right now, yeah, Joe would

22:04

probably do it. Did

22:07

you So every interception you had you

22:10

kept? No, I mean

22:12

no, because I've had a thirty

22:14

three and regular and another five in playoffs.

22:17

At about thirty eight of them. Yeah, no, but

22:19

the special ones, you know, situations,

22:22

whatever it may be. But yeah, I've got a few. We

22:24

talked to Chip Kelly yesterday and he

22:26

was you know, it wasn't Chip Kelly the

22:28

coach, it was Chip Kelly the person where he

22:31

was just saying, look and I understand

22:33

it, and you know, we're in a hot spot

22:35

here and it's tough to be able to tell

22:37

these kids that we're not going to be playing football.

22:40

But there's bigger issues here. And

22:42

you know, you're a deep thinker, you're obviously

22:45

emotional. You know, when he first got

22:48

the word that you're not going to play football,

22:51

how long did it take before then you get together with

22:53

your team? It wasn't very long. They

22:55

knew, you know, they knew a decision was going to be made

22:58

because we were actually we've actually had walk

23:00

throughs, we've been meeting

23:02

all those things. And I told him when we get off the field

23:05

and we went to the field to have a walk through, I said,

23:07

we're gonna know something that's sure enough by

23:09

you know, one o'clock. I

23:12

had to address them and tell them the

23:14

news. And it was very difficult,

23:16

There's no doubt, and I think it's difficult for everyone

23:19

when you think about it. But you

23:21

know this is I said this to coach

23:23

Kelly, and maybe you could help me with this. Why

23:25

aren't we getting the medical community

23:27

in the acc SEC and

23:30

you know, the Big twelve together with

23:32

the Big ten and the PAC twelve, so

23:35

your doctors their doctors can

23:37

exchange information here her well,

23:40

you know that's a good question.

23:43

And I don't know if they've done that. I don't know how don't we

23:45

want to try to play armshare quarterback obviously,

23:47

but we knew going into this and

23:49

it was going to be led by our professionals,

23:51

our healthcare professionals. We knew that when this

23:54

thing started like five months ago, right, and

23:56

then we're going to give us a game plan. And

23:58

I think as it got closer than to having

24:01

to really go out and try to

24:03

participate in practice, we've had walkthroughs,

24:06

they've been players have been working out for two months,

24:08

but the but the practice

24:11

deal and then obviously with this

24:13

new thing about the heart and all that

24:15

that, all these things became a factor

24:17

when they said no and I said this, then, I

24:20

think every school has done a nice job

24:22

of really creating this bubble. That's the

24:24

big term now bubble. Right, Well, next

24:28

thursday we start school, a

24:31

whole different element comes in now, right

24:34

because because of the socialists of young

24:36

people, And how do you prevent that?

24:38

How do you It's it's hard, it's

24:40

hard, But do you even know what you're

24:42

allowed to do as you move forward in

24:44

the fall as a head coach? Well,

24:47

right now we're under the same

24:49

requirements we were before

24:52

we postponed, and the fact that you

24:54

had twenty hours. Now they will give us

24:56

a schedule. Speaking of schedules,

24:58

I've got a schedule. I've already mapped out until

25:01

Thanksgiving. What we

25:03

are going to try to do right and you got

25:05

to keep it interesting. You gotta keep players

25:07

engage, which is very tough along with coaches.

25:10

But that's that's what we got to try to do right now. But

25:12

why can't you practice and not play?

25:14

Well? We we

25:17

never practiced. It was walked

25:19

through, okay, not practice

25:21

okay. We were going to actually start practicing on the seventeen.

25:25

That never occurred. Do you think there's gonna be spring

25:27

football? Oh? I know

25:29

you're hoping, But I mean, you

25:31

know, there's a lot of balls to juggle here.

25:34

And I think a lot of people, you know,

25:36

are asking the question, how can they play like

25:39

a full season? I

25:41

would give them this if I was in sitting

25:43

in that seat trying to orchestrate this, and if it

25:45

came to fuition where we could play, I would

25:47

do this. In our conference. I would let to South play

25:50

against the South and North against the North. That

25:52

would give you five games and

25:54

then the winners of both those conferences play.

25:56

That would give you six and you could

25:58

crown a champion. Then

26:00

if you came back in the fall, you'd actually

26:02

played eighteen games. LSU played seventeen

26:05

games last year. Yeah, right, So

26:08

that way seniors

26:10

that played six games, it doesn't

26:13

counter. They could come back. They

26:15

could also leave to go to the draft. So

26:18

you would kind of help both parties there.

26:21

And I heard you earlier when you were talking

26:23

about, you know, people

26:25

playing like in the winter, then

26:28

you're right. I mean, all of a sudden, the Washington

26:30

schools, you look on your schedule, you know, our

26:32

schedule would be we play Utah and

26:34

Colorado, depending when we played them, We'd

26:36

be okay, right, if we Colorado

26:39

was here, we're good. You had to go

26:41

Utah that you'd only probably get one

26:43

cold game on our side. If it on the other side

26:45

of the Washington schools, the Oregon

26:47

schools, that gives you a little bit of a problem

26:49

with your Stanford maybe because you'd have to go on those

26:52

elements. If I don't

26:54

know, if your kids, your athlete said, hey,

26:56

why is the sec ACC and Big twelve

26:59

playing and we're not playing? Coach, right, I mean,

27:01

that's gonna be the question as me. And all

27:03

I told him is this, Look, we're gonna go by

27:05

the game plan of our physicians. That's what we gotta

27:07

do. And I said, we're not gonna play armchair

27:10

quarterback. And I'm not gonna try to do it. That's not my I

27:12

just gotta keep you guys hold. I gotta keep my coaching

27:15

staff hold. So I'm wishing them

27:17

a lot of luck, I really am. I'm

27:19

hoping they can get through it. That would be

27:21

fantastic. Um, but we'll just as

27:23

well as NFL. I'm god either.

27:26

I mean, we're gonna see this thing unfold. What

27:28

are you gonna do on Saturdays? Oh

27:30

boy, that's a good question. Yeah,

27:34

well I even got the Saturday

27:36

yet. I

27:39

don't know. I mean, you know, I

27:42

know this. I dealt with the

27:45

nine to eleven deal. I was the

27:47

head coach of the Jets, my

27:49

first season of rookie head coach, and I dealt

27:51

with that, and I know how that was like whoa

27:54

right, It was one of those deals like are you kidding

27:56

me? Right? The unexpected? I

27:58

mean that it was truly the unexpected

28:01

and dealing with that for two weeks,

28:05

but then the emotion of when

28:07

we actually got to play again. We

28:10

played New England and New England, Dan,

28:12

I'll tell you what, it was unbelievable. I mean,

28:15

the national anthem, the flag, that's

28:17

just the whole deal man. There was

28:19

not a dry eye in the stadium. You

28:21

know, I'm looking forward

28:23

to that again. That's what I'm trying to

28:25

remember when we actually get back to play again.

28:28

That's my whole That's what it's going to look like. When

28:30

you coached against Belichick, and I always wonder

28:33

do you almost out coach yourself

28:35

in preparing to coach against

28:37

Belichick? Well, I think the thing that

28:40

Bill has done, you know, and he's a fantastic Hall

28:42

of Fame coach. Obviously, you always

28:44

have to understand that you have

28:46

to have the ability to adjust on

28:49

both sides of the ball. In other words, you could

28:51

come in with this plan of them, well they ran this front

28:54

defensively, right, and you're going, I'm gonna play

28:56

against this front, and all of a sudden you think it's the four or three

28:58

and you know, you

29:01

still we got a plan. But a

29:03

plant can't be changed is a bad plan. You change

29:06

the plan of the job. But you got

29:08

to know that figured out. So it's always a chess

29:10

game. But if you understand that going in,

29:12

you'll go be okay. But when you go against

29:15

Brady, yes, like there's nothing about

29:17

Brady that like you go, oh

29:19

my god. From the standpoint of the physical

29:22

aspect of it, you know, like there's other

29:24

people with better arms, obviously, more mobility,

29:26

like all of these things. So now it's

29:28

the thinking process of it

29:31

feels like it's harder to outthink somebody

29:34

who's maybe smarter than you than

29:36

it is to take on somebody

29:38

who has athleticism. No, and

29:40

and and and and Tom's and look,

29:44

I've always said we're the starter of

29:46

all this, of the Tom Brady

29:48

career, because I

29:50

was sitting there when we knocked out Butts

29:52

mo Lewis hid Bless and it comes

29:55

up, it comes this guy Tom Brady, and

29:57

it comes into game and we were in New England and we're

29:59

playing and you know, we ended up winning that game was

30:01

the most scoring game. And then he comes

30:03

back like three or four weeks later and they

30:06

play us, you know, and then you gotta watch him

30:08

go, oh, my

30:11

career not got to do with Captain America.

30:13

I'm gonna call did

30:15

you even have a scouting report on Tom Brady.

30:18

We did when he came out, you know, And

30:20

uh, it was funny because you know, it's like Scott.

30:22

It's funny because you look at scouting reports on that and

30:24

you go, hey, I get all that, but can the

30:26

guy play quarterback? And boy, can he play quarterback?

30:29

And I always tease you when I see him,

30:31

I saying, you know, I said, remember, we

30:33

gave I gave you this opportunity, man, Moe

30:37

Lewis should go into the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

30:40

and and and you know what, and and I

30:42

was a little bit I was I

30:44

don't know if I was surprised, but I

30:48

didn't know. I thought he might not

30:51

leave, you know, Oh

30:53

he was so unhappy. He just don't

30:55

wanted to have fun. But but I

30:57

thought he might be a guy that's just ends his career

31:00

there, you know, it's just but and I

31:02

start laughing. I said, look, if he wanted to go on

31:04

the boat and in his his own I said,

31:06

you know, I worked for Temple. I get him a pretty fast.

31:10

I think Brady just wanted to have fun.

31:13

And as strange as that may sound to people,

31:16

he was in a business. I mean

31:18

that I don't know. I just think

31:21

he wanted to, well, like, give me

31:23

some weapons here. He goes down there, all

31:25

of a sudden, I got weapons here. Well,

31:27

yeah, all of a sudden guys start coming out of retirement. But

31:30

I think, you know, with Bruce being down there,

31:32

Bruce arians and good friend and we coach together.

31:34

Can't say I'm known Bruce forever. And it's funny.

31:37

Bruce he was the head coach. He

31:39

was on the Temple staff when I was in Philly playing

31:42

about that. Oh well did we worked together

31:44

Kansas when Martin was a coach. He was running back

31:46

coach. Right, So you know, Bruce will

31:49

he'll you know, he will

31:51

relate, he'll do things that Tom probably likes,

31:53

you know, and like he said, Tom was there forever.

31:55

I mean, he's a legend in New England and all

31:57

that stuff and right, and so he deserves Yeah,

32:00

I just think he wanted to just exhale.

32:03

And you know, because it's always you

32:05

know, who's more important, Belichick or Brady,

32:07

and you know they're

32:09

both together hard to be. Well,

32:12

I want to see what are you interested

32:15

in? See what he does with Cam Newton? Yeah,

32:18

and uh, you know I covered Cam

32:20

in college when I was doing SEC games,

32:23

and I think this is one

32:25

of those moments that Cam

32:28

kind of likes because

32:30

people are probably saying, well, you know, it'll

32:33

be interested ship on his shoulder. Yeah,

32:36

kind of that deal, right, and they'll

32:39

they'll they'll use his talent now they

32:41

will have some design plays in there where all of a

32:43

sudden, he's running the ball, right, He's

32:46

coming at you with the ball in his hand. He tell you what

32:48

he's something about. Oh, it's

32:50

great to catch up with you. And uh,

32:52

you know, if you get lonely and you just you know, you

32:54

want to talk, then you know you can always

32:57

you can call me. We can zoom. Yeah,

32:59

I'm I'm available over the weekend too. Her.

33:02

We have the same era. We can go back to those

33:04

things when when you mentioned outside

33:06

when the I called him the Vikings

33:09

but they're not the real Vikings. And you you mentioned how cold

33:11

it was gonna be. I can remember going to play those

33:13

guys and Fran Targeted was a quarterback and

33:16

a mod Shot was a receiver and it was

33:18

it was it was so cold right and

33:21

day light and played dB for him.

33:23

He was he was a friend of mine. He comes by the hotel, said

33:25

hey, man, you know what, it's so cold. Frank got small

33:27

hands. He can't he can't throw the ball, these connetations.

33:29

I said, really, so I tell the defensive

33:31

life this

33:34

it is. He

33:37

goes back fifty too, tired with

33:44

his small hands in the cold

33:46

weather. We're outside, man,

33:50

I said, this ain't a fair fight. Oh

33:54

good h Well,

33:57

it's great to talk to you, and I appreciate your and

34:00

I love your enthusiasm. Man, Ben, good luck.

34:02

I know you got a lot a lot on your plate here coming up,

34:05

but good to check in with you. Thank

34:08

you. Man. That's HERM Edwards, Arizona State head

34:10

football coach. That's

34:15

why you do this job. You

34:18

get an opportunity to have somebody who shares

34:21

stories with you, that enthusiasm,

34:23

and look, you know, I

34:25

didn't know how positive he was going to be. I've

34:28

known him a long time. He's a positive

34:30

guy. But he's not playing football

34:32

this year, not coaching football.

34:34

And it's really going to hit home in a couple

34:37

of weeks. On those Saturdays, because your

34:39

body tells you something. Football

34:42

weather tells you something. It

34:44

always did for me. The smell

34:46

in the air, you just knew there's

34:49

football being played and

34:51

you're not going to have that in a lot of places around

34:54

the country. Yes, we were talking about

34:56

it this morning actually before the show, pulling

34:58

up in the parking lot and the Traeger

35:00

grill is on because it's Friday, and Allen's already out

35:02

there cooking, and we're like, man,

35:04

it smells like fall. Yeah, you know,

35:06

Tailgate season, one of those things. Yeah. Yeah,

35:09

we'll take a break. We'll talk to Todd Gurley. You'll

35:11

join us coming up top of the hour. That was a lot of

35:13

fun with herm a lot of fun. What

35:15

does he bring energy? And when

35:18

a guest is when

35:20

a guest tells you the story before

35:23

you even asked the story, makes

35:25

my job a whole lot easier. All Right, we'll take

35:27

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Brad. Sorry, I know you've been holding for a long

36:31

time. What's on your mind today? I'm

36:33

not a problem dB man. You guys

36:36

better put that interview

36:38

into your Emmy reel for next year

36:40

because that was fantastic. Man. He was

36:42

great. But anyways, quick

36:44

comment, then a question for you. My

36:46

comment is I worked for a company we're based

36:49

at a Columbus, Ohio and had

36:52

to travel up there for training last year. The

36:54

first week of November it was

36:56

seven degrees. There's no

36:58

way that they can pull off a

37:00

winner football season in

37:03

the Big ten in my opinion. But yeah, I

37:05

don't think so either. Yeah, what's your question. My

37:08

question for you is, and you know,

37:10

I know this is all fluid and everything's moving,

37:12

you know, hour by hour, but it does

37:14

seem like there is a little bit more stabilization

37:17

with the SEC, the SEC, the Big twelve.

37:19

But do you foresee

37:22

any chance that there would be enough

37:24

backlash from I don't have players

37:27

eighties fans that the

37:29

Big ten or the PAC twelve would backtrack

37:32

off of what they're doing if things continue

37:34

to stabilize with the conferences moving

37:37

forward. Anyway, all right, thank you, Brad,

37:39

you two have a good weekend. Now.

37:41

I think the ship is sail Pack

37:44

twelve Big Ten. They made their decision,

37:47

and I don't I don't think they're going to walk that

37:49

back right anytime soon. We're

37:52

going to hear from Dan Hicks of NBC

37:55

Golf, And I was watching

37:57

yesterday the US amateur and

38:00

the caddy on the final hole of

38:02

a match play. He the

38:06

player he's catting for, hits the ball in the bunker.

38:09

He goes in and is checking

38:12

almost the texture of the sand and

38:14

the depth of the sand, which you're not allowed

38:16

to do. And I quickly

38:19

said to the Dannet's channel two

38:21

eighteen because it was on golf channel, and

38:23

I said, I didn't even say I said to eighteen.

38:26

And it was playing out on live TV

38:29

where the caddy cost

38:32

his player his match

38:35

because it was all square they

38:37

were playing the eighteenth. The caddy for the

38:39

other players like, no, you touch the sand.

38:41

So you have you know, these guys

38:43

who rules officials who were

38:45

coming over an NBC golf

38:47

channel had an overhead

38:49

shot of the caddy in the

38:52

bunker and he was rubbing

38:54

it with his hand and he was denying it for about

38:56

five minutes. He's like, I did not I didn't touch that

38:58

sand, and of oh, this isn't going to end

39:01

well. And then next thing, you know, the

39:04

rules official hands the guy his

39:07

ball and says you won, and

39:09

he's like one goes yeah,

39:11

that you're not allowed to touch the sand and it costs

39:14

you. I've never seen anything like that before in my life.

39:16

And you had bones McKay,

39:19

Phil Mickelson's longtime caddy. He's

39:21

on the course, he's your course reporter.

39:25

And it's happening live and I go, oh my god,

39:28

if we can't get the caddy on, then you know, see

39:30

we get Dan Hicks or bones

39:33

on. Yeah. Paul, the player who's caddy had

39:35

the faults, Segundo Olivia Pinto. He

39:38

was like, it's over. He goes, he's not a

39:40

one stroke penalty goes. No, he goes, the hole

39:42

is over, so final Hall. He starts to taking

39:44

off his glove and his caddy goes to say

39:46

I'm sorry or explain himself or keep

39:48

denying, and it's like no, just

39:51

turn and starts walking. And he was like trying to keep his cool,

39:53

and the Golf channel kept the camera

39:56

on those two because you knew that they

39:58

had to. He was carrying his p or

40:00

his wedge with him, the golfer

40:02

was carrying his club, and that cat he

40:04

is keeping his distance with the golf bag, and

40:07

you knew eventually they were gonna stop, and

40:09

he was gonna they were gonna have a little conversation

40:11

there because he had to get the wedge back from him.

40:14

Yeah. Seaton, it was so interesting

40:16

too, was the player that ended up winning, how

40:19

awkward it was for him and

40:21

really like how disappointed he was that

40:23

it ended that way because you know, he wants

40:25

to play it out. He wants to play for real. He thought

40:27

it was going to be a stroke penalty. But it

40:30

was a very awkward moment for him, but interesting to

40:32

see how disappointed he was. Yeah, he was like,

40:34

you know, you don't want to win that way, but you

40:37

know those are the rules. Skip

40:39

in Texas, joins us high. Skip, what's on your

40:41

mind? Hey, buzz he

40:45

it is your captain here in Texas.

40:47

Let me know when you get that yacht. Okay,

40:51

I got an idea for this Ammy fiasco

40:54

T shirt idea for Seaton here instead

40:57

of leay miserab, let's go trade

40:59

Miserabum.

41:01

Wow, Skip, thank you. I

41:04

like it. Yeah, it's pretty good and it wasn't really

41:06

a fiasco in fairness

41:08

to the Emmy committee.

41:11

I mean, we put on a good show so

41:13

much so we've heard from the Emmy selection

41:17

show that they

41:19

somehow want to talk to us about what's

41:21

gonna happen next year. Do they want

41:23

us to host the Sports Emmys? I

41:26

don't know, but you know what, I

41:28

would need a Sports Emmy first.

41:31

Before I host a Sports Emmy. I'd

41:33

just say I'm into that okay, Yeah,

41:37

now they did the Emmy people reached

41:40

out to us after they saw what we did with our show

41:42

on YouTube. By the way,

41:44

it's on YouTube dot com Slunched the Dan Patrick

41:46

Show. If you want to see grown men cry,

41:52

let's see Jason in Michigan. Hey Jason,

41:54

what do you have for me? Hey?

41:57

Dan? A couple of NBA thoughts for you

41:59

that Belie, there's nets game was so entertaining

42:01

last night and being a Michigan guy, Karris Lavert

42:04

has really turned into a special

42:06

player. And speaking of Michigan guys,

42:08

our guy Duncan Robinson, do you see him last

42:10

night with Chris Paul or Chris Paul They

42:13

were chirping a little bit back and forth. Chris Paul grabbed

42:15

the ball, throws it off Duncan Robinson. Then next

42:17

play, Jimmy Butler gets the switch so he can run

42:19

over Chris Paul because you got to protect his guy, especially

42:21

as shooters. Yeah, we're gonna try to get Duncan

42:24

Robinson on again next week. And thanks for the phone

42:26

call. Yeah, Michigan you've got reason to

42:28

be proud. And with some of these guys, let

42:31

he's a good player. I'm curious

42:33

the roles that these guys will play when Kevin,

42:35

Duran and Kyrie come back. Final

42:37

Hour coming up, we'll talk to Dan Hicks,

42:40

NBC Golf and Todd

42:43

Gurley Falcon's Running Back. I saw

42:45

where Todd Gurley he bought his

42:47

house from. Who was the Twilight

42:49

Kid, Taylor Lawtoner, don't even try

42:51

it. I have never seen Twilight. I

42:54

have I've never seen

42:57

Robert Patton