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0:00

You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show

0:02

on Fox Sports Radio. Stay in

0:05

your lane. Now. The reason why I brought this up because I

0:07

didn't do anything on my vacation, nothing,

0:10

and I'm proud of that, except for one

0:12

night we got really crazy at my house.

0:15

I thought, why don't we get pizza from

0:18

all? Like, there's four pizza

0:20

places in New Haven that we go to, very

0:22

well known, Sally's, Peppes,

0:25

Modern Bar. And

0:28

I said to one of my daughters,

0:30

I said, how about you order them, go, get

0:32

them, bring them back, and then we'll have a contest.

0:35

We'll do a blind taste

0:38

test with all the pizza, and

0:40

then we rated it, you know, appearance

0:42

crossed, okay, you know all those things.

0:44

So that that's how crazy my

0:48

weekend, my week off, God, that

0:51

was crazy. And I had

0:53

a couple of beers with the pizza as well. I

0:55

left that out. But I've been told to

0:57

stay in my lane when it comes to pizza.

1:00

And they are great pizza places around America.

1:03

I'm just talking about if you're looking for pizza

1:05

and you go into New Haven, the odds

1:08

are you're gonna get a Now you don't get a

1:10

good slice. That's the that's the big downer

1:12

about the pizza New Haven. If

1:14

I go into New York of Brooklyn, I can get a slice

1:16

of pizza. True pizza places

1:18

don't sell slices. The high end ones in Brooklyn

1:20

and New York do not. Like Lombardies are

1:23

different places like that. In New York they do not sell slices.

1:26

The high end ones Grimaldi's like mclovin's

1:28

favorite, they don't sell slices. They

1:31

sell pizzas. But I like having

1:33

that slice.

1:35

Yeah, there's something great about a slice of pizza.

1:38

And also it depends on the brown

1:40

bag. Yeah, when you have the pizza

1:43

also factors in how good

1:45

you know at one in the morning that

1:47

pizza tastes so damn good man.

1:50

By the way, should we

1:52

send like Mario or somebody else

1:54

to get some pizza? Correct? Yes,

1:57

okay, how about Wednesday? We

2:00

have It's Pizza Wednesday.

2:05

You have to have a literation. I have no literation

2:07

there with pizza. We start Pizza Wednesday

2:09

on Monday because I know I'm kind

2:11

of hungry. Now, all right, all

2:14

right, so welcome to the program. Already in progress.

2:17

We talked to a Pat Forty from Sports

2:19

Illustrated. First hour about college

2:21

football season, and he's not very

2:23

optimistic that we're going to get this thing started

2:26

and at least started on time. We'll

2:28

check in with the Washington Redskins. They are

2:31

set to announce their new team

2:33

nickname. Who won

2:35

the poll question from the first hour on what the

2:37

audience thinks they'll pick the Redtails. A

2:41

second is generals? What what are these

2:43

people thinking? You can't have

2:45

the generals? Because first of all,

2:47

the Washington Generals they were

2:50

always the foils to the Harlem

2:52

globe trotters. They always lost

2:55

um. And then people are gonna have problems

2:57

with, well, what generals are

2:59

we talking about? What about the

3:01

Washington Native Americans? How

3:04

about that one? That's why you keep it in the genre

3:06

of what they else started with. Yeah, it's

3:08

not gonna go over well, but Daniel

3:10

Snyder is bowing to the

3:13

pressure here, and I think he's gonna

3:15

I think it'll turn out great for him.

3:17

At least it should, But with Daniel Snyder

3:19

it might not. But you're gonna

3:22

get whole new merchandising revenue here. To

3:26

me, it's a windfall with that.

3:29

You know you can you can be you

3:32

can say to your loyal fan base. Hey, I tried,

3:35

but they you know, I was forced to do

3:37

this. But then you can also say

3:39

I'm going to create a whole new revenue stream

3:42

of merchandise here and

3:44

I and I also

3:46

think the commissioner is going to get a paddle

3:49

on the back here too. And I don't know if he's had

3:51

any real involvement here, but it's

3:53

under his watch, and I think that he is

3:55

concerned about his legacy here

3:57

other than hey, I made these guys a whole lot

3:59

of on a yes time. Well, they immediately stopped

4:01

selling the old offensive logo. The reason,

4:04

I ask is because people like whether it's offensive

4:06

or not the old school thing, because then they can make money in

4:08

two ways, the new ones and everyone that's rushing

4:10

to buy the now old school logo.

4:12

I don't know what the market's going to be, but

4:16

there are going to be people who are still

4:18

going to wear that logo.

4:20

They're going to wear that merchandise. The

4:22

Atlanta Braves are not changing their

4:24

nickname, but they're reassessing

4:27

the tomahawk chop. How

4:29

are you going to police that? I

4:32

know it sounds good, like, hey, I just

4:34

thought that make the logo look

4:37

proud, you know, the one with the Cleveland

4:39

Indians. That's embarrassing. The

4:42

Chicago Blackhawks did it correctly.

4:45

It's beautiful, it's gorgeous.

4:48

You could be proud of at least seeing

4:51

what it looks like. The Blackhawk tribe,

4:55

the Cleveland Indians. It looks

4:57

like, you know, somebody's ready to attack

4:59

you. And it's a it's

5:01

a cartoon character. That was

5:03

the problem I had with it. But Cleveland

5:06

Indians are going to change the look of their logo.

5:08

I don't know if they change the nickname, but yeah,

5:11

and nobody's going to be happy. There'll

5:13

be people who are unhappy, I should say, with whatever

5:15

Washington picks. But you can't have,

5:18

you know, the monuments. We've been tearing down

5:20

monuments and statues and

5:24

what are some of the other names. So Vegas

5:26

has odds, Redtails is

5:28

a nod to the Tuskegee

5:31

Airmen, and I think that's

5:33

great. Generals, I don't like that.

5:35

Presidents don't like that. Lincoln's veterans

5:39

veterans. I would be fine with capitals

5:42

spelled with an O instead

5:46

of an A. Americans, the

5:48

Washington Americans memorials

5:52

is there monuments. Kings can't

5:55

do Kings Roosevelts. I

5:57

think we've already had some issues with a Roosevelt,

5:59

haven't we. RedHawks Renegades

6:04

Renegade is all right, but

6:06

that's that's where we are this morning. And I don't

6:08

know what's

6:11

the time frame, but it feels like it's it's

6:13

eminent that we're going to be changing that nickname.

6:16

Yes, boy, I'm really curious when Daniel

6:18

Snyder, the owner of the Redskins, decides to do

6:20

interviews after whatever name is released, when

6:22

he's asked the question why now, and

6:25

how honest he is, because, like the press release mentioned

6:27

sponsors in the first paragraph,

6:30

and he was completely transparent.

6:32

This is about I mean, they sent out

6:34

a memo it and it talked about it

6:37

said sponsors, and then

6:39

it said so here's the statement.

6:44

It says, on July third, we announced

6:46

the commencement of a thorough review of

6:48

the team's name. That review is

6:50

begun in earnest. As part of this process,

6:53

we want to keep our sponsors, fans,

6:55

and community apprized of our

6:57

thinking as we go forward, So sponsor,

7:01

fans, community in

7:04

that order. I

7:06

appreciate the honesty there, if they

7:08

were if they even knew they were being honest,

7:10

here and then at the very bottom

7:12

of the memo that was put out by the Washington

7:15

Redskins, standing

7:18

enhanced the standing of our proud, tradition, rich

7:20

franchise and inspire our sponsors,

7:23

fans and community for the

7:25

next one hundred years. So

7:28

we'll wait for that coming up here. I

7:31

don't know what exactly is going to happen once

7:33

we get it, but do we celebrate?

7:37

Got this from the league office. The

7:39

owners don't vote on this. The

7:41

league works with the team on the

7:43

legal and creative design processes,

7:46

so the commissioners involved in this. The League office

7:49

is involved in this, not the other owners,

7:52

although it feels like Jerry Jones is probably involved

7:55

in everything since he's the most powerful

7:57

guy in the NFL. Here was another thing I saw.

8:00

I don't know if this struck you the same way, but Patrick

8:02

Mahomes making headlines, not with

8:04

his contract, which I do think is

8:07

going to be team friendly, and

8:10

I don't know, you know, there'll be a renegotiation,

8:12

I'm sure, but a couple of years down the road, we're

8:14

probably going to look back on this contract and go and

8:17

you know, and I'm saying this hoping Mahomes

8:19

stays healthy. That this is going to be

8:21

a team friendly contract with

8:23

the Kansas City Chiefs. But the

8:26

headline that I saw, or at least somebody

8:28

was trying to make it a headline on the Mothership, Mahomes

8:32

is, you know, trying he wants to go after

8:34

Tom Brady's six Super Bowl rings.

8:38

And I went, well, I'm

8:40

gonna guess every quarterback

8:42

does it, don't they. That'd be like

8:45

if Lebron says, hey, I want to go after Michael's

8:47

six titles, is that going to be a headline? Like

8:51

do you think Lebron goes, you know what if I

8:53

get to five undone, I'm good. If

8:55

Mahomes said, you know, hey, if I get one more,

8:57

I'm good, I don't

9:01

know. Yeah, I saw this, I went, wait,

9:03

what's what's the big story here? And

9:05

it was like Mahomes says he wants to go

9:08

after Brady's six Super Bowl rings. I'm like,

9:10

wait, does he actually want Tom's Super Bowl

9:12

rings? Or did he want rings of

9:14

his own? Like I'm confused what the big story here

9:16

is? But Patrick Mahomes is

9:19

going after you know, the breaking

9:21

news. Patrick Mahomes is going after Tom

9:23

Brady's rings. Six athletes

9:25

want to win as many championships before

9:27

the career do. That's

9:30

what surprised me. I went, wow,

9:33

he wants to win. One of the headline

9:35

was Mahomes satisfied at one looking

9:38

forward to playing next season just to earn

9:40

a check that a wild card game. I'm

9:42

all set, Mahomes says, Hey, I got one.

9:45

I'm here for the money now, just got a boat.

9:47

Yeah, let

9:49

me get some phone calls. Best and Worst of the Weekend is

9:51

we always do every Monday. What you saw

9:53

that you liked you didn't like. We say good morning to

9:56

our radio partners, TV partners,

9:58

chat row and we say a load of Kevin

10:00

and North Carolina. Who leads this off best

10:02

and worst of the weekend? keV Hey,

10:05

DP Hey, keV hey

10:07

man love the shirt. Got

10:09

three best of the weekend, got my dad a trigger

10:12

with iron six fifty and a pair of rakon So

10:14

it was a DP birthday. Nice number

10:17

two. I don't know if you've heard it yet, but

10:19

this goes with your shirt. James and Miller's

10:22

origins Chapter six almost Famous

10:24

turns twenty is incredible.

10:26

You got to get him on and talk about that. And

10:29

number three, which should have been your play

10:31

of the day, Bruce Smith money.

10:36

Thank you, keV. By the way, I'm wearing a led Zeppelin

10:38

T shirt today and only because it's

10:40

dark and it makes me look a little slimmer.

10:43

That's it. I'll

10:46

play that. We're gonna have to bleep out

10:48

Bruce Smith the Hall of Famer. He was

10:50

on Family Feud and

10:55

he was there with Michael Irvin Chris Carter,

10:58

and i'll play that coming

11:00

up in a little bit, but I got

11:02

to make sure that we have Marvin

11:05

listen to that and bleep out a couple of things

11:08

because it a surprising

11:10

answer from Bruce Smith and

11:12

an even more surprising response

11:15

by Steve Harvey. So I'll have that for

11:17

you coming up. Nick

11:19

and Arizona. Hi, Nick, what's on your mind today?

11:22

Welcome to the program. Hey

11:24

DP six ft two d

11:28

Hey boys, So you're chatting about red Skins.

11:30

I had a name for you, wanted to get your thoughts. So

11:32

their unofficial mascot

11:35

is the pig. So what do you think about the Washington

11:37

Hogs. Yeah, it's not a

11:39

bad one and a lot of history there. And

11:42

thanks for the phone call, Nick, Um, I

11:45

think that's down on the list with Vegas

11:47

with the odds. Yes, me

11:49

clubbing now, Paul, he's

11:51

trying to puns

11:53

onto me. Yeah, easy, cheesy puns

11:55

like pork barrel. You know what that phrase comes from

11:57

the Hawks. Hawks is not the worst idea,

12:00

because then you keep Here's what I really

12:02

think. I think Daniel Snyder is not going to change much at all.

12:05

I think he's gonna change just the

12:07

bare minimum to get this past the goalie

12:10

and keep all the other stuff, the look

12:12

on everything else the same. Well, I think you want to keep

12:14

something with the R. Yeah,

12:16

the logo, you know, with the Redskins

12:18

with the script R. Can they if

12:21

that's no longer the team name? Well, if you're the Red

12:23

Tails, yeah, yeah, like keep the R. Oh,

12:26

that's interesting. Yeah, that's what I think is going to happen

12:28

here. And I'm

12:30

looking at some of the other nicknames and I don't see

12:33

any of them that begin

12:35

the Renegades is the only other one I think

12:37

that has an R in it, the Roosevelts.

12:39

But the Roosevelts aren't gonna make it. Snowflakes

12:42

is a five hundred to one. Yeah,

12:47

Hoggs is too. It doesn't work

12:49

Pcise either. I can't explain why, but

12:52

oh, you're making fun of the lineman be's. They were

12:54

overweighted. I don't know, like every name you can pick

12:56

up. Yeah, but they called themselves the Hogs.

13:00

I know. It's just like it's so hard to not

13:02

make a part of name, right. Uh,

13:06

Josh in Turkey, Hey

13:09

Josh ab

13:11

first time a long time in five eleven, one seventy

13:14

five. What

13:16

are you doing in Turkey? I

13:19

who live here? Well, I

13:21

know, but what do you do in

13:23

What do you do in Turkey?

13:26

Military? Oh? Okay, well, good, glad

13:29

to have you. So

13:31

regard college football this fall, if

13:34

there is a season with conference only played,

13:36

do you think small schools are allowing the big school

13:38

income we forced to financially cancel

13:41

some sports programs. Yep. And in

13:43

consequent will this be a step towards

13:45

the Power five secession? Yeah, I

13:47

think we're gonna have that, and thank you, Josh. Be

13:49

safe. But it does make sense. I've been saying

13:51

all along the Power five

13:54

conferences should just secede

13:56

from the NCAA. I mean, they

13:59

control college athletics now.

14:02

I would hope they would still have out

14:04

of conference games that they could

14:06

play some of these smaller schools,

14:08

because that's the revenue that will, you

14:11

know, funnel into all of their

14:13

sports and keep them afloat. But

14:15

I think we're eventually going to see the Power

14:17

five conferences be under their own

14:20

that you'll have a commissioner of

14:22

the Power five Conference schools. I think

14:24

that's where we're heading West and

14:26

Phoenix joining us. Hey, Wes, what's up?

14:29

A Dan? Huge fan five

14:31

eleven and a half, A semi solid for

14:33

my age two ten, And

14:36

I just want to know if you could wish my wife Tracy

14:38

a happy fifty birthday. She's a huge fan.

14:41

Her birthday's coming up on July twenty first.

14:43

It would make her a year. No,

14:46

I can't, I can't now.

14:49

And what's her name? Tracy?

14:52

And you said how old she's going

14:54

to be. She's going

14:56

to be turning fifty. Yeah, you're not supposed to say that,

14:58

though she

15:01

wouldn't mind. And hey, it's kind of cool.

15:03

Brian Brian bamb Gardner. I

15:05

actually got him to record a message as well

15:07

for her. And wait, you called

15:09

him before you called me? Yeah?

15:16

Sorry, Dan, Well you have to put in a request and

15:18

then you have to wait. Wow. But

15:21

he actually, without me even asking,

15:23

he made a part in

15:25

the recording about how I should cook her a big thing at

15:27

chili for her birthday, but make sure not to spill it.

15:30

That's great, and I think Brian's going to be on the show

15:33

the next couple of days. He's got some big announcement

15:35

here. But us to

15:37

your wife, Happy fiftieth

15:40

and many many more, and you

15:42

have a great husband. And Wes who called

15:44

in to admit that he thought

15:46

Brian bomba Gardner would be a more important

15:49

message and that

15:51

he gave your age out as well. So Wes,

15:54

congratulations and good luck with your

15:57

home life there. And hey, real quick,

15:59

if you guys ever come of Phoenix, I got an idea. It

16:01

would be a life size wheel of punishment.

16:03

I've got it designed and everything. You strapped the

16:05

Danet or maybe even the big German

16:07

kid to it, you spin them.

16:10

There would be a border around it, of course, and

16:13

wherever their head is at when

16:15

it stops or when they barf, there

16:18

you go. Do you have a picture

16:21

of it? I can send

16:23

either Polly or Seaton

16:28

a sketch of it. Yeah, but I would have plenty

16:30

of time to build it before you guys actually get here. All

16:33

right, Well, thank you, thank you West once again,

16:35

Happy fiftieth Birthday West

16:37

has been listening a long time. Jim

16:40

in Texas joining us on the program. Hi, Jim,

16:43

are you doing? Dan? Good sir? What's on

16:45

your mind? Why don't they

16:47

named the Redskins after what it's all about?

16:50

The Benjamin? You're

16:54

right, that is the bottom line. Thank you, Jim.

16:56

Not a bad idea. I just love

16:59

that they sent out this memo talking about

17:01

this thorough process. And they start

17:03

with sponsors twice.

17:07

I know, they start sponsors

17:09

and then fans and then

17:11

community priorities,

17:16

priorities. More phone calls coming up, people

17:18

still telling me to stay in my lane on pizza

17:21

here. How am I doing? Seaton's down a little

17:23

bit? Oh good? Yeah, okay, all right, just

17:25

check the rankings I got. I'm

17:27

gonna guess two of the top pizza places

17:29

in America or in New Haven,

17:32

Peppi's and Sally's. Can

17:34

people be objective? This where? Like? I

17:37

don't think Chicago has the best pizza in America.

17:39

I've loved someplace in Chicago. I think New Haven's

17:41

better. But people get really defense like Fritzie

17:43

with Brooklyn and other people where

17:45

they come from. Can you be objective? Can people be objective?

17:49

I don't think so you become

17:51

territorial because you'll say, oh, you got to try

17:54

this place by us, and I

17:56

get it. But you know, this

17:58

is an unscientific survey that we took

18:00

at my house. Ye, right, Like I have a favorite

18:02

pizza place, but I think it's probably more based

18:04

on nostalgia and where I grew up. Yeah,

18:06

you know than is it actually the

18:09

best pizza in the world. Probably not, but I would

18:11

have a slice of it right now. Yes, mclovin,

18:13

you're you're grimacing over there. No,

18:16

I it's funny. I feel so territorial at

18:18

any knowledge. I've never gone to any of these places of Brooklyn.

18:20

I'm googling them right now. Me Like, what about the Faras?

18:23

I don't have no idea where. Just

18:26

to make it sound like you know what you're talking about, hen,

18:29

you're not kidding. New Haven dominates these national

18:31

lists. Yeah, I'm gonna guess two

18:33

of the top seven or eight

18:36

pizza places or in New Haven. Yeah, Sally's

18:38

moderna as hard as it modern

18:41

modern? What is

18:43

MODERNA? That sounds fancy? That must

18:45

be like a fifteen dollar slice MODERNA?

18:48

Is it that a thing? A restaurant? Oh?

18:54

La, moderna?

18:59

Moderna is the big vaccine the company

19:02

that's coming up with a vaccine for Corona. Yeah

19:05

it's modern. Yeah, yeah, it's

19:07

modern. It would be a lot more respected if it was

19:09

modern. Well, it's true, but Mona

19:12

is in the news on the time. How

19:18

about we all go get a slice of moderna.

19:21

But still that at let's

19:28

take a break. We're gonna check

19:30

in with Washington Redskins and uh

19:32

get some updates here on what direction

19:35

we're headed in and why

19:37

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23:02

Kyne covers the Washington Redskins

23:04

for the Mothership kind enough to join us this

23:06

morning. John, you have to come up with new business

23:09

cards. There's

23:12

a lot of things we're gonna have to come up with here. It's

23:14

it's going to be very weird because you go for

23:16

I've covered this team for a long time, and

23:19

so people ask you what do you do. I covered

23:21

the I write about the Washington Redskins. Now it's

23:23

gonna be like, oh, what do you write about the Washington

23:25

Who? Yeah, so's it's going to be

23:28

very very different and takes some getting

23:30

used to for a lot of people. Why now,

23:34

Well, I think you can go back to

23:36

the George Floyd death that

23:39

while in police custody and go and start

23:41

from there, because we've all known for a

23:43

while that there was pressure

23:46

on this team to change the name for a while and

23:48

it wasn't really going anywhere. The pattern

23:50

in the past was whether the storm

23:53

get to the quiet part and just you

23:55

know, survived the controversy. Well

23:58

after that point, we all saw what is

24:00

happening in society and the protests,

24:03

the riots, statues coming

24:05

down, you know, very you

24:07

know flags, you know, the Confederate flag not

24:09

being flowny more at NASCAR and all that. So

24:11

I think that led to sponsor or

24:13

two groups feeling like there was

24:15

a window open of opportunity

24:18

that had never existed before. And

24:20

then they started going after sponsors. And

24:22

once you start doing that, then, as you know,

24:25

that's when you get things done. I think that's

24:27

been the difference here. When it came

24:29

out that ad we had done a story about

24:31

the letter that investors and

24:33

shareholders sent to PepsiCo Nike

24:36

FedEx. When that came out, I talked

24:38

to somebody who had worked for this place for a while

24:40

knew the situation well, and his response

24:42

was, holy crap, this is different.

24:45

Yeah, it feels different. And

24:48

by all accounts, the reports are that

24:50

they're going to change the name this morning.

24:52

What are the options that you've heard it? And

24:54

I'll give you my logic of what I think

24:56

it's going to be. Well,

24:58

I think the one that kind of jumps

25:01

out right away is Warriors, only

25:03

because Dan Snyder used to

25:05

when he first thought the Redskins.

25:08

He also bought the rights to an

25:10

Arena Football League franchise team if

25:12

they came to Washington. He went then

25:15

wanted to trademark the name Warriors, even

25:17

had some logos designed. I think it was a spear

25:19

on the helmet and all that. So if the

25:21

name has changed quickly, that

25:24

to me would be the leader in the clubhouse. Now

25:26

as far as like, I know that there are some

25:29

you know Ron Rivera said, and

25:31

I think others there. I know that there's some other names

25:33

that they might like. That's the only one that I think I

25:35

know for sure would be an option. I

25:37

think if you talk to fans, the name that they

25:39

jumped on lately is red Wolves.

25:41

And I have to get a little Twitter poll. Last

25:44

a couple of days ago. I think it was like almost

25:46

seventeen thousand votes and more than wanted

25:49

red Wolves. So I think Redtails was a

25:51

name that was discussed. I don't know that they go in that

25:53

direction. One of the things I think that was

25:55

important to them was initially

25:57

wanted to maintain some connection to Native

26:00

Americans, but also the military. And maybe

26:02

that's why I keep leaning toward warriors.

26:04

I don't know that for sure, but that's where I

26:07

lean. I thought that something

26:09

that started with an R. Therefore, you could keep

26:11

the script R that the Redskins have

26:14

and keep a little bit of that tradition, but

26:16

Red Tails or Renegades or

26:19

red Wolves would be where I would lean.

26:21

What do you think of that logic? Yeah,

26:23

and I think that's I think there's some definite logic

26:25

there because one of the things that they also want to do is

26:27

maintain some traditions. I

26:29

was told that the Planers of now is to keep the burgundy

26:31

and gold colors, big part of the tradition. Another

26:34

part is the marching band.

26:36

And then also they love the phrase. The

26:38

fans love the phrase httr Hail

26:40

to the Redskins. So if you can maintain

26:43

some of that, and I

26:45

think you can get that. So yeah, that's I

26:47

can see that as well. I think Warriors

26:49

again, I still need tore that, but I think your logic

26:52

is correct, and then you could come up with the logo that

26:54

has a script arm the helmet. And if you're a

26:56

fan tuning in and you don't know the

26:58

name has changed, maybe you can forget

27:01

for a minute if there was that important

27:04

to you that it still is

27:06

still the same franchise you're rooting for. How

27:09

does this go wrong? I've

27:13

covered a team for a while. A lot of things

27:15

you can always go wrong. I

27:17

think the way it can go wrong is

27:19

if you rush into a branding situation

27:22

with the logo. I don't think you want

27:24

to rush into that. And when I've talked to people

27:26

about that, that process takes a long time.

27:28

I think that's the important thing to get right here

27:31

is what is that logo going to be? Like? Don't

27:33

rush it. There has a feel of a fire

27:36

aim ready to do this, in part because

27:38

of the way this is all unfolded. This

27:40

isn't something that going into the offseason,

27:43

Dan Snyder had a plan on doing. It

27:45

was kind of forced upon him for

27:47

whatever reason because like we talked about earlier.

27:50

So I think if you rush it, that's

27:52

where you can get into trouble. This

27:54

is a monumental thing, and you

27:56

know like how sports fans are with these teams,

27:58

and you also know that in fifteen twenty years,

28:01

whatever you decide now is what people will

28:03

identify with. So take your time

28:05

and get it right. Yeah.

28:08

My whole thought with this is it's

28:10

always the bottom line. It's about money.

28:12

Even the memo they sent out starts with

28:14

thanking you know, sponsors, fans,

28:17

community in that order, John. And

28:19

then I think of this as Daniel

28:21

Snyder can still say to his loyal fan base,

28:24

I tried, but I couldn't. They wouldn't

28:26

allow me to keep it. And you get this whole

28:28

revenue stream of new merchandise

28:31

here. So I think Daniel

28:33

Snyder is going to do well

28:35

with this. You go

28:38

kicking and screaming sort of, but also,

28:40

hey, now all of a sudden, I got a whole new

28:42

revenue stream that I never thought I was going to be getting.

28:45

Yeah, And I think that's what people have long

28:48

been trying to tell him, that those who wanted

28:50

to change years ago, that you can benefit

28:53

financially from this Now, obviously

28:55

there's going to be a cost involved. You're going to have to

28:57

change, changing all the signage, the merchandise,

29:00

everything is going to be probably more than ten million

29:02

dollars. So there's gonna be a cost. But you

29:04

know, and you're gonna get fans Like I've heard from fans

29:06

to say I won't look for this team again. I think

29:08

it's a small percentage, but that group

29:11

exists. I also wonder Dan too,

29:14

who jumps on board with this, because

29:16

there are a lot of people in this in the Washington area.

29:18

The last few years, they haven't exactly

29:20

been flocking to games here because the

29:22

team. It's not about the name, it's

29:24

about the team not being good. Maybe with

29:27

the new name comes some new energy for

29:29

some people who are maybe

29:32

not on board with it before.

29:34

So I think that that there is a potential

29:36

you may have people who say, hey, because they change

29:38

it now, I'm going to support them. I'll go out and buy the gear.

29:40

And that's why I go back to the logo and the

29:43

branding. If you get that right,

29:45

you can really cash in in that regard.

29:47

John, thanks for joining us. I know it's a busy

29:50

time for you. We appreciate it. And hope you're well, my

29:53

pleasure, thanks for having me out. That's John Cyme.

29:55

He covers the Washington whoever

29:58

for the Mothership? Still

30:00

waiting word. I'd like red tails, something that has

30:02

an R in it, and then I think you can still keep

30:04

that script are. By

30:07

the way, last time the Washington Redskins

30:09

were in the conference title game,

30:12

anybody want to wager a guess?

30:16

Washington Redskins?

30:18

And can you name the quarterback?

30:24

The coach was Joe Gibbs, Yes,

30:30

Paul. I don't know the year, but Jason Campbell's

30:33

name came to mind. He was pretty good, but I don't

30:35

think he got that far Mark rippin nineteen

30:38

ninety one. Only

30:40

five franchises have failed to reach

30:42

a conference title game going

30:45

back to nineteen ninety one. The

30:47

Bengals, the Browns, the

30:51

Lions, Texans,

30:55

and of course the Redskins are in there as well.

30:57

That out of the day day, that

31:00

pastat of the day, stat of

31:02

the day comes

31:05

that what stat of the day?

31:10

Yeah, you can have a new logo, you can have

31:12

a new nickname, but if you're the same old

31:14

Redskins, it's not gonna matter. I

31:17

you know, it's like putting ear rings on a pig. You

31:19

know you're still it's a

31:22

pig with ear rings on. Yeah, it's

31:24

not a not a good team, not a good franchise.

31:26

It's not well run. Yes,

31:29

I would be putting ear rings on a hog. I guess, okay,

31:32

all right, I got that. The red

31:34

wolf is a canine native to

31:36

southeastern United States which

31:39

has a reddish tawny color to

31:41

its fur, kind

31:44

of like a coyote and gray wolf come

31:47

combo platter, very

31:49

closely related to the Eastern

31:51

wolf of eastern Canada.

31:55

I like using the word indigenous. Is

31:58

the red wolf in enous to Washington?

32:03

I don't know what it means. I just like using that word

32:05

indigenous, like there are a few words.

32:08

What are some words that come to mind that you use

32:10

and you're not quite sure, but it sounds

32:13

really impressive when you do. Yeah, Paul, I'll

32:15

throw in a juxtapose, a conundrum,

32:19

conundrum. I'm

32:21

not afraid to go conundrum on. I went conundrum

32:23

last night. Indigenous

32:26

when there's a situation, I'd like to use exacerbate.

32:28

I'm not exactly sure what it means, but I think I know us

32:31

it exponentially. Yes,

32:33

VIC love it. I like cognitive dissidents

32:36

and Pauli's and I am too,

32:38

and ab judicate. I don't really know exactly,

32:42

you know, like whatever, there's a sports loss story with judicate

32:45

judicate? Does this mean to try in court?

32:47

I guess I don't know. You got one? Seaton? No,

32:49

No, but I think of Andrew every time I hear someone

32:52

say it's a FATA company

32:54

that was big in twenty twelve, Rand there was

32:56

a Rutten Beata company. Yeah,

33:00

Todd, I'm stumped. I

33:02

wanted to have one. You know how much I have to be part of these

33:04

little use little puzzle and one. Some of us don't

33:06

have great vocabularies, are very limited in

33:08

our words. Thanks Todd.

33:12

Oh you were saying you see yeah, I say,

33:15

I thought I thought you meant. Toddler's right

33:17

there with me. Todd's biggest word of cinemax that

33:19

is a SpectraVision. When

33:23

we come back, speaking of going blue,

33:26

Uh, family feud with Steve Harvey

33:28

and then Bruce Smith. We're gonna play

33:30

the feud. Did we find out how the Buffalo Bills

33:33

got their nickname? Mcclevin, Is it because

33:35

of Buffalo Bill? We have not found that out yet. Did

33:37

you look, I did not you too

33:39

busy looking up the genealogy

33:41

of the red wolf red wolf

33:44

red wolves. Right,

33:47

we'll see if you can find that. I think it's it's

33:49

it's because of the I started looking at up.

33:51

That stopped. That

33:54

kind of sums up our

33:56

research department here we started with the try.

33:59

I looked. It

34:01

wasn't exactly a direct order, in fairness

34:04

to you, Yes, didn't

34:06

the Browns have a vote to Cleveland

34:09

the name of Cleve. They had like a citywide

34:11

vote and they chose Browns, but Paul Brown

34:14

didn't want it, and then he went to Cincinnati. Anyway,

34:16

isn't there a big backstory about that? I remember

34:18

you telling us about that. Yeah, I

34:20

forgot Yeah. I think all these names

34:22

are stupid Browns. That's a terrible

34:25

nighbor. Yes,

34:28

I'm looking at something that says the owner. After

34:30

one year, had to name the team contest and

34:32

hopes of choosing a more distinctive nickname. Bisons

34:35

had been the traditional nickname for Buffalo teams for

34:37

many years, but the winning choice was Bills, which

34:39

was a play on the name of the famed Wild West showman

34:41

Buffalo Bill Cody. Okay, by the way,

34:43

did you see where the Toronto Blue Jays. Uh,

34:47

yeah, that's right, there's still possibility of a

34:49

baseball season. The Blue Jays

34:51

can't. They need to find a place

34:54

to play baseball that

34:56

they're not allowed to play in Toronto

34:59

their games, and

35:01

they're looking at Buffalo, which is their minor

35:03

league affiliate. And I

35:06

guess they just started looking into this because

35:08

I think the Canadian government is not letting

35:10

the Toronto Blue Jays play

35:13

games, have teams come into Canada,

35:15

So they're looking to play in

35:18

Buffalo. Yeah, we got

35:20

this all figured out. What could

35:22

go wrong? Yes, tod because nobody circles

35:24

the wagons like the Toronto Blue Thank

35:27

you Chris Burman. I

35:30

was watching what was it last Sunday

35:34

where Chris Burman came on and

35:37

I saw, you know on my direct TV

35:39

where it said eight o'clock the

35:42

Eagles at the Forum

35:44

and I'm going, okay, ESPN and

35:47

what are the Eagles doing at the Forum? And

35:49

then I realized it's the band

35:52

the Eagles at the Forum. And

35:54

Chris Burman comes on and gives it an introduction.

35:57

He goes, it's not the Eagles,

35:59

Chuck Bednarik, and

36:02

I went, so, Chris is

36:04

at his home somewhere and he's

36:06

introducing the Eagles with

36:09

a concert that had already happened at

36:11

the Forum. And I think it was three

36:13

hours long, this concert

36:15

on ESPN. That

36:18

was. That was Sunday night programming for

36:20

the Mothership. Tell You Where

36:23

you Can't leave? Wait

36:26

where? And

36:30

he was doing you know, Chris is doing all of his

36:32

Eagles puns and play on words

36:35

and uh, and then

36:37

showing when Glenn Fry was on the

36:39

schwam at the Super Bowl, what's

36:42

this song? Where? Um? Uh?

36:46

What he'd been in a pickup truck,

36:49

turned around to take a look at me? Take

36:51

it easy? Uh? And what's

36:54

that place in Arizona standing

36:56

on a corner in Winslow, Arizona.

36:58

Yeah, And so he did one with so

37:01

Chris replayed that from I don't know

37:03

how long ago that was. He

37:05

shows up and Chris does that wide

37:08

eyed surprise like it's

37:10

Glenn far I'm

37:13

going of Chris, I'm

37:15

sure that he just didn't show up in surprise. It's

37:18

Glenn frouds me a camera crew yet

37:20

Wait? Yeah, all

37:22

right, take a break. More phone calls coming up right

37:24

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phone calls as well. Update

37:48

the poll results. McLevin, what name do you like

37:50

for the new Washington team? The Red tails

37:52

is first and the General somehow is still

37:55

maintaining second spot. I just

37:57

can't imagine in this politically

38:00

correct world trying to get the general's

38:02

past here. I just don't see that happening.

38:05

And you you had the generals, you

38:08

know that played against

38:10

the Harlem Globe Trotters. Didn't you have the generals

38:12

from the USFL? Well,

38:15

those were the New Jersey generals with Doug

38:17

Flutie. Okay, what was Washington's

38:20

name with Craig James Washington

38:23

Federals? Yeah, oh, I

38:26

think I think so, but

38:29

Washington generals? That

38:31

that one feels like you're going to get some pushback

38:34

on that. Can we do an hour on USFL names? Cool?

38:38

Yeah, we would probably do pretty well

38:40

with USFL names and players

38:42

who played in the USFL. All right, uh

38:45

saw this, and I was really

38:47

surprised at Bruce Smith the

38:50

Hall of Famer. He was on Family

38:52

Feud and this was the Celebrity

38:54

Family Feud, the Sunday episode and

38:58

he's up there, Chris Carter, my Coel Urvan and

39:01

they're going against rising

39:03

stars in the NFL. And you

39:06

had the following question

39:09

asked by Steve Harvey to Bruce

39:11

Smith, if

39:13

Captain Hook was moonlighting

39:16

as a handyman, he might

39:18

replace his hook with what tool?

39:21

A hammer? Try again? A

39:25

penis? Tell me the age a kid

39:27

is too old to sleep with a tech? What he

39:29

said? Come

39:41

on, we can't start this year. We

39:49

can't for more. Now, we can't go on sid

39:53

I'm sorry, you

39:55

can't go on here. I'm sorry. Let

39:58

go, let go, let go. We came sort. I'm

40:00

sorry. I swear,

40:02

I swear, I'm sorry that that just

40:04

came out. I don't even know where that came from.

40:07

I was reading the question and then I said,

40:09

what if?

40:14

I don't know what's more surprised? I

40:16

guess Bruce Smith, like, what could

40:18

you possibly be thinking? A

40:20

handyman and you're going to replace

40:22

his hook? I

40:25

gotta believe there's a few other tools that you

40:27

could have mentioned other than your personal

40:29

tool. Why did

40:31

he say that? I

40:34

don't I don't understand why why did he say that?

40:36

Like what was going through his mind? Where

40:38

you're going through kind of the rolodecks of tools

40:41

that you could have captain hook

40:43

us and he went with the penis.

40:47

I guess I know exactly what was going through his mind.

40:51

And then Steve Harvey it's like

40:53

three or four seconds on delay and he's like, wait,

40:55

why what the bleep did you

40:58

say? Yeah, when

41:00

you're in the garaderate, don't with Bruce Smith, don't ask

41:05

what is this? Bruce, I'm working

41:08

on my car wrench. Whoa

41:12

yeah, not that hammer. Not

41:15

that hammer, Bruce Gee, whiz hammer

41:20

time remember big Shank. They

41:25

had him on because speaking of hammers,

41:29

you're like, it's so, what's your nickname? Who? What was it? Vincente

41:32

Shianco tight End the

41:35

tight End Vikings. Yeah, and he was They showed

41:37

him like like one of those postgame things,

41:40

the video there they had in the locker room and he's standing

41:42

there and he's clearly naked um

41:44

and very visible and uh

41:47

that you we had him on like the next day

41:49

and you're like, so, what's your nickname? And it was Big Shank.

41:52

I'm no kidding. I

41:54

think you asked him how to always been your nickname? Or just

41:56

recently VINCENTE

42:02

Shanko, Yeah, something

42:04

like that. Yeah, I think I

42:06

I what I thought. I gave him another

42:08

nickname like the

42:09

uh, the

42:12

utility belt or something. I forget what

42:14

I said to him as a nickname,

42:16

and then he said Big Shanks. Steve

42:18

Harvey's reaction though so funny. His face,

42:21

he always make that face, and damn is

42:23

it funny. Oh

42:27

that's good. All right, We'll

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give you our best and worst of the weekend coming up.

42:33

It's good to be back, it is.

42:36

It's it's good to be back. Yes,

42:38

Todd, I love those

42:40

moments on game shows. Steve Harvey

42:42

has a few of those. Again,

42:46

he raised my head, he calls, ever, I got to come

42:48

up. You haven't raised your hand today

42:52

and you lean into your microphone. So

42:56

Orlando Pacing, Kevin Green or some interesting choices

42:58

for the Five Hall of Famers did a

43:01

two hours in the book One More to Go setan

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Paul Fritzie mcleveniers truly here on The Dan Patrick

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