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Broadcasting from the Mercedes Man

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It's Dan Patrick Final

1:11

hour on this Wednesday, Dana the Dnne's Dan

1:13

Patrick's Show spent a lot of time talking

1:16

some football mock draft with mel Kiper.

1:18

Also a lot of reaction to the Astros

1:21

some of my comments in the first hour of the show.

1:23

Other football news. Drew Brees told everybody

1:26

wants to come back next season on Instagram

1:28

yesterday. And assuming this, Saints running back

1:30

Breeze's decision is going to have interesting

1:33

ramifications on two other players on

1:35

New Orleans roster. Teddy Bridgewater

1:37

will likely play elsewhere. Taysom Hill

1:39

will likely stay there not get paid

1:42

as a backup quarterback. I wouldn't

1:44

be surprised if they brought in Chase

1:46

Daniel again. You want to Taysom Hill

1:48

out there in that role or those

1:50

roles that he best helps

1:53

you with, that best showcase

1:56

his talents. But you know it's

1:58

not simple. You start with Bridgewater. There

2:00

was a report that he would demand thirty million dollars

2:02

a year. The question is where is

2:05

he better than Jameis Winston and Tampa, Cam

2:07

Newton and Carolina? With the Bears want to invest

2:09

that kind of money in a veteran quarterback

2:11

when they have Mitchell Trubisky? What about

2:13

the Chargers? Would they pay big bucks

2:15

to bring somebody? And are they going to draft

2:18

somebody? What about the Patriots? If Tom

2:20

Brady leaves? What about the Colts? So

2:22

we're not quite sure where these

2:25

quarterbacks are going to end up. And it's

2:27

really going to have a big domino effect

2:29

on what happens in the draft and

2:32

with some of these starters, current starters with

2:34

these teams and also those who could come

2:36

in and replace them with Carolina,

2:38

what do you do? Does Carolina

2:41

to go all in on going up in the draft to

2:43

get a quarterback? What's Cam

2:45

Newton's future going to be? Philip

2:47

Rivers? I still believe he's going to the Colts.

2:49

Where does Brady go? Is it Patriots?

2:52

Raiders? Is it going to be Chargers? Then

2:55

you have Teddy Bridgewater. Where does he end

2:57

up? How long did the Bears stay with Mitchell Trubisky.

3:00

So a lot of questions that are

3:02

going to have to be answered here in a short period

3:04

of time, you're going to have free agency

3:06

starting. The Patriots want

3:08

an answer from Tom Brady before free agency

3:10

starts. So he's got about three

3:13

more weeks or so, maybe a little more than

3:15

that before he has to He doesn't

3:17

have to tell the Patriots, but the Patriots want

3:19

to know what he is going to do, what's

3:21

he going to cost? And do you want him back

3:24

at that age and that price Drew

3:26

Brees coming back Now,

3:28

I don't have any verification on this, but

3:30

I still have to believe Drew Brees

3:32

looked at this decision as

3:35

do I want to continue to play?

3:38

Do I want to go into the broadcast booth? Now

3:41

he does have or did have that option. I'm

3:44

guessing in the offseason, if Tony Romo doesn't

3:47

leave CBS, then maybe the Monday night

3:49

job would be Drew Breeses or vice

3:51

versa. If Tony Romo left and went to the

3:54

Mothership, Drew Brees then

3:56

might be in a prime position to be in

3:58

Tony Romo's chair. And I

4:00

think that he would be very good as

4:02

an analyst there he's coming back

4:04

for one more year, and Tony

4:08

Romo, we're waiting to find out what his decision is,

4:10

whether he's going to stay or he's going to go. Greg

4:12

Olson. Greg Olson was rumored

4:15

to be up for a big time job as an analyst.

4:17

He decides he's going to sign for one year with Seattle.

4:20

Now, maybe he knew that he wasn't going to get

4:22

the Monday night job. Maybe he

4:25

realized that, you know, Tony Romo

4:27

leaves, he wouldn't get that number one spot

4:29

with CBS. I don't know if that factored

4:31

in in either these decisions. The fact that

4:33

those two decisions happened yesterday

4:36

and the timing of Tony Romo

4:38

saying, according to Mike Florio, he's

4:41

already it looks like he's made up his mind

4:43

of what he's going to do with this next TV deal. It

4:46

just feels like there's maybe not a coincidence

4:49

there. Maybe there is some kind

4:51

of pattern that happened that these

4:53

two players realized, you know, Tony

4:55

Romo is going to do this. Therefore,

4:58

what's that meaning with my football? If you because

5:00

they're only gonna play probably one more year. Greg

5:02

Olsen, I'm guessing plays one more year, Drew

5:05

Brees, probably one more year.

5:07

He's going to get to eighty thousand yards.

5:10

Yeah, I mean, he doesn't have anything else to play for

5:12

except for he wants to get another shot at the

5:14

super Bowl. I certainly understand that. I

5:17

think he is a good quarterback. Now, I

5:19

don't think he's a great quarterback. I think he can

5:21

be at times great. I think he's

5:23

been good the last two years. I

5:26

think that SAME's team has been very good. So

5:29

he has to raise his level up a little bit.

5:31

How do you use Taysom Hill? I would

5:33

be using Taysom Hill a lot more this year.

5:36

I'd almost do load management with Drew Brees.

5:38

I want him to be fresh. I don't want that arm

5:41

tired when you get late in the season. Certainly

5:43

get into the postseason. But just some of the

5:45

things happening with free

5:47

agency here and also the draft. We had

5:49

Mel Kuiper on, and I

5:53

thought mel Kuiper was down playing some of

5:55

Joe Burrow's comments because he's Megan. It

5:57

seemed like others are creating something

5:59

around Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow

6:01

singing he as leverage can only mean one

6:03

thing, you know, the leverage

6:06

is if I don't want to go to Cincinnati,

6:09

then you have leverage. How much leverage do you

6:11

have? But to say we're going

6:13

through our process, they're going through their process,

6:17

I don't know what that means. He

6:19

could end all of this if

6:22

he just says, I'm hey, if

6:24

Cincinnati wants me, that's where

6:26

I want to go. I'm a loyal guy,

6:29

team guy. You draft me, I'm

6:31

going to go in and make the best of a situation.

6:34

I did that with Lsu. I went there, nobody

6:36

had any expectations and you know what

6:39

those are Bengal Tigers, and I'm gonna

6:41

go in with the Bengals and I'm gonna do the

6:43

same thing. Like you can end all of it, and then

6:45

nobody's gonna go I'm gonna question him, and

6:47

you know, if he has to backtrack. Remember when

6:49

Eli Manning got drafted, he had to do

6:52

a round of interviews where he acted

6:54

like he was on the Chargers. How

6:56

about that charade, and then all

6:59

of a sudden, hey, you're not a Charger,

7:01

You're a Giant. That he had to do another round of

7:03

interviews to act as if he knew the roster

7:06

with the Giants. He knew the roster with the Chargers.

7:08

This happened with Olden Polinese and Scottie

7:11

Pippen at an NBA draft that I covered

7:14

where they had their hats on and all

7:16

of a sudden they changed hats. They

7:19

were both seated next to each other and we're

7:22

interviewing them, and I would like to announce

7:24

the trade. Seattle has

7:26

traded the rights to Scottie Pippen to

7:28

Chicago for Olden Polines and then they switched

7:30

hats. It's like crazy.

7:33

Eight seven seven three D P show email on DRESSDP

7:36

at Dwanpatrick dot com Twitter

7:38

haad to a DP show. We're also casting

7:40

the Astro's Signs Stealing

7:42

movie. Somebody suggested

7:44

Harry Styles as Cody Bellinger. All

7:47

right, we'll work on that. I

7:50

still think by Josel Tuve and

7:53

Turtle from Entourage, that's dead on.

7:55

I just gotta tell Jerry Farrar that he's

7:57

going to be playing the role at Josel Tuve, Paulie,

8:01

did you text Jerry Ferrare? I have, but

8:03

it's only eleven am Okay. Oh,

8:05

he's a sleeping guy, even though he's got a kid.

8:07

Now, yeah, all right, Well he's a big time actor

8:10

too. We all said, Woody Harrelson

8:12

is a J. Hinch. Bevin Diesel

8:14

is Alex Cora. So we're casting

8:17

the movie there. And somebody suggested

8:19

Paul Giamatti for Rob Manfred

8:23

a little connection there historically family man

8:26

dad being a former commissioner

8:28

Major League Baseball Bart Giamatti, and then

8:30

he could play the commissioner in it. Yeah, all

8:32

right, I'm okay with that. A couple of phone

8:34

calls here, we will bring back the what

8:37

we thought was Andrew Luck calling in yesterday.

8:40

We had a lot of fun with that. We'll

8:42

bring that back coming up here. In a

8:44

moment. Manny in South Carolina joins

8:46

this, Manny, what do you have for me today? Nothing

8:49

much. Dan's big fan, been a fan of yours since nineteen

8:52

ninety seven. Man, it's really

8:54

good to talk to you anyway. I'm

8:56

active duty military. I just wanted to give a little bit

8:58

of perspective of the whole

9:00

astro situation, if you don't mind, if you'll,

9:02

if you'll indulge me for a second here. I

9:05

know you guys were talking about, you know, the difference between

9:07

you know, the steroids and how the problem

9:09

is gonna be resolved as far as punishments

9:12

are concern and I see the steroid problem

9:14

ass more as an individual uh,

9:16

you know, someone committing an individual act,

9:19

a series of individual acts, yet but

9:21

individual in nature. When we look

9:23

at at the ASTROS, we're looking at at a systemic

9:26

organizational problem. Um

9:28

all the way from the top down. Anybody

9:30

who was in that dugout knew what was going on

9:33

and actively covered it up.

9:35

So I mean, when I look at it from that perspective,

9:38

I think there would be totally within reason to

9:40

expect the commissioner to seek

9:42

you know, obviously vacating the title is

9:45

number one, but there should be some suspensions

9:47

and obviously there should be a full investigation

9:49

to identify exactly to what extent people

9:52

were involved. If you were actually banging on the

9:54

drum, did you actually benefit from

9:56

from from the issue. But

9:58

the investigation is over manning. That's

10:01

the thing that I mean. They completed

10:03

their investigation, and I do appreciate the phone

10:05

call, But when you talk about a team Texas

10:08

Rangers were cheaters with steroids. They had a

10:10

whole lineup it felt like was cheated. I

10:13

don't remember any picture coming forward

10:15

and saying, hey, these guys are cheating

10:17

over here, so it wasn't a individual.

10:19

The Oakland A's with McGuire and Conseco,

10:23

Did anybody come forward and say, hey,

10:25

we got some cheaters over here? You

10:28

know, the Yankees had some guys. Did anybody

10:30

come forward and say, hey we got

10:32

some cheaters. No, they didn't. Look

10:35

it's the mess. But baseball has

10:37

had these pockets where you go, hey,

10:40

I'm gonna call you out on that. Well, if you call me

10:42

out on that, then you call him out on that. You

10:44

know, we haven't even heard what's gonna happen with the Red Sox.

10:47

They're gonna get punished. Any players

10:49

getting punished, probably not. Anybody

10:52

gonna be upset with that. Probably not,

10:56

because when somebody is blatant, as

10:58

the Astros are whisp ling and banging

11:01

a garbage can and

11:03

they're doing that and you can you can

11:05

see the result, and then we want we want

11:08

some kind of punishment there. Hey, you got

11:10

your Apple watch on and then you're giving some information

11:12

to somebody. It's not sexy. I

11:14

don't know if anybody's gonna care about what happens with the

11:16

Red Sox, right, Is anybody

11:18

up in arms at the Red Sox cheated? No,

11:21

they're not forgot all about it. They're

11:23

like, oh, that's right, the red socks here. But

11:25

is anybody, any player going to be punished?

11:28

They already fired their manager. Seems

11:30

to be the pattern, and we can't do anything

11:32

to the players. We're gonna fire those in

11:35

a front office capacity here,

11:37

but that's supposed to happen coming up here, Matthew

11:42

and California. Hey Matt what do you have for me today?

11:45

Hey? Dan six? And

11:50

No, I don't play basketball, but I will help

11:52

Fritzy reach the top shelf. Okay, so

11:55

I just wanted to say thank you. I appreciate your

11:57

honesty and broadcasting. I baseball

12:00

is one of my favorite sports. So I watched the MLB

12:03

network and they've been trotting out a lot of talking

12:05

heads who have said banging trash cans

12:07

won't help. They didn't do it. Then we found out

12:10

they did. Then they tried it out. People who said

12:12

managers didn't know about it. We found out the managers

12:14

knew about it. So my final question

12:16

for the astros would be, you want to put it behind us,

12:18

can you please just sit down and tell us what you

12:21

did and what you moved to because

12:23

you were banging trash cans and you didn't stop cheating.

12:25

So let's find out what they did so we

12:28

can write it in the rules and we can watch sport

12:30

in the future. I really appreciate you, Dan, Thank

12:32

you Matthew, thanks for the phone call, Thanks for the compliment.

12:35

If I'm the commissioner, I gotta get some kind of

12:37

language here that keeps teams from

12:39

cheating. Because he still doesn't have anything

12:41

on the books. So somebody

12:44

else does this, what happens. Your manager

12:46

gets fired, probably your owner gets

12:48

fined. Yeah. See, but like, what

12:50

kind of language do you write into their saying

12:53

don't what's will charge anymore anything

12:55

that has to do with illegally capturing

12:58

signs and by eagle, you

13:00

have to then, you know, spell out

13:03

if you're going to do any kind of uh

13:05

monitoring, TV monitoring, anything

13:07

that is spying and you know, uh,

13:10

I don't know what language it's going to be. You don't have anything

13:13

in there, so I like, anything

13:15

is going to be better than nothing that they have right now,

13:21

and that's gone. Hold run fascinating.

13:24

I loved listening to those whistles, and

13:26

then I wanted to hear the only thing I wanted to hear

13:28

was the next pitch in the swing of the bat, because

13:31

it was often with you would have the whistle

13:35

and then it would be whack. Yeah,

13:38

uh two days play play

13:40

that, give me the whistle and then just all I'm listening

13:42

for is the crack of the bat.

13:56

So once you hear the whistle and

13:58

then and then count how many seconds.

14:00

It's three seconds. It's not like it's

14:02

like whistle and then the pitch is coming

14:04

while you're just getting done whistling. Play

14:07

play another one in there too. I'll

14:14

back. I mean,

14:19

that's an eternity where you're

14:21

going, Okay, there's the whistle,

14:23

I fastball gonna sit dead red here

14:26

and here it comes and there it goes.

14:28

Yeah, but the commissioner couldn't make

14:31

signaling from the clubhouse from the dugout, I'm

14:33

sorry, illegal because that's historical. If

14:35

you look back, you know, if you're at the second base and

14:38

you want to pack, like Dave Roberts said, if you wanted to pat

14:40

your knee and then in the person home

14:42

and the dugout gets it in real time and

14:44

goes does the whistle, Yeah, that's no problem.

14:46

As long as you take out TV and technology. It's

14:49

still a legal act. Yeah, but I

14:51

put that on the catcher. If the catcher can't come

14:53

up devise his system with his signals,

14:56

then that's on him. But if you're going to

14:58

do something surreptitiously and you're

15:00

going to be looking in and getting this this

15:03

video evidence, putting it on a monitor

15:05

there for all the players to see, and

15:08

then you have your signal, it

15:11

seems kind of full proof. Yes,

15:14

mclovin. I was thinking about the catcher signs

15:16

and obviously they're not effective anymore. Why

15:18

don't they put a headphone in the pitcher's years

15:20

like football, maybe half the signs

15:23

come audibly instead of the signs.

15:27

Have you ever pitched? No, you don't want

15:29

to wear something just a little bumber

15:31

they wanted to wear. Have them wear the protective hatch

15:34

so in case they had the comebacker a quarterback

15:36

and the linebacker grab it and there helmet. It's no problem.

15:39

They're always grabbing it when it's allowed out. But

15:42

I feel like the catcher sign is antiquated. It

15:44

feels like kind of bustley because

15:46

it obviously didn't work. But I would

15:48

just do if you're going to do it, just change it. Remember

15:51

it used to be just one or two. Maybe

15:53

that's crazy. Three, that was it. I mean, we went

15:56

through our entire you know, youth days

15:58

in high school days. They put down on one.

16:02

I didn't care if you knew what was coming because I was bringing

16:04

cheese though. I just I just want to let you know you

16:07

showed him the thing. Yeah, I would say fastball,

16:11

fastball, and then I go Charlie

16:14

bringing the hook, bringing the hook. It

16:17

didn't matter with the hook, yes, mclub.

16:19

I mean, I feel like the NFL goes to such lengths

16:21

that they avoid lip readers. Like Baseball's

16:23

not going any lengths apparently at all,

16:28

I know, all feels way more professional in this regards.

16:30

He says, sides. In my opinion, baseball seems, they

16:34

say, somewhat lazy the way they'd be putting science out

16:36

there. What if the game were being brought

16:38

broadcast live on the JumboTron and center field,

16:40

and there was a guy dedicated in the dugout to

16:42

look at the center field JumboTron and when

16:44

he sees the signal goes, Now,

16:47

he's using what's readily available to every

16:49

fifty thousand person people, every fifty thousand

16:51

fans sit in the stadium. Is that using technology

16:54

to feel science? Yeah, it's

16:56

on the screen, so you have to avoid

16:58

the JumboTron, which is well, they don't put games

17:01

on the jumbo try and they're very careful about

17:03

that. They don't even put highlights. They'll

17:07

usually put a headshot and stats, but

17:09

no, they're not. They'll have monitors

17:13

like a Wriggly. They put in these small monitors

17:15

when you're in your sweet area,

17:17

but there's nothing that's there that as

17:19

a fan, I can watch the game there. They'll

17:22

put up the old time of highlights. They're bloopers

17:25

in between innings, but they're not. They're not putting

17:27

the game up there because then you'd be able

17:29

to just look and see there's the catcher and

17:31

you're using technology. Doug

17:34

in South Carolina, Hey Doug, what do you have for me

17:36

today? Hey Dan, good

17:38

morning, Good morning. Disappointed. I'm disappointed

17:41

in you thinking that the steroid Arrow

17:44

and I did a boat called Juice

17:47

with jose Canseco compared to the

17:49

Houston Astros what they did back

17:51

in the day. Those guys still have

17:54

hit a fastball, current ball, change up. The

17:57

Houston Astros knew exactly what was

17:59

coming, and please

18:01

don't think that Houston Astros was

18:03

the only team in the last six years doing

18:06

this. So it's gonna come out, just like

18:08

with Jose and all the players live, we

18:10

didn't do it. We didn't do that, and

18:13

you're gonna find out probably in the next twelve

18:17

months that there was some more teams doing it.

18:20

And yeah, I'm just disappointed. Why

18:23

are you wait, why are you disappointed in me? Doug?

18:25

I'm missing Well because

18:27

because Jose tried to

18:29

stick me many times and asked me if I wanted to

18:31

do it, I never did it. Those guys

18:33

did that. They enhanced their bodies

18:35

there um what

18:38

they did to get

18:40

ready for the next game. They didn't know what

18:43

was coming. They didn't know if fastball was coming

18:45

to change up or a curve. Houston

18:47

knew exactly what was coming. And I'm an old

18:49

baseball player. I much rather

18:52

know what's coming and hit it than you know, produced

18:54

my body up. Yeah, but Doug, you make a team

18:56

like these guys had no baseball ability

18:59

and then they you know, so they had

19:01

the talent to get on a major league roster. Now,

19:03

all of a sudden, I say to Barry Bonds, you're

19:06

already a Hall of Famer. Now I'm going to

19:08

artificially inflate you. What's he going

19:10

to do? Mark Mark McGuire was Rookie

19:12

of the Year and then all of a sudden he got injured

19:15

and started using steroids. Roger Clemen's

19:17

career was done. So you

19:20

can't sit here and go, boy, it didn't help these guys.

19:22

Those guys stole more from the game than

19:24

the Astros did. Those guys stole

19:27

stats, they stole money. I mean,

19:29

they stole history. Come on, ask

19:32

Hank Aaron, ask Roger Merrit's

19:35

you know, family, how they feel about that. Those

19:38

guys stole things. The Astros

19:40

got a World Series. That's the Astros.

19:42

If other guys stole stuff other teams did,

19:44

great, punish them. But don't sit here

19:47

and tell me, Hey, you still got to hit a fastball,

19:49

curveball, or changeup. You have guys

19:51

who are second baseman who had opposite

19:53

field home runs on steroids,

19:56

Doug, and you know that, and

19:58

it doesn't matter with Hey, they didn't

20:00

know what was coming. You could accidentally hit a

20:02

home run. And you saw these guys because

20:04

they had the ability to hit a baseball. Now

20:07

I get you pumped up where you're going to hit the

20:09

ball further, hit it harder. I mean, come

20:11

on, why

20:13

doesn't any of the Houston assholes players need

20:15

to be suspended and stood out like a year like Alex

20:18

Rodriguez did. Dan, I'm all

20:20

for it, Doug. I've said, okay,

20:23

okay, yes, absolutely, and Doug

20:26

Conseco's first ever interview

20:29

on steroids that he was talking

20:31

about, and he did it on my show,

20:34

the first ever interview, and I

20:36

said, you know you're going to be blackballed.

20:39

He came on my show that day and I

20:41

went, oh my god. I don't know if he knows what he

20:43

just did, but I respect

20:46

that. You know, the Conseco was trying to clean up

20:48

the game, but he was only trying to clean up the game because

20:50

he got blackballed. He was angry he got blackballed.

20:52

But I appreciate the phone call here, but don't

20:55

tell me this steroids. You still

20:57

have to hit the baseball. You get to the

20:59

majors because you can hit a baseball. Come

21:03

on, all

21:06

right, let's take a break here. More phone

21:08

calls coming up, and I will bring back.

21:11

We had some fun with the caller yesterday. He sounded just

21:13

like Andrew Luck still not convinced

21:16

that it wasn't Andrew Luck calling in, but coming

21:18

up next, Jason Kendall is a former All Star catcher

21:20

and I wanted to reach out to him. He's like

21:23

top I think he's third on the all time list getting

21:25

hit by a pitch. You know, is

21:27

this going to happen to the Astros? Plus as a catcher

21:29

and he was a great catcher. You know,

21:32

at what point what role is the catcher playing

21:34

all of this? If you hear this and

21:36

then you see them teeing off, at what

21:39

point do you say, hey, guys,

21:41

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23:44

had a caller yesterday and we

23:47

thought, you know, initially I went by, this sounds

23:49

like Andrew Luck, and this

23:52

is how that conversation. What yesterday?

23:58

UM to take my call? I blame

24:01

Wait wait, wait, wait, Lan, is this Andrew

24:04

Luck calling in? Is

24:07

this Andrew Luck? Am I Andrew Luck? It's

24:11

pritzy? Is this Andrew Luck? Are you? Are you punking

24:13

me? I'm not puny, but you

24:16

sound Luck. How

24:18

about this Lance? Could you say I wish

24:21

I wish like a throw like him? Can

24:23

you say we're looking forward to facing

24:25

the Titans, We're

24:27

looking forward to facing the Titans. You

24:33

sound just like Andrew Luck. If you said, hey,

24:36

I'm just sitting at home with my my

24:38

newborn child. Hey,

24:40

I'm just sitting at home with Honestly,

24:48

I honestly,

24:52

have no idea what he sounds like. Honestly,

24:54

it sounds like you Lance, how

24:57

much do you miss that throwing to t Y Hilton?

25:02

You can work well.

25:05

He comes out from my home and we practice every

25:07

now and then. We still we still hit it. Thank you

25:09

Lance. Yeah, that's

25:11

good stuff. Still not convinced

25:13

that was Lance. I don't know either way.

25:16

We haven't gotten any uh neither

25:18

confirmed nor DENI ei there, but that

25:20

was some fun stuff. Also, have you guys seen

25:22

the Tyson Fury Beyande Wilder

25:25

promo that's fight coming up this weekend?

25:28

Is it just me? Or when you watch that promo

25:31

that commercial, it feels like Tyson

25:33

Fury gets to hell beat out of him. How

25:36

did that fight end up in a draw? Because

25:38

Tyson Fury gets knocked down. There's two

25:40

punches, he takes my goal. Wait,

25:43

and this was a draw because

25:46

Wilder boom knocked him down and

25:49

then they show one more thing and then it's like Wilder

25:53

hits him with a you know, a right,

25:56

I don't. I don't know if Tyson Fury lands more

25:58

than one punch in that commerce so that they showed

26:00

for that fight, like, oh my god,

26:05

yeah, point I watched the interview Tyson Fury. He basically

26:08

told the strategy. He said, I have to knock this guy out in the

26:10

first three or four rounds because the ghost through the decision.

26:12

The judges are picking him no matter what happens in the fight,

26:14

because boxing has already decided this is the next guy,

26:17

this is the guy there. I have no chance if I don't knock

26:19

him out. I get that strategy. I understand

26:22

that, but it went to the cards last time and he got

26:24

a draw. And I don't get

26:26

the feeling that whoever's winning

26:28

this the other guy is going to be down

26:30

and out. I get the feeling there.

26:34

Let me see. We'll bring in Jason Kendall. I

26:37

think he was an All Star two or three times,

26:39

three times All Star, And I

26:41

carry from a catcher's perspective of the

26:44

Astros scandal there. What's

26:47

going on? And if you're

26:49

a catcher, aren't you hearing this? Or

26:51

at least you're hearing something and you know that they're tattooing

26:53

a baseball right after that sound effect there

26:56

Jason Kendall, who formed baseball

26:58

catcher And each time I'll start joining

27:01

us on the program. Fifteen years

27:03

in the show. Jason, thanks for joining

27:05

us from a catcher's perspective.

27:07

What are you taking away from this astro's cheating

27:10

scandal? Then

27:12

thanks for having to me. I have a bunch

27:15

of difference, just like everybody else in the baseball

27:17

world opinions on this. But as

27:20

a catcher, if

27:22

you are an O two or

27:25

you're seeing a nasty slider or

27:27

whatever and they're barreling it up, hitting it

27:29

to the point, and what I'm saying is it's not

27:31

your out or your outpitch. Usually

27:34

it's a slider or when you have two strikes and

27:36

you're barreling it up and hitting it. By

27:38

the second inning and somebody's banging on a trash

27:41

can, you're gonna hear it, because

27:43

if the hitter can hear it, the catcher can hear

27:45

it, the umpire can hear it. And one

27:48

of the things I think that's wrong with the game today is

27:50

is nobody wants competation. And I'm

27:52

not saying go and fight somebody.

27:54

I'm just saying, hey, I hear what you're doing

27:57

over there. You got the pitches. I

27:59

know that every clubhouse or dugout

28:01

has monitors, so let's

28:04

knock it off. You're gonna get hitting the ribs, and

28:06

if it continues to happen, you just stand

28:08

there and you just hit people, hit people, hit people

28:10

until it stops. I'll guarantee you if

28:12

somebody's throwing ninety five miles an

28:14

hour, but why

28:17

didn't that happen? Hey stop? But why

28:19

didn't that happen? That if they went an entire

28:21

season and nobody did anything. I find that amazing.

28:24

If somebody knew something, That'd

28:26

be the first thing I would do is I would I would throw

28:28

at somebody, and then I would take matters into

28:30

my own hands. If I'm a player, then

28:33

I would look at doing that. It

28:35

blows my mind in and especially if you take pride

28:38

as a catcher in

28:40

what you do. There's so many meetings that

28:42

go on before a game. How to pitch

28:45

this guy? What did he head off your two one a

28:48

year ago or three months ago. There's

28:50

so many different things that go into calling a

28:52

game, and when

28:54

you hear then how to draft him? This

28:58

ruins all that work and you have to stop.

29:00

Why didn't somebody say something? It's

29:02

an unbelievable question. I

29:05

would have said something instantly, and that's

29:07

what you have to do. But maybe it's because people

29:09

don't want to get suspended, don't want to get fined.

29:13

I don't know. I mean, I have no idea

29:16

how to answer that question. And I know that there

29:18

are certain catches that would have been like, well, time out.

29:21

I know this is going on. It needs

29:23

to stop. If not, somebody's

29:25

gonna get hurt and we're gonna go from

29:27

there. But how prevalent is this kind of

29:29

signs feeling? It's it's not just the Astros,

29:31

and we know that the Red Sox are on the hook waiting

29:34

to get their punishment with technology

29:36

doing something illegal. How prevalent is

29:39

that in baseball? Oh,

29:41

it's probably everywhere. I mean, obviously you have your

29:44

let's play the game still signs

29:46

a second base. But I would never take my mask off, and if

29:48

I spot somebody at second base with steal and signs,

29:50

I would go out to the mound and I would

29:53

let them know whoever it was on second base. Yeah, you keep

29:55

looking at him, you keep letting

29:57

him know whether it be a location, and you have to

29:59

set up the right time. Yeah. But Jason, I'm

30:01

fine if you steal from second base, I put that

30:04

on you. The catchupsolutely. But but

30:06

I'm talking about with a TV camera, with TV

30:08

monitors. How prevalent is that it's

30:11

not just the Astros and not just the Red Sox.

30:13

I'm in my opinion, Oh I

30:15

bet it's everybody. And you know what the thing

30:17

and here's something then before you is I

30:19

don't know how many players have played this game twenty thousand,

30:22

give or take. But if

30:24

you think about that, most baseball stadiums

30:27

sell out art and now sell out, have twenty thousand

30:29

people at a game, most

30:31

stadiums. These guys are that

30:33

good. That's all they do. They hit, hit,

30:36

hit hit, and it's only what I haven't heard one person say

30:38

is listen, I was. I'd

30:40

like to say that I was a decent hit, especially earlier.

30:42

My if I knew what was coming every

30:45

pitch, I'm kind of hit four

30:48

hundred. Now put this

30:50

in perspective. Now, now, now go and look at

30:53

a twenty gwin. But George Brett,

30:55

Mike Trout, now you know where I'm I'm going with this.

30:58

These guys might hit five fifty because

31:00

that's what we do. Now, you look at players

31:02

in your own division that you see our

31:04

pictures in your own division, that you see I

31:07

don't know, four or five times a year. Do

31:09

you know how their fastball jumps

31:11

at the end? You know how much their cutter cuts

31:13

are. Now you know these pictures

31:15

because you face them so many times. Now you know what's

31:19

It's unbelievable that this went on for so

31:21

long. And I have I

31:23

love what other players are saying. I love you

31:26

know the punishments. You know what, if you want a punishment,

31:28

you haven't give the ring back, have them

31:30

give the share money back, give

31:34

it to a charity. Why hasn't anybody called out

31:36

the Players Union Players Union,

31:39

I have no They're protecting the

31:41

players, Jason. I mean, the

31:43

commissioner is basically saying I did all

31:45

I could do. Now, whether you agree with

31:47

that or not, I don't agree with that, and he could

31:49

have done and I would take away the trophy.

31:52

But the Players Union is protecting

31:54

these players who cheated and

31:57

all the other players who are in the union. You

31:59

know they have a problem with this. But everybody's

32:01

criticizing the commissioner. Nobody's criticizing

32:04

their own players Union. I

32:07

agree one hundred percent, and it is one of

32:09

the if not the strongest

32:11

union in This goes back to when

32:15

played yeah. Yeah, it's

32:17

the strongest union in the world. And that's

32:19

why though the strikes or the lockouts that we've

32:21

that we've had over the you know, since

32:24

however long, that's why it's

32:26

not going to break and that's why now it's

32:29

a good thing. But I mean a lot of players, whether

32:31

they are reps on the teams, they

32:34

don't go to these meetings. They don't sit there and stand

32:37

up for themselves, stand up for the players. I'm

32:39

not saying everybody, because there are

32:41

a certain group of guys that take it

32:43

serious as far as going to these union meetings when they

32:45

have them. But if I was still

32:47

playing, I would go to these meetings like, hey, what

32:50

is going on? Yeah, but the steroid

32:53

users too, Oh, without

32:55

a doubt it, without a doubt, Dan, I mean, it's

32:58

it's to me,

33:00

this is very very similar to that. I

33:03

mean, but yet the Sterford users

33:05

still, uh, no one was coming. I

33:08

know. If you are that good of a

33:10

hitter, which all these guys in the big leagues

33:13

are, then you know what's coming. Why

33:16

aren't people hitting the asses?

33:18

They should have had guys hitting for fifty

33:21

Well, you don't want to be you don't want to be too good

33:23

there, then you're really going to stand out. But if I said

33:25

I'll give you steroids, I'll give you you

33:28

know what the pitch is going to be and you won't get

33:30

caught. Which one would you take? You

33:33

know what? I wouldn't take anything because the steroids

33:35

you're gonna die early. That was my biggest

33:37

things. I'm like, you want to take steroids, I could care less

33:39

because you know what, I'm gonna die and you're gonna How

33:41

about I take steroids off the table from

33:43

the standpoint that they're going to kill you? So yeah,

33:46

okay, I would. I would. I would want

33:48

to know what's coming, Okay, every pitch

33:50

because I'm gonna hit four hundred. Okay,

33:53

if you would be cool? If you're the catch,

33:55

you're opening day against the Astros, what

33:59

are you calling? What are you on? Well?

34:02

I guess my only advice to the assers was and

34:04

I wore this throughout my career. I

34:06

had a huge not a huge, but I learned

34:09

how to use it as the Douglas pad for my

34:11

cold bow. First

34:13

and foremost, I would probably have

34:15

their trainers order a bunch

34:17

of them armor, some

34:21

arm or so and learn how

34:23

to use it. Can you get a little a little

34:25

suit of armor for all two they're

34:29

gonna have to get a bunch of armor for holes. But

34:31

you know what it's funny is it's gonna happen

34:34

and for everybody. Oh, I listen, Dusty

34:37

Baker is unbelievable, and I kind

34:39

of feel back on because it's gonna happen, and it's

34:41

gonna be the oh you know what, it's slipped. Well,

34:44

you know what, these guys took money out

34:46

of other players, other clubhouse

34:48

guys. You can even go deeper than this, And I

34:51

mean it's life changing money for a clubhouse

34:53

kid, or a clubhouse worker,

34:55

or a train it's life changing money

34:58

for them to get a marshal

35:00

share. Maybe you're full share, depending if you

35:02

was to team the whole year. It's it's

35:05

life changing money. These guys messed

35:07

with other people's lives. I know that

35:09

sounds really serious, but you know what it actually is. And

35:13

when I say life changing money, maybe paying

35:15

off your house, maybe getting

35:17

a car and having no car payments, it's little things

35:19

like that that they took away. And

35:21

who's to say these guys didn't go out and

35:24

be like, hey, you know what, we

35:27

got the signs to one of their buddies or siblings.

35:29

Why don't you go to Vegas and put some money on them. Nobody's

35:31

even said that. I'm not saying it happened Dan

35:34

by no means. But if

35:36

you know you're getting the signs, and if

35:38

you have one of your buddies at home, who's

35:41

you know working at Exon, which is there's nothing wrong

35:43

with that. That's trying to make a house payment.

35:45

Hey dude, what do you got the signs? Go get

35:47

and put some money on us. Because we know it's

35:49

company. Who's to say that didn't. I mean, if you were to get

35:52

a private detective and go get the paper

35:55

trails, it will pop up, I'll

35:57

guarantee. Because you don't know that for

35:59

a fact, I'll leave you with this. Who do you

36:01

consider the twenty seventeen World

36:03

Series, kid, I'd

36:08

like to think the Yankees, And I'm

36:10

just going down by what I was

36:13

watching at those times.

36:15

I mean, obviously the Dodgers and the Astros

36:19

played in the World Series, but I think the Yankees

36:21

had a better team. I

36:24

would. I mean the Daughters were great too, and

36:26

just left it vacated. That's all. If if

36:28

I can't punish the players. The one thing that

36:31

I think allows people to move on as

36:34

Hey, we'll take away the titan. You know, we always

36:36

hear, hey, you can take away to take the banners down.

36:38

You can do that. We still have our memories there. The Astros

36:40

fans will still have their memories. But you

36:43

know there is that I don't want this. Hey, look

36:45

at their faces and the shame on their faces. As the

36:47

commissioner told me that that's not a deterrent.

36:50

Oh, look at the shame do you? I mean the

36:52

steroid guys. You know, I don't think they

36:54

felt that bad when they were catching checks because they had

36:56

artificially inflated stats. So I don't

36:59

know if they went there, and no, no

37:01

way they didn't. And I'll guarantee you the Houston

37:04

Astros players didn't

37:06

have a problem cash and their share

37:09

checks either. But I thought you were asking me.

37:12

I agree with you one hundred percent. It should

37:14

be completely vacant. They should get back the rings, get

37:16

back their share, and move on and then

37:19

go forward with it. But who knows what's going to happen.

37:21

It's it's a debacle, and you know

37:23

it's it's one of those things that

37:26

hopefully it goes away soon, which I don't think

37:28

it is not. It's not. It's going to stay with

37:30

L two Bay and stay with this commissioner the rest

37:33

of their careers. Jay's great to hear from

37:35

you. It's always thanks for for joining

37:37

us, Dan anytime. Thanks Grabs.

37:40

Jason Kemball Kendall, three time All Star played

37:42

with the Pirates and third on the all time list

37:44

of getting hit by a pitch as well. Yeah, over

37:47

two thousand hits, so

37:50

he know it's a thing or two about playing the position and

37:52

also hitting as well. But I would

37:54

I just can't imagine if you said to George Brad

37:57

or Tony Gwen or Wade Boggs, hey, this

38:00

is what's coming. Just that

38:02

advantage. I like how some players go. Now,

38:04

I didn't want to know, you know, the last

38:06

thing. It's too confusing when you're up there.

38:10

Who doesn't want to know the latto numbers.

38:12

Nope, Nope, too confusing. I'd rather play

38:15

the latto myself. I got my own system here.

38:17

Yeah, that sounds like somebody who knew the pitches

38:19

were coming done a lot of Actually, yeah,

38:21

of course I don't want to enough. Na, No,

38:23

it's throwing me out of my rhythm. Take a break here

38:25

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now back to the show. Let

40:55

some people reach out and say, why did you recommend

40:58

that movie Parasite? It

41:00

won the Academy Award, Like, don't

41:03

blame me if you don't like it. I liked

41:06

it. I told you, Jojo Rabbit to me

41:08

was the best movie I saw if you wanted

41:10

to see something that was really ingenious

41:12

and how it was presented, the storyline

41:15

with it. Scarlett Johansson was great,

41:18

you know, the little boy in it was wonderful.

41:21

Yeah, I thought that there were uncut gems.

41:23

Is as good as any movie I saw this year. It

41:26

was, but Parasite

41:28

was something different. And you

41:31

know, if you don't like it, don't blame me. Do you fully

41:33

recommend it or partially recom I

41:35

recommend it. I don't fully recommend

41:37

it. I like I recommend it. Yes,

41:41

I watched this movie recently, just it's

41:43

a couple of years old, from like twenty

41:45

fourteen. I think it's called Forrest

41:48

Major Well, and

41:50

it's have you seen that? Yes?

41:53

And not only that, I think we've

41:56

played the clip of the one scene.

41:58

Yeah, I've heard all about it. It's about the avalanche.

42:00

Yeah. This dude is on vacation with his family

42:03

and like the French Alps, I think, and

42:06

they're sitting having lunch and there's an

42:08

avalanche coming their way and

42:10

the guy when he's there with his

42:12

family and his kids are getting scared and he's just like no, I don't

42:15

worry about it. It's controlled. Like they're sitting at

42:17

a restaurant having lunch at a ski resort. They

42:19

have controlled avalanches. Don't worry about it. But

42:21

it comes really really close to them and

42:24

it gets really scary. And as that's

42:26

happening, the dad gets up and runs

42:28

away and leaves the wife with the kids.

42:31

But then the sort of the avalanche becomes

42:33

not a big deal, but the fallout of him getting

42:36

up and running away, it's just like whole

42:39

life just unravels from that moment. It

42:41

is fascinating. It's an unbelievable

42:44

movie. Last time I watched

42:46

What We Do in the Shadows. Have

42:49

you guys seen that? I've seen part

42:51

of it. Zombies. So, the director

42:54

of Joejoe Rabbit, and he plays Hitler

42:56

in that movie, is one of the stars.

42:58

He's one of the zombies in this mockumentary

43:01

that is shot in New Zealand with a bunch of

43:04

vampires that are or zombies

43:06

that are three hundred and fifty years old.

43:09

It's a it's I'm not a zombie

43:11

guy, but to watch how

43:14

they did this, it's it's really funny.

43:17

It's about an hour and twenty minutes. I

43:19

would I would fully recommend that

43:21

of something that is totally bizarre and

43:24

great lines, some great writing

43:26

in there, mclove and you've seen just clips of Well.

43:28

They also did a TV show based on the

43:30

movie. It's got all the guys from Flight of the Concords.

43:33

Have you ever seen that? The se duo on HPO? I

43:35

know who they are. Yeah, so I've seen

43:37

parts of it. They reset the movie in Queens

43:39

and did an American version of it. That was

43:42

so. I thought it was all vampire. I haven't seen enough. I thought

43:44

it was most of the vampires or zombies. I

43:46

don't I don't know. Yea. So he also

43:48

did thora Ragnarok, which a lot of people

43:50

think is one of the better Marvel movie. Man, it's

43:53

vampires. They play vampires.

43:55

Yes, ever seen thor Ragdaro? No? Do

43:57

you like it? It's funny? Uh?

44:01

David and Boston. Hey David, what do you have for me today?

44:04

Hey? Dan? How are you good? Sir? Excellent?

44:07

I was just calling curious why you recommended

44:09

the movie Parasite. Thank you,

44:11

David. Actually the movie

44:14

that you can just mentioned, I forget

44:16

it was. It was an excellent movie. What

44:19

we do in the shadows. Yeah, it

44:21

was really cool. It was really like the dynamics how

44:24

this one, how the father kind of jumps

44:26

from the avalanche m and leaves

44:29

the family behind, but everybody

44:31

survived it. It's an interesting film. Um

44:34

my question to you was, I'm out a baseball

44:36

fan, but Mansfield, who's

44:39

the commission again? Fred?

44:43

I would just like to know what you would round

44:45

as because I always figured

44:48

that the union for the

44:50

NBA was apex number

44:53

one, the NFL was at the bottom.

44:55

But it seems as if the MLB union

44:58

of the baseball, the base union

45:00

has always been the strongest. Thank you, David. Yes,

45:03

Marvin Miller. Going back to Marvin Miller, he's always

45:05

smarter than anybody on the owner's side.

45:08

Ronald and Idaho, Hey, Ronald, Hey,

45:13

Ron can

45:16

you hear me? Ron gone

45:20

Gus in Los Angeles? Hey, guys, Hey,

45:25

then miss present think of taking my phone call? Yeah?

45:28

Look, I just quickly wanted to touch base

45:30

about how serious this, the

45:33

whole stupid cheating thing has become, because

45:35

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45:38

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45:40

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45:55

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45:58

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46:00

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46:02

guys need to be dealt with. You know. It's

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46:06

you know, but I don't care about the trophy or whatever.

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But look at what we're literally talking about now.

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Yeah, but we can't do anything about the players.

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