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You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show

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on Fox Sports Radio Final

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hour in this Thursday, our

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final hour before we set sale

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on vacation. So our Meat Friday

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is a meat Thursday. Oh,

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we never miss a meat Friday. Meet

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Friday lineup today brisket, burgers,

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brots, pigs in a blanket, pasta

0:21

salad, and corn on the cob altogether.

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Now, who has it better than we do? Absolutely

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not. Tyler the operator standing

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by for your phone calls. Also, he

0:32

is our chef and he's doing dope.

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Well, he's got three duties. He takes

0:36

care of my dog, my

0:38

puppy. He also cooks on Meat Friday,

0:41

and he answers our phone calls in that

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order. That's the importance of taking care of

0:45

my puppy and cooking

0:47

and then answering your phone calls. Yes, sometimes

0:50

he does all three at once, because I saw him

0:52

back there screening calls, talking about well, we

0:54

can't add that to the menu today because we've already got

0:56

pigs in a blanket and that might be redne at while

0:59

taking care of winning giving her some biscuits

1:01

too. It's yeah, multitasking.

1:03

Well, he did win Most Valuable BRG

1:06

last year. M VBRG. Yeah, I

1:08

don't know if he can go back to back. I

1:10

don't know if he can. I think

1:13

there's a leader in the clubhouse right now for

1:15

most valuable back room guy. The

1:22

halfway point, most valuable back

1:24

room guy. We got odds or Draft

1:27

Kings have odds? Draft Kings, You

1:29

guys want to guess Draft Kings

1:31

does not have odds on this Yes

1:34

time, I'm gonna say that. Quiet

1:36

guy Rob Rob

1:40

Rob the Knicks Jets fans. Yeah,

1:43

with his flowing long hair. Robbio

1:46

All right, oh Seaton, I'm

1:48

gonna guess its Ray Ray

1:52

Day. The other are okay?

1:56

Uh Marv who

1:58

used to be a back room guy. Yeah,

2:00

then I moved up. You

2:03

know. You

2:05

know what I'm gonna go. Mario the scrub

2:08

Mario. Okay. I played

2:10

golf with Mario and Ray yesterday.

2:13

That was about you lost. Uh no,

2:15

you know what. It was Ray's birthday the day

2:17

before, and I thought, let me bring him

2:20

out. And then I can't have Mario

2:22

and Tyler play together because those

2:24

two don't like each other. And

2:27

I thought, let me invite Mario because

2:29

I always feel good about my game after being

2:31

out there with Mario. So I invited Mario and we

2:33

had a nice afternoon. Boys had a

2:35

couple of beers there. All right, Paulie

2:37

back room halfway MVP

2:41

is you know, I don't

2:43

know if Weeks the cameraman has been

2:45

awarded anything in the past couple of years.

2:47

I would say that's a good guess right now, leader

2:50

in the clubhouse is our cameraman Weeks

2:54

week sauce, great cameraman, But

2:57

how many cameraman woud

3:00

and then mow the grass or

3:02

he'll fertilize the front yard here. My guess

3:04

is that's the one in America that that's the only

3:07

cameraman who does that. And

3:09

uh, Weeks Weeks is sort of mcgiver

3:12

that he's capable of doing a lot of things

3:14

here, and uh he's he's very

3:16

valuable to this program. So right now

3:19

halfway point, Fritzy, most valuable,

3:21

Danette, And yes,

3:24

Todd is most valuable. Yes, it's his

3:26

to lose. Wait,

3:28

you sounded like you

3:30

you're making a trying to present a

3:32

campaign there, Seaton, just because you move back

3:34

to mclovin's seat. No,

3:36

No, I don't know that's necessarily me. But I

3:39

find Todd to be a shocking choice. Why

3:43

Wow, no offense. Wow. Okay,

3:46

all right, let me let me hear why that's

3:48

a that's a shocking front runner. Well,

3:52

some of his content has been relegated to the newsletter.

3:54

You're referring to him as the big segment because he's

3:56

booked one big guest in six months.

3:59

Um, I don't know's

4:01

I could go on? If we really want to do that, please

4:03

do Todd

4:08

a rebuttal? Wait? Who are

4:10

you calling a rebuttal? Actually

4:14

know Todd was here today? Okay,

4:17

Yes, his limericks have been relegated

4:19

to the newsletter, but I was doing

4:21

it because then I want to pump up those numbers

4:24

for those who receive the newsletter. And that's

4:26

what you know, four hundred people signed

4:28

up from the newsletter who would not signed up. But

4:30

that may have backfried, because then you're not factoring in those that have

4:32

said, you know what, I don't know if I need this, six hundred

4:34

said that they didn't want it. Und Now

4:37

are you feelings hurt by your back row

4:40

bro a little bit? I'm hoping it's more content

4:42

to stuff Final Hour not a lot

4:44

going on. Didn't sell Seaton? Is that

4:47

real? Is that content? That's

4:51

I mean it's on the air. Nothing

4:53

non denial, denial is it? Is

4:55

it content or is it real? It's called real

4:58

content. It could be called I think it doesn' choir

5:00

like we were putting, you know, pitching who it should

5:02

be with the reasons why I'm

5:04

saying that you are right now, But

5:08

I will say this. I will say this. You

5:11

are the leading candidate for the most Valuable

5:14

Danet that could easily lose because

5:17

somebody is fast approaching.

5:20

You know, sometimes you'll watch, you know,

5:22

the horse racing,

5:24

and you forget to look behind. You don't

5:28

look now, but Marvin

5:31

is gaining on you. He's right there, Yes

5:33

he is new T shirts.

5:35

Just came out to see he's got a couple of T shirts.

5:37

You're in small hands, yes,

5:39

PAULI Who do you think I

5:41

would vote for for most Valuable Danette

5:43

at the halfway point? Including myself, which I might vote

5:46

for, but I'm not. I didn't say that. I'm

5:48

not opposed to that. Okay, who do you think I would

5:50

pick? Objectively? Seaton?

5:54

I would say Seaton because when we lost mclove

5:57

and we lost a good amount of content

6:00

and content ideas, and Seaton

6:02

has done a fine job replacing

6:04

that fine job. Well whatever, it is better than

6:06

a find. He's done an excellent job of replacing

6:08

that in the past six months as the content

6:10

person, which is kind of my role on the show. Seton

6:13

has helped me very much.

6:15

Okay, yeah, Seton turns out it really wasn't

6:17

all that much work though, So maybe we're overrating Andrew

6:19

all this time, because if I can slide right

6:22

in into a fine job, then it's not a very difficult

6:24

job. That's fine too. Who

6:27

would you vote for for most valuable?

6:29

Danette Fritzie? Who would

6:31

I vote for? I might

6:34

go Marvin because that's that's a lot to throw with somebody

6:36

that you know, we've been doing this for a number of years and the

6:38

on air content and juggling a lot of a new

6:40

responsibility. I'd

6:43

probably go Paul because,

6:46

like he said, the removing Andrew,

6:48

that was sort of like his main person

6:51

to ping ideas off of, and they usually went

6:53

back and forth quite a bit. So I think losing that

6:55

has been more of a struggle,

6:57

probably for Paul than anybody else. Marv.

7:00

Who would you pick most valuable? Danna? I'm

7:03

gonna go seat and just moving from

7:05

here to the back, and it kind of taking

7:07

mclovin spot in a way and adding

7:10

more to the content and okay,

7:12

yeah, uh Paully.

7:15

You know, Paulli is working

7:17

against Paul, so you

7:19

know it's like when you put up great numbers

7:21

and then you go all right, and he did

7:23

it again. So it's not like there's any

7:25

fluctuation a fluctuation so

7:28

little Lebron James effect. Yeah, kind of interesting.

7:31

Yeah, but you

7:33

know he probably is not going to win Most

7:35

Valuable. Marvin's sort of the Jannis like, well

7:38

new and sighting, Yeah,

7:41

looking for new stories. No, but Yanni's won

7:43

a championship, Like we lost the Sports

7:46

Emmy. Oh but no, but this is Marvin's

7:48

first year on the books for the Sports Emmy.

7:51

He was on the books as being in the

7:53

content share if we win the Sports Emmy

7:55

next year, Marvin, can you know

7:57

what? That's Larry Bird with his finger three

8:00

point shooting content? Marvin's little hands in the

8:02

area.

8:05

Would they be able to see the finger? Look

8:07

like little hands with the finger? Wait? Zoom

8:09

in, Wait, he's got a stub

8:11

that he's holding up there. What happened?

8:14

I'm number half. It's

8:21

his legacy. The IndyCar Series Motors

8:24

on NBC and Peacock. Next Top Mid

8:26

Ohio IndyCar Sunday at twelve thirty

8:28

Eastern on NBC and Peacock, oh

8:31

We touched on a variety of topics. Michael Wilbon

8:34

is gonna join us, Wilburn um I

8:37

see. We talked about the Hawks with the trade

8:39

de John Ta Murray, m Bradley

8:41

Beale, free agent James Harden is

8:44

probably gonna redo his deal. We

8:46

talked about Freddie Freeman a lot, Deshaun

8:49

Watson. I was told that in

8:52

the NFL camp they're split that

8:54

there I guess some people with the NFL

8:57

who would like to have this

8:59

overwhelm, and then there are others that are

9:01

holding out for an indefinite suspension. Amani

9:04

Bates is going to Eastern Michigan. I

9:07

don't know if you remember the name, but the name has

9:09

been around for about five

9:11

years now. I think in eighth grade

9:14

is when I first heard about Amani Bates, and

9:16

then I thought he might go to

9:18

Michigan State. He's from Michigan. But you started

9:20

to hear about this player, Monty Bates. The

9:23

Monty Bates. He was three

9:25

time player of the Year in the state Michigan

9:28

I thought, wow, is he going to Michigan Michigan

9:30

State going to go duke? He ends up

9:32

going to Memphis play for Penny Hardaway,

9:35

got injured, he played, Okay,

9:38

he's transferring to Eastern Michigan.

9:42

I guess going back home. Eastern Michigan

9:44

is not known as a basketball powerhouse

9:47

by any stretch of the imagination. But Monty

9:50

Bates he was supposed to

9:52

be. Hey, he could come right out

9:54

of high school. And then it was well, he'll be one

9:56

and done. Now he's going to

9:58

Eastern Michigan. Yeah. More.

10:01

On the cover of Sports Illustrated, it says

10:04

magic Michael Lebron in

10:06

the fifteen year old who's next in line? Wow,

10:11

some pressure there. It's like, you know, Jabari

10:14

Parker, remember that the next Lebron.

10:18

I go back to two thousand and

10:20

three. The top quarterback prospect,

10:24

Kyle Wright went to the University

10:26

of Miami. He threw thirty eight touchdowns

10:29

thirty one picks in his career. Max Browner

10:31

twenty thirteen. He was a backup

10:34

replaced by Sam Darnold, you

10:36

know, becoming a star in college.

10:38

When we project like arch Manning, everybody

10:41

assumes, well, the bloodlines are there,

10:43

you know you got his dad, grandfather,

10:46

you got I mean, you got Peyton,

10:48

you got Eli. Cooper was a great

10:50

athlete. It's gonna work,

10:53

right. I never

10:55

you can never say never, but

10:58

you know, would I have down? Yeah? Let me let

11:00

me just see how this plays out. He's

11:04

gonna be great. Okay,

11:07

It's we're in such a hurry now that

11:09

we want to christen somebody. Hey,

11:11

I was first one. It's like when you find

11:13

the band before they become the band, You're

11:15

like, I was there. I was

11:18

there with you too before anybody else would.

11:20

Uh, we were right there with

11:22

the Monty Bates. And look where

11:24

we are now with the Monty Bates. Yeah, Marph

11:27

Mitch Mustaine was another guy. Oh

11:29

yeah, Arkansas, yep. And

11:32

Jimmy Claus and Jimmy Claus and there's

11:34

there's been so many guys, especially at the quarterback

11:36

position where it's like, what happened to that guy?

11:38

Yeah, I'm trying to think. And

11:40

it feels like the quarterbacking position

11:42

that might be harder to handicap because

11:45

of the offense you play in the competition

11:47

you play against a lot of times

11:49

with basketball, these guys everybody sort

11:51

of knows who everybody is with the aau

11:54

uh portion of this that

11:56

you're playing against a lot of these guys. You

11:59

get invited to the camps, the abc

12:01

D camp, Nike camp,

12:04

they're aware of each other football.

12:06

You might get the seven on sevens and

12:08

you're aware, uh baseball

12:12

traveling teams maybe, but

12:14

you know when you're trying to his Quarterbacking

12:17

is still the hardest position in all the sports,

12:20

so handicapping quarterbacks

12:23

is equally as difficult. Yes, and the quarterback

12:25

transfer portal for college football has become the

12:27

most interesting thing of the entire offseason. Like an

12:30

offensive guard transfers to Georgia.

12:32

The local fans know that and that's a big deal. Yeah,

12:34

But the you know when when like guys like uh, you

12:37

know Shay Patterson member from Old miss

12:39

to Michigan. You can get one of these guys

12:41

for one year that could save a program or elevator

12:43

program West in Mississippi,

12:45

Hi West. What's on your mind today?

12:49

Niver Morne and gentlemen, Happy early

12:52

July fourth, still six

12:54

foot and one eighty five Marvin

12:57

or Satan m

13:00

pauled in one year ago when

13:02

the Mister State Bulldogs won them. Natty

13:05

and y'all wree on to say West, you

13:07

get roughed up by drinking Natty light

13:09

and all that, and

13:11

Dan you went on to say, uh, call

13:13

me back. We know about strows or Black

13:16

well, believe or not, my last name

13:18

is black the Latt

13:23

All right, well that's not the same as Blats.

13:26

Paully's is papsed exactly.

13:28

God six, West, thank you, thank

13:30

you for calling you. I'm not

13:32

sure why West called in, but it's

13:35

he's his name is black, like

13:37

David Blatt who coached the cat. Paully

13:40

is papsed like the beer. And

13:42

people think that Paully is somehow affiliated

13:44

with the family to wish. They say, got more beer Barry

13:47

and Santa Fe than We'll take a break. Michael Wilbon

13:49

will join us. Coming up. Good

13:53

morning Rollo, Good morning chat Row. When

13:56

I was working in

13:58

radio in the to New

14:00

York in the early eighties, we

14:02

drank this facq the beer called

14:04

Gobels, which was about two

14:07

fifty a case. Yep. And

14:10

in college, red White

14:13

and Blue and honest beer and Honest

14:15

Surprise, which is actually cheap

14:17

past I

14:19

had getting Yeah, I've had Red White and

14:21

Blue before, and thank you Berry,

14:24

I've had Gobles we called

14:26

it Joe Bell's. So

14:29

I took my wife. She was my girlfriend,

14:32

and one of our first dates, we went to a wedding

14:34

and we stopped

14:36

at the drive through liquor store in my

14:39

hometown and we loaded up on

14:41

beer. We got Gobals,

14:43

but I called it Joe Bell's and Doritos,

14:46

and we took a three hour road trip to

14:48

a wedding and she

14:52

she would never try Gobbles

14:54

or Doritos. But we're on

14:56

the road, and I had a buddy

14:58

Woodsy and said, woodsye, you drive and

15:02

I'll do the drinking. So we had Joe

15:05

Bell's and Dorito You bought that at no

15:08

we had to drive through. We had Lose Pony

15:11

Keg and you could actually

15:13

drive through the liquor store. And

15:16

now I told you the story. My dad

15:18

was there when they got robbed. One night. My dad's in

15:20

there getting a you know, beer

15:23

and whiskey, and some guy

15:25

came in to hold up the place. My dad

15:27

had to get out of the car and they were never

15:29

serving him a drink and he had

15:31

to lie down on the floor while this guy robbed

15:33

the liquor store. Dad

15:36

gone back in the car, came home and he

15:38

told my mom's like, I

15:41

would just at the drive through

15:43

and got robbed, and she's like, you did not.

15:45

She's like, yes, And I was down on the ground, there

15:48

was a guy with a gun, the whole thing. I

15:50

don't know if my mom ever believed

15:52

him. She thought that maybe he was just at the pleasure

15:54

in having a couple of drinks. I

15:57

don't know if I believe my dad. God

15:59

Rest his soul. We'll take a

16:01

break. More phone calls coming up. Michael

16:03

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live waiting for Michael Wilbon to join

16:53

us. More of your phone calls

16:55

as well. I was looking at the top

16:57

recruits. Everybody assumes that che

17:00

Manning is going to be great, right

17:03

high school quarterbacks, you know, I go

17:05

back. Vince Young turned out to be great.

17:08

Kyle Wright went to the U

17:10

in two thousand and three. Rhett Bomar

17:13

went to Oklahoma. These are the top rated

17:15

quarterbacks, Mark Sanchez,

17:18

Matthew Stafford, Jimmy

17:22

Clauson Notre Dame, at Oseven Trell

17:25

Prior, Ohio State, Matt Barkley

17:27

USC, Philip Sims

17:29

Alabama, Jeff Driscoll

17:32

Florida, Jameis Winston

17:34

Florida State, Max

17:36

Brown USC, Kyle

17:38

Allen, A and M

17:40

Josh Rosen, Shaye Patterson. Shaye

17:43

Patterson went to Mississippi and then to Michigan.

17:46

Davis Mills, Stanford, Trevor

17:48

Lawrence, Spencer, Ratler,

17:50

Bryce Young, Quinn ewers Man.

17:55

That's a that's a hit or miss list

17:57

there. Yeah, point, It's also interesting a lot of the

18:00

top recruits they play a year or two to school

18:02

and then there's a hotter recruits and

18:04

they cool off. Remember the

18:06

guy at Clemson and Deshaan Kelly

18:09

Bryant, Yeah, you know he was playing great.

18:11

You know you look at DJ he

18:14

cooled off a little bit last year. If there's someone

18:16

who could replace him? J C. Daniels

18:18

remember reading about him in high school? Yeah?

18:20

How many schools? Zon? Let's

18:23

see Ryan and South

18:26

Dakota. Hi, Ryan, what's on your mind today?

18:29

Marne and Dana? Ryan? Hey,

18:32

quick question for you and the fellows. Just wanted the

18:34

beer question heading into the

18:36

holiday here, you or the

18:38

fellows have a beer that you've had a

18:40

bad experience with that you just can't get

18:42

in here anymore, whether you

18:45

had too much of it or what have

18:47

you. But for me, Rolling

18:49

Rock would be that beer due

18:52

to the fact that before the

18:54

the Oklahoma Texas football game in the fall

18:56

of nineteen ninety seven, you

18:58

get a picture of it for a quarter at a bar

19:01

down by the stadium, and uh,

19:04

you know, I don't know that anybody's been more banged up

19:06

off of two bucks than the people I saw that,

19:08

But it's Rolling Rock for me, all right, I

19:11

mind, I think would have to be hard

19:13

liquor. I don't think there are any bad beer

19:15

experiences, Like remember

19:20

what was the You could mix it together

19:22

orange juice and a

19:24

screwdriver. Oh yeah yeah,

19:27

Boone's Farm, Mad Dog, Mad

19:29

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com. Jeff and Ohio, Hi Jeff,

19:48

what's on your mind today? Hey

19:50

Dan? There's one beer

19:52

that was manufactured in Cincinnati.

19:55

I don't believe I heard you mention it yet, but that is

19:57

Little King Yeah, Little King's Cream Ail. Yeah,

20:00

the little seven ounce bottles. Those

20:03

things had several advantages.

20:05

One of them as they got

20:07

cold quickly because they were such a small

20:10

bottle. Two, they

20:12

never really got warm because they weren't

20:14

around long enough. It only took two

20:16

or three good pulls on a bottle to empty

20:18

them. And number three, you're

20:20

my age, So a

20:23

lot of us used to wear army fatigue

20:26

jackets, and those things had

20:28

about twenty pockets and

20:31

you could literally get a case of little

20:33

kings all around

20:35

your body and sneak into

20:37

the football game as long as nobody

20:39

bumped into you, because of you would clank.

20:43

So if you could sneak in without getting bumped

20:45

into, you were good. Thank you, Jeff. Yeah,

20:47

it's like you're bringing in grenades.

20:50

Just don't bump into me. Little King's

20:52

Cream Ail, the shorties would

20:54

like those as well, but that

20:57

was another green bottle, Little

20:59

King's Cream. Leah in New

21:01

York, Hey, Lee, what's on your mind today? Warren

21:05

Dan, thanks for taking the call. I

21:08

was wondering you ever hear of Jenny red Eye.

21:11

No, yeah's

21:14

Genesee from upstate New

21:16

York. Okay,

21:18

yep, Genesee Cremel also okay,

21:22

yeah there everybody's got a

21:24

local beer. But I remember

21:28

Jenny Cremel. I thought that was from

21:30

Pennsylvania. Jenny

21:33

Jenny Creemle or Genesee beer.

21:36

Uh. James in Virginia joins

21:39

us, Hi, James, what's on your mind? Oh?

21:42

Thank you for taking my call. Brother. Happy Thursday,

21:45

Friday, fourth of July weekend,

21:47

Happy July DP damn

21:50

that we are the commanders

21:52

man from Lucan commanders Man. I'm

21:54

just calling the man because the end of the day, I wanted

21:56

to say Happy Fourth of July, of course, But the end of the

21:58

show yesterday, nobody wanted

22:00

to take the commanders over eight wins

22:02

man, and I caught him before about

22:05

this, Batman, But I want this to be the last

22:07

time I asked for it. This will be the last

22:09

year. So I'm gonna take it a step further. Then I'm

22:12

gonna say, the Commanders win

22:14

the NFC East. Commanders

22:17

win the NFC East. If they win,

22:19

I get to come in for the day and hang out

22:21

on a meet Friday. If they lose,

22:23

I whole sponsor and meet Friday for y'all,

22:26

man, So you know I'm always loving

22:28

to listen guys. Man, y'all have a wonderful port

22:30

for July weekend in the vacation, and I

22:32

can't wait to see y'all after the Commanders win the NFC

22:35

A great day, Marv. Did you want a piece of James

22:37

and Virginia? There, I'm taking that off, Okay,

22:39

all right, Marv's gonna take you up on that.

22:42

James loves his commanders. He

22:45

loves them, maybe a little too much. I wish

22:47

I loved anything the commanders.

22:49

Your wife wishes that you loved her as

22:51

much as James loves the commanders. Oh.

22:53

Absolutely, He's always looking for the positives.

22:56

There always Seaton

22:58

update the poll results. We Uh,

23:01

if Fritzie can't find Michael Wilbon, he

23:03

doesn't get any of the mini

23:05

hot dogs. No, no,

23:09

well the big segment. No, no,

23:11

Willlbon, no mini hot dogs.

23:13

Oh, Todd's over there on their phone, will

23:18

scrambling, scrambling. Oh

23:22

the photograph. Okay, Todd

23:27

is uh see, you don't want to do this on

23:29

the last day before you have vacation where

23:31

you're yeah, you know you final guests

23:33

before Pauli'll do is Fritzie,

23:36

And it appears to the zoom is not working.

23:38

We can go to the phone. We'll go to the zoom is not what. I'll

23:40

send you link it send you the link again. You had to link. I'll

23:42

send a link again. Uh,

23:47

Fritzie, we can do the phone with will Bon. Yep,

23:50

he's efforting effort. Yes, yes, And

23:53

Fritzie is the type where this is going to bother him.

23:55

Yeah, vacation, so it's not

23:57

like it's Thursday, then you have tomorrow to redeem

23:59

yourself. It's Thursday, then it's a

24:01

week off, and you know, we would

24:04

never remind him of this during vacation,

24:07

where we would go Fritzie. Pardon

24:09

the interruption, but I just wanted to see

24:12

how your vacation is. You know what's going to happen

24:14

tonight? Todd's going to send a story about like

24:16

the Atlanta braves or something, and it's gonna be like, Todd,

24:18

what the hell are we supposed to do with this? We're off for ten days.

24:20

Oh, I know, I know what's

24:24

what's the story is?

24:27

Mike there? Michael Olbon's ready to go. Oh, Michael

24:30

will be elusive, the peripatetic Michael

24:32

Wilbon is here on the program. Mike,

24:34

how are you today?

24:37

Are good? Am?

24:39

I on a speakerphone? Wait,

24:45

man, hold on for a second. Sounds a little

24:49

hollow there. He can't put that on the

24:51

air. So there's

24:55

a few things that are a

24:57

sign of things going terribly than Todd running

25:00

between these two rooms. Yes he doesn't run,

25:02

Yeah, yeah, fast walking. He runs.

25:05

He runs in the back where the big German and

25:07

Dylan are. It's more of a skipping walk.

25:09

Yeah, there's Will Von. I

25:11

could see him right there on on a zoom call.

25:14

I can see you. You couldn't

25:17

see me, No, I couldn't. How are you doing?

25:19

Got your Northwestern sweatshirt on? Looking?

25:22

Yeah? Um? I

25:24

The Freddie Freeman story is

25:26

kind of fascinating here because

25:29

I'm not sure what happens as we move forward.

25:31

He's playing well. But if you're a Dodger teammate,

25:34

how do you feel about Freddie Freeman with

25:37

what is now transpired in the last forty

25:40

eight hours? I think you feel like we think

25:42

Clayton Kershaw felt. But

25:45

Dan, you know what I mean. Think

25:47

of all the times. Okay, we know all the details.

25:49

We know a lot of details here. We know how

25:51

Freddie felt because he's Freddie Freeman, because

25:53

he's you know, MVP once you removed,

25:57

because the Braves one. We know

25:59

all these details. How many times

26:02

does a player have regrets about

26:05

a signing, particularly when leaving

26:07

a place where he was a king. I

26:10

think it happens way more than we know.

26:12

Because we know the details of

26:14

this. It

26:17

seems like, oh my god. I mean, Casey Close

26:19

has been an elite agent for a long

26:21

long time, and so all you

26:23

have this confluence of circumstances, that

26:26

stances that puts you in a position

26:29

where it looks like, oh my god, this is a I

26:31

don't think this is that rare at all, Dan. I

26:34

think people have regrets all the time

26:36

about where they sign and they

26:39

usually get over it, usually in

26:41

a situation like Freddie Freeman's. But it's

26:43

clear to me he didn't want to go. He

26:45

didn't want to go. But it's not the first

26:47

time that's happened either. But can you remember

26:49

an athlete this emotional? Yeah,

26:54

but yeah, I mean I remember

26:56

come up with like retiring, you would see

26:58

this, Yeah, I mean

27:00

this was Dick Vermeil, like, like, what's

27:03

going on here? He

27:05

didn't seem you know, did

27:08

you did you question this in real time,

27:11

like when you saw him except

27:13

the ring go to the plate hug

27:16

whoever it was at first base at the time.

27:18

Did you say, oh, something's wrong

27:20

here? No, I I just thought,

27:22

okay, during the lockout and trying

27:25

to get this done, you know,

27:28

it felt like that's where he belonged, that

27:30

he loved the Braves and

27:33

he grew up in the organization, and

27:35

that Okay, he'll flirt

27:37

with somebody, but he's coming

27:39

back. You know. It's like Chipper Jones

27:42

was never leaving or you know, Dale Murphy

27:44

eventually left him went to the Phillies. But you

27:47

know, these guys, it feels like certain

27:49

market. Tony Gwynn wasn't leaving. They're

27:52

certain guns, Tony Gwan,

27:54

cal Ripken Jr. I mean there, Yes,

27:57

it was a surprise, but

28:00

you know, so few people stay forever

28:02

in one place. Now that

28:05

you know, it just seemed like, Okay, you

28:08

know, he got his ring, he won,

28:10

he's fulfilled, He's going to go on and

28:12

do this other thing. Yeah. Yeah,

28:15

I don't think I gave much pause to it other

28:17

than I thought

28:19

of pooh holes, because that's

28:22

the Cardinals did the right thing. Let's

28:24

not embarrass him and not giving him an offer.

28:27

They got a Hall of Fame career out

28:29

of those ten years, and they probably

28:31

said, go get him, go go take

28:34

you know, take the Angels. We

28:36

would encourage you to take that. They were respectful

28:39

to him. I thought the Braves were

28:41

doing that. Let's be respectful,

28:44

but go ahead. I wouldn't turn down

28:46

that offer from the Dodgers. Yeah, and then

28:48

we find out the TikTok behind

28:51

the scenes of the entire

28:53

thing. I think I guess my point

28:56

Having covered teams and people

28:58

for a long time, is they're

29:00

more of these than we think, where

29:03

there's something that happens in

29:05

the background that's that

29:07

that shoves a person out a

29:09

little bit more than just oh, let me jump.

29:12

He's Michael Wilbond. Pardon the interruption

29:15

with Tony Kornheiser. Of course

29:17

you're at the NBA Finals and

29:20

the greatness of the Golden State

29:22

Warriors was on center

29:24

stage. There is it

29:26

still Steph like as Steph

29:29

goes because we look at when athletes

29:31

get a little bit older, can how long can

29:33

Steph be Steph? And what's that mean for the Warriors

29:35

when he can't be what he is right

29:37

now? Well, that's what was interesting about Draymond

29:40

Greene saying they could win three of the next four.

29:44

You know, unlikely people

29:46

get injured. Oh wait, they just had

29:49

that. People get old, other

29:51

people coming up, and other teams

29:54

become the I mean, young studs are

29:56

trying to take you out all the time.

29:59

And that's gonna happened to the Warriors

30:01

if they don't just retire on their own. So

30:04

do I think they can do this again next year? Yes?

30:06

Absolutely absolutely,

30:09

And I think they're primed for it. When Steve

30:11

Kurs said, you usually better the second year,

30:14

Dan, he was right on the money. I

30:16

mean, to me, the greatest bulls team of all

30:18

time was the second one, not

30:20

the one that won seventy

30:22

three games, seventy two games, but the

30:24

team that Horace

30:27

Grant before Dennis Robin got there, and

30:29

Horace Grant John Paxson they beat

30:31

I think Portland that was the greatest

30:33

bulls team. That was truly the second

30:36

team, not just the second of the

30:38

two three peats, but the second one. So

30:40

I think the Warriors have that in them. But

30:43

does it last forever? No? But nobody ever

30:45

learns that, and not in our business

30:47

either. I mean, I understand

30:49

athletes feeling this way, that's what they're supposed

30:52

to do. They better have

30:54

that irrational confidence that borders

30:56

on delusion. But when people in

30:58

our business just buying to it and

31:01

start saying stupid stuff at automatically come

31:03

with the question, it just makes me angry

31:05

and I want to call every show that I see

31:07

it's not being say you're an idiot, stop

31:10

being an idiot. Study sports,

31:13

study the history of sports, study

31:15

the history of any sport, and

31:17

you don't just get people winning in bunch.

31:19

I know the NBA and the NHL have

31:22

more multiples, they have more

31:24

repeaters, but they don't

31:26

just go, you know, eight and ten years

31:28

or whatever the suggestions are and

31:31

it's not so easy. Just oh yeah, they're gonna win next

31:33

year, and the oddsmakers and then whose

31:35

favorite. All of this

31:37

hype makes me angry. Now I'm

31:40

old Dan, you know this, and

31:42

I get angry at the suggestion

31:45

that it's so easy to win championships. They're

31:47

not saying dreamond Green saying that because he didn't say

31:49

that. Do you have a lawn in Arizona

31:51

for people to get off of? No? I know

31:53

there's no grill, you

31:56

know, no real grass. Get

31:58

off my rocks, you know, off

32:01

my dry straw or whatever it is.

32:03

But do you think you helped usher in

32:06

the hot takes? You and Tony? No, because

32:08

we don't, because we don't do that. No. I

32:11

tell people when they say something to me about

32:13

that's a great question, I say, No, I don't have a

32:15

hot take. I have an opinion, which is layered. Yeah,

32:18

it's usually nuanced, it may also be

32:21

yeah, I kind of agree with part of that.

32:24

And I don't have hot takes that I actually hate them.

32:27

But it feels like though Mike, your answers

32:29

are bite sized portions. Therefore,

32:32

it's almost presented in

32:35

a hot take fashion because you and

32:37

Tony split two minutes on a topic.

32:40

Yeah, but but two minutes are hot takes

32:42

a lot shorter. I don't

32:44

even know. I'm not a hot take guy.

32:46

I got no hot takes coming

32:48

out of the oven, Mike. I just don't. When

32:50

people say you don't have hot takes, I go, you

32:52

know what, how about just an opinion? Maybe

32:56

there are times when I go, I don't know, yes,

32:59

yes, or how about this? Yeah,

33:02

the other guy's right, you

33:04

know which I mean? Tony and I disagree

33:07

a lot less than people think we do. We're

33:10

loud in getting there. Ye, but

33:13

but but it's it's less disagreement. But no,

33:15

I don't because there are too many times that

33:18

over time I may also change or

33:20

move that position a little bit based on circumstances.

33:23

So no hot takes. A NBA

33:28

free agency, the Knicks are back that got

33:30

Jalen Brunson, No

33:32

they're not. And so

33:34

right now I'm in Chicago, right now where Jalen

33:36

Brunson grew up and played at a high school,

33:39

where you know, friends of the family are

33:41

I love Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson

33:44

has self made more than any really really

33:46

really good NBA player, any

33:48

player of his statue. This

33:51

kid did not have NBA written

33:53

all over him at all, even though his dad, as

33:55

we know, played in the league. But

33:58

Dan, he he's not. They're

34:00

gonna they're gonna put pressure on this kid.

34:03

This signing, this circumstance, the way

34:05

it went down, is gonna put pressure

34:07

on Jalen Brunson that he does not deserve. Is

34:10

gonna try to make something of him that he is not.

34:12

He's a terrific NBA player, but looking

34:14

at what happened with Julius Randall, that man,

34:17

Julius Randall, second team All NBA,

34:20

and then this last season they turned on him,

34:22

And I worry that they're gonna they're gonna look

34:24

at Jalen Brunson maybe for one

34:26

of the few times they've seen him, they're like, wait,

34:28

we've spent twenty seven million dollars a year

34:31

on this and he's not Clyde Frasier. Yeah

34:33

No, And I feel

34:36

I feel for him already and love him, love

34:38

him, don't love the circumstance he's

34:40

in. Dan, And by the way,

34:43

he's not a one. I'm

34:45

not even sure he's a real two. I

34:48

think that he's a he's part of it ensemble

34:50

and you'd love to have him, and you can win with

34:52

him, but not with him dragging a team

34:55

like the Knicks, the team

34:57

with more pressure usually than anybody's

35:00

be something that they're not. I worry

35:02

for him. It's a great kid, Michael.

35:05

Great to talk to you. It's always and I

35:07

hope you're doing well. Thanks for joining me. No

35:09

hot takes now, don't give into that. No, no,

35:12

I give lukewarm

35:14

takes, like

35:16

like a nice warm bath. Mike.

35:19

I No, no hot takes, No

35:21

hot takes. That's great, hot take. Thank

35:23

you, buddy. That's Michael Wilbon,

35:26

or, as Steve Spurrier referred to him,

35:28

wilbur We'll take a break. Let's

35:30

call for phone calls. If you're watching on Peacock,

35:33

we are going to go out

35:35

and enjoy a fourth or July feast.

35:38

Everybody todd you

35:40

snuck in well because

35:42

I said, no Wilbon, no many hot dogs,

35:45

but you get to have some hot no guest, no

35:47

squeegee all right here, no

35:49

no guess, no back

35:51

after this, be sure to catch the

35:54

live edition of The Dan Patrick Show week

35:56

days at nine am Eastern six am

35:58

Pacific on Fox four Radio

36:00

in the iHeart Radio WAP. We're supposed

36:02

to have arcade fire because we're not here tomorrow.

36:06

That's wow. Thig had an envy deep race.

36:09

Wow. Yeah,

36:11

this might be Seaton's year when most

36:13

valuable. Dan at feels like that. Todd

36:16

nearly lost it because he couldn't

36:18

get Wilbon on the phone. We went out to

36:20

the grilling area. Todd drops

36:22

one of his mini hot dogs on the ground,

36:25

picked it up. Let go to waste.

36:29

It's going to waste

36:33

eventually. Thank um.

36:37

All right, no arcade

36:39

fire. I had this big moment where I was going to thank

36:42

the audience letting us be part of your life,

36:44

and it's hope you have a safe week on everybody,

36:47

nice things to say. And now I can't

36:49

do that. Mar I mean,

36:51

I just sort of did it, but I didn't do it in a way

36:54

that it would have been more dramatic with arcade

36:56

fire. Yeah see, not with the appropriate

36:58

score, but yeah, I need have a score behind

37:00

me. Oh,

37:07

close up shop as we always

37:09

do this Thursday. We

37:12

won't be here tomorrow, but this goes

37:14

out to the audience. Thanks for allowing us to be

37:16

part of your life, whatever way

37:18

however you let us in. Thank you. We

37:21

never take it for granted. Here r K part.

37:48

Some people on Twitter want to know if mclovin

37:51

is sort of our Freddie Freeman that

37:54

he went off to work on another

37:57

show. I

38:00

saw like three of those on the twitters, and

38:03

mclovin is regretting leaving us,

38:05

wanting to come back, tears

38:08

getting emotional. All right,

38:11

Yeah, I could see that. I could see mclovin

38:14

one day just start crying.

38:16

Ironically, he is getting five million

38:18

dollars a year until twenty forty two. He

38:21

actually see Freddie Freeman.

38:23

Love's getting that perpetuity. David

38:25

Pennsylvania, Hi, Dave, what's on your mind

38:27

today? Hey, bud yep

38:31

Hey. I just want to say thank you to you guys

38:33

as we head into this Meek Thursday

38:35

for all you do. You guys talk sports and pop

38:38

culture, but it's a lot more than that. And

38:40

I'm not going to go off Freddie Freeman on you, but

38:43

you know you said something that came

38:45

the goose bumps. I had a great D one

38:48

mid major Hoop's career played overseas

38:50

after that, and then I got into the real world

38:53

and I was having a tough time and for

38:55

no reason at all. I'm a happy guy, and the Blues

38:57

would would try to sneak up on me. And you said

39:00

something on the air a couple of times

39:02

now that he said, you know,

39:04

the Blue doesn't schedule an appointment on your

39:06

calendar. It just kind of comes up and taps

39:08

you on the shoulder. And when you did that

39:10

and said that, it just reached me and it

39:12

gave me goosebumps. And I just wanted to thank you for that

39:15

because things are great now. That was

39:17

a while ago. Talk to some people about

39:19

it. I just want to thank you guys for all you do. Got

39:21

three great kids, six, three

39:24

and one, and just to let you know how

39:26

the fiber of your show reached me. My

39:29

one year old had a big full diaper the other day

39:32

and I went to change it and I opened

39:34

it up and I said, damn, three

39:36

p thank

39:40

you day. Thank you. Yeah,

39:44

you know, I'm given the opportunity,

39:47

I'm giving a platform, and you

39:49

know, we try to have fun, but we let

39:51

you into our lives as well. You let us into

39:54

our our yours, and we let

39:56

you into hours. It's it's really important

39:59

and share those things. Not easy,

40:03

but I think it's important be able to

40:05

do that, have the opportunity to connect

40:07

with you in a variety of ways, PAULI.

40:11

The state and sports history. I got a few day. In nineteen seventy,

40:14

the Cincinnati Reds moved to their new home at Riverfront

40:16

Stadium. Do you like that place when it came out? No? I

40:18

loved Crosley Field. It was you know, old

40:21

time field. Loved that. Nineteen

40:24

sixty two, the LA Dodgers Sandy Kofax

40:26

pitched his first no hitter in a game versus

40:28

the New York Mets, first of four no hitters.

40:30

Yea and oh this

40:32

is too bad ending positive negative.

40:35

Nineteen ninety four, The US Figure Skating Association

40:37

strip Tanya Harding of the nineteen ninety

40:39

four National Championship. For whatever

40:41

reason, I don't really remember them. Of course, that's

40:45

not nice, Todd. What did I learn today?

40:47

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40:49

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