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Dave Holly Hour Episode 214 January 25, 2024

Dave Holly Hour Episode 214 January 25, 2024

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Dave Holly Hour Episode 214 January 25, 2024

Dave Holly Hour Episode 214 January 25, 2024

Dave Holly Hour Episode 214 January 25, 2024

Dave Holly Hour Episode 214 January 25, 2024

Thursday, 25th January 2024
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0:00

Music.

0:15

Gifts, Chaser's Food and Spirits, Excel Chiropractic, Quality Nails,

0:20

Jesse Moffitt Entertainment, and the Sioux Falls Arts Council.

0:24

The Dave Holley Hour features Sioux Empire arts and entertainment conversations.

0:24

Music.

0:29

A true lover of arts, entertainment, good food, and fun times,

0:34

including an occasional Jack Daniels.

0:36

Okay, so a few Jack Daniels. Here he is, Dave Holley.

0:44

Welcome, one and all. Great to have you along, as today we will be speaking

0:49

to JAS Quintet saxophonist Joel Shotwell.

0:55

They're going to be playing Saturday night in Flandreau at the Crystal Theater. Fun place to play.

1:00

Joel stopped by the Dipsy Doodle production studio this week before it became

1:06

the Dripsy Doodle studio. You see, there's this warmer weather,

1:11

you know, to get up a freezing that we all wanted so bad.

1:14

If you hear water dripping in the background, it's snow melting coming through the window.

1:21

Thankfully, able to move audio equipment out of the way.

1:25

And it could also be called the dripsy studio due to my runny nose.

1:31

Thank you so much. First cold of the year, said Mr. Sarcasm. Hmm.

1:36

I do need to update you on a concern of mine.

1:39

A couple of weeks back, I woke up with basically the equivalent of that big

1:46

smoke monster from the TV show Lost in my right eye.

1:49

That's how bad the floaters were and so forth, dust bunnies and stuff like that,

1:54

you know, very limited vision and couldn't focus in on things.

1:58

So I was hoping it would simply go away, as floaters typically do.

2:02

So a few days later, I was able to get into the Sanford Optical Clinic because

2:06

things weren't improving. And then a week after that, which would have been last Friday morning,

2:11

the eye surgeon looked me straight in the eye.

2:17

You'll like that pun intended, huh? And said there were four choices,

2:22

two of which would have put me in the situation of maybe a 50% chance of going blind.

2:28

So, I went with what was behind door number four, which was the whole shebang.

2:34

So, here's the process. In order to prevent my left eye from possibly having the same issue,

2:41

she lasered it, and I got injections in both eyes, and I got back,

2:46

or I go back, rather, February 14th.

2:49

And if the left eye is doing well, and the right eye has been clearing some,

2:54

she will most likely laser that one.

2:58

And while they do numb the area, there is still some pain involved with the laser.

3:03

I made it through, didn't have to ask her to stop, but it's a different type

3:07

of pain. Oh my, don't want to have to do it again, but I'm going to.

3:11

Because if all goes well, I should have a restored vision.

3:16

All right, in the meantime though, I can't drive or work.

3:22

Typing, texting, reading, all quite difficult.

3:26

I had to cancel trivia the past week, but hoping with the large screen TV and

3:32

an iPad that I can put right in front of my eyes, I'll be able to make it through

3:37

that this coming Monday. The heartbreaker, though, was having to bow out of being in this year's premiere premieres.

3:45

Tough to memorize lines, and with balance and depth perception being off as

3:50

well, blocking directions would have been very trying.

3:54

Not to mention the fact that the day that they open would be a day after my

4:00

next most likely eye surgery. But since I can still talk, a little bit at least, we trudge on with this show

4:07

because at least I can talk. Joel Shotwell coming up in just a few minutes.

4:13

But first, let's pop the cork on this bubbly little show.

4:18

Music.

4:55

Whatever you're drinking, whatever you're drinking it from might very well be

5:00

determined by where and when you're listening.

5:03

My choice, my choice, of course, is a Jasper Newton Jack Daniels Diet Coke with Lime.

5:09

For you, whether it's a cup of coffee, glass of milk, bottle of water,

5:13

mug of beer or cocktail, glass of wine or a flute of champagne,

5:18

lift it high and toast it to those that care.

5:23

You know, those friends that wonder how you're doing.

5:26

Ask if you need anything. Can I give you a ride?

5:29

Or they can sense that while you might be shrugging off a situation,

5:34

but know there's more to it. So cheers to caring people.

5:39

Speaking of cheers, if you were a fan of the old sitcom cheers,

5:43

then you're going to love Chaser's Food and Beverage, West 12th and Ellis Road.

5:49

The friendly staff will get to know you by name and provide you with great food

5:53

and drink and lots of smiles.

5:56

Monday night, Dave Holley, our trivia, cross your fingers at Jesus.

6:00

Starting at 7 and this coming Monday night, the trivia theme will be Double

6:04

Down, all about the twos.

6:07

If that sounds like a repeat from last week, it was, because we never got to do the Double Down.

6:11

So we're doubling down on the fact that Dave will do trivia this coming Monday. day.

6:17

What over the past week made Dave laugh, guffaw, chuckle, chortle,

6:23

giggle, smile, or maybe even shed a tear of joy,

6:27

that would go to those great people that just make stuff up. Improv Falls.

6:33

Now, while my sight was horrible, etc., I could at least hear Improv Falls,

6:39

and I, you know, could put a hand down, and the distance I was from,

6:42

I could tell who each of them was, that that type of thing.

6:46

But, you know, when you've gone through something and you just need a good laugh,

6:51

and if you're ever in need of a good laugh, you see that Improv Falls is playing somewhere, go.

6:57

You will be thankful for it.

7:00

Coming up next, JAS Quintet saxophonist Joel Shotwell on the Dave Holley Hour.

7:06

Get ready to unleash your creativity and spread the love.

7:11

Introducing the latest art movement that's sure to capture your heart, love.

7:16

Artists of all backgrounds, it's your time to shine.

7:19

Channel your passion and express the boundless facets of love through your unique creations.

7:24

Whether it's a canvas masterpiece, a photograph, or a sculpture that speaks

7:29

volumes, We want to see your interpretation of love in all its form.

7:34

This is not just a call for art. It's an invitation to share your perspective

7:38

on one of the most powerful emotions known to humanity.

7:42

Love transcends boundaries, and so does art.

7:46

Let your imagination run wild and submit your masterpiece to be part of something extraordinary.

7:52

The Call for Art Love is open to artists all around. Don't miss your chance

7:56

to be featured in a showcase at Serendipity Studio in Sioux Falls that celebrates

8:01

the universal language of love. Your art could inspire, uplift, and resonate with hearts around the globe.

8:08

Join us in this artistic celebration. Visit our website at serendipitystudiosd.com for submission details,

8:16

deadlines, and more. Let your creativity radiate and be a beacon of love through your art.

8:22

Because in a world that could always use more love, your masterpiece might be just the spark it needs.

8:29

Call for Art. Love. Where passion meets creativity.

8:33

Submit your masterpiece today and let the love flow through art like never before.

8:38

The Love Exhibit runs from February 3rd through the 24th. You can see it live

8:43

at Serendipity Studio, located downtown Sioux Falls in the historic Shriver

8:48

Building on the second floor. Check out the new ceramic studio

8:52

in Sioux Falls, conveniently located off Kiwanis Avenue on 5th Street.

8:56

TJS Ceramics, inside Oscars Mini Storage.

8:59

Thousands of classic vintage ceramic mold items and several new items too.

9:04

TJS Ceramics offers classes, special open studio nights, and completed ready-to-purchase items.

9:09

Bisc studio time or painting parties are available. Visit TJS Ceramics Studio

9:14

in person today or email tjsceramics at gmail.com for more details.

9:19

Are you an artist? Need some funding to further your art? There's a great opportunity

9:24

for you through a Sioux Falls Arts Council program.

9:27

The Artist Microgrant Program This program gives away several micro-grants to

9:31

local artists, no matter what art discipline you're in.

9:34

Unlike more traditional grants, a micro-grant is very easy to apply for.

9:39

Go to artssouffalls.org. If you haven't done so yet, create a listing on the

9:45

artist's directory, which is beneficial in its own way.

9:48

Then go to the artist micro-grants page and apply online. The process is simple.

9:53

Find out more about the Sioux Falls Arts Council as well online at artssouffalls.org.

10:00

Music.

10:01

The Dave Hawley Hour, like eavesdropping on a great conversation between two

10:06

very interesting people. Welcome back, everybody. Oh, my goodness.

10:12

It is always so great. It is such a pleasure to talk Sioux Empire arts and entertainment.

10:19

Always great to have a guest back from time to time.

10:23

And, well, this guy's made a few multiple turns here around the wheel with Dave

10:28

Holley Hour Joel Shotwell, how are you, my friend?

10:32

I'm good, how are you doing? Glad to hear that I'm doing well,

10:34

yeah And it's great to have you And, you know, here we are, it's Thursday and

10:39

you're going to be playing this weekend Yeah, we get to play with JAS Quintet

10:44

at the Flandreau Crystal Theater.

10:48

And that's what JS doesn't get to play in Sioux Falls a whole ton,

10:52

uh, just cause it's quintet and we do like kind of our own thing.

10:56

So it's not kind of, it's usually not in the corner background music,

11:00

although we do it and we love playing with each other no matter what,

11:03

but, uh, it's kind of nice when it's special in a theater because we get to do our thing for real.

11:07

And it's kind of the setting that, that size of group was meant to be in.

11:11

So have you played there before? We have. Okay. Yeah.

11:14

It's a great little show there once and loved it. Yep. Yep. Yeah.

11:18

It's like one of these gems that exist all over the state.

11:21

Actually, these, a lot of these small towns have these theaters and they've

11:24

kind of people work in the town to keep them going or people will like re revitalize

11:29

them and stuff like that. Yeah. Well, my hometown of Rock Rapids is hoping to do that at some point. That would be awesome.

11:34

Got a lot of work to go on that one yet. Yep. Yeah. So that is a fun place.

11:38

The Crystal Theater in Flandreau. Yep.

11:40

Yeah. And what's so great about it is you go out there and, you know,

11:44

the marquee that's still out there and so forth. Always a fun, fun time.

11:48

It is. All right. So who will be involved in the quintet at this time about?

11:52

The quintet is Jeff Paul on piano, Andrew Reinhart on bass, Jim Spears on trumpet,

11:58

Dan Heyer on drums, and myself on saxophone.

12:02

All right. You know, I've been thinking about this the other day because I was

12:06

listening to some Golden Oldies and there were some sax parts in it.

12:10

And I know we always talk, you know, when you are around, it's usually we're

12:13

talking talking jazz and who your saxophone influencers were from the jazz area and so forth.

12:21

But are there some great solos on the saxophone that you hear from time to time

12:27

in pop music that you go, Oh man, I got to do that. Yeah. I mean.

12:33

Sometimes like in pop music, I, I, it kind of, there, there's only like a couple

12:38

that really, where I get that feeling where you're saying like, oh yeah, I got to do that.

12:42

And one of them is like, you know, Wayne Shorter's solo on Asia, Steely Dan.

12:46

And that, when I heard I was, that totally helped open my mind to the idea of

12:53

like more pop saxophone in a way, but it's hard.

12:57

Like I, I totally respect it. And part of it is like, I, when I,

13:01

when I do, and I've tried to practice it and mimic that sort of style,

13:05

I don't really quite feel right. Like it connects with me very much.

13:10

Not that it, it never bothers me either. Like every time I hear it,

13:13

I'm like, that is absolutely perfect. No one should ever ask me to do that because like i

13:18

can't like i like it's like i don't find i'm

13:21

not compelled to like work right that towards

13:24

that but yeah there's like at like tom scott like at the stuff he does he's

13:29

done tons of stuff and i'm sure you've heard like he was on all sorts of 80s

13:33

records and does solo stuff and every time i hear him it's usually he was on

13:37

that zilli daniel album too and it's usually like whoa this is somebody who

13:40

does this the best as they can And it's like, is it lute to back?

13:43

And I think on SNL, like, holy crap, like that's insane.

13:47

Like, and I just can't, it's like an attitude, right? Like, and I admire it

13:53

and respect it, but I don't have that sort of attitude.

13:56

But to answer your question, yeah, that Wayne Shorter one is the only one that's

13:59

really got me where I'm like, oh, like that's. I have to.

14:02

Yeah, I would, I would love to be in those shoes, you know?

14:07

All right. but in the meantime in the shoes that you are in jas how many years

14:11

you guys been around now wow hmm people it's probably kind of like cliche to

14:17

to say like oh i'm not quite.

14:21

Sure yeah but i actually am i'm trying to think like probably 15 years uh we've

14:30

awesome we've all been playing together for probably close to,

14:33

close to 20 years like in some aspect right

14:37

the jas was an accident kind not

14:40

an accident we put the five of us together for a reason but you

14:44

know it became jas and then it kind of just stuck that way like those things

14:48

do uh because why not like oh we've been using it let's just use it so with

14:53

that particular configuration of those five guys it's probably been 10 to 15

14:58

years okay wow and And how many, do you still call them an album?

15:03

I do, yeah. And we do other stuff too. Because you've got one up in a frame

15:07

even up there. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Wow, that's awesome. And now I actually have a turntable that I can play shit

15:13

on. Sweet. That's awesome.

15:17

Yeah. Sorry, I got lost. Yeah, so how many albums have you been putting out then?

15:22

Well, we've done as a band together too, but we've also done an album we played with Jamie Lynn on.

15:30

That was hers we played on like half of one of hers we've also done little recording

15:35

projects for for little things not like full albums so and there's always stuff on the horizon,

15:43

or ideas like oh we could do this or we could do this you know

15:46

when we do an album with the jas quintet

15:49

it is a true jazz quintet and

15:52

we it's meant to be live so right

15:55

the recording a thing like that is worthy of

16:00

putting on a final album we have to

16:02

do it in a setting where it's like let's get the best sounds we

16:05

can so it's a little more involved so it doesn't happen

16:08

as often right yeah it's not like you know people putting

16:11

out uh albums because part a was done in somebody's home part b was done and

16:17

they all just find somebody to put it all together and go oh yeah it's nice

16:20

mix yeah yep yeah which is a cool way to do it too like my last album we all

16:25

recorded separately and did it that way. But with the quintet.

16:30

It's just a different thing, so. Right. But yeah, we've been able to get some

16:36

good live recordings of each other too, and that's been fun to listen.

16:40

Is this your favorite group to be in? I think, yeah, I mean. Because you play in a variety of different bands and so forth.

16:47

It's hard to say that like the favorite, but it definitely feels the most comfortable

16:52

and at home. The most personable? The most, yeah. Yeah. And I mean, all the groups that I tend to play with,

16:57

because I'm really picky, I don't, it really matters to me where I spend my time, you know,

17:03

like, and I know that sounds like really stuffy, maybe, I don't know,

17:07

but I don't, I don't want to leave my family to go spend time with people I don't love, you know?

17:13

So like when I play with, you know, anybody else, the Hags, John Bakken,

17:18

now I've played with some and other groups,

17:21

it's always going to be people that I'm all in, but JAS definitely feels like

17:26

the most, when we play together, it's like, oh, yeah,

17:30

it matters that we've been speaking to each other in a musical way for 10 to 15 years.

17:36

What do you like about everybody that's in your group? Well, I don't like them.

17:41

Not the feeling you love them. Nothing, nothing. Those dirty bastards.

17:47

No. No. do you

17:51

want me to tell you what i like best about each one of them that would

17:54

be wonderful okay okay i like that idea okay yeah

17:59

so as a professional on a

18:02

professional level i'll start with andrew and then

18:05

i'll talk about their personal okay okay so andrew would

18:09

be on the professional level obviously he plays upright

18:13

bass and electric bass really really good

18:16

professional level too he can communicate really really really well in fact

18:22

like a lot of times i have to i run things through him or bounce ideas about

18:26

communication off of him because i feel like that's probably one of my weakest

18:30

points then he has a lot of experience that way also like if something goes wrong,

18:35

in a musical setting especially when it comes to technology or any setting musically

18:41

which happens all the time you're setting up you're sound checking things are

18:44

going wrong he can He can usually kind of burrow in and figure those things

18:49

out. And he does a good job. Yeah.

18:52

On a personal level, he's just, you know, we camp together.

18:57

I go stay at his cabin. You know, like we're raising children and we bounce.

19:03

We talk about those. We have cigars. Yeah.

19:05

Yeah. I mean, I just like his honesty. So Jeff, Jeff Paul, the piano player

19:11

on a professional level, he's, he's one of the most interesting piano players

19:16

that I've ever played with. He can, because he is open and we've done this for so long and he's patient with someone like me,

19:25

how I, that's how I feel is he's been patient with me along my growth,

19:29

you know, and I know he doesn't feel like that, but, but not

19:32

doesn't feel like he's fathering or anything like that but

19:35

you know what i mean like but you i'm trying to be overly humble

19:38

right yeah i feel comfortable taking risks but he

19:41

likes that and he'll go there and he and we

19:43

can kind of discover it what's fun is that you know

19:47

we all tend to go have our own dialect so professionally man

19:50

he he listens so closely he

19:53

knows exactly where i am in a musical phrase

19:56

or idea even if i'm abstract i of

19:59

feel like he knows what kind of abstraction i'm drawing from

20:02

tech like just as far.

20:05

As like theoretical ear knowledge like also

20:09

if i'm moving in a pattern that's like

20:12

logical but not typical

20:15

he knows what that sounds like and he goes there with

20:18

me that's the whole point of the music you know

20:21

like there's a reason why some people play

20:24

together all the time because they figured each other out you know so

20:27

he i feel on a professional level that's jeff

20:30

and he brings a lot of music to the table uh personal

20:33

level same thing with we have cigars you

20:37

know i went and saw his concerto tried to get as close

20:39

as i could i made jokes that me and riley were

20:42

gonna my daughter we're gonna throw things at him anyway yeah

20:48

we we just are good good friends which is you know

20:50

will be a common theme with every member of the band he has a

20:53

a fine collection of hats too great collection of

20:56

hats and i like his like kind of

20:59

just passion about different things other than music because

21:03

it's nice to know that i'm not the only weirdo out there

21:06

that likes to obsess over other things you know

21:08

you talk about the professionalism of those two especially

21:11

andrew and jeff being in the south dakota symphony orchestra as well and absolutely

21:17

knowledge that they have from from that and you know and by the way jeff is

21:22

usually playing like an oboe or something when it comes to that yep so you know

21:26

that it's the knowledge of other instruments it's the knowledge of how.

21:30

Music in a classical way can be put together but by the same token doing jazz

21:35

and how it can be improv yep yeah yeah i mean the more you know of any about

21:41

the more you know the better, your ideas are, you know, like, and it can come from any place,

21:47

you know, musically or outside of that. I think it's, that's really cool to know people like that. Yeah.

21:52

All right. Moving on. Dan Heyer. Oh yes. Drummer Dan. Yeah. Drummer Dan professionally,

21:57

like you can always leave it up to Dan.

22:00

Like, you know, like I have ideas, like a lot of times.

22:05

You know, everybody works a little differently. And what I noticed first with

22:08

Dan professionally is that I used to maybe, and I don't know,

22:13

you never know how you come across, but I used to be like, oh,

22:16

I was thinking about drums like this. Maybe this could work.

22:18

But with, with Dan, I can just say, oh yeah, it's kind of like faster and like,

22:25

just kind of like throw like real abstract and then just know that he's going

22:29

to kind of start tweaking that. And I don't need need to interject i just know that eventually he's

22:34

going to stumble on something that i could have never fathomed and that'll

22:38

be way better and every single time that seems to

22:40

be the case i'm like oh damn and then he also like

22:43

has the ability which this is what i really love

22:46

everybody in the band but but the drummer can dictate a lot in a band like the

22:52

drummer is basically in charge i think when we're performing especially in this

22:56

aspect because he has the most power but dan Dan isn't afraid and he's good at changing on the spot.

23:04

Like we, it's, we don't always play our tunes the exact same way.

23:08

In fact, we sometimes we play them very differently and a drummer can impede that.

23:13

If a drummer doesn't want to go where we're going, then we're,

23:16

we're stuck going where he goes, you know, we could fight it, but it's all.

23:20

So Dan has great, um.

23:23

I mean, and obviously he's a great drummer too, and all sorts of styles.

23:27

I like Dan too, because me and him go work with schools in the area too.

23:32

Like band directors will hire us and we'll come work with their band clinic for an hour or two.

23:38

And Dan's really good at that. He can take the rhythm section and he has great advice.

23:42

And we work good as a team because we're kind of like go out at different angles.

23:46

Personally, yeah, he's raising a daughter. And last snow day,

23:52

last year, like he came over and played Ninja Turtles with us all day on the

23:56

Nintendo Switch, you know, so.

23:59

Nothing like knowing a military man that plays that. I know.

24:04

Yeah. And he just sweet. He's always so chill.

24:07

Yeah. Like he, like he, he handles things well, where I tend to get emotional.

24:12

I let my emotions take over me sometimes. And then last but not least,

24:16

Jimmy, on a professional level,

24:19

we've like pretty much one of the first guys I played with when I moved back

24:22

to Sioux Falls, like on a first guys that I was like, kind of like,

24:26

oh, this, this guy is like, knows how to get gigs.

24:30

And, and so, or he's like showing me that, oh yeah, if I, if I hustle too,

24:35

I could probably do stuff also, you know, like, so I felt like I learned from him that way.

24:41

And musically, we have grown up together in very formative years of our development.

24:47

So, which on a professional level is really interesting and rare.

24:52

And I never take it for granted that, and it's funny and we laugh,

24:58

but it's also like a freaking miracle because we can do things wrong at the

25:03

exact, we often will do it wrong at the exact same time, the exact same way.

25:07

Rarely does one of us make a mistake. Not with the other person. And it's weird as hell. It's like,

25:14

we've never played it that way before, but we did that time and we did it exactly together.

25:18

When we're playing next to each other, we breathe together.

25:22

It's like a unit because we play wind instruments too. It's a,

25:25

it's a, it's a, it's really compelling.

25:30

And it's a reason why we, people like this do it all the time.

25:34

You know, like when you have a connection that deep, it's really amazing.

25:39

Amazing like you know you get like it's almost like a form of

25:42

like group meditation but with

25:46

him it's so odd because there's a clear thing

25:50

happening that you could no science could explain i don't think yet today you

25:54

know what i mean right well quarks you know we know that the word chemistry

25:58

is yeah yeah that's the thing there's magic we know that you know with some

26:05

Some physics or whatever, like, you know, you can alter a cork here and it will alter the cork across

26:10

the world or anywhere in the universe. Like that has to be happening on a musical level. And I don't mean that lightly,

26:16

but something like that has to be happening.

26:19

There's no other explanation for it unless the processing in our brain is just

26:23

that amazing, which it might be. Who knows?

26:26

Yeah. And what I love about it is the fact that you've mentioned it.

26:29

Oh, here's these guys that they can impede it.

26:32

They can take it a certain way. and then you're going okay

26:35

all right and follow along but all of

26:38

you have this trust amongst each other

26:41

that it's gonna be great

26:44

no matter what yeah and you talk about you

26:47

know never playing the song the same way what are

26:49

rehearsals like or do you guys not have to worry about rehearsal because you

26:53

have all been doing it enough and you know what you're coming to the gig with

26:57

it kind of depends like if it's we got together before we went west river this

27:01

summer for a rehearsal because we hadn't played some of the tunes.

27:06

We were trying new tunes out. Mm-hmm. And sometimes it's a matter of whoever wrote the tune just kind of wants to

27:12

know what it feels like in that context.

27:15

So we'll rehearse when there's new material like that, or if it's been a while,

27:20

you know, or like if we can like just get together to play some new stuff, we will do that.

27:24

We generally don't, unless we have a guest, like we had Andrea Ross.

27:29

Yes. She, she sang with us for the SDPV thing.

27:32

So we rehearsed with her on that way. Maybe we can get forms down if things

27:36

are more like we have a guest, so we need to like, they're not going to know

27:39

our language. You know what I mean? Or like, we don't know what they're capable.

27:45

Like we, we can do whatever, but we don't want to make them feel uncomfortable.

27:48

So yeah, we, we don't really rehearse much, you know.

27:52

When you do, where do you rehearse? Andrew's basement. Andrew's.

27:55

Okay. He's got a piano and nice. He's kind of got a little mini studio and a good space room for it.

28:01

You know, it's kind of like it's set up kind of that way. So it's pretty nice.

28:04

Just down the street. I know. Right here in the neighborhood.

28:06

We talk about that often. Yeah.

28:09

We should tell you sometime when you're where you can come and watch. Oh man.

28:12

We're usually yelling at each other and like somebody will start punching someone else.

28:18

Like Jan's throwing drumsticks. After everything you've said so far, I can.

28:23

We actually rehearsed once like in Annie Younger's studio, her painting studio.

28:28

And she had like a class there drawing and she was painting us.

28:31

She is working on this painting of us rehearsing it's freaking amazing but

28:34

anyway like somebody was was drawing and we were kind of like in between

28:36

tunes they're like are you guys always this nice to each other and we're like i

28:40

guess i mean this we're just talking like you know there's not like you always

28:45

gotta you want to navigate like make sure you listen to everyone you know like

28:49

sometimes people like i've played with groups coming into town like sometimes

28:53

you get i'm not suckered and it's good experience right but sometimes you get

28:57

like a call and some like Like there's a group in town, they're from Chicago and they're doing tunes from, I don't know what band and

29:02

you're, they need a tenor sax player. So you go do that and you go to the rehearsal and the MD is just angry and yelling

29:08

at everyone. And like, you're like, oh my God, don't screw up.

29:11

I don't want this guy on my ass. Yeah.

29:14

But then I do want them to hire me again. Yeah. And that, but maybe,

29:19

I mean, it's usually, I've played with a few of those groups multiple times.

29:22

It's fun, but it's also like, what a

29:25

weird world to have to live in where you're doing in

29:28

music and have to be yelling at somebody like what

29:31

the hell yeah don't you think that's uh partly i

29:34

i mean we talk about this so often on this show is the collaborative

29:38

nature of the arts community here not

29:41

the competitive yeah and so i'm sure that when you do work with people from

29:47

out of town that there are different styles yeah i was thinking about that today

29:52

with the front actually the competition we we have competition for sure right

29:56

everybody wants to get their piece piece of the pie, but everybody

29:59

will help each other get piece of the pie. Yeah, the idea of the competition isn't.

30:03

Winning because there's no winning the idea of the

30:06

competition is is like i was explaining this to a friend

30:09

let's and you know what i think i've read this also in rick rubin's book the

30:14

creative act if you haven't read it it's amazing it's one of the best things

30:16

i've read in years and in one of the chapters a lot of that book just can reconfirm

30:22

like some things in my head that i was like am i crazy for thinking this this

30:25

is one of them that yeah i'm competitive i grew up doing doing sports all the time,

30:28

but the competition is more like, I don't, I don't get mad losing.

30:34

It's, it's the idea of that person just showed me what I'm capable of.

30:38

You know what I mean? Like when I hear another saxophone player,

30:41

I use this description, actually it played in a trio with John Bakken and Dan

30:44

Heyer in a trio open for us.

30:47

And Brian Hannigan was playing sax and he's a beast.

30:51

And, and I could have listened to that 45 minutes of him playing and thought competitively,

30:55

like i have to beat him but i was thinking competitively i

30:58

was thinking like jesus this is amazing he's playing everything teach

31:02

me he's showing me what i'm capable of but what

31:05

do i do next so that it it it complements that so

31:08

it told that the competition is good because it

31:11

teaches you it doesn't matter if you're better what

31:14

are you going to do that's yours you know what i mean right yeah stop

31:17

comparing yourself to others yes it's not learn from others

31:20

but yes it doesn't have to be that you have

31:23

to be the same as someone else yeah

31:26

yeah and the beatles and the beach boys did that yeah true like

31:30

they were listening to each other's albums as they were making them they're like wow this

31:33

is in it and admiration but then they're like let's make one better yep you

31:36

know look what happened just beautiful art you haven't bought an ewe yet have

31:42

you no i haven't any plans to no i don't think okay yeah nothing wrong it's

31:49

the only type of person I know that can pull that off. He can and it's great.

31:53

I think they're cool like I played one before but I just don't like,

31:56

I love the I love the thing that the saxophone gives me too much, you know.

32:01

Yeah. And I can't, it's hard for me to go to other, I play other instruments often but,

32:07

When I'm, when I'm practicing, it's the sax in my hand because it's just,

32:11

I have a certain amount of control over it so I can orate what I'm feeling.

32:16

And it's hard to let that go. You know, I'd like to get a bass clarinet, a good one.

32:21

Really? I love that. And it feels close to a saxophone.

32:25

I, right now I have in my house a Contra bass clarinet, which is six foot tall

32:30

and I'm playing it cause they needed somebody to, because the lady who usually

32:33

plays it in the high plains woodwinds is going to have a baby.

32:36

And so paul shelf who directs that said hey would

32:39

you want to play contra base and i'm like well can i

32:42

would you have one and they're like the group does you can have it

32:45

and i'm like oh yes i will if

32:49

i can have that in my house for like the next four months which i will it sounds

32:53

amazing it is the coolest thing it's just and what will that be a part of that

32:59

the high plains woodwinds high plains and the concert is maybe i can tell you

33:04

when that concert is because some people may may want to go because it's kind of cool.

33:07

Yeah. My wife plays saxophone in it.

33:10

See, I did not know that. You didn't? No. High Plains, oh wait, April. It's a Sunday.

33:18

Oh boy. Maybe I didn't put it in. Oh my God, I better find out.

33:22

Yeah. I'll have to let you know at a later date.

33:25

Yeah, she plays saxophone in it. So. Well, excellent. Yeah. I look forward to hearing that then too.

33:31

But in the meantime, Saturday night you will be at Flandreau,

33:34

in Flandreau rather, at the Crystal Theater.

33:38

Some new music or basically some things you've been doing in the past and just

33:43

revamped or what do we have? Saturday will be some new music from my album, and we're going to play a tune

33:49

that Dan Heyer wrote and probably some of Jeff Paul's tunes that are new that

33:54

a lot of people probably haven't heard, and a tune that Andrew wrote,

33:58

which is like we've done experiments on it.

34:00

But we played it, and every time it's one of those where we're finding it.

34:04

And the last time, we kind of did something a little bit different on the radio,

34:08

and it was really awesome. So a lot of new stuff. There won't be much that people have ever heard us do

34:14

before, probably, and mostly original things.

34:17

Any new albums in the works? No, not actively, but just...

34:25

Personally, for me, just it's always a reset time right now.

34:29

True. And it's hard to like, I feel like this just kind of waking up into doing work, good work again.

34:39

It's hard to reset after a big project like the last one I had because I did

34:45

a couple of projects with Mark Romanowski too. Who still has to be on this show. Yeah. He was just on the street too. That's right.

34:52

But yeah, there will be stuff. I'm just trying to figure out what.

34:56

Okay. Well, we look forward to it no matter what. Well, thank you.

34:59

All right. And so you know the trick. Usually there's two questions that I ask at the end, but since you've been on

35:04

enough and it is a new year, let's kind of go this way since you led into it

35:10

perfectly by talking about getting recharged and so forth.

35:13

Yes. Are you a resolutions person or a goal setter?

35:18

Hmm. No, I don't set resolutions because I don't want to set myself up for disappointment.

35:23

See, that's me. Yeah. And I don't, I don't set goals until I know I can execute them.

35:31

So I will have a possibility of a goal in mind, but I won't commit to it until

35:37

the commitment has to happen. If that makes sense.

35:42

See, for me, I'm one of those that I don't do resolution because you're right.

35:46

You know, usually within two weeks, everyone has broken the resolution.

35:49

But if you have a goal, you get to the end of the year and you can mark off

35:53

which ones you did and did not. Sure.

35:56

And then you can say, okay, were we, you know, overshooting on what we should

36:02

have been doing here on this one? Is it something that's still attainable next year? Sure. Is it okay that it's

36:07

next year and it didn't happen this year? And you can look at it in a variety of ways instead of beating yourself up.

36:13

Absolutely. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. And that's kind of the way that I go. But, uh, you know,

36:18

I guess I have lists, you know, so a similar thing, I guess I don't think of

36:22

them like goals, but that's good. Good point. They are goals.

36:25

They're like, and I just look and see what I can accomplish and what I can't.

36:29

And maybe the, the like, yeah. Okay.

36:31

I even added a new section to everything for 2024 of work toward.

36:37

Sure. Yeah. Not just, you know, here's a goal. You got to get this done or not.

36:41

That's a good idea. Toward. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool.

36:45

So looking forward to that, but always look forward to seeing you on stage. Yeah.

36:48

And the people that you were with, obviously, are just top notch as well. So fantastic stuff.

36:54

All right. You did say, you know, you were competitive in sports.

36:58

What sports were you in? I was in bowling, fast pitch, softball,

37:03

football, wrestling, basketball.

37:07

I would have been in any sport that I could have been in.

37:11

But there's some that just didn't work, you know, because you just only so much

37:15

time, I guess, when you're a kid and your parents only have so much money,

37:18

you know. I had you pegged as a wrestler.

37:20

Oh, really? Yeah. Yes, which I was as well. That's awesome. We should wrestle.

37:24

You want to wrestle? Oh, we can do it. I can't care down to arm wrestling at this age, though.

37:28

Thumb wrestling. And I'm taking a look at your arms going, oh shit, I won't win.

37:33

Thumb wrestle, we'll do that. Okay, we can handle that. All right.

37:37

Joel Shotwell. So Saturday night, what time?

37:40

7.30. 7.30 in Flandreau at the Crystal Theater. How do we get tickets and how much are they?

37:46

I think they're only 10 bucks at the door. 10 or 15 if you go to the Crystal

37:50

Theater website, I think they're on there. Yeah, I know. I'm like, that's pretty awesome.

37:55

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it's a great little venue, too.

37:59

Really cool spot. We like playing there. The people there have always been super cool. Yeah.

38:03

So. All right. Well, looking forward to it, my friend. Thanks,

38:07

man. And as always, thanks for stopping by.

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