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The Los Angeles County Sheriff has already
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had a couple of briefings with the media, and the
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medical examiner has given his overview
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of how the remains of those on board are being handled
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by Now, a go team of eighteen specialists
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and investigators from the National Transportation
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Safety Board has arrived at the crash site
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and will take over the scene and the investigation.
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Our mission is not to just determine
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what happened, but why it happened
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and how it happened to prevent a
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similar accident from ever happening
0:40
again. I'm Steve Gregory in Los Angeles
0:42
and this is the death and life of
0:45
Kobe Bryant. It's
0:48
January day
0:50
after the crash of the Sikorski s
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B. MTSB Board member Jennifer
0:55
Hammondy is head of the team and briefs the
0:57
media. We established parties
0:59
to the investor gation, the Federal Aviation
1:01
Administration, Skorski, Pratt
1:04
and Whitney, Canada Island Express,
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and the National Air Traffic Controllers
1:09
Association. We also established
1:11
investigative groups Operations
1:14
and Human Performance, air Traffic
1:16
Control, airworthiness power
1:18
Plants. We also have a weather investigator.
1:22
Our investigators began documenting
1:24
the scene, collecting evidence,
1:27
taking pictures, and we had drones
1:30
uh in the air to begin
1:33
mapping the wreckage.
1:37
There have been a lot of questions about the
1:39
FBI and why the FBI is here.
1:42
The NTSB has a memorandum
1:45
of understanding with the FBI
1:48
to help us collect evidence.
1:51
They are essentially a force multiplier
1:53
for the NTSB. There's no criminal
1:56
portion of this investigation. This
1:59
is our first full day. We're
2:01
continuing to gather information.
2:05
I do have some factual information
2:07
on the flight path. Initial
2:10
information shows that the helicopter was
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flying under visual flight
2:15
Rules or VFR, from
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John Wayne Airport to just southeast
2:19
of Burbank Airport. Around
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Burbank, the pilot requested to transit
2:25
controlled airspace under
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special visual flight Rules. Special
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VFR is an air traffic
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control authorization that
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allows an aircraft to proceed
2:38
through controlled airspace at
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less than the basic VFR
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minimums of a thousand foot
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ceiling and three miles visibility.
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A TC advised the pilot there
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was a delay due to traffic. While
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awaiting approval, the helicopter circled
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for twelve minutes until the special
2:59
vFire was proved by air traffic
3:01
control. The helicopter
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transited the Burbank and
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Van Nuys airspace at
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four dred feet and proceeded
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south then west. The
3:13
pilot requested flight following
3:16
to continue to Camario,
3:18
but Southern California tray con
3:21
advised the pilot that they were too low
3:23
for flight following. Approximately
3:26
four minutes later, the pilot
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advised they were climbing to avoid a
3:31
cloud layer. When
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a TC asked what the pilot planned
3:35
to do, there was no reply. Radar
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data indicates the helicopter climbed
3:41
to feet and then
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began a left descending turn. Last
3:45
radar contact was around am
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and is consistent with the accident
3:51
location. I
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do anticipate we will be
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here about five days
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unseen to collect perishable
4:00
evidence. We're going to continue
4:03
to document the scene. We
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are not here to determine the
4:07
cause of the accident. We will not determine
4:10
that on scene. She answers questions
4:12
from the media. The question is should
4:15
the pilot have been flying in
4:17
that in the fog uh
4:21
at that time. I mean, that's part of our investigation.
4:23
We look at weather and we'll
4:25
have to determine that at some point. The
4:28
question is to describe the wreckage scene
4:30
and whether I had been to the
4:32
recage uh to the
4:34
scene. I did go to the scene for several
4:36
hours. There is a
4:40
impact area on one of
4:42
the hills, and
4:45
the piece of the tail is
4:47
down the hill on the left
4:50
side of the hill. The
4:52
fuselage is over on the other
4:54
side of of that hill, and
4:57
then the main rotor is
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about a hundred yards beyond that. It
5:03
looks about The debris field is about
5:05
five hundreds of six
5:08
hundred. The question is was
5:10
did we recover a black box? There wasn't a black
5:12
box, and there isn't requirement to
5:15
have a black box on this question
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is was there any chance for survival?
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That's part of the investigation. I mean, it
5:23
was a pretty devastating accident
5:27
scene. The question is how
5:29
how confident are
5:31
we that will find a definitive cause
5:35
we do this all the time. Bryant's
5:40
wife, Vanessa, had requested a temporary
5:43
flight restriction or t f R from the
5:45
f a A, which closed off the air space
5:47
in a five mile radius with an altitude
5:49
of five thousand feet. Bryant said
5:52
she did this to protect the privacy of those on
5:54
board. Tuesday,
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January, the NTSB
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has spent a full day a gathering evidence from
6:01
the crash site and gives a status report. I
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wanted to give you an update of
6:05
what we accomplished today. I
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spent most of the day on the accident site.
6:10
A lot of our investigators were on scene
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continuing to examine and document
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the wreckage. We also looked
6:18
for the significant
6:20
components like actuators and
6:22
gearboxes to make sure that
6:24
they all arrived with the helicopter
6:27
on scene, and we were able
6:29
to verify that. We
6:32
also mentioned yesterday that
6:34
the pilot had an iPad
6:37
with four flight on it, so we were looking
6:39
for electronic devices as we always
6:41
do. We were able to recover
6:44
an iPad and a
6:46
cell phone. We do not
6:48
know if that's the pilots iPad,
6:51
so we're going to take those personal
6:53
electronic devices. We're going to send them
6:55
back to our lab at headquarters for
6:58
further analysis. Us We
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also located maintenance records
7:05
in the wreckage. We
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are not we can't discuss
7:10
we're not going to discuss the maintenance records
7:12
because we haven't looked at those. We found
7:15
them, we documented them, that will
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become that will come later. We
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found the airworthiness certificate,
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the registration, the
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company's operating manual weight
7:27
and balance sheets and everything
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we would expect would be on the
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aircraft. We
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also worked with drones today
7:38
to help the airworthiness group
7:41
locate those significant components
7:44
and continue to document
7:46
the scene. And then we
7:49
duplicated part of the flight
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path, so we flew part of the the
7:54
end part of the flight path with our drones
7:57
using using a d s B data.
8:03
Recovery operations occurred
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on scene today. A recovery
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crew was loading the wreckage
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in large white
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tarp bags which were
8:15
airlifted by helicopter from
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the scene and loaded on a truck
8:20
and will be moved to a secure location.
8:25
The UH that has already
8:27
occurred. UH so the
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that is on the truck and ready
8:31
to go. So we have turned
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the site officially over to
8:36
local authorities. We are done
8:38
on on the site.
8:42
Some of our accident investigators
8:44
began interviews today. We
8:47
interview we're working on interviews with
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air traffic Control, and
8:52
we had interviews with the operator. I don't
8:54
have any information to share with you at
8:56
this time about those interviews because those interviews
8:59
are ongoing and we haven't been able to connect.
9:02
They are working on setting up other
9:04
interviews for the next several days at
9:08
three PM, I held a family
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briefing by a conference
9:13
call. We do that with every
9:16
accident investigation. Either we hold
9:18
a family briefing to
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update them on the investigation, make sure
9:23
they're aware of information before we provide
9:25
it publicly, and
9:28
UM go through the process, the
9:30
NTSPS investigative process,
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and what they can expect over the next several
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weeks and months. I'm
9:37
not going to discuss the family briefing.
9:40
You're going to get asked if I get
9:42
questions about who was on the call, what
9:45
was discussed, I'm not going to answer that. Out
9:47
of respect for the families, I
9:51
am going to provide you some information for
9:53
some questions that were asked yesterday
9:55
and the day before and over the past
9:57
couple hours. With respect to
10:00
the pilot, I mentioned
10:02
that on the second class medical
10:05
certificate, which was dated July,
10:08
the pilot had two hundred hours
10:10
of flight time. Obviously that was July,
10:12
so the pilot has more flight time because
10:15
it's been some time since then. Out
10:18
of that, the pilot had
10:20
twelve hundred and fifty hours
10:23
of flight time on the S
10:25
seventy helicopter, so
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fifty hours on the helicopters, so that's
10:31
a good amount of experience. He's
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also been with a company for ten years. We
10:38
do know that the day before
10:40
the accident, he flew
10:42
from John Wayne Airport Airport to
10:45
Camaro and uh
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the weather was clear. It was a
10:50
different flight path, more direct, and
10:53
occurred about an hour later than
10:55
the one on Sunday. I
10:57
was asked about the descent rate of the
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helicopter. We
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know that the helicopter was at when
11:05
it lost communications with
11:09
air traffic control. The
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descent rate for the helicopter was
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over two thousand ft a minute, so
11:18
we know that this was a high
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energy impact crash
11:23
as the and the helicopter
11:26
was in a descending left bank. So
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with that, I want to stay. This is the last
11:30
press conference that we're going to have. Los
11:32
Angeles County Sheriff alex Bia Nueva
11:34
also provides an update for the media, but
11:37
moments before he's about to speak, he gets
11:39
an update the ele Count of Corners office
11:41
releasing the identities of four
11:43
of the victims who perish
11:45
in this crash, and those
11:47
are as follows John
11:50
Alta, Belly, Sarah
11:53
Chester, Era
11:56
Zobayan, the pilot, and
11:58
Kobe Bryant. They
12:01
have finished our identification, the next
12:03
of can have been notified. In all four circumstances,
12:07
the Corners had removed all remains. They're
12:09
going through the identification process to conclude
12:12
with the other five victims of
12:14
the accident. The emergency
12:18
ordinance remains in effect, so it's a misdemeanor
12:20
crime to access the crash site, and just
12:22
for your own safety and common sense, it's a
12:24
hazmat site, so it needs to be clean
12:26
up. It will take probably five to seven days and finish
12:29
it. They have to remove everything by hand
12:31
because they can't access it with heavy vehicles.
12:33
Within the next few days, the l A County Medical
12:35
Examiner's Office would release the names of
12:37
the remaining five people who died on that
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flight. Forty six
12:41
year old carry Out to Belly, thirty
12:44
eight year old Christina Mauser, fourteen
12:47
year old Alyssa Altera Belly, thirteen
12:49
year old Peyton Chester, and thirteen
12:52
year old Gianna Bryant. Coming
12:58
up the Ely County versus TMZ
13:02
and we learn more about the others who died in
13:04
the accident. As the death and life of Kobe
13:06
Bryant continues for
13:29
some the official release of the names of those
13:31
who died comes a little late between
13:34
the helicopters manifest friends and family
13:36
of the victims, The names of those on board the
13:38
flight had already been released through media
13:41
reports. The
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official naming of the victims becomes a source
13:45
spot for l A County Sheriff alex Fia Noueva.
13:48
At the first press briefing following the crash,
13:50
he specifically addresses the naming of the
13:53
victims. We have a manifest that indications
13:55
that there was nine people on board the aircraft,
13:58
the pilot plus eight individual Uh.
14:01
There is white speculation
14:03
is whose identities are. However, it is being
14:05
entirely inappropriate right now to identify
14:08
anyone by name until the corner
14:10
has made the identification through their very
14:13
deliberative prophets, and they've made made
14:15
notifications and next of kin, and
14:17
it would be extremely disrespectful
14:19
to understand that your loved one of those
14:22
parents that you learn about it from TMZ. That
14:25
is just wholly inappropriate.
14:27
So we're not going to be going there. I had a chance
14:29
to ask the sheriff why he called
14:31
out TMZ by name. I got
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that from Vanessa herself. She told me that
14:36
she found out from TMZ
14:39
that her husband was on the flight, and I thought that
14:41
is the most horrible thing possible that you could learn
14:43
the definitely a loved one through radio
14:46
or TV. It's like, wow, that's
14:49
that's I thought that
14:51
was just wildly inappropriate. I think that's
14:53
the very words I used. It's just
14:55
inappropriate. I think the
14:57
families need to know from
15:00
the authority, be it myself, be at the corner's
15:02
office or fire department. Once as confirmed,
15:04
okay, then report what you
15:06
ever want to, but that need to be the first
15:08
to announce something. They just didn't
15:11
get a rat's ass about the feelings of the families
15:13
involved, and that's that's what it really upset
15:15
me. The founder of TMZ, Harvey Levin,
15:17
was quick to clap back at both the sheriff
15:19
and others who criticized his coverage
15:22
and being the first to report the death of Kobe
15:24
Bryant. He tells the hosts of
15:26
the TV show the real exactly
15:29
what happened that morning. We got a
15:31
tip that this had happened,
15:33
and then we were
15:36
on the phone with with various people,
15:39
uh from Kobe's camp for an hour
15:41
before we posted the story. So
15:44
you know, all I can say is this that
15:47
you know, when somebody
15:50
of that magnitude dies
15:53
so tragically, this becomes
15:55
a worldwide, massive story.
15:58
And when you look at
16:00
the way these things come
16:03
down, I mean, when you think about it, um,
16:05
when there's a plane crash, um,
16:08
when you think about it, the media immediately
16:11
says, you know, flight so and so going
16:13
from Los Angeles to New York. You
16:15
know, and and they're basically
16:18
telling three families knowing
16:20
that their relatives were on the plane
16:22
because it's a news event, and
16:25
they're not waiting for you
16:27
know, the sheriff or whoever to come
16:29
out with all of you know, the notifications
16:32
or whatever, because they reported because it's a news
16:34
event. Autopsies
16:40
released by the l A County Medical Examiner
16:42
would show the pilot, RS A. Byan, had
16:44
no drugs or alcohol in his system.
16:47
Reports would also show that Kobe Bryant took a
16:49
prescription medication commonly given to those
16:51
who suffer from a d h D, and
16:53
his daughter Gianna used an inhaler most
16:55
typically used for asthma patients. Sadly,
16:57
the reports would also outlined just how
17:00
brutal the impact was. The
17:02
cause of death for all nine on board was
17:04
blunt force trauma coming
17:06
up the circumstances of the crash caused
17:09
a flurry of lawsuits as the death and life
17:11
of Kobe Bryant continues. On
17:29
the morning of January, nine
17:32
people died in that helicopter crash, but
17:34
most everyone only focused on one person, Kobe
17:37
Bryant, and as soon as it was confirmed
17:39
his daughter Gianna was also on board, the attention
17:41
shifted to father and daughter, but friends
17:43
and family of the other seven were equally saddened
17:46
with their loss. Among
17:48
those who were on that flight the Alta Bellies
17:51
John, his wife Carrie, and their daughter, Alyssa.
17:53
Alyssa was a member of the Mambas and Gianna's
17:55
teammate. John was best known as the
17:57
baseball coach at Orange Coast College and
18:00
host of Masa, California, and was entering his
18:02
twenty eight year as the head coach. John
18:04
played one season in the minors before getting into
18:06
coaching. Seated nearby were
18:08
Sarah and Peyton Chester. Peyton was also
18:11
Gianna's teammate and had hoped to play ball in
18:13
high school. In college, her mother, Sarah,
18:15
was involved in education. She was a member of the
18:17
board of trustees for the St. Margaret Private School
18:20
and had been a star soccer player. She
18:22
had also worked at the Tustin Memorial Academy
18:25
before leaving to spend more time with her family.
18:27
Christina Mauser was the assistant coach of the
18:29
Mamba's. Her daughter Penny, played for the lower
18:32
division of the Mamba's and was supposed to be on the
18:34
flight that morning. Coincidentally,
18:36
Mauser's husband, Matt, composed music
18:38
for Kobe's podcast The Punies. He
18:40
has since started the Christina Mauser Foundation,
18:43
which supports single mothers, women
18:45
and girls in sports through scholarships
18:47
in financial aid. Pilot
18:49
are Zabayan was a certified flight instructor
18:52
and in one became a private pilot
18:54
you know seven. He received his commercial pilots
18:57
license and had been flying for Kobe Bryant for about
18:59
two years. Zabaian had more
19:01
than two hundred hours of flight time
19:04
and was known as Big Z. A
19:07
byproduct of the accident would be lawsuits,
19:09
and there were plenty of them. Bryant's wife,
19:11
Vanessa, filed a lawsuit against the helicopter
19:14
company and the pilot's estate for wrongful
19:16
death. The other families would soon follow.
19:18
After the pilot's family received a copy of
19:20
the lawsuits, relatives responded
19:22
by saying the passengers aboard that flight knew
19:25
the risks when they boarded that morning, and
19:27
those same passengers could have played a role in the
19:29
crash. This also led to the estate
19:32
of the pilot to file a lawsuit against
19:34
two of the air traffic controllers, claiming
19:37
they had a role in the demise of
19:39
the flight. One
19:46
of the more interesting lawsuits was also filed
19:48
by Vanessa Bryant against the Los Angeles
19:50
County Sheriff's Department. Ali count of Sheriff's
19:52
deputies who responded to the crash site or
19:54
accused of taking graphic photos
19:56
and then sharing the trainey deputy at
19:58
the Laws Hills station and was allegedly
20:01
flashing gruesome accident photos at
20:03
a bar. That trainee and seven other
20:05
deputies were immediately ordered to delete
20:08
the picture of Alex Vienueva is apologizing
20:10
says he has ordered an internal investigation.
20:13
Sheriff Alex vien Aueva said he was blindsided
20:15
by the actions of his deputies. Punched to the
20:17
gut, you know, it's it
20:20
was such a hard scene. Dealing with
20:22
the family's firsthand and reassuring
20:25
them we're doing everything possible, and
20:27
then to find out, you know, days later
20:29
that this happened. It's just a
20:31
sense of betrayal. I asked the sheriff about
20:33
the status of the lawsuit because it was pending litigation
20:36
on the matter. You know, I can't comment on it, but
20:38
once the litigation is over, I'll be
20:40
more unhappy to answer those questions. We did take
20:43
appropriate, uh administrative
20:45
action based on the investigation we did, and
20:48
we'll leave it that. But as a product
20:51
of this entire incident, we
20:53
saw a need. Our policy didn't really
20:55
cover something like this. Our
20:58
policies on the department were design and for when
21:00
we have a celebrity and custody like
21:02
a mel Gibson, Paris Hilton, and
21:05
that's what our policy was really air tight about.
21:07
But an accident on public lands that's
21:10
not a criminal matter. We didn't
21:12
really have something to cover that. So
21:15
as a result of that, there are some shortcomings
21:18
and limitations and law. So I sponsored
21:20
assembly built and
21:23
it was signed in the law by the governor last year,
21:25
I believe in October. And this law
21:27
makes it a misdemeanor crime to take
21:31
photos or disseminate photos
21:33
from an accident scene of the deceased
21:35
unless it has a lawful purpose and
21:38
that really gave us two things. One, it's
21:41
a it turns factor. So
21:43
because you know throughout history, law
21:45
enforcement, fire people they
21:48
have what they called death books, you know, homicide
21:50
investor. They take their their work
21:52
home with them
21:54
and uh, what we're not we want
21:57
to do is discourage that practice. And now
21:59
with the digital age, it's more complicated.
22:02
So with this law, then we
22:04
want we're going to discourage that. We penalize
22:06
people who engage in the act too, but we can also
22:09
seize things which we couldn't see before
22:12
because now we have a crime that we can write
22:14
a search warrant on and be able to seize
22:16
things, and that's a very important So these are two
22:19
huge steps forward for
22:21
public safety here in California. The
22:23
taking of pictures at that crash site would also
22:25
force the demotion of a captain with the Los
22:27
Angeles County Fire Department. That captain
22:30
is suing the county for retaliation and
22:32
civil rights violations coming
22:34
up in episode four. I don't think any
22:37
of us could have
22:39
imagined this. A city says goodbye
22:42
to one of its own and still
22:44
to come. People around the world pay
22:46
their respects in very unique ways. The
22:51
death and life of Kobe Bryant is a production
22:53
of KFI news at i Heeart Media, Los
22:55
Angeles for the I Heart podcast network.
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