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power a. I'm
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Sharon Brick Kelly and today
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on the detail on here
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at Oakland Central Library, and
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I am with Zoe Calling,
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who is a librarian. I
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know this is kind of unusual for
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me, but you're going to take me
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on a tour of not the box,
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but something else. So should we start
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walking and talking, you can tell me
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all about us. Sure, yeah. Some books.
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Oh, it is some hoax. okay cove
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subtle that. mostly magazines. Photographs.
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A manuscript and femur?
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Okay. ephemeral. What's there's
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a famer is printed
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material and team to
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to have a limited
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lifespan. So some examples
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of a theme or
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posters, leaflets, Movie. Tickets
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so kind of throw away items things
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that we don't really think about. That's
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right, and you're a H When Title:
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I love it. Tell me what you're
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correct. Title and year at the Library.
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Associate. Curator Ephemera. so
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I'm one of. Two
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people. Who care for
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the of famer a collection?
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How to urge or clink
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Helpful libraries. The work involves
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acquiring a theme. Cataloguing.
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Urge and making it accessible
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to the public as well
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as using it and displays.
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I both. So
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we just come through the door
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was. At the library which.
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Sees that so last century
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and bed as the name.
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Oh the exhibition here. Well
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we could start with the first
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case. What
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are we looking at? This is a magazine.
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Yes, this is the mirror, the home journal
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of New Zealand. It's
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the cover of the magazine
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from October 1962 and
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I was so pleased when my
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colleague found this because we decided
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to use this image as
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the hero image for the exhibition. It's
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1960s, it's a bright yellow
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jumpsuit. There's also a
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very interesting kind of cane
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bag with a yellow ribbon
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and a yellow hat. We liked
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it because the outfit could be worn today.
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There's something timeless about it. And
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the little headlines on it
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say, The Shy Princess, The
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Forgotten Woman, Sessions, Personalities. Yes,
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some brief copy there. The
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magazine was aimed at middle class
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women. Where did your colleague find
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it? In the serials collection, sometimes with
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exhibitions we will go to the shelf
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and browse. I think in this case
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she knew about this title, she knew
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it was visually interesting material. I had
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never heard of it, but it's an
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example of one of the many magazines
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we have. Yes, a magazine that's produced
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in New Zealand, it's called New Zealand's
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National Journal. That's right. Where is the
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serials collection? That's a good question. There's
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a few different places. This
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particular magazine is kept behind a
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workroom on this floor. We
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also have thousands of serials in
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the basement. That would be where
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the bulk of the collection is. Members
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of the public can come in and request
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to view a lot of the material down
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there. It would be reference only
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material, so you're welcome to read
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the magazines in the library, but not
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borrow them. How far
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back do those magazines go? If
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we look at the case... Let's move to the new
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case. of
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the extent of the magazine
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and newspaper collection is the New Zealand
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Woman's Weekly. Hi I'm Jo Seager and
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here are my easy peasy mini cheese
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muffins. You
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throw everything into the bowl, it's so simple,
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quickly mix it together and you get 36
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muffins out of this recipe, very economical.
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Into the oven for 15 minutes and
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dada, they're ready. Great for an afterschool
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treat or just a cup for cocktails.
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For this easy peasy recipe and more,
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see this week's New Zealand Woman's Weekly.
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It's wonderful that our public
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library system holds the complete run and
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is still getting those
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issues of that iconic magazine. Oh
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what worry can do
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to your 55 face muscles? Some
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things don't change hey? No, no
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we're still worried about those worry
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lines. As well as
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astrology. I know astrology. Yeah
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astrologer Lindo forecast for the Beatles
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but they have been coming out.
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I think they did visit here
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that year. Come
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in will you come? Paul
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McBarry Ringo
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Starr and
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Gordon Harrison Thank
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you everybody who's come along today
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for turning up, for
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joining. So I
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don't know what we can say really. It's
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great to see the Mairi dancers. And
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yeah, thank you and beyond the
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wall with us. What? Can't
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see. I
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think there's possibly a photo in our
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collection of them near the town hall. I
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don't want to promise that. I feel
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like that's familiar. Oh we've got
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a couple of actual record albums in
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here. Yeah so we really
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wanted to make the exhibition visually
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interesting and showcase the variety of
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material. held by Auckland libraries
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and LPs are great for
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doing both those things. So
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Mr Lee Grant from the 60s. And
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Artis are amazing, Auckland
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based bangs. And
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I love the
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harem pants
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here. And
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the 80s shoulder pads. And it's a
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bonus that it is a signed LP.
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So that's a pretty special one. You
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can see the instructions from when these
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LPs were able to be borrowed
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and played. So there is some advice
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I think. Never leave records in a
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warm position. E.G. in cars. A
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diamond needle must always be
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used. Okay. Oh, what's
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this? These are two photographs.
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One from the 1960s, one from
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the 1970s showing two
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different wedding scenes. Sadly,
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we don't know the people in the images.
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We would love to be able to
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identify people in our images. And
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because these were taken during
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a period of time where people
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connected to the people in the images
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are alive now, there's
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a chance we can have these
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people identified and then connected back to those
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families. So really you're putting the call
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out to people come into the library, have a look at,
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you might see if they're there. photo of yourself from
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1960s ago. Yeah exactly.
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And I love this shot having a
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bride in a pantsuit in
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the 70s. We think that's
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very charming. Do you think that was you
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know quite radical to be wearing a pantsuit? I
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feel like it may have been. So
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Zoe what was the
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idea of this exhibition? When
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we decide on exhibitions we
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usually brainstorm as a
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group of subject librarian specialists
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and we think about recent exhibitions
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with Hajj. Like last year we
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had an exhibition focused on the
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medieval manuscripts and
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that was quite spare and you
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know these items from 500 years ago that we
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hold here and we like to contrast
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exhibitions so we
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thought focusing on a
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more recent time period and
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showing different collections like the amazing
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photographs that we have of people
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like these ones on the wall, the
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Raikkenberg Street photographs. Let's go
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and have a look at those. Yeah they're
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pretty stunning. Kind of poster
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size photographs. Yeah
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A1 size. There's 16 of
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them on two walls and
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they were all taken on Queen Street in
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Auckland in 1960. Auckland,
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the largest city in New Zealand with a
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population of over half a million people. It's
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a gorgeous city well planned and still
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growing fast. Friday night is shopping night
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and the city is bustling with people
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and traffic. Auckland is built
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on more than a score of volcanic coast
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thrown up thousands of years ago. And
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what I love about Bays is
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how right and
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his team of photographers really
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captured the diversity of Auckland.
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There's people from all different
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cultural backgrounds and economic
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backgrounds. You can see that from clothing
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they're wearing. We have these two
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women who may
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be in more 1950s
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style clothing, so the formal hats,
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one of them's wearing gloves. And the
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old bus in the background and the
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old car in the background. Yes, you
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can see the road works. Yeah,
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nothing changed there. Exactly.
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And who is Raikkenberg? John
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Raikkenberg immigrated from Holland in
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the 50s and
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had photography as a hobby,
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I believe, and then ended up having
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it as a career and set up a
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photography studio on Albert Street.
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He would take photos of people in
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public places like on
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the street or we've got photos
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in nightclubs and coffee lounges at
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the waterfront in walls, fair
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welling or welcoming people from
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ships. And then he would give
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people a card. They could pop
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into a studio and purchase a
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photograph. So for example,
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this woman in her beautiful
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Pacifica style dress. So he'd
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take a photo of her and then
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give her a card and say, if you
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want to buy this photo, come to my
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studio. That's right, yeah. And he had a
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team of photographers, so his wife was part
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of that team and there were other photographers
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working for him. You
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can sort of see a New
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Zealand look emerging. Yeah,
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I think often
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we would be not necessarily copying,
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but we'd be inspired by trends that
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were happening overseas. So
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there are lots of clear links to fashion
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trends that were happening elsewhere, like
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hemlines getting shorter. It's neat
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having a mix of posed
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shots and candid snaps.
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So that's the photograph.
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Like there's a good shot
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of I
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don't know 10 11 12 do you think?
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Yes. And
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these three have actually been identified which is
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neat. So we know their names. All
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of these images are accessible
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via Kura Heritage Collections Online.
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People can search these and
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I guess that's how
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they found themselves. Yeah, yeah
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lovely. What else have we got
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here? We have a case
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that looks at some fashion
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designers in Aotearoa and
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we've focused mostly on our
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photograph collection and magazine collection
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and when we highlight fashion designers we
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work with what we have so
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we're not able to
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focus on all the
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wonderful designers we have in this country. We
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look through indexes, we find articles
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in magazines and we
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look through our photograph collection to
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find stunning images like this Clifton
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first shot of
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the interior of Emanaki's
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salon on Derby Street and
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that story behind her and her
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family who were originally based in
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Taranaki she ended
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up sending her
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illustrations fashion illustrations to
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a group of designers in London. She
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ended up studying in London and then bringing
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her family back to Auckland to set up
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this shop. So very pioneering. What's
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your favorite here being the ephemera
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specialist? I do
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love the Rickenberg Street photos and we
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do have some neat pieces of
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ephemera I'm quite attached to. In
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one of the cases over here
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we have a
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lubrication chart for a sewing machine. So
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this is home sewing case
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and this wee manual
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when you open it up
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it just yeah it shows
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you how to oil your
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sewing machine so I guess
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it's about the size of a postcard
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but it's a little pamphlet is it?
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What about that because a lot of
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people would just probably throw that away.
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What about that that interests you? So
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it's from 1961 so I love
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it that it's been kept in such good condition
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for so long and I love
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it how it speaks to how
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popular home sewing was and also
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the technical skill involved in sewing
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which can be glossed
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over I guess. Learning
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how to sew skillfully will give you much
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pleasure besides making beautiful
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clothes you can add your
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own touch of genius to your home. Personally
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I find sewing very difficult I'm not able
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to thread a bobbin and I
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like it that this piece of ephemera highlights
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that manual and technical side of
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the skill involved in home sewing
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and what you need to do
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to keep your sewing machine in good nick. The
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other piece of ephemera I love is in this
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1950s and 1960s case and it's called Smith's
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Remnant Bargains and
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it's actually from a shop
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in Rangiura. Inside
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there are examples of fabric
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remnants and what you can
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do with those remnants so
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different ideas about what you can
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make with these scraps and I
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just love that idea. Well this
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is the triangular
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by New Zealand made
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label. It's a label. It's so
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iconic isn't it? It
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really is. We were trying to
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date it it was quite difficult to date it's
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from the 1990s on the award-winning website,
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there's about five different versions of
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that Buy New Zealand Made tag.
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Is that still going? I
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don't think so. So this case looks
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at manufacturing and we've
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highlighted the
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Cambridge Clothing Company records that
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we hold. We have
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a ring binder which has fabric
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swatches and an example
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of a man's suit. We actually
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have a few of the physical
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suits. They're sitting somewhere down
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in the basement. They have been carefully
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cared for by the preservation unit and
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when I went to try and look
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at the suits, they were in an
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archival box and there was a note
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saying please have a look at
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the photos instead. If it's for an
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exhibition that's much easier to just
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look through photos and we decided
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having one suit in a case
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when we are a small room
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would dominate too much. So we've
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gone with these photos of the
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factory floor. So it's interesting, a
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lot of this stuff is too
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precious for people to touch. You've
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got it behind in glass cabinets.
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Yes, it's a heritage collection,
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it's a non-circulating collection. People
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are able to view these items in
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our reading room. Oh they can. Do
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they have to put on gloves? I think the
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advice now is to have clean dry hands. Not
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wear gloves. Sometimes gloves can cause more damage
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because they're kind of fiddly. If you're trying
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to turn a page it can be difficult
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to grasp the corner. Oh
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that's interesting. So this exhibition
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space is our shop front.
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It's a way for people to get
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an understanding of what we hold
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and then they're welcome to explore more. They
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can book a time to meet with a
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librarian, to learn more or talk about what
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they might want to access from our collection.
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And do they have to have a reason for it? No,
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they don't need a reason
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at all. Any chance in going to
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have a locket where you get these
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things from. OK,
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we're in a corridor now. So
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we have a photo store as
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well, so that's temperature
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controlled for our photographic
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collections including photo albums,
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35mm slides, dark
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romes, the next smell, the
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chemicals. OK,
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dark romes, turn on the lights. Oh
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gosh. Lots of grey
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boxes. Yeah, part of our photograph
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collection. So in these shelves
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we have film negatives and
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we have I think it's over 200 photo
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albums. Many
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of our photographs have been digitised
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and are available via CURA heritage
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collections online. So anyone
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can browse the photographs like we
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did to choose images. How
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many did you browse through?
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Thousands. How long
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did it take? It
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took us three months to curate the
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exhibition, which is short. It's a short
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length of time. Usually
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takes four to six months.
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So will all of this
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eventually be digitised? No,
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like with the Reichenberg
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collection for example, there's 1.5 million
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negatives. So
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I think there's about 9,000 online. There's
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a selection process and
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criteria in terms of what
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gets digitised. I was
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talking to my colleague the other day and
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she was talking about how she
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chose to select posters as
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one of the first things to be
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digitised from the ephemera collection because they
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are so unwieldy. And then another priority
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would be items that are very fragile.
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So if there's an online version of
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it, then that is true.
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Yeah, reduces handling for that precious item
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such as Like
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I'm just thinking about some of our
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early ephemera like a ball program
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or Probably better
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called a dance card. You'd
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hope that archival Protection
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we provide for our items
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that they wouldn't disintegrate. Yeah, yeah
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having a digital vision is
20:23
very important And
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people just bring these into you today, so I don't
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know what to do with them. So can you take
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them? Yeah, and we do
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have policies around what we
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do collect because what we keep
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we keep forever So
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we have to be careful about what we say yes to
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That's all for the week I'm
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Sharon Brekkalie and thanks to Zoe
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Colling now if you're interested in
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looking at the exhibition It's on
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Auckland Central City Library until the
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13th of July The
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detail is funded by RNZ
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and NZ on Air. This episode was
21:04
engineered by Ben Perf and The
21:06
Venus Zimmer and Gwen McClure produced it.
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Kaki te ano
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