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تفرق
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اللحن
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نحن نريد أن نتخفى الحوار ونتtermij
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وسوف.. لنستطيع القضاء
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هل هذا الشيئ يقوم باقتقادي؟ حسنا
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As-salamu alaykum wa
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rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.
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It is your sister and friend, Adar,
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and you're listening to the
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Digital Sisterhood Podcast. I
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miss you guys so much.
2:16
I wish I could hug every single
2:19
one of you. First of all, Allah SWT deserves
2:21
all praise for allowing us to be back on the mic
2:24
again. You know the thing I always say
2:26
is there's the best kind of relationships, right? Or
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the relationships you have with people that maybe you haven't heard
2:31
from in a long time. But
2:33
when you guys do see each other, it's like time
2:35
hasn't passed. And I feel that way
2:37
about you guys. Although I haven't seen
2:41
or been on the mic for a very long time, I
2:43
still feel like time hasn't passed. It's
2:46
back like we never left. And
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as you can see, the episode started really differently
2:51
this time around. I
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mean, in the last few months, we've been shaking
2:55
it up Chicago, making
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it better, changing it, like
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figuring out how we want to tell stories in a new way.
3:03
And so we haven't been spending the last few months just
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really enjoying exploring
3:08
our creativity. And so we're really excited to
3:11
bring you some new stuff. And
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just like I said, we started the episode with a really different
3:16
way. We started with a conversation with
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a bunch of Somali aunties having
3:22
a conversation. And for those who aren't
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Somali native speakers, I'm going to explain to you what
3:26
those conversations were. So I love,
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and you guys already
3:32
know, I love gatherings of women. I
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love conversations that are
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being had with women, by women.
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It's just my vibe. I
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remember my mother every around
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like 9 p.m. I remember clockwork after
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she'd put us to bed or
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on weekends, she'd go over to her friend's house that
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wasn't too far off. And they would hang out in a basement
3:53
or in a living room with her friends, just talking
3:55
about life, right? Tell you some of the stories.
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I just distinctly remember. like
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the henna, the oodsi, you
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know, the ood smell, the bahtis,
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like the laughter,
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the conversations, the conversations,
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so many conversations happening all at once and just,
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I just remember, I feel like it was the very first time
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I actually fell in love with
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just sisterhood. Like I feel like that was my first
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introduction if I'm being completely honest.
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So I used to be a nosy
4:25
cat. I remember growing up, they used to call
4:27
me a tape recorder because whatever you told
4:29
me, whatever I heard, I'd go back and
4:31
tell my dad what was said. And
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oftentimes these women would just be talking about their lives, like
4:36
their back of the day. And I remember
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thinking my mom probably didn't think
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I understood what the conversations
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were, but boy did I understand.
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And so let me tell you about these conversations that was had,
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that our producer, Hannah, went to her neighborhood,
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which is very similar in a lot of cultures, having
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a bunch of women talking, having tea, but
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this time they were having conversation about love.
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And they were sharing their love stories and their
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experiences of love. And I remember one of the audsi was saying
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how, you know, she met this guy,
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she fell in love with insamalia. And
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then obviously she left some alia, lost contact
5:11
for years, and then reconnected
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in a new country and got married and had been
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married for 40 years, alamivatik.
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Like what is And I remember
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another auntie on the audio
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was talking about how back in the
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day, and I wish, like, I
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really wish that still occurred
5:30
today. But she was talking
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about how back in the day, obviously
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there wasn't technology in the way there is technology
5:36
today. So people used to send each other like
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love letters, like
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love letter, like people would write like sonnets
5:43
on a piece of paper and mail it to the person
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they were interested in, and they would read it and
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they would come back and then write a letter and then send it back. Like
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she said, that's how we do it. They used to send you letters like
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men would just send you.
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But I wish men still said letters.
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But anyway, and she told me, talked about how
6:00
that was how people
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courted back in the day. And I'm like, wow, we need to
6:05
bring that back. I'm kind of over the DMs
6:07
and the weirdness that happens on technology. I
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feel like when people write letters, it's a bit more personal
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and a bit more intentional, obviously, because it's
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like you're writing a letter. You're writing it down. You're getting ink.
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You're sitting down somewhere. You're thinking about your feelings,
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right? Instead of just shooting the
6:21
first thing on your mind. And then the last
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part, which was my favorite part, because
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they started to break out into singing. Born
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in line high school musical. And they started
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singing about how you're supposed
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to get to know men, right? But if
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they're wasting your time, tell them to hit that road. Jack,
6:37
you get me. Basically, they were saying, if
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he's not fulfilling what you want
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and what you want out of a relationship, if he's not doing
6:44
what he needs to, the irks out
6:47
the door, he goes. And I thought that
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was hilarious and thought about making that my ringtone.
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Still might make my ringtone, to be honest. These
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conversations, I learned a great deal.
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I feel like even at a very young age, I knew
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a lot about relationships and love. Maybe
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somebody my age would know. And so
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obviously, some of the years has passed. And I literally, I
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low-key think, OK? Maybe I'm crazy
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for saying this. And because also I'm a single girl, but
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I feel like low-key, like
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I know a great deal about love. I
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feel like I understand it. And I
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might sound naive saying that. But that's how I
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feel, because I've heard so many
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stories. I've been advised. I've had conversations
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with the OGs, with the girls
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in my age group and younger. I feel
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like I've assessed. I've analyzed.
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I kind of understand how things begin, when
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things get complicated. And so
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I call myself an expert. Maybe
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I shouldn't, but I do. And I'm going to say publicly
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on the microphone that I am an expert of love,
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which is why I thought this year's
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theme, this bundle of a series
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has to be love-tember.
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I mean, we didn't see the one. It was
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a hit. And I thought, you know, it deserves
7:59
a country. back, right? And
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I wanted this time to explore the
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actual word love in all
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its forms. An answer
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as well, some questions I
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had internally about love. And
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even for some of my friends, right, I want this
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to kind of be a piece, a series
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where it kind of answers the questions that we are kind
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of afraid to ask about love. I thought,
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you know what, I'm gonna do for the girls. I
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feel like I might make, I might make the
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bright person to tell you stories because I
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love love and for those who are out there that may
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have given up on love. Well girl,
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let me try to revive it for you. I
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want to start this series with an amazing
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story. I mean the best story
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about love I have ever
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heard personally. A story
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that trumps all love stories. I'm
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not exaggerating. I honestly
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feel like this story came
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to me in the most beautiful of ways, at
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the most beautiful time, in
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the most beautiful place in
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the message, in one of the
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nights of Ramadan. When I think
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about the story all the time, I really think about
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how the fact that I don't even really
9:12
know if the person I met was a real person. Okay,
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hear me out. I know you probably
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think I sound crazy. But let me tell you, like
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I'm not even sure if she was a person. Maybe
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she was an angel. I mean, take
9:24
this in. Imagine meeting somebody
9:26
at a place. They tell you a story that
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rocks your entire universe
9:31
and some more and then disappears.
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Poof, that ish. I'm
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sorry, is that a real person?
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I don't even know. But
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until today, it's still reminisce
9:42
about that story. So it's
9:45
kind of a lonely girl in Ramadan and so I spent that
9:47
time in the message, which you
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know, Hamdulillah, I would say was one of the
9:51
best Ramadan I have ever had in
9:54
my entire life. Because I literally
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spent every day, all 30 days in the
9:59
message. you know, breaking
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fast with Muslims. I did
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know, did not know. It was just such a wholesome
10:06
time for me. And so I'd come, you
10:08
know, a little bit before Maqrib, maybe a
10:10
Asar, I'd come, you know, read
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some Quran, listen to some lectures.
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And alhamdulillah, that masjid, or my masjid, shout
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out to KVW, it had a fasting
10:19
program, like a breaking fast program. So if
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you were on the road or you, you know,
10:24
were breaking fast alone and
10:26
you wanted to do it in a community, you can come to the masjid and
10:28
they would have food there for you. So
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girl, you know, I was there every day, like a
10:33
girl when, you know, no family, nobody
10:35
just by myself, I'm my lonely girl, you
10:37
know, Ramadan, which by the way, was the best Ramadan
10:40
of my entire life. But let me tell you,
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okay, let me get to the story. One day,
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and I want to say with the last 10 nights,
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I think was the first of the last 10 nights.
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I was sitting on the floor. It
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was like maybe like, let's say 30 minutes before
10:55
Maqrib. I was chilling on the
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floor, not in the masala, like in the hallway
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entrance and I might have been reading
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a Quran, I might have been reading a book, I might have been doing something
11:04
beneficial hopefully. And this
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auntie walks in, never seen her before, but I
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didn't pay any really mind of her until
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she grabs the chair. I
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saw her drag the chair and she was dragging it
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towards, she was coming towards me. She
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takes the chair and she puts it beside me. I
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think she's seen me before and I think
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she saw that I was alone. And
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maybe when she looked at me, she saw herself. And
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maybe I had a sad girl face, who knows? Or maybe I just,
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you know, like, you know, and when I think about
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like why she picked to sit with me or tell me her story,
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I really believe it's because she thought I was like,
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I reminded her of her. Alone
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and in worship and maybe a little
11:45
skeptic, maybe
11:47
a little cynical because I will say
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though, there was a time in my life where I just kind
11:52
of was like, and I talked about in my Dua story,
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where there was a period in my life I stopped asking
11:56
a lot for anything. And maybe
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she saw that on me. Or maybe a lost center, I
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don't know. I never see her again. Maybe she was an angel.
12:03
We don't even know. It's the biggest mystery
12:05
of my life. I'm being honest,
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it's the biggest mystery of my entire existence.
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And she told me a story that I have
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held with me ever since. It's
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not what I've ever forgotten. And so
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she comes and she grabs the chair, she puts
12:20
it beside me, and she looks at me, and
12:22
you know, it's kind of like, it really, really
12:25
wet like this. Can I tell
12:27
you a story? And
12:29
I look to her and you know, obviously me guys, you know I like stories,
12:32
okay? If someone's gonna tell me a story, I'm
12:34
going to listen. And so when
12:36
she says it to me, I'm like, oh yes, somebody
12:38
can tell me? Absolutely. So I turn my
12:40
body towards her, and she sits up, she
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looks at me, she's like, okay. Let me
12:45
tell you a story about a time a du'a
12:48
that I had made last Ramadan was accepted.
12:52
And so how many of you says to me, I am 60
12:55
years old. I was married once,
12:58
many, many years ago, and that marriage
13:00
ended in divorce. I was
13:02
never able to have children, and so
13:04
I spent most of my adult years alone. Always
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alone.
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I was a person
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who,
13:13
I wouldn't say was far from Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, but
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I was just a person that just lived.
13:18
My siblings, you know, lived scattered
13:20
around the world, you know, built their own
13:22
families, and I lived
13:25
alone in Canada here in Toronto. And
13:28
she's like, loneliness never bothered me. I did
13:31
have moments where I feel lonely and this had, but
13:34
how did I was always able to come to community
13:36
or call my friends and really fill
13:39
those gaps? And so if
13:41
I did feel lonely, it wasn't for too long.
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Until one year, I started
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to embark on a new journey,
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and that new journey was getting close to Allah subhanahu
13:51
wa ta'ala. I wanted
13:53
to be close to Allah, I wanted, you
13:55
know, to learn Quran, I wanted to be in the
13:57
masjid as often as I could.
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And...
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And when I started to learn about Allah more, I started
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to feel differently
14:05
about the things that I wanted out of life. I
14:07
thought living alone, you know, making
14:09
my own meals, having a routine was enough.
14:12
But when you learn about your religion and you learn
14:14
about the life after this life
14:16
and you learn just about everything
14:18
you need to know in order to live a life that you are happy
14:21
with, you start to change
14:23
the things that you want out of life. Now
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I've always wanted to go to Umrah. That
14:28
was something that was always on my bucket list. Matter
14:30
of fact, I regretted not going
14:33
to Umrah with my first husband, that
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I didn't take it seriously and I didn't make
14:37
it a requirement at the time.
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And by the time I got divorced, I really
14:42
just was in my own head and I was really just enjoying my
14:44
independence. And I was just okay
14:47
with the peace that I had. But
14:49
I started to learn the Quran and I started to learn
14:51
the experiences that people were having,
14:54
you know, going to pilgrimage and experiencing
14:56
that. I started to feel this longing, this
14:59
desire, this intense desire to go. But
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the only problem is, is that I
15:06
didn't have anyone to go with. And
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so I tried to make up a plan. I
15:12
called my brothers, I called my uncles,
15:14
I called all my male relatives
15:17
I had and I said, can
15:19
you take me to Umrah? I really want to
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go. I will cover all the costs.
15:24
Just take me, it's my time and
15:26
I really want to spend it worshiping Allah. But
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unfortunately, my uncles, my brothers, you know, they
15:31
have their own families, they have their own minds, they
15:33
have their own schedules and they weren't really able to take me.
15:36
And every time I tried to plan, something
15:39
would happen and it would all fall through. It
15:42
made me feel really sad because
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I started to feel like maybe
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Umrah is impossible for me. Maybe
15:49
it wasn't in the cards for
15:52
me. This
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thing I wanted to do so badly,
15:57
so much, maybe
15:59
it is something I'll be able to do
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and that scared me and
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So she explains to me that it really put
16:06
in this really deep depression because
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now she has this intense
16:11
longing to know Allah and
16:13
to love Allah and she's really on the journey
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what feels like She's on alone
16:18
She's realizing in a part of the experiences to do
16:20
with others. But what if you don't have
16:22
anyone and So when my
16:25
mom came at the perfect time as
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she explains to me and no longer
16:29
felt safe for her to be at home She
16:32
just feel the lonely just loneliness
16:34
to take over her And so she had decided
16:36
to come to the message to break
16:37
her fast and to break in community and
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hope to keep
16:41
The dark thoughts the negative thoughts at bay.
16:43
So she said to some I'm going to
16:45
ask Allah for the impossible things Right.
16:47
I'm going to ask a lot of things that trouble
16:49
me the things I truly truly
16:52
want And so I asked Allah
16:55
for a companion. I was asking
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Allah for love Love that was
16:59
more than just transactional
17:01
love that was more than just Romantic
17:04
but love that felt like
17:06
Allah was the center of everything they did and
17:08
they supported one another and they
17:11
accompanied one another And
17:13
although at the time she's like I really kind
17:15
of gave up on love at that point And
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I didn't think that maybe love suited me because
17:20
what could I really offer? How
17:22
Raha will wanted she wanted to
17:24
perfect her faith But what
17:27
does that look like for a woman in her
17:29
late 60s early 70s? How
17:32
possible is it to find love at that
17:34
age? When people
17:36
think at that point you should accept
17:39
however life has turned out for you It's
17:42
not the time to dream Thought
17:44
time to grow you've grown enough But
17:47
that's our experiences as humans. We're always growing
17:50
until we pass But
17:52
for Rama that moment like this deep desire
17:55
to like, you know go to Amra and find
17:57
a companion to grow in her deep to to
18:00
safeguard herself with someone, to
18:02
spend whatever time she has left. You
18:04
know, it just wasn't something she could shake off.
18:07
And it started with when she started
18:10
to learn her face, is when that desire
18:12
started to really place root
18:14
in her heart.
18:18
But she couldn't ignore those thoughts, man, like those thoughts that
18:20
we all have, right? Those, those like, oh,
18:22
how's that gonna work? Or who's gonna marry you and
18:25
who's gonna, it's real. It's real for everybody.
18:27
No matter how old you are, what age you are, what place you're at, no
18:30
matter what. That thought
18:32
in your head, those voices in your head telling you can't,
18:34
they're real. And they're loud.
18:37
When she says to me, you know, I asked a law
18:39
for the thing that I felt was impossible. At my age,
18:41
felt almost merely impossible.
18:44
Like if I were to tell somebody, oh, I'm asking
18:46
a law, you know, for a companion at,
18:49
you know, 68 years old, nearly 70,
18:51
I think they would look at me
18:53
and say, maybe,
18:56
you know, maybe that error is done for
18:58
you. Maybe ask for something else. And
19:01
she's like, but you know what? You know, nothing is impossible
19:03
for a law. And that's the truth. So I asked
19:05
a law and I asked him many times. I
19:08
asked again and again and
19:10
again. And then every time
19:12
I talked about it, every time I asked a law for it,
19:15
I would get more emotional about it.
19:17
Like I was pleading with the law.
19:20
Please make a way for me. Open
19:22
doors for me.
19:23
I have nobody else but you. I'm alone
19:25
in this. And she's
19:27
like, I asked a law and I asked and I asked.
19:30
I never got tired of asking.
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She said, even when I got tired, like when I physically
19:35
couldn't even ask anymore, I felt like my tears
19:37
asked. My,
19:40
you know, moments of silence asked. My heart asked.
19:43
She's like, I won't even lie. That was the most powerful
19:47
and productive of all that I have ever had. And
19:49
I always feel like it was the pain that I felt that
19:52
month that really drove me. If
19:56
I didn't feel those feelings, that sadness, that
19:58
kind of like, you know, covered I
20:00
don't know if I would have been, you know, as open
20:03
and as vulnerable as I was during that
20:05
month. And
20:15
in the last 10 nights, I
20:18
asked Allah in a way I've never
20:20
asked.
20:22
I begged him.
20:24
I begged him to provide me clarity,
20:27
understanding, to remove the feeling.
20:31
Will I remove this desire if
20:33
I can't have it? Remove
20:35
it. I don't want it. And Allah, if
20:38
it is for me, if I have these feelings for
20:40
a reason, make a way for me. Open
20:42
doors for me. Will I want
20:44
to come to your house? I
20:46
want to worship you the way that you deserve to be worshipped.
20:50
I want to do it the right way. I want to perfect my
20:52
faith. But this is where
20:54
I'm at. These are my crossroads. And
20:57
Allah, I submit to you. So
21:03
Ramadan ends, Eid
21:05
comes, she celebrates it, she goes back
21:07
to work, back to life, and
21:10
she moves on. She's like, I still,
21:12
you know, she's like, at the time of the time of Allah, she's like, Allah
21:14
gave me hope. Because even after Ramadan
21:17
ended, she's like, there was this lingering optimism
21:20
that couldn't really quite shake off. I didn't come back home
21:22
sad or in despair, but there was this hopefulness
21:25
I felt as if my soul
21:27
knew that Allah accepted or that something
21:30
was going to come soon. I didn't know what
21:32
it was, but I felt lighter. I felt,
21:34
I just felt the sense of optimism.
21:36
I can't quite tell you what it was. But she's
21:39
like, it's something I just, I felt sure of. And
21:43
she said, and then one day I get the news of a friend
21:45
whose husband passed away. And
21:47
when I came to give condolences, she's
21:50
like, I recognize that the people,
21:53
as a jinnah, weren't just people from the city I
21:55
live in, or people that were traveled from all
21:57
over. And as I was exiting,
22:00
my friend's home, I
22:02
bumped into a face I recognize. And
22:06
as I tried to make out his face, I see that
22:08
he's already smiling. He approaches
22:10
me and he says,
22:12
Rahama?
22:13
I look at him and I squint a little bit and
22:15
then I realize, oh my God,
22:18
it is a guy I used to know back in
22:21
Somalia
22:22
who I
22:23
think had a crush on me, I
22:25
think I had a crush on him, I am not even
22:27
totally sure. But there
22:29
was a liking between us that
22:32
never really got to season, that
22:35
we never really got to explore
22:38
because the war happened and our
22:40
families had to flee and we just lost
22:42
connection.
22:43
And here he was in front of me, gray-haired,
22:48
still had the same likeness about him, same
22:50
demeanor, but you can tell that life
22:52
happened. He looks at me and I look at
22:54
him, we smile at each other, I'm like, oh my God, when's the last time
22:57
I saw you? He's like, you know,
22:59
Subhanallah was 19, you
23:02
know, 80 something or 19, 70 something. And
23:05
they started talking about timelines and the last time
23:07
they saw each other and they recognized and see each other
23:10
until maybe a little bit after the war. And
23:13
Subhanallah at that point, life settled them
23:15
in different places and he had settled in the US. They
23:18
started telling her about like, what happened
23:20
with him and start updating their
23:22
lives quickly. He tells her that, you
23:24
know, I ended up in America, I
23:27
got married, I had four children,
23:29
alhamdulillah, they're grown, they have their own children,
23:32
so I'm a grandfather now. And
23:34
he's giving her like updates and he's doing it with
23:36
so much, you know, love in his eyes. And
23:38
this is the part that like Farahima
23:41
was, as she explained to me, it was the most difficult
23:43
part of reconnecting with people because,
23:45
you know, her life update to
23:48
others might be a difficult
23:50
one, might be a hard one to share. And
23:52
so he says to her naturally after sharing his own,
23:55
I mean, he's like, where did you go? And I
23:57
saw you as had kids and she's like,
23:59
Yes, I
24:02
did get married,
24:03
but I'm no longer married. And
24:05
I wasn't able to have children.
24:08
And she was waiting for the like, I'm sorry.
24:10
And you know, the natural response
24:13
that people might have to hearing about
24:15
how life turned out for her. But instead he says to
24:17
her, Alhamdulillah, I'm
24:20
sure Allah gave you a good life either
24:23
way. And she responds to him and she
24:25
says, he did Alhamdulillah. He
24:27
says to her, well, before you leave, I really would
24:29
like to like, you know, catch up with you because I'm
24:31
going to be here for a few weeks before I go
24:33
back. Can I get your number? And
24:36
this is the part that I thought it's okay because Hovra-Rihan was saying, I
24:38
felt like a 16 year old girl because, you
24:41
know, when was the last time a guy asked my number?
24:43
When was the last
24:45
time a guy asked for my number? She's like, it felt like he
24:48
teleported me back to when I was 16 years old. And
24:50
all of a sudden I'm getting shy, but she's like, I'm sure
24:52
he just wants to, you know, check on my wellbeing
24:55
and all that. And I'm sure he probably won't even call.
24:57
And she's giving herself excuses as to why he's asking her for
24:59
a number or maybe he just didn't know what to do after. But
25:02
she's like, I gave him my number and he
25:04
took it and he said, inshallah, I will call. And
25:07
she's like, as I was walking away, I just kept thinking,
25:09
is he going to? Will he call? If
25:13
so, Brahma goes back to her regular
25:15
life, right? She goes back to her regular routine,
25:18
except this time is a bit different. She's
25:20
doing a regular routine, but she's looking at her phone
25:23
like, when is he going to call? And
25:25
let me tell you, no matter how old
25:27
we are or where we're from,
25:30
women are all the same. Brahma
25:33
was the king. Oh
25:34
my God, he hasn't called me yet. One day
25:36
passes, the second day passes, four
25:39
day passes, a day, 14
25:41
days passes and
25:44
he hasn't called. And I'm almost
25:46
thinking, man, like, you
25:48
know, why didn't he call? Why didn't he call?
25:51
Maybe he's not interested. Maybe, you
25:53
know, maybe I'm just overthinking
25:56
this and starts to like, tell
25:58
herself, like, why don't I even like. hope
26:00
for this. I'm so annoyed with myself.
26:02
I'm 68 years old. When
26:05
am I going to grow up? And
26:08
he calls finally on the 15th
26:11
day. It was a day she didn't.
26:13
At that point, I decided he was never going to call
26:15
and she's like, let me not even
26:17
assume anymore. And I was right to
26:19
think that she probably just took my number just to take
26:22
it. So one night when
26:24
she got back from her outing,
26:27
she hears her phone ring. And she goes through her
26:29
phone. She picks it up and she says, hello.
26:32
And he responds with,
26:36
She's like, why are you so.
26:38
And he says to her,
26:40
why don't you honey, it's me.
26:43
And she's like, I just looked at the phone like,
26:46
he's calling me now. 15 days later.
26:50
She's like, I was like, I was like,
26:52
there's no way. There's no way he's calling me 15
26:55
days later. And she's like, but I still
26:57
wanted to hear what he had to say. And
27:00
she's like, ha,
27:02
I haven't heard from you. I didn't know if you
27:04
were going to call. And he's like, Oh, he
27:06
was like, if I'm being honest,
27:09
he's like, I didn't know if you wanted to hear from me. He's
27:12
like, the last few days I've been debating if, you
27:15
know, it was right to call you. And
27:17
she's like,
27:18
why would you think it wasn't?
27:21
And she's like, he got shy and then
27:23
tried to change the subject. She's
27:25
like, so I let him, I let him change the subject. Cause I really
27:27
didn't know where he was taking with that. And so
27:30
naturally he starts asking me how my day
27:32
was. I asked him about how his day was.
27:34
We had a couple of back and forth. He asked me about
27:37
my uncles and my family and why certain
27:39
things, like where we ended up and what
27:41
happened. And we didn't, and then we started to go down
27:43
memory lane. It was just a pleasant conversation. And
27:46
when it got late, we hung up graciously
27:49
and he said to me, I'll call you tomorrow.
27:51
For some reason I felt like he was going
27:54
to coil me tomorrow. Like he wasn't going to not
27:56
call me. And so the next thing he does the same thing.
27:58
He calls and we. have a pleasant
28:00
conversation because this time didn't pass. He was still
28:02
that guy in Somalia
28:04
and I was still that girl in Somalia. It was like nothing
28:08
had passed between us. So how long? And
28:11
I asked him, I said, um,
28:13
how's your wife? You know, is she with
28:16
you? I'd like to talk to her. He
28:18
sat in the third and he pauses. He pauses
28:20
for a while and he says to her, um,
28:23
I'm no longer
28:23
married.
28:25
Me and my wife had divorced five
28:27
years ago. And so I've been living alone,
28:30
um, killing, traveling
28:32
every now and then, visiting family. Um,
28:36
and so yeah, I haven't, I haven't been married for a long
28:38
time. And she was like, I
28:40
was so shocked. I literally like,
28:43
what, what are you, you're not married. He's
28:45
like, yeah. He's like, I thought I mentioned
28:47
this. He's like, no, you didn't mention it. He's
28:50
like, okay. I thought I assumed you would
28:52
know since I asked for your number. And
28:54
she started thinking, Oh my God, you know, like,
28:56
what if, like, what if we, you know, got married?
28:59
And she's like, Oh my God, it's such a crazy idea
29:01
to think, why would he want to marry me? You know,
29:03
I'm sure he just wants to keep his peace
29:05
and who gets married at 70 something
29:07
anyways, she's making all these excuses as
29:09
to, um, why he would
29:13
never propose, right? But
29:15
you couldn't even explain why he kept calling
29:17
either. Right. But anyways,
29:20
one day things took a turn. When
29:22
I called her and he picks, he calls
29:24
and he says, so I like him, I have
29:26
something to tell you. And
29:29
he says to her and she says to him, okay. Yeah.
29:31
Tell me like, what's going on? He's like, okay.
29:35
Please forgive me if this is like,
29:38
you know, not what you're hoping.
29:40
And maybe I'm insane,
29:42
but it's all there with me. I
29:46
have loved you my entire
29:48
life. I
29:50
have thought about you for a very long
29:52
time. I never imagined
29:56
that Allah would allow our path to
29:58
cross, but here we are. I'm
30:02
single, you're single, and
30:05
I cannot imagine life without you. Can
30:08
I have your hand in marriage? Will
30:11
you marry me? At
30:13
this point, I was going to imagine,
30:15
you know my lover girl, in my lover girl era, I'm
30:18
obsessed with the story already. I
30:21
think I already had tears in my eyes, and I just thought,
30:23
Raha's not even talking to me anymore. Like
30:26
at some point of her storytelling, she started to look in
30:28
the distance, and she can still remember that
30:30
moment, and that moment meant
30:32
so much to her. And as she goes
30:35
quiet, and she looks down, it's
30:38
like her face changed, and
30:40
she says, and I responded to him
30:42
in a way that I regret, but
30:44
it was truthful to me. Instead
30:47
of immediately saying, yes, yes,
30:49
yes, instead I said
30:51
to him, what would you want to
30:53
do with a woman like me? My
30:56
beauty has faded. I don't
30:58
have the same energy as I used to. I
31:00
can barely stand to cook longer
31:03
than 15 minutes, and I
31:05
can't bear you any children. Why
31:07
would you want to marry a woman like that? My
31:10
heart shattered here in
31:12
her say that. And I can tell that when
31:14
she had said that part to me, it shattered
31:17
her too. Not that she, you know,
31:19
she's saying this to the person that she loves, but she's
31:21
saying this because that's how she felt
31:23
at the time. And he says to
31:26
her, I'm not marrying you for your beauty,
31:29
nor that if you can bear children for me, or marrying
31:32
you to cook for me. I'm marrying
31:34
you because I want you to be my
31:36
companion in this life and
31:38
the next. The
31:41
part of what Abdukani said
31:43
that was so beautiful for me to hear that
31:45
really brought tears to my eyes was he
31:48
used the word companion. The
31:51
same word Habirahma used
31:53
when she was making dua'at Allah. Oh
31:56
Allah, grant me a companion. And it's
31:58
the same word he used to comfort her. to
32:00
marry him. The biggest sign
32:03
you can see that this, this
32:06
moment was the acceptance of the dua
32:08
she had made.
32:13
And at the time I know of Rahmah was like well it's not exactly everything
32:15
you know she made dua for a companion yes that's one part
32:18
of the event right? But still
32:20
it's still a part that Allah accepted and
32:23
I can only imagine how overdrawed
32:25
she had felt. Allah Subhanallah
32:28
the way Allah Subhanallah allows things to happen
32:30
in our lives right? It's almost
32:33
it feels as though that when Allah
32:35
Subhanallah accepts things accept dua as
32:37
from us it's out of love. It's
32:39
out of love for us so much
32:42
so that like in the the
32:44
moment that dua is being accepted
32:47
you can feel Allah Subhanallah because
32:50
how can you describe of the
32:52
Qani using the language that
32:55
she had used when she asked Allah
32:57
from his bounty. So
33:02
you're probably wondering right now in the story is like what
33:04
does a you know a Muslim
33:07
you know couple in their late you know 60s
33:09
early 70s this beautiful
33:11
moment of two people that want to get to marry look like right?
33:14
Well let me tell you so
33:16
it was very simple may Allah Subhanallah bless
33:18
the book you know at that
33:21
age you just when you know you know it
33:23
was very clear from this is the thing they wanted and they were
33:25
gonna go for it and so when she
33:27
accepted his proposal she
33:30
sends her uncle and and she tells
33:32
me a little funny story about when she called
33:34
her uncle she's like oh and this
33:37
is her dad's brother because she called her dad's
33:39
brother he calls her he says hi
33:42
uncle and he's like how are you long time yeah I
33:44
decided to start and she says I need your
33:46
help
33:46
and
33:49
he's like yeah
33:51
what can I help you with she's like I'm going to get
33:53
married and his name's of the Qani
33:56
and her uncle was you know he wasn't taken
33:59
back at all he was like wow this is amazing I'm
34:01
happy for yes yes yes
34:04
who is he and I'm like oh he's a guy used to
34:06
know Somalia he's going to call
34:08
you he's like okay and sha'al let him come so
34:11
he hangs up you know Abukani calls his
34:13
uncle turns out you know they
34:15
used to know each other or their parents you know he used
34:17
to know his parents and you
34:20
know he's overjoyed by it they
34:22
confirm the mehir and
34:24
he says to Abukani I give you my daughter essentially
34:27
for good inshallah we also
34:29
said bless your union you have my approval
34:31
so nobody calls for Hamid he says listen
34:34
we're gonna go to message on Wednesday we're gonna
34:36
tell the imams that we want to get married to the next
34:38
day on Thursday after Makkadim
34:40
feeding the fasting inshallah and
34:43
we can go home that evening as husband and wife
34:45
what do you think and she's like I've
34:48
never said yes faster in my life yes
34:50
let's do it she's like it was just so strange
34:53
I had to find an outfit I had to call my friends
34:55
I had to you know figure out something that was really nice
34:57
and you know it was just like it was just I
35:00
could not believe what was happening in
35:02
my life like I could not believe I'd
35:04
found my person and here I was
35:07
you know wearing something
35:09
to my wedding and
35:11
halas I'm gonna be a married woman and
35:15
in a day she's like I just could not believe
35:17
it all I kept saying that day was just
35:19
an alhamdulillah Allah so generous
35:21
Allah so generous Allah so kind to me
35:24
so Wednesday is a
35:26
day that I'm gonna go to the Masjid and tell the imam
35:28
to arrange their nik'ah on a Thursday night
35:31
bad al makhrib so they both
35:34
come to the message separately they
35:36
met upstairs and if you know my local Masjid
35:39
the men section have their own door the women section has
35:41
their own door and there's
35:43
a curtain upstairs in
35:46
front of the imams offices that segregate
35:48
soo men and women and so when
35:50
she came upstairs and she's on her side of the curtain
35:52
she didn't know he was there until he signaled
35:55
and said you know and like he cost
35:57
and so she knew he was on the other side of
35:59
the So he goes into the imam's
36:02
office, he calls the imam out, the imam comes
36:04
out, and he looks at both of them and
36:06
he says, um, how can I help you guys?
36:09
And he's like, um, I'd like to arrange something
36:11
tomorrow. And he's like, uh,
36:13
yeah, um, are we arranging a jenaza?
36:17
Are you arranging the body to be here? Like what exactly are
36:19
we arranging? And he's like, no, no, no,
36:21
not of that. I
36:23
would like to arrange our nikah. And
36:26
she explains to me, I don't know how he says it, the imam's
36:29
face lit up. He literally was like, oh,
36:31
you guys are getting married? Yes. You
36:34
guys are getting married? Absolutely. When
36:36
would you like to get married? Tomorrow after
36:39
muklev, we'd like to like feed the fasting.
36:42
Um, and we'd like it to happen then, uh,
36:44
on the eve of jenba. Imam's
36:47
like, beautiful. Absolutely.
36:50
I will support you guys in it. Shallah. We'll,
36:53
we'll try to decorate the mess in a little bit to make it festive
36:55
for you guys. You guys can arrange
36:57
the food in shallah. It will happen after
36:59
muklev here tomorrow. And
37:02
she's like, it was such a surreal
37:04
moment. Like even when the imam walked
37:06
away, he had a little bit of pepper for step. Like he, he
37:08
was, you know, it was an unexpected,
37:11
um, conversation, but it was one that made him happy
37:14
and it reflected how happy we were. And
37:17
so when that was done, I lingered
37:20
around the curtain, um, to hear if he would say
37:22
anything to me. And he says to me, wait, before
37:24
you leave, I have to give you something.
37:30
He just sticked out his hand and
37:32
in his hand was an envelope. At
37:35
this point she's like, you know, I've gotten everything
37:37
I ever wanted. She's like, I thought that,
37:39
you know, alhamdulillah, like Allah has given me exactly
37:41
what I, what I wanted. And
37:44
she said, but yeah, Allah sometimes had more for
37:46
me. And she said,
37:48
he sticks out his hand and has a hand envelope
37:50
and then he says to me, open it. And
37:52
she goes, I open it. I take
37:54
it out. It's like a printed ticket
37:57
and on a ticket is mine. name,
38:01
his name,
38:02
and it says a
38:04
ticket
38:05
to Mecca. A
38:07
ticket not only to Mecca, but a ticket
38:09
to Medina, and that we were
38:11
going to Umrah. Essentially what was what was said
38:13
on that document that we were going to Umrah. And
38:15
she's like, I couldn't even contain myself.
38:18
I started to instantly start crying.
38:21
Because the part that like, she's
38:23
like, that really like blew it
38:25
for me was I didn't even tell him that
38:27
I wanted to go to Umrah. I didn't
38:29
even tell him that he was an answer to that
38:32
I had made the Ramadan that had just passed.
38:34
Allah Sallallahu
38:36
Alaihi Wasallam was allowing, you know, all of
38:38
these things to be presented to me. But
38:40
it was genuine. He
38:43
had no idea. He had no idea I wanted to go Umrah. I
38:45
had no idea I was going to find my person. It was just all
38:47
of it was happening before my
38:50
eyes. And I just instantly started crying.
38:52
She's a guy that hadn't cried that he just looked at me like
38:54
he was on the other side of the crowd.
38:55
He can hear me sobbing. He's like, I'm sorry, are you okay?
38:58
When I was able to like say something, when Habrah was
39:00
able to say something, she's like, I had
39:02
to set to him and like my broken voice.
39:05
I asked Allah if
39:07
he can open a door for me to go to Umrah. And
39:10
I could go with my companion and Allah gave me just
39:12
that and more. A
39:16
woman who is in her late 60s, who
39:19
thinks he has nothing left to offer
39:21
anyone or the world, who
39:23
may felt insignificant or invaluable.
39:26
But at that moment, I felt like the most valuable person
39:29
in the world and deserving. There
39:32
was only a lot that made me feel that way.
39:34
I was sobbing at this point, like,
39:36
like ugly girl, crying.
39:40
And I remember when she had just finished that
39:42
point, it was kind of like movie-esque guys. I might even
39:44
lie to you. It was like the best story I've ever
39:46
heard. And it was happening at the message. And
39:48
we're just still waiting for the advent. And as
39:50
soon as she had said that part, you just hear the ad that a muk ad
39:53
just go off. Okay, that just
39:55
like, just imagine Allah and the whole
39:58
ad that's happening. And I'm getting chills around. And
40:00
she says to me, I just want to tell you one thing. And the
40:02
reason why I tell you this story. Do
40:04
not despair in the mercy of Allah. Subhana wa
40:06
sallam. Do not, do
40:09
not. Well, you ask from Allah,
40:12
make it grandiose, make it huge, make
40:15
it something that you feel like, you
40:17
know, you know, it's possible, but it's just hard
40:19
to conceptualize. Believe in Allah that
40:22
much, believe in Allah that much. And
40:24
ask from His bounty to be intense
40:27
to give it to you. Ask for Him, especially
40:29
in the last few nights. Ask
40:31
Allah, ask Allah in the way you've never asked Allah
40:34
in your entire life. Open
40:37
yourself to that. And
40:39
I'm looking at her and she just smiles at me, she
40:42
gets up, but she closes her chair and she enters
40:44
the Musallah. I'm just sitting there in
40:46
just awe. She
40:49
just changed my
40:51
entire life.
40:54
Not to be dramatic, but to be dramatic.
40:57
Because that is the most beautiful love story I've
40:59
ever heard. Like ever,
41:01
ever, ever, ever heard. And we're talking about, I
41:04
am blown away.
41:08
And let me tell you why I'm really blown away. Okay, I really
41:10
want to paint you guys a picture why I'm really blown away by this. Because
41:13
before this moment, before this story,
41:16
I was a girl who loved
41:18
the idea of love, loved seeing
41:20
the manifestations of it. I mean, like I've watched
41:23
every wrong comment out there. Okay,
41:25
I've read every Tyler book in grade
41:27
A. I am a serial
41:30
lover of love. But there's something
41:32
that I've always struggled with in my entire
41:34
life. Was I could not not in my entire life, particularly
41:37
when I became more conscious of Allah in my entire life. And
41:39
obviously my life changed drastically
41:41
where I centralized and understand Allah
41:44
in such a big way, a main character
41:46
in my life. I've always felt a little
41:48
disconnected with obviously Hollywood's version
41:50
of love. Right, because in all of their
41:52
stories, in all of their books, it
41:55
doesn't include a lot at all. A lot
41:57
is not involved in every love story
41:59
I've yet.
41:59
to hear. I've never seen it before.
42:02
And
42:03
for a long time I felt like I
42:05
liked the idea of love, I never really could imagine
42:07
it for myself. Which I feel like is probably
42:10
the reason why I was never able to really formulate
42:13
a du'a about marriage. And I'm admitting something
42:15
that's pretty awkward, maybe
42:17
pretty odd for me to say. But up
42:19
until that moment, after hearing Abraha's story, was
42:22
the very first time I walked in
42:24
right after her in the masala and
42:26
I made du'a for marriage. Before that,
42:28
I don't think I ever did that. Maybe
42:31
I did it in like off a whim or when people make
42:33
du'a for me I just say, I mean, but
42:35
I've never like at that point sat down,
42:37
raised my hand, and intentionally
42:39
made du'a in finding my person. That's
42:43
how impactful that story was. Because
42:46
for the very first time, I could imagine
42:48
myself
42:49
in a love story
42:51
because of HaRahma. HaRahma has single-handedly
42:55
decimated a genre for me that I
42:57
held, I guess very dear, and
43:00
created a new genre I like
43:02
to call a halal love story.
43:04
It's a love story that Allah put the
43:06
barakah in it. Because Allah's rahmatullahi
43:09
ala always has and will always be
43:11
the source of love. I
43:14
mean, his name is Al-Wadud after all.
43:16
The most loving, the beloved, the one
43:18
who is faithful to his servants and
43:20
shows them the purest form of
43:23
love. That is what season
43:25
three is going to be all about, or
43:27
the ending of season three. What love-temper
43:29
is going to be all about is for us
43:32
to understand what true love is, to
43:34
recognize when we see it, and
43:36
to understand the manifestations of love
43:38
in our lives today. From
43:41
being honest, this entire podcast
43:43
pretty much is a love's letter to Allah. And
43:46
if you're listening to this and thinking, when
43:48
will be my time? When will I experience
43:51
true love? When will I know love?
43:53
Even after hearing HaRahma's story, and
43:56
you're just asking yourself still, is there
43:59
still Hope for me. Is
44:01
there still hope? My answer to
44:03
you is this. There is
44:05
always hope for love. Still.
44:11
Before I let you guys go, I have to
44:13
give a warm thank you to the wonderful
44:15
team that produced this episode and when I tell
44:18
you they smashed it, I mean they smashed
44:20
it, and you already know how I feel about shout outs, I have
44:22
to give a shout out. So I have to give a shout out
44:24
to our guest producer that
44:26
produced this episode. So listen
44:28
up, Delahi, you actually smashed
44:31
the girl. I am so
44:33
impressed by how you did this episode. Congratulations.
44:36
It was 10 out of 10. If I say so
44:38
myself. I also love to give
44:39
a shout out to our lead producer, the new
44:42
girl on the team,
44:43
Hannah Avin. Girl,
44:46
the little things that you put into this, how you did
44:48
it, how you put it together was phenomenal.
44:50
I'm so excited to see what you're going to do in the future.
44:53
I also love to give a shout out to our guest
44:55
writer,
44:55
our first ever
44:57
guest writer, because you know now we got a writer's
44:59
team, Naioma Arista, Alama
45:02
Bhatta. When I tell you you brought these words together, I mean
45:04
you brought these words together, Alama Bhatta. Shout
45:07
out to you sis. I also love to give a shout out to Wasi
45:10
Laffada on the graphic design and
45:12
cover art. Oh man,
45:14
I don't even know how you're not doing
45:16
everybody's art yet. We're little key
45:19
gatekeeper. Don't take it from us. Wasi Laffada, you
45:21
did that girl. I also love to give a shout out
45:23
to our project manager, the second new girl.
45:26
Actually the third new girl on the block, because
45:28
Naioma is also a new girl, but the third girl
45:30
on the block is Meheen Khan. You
45:32
know, you got us all
45:35
the way together girl. It's like getting both talks. You know when you get
45:37
it all the way together, you got us all the way together.
45:39
Just like Alama Bhatta, Meheen, for all the stuff that you did, phenomenal.
45:42
Can't wait to see what you're going to do in the future. I also
45:45
love to give a shout out to our sound designer, Yousuf
45:47
Duazu. You killed it. You
45:50
added your spice and brought
45:52
the story. He brought it to life. Alama
45:54
Bhatta, shout out to you man. And our
45:56
last definitely not least marketing
45:59
extraordinaire. Number one
46:01
and number two, Sosun Abdulahi, Jazakul
46:04
Khay for all that you do. Thank you
46:06
everybody, thank you to the team. You guys killed
46:08
it. If you enjoyed today's
46:10
episode, know that tons
46:12
of hours, blood, sweat, tears
46:15
have gone into it. In fact, we have
46:17
a whole new team of
46:19
writers, producers, project
46:22
managers. I mean, it's a whole new team.
46:25
This means that donations and support to
46:27
help us keep going really goes a long
46:29
way. If you can't donate, then we
46:32
appreciate your joys, messages,
46:34
and kind words. I'm
46:37
not a writer, I'm a writer.
46:39
I'm a writer. I'm a
46:42
writer. I'm a
46:45
writer. Alright,
46:48
that's it y'all. I will see you as
46:50
per use next week
46:53
in your ears, in your speakers, telling
46:55
you a good story.
47:27
Thank you.
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