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Welcome to the

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Disney beat a podcast brought to

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you by the TheDisInsider.com. My

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name is Sean Nyberg and I will

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be covering all of the Disney

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headlines to keep you informed

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as you start your week. Hello

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there This is Sean Nyberg and

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this is a very special edition

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of the Disney v podcast. I

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recently had the pleasure of

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speaking with one of the most

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popular and beloved Disney

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youtubers around jack Kendall

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from the dsny newscast. Our

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conversation lasted two and a

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half hours and we covered a wide

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range of topics. I'll be

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releasing the conversation in

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three parts starting with an in

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depth discussion about the

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Disney theme parks. We cover all

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the changes coming to the Walt

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Disney World Resort in Florida

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Disneyland Resort in Anaheim and

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Disneyland Paris. We discuss the

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big 50th anniversary coming to

0:57

the Magic Kingdom along with

1:01

Epcot 40th celebration, the Walt

1:01

Disney company's 100th birthday

1:05

and Disneyland 75th and 75th

1:05

coming later this decade, part

1:10

two of the conversation will

1:10

cover the Walt Disney Company,

1:13

current management Disney plus

1:13

and Disney's upcoming slate of

1:17

movies for 2021. Finally, in

1:17

part three, jack and I dive a

1:21

bit deeper into the Disney

1:21

fandom and discuss the joys and

1:24

pitfalls of being a Disney

1:24

YouTuber. We look at the

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different styles of Disney news

1:28

coverage and what it takes to

1:30

stand out amongst the crowd. But

1:30

first, here's part one of our

1:34

conversation. Enjoy as we dive

1:34

deep into the weeds and cover

1:37

every square foot of the Disney

1:37

theme parks. Alright, hello

1:40

there. I'm Sean Nyberg and this

1:40

is the Disney podcast brought to

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you by the Disney Insider. I'm

1:43

very excited about today's

1:45

special episode, I'm joined by

1:45

the host of one of the most

1:48

popular and beloved Disney

1:48

YouTube channels, covering all

1:51

aspects of the Walt Disney

1:51

Company with a slight emphasis

1:53

on the theme parks joining us

1:53

from the United Kingdom host of

1:56

the dsny newscast. Please

1:56

welcome jack. How's it going,

1:59

buddy?

2:00

everything's going

2:00

well. It's currently a little

2:02

bit later here. We're a bit

2:02

behind a bit in front of you in

2:06

California, or the west coast.

2:06

But yeah, it's doing well.

2:10

Thanks.

2:11

Well, I am glad you can make it. I'm glad we can make it work. Before we get into

2:13

everything I just want to do the

2:15

the standard intro that we have

2:15

to do. We got a please follow

2:19

jack on his YouTube by searching

2:19

dsny newscast that's dsny Disney

2:23

without the vowels. Also on

2:23

Twitter and Instagram at the

2:26

handles at dsny newscast. I'll

2:26

provide a link to the show notes

2:30

to his YouTube channel and

2:30

social media accounts with this

2:34

podcast. So go check those out.

2:34

So what's going on? How's it

2:37

going? How's it we're not gonna

2:37

get into COVID? We talked about

2:40

that we don't Yeah, it's gonna

2:40

come up when he talks about the

2:42

company. But we have to at least

2:42

just say, you know, I feel like

2:45

everyone's a bit tough.

2:46

Well, it's like,

2:46

dominated so much of the last

2:48

year. And I noticed around the

2:48

summertime, I was like, actually

2:53

put out a poll and said, Do you

2:53

want me to continue talking

2:55

about COVID stuff on DSLR

2:55

newscasts and people like we've

2:58

had enough of it, okay. We're,

2:58

we understand it's important. We

3:01

understand it, you know, follow

3:01

rules and do stuff to try and

3:05

suppress virus but like, we come

3:05

to your channel for Disney news.

3:09

You know, and I almost felt like

3:09

I was becoming COVID newscast

3:12

after a while. So it's like,

3:12

Yeah, I don't even want to

3:16

become that guy. There's enough

3:16

epidemiologists who know this

3:20

stuff properly. And I don't want

3:20

to like pretend. So let's, let's

3:24

get back to the Disney news side

3:24

of things. But yeah,

3:26

didn't you make like, we did a video where you said, like, I'm not going to do

3:28

every little update? Yeah,

3:32

right. Like every tiny little

3:32

change to every little thing.

3:36

Well, especially and

3:36

I'm so glad I did that because

3:39

looking at how the parks closed

3:39

and reopened and closed again,

3:43

like in the case of Hong Kong,

3:43

disneyland paris back that

3:46

reopened throughout the summer

3:46

of last year. Now it's closed

3:49

again. And then obviously

3:49

tracking all the updates of

3:51

Disneyland resorts. I know that's a bit of a sensitive topic for many people that still

3:53

closed committed via Mark but ya

3:58

know, I, I just didn't want to

3:58

continually have to cover the

4:02

same ground and especially with

4:02

all the guidelines, the physical

4:05

distancing, and all the other

4:05

stuff. Once we found them out

4:08

for like Disney Springs and Walt

4:08

Disney World or Shanghai, when

4:11

that first open like it was

4:11

going to be the same across the

4:14

board. It was going to be the same at Disneyland or Disney powers or Hong Kong Disneyland.

4:16

It's going to be the same across

4:18

the board. So yep, yeah.

4:20

Yep. And they're going to be changing. I know, even this morning. They there

4:21

are some changes made at the

4:24

Walt Disney World Resort. So um,

4:24

yeah, so we just said we're not

4:28

gonna talk about COVID. So I

4:28

mean, it will come up obviously,

4:31

because we're gonna talk about

4:31

you know, the the economy, you

4:33

know, the business side. So, but

4:33

let's, let's get to know you a

4:35

little bit. So, um, jack, I gave

4:35

you these. There's only four

4:38

questions here. This is just I

4:38

like to start off with these so

4:41

that people can decide if they

4:41

like you or not right off the

4:44

bat.

4:44

Okay. And then they're not gonna like

4:49

any Disney part. What's your What's your favorite? Just start with your

4:50

favorite Disney park. I know you've been to more than most

4:52

people.

4:54

Yeah. So I've never

4:54

been to the Asian parks. But the

4:58

ones I've been to obviously Disneyland Paris is my home. Part One, which I went to the

5:00

most growing up. I have a soft

5:04

spot for it, but it's not my

5:04

favorite. But one which I like

5:06

the most is Epcot. And if you

5:06

want my quick ranking of the

5:10

Walt Disney World parks, it

5:10

would be Epcot. I'll do it. I

5:14

would say Epcot, Disney's

5:14

Hollywood Studios now, Magic

5:17

Kingdom and Disney's Animal

5:17

Kingdom last. Oh, I know. I

5:21

know. People don't like him and

5:21

I put Animal Kingdom last but

5:24

it's just not something that I'm

5:24

really that into the animal? Do

5:28

you consider yourself an Epcot

5:28

purist one of those kind of

5:31

guys? Definitely not. But I

5:31

don't like what they're doing

5:33

with the park in general. I,

5:33

what annoys me so much about the

5:37

court decisions that moment is

5:37

it's wasteful of money,

5:41

basically, and time and ripping

5:41

down perfectly good buildings,

5:45

but wouldn't didn't need to be

5:45

ripped down basically. And,

5:50

yeah, and the lack of symmetry

5:50

in the park and things like

5:53

that. It's just, it feels like

5:53

they're trying to rush to get

5:56

more IP parks than anything

5:56

else. And it's just not living

6:01

the best decisions. So

6:04

Alright, what's your favorite Disneyland or Disney ride just period and into

6:05

the parks

6:07

Pirates of the

6:07

Caribbean is always my favorite.

6:10

Which one? The one in Paris is

6:10

my all time favorite. And then

6:15

one in California. And then I

6:15

will put Walt Disney worlds last

6:19

because it's a lot shorter. And

6:19

yeah, it's just not the best

6:22

one.

6:24

I was reading that kind of coach book it was I have it over here the one of them

6:26

about building disney world and

6:28

they had Tony Baxter and they're

6:28

talking about the reason that

6:31

people aren't quite as enamored

6:31

with the Walt Disney World one

6:35

versus Disneyland just the idea

6:35

of you know, you're not going

6:37

down as much as you do in

6:37

Disneyland. It's not, you're

6:40

still so much closer to the

6:40

queue. You don't get pulled up.

6:42

I mean, did you notice that is

6:42

that kind of? I've never been to

6:44

Walt Disney World, just so you

6:44

know. You've never been to

6:46

Disneyland like 50 times, but I

6:46

listen, I'm going. I'm going in

6:51

April. Okay, days.

6:53

Okay, that's

6:53

fantastic. That's good. Long

6:55

last. But yeah, I was concerned

6:55

people weren't gonna like me,

7:01

but okay, for not going to Walt

7:01

Disney World. I'm a little bit

7:04

of a chicken. But seriously, no,

7:04

I think that you will have the

7:11

same opinion of pirates of the

7:11

caribbean when you go on it but

7:14

Spaceship Earth honorable

7:14

mentions or wants to charge you

7:17

like Spaceship Earth castle or

7:17

progress. And Haunted Mansion,

7:20

obviously are close when when

7:20

it's up behind my favorite

7:23

attraction of pirates of

7:23

Caribbean but one I could write

7:27

over and over and over again would be Pirates of the Caribbean.

7:30

Yeah, all right.

7:30

How about her favorite hotel?

7:32

parks?

7:33

resorts? Polynesians?

7:33

Probably my favorite Walt Disney

7:37

World and then Disney Disneyland

7:37

hotel is is okay. I've never

7:44

really stayed at these ones. I

7:44

stayed at paradise pier for

7:46

galaxy's edge to try and get

7:46

that reservation back in 2019.

7:50

So me and my girlfriend we

7:50

stayed at one of the cheaper

7:53

hotels nearby the less expensive

7:53

ones. And then we went and spent

7:57

one night at paradise pier just

7:57

to get that reservation and then

8:01

we move back to our hotel like

8:01

the we couldn't afford the full

8:08

amount so

8:09

no no yeah, that

8:09

gets expensive there. I'm saying

8:12

we're staying at the yacht club

8:12

when you go in April

8:14

right yeah well

8:14

that's that's that's also one of

8:17

my favorites near Epcot because

8:17

obviously it's right by next

8:21

door that got so it's fantastic. All right, this

8:23

isn't a question I put on there but April will go on April 5 am I gonna be able to

8:24

ride Ratatouille?

8:28

There's a good chance

8:28

there's a good chance maybe I

8:31

okay. I think we'll have an

8:31

opening date definitely by then

8:34

but with the opening date is

8:34

going to be April fifth. We

8:37

don't know yet. Well, I

8:39

see harmonious No,

8:40

you definitely won't

8:40

see harmonies you might see a

8:42

fountains you might see the new

8:42

daytime 1000s who knows all the

8:45

CM testing when the next month

8:48

are there and the

8:48

last one we got to do to really

8:51

did favorite Disney movie can be

8:51

any any of the negative theories

8:55

or whatever. It's Mary Poppins.

8:56

Mary Poppins is

8:56

always my favorite Disney movie.

8:59

Favorite animated movie Jungle

8:59

Book. Favorite Pixar movie.

9:04

Wally holds a special place in

9:04

my heart. I just love that

9:08

movie. And favorite Marvel movie

9:08

probably will be Guardians of

9:12

the Galaxy Volume 2.0 in Star

9:12

Wars obviously. Empire Strikes

9:19

Back.

9:20

Empire Okay, good.

9:20

Yeah, that's classic. Yeah,

9:23

dude, I'm Skyler the guy who

9:23

runs the Disney insider his

9:26

favorite Pixar is well Wally as

9:26

well.

9:28

Yeah. We bond over

9:28

love of Wally

9:32

is not universally

9:32

quite universally loved. It's

9:35

weird.

9:36

Well, what I love

9:36

about Wally is it does so much

9:38

with you know, these nonverbal

9:38

characters for the most part.

9:41

And that really, to me shows a

9:41

great sign of storytelling that

9:45

like they can carry this, this

9:45

real emotional punch with these

9:48

two not very animated

9:48

characters. You know, besides

9:52

Eva's, you know, LED screen you

9:52

have eyes and things like that.

9:57

It's not. It just carries it

9:57

because of the story. So strong

10:02

these two main characters fantastic.

10:04

I love it sounds

10:04

like you've had you've had a

10:07

support your decision before.

10:12

Like it's A Bug's

10:12

Life. People also allow you to

10:16

sleep on that one. And I really

10:16

like A Bug's Life. So yeah.

10:20

Okay, so that was

10:20

good. So now, so now we're gonna

10:22

get to the bread and butter kind

10:22

of the stuff that we both really

10:24

just live and breathe. The

10:24

Disney Parks experience and

10:27

products, we're really not gonna talk about products and experiences. We're not gonna

10:29

talk too much about the cruise

10:31

line or the live theater. Those

10:31

are just both right now just

10:35

shut down. And there's really no,

10:36

we can talk a little

10:36

bit. A little bit about

10:39

cruiseline eventually, but we'll

10:39

talk about the stuff that people

10:42

often want to hear about which

10:42

is Walt Disney Walt Disney and

10:45

all that sort of stuff first.

10:46

That was what Walt

10:46

Disney World Okay, so quickly,

10:52

let's just touch I know we've

10:52

already we don't talk about

10:54

COVID too much but just really

10:54

right now. Right now we've got

10:58

the two the two parks that are

10:58

still close or Disneyland Paris

11:00

and Disneyland in Anaheim. We

11:00

have Walt Disney World Shanghai,

11:04

Hong Kong and Tokyo are open

11:04

what how do you think the

11:09

opening has been going from an

11:09

outside perspective?

11:12

So from my

11:12

perspective, I think Disney have

11:14

done a remarkable job of

11:14

operating during a pandemic I

11:17

think it was an impossible task

11:17

to to reopen the parks I think

11:21

they've done it extremely safely

11:21

I think they've been very

11:25

diligent with the mass policy

11:25

and being like a no zero

11:29

tolerance kind of approach to it

11:29

like you know if you if you

11:33

don't wear your mask you out apart that's it and you can actually be banned for life. So

11:34

either comply with rules. It's

11:37

quite the proxy or don't we're

11:37

not messing about we have enough

11:41

people down here. indoor spaces

11:41

we're not messing about so I I

11:45

couldn't remember that. Now, I

11:45

dismount passes remain shot at

11:52

the moment. That's reopening in

11:52

April. And obviously,

11:57

Disneyland's reopening is right

11:57

around the corner, we should be

12:00

probably getting a date for that

12:00

fairly soon. I reckon I can

12:06

design will definitely be open

12:06

by its anniversary in July. It

12:11

will definitely be broken by

12:11

them. And I'm not bringing on

12:14

any sort of like Voodoo curse to

12:14

Disney. Guys. I'm not the theme

12:21

park Gods against Disneyland. It

12:21

will it will be open by summer

12:26

current rate of vaccinations and

12:26

stuff like that. Newsome won't

12:29

be able to keep it close for much longer. I mean, we're already seeing what they're

12:31

doing with DCA during March, and

12:34

things like that. But yeah, I

12:34

think that overall, the park

12:38

capacity and things like that.

12:38

It's fairly safe. It's it's Yep,

12:43

as safe as but here's the thing.

12:43

I can't say it's completely

12:47

safe. Number one, I haven't been

12:47

there. Number two, it's

12:50

anecdotal from people who are

12:50

friends and family and people

12:53

who have been out there and and

12:53

been to parks. But also, it's

12:58

everyone's got their own

12:58

different safety level. And

13:00

comfort level. Yeah, some people

13:00

who don't want to wear a mask. I

13:05

would disagree with not wearing

13:05

a mask right now. But those who

13:08

don't want to wear a mask may

13:08

not want to go Disney until that

13:12

mask policy is gone. And in

13:12

which case, I think you'll be

13:15

looking at 2020 Yeah, I think I

13:15

reckon the mass policy will be

13:20

lifted around, probably around

13:20

Spring Break time. 2022 just

13:25

after that, once we get the

13:25

paragraph once we get past the

13:28

next winter with with

13:28

vaccinations and COVID and all

13:33

the other stuff once we can get

13:33

past them and we've got to one

13:35

winter where people actually

13:35

been vaccinated, and we can see

13:38

what COVID does during a

13:38

traditional winter period with

13:41

surge and all the other stuff

13:41

and with vaccinations, then

13:44

Disney will be like okay, right

13:44

summer, we always know dips in

13:47

the summer anyway, it's an

13:47

influenza. Yep. So yeah.

13:51

Yeah, no, I agree.

13:51

And I think I will warn my

13:54

fiance and I are going in April

13:54

we got we actually got our

13:56

vaccines. Yeah. So that's the

13:56

only reason we're going you

14:00

know, I got it. My dad's got

14:00

major lung cancer issues and I

14:06

was primary caretakers so just

14:06

worried it just worked with with

14:08

were you getting the treatment

14:08

so that's one of the only we

14:11

would not have gone if we can,

14:11

that's just how we are and yeah,

14:16

and I'll get my second one about

14:16

two weeks. So we'll be at Well,

14:20

we'll get them both before you go there. So

14:21

isogenic Pfizer,

14:22

Pfizer Yeah, I got

14:22

we've all got Pfizer and just

14:26

when we're recording this now

14:26

just so you know, this is the

14:28

weekend the Johnson and Johnson

14:28

just got approved essentially

14:30

approved it got it got

14:30

recommended by the by the group

14:33

by the by the FDA, whatever

14:33

commission yesterday right now

14:37

they're being I think maybe by the time we're done recording this, we're going to get news

14:38

that it's getting actually

14:41

delivered. So we'll find out is

14:41

it is it getting shot out there

14:45

in the UK, Johnson and Johnson how they approved it.

14:47

We've got a lot of vaccines in the UK, we've got McDermott Pfizer, AstraZeneca is

14:49

the big one, the big one that we

14:52

got most of I think we've got

14:52

Novavax as well, which another

14:56

one and we've got another French

14:56

one which we've actually managed

14:59

to fund more than French government, which means that we get more vaccine, I don't know,

15:01

it's very organized. Yeah, but

15:04

the thing is, yeah, the strains

15:04

are always going to evolve this

15:08

COVID is going to be what the

15:08

word COVID, and the actual, you

15:11

know, in the lexicon and and in

15:11

the news cycle, you're going to

15:15

be hearing about COVID for the

15:15

next 10 years easily, because

15:19

this thing is many people, only

15:19

the pennies starting to drop,

15:22

this thing is gonna become an

15:22

endemic, pandemic, endemic, it's

15:26

gonna become like measles, and

15:26

every, every traditional flu

15:29

cycle, whatever, we're gonna

15:29

have COVID instead of COVID is

15:32

going to fill that gap. And

15:32

because we're not going to get,

15:35

I don't know, in America, if

15:35

you'll get to 60% of people

15:37

taking the vaccine, I wish you

15:37

would, but I don't know if

15:40

you'll get to that point. But so

15:40

it's going to, it's going to ebb

15:44

and flow throughout the years,

15:44

and it's going to be around for

15:46

next, you know, 10 years or so.

15:46

And we're probably gonna need

15:50

yearly booster jobs much like

15:50

flu jab and things like that.

15:53

But there is hope on the horizon

15:53

from the standpoint of vaccine

15:58

technology is now not just

15:58

targeting the spike cell with

16:01

the spike protein on the cell.

16:01

But we're actually targeting the

16:05

actual, the actual cell itself,

16:05

you know, the, the scent the

16:09

core of the cell, and we can

16:09

actually attack the protein

16:12

there. So by doing that, we

16:12

might be able to knock out

16:16

COVID, completely when we get to

16:16

that level of job at the moment,

16:20

we're only just targeting

16:20

certain strains. So

16:25

yeah, we're gonna

16:25

be in every aspect of our life

16:27

dealing with this, and which means the parks are gonna be dealing with this

16:30

forever, because I

16:30

think there will come a point

16:33

next year, Disney will be late

16:33

night, and they'll make a big

16:37

deal. Yeah, they'll they'll do a

16:37

second anniversary campaign

16:41

around it.

16:42

I always like when

16:42

they say, What's his name? When

16:46

they just talk about when you

16:46

when they're like, oh, when they

16:48

say Look, when they're filming.

16:48

pieces for like galaxies,

16:53

Guardians of the Galaxy cosmic,

16:53

or the P, the actors that are in

16:56

the promotional pieces, they're recording, are they wearing masks or not. And it gives you

16:58

an idea when they're going to release it. Because they plan on

17:00

releasing the next year and a

17:02

half, they're probably they're

17:02

probably gonna have masks, at

17:05

least some of them and then if

17:05

they have no math, well, all of

17:07

a sudden, they were not waiting for it.

17:08

I noticed. I noticed

17:08

something weird over over

17:11

Christmas, Disney report on

17:11

their Disney Springs add them.

17:15

And it's one they shot in 2019.

17:15

And I remember seeing it at the

17:19

beginning of 2020, obviously,

17:19

before it happened. And so they

17:23

stylistically shot at around

17:23

Disney Springs, you know, hey,

17:27

spend your night at Disney Springs, that kind of thing. And, and they re released it at

17:29

the beginning of 2021. And the

17:35

exact same other and they've

17:35

digitally superimposed masks on

17:39

to every single person in the

17:39

ABA. And we've even spaced out

17:43

the tables digitally. And as

17:43

soon as I put out a tweet of

17:47

Disney digital trickery here,

17:47

you know, this kind of thing,

17:51

but like, so. I think they might

17:51

shoot adverts without the masks

17:55

and be smart. Just shoot it both

17:55

ways. When at the moment. Yeah,

17:59

yeah,

18:00

yep. But I think they're doing that with the cruise ships. I think I saw

18:01

somewhere that they were filming

18:04

them with ball. So let's talk

18:04

about what's coming up for these

18:07

parks. Let's first talk about I

18:07

kind of broke it up into short

18:10

term projects you're looking at

18:10

between 1000 to

18:15

2001 to 2005

18:17

was what was coming

18:17

out. Oh dcaa was coming.

18:20

He had mission space

18:20

in between that it was hardly

18:22

anything happening in that period.

18:25

All right, so 2021

18:25

to 2025 we got some stuff we

18:29

got. Everyone knows this year

18:29

Mickey's 50th. Magic Kingdom

18:33

50th. Yeah. Walt Disney World.

18:33

We got a lot going on. You're

18:36

gonna be busy soon. Well,

18:40

I think I'll be busy.

18:40

Man. That's the thing, I would

18:43

have been a lot busier if it

18:43

wasn't for the pandemic with the

18:45

50. Because a lot of what they

18:45

had planned for the 50th.

18:49

They've kind of benched it a

18:49

little bit further back. And the

18:53

50th anniversary of Walt Disney

18:53

World, which will be a big

18:55

resort wide celebration. It's

18:55

not Yes, obviously Magic Kingdom

18:58

will be the center center focus.

18:58

But obviously, we're going to

19:01

see this span to every single

19:01

Park. And little little things

19:06

will be happening every single parking, it'd be a resort wide celebration. But the thing is,

19:08

it begins October 1, which is

19:13

the anniversary date of the

19:13

Magic Kingdom. And as I've said

19:19

in previous videos, it was

19:19

traditionally Disney usually

19:23

begin their celebrations before

19:23

the anniversary date. And then

19:26

they have their anniversary date

19:26

joined with the celebration.

19:29

This time it begins October 1

19:29

and it will be running for 18

19:32

months afterwards, which takes

19:32

us to march of 2023. Now the

19:38

thing in 2023. We've got big

19:38

date in 2023. And that's October

19:44

16 2023 is a date that many

19:44

companies don't even get to and

19:50

that's the 100th anniversary of

19:50

the Walt Disney Company. And we

19:55

already know via d 23 Expo being

19:55

pushed back to September. 2022 a

20:01

lot of data, guys, but we

20:01

already know because it's been

20:04

pushed back to September 2022,

20:04

they are going to be announcing

20:07

a lot of stuff for that 100 100

20:07

year anniversary celebration of

20:12

a Walt Disney Company. And

20:12

that's going to involve the

20:14

parks a lot. So the stuff that

20:14

has somewhat being benched back

20:19

a little bit from what Disney

20:19

wants 50 will be benched back

20:23

into 2023 for the 100th

20:23

anniversary of the Walt Disney

20:27

Company. So if we don't get it,

20:27

yeah, go ahead. No, no. So

20:32

wait on. So I know

20:32

that so the 18 months wasn't

20:35

wasn't a surprise. For the

20:35

length of celebration for Magic

20:39

Kingdom. That wasn't a surprise.

20:39

They always like to drive the

20:42

stuff out. 15th is a huge one,

20:42

too. So the biggest not the

20:45

surprise, but the biggest change

20:45

was that they moved it starting

20:47

on the actual day of the

20:47

anniversary going forward, then

20:50

that's going to bleed into

20:50

Epcot. 40th. Yeah. And that's

20:54

gonna bleed into the 100th

20:54

anniversary. So they're gonna

20:57

have

20:57

there'll be like a

20:57

six month period between the end

20:59

of the 50th and the beginning of

20:59

100. Formerly,

21:02

I mean, that they'll be celebrate the 40th during that year, right?

21:05

Yeah. Yeah. And so

21:05

the things that we got, it's

21:09

very complicated, much I try to

21:09

explain as best I can, I'm

21:12

trying to, I started mentioning

21:12

the 100th anniversary of Walt

21:18

Disney Company back in 2019 2023

21:18

event because I was like, this

21:23

is a big deal. And Disney know

21:23

how big that date that milestone

21:27

anniversary is. And it turns

21:27

them truly into a heritage

21:32

brand. It turns them into a you

21:32

know, a Coca Cola level company.

21:36

Yeah, they already are that

21:36

level. But you know, I mean,

21:38

it's, they've got that longevity

21:38

there. And 100 years is massive,

21:43

and you're gonna see some big

21:43

things from Disney, and they're

21:45

planning some big stuff. Now,

21:45

what I would like to see is

21:49

different to what others would

21:49

like to see, I would love to see

21:53

something that celebrates the

21:53

history of a company a bit more,

21:55

because I'm a big history.

21:55

fanatic of Disney not going

21:59

away. But you know what, we'll

21:59

see what they got. I just, I

22:03

just don't want to see I don't

22:03

know, an anniversary cupcake for

22:06

the fun of this one. Anyway, um,

22:06

yeah.

22:10

So speaking of 15th

22:10

we got some big announcements

22:13

over the last couple weeks about

22:13

what they're gonna do. You've

22:16

covered it extensively on your

22:16

on your channel. So people if

22:19

you really want to see everything they're doing see the new colors, see the new outfits,

22:21

see the how the decorating the

22:23

four icons, go look at dsny

22:23

newscasts on YouTube. What I

22:29

mean, none of this was really a

22:29

surprise, right? I mean, people

22:31

who stay like you who are who

22:31

are who ingratiate themselves

22:34

into this stuff every day. You

22:34

kind of saw most of this right?

22:38

And yeah, most of it

22:38

is, you know, easy. I mean, I'd

22:41

go half the script for that 50th

22:41

anniversary video. The big

22:45

announcement, actually, before

22:45

we even got the news. Because

22:49

because it was also you know,

22:49

Bible books and pretty easy to

22:53

predict if you've been following

22:53

it for long enough. But, and

22:57

I've liked much the same way of

22:57

Rumi's Ratatouille adventure,

23:00

which is opening scene like I

23:00

have, I feel almost wiped my

23:03

review of the area before it

23:03

even opens. Because I've written

23:06

I've been on the lighting in

23:06

disempowers enough time so I can

23:09

give a review of the light. As

23:09

long as it's the same line.

23:14

Which will be it's a clone. And

23:14

Tron and things like that. But

23:19

so in the immediate future, we

23:19

got Emmys Ratatouille, adventure

23:22

opening at Epcot. And yeah, it's

23:22

pretty much a finished

23:27

attraction. It's it seems like

23:27

Justin just they're ready to

23:32

start opening this thing up. But

23:32

as I've tried explaining on this

23:35

morning's cast, it's so much

23:35

more than just Hey, guys, it's

23:39

open, it's ready, let's open it

23:39

up. It's a PR optics nightmare,

23:44

in many ways, because

23:44

traditionally, Disney would love

23:47

to promote the hell out of this

23:47

thing. Like they would love to

23:51

market it to the moon, you know,

23:51

this thing would be huge,

23:54

especially after a bad year

23:54

they've had last year. But right

23:58

now, the vaccines aren't quite

23:58

at the point where they they

24:01

should be yet. And they're kind

24:01

of in this pause point where

24:06

they need to open something net

24:06

got to pull people in for the

24:10

Flower and Garden Festival

24:10

locally. Employment, more

24:14

domestic travelers,

24:14

international travel still isn't

24:17

allowed yet. They're just very

24:17

much in this kind of whole

24:20

pattern. And if they open it too

24:20

soon, or they try and market it

24:24

too big, then they will look

24:24

irresponsible for marketing a

24:28

big ride opening in the middle

24:28

of a pandemic. And that's reason

24:32

why we're seeing things like the

24:32

velocity coaster in Universal

24:35

Studios being very cagey with

24:35

what date they're going to get

24:39

for that opening. They keep

24:39

saying summer 2021. They can

24:43

give an opening period and much

24:43

like we're getting, you know,

24:46

2021 openings when we start to

24:46

venture, but they don't want to

24:50

be specific. And so what I

24:50

predict is, we're going to get a

24:54

very short window between

24:54

announcement of the opening and

24:58

opening okay. Which goes against

24:58

traditional marketing logic,

25:03

because you want to allow people

25:03

time to book to go and visit,

25:06

don't you. But if Disney are

25:06

wanting to stop a lot of the bad

25:10

press or being like, Hey, we're

25:10

running a six week advertising

25:14

campaign to get people to come

25:14

to our hearts, then it makes

25:17

more sense to just be like, Hey

25:17

guys, which I think March 9,

25:21

we'll probably get a opening

25:21

date at the shareholders

25:24

meeting, the annual shareholders

25:24

meeting. So they often announce

25:27

attractions on that date on the

25:27

annual shareholders meeting. And

25:30

then I think it may be as soon

25:30

as like, hey, and this is

25:33

opening in two weeks, or

25:33

whatever. You know, it might be

25:37

as soon as that might be like,

25:37

April 3, you know, it might be

25:41

three that I'll go on. That's

25:43

good for me.

25:44

But they they won't,

25:44

they won't give it a massive

25:47

Hey, this is gonna i don't i

25:47

don't think they'll say, hey,

25:50

it's opening Memorial Day.

25:50

Unless they really think that

25:55

vaccinations and they will look

25:55

as irresponsible to be marketing

25:58

it for Memorial Day. Because

25:58

believe me, no, I agree with

26:02

him. Yeah, so it's just a model. So

26:04

the delay on this

26:04

or the delay on rameez would be

26:08

more like you just said about

26:08

the marketing about the safety

26:11

and about the optics of opening

26:11

it versus things like Tron

26:14

lightcycle, and Guardians of the

26:14

Galaxy cosmic rewind, where

26:16

they've slowed construction to

26:16

spread out the costs, because

26:20

they're cutting back on some of

26:20

the capital. This is done,

26:23

this is done, and

26:23

Disney have just been sat

26:25

waiting around with this thing.

26:25

And it would also explain the

26:29

reason why we didn't see I mean,

26:29

this thing, they can vote if

26:31

they wanted to open it last year, they could have really like pushed and opened it last

26:33

year if they wanted to, like if

26:36

they really wanted to open it

26:36

last before Christmas, they

26:39

could. But like, it's wasting I

26:39

mean, they were already stung in

26:44

a way with humanism and overlay,

26:44

which opened on March 4 2020.

26:50

You know, literally two weeks

26:50

before the world, you know,

26:54

collapsed under the pressure of

26:54

COVID. And everything shut down.

26:57

You know, Disney had just opened

26:57

Mickey's very first ride through

27:01

attraction, which is a big deal

27:01

for that company in general. And

27:05

it's a great attraction and

27:05

being on the air, but I from

27:08

what I can see, and from what

27:08

I've heard from friends, it's a

27:11

great attraction. But yeah,

27:11

they've been they've been stung

27:14

by that once. And they've only

27:14

realistically got Rumi's

27:18

Ratatouille adventure to open

27:18

this year along with harmonious

27:22

which is a nighttime show to

27:22

market in a big way for the

27:26

summer of 2021.

27:29

I was thinking the

27:29

same thing. It's not as big but

27:31

with magic happens parade and

27:31

Disneyland. You know, they've

27:34

been talking about that for two

27:34

years. And they're just like,

27:40

yeah, I had like three weeks.

27:40

And then I was like, granted, we

27:43

have people dying people,

27:43

probably sick from that. But but

27:47

but you know, it's something we

27:47

love. And I'm just like, oh,

27:49

that sucks. So bad people. But

27:49

if you

27:51

take away the if you

27:51

strip away the list of the

27:53

pandemic, which we're not trying

27:53

to talk about, you know, the

27:57

greater scope of the pandemic,

27:57

because you know, we're not

27:59

news, people who talk about

27:59

that. But if you talk about

28:02

Disney from just a business

28:02

perspective, it's a blow to the

28:06

business, if we're looking at it

28:06

from just a pure business

28:08

perspective, it was it was not a

28:08

very good position to be in. And

28:12

that's what they're trying to

28:12

avoid right now is trying to

28:16

understand, hey, we could open

28:16

it and get the locals interested

28:19

coming back to get caught and

28:19

boost local attendance and maybe

28:22

a bit of domestic attendance.

28:22

But then let's save our big

28:27

marketing campaign, our big

28:27

marketing spend for when we know

28:32

we can really market the hell

28:32

out of this thing.

28:36

Well, the thing we're about a crowd though, even if they do open it when it's

28:37

still like 35% capacity, it's so

28:41

big that capacity is is really

28:41

not really an issue at Epcot.

28:44

Right?

28:44

I mean, the attraction is the thing that's got the capacity concern. Yeah,

28:46

yeah.

28:49

But I'm just saying

28:49

like, it can hold a lot of

28:51

people can Epcot in turn, yeah.

28:53

And can hold about

28:53

10,000 people. Okay. So if you

28:58

look at a this is rough. We

28:58

don't actually have the proper

29:02

numbers because Disney releases

29:02

Sure, like approximation, Epcot,

29:05

210,000. I think Disney's Animal

29:05

Kingdom and Disney's Hollywood

29:10

Studios about 60,000. And that's

29:10

full capacity. And Magic Kingdom

29:16

is around 80 to 90,000. I think

29:16

it's an 80. That's actually

29:20

might be a bit higher, but so

29:20

Epcot, so biggest Park, so when

29:24

Epcot if a parks are operating

29:24

at 35% of capacity, which we

29:27

supposedly are running at right

29:27

now. That Park is waiting around

29:32

40,000 people in the park, it's

29:32

realistically Yeah, which isn't

29:36

too far off what Disney's

29:36

Hollywood Studios Adak can whole

29:40

animal kingdom can hold on the

29:40

busiest day of the holiday

29:44

period. You know, I mean, it's

29:44

not too far off. It's a very, so

29:49

you can easily have a capacity

29:49

but it's the light itself and

29:52

then you put

29:53

40,000 people in

29:53

the French Pavilion. Yeah. And

29:57

it's a courtyard.

29:57

It's a dead end and Then you

30:00

also have the other dilemma

30:00

which and we've spoken about too

30:03

much but so that means that is a

30:03

clone of the live from 2014 in

30:10

Disneyland Paris. Now that guy

30:10

Yes. itself so if you very quick

30:16

discussion of trackless ride

30:16

technology, so Disney had Mystic

30:20

Manor in Hong Kong Disneyland.

30:20

That was their kind of first big

30:24

tracklist slide of this new

30:24

technology, new LPs technology.

30:28

Then you have Ratatouille, the

30:28

adventure in disempowers. The

30:32

trope in 2014. Now that built

30:32

off the Mystic Manor technology.

30:36

Yeah. But then there's a big gap

30:36

between that advisor resistance

30:40

and me and me humans, which are

30:40

both track Whoa, whoa,

30:45

whoa luigis

30:45

rollicking Roadsters

30:49

in 2013. That went through the amount of

30:52

issues that went through because

30:56

I think they actually had an

30:56

issue with I think it was the

31:01

issue of that from what I read.

31:01

And what I heard at the time, is

31:04

that it was a specific type of

31:04

LPs or trackless wind technology

31:09

that was licensed out or to a

31:09

certain vendor to build within

31:13

Disney, you know, Disney

31:13

California venture. And then

31:17

they had disagreements of that.

31:17

And that's kind of what led to

31:20

the delay with rise of resistance because they had their own technology. And it was

31:22

this whole kind of like, big

31:24

thing about that, but Okay, so

31:24

basically, Ratatouille is like

31:29

alive in 2014 to hold 2014

31:29

capacity, and it's it's 2014

31:35

trackless ride tech. And it's a

31:35

trackless ride that was very

31:38

good in 2014. But if you put

31:38

that right after the rise of

31:42

resistance, and Mickey minis

31:42

runaway Railway, I don't know

31:46

how it's gonna play.

31:48

We another it's a

31:48

clone, but they literally using

31:51

the exact same technology to

31:52

the exact same. I

31:52

mean, we might be slightly

31:55

tweaked technology wise, but

31:55

it's slide, right layout, exact

32:00

same scenes, we've had it

32:00

confirmed now that it's going to

32:03

be bilingual. So it's going to

32:03

be using French and English

32:06

dialogue on the on the line,

32:06

because obviously, that's how it

32:09

isn't, isn't Paris, it's a

32:09

complete lift. From this house,

32:13

the only thing that's different

32:13

is the exit doesn't have the

32:17

restaurant, which is Chef for

32:17

me,

32:21

which is where's

32:21

the restaurant in France

32:23

pavilion gonna be it's just

32:23

gonna get crowded, the queue was

32:27

just separate.

32:27

It's not part of a

32:27

queue. It's separate. But it's a

32:30

it's a crate. And it will be

32:30

operated by a third party. So

32:34

but it'll be a creepy, it has

32:34

slight, small, very small indoor

32:37

section, but it's really a

32:37

creepy window. And there was

32:41

like a last minute addition to

32:41

the, to the pavilion to the

32:44

expansion. It was like, it

32:44

wasn't even in the original

32:46

plans. When, in 2017, when we

32:46

were discussing, like the water

32:51

management. So when things get

32:51

announced, like we get like a

32:55

Water Management District, they

32:55

release like permits and things

32:59

like that. So we get to get the

32:59

layout of the expansion a little

33:02

bit early. And it wasn't even

33:02

part of that plan. So that's how

33:06

late edition it was. So it was

33:06

before the ride punter.

33:11

They do that. Well,

33:11

we get the creperie before the

33:13

ride. I they really they're like

33:13

if, if they go you know what

33:16

we're gonna wait till mid

33:16

summer, where we won't look like

33:20

irresponsible jerks by doing

33:20

this. But let's open something

33:24

because people are itching.

33:24

Could they open the drapery

33:26

before the right they could easily

33:27

open it before the

33:27

night but like you say, yeah, I

33:31

think they would, because it's

33:31

money. I mean, it's easy

33:34

revenues made. But the fact that

33:34

they didn't when they pushed the

33:38

walls back to open up the

33:38

restrooms, and this is very

33:40

technical when they push walls

33:40

back to open up restrooms in the

33:43

plant expansion. The fact that

33:43

they didn't push those back far

33:47

enough to open up the Creamery

33:47

says to me that they're gonna

33:50

open up creperie and move it at

33:50

the same time. Unless on the

33:55

annual shareholders meeting, if

33:55

they announce a very late

33:58

opening date for the light, I

33:58

could see them then then opening

34:01

up the creek. We sooner

34:02

we talked about rameez I know it's an Epcot ride. But in 15th, we will see

34:04

in the 18 months, we will see

34:09

Tron lightcycle open right.

34:10

So yeah, tron is

34:10

aiming at early 2022. I still

34:15

think there's a possibility that

34:15

December 2021, it could open

34:18

depending on how quickly the

34:18

parts bounce back, vaccination,

34:22

things like that. Basically, the

34:22

inside of the building has been

34:26

paused for now. But it's not a

34:26

very complex installation of

34:32

show set elements inside. It's

34:32

not like you know, Guardians of

34:35

the Galaxy. I think it's pretty

34:35

simple. The shows that he wants

34:39

me to install, so they could

34:39

probably get that done pretty

34:42

quickly. And I think maybe we

34:42

could we could even see that in

34:45

December like rise of resistance

34:45

opened in 2020 in 2019. In

34:50

December, I think we could see a

34:50

December opening of 2021 of

34:53

Tron, but if not, I would say

34:53

march for spring break

34:59

Um Do you See it?

34:59

Is it is I know it's I know it's

35:03

it was done in Shanghai

35:03

Disneyland. Is it like a rameez?

35:06

Where it's an exact clone?

35:07

It's an exact clone.

35:07

Exact clone. Yeah, there's not

35:12

much more to be said. So

35:13

and I heard you talking in different podcasts because I was doing a little bit

35:15

of research about this is back

35:17

in the day, but you were saying

35:17

something about? Is this gonna

35:21

challenge Space Mountain? Or do

35:21

you think they can coexist,

35:25

I personally feel

35:25

that once this opens, I feel

35:29

like Space Mountain is gonna

35:29

look pretty tame next to it.

35:34

Because this is a you know, it's

35:34

a unique line vehicle, you sat

35:37

in a motorbike kind of style for

35:37

zero to 60 in one of the fastest

35:42

launches that they've ever done.

35:42

And it's a very short line, it's

35:46

only like, 90 seconds to not

35:46

even a minute, it's same sort of

35:50

length as blocking all coaster,

35:50

but it's gonna look very

35:54

different to Space Mountain.

35:54

Now, Space Mountain, I love but

35:58

I do feel like in the next

35:58

couple of years, we'll probably

36:01

get some sort of announcement

36:01

from Disney being like, Hey,

36:03

guys, we're going to inject x IP

36:03

into Space Mountain. Because how

36:10

do you how do you right now how

36:10

do you have Space Mountain sit

36:13

next is Tron like, when it won't

36:13

be won't be immediate. You know,

36:18

we'll still see Spaceman for a

36:18

while but the current Disney

36:21

regime will see Space Mountain

36:21

thing what this ride needs to

36:26

get more people in it is an IP.

36:26

And I don't Well, you know,

36:30

they're

36:30

making a Space Mountain movie right?

36:32

Yeah, they

36:34

they are that Schuyler said it's in print. It's in pre production right

36:36

now. So

36:40

Thunder Mountain I

36:40

heard something about no Yeah,

36:42

no, no

36:43

Space Mountain. So

36:43

we'll see maybe this may be

36:45

their this and the reason they

36:45

have is probably because of

36:47

this. So they realize either we're gonna have to

36:50

tip for Space

36:50

Mountain. Or you do need to do

36:54

is stick a couple of Wally and

36:54

Eve either, you know, statues in

37:01

the middle of Space Mountain,

37:01

like them in different areas and

37:04

stuff like and you could be you

37:04

could be doing the dance and

37:06

space of Wally and Eve like,

37:06

it's a very easy thing to do,

37:10

like, set the whole space

37:10

station theme to be an owl and

37:14

you're on the you're on the BNL

37:14

space station and stuff like

37:18

it's very easy to do. I think it'd be very cool.

37:20

But so we're

37:20

thinking Tron lightcycle run

37:22

ended this year, early next

37:22

year. I mean, we know it's it's

37:26

pretty far along construction.

37:26

It'll be one of those ones that

37:29

like velocity coaster. We'll see

37:29

him though when they're testing

37:31

it will be. Yeah, that'll give

37:31

us an idea as they come into the

37:36

14th. We are we are talking

37:36

about rameez 14th of Epcot.

37:39

Which again blends in

37:40

I think guardians are

37:40

going to be open before the

37:43

fourth year in 2020. So fourth

37:43

year for that car is October

37:46

1 2022. I think gardens galaxy

37:46

cosmic rewind will probably open

37:53

just before that summer maybe

37:53

September ish, but it will open

37:58

in 2020 that sort of time.

37:58

They're aiming for that to be

38:03

definitely part of the 50th

38:03

anniversary and also Hey, it's

38:06

also part 40 as well so they can

38:06

get double marketing bang for

38:10

their buck there.

38:12

Now they Remi is

38:12

Tron guardians I think I know

38:15

your answer. What are the three are you most excited for?

38:17

guardians for galaxy

38:19

era? Because this

38:19

is a brand new ride? Yes.

38:21

Yeah, I know some big time.

38:25

Yeah, and they're doing the filming too. Right. They're filming during Thor love

38:26

and thunder. They have the same

38:29

characters down there so they're gonna get the filming.

38:31

Yeah, I love the media stuff for the ride.

38:33

Okay, so we have harmonious that was a big news day today just so again, as you

38:35

guys know, we're filming we're recording this on the 27th This

38:37

is the day we saw the big What

38:41

do they call like circles O

38:41

ring? Yeah, people have

38:44

turned to it as for

38:44

Stargate or whatever. Sure.

38:48

Yeah, portal, whatever. But it's

38:48

a six story tool, central ring

38:53

which will have a water mist

38:53

curtain bit like you know, blank

39:00

in that world of color a little

39:00

bit like that. And they

39:04

obviously reason why that one

39:04

needs to be a water mist

39:07

projection is because six

39:07

storeys tall winds across world

39:11

showcase lagoon will be a pretty

39:11

big nightmare. So they're doing

39:14

waterless projection instead,

39:14

but then the other ones for

39:17

other barges which are 25 feet

39:17

tall and they are anchored in

39:21

the middle of world showcase

39:21

lagoon as well along with the

39:23

central wing and there'll be

39:23

there all day every day with a

39:27

fountain show in the daytime and

39:27

then at nighttime it will come

39:31

to life for what Disney are

39:31

calling the greatest or biggest

39:34

nighttime spectacular ever begin

39:34

the controversy begin the

39:40

controversial opinions because

39:40

yeah well

39:48

I don't know well,

39:48

no I do today. I do today. I was

39:51

always behind Disney going you

39:51

know what, there's a bigger kind

39:54

of one of those things right? There's a bigger story here. We don't get it. Wait till we see

39:56

everything Hold tight. And then

39:59

we got this circular We got the

39:59

big circle out whatever you want

40:01

to call it, the big ring and

40:01

it's not centered. Again, we

40:05

talked about before recorded.

40:05

That's you and I chat. And I

40:07

think you think it's it's

40:07

anchored and it'll appear as it

40:10

is. So I'm starting to get less

40:10

and less confident that maybe

40:14

there is a bigger thing here.

40:14

Maybe it is just going to be a

40:16

bunch of metal out there even

40:16

with I do want to wait till we

40:20

see. But I couldn't imagine

40:20

there being enough of a water

40:23

feature during the day for it to

40:23

make up for the Yeah, I saw.

40:29

What do you think it was in Epcot.

40:31

So fan, my concern

40:31

isn't the nighttime portion?

40:35

Because I think the actual show

40:35

itself, yeah, you can have, I'd

40:37

really love to lunations

40:37

reflections versus soft spot in

40:40

my heart for all that sort of

40:40

stuff. It was there that we

40:42

watched on a second date, me and

40:42

my girlfriend, you know, it's a

40:45

big part of my family holidays

40:45

and stuff like that. So I have a

40:48

soft spot for illuminations

40:48

reflections of but I do know

40:52

that Disney always needs to

40:52

evolve their nightly

40:54

spectaculars and stuff like

40:54

that. And obviously, IP isn't

40:57

necessarily a bad thing. But

40:57

where I've got an issue is the

41:01

daytime portion of this, the

41:01

fountains that are supposedly

41:04

going to be a cloaking device to

41:04

hide the great big, six storey

41:08

tall, 60 foot tall, 25 foot tall

41:08

barges in the middle of world

41:12

showcase Lagoon, I don't think

41:12

they're going to operate nearly

41:16

as well as people think they can

41:16

operate. I think originally,

41:21

from what I heard, is that they

41:21

had plans to bring this thing

41:24

all the barges in and out every

41:24

night, okay. And much like that

41:28

was what they started when they

41:28

started planning it. Yeah. And

41:30

then when they worked out how

41:30

long they'd need to keep the

41:33

drawbridge up. At core

41:33

operations were like, We can't

41:37

do that. We can't keep the

41:37

drawbridge open up for like an

41:41

hour at a time to let you move

41:41

these barges in and out each

41:43

night.

41:45

So it wasn't a matter of them being so big. They could supply they thought

41:47

that

41:48

they will go through that, as you can see they've gone through. They've been

41:50

airlifted would they

41:52

be able would they break down? If they did that every day? Like would it be too

41:54

much of a

41:56

I think they're gonna

41:56

they're more risk of breaking

41:58

down with fountains running all day.

42:00

Yeah, that's a good point. Okay,

42:02

because so they're

42:02

stuck out there that stuck out

42:05

there. And I think eventually

42:05

the fountains are breaking them

42:07

and Disney was be like, we'll

42:07

just, we'll just run some sort

42:11

of, I don't know, some sort of

42:11

video on the screens instead.

42:17

And that'll be it. I'm not sure

42:17

what we're doing. Yeah. But at

42:21

the moment, people like, you

42:21

know, stay positive about about

42:24

the daytime found on the show.

42:24

And I'm like, well, you do know

42:27

how water works. Yeah, water is

42:27

transparent. And and what we've

42:32

got under there is greatly black

42:32

steel beams. And I don't think

42:36

that you'll truly be able to

42:36

hide great big black LED screens

42:40

as well. Underneath transparent

42:40

water, so

42:45

I'm not so you don't think this was the original plan.

42:48

This was it wasn't it

42:48

wasn't even a timeshare. It

42:50

wasn't God, it might have been

42:50

part of that plan to be like,

42:52

you know, when we when we move

42:52

them out at 5pm, we'll run a

42:56

daytime would have been a night,

42:56

like an evening fountain show

42:59

for an hour or two before the

42:59

nighttime spectacular starts.

43:02

But like it wasn't their plan to

43:02

run it from like 10am morning

43:05

till the nighttime show. Like,

43:05

and who knows if it will even

43:10

run all day like that, or

43:10

whether it will be in intervals

43:12

we don't know yet. Like, I just

43:12

feel like it's it's a problem

43:17

when it's guests complaints

43:17

waiting to happen, I think.

43:21

Yeah, no, listen, I

43:21

normally roll my eyes a little

43:23

bit at some of the Epcot purists

43:23

Who are you know, just cuz I'm

43:26

not one. So I'm kind of like

43:26

kouachi has calmed down, but I

43:28

was like, this came out today. I

43:28

don't sit down and shut up. All

43:33

right. Let's go. Okay. But

43:33

we're, yeah, isn't the whole

43:38

theme park in Nepal. So we're

43:38

hopeful that it's gonna, that

43:42

it's gonna we know, it's

43:42

probably going to be amazing at

43:44

night. Yeah, people are gonna

43:44

complain because it's different

43:46

music and IP, whatever, but we

43:46

think it's gonna be a great

43:49

show. During the day is where

43:49

everyone's a little nervous. So

43:53

play pavilion play No, about that play

43:55

pavilion won't open

43:55

until all masks I think play

43:59

pavilion will open very late. In

43:59

open open in 2022, when all math

44:04

restrictions are gone, because

44:04

this thing's gonna be a bloody

44:09

COVID nightmare, because it's

44:09

interactivity. It's designed as

44:14

like a playground for kids, and

44:14

let them get their, you know,

44:18

hands all over all the different

44:18

interactive screens and all the

44:21

other stuff and it's just a from

44:21

a COVID standpoint, it's a it's

44:25

a nightmare. So yeah, but things

44:25

don't open till mass policy

44:30

probably gone. I would say

44:30

spring 2022 at the earliest for

44:34

play pivoting earlier. So I

44:34

think they've purposely decided

44:38

to bench a lot of this stuff in that

44:39

as well. Like they haven't heard much about it. Actually, I do think it's gonna

44:41

be good. I mean, it needs to be

44:46

if you got small

44:46

kids, it will be good. But if

44:48

you've, if you've got kids above

44:48

the age of five, you probably

44:51

won't really walk in there saying,

44:54

Alright, we're on a

44:54

journey of water. It wouldn't

44:57

know about that.

44:57

That is a glorified

44:57

water. feature in the middle of

45:01

the park I No one's ever heard

45:01

have

45:03

that with Harmonix and

45:04

nobody's nobody's

45:04

really put more on a journey of

45:07

water in that category yet but

45:07

like, I hear everyone being like

45:10

marijuana, right and and it's a

45:10

mono attraction. It's like no

45:14

guys, let's see what it actually

45:14

is. It's a landscaping feature.

45:18

It's an interactive landscaping

45:18

feature like they'll be dancing

45:21

fountains, but the level of what

45:21

you would call you don't notice

45:25

the you know, into Epcot. But

45:25

the the journey into

45:30

imagination, we've got like some

45:30

jumping fountains over there. I

45:33

don't know. If you'd call that

45:33

an attraction you know, it's a

45:39

bit like that but but themes and

45:39

have a bit of music and a bit of

45:43

lights and stuff. But like it's

45:43

not an attraction it will be

45:47

classified as an attraction much

45:47

like the town square house, you

45:50

know, town square or firehouses

45:50

in Disneyland. But it's not

45:54

attraction.

45:55

But if Wait, if

45:55

they were if they list that

45:57

horribly boring spaceship versus

45:57

as an attractive, how would they

46:03

roll the cursor inside now? I'm joking.

46:06

Yeah, right. And

46:06

then ever ride through cuts it

46:09

out. So you can't see it. I

46:09

always tell the telling pair

46:11

myself when you see

46:12

first time is on a

46:12

ride. Like I remember being in

46:14

design powers and have a South

46:14

African couple in front of us

46:19

and we had a kid and and the kid

46:19

had never been on touto before

46:23

and my dad was stood there and

46:23

we told him that tower terror

46:26

was a roller coaster. And you

46:26

know, when you get in there, you

46:30

only have a seat and it's gonna

46:30

go to Yeah, no, it doesn't. Like

46:34

obviously it's it's a it's a

46:34

drop, isn't it? So it kept them

46:37

going. But I loved like messing

46:37

with PG tube.

46:40

Did you do mission breakout?

46:43

Yeah. Yeah.

46:45

Did you What did

46:45

that drop more does that more

46:47

drops that

46:48

has mold under drops.

46:48

Yeah, has more. It has a

46:51

different rock sequence, man.

46:51

But I've been on the towel

46:54

shower in disempowers as well.

46:54

And that had a big upgrade in

46:58

2019. And it's fantastic. It has

46:58

it's scarier. It's scarier than

47:03

the one in in, in Walt Disney

47:03

World. And I think it's bit of a

47:07

mission breakout. It was on that

47:07

line. At one point you actually

47:12

go up and you can you can hear

47:12

like a you see this little ghost

47:15

girl and things like that. It's

47:15

very horror esque. And you can

47:18

hear like, screams in the

47:18

chamber and it's but it's like,

47:22

one one's called, like the

47:22

malevolent machine and stuff

47:24

like that. It's very creepy.

47:24

It's much better than normal.

47:28

touto I'd say

47:30

wow, some fightin

47:30

words. Yeah. I like that. I like

47:34

the mission breakout cuz I think

47:34

Joe did a great job with that

47:37

with the theme and it didn't

47:37

feel like every theme. I felt

47:39

like it could have been designed

47:39

for that right

47:42

and like a year, which is good.

47:44

Okay, so next we

47:44

have this is the question. I

47:47

know. I've seen you cover the

47:47

Mary Poppins attraction more

47:50

than any other quotes. So okay,

47:50

we'll start with that. Are we

47:54

ever going to get something or is that just gone?

47:56

I think it's probably

47:56

missed its opportunity right now

47:59

because by the time they have to

47:59

come back down to payment on the

48:02

table, like the only reason why

48:02

it was on the table to begin

48:05

with is because Mary Poppins

48:05

returns and unless they do a

48:08

Mary Poppins, as well as if I

48:08

didn't do as well as he thought

48:10

and Mary Poppins returns to they

48:10

may do another may fall from SQL

48:14

in the future. But like what they did with like, Alice in Wonderland, they kept like

48:16

bleeding that one. But I don't

48:19

think and if Emily Blunt and Lin

48:19

Manuel willing to come back,

48:23

like they'll they'll do it. But

48:23

I can't see that attraction

48:27

happening now. I really hope

48:27

they I think they could have

48:31

renamed the existing area to

48:31

cherry tree lane, to be honest.

48:33

I mean, you could have just

48:33

stripped away a lot of the

48:35

outside of that building

48:35

already, you know, in the UK

48:38

pavilion and just turn that into

48:38

a mini cherry tree lane a little

48:41

bit. I don't know,

48:43

was it the rumor it was gonna be just be a carousel or something.

48:45

It was it was going to be what they called a flatline people. It's changed

48:47

around between people saying

48:50

there's going to be tea cups. I

48:50

don't think it was going to be

48:52

tea cups because tea cups and

48:52

tea gums. What I heard is it was

48:57

going to be a flat ride like a

48:57

carousel, but it was going to be

49:00

a carousel with projections on

49:00

both walls. So being enclosed

49:04

carousel indoors, a bit like the

49:04

Epcot experience Center has

49:08

those projections bit like that.

49:08

And so you will be on a carousel

49:12

in a animated world. Which would

49:12

have been kind of cool, but but

49:17

it would have been another ride

49:17

like a Dumbo ride for kids, but

49:23

it would have pulled in some

49:23

adults. And Epcot needs more

49:26

rides for children. It Yeah,

49:26

it's more fun there before the

49:30

rebellion

49:31

comes up.

49:32

The parents happy to

49:32

drink the kid happy to get drunk

49:37

and the kids don't have much to do so like

49:40

yeah, Spaceship

49:40

Earth will get him well the

49:43

remodel

49:43

remodel will happen

49:43

eventually. That will happen

49:46

eventually. I agree. It needs it

49:46

needs reefer. Right? It needs

49:49

refurbishment. That's what it

49:49

needs most. But it will get a

49:53

revamp eventually the new

49:53

storytelling or you know the

49:59

story it's gonna Focus on the

49:59

history of storytelling, which

50:03

could be a really interesting

50:06

festival Pavilion.

50:06

That's that's gone right?

50:09

It's hard to say this

50:09

because I, I felt like

50:13

interventions West could have

50:13

easily become a festival

50:15

Pavilion. If they'd have

50:15

stripped away that building, you

50:19

could have even like built, if

50:19

they reinforced the roof, you

50:22

could have even built the beer

50:22

garden on top of it if it needed

50:25

to. But instead, I think what

50:25

we're going to see in the short

50:29

term, our festival moves

50:29

throughout that world

50:34

celebration area. And then long

50:34

term we won't see some sort of

50:38

festival building built but

50:40

it will raise the

50:40

raise platform

50:43

it will most likely

50:43

have changed designs by then i

50:45

can i think you know as CSUN

50:45

staying in Imagineering for

50:50

longer they go through design

50:50

revisions, so I think that'll

50:53

probably look a bit different.

50:55

I think that the good thing the festival pavilion has on its side though is that

50:57

it is a moneymaker in terms of

51:00

like corporate events and so

51:00

like even more so than a ride

51:03

it's something that like the

51:03

people who are counting the you

51:05

know the coins

51:08

and you won't snatchy

51:08

like that is something that

51:10

we're gonna get the dream is

51:10

point and you won't statue will

51:12

we will get that and it's for

51:12

one where Walt's like sat on

51:17

some steps like Vanoss at the

51:17

end of the end of infinity war.

51:22

Oh yeah. Yeah, resting looking

51:22

over grateful universe. But I

51:29

feel that the festival pavilion

51:29

it will happen eventually. Just

51:33

for pure fact that che Peck if

51:33

he's still CEO in the next

51:37

couple of years who knows what

51:37

will happen but like you're

51:39

still CEO most likely happened

51:39

because it was a project that he

51:42

wanted to put his indelible

51:42

stamp on Epcot that was his

51:46

project about his like I want to

51:46

he wants to hit two projects at

51:50

cheap at cared most about we're

51:50

like galactic starcruiser and

51:53

putting in Star Wars hotel.

51:53

Yeah. And putting a new

51:56

structure in Epcot like that's

51:56

what he cared about.

52:00

I know Jim Hill was

52:00

talking about that you know he

52:02

heard from entertainment they

52:02

were just so stressed out

52:04

because they had so many people

52:04

lined up to use the corporate

52:10

corporate people lined up to use

52:10

the festival pavilion now they

52:12

got scramble and find something

52:14

well they using the

52:14

using the UK pavilion showplace

52:24

world showplace they're using

52:24

that for a lot of the festival

52:28

stuff at moment and to be

52:28

honest, that could just it's a

52:33

temporary kind of that was meant

52:33

to be you the reason why they're

52:36

using that moment is because they don't have any corporate events but world showplace is

52:38

used for corporate events.

52:42

So okay, so they

52:42

have a spot for

52:44

say hangout spot form if we need to.

52:47

All right, now

52:47

we'll get a move. You know,

52:49

we're our two which I'm fine

52:49

with but it's getting to about

52:51

11 o'clock over there. Because

52:51

you need to drink but um we have

52:56

the Disneyland Resort we're

52:56

gonna move over you know to

52:58

Disneyland you know, the one

52:58

park that Walt Disney actually

53:02

went to so the real Disney park

53:02

and then of course, the first

53:08

thing I've listed is not

53:08

actually in Disneyland. Event

53:10

just the big the big. Yeah, and

53:10

just campus over in Disney

53:14

California Adventure. Real

53:14

quick. Why Disney California

53:17

venture and why Disney's

53:17

Hollywood studio?

53:21

We don't know.

53:21

Seriously paper we don't. It's a

53:25

weird marked Avengers campus.

53:27

What do you what are we? What are we doing that one that looks done. I mean, I

53:28

got those pictures from the guy

53:31

who flew over he got

53:31

a fantastic aerial shot there.

53:33

It's pretty much done now. Like

53:33

there's just very light theme

53:36

that needs to be applied.

53:36

They're running tests and just

53:39

on on webslinger webslinger is a

53:39

spider man adventure, which is a

53:43

stupid name in my opinion. And

53:43

Worsley's. Not super named a

53:47

spider man adventure is a stupid

53:47

name. I've kind of like tried to

53:50

say a more subtle way in a

53:50

video, but it's a stupid name,

53:52

in my opinion.

53:53

He said it. I heard

53:53

it very clearly in the video are

53:56

not happening.

53:57

Will they delay the

53:57

opening you got here? So from

54:01

what can pop rock has said,

54:01

Who's the design president? He

54:06

has said that he's ready to go

54:06

when dismount, reopens? I don't

54:11

see them, reopening it

54:11

immediately. I don't think I

54:14

think they will leave it a

54:14

month, but I don't think it will

54:17

lag too far behind. Whenever

54:17

they Sophie open, let's say from

54:22

May Disneyland at reduced

54:22

capacity. By around July. I

54:26

reckon they'll be ready to open

54:26

Avengers campus, though, which

54:30

is when it was targeted for last

54:30

year. Like it was targeted for

54:32

July last year. So I think it'll

54:32

be roughly around the same sort

54:35

of time.

54:36

Okay, if so you don't have the same feeling that you do about Epcot with Ramiz

54:38

Ratatouille where they would

54:42

want to make a big splash with

54:42

it that they would wait until

54:44

they could be more at full capacity. The

54:46

thing is with the

54:46

Avengers campus is won't Disney

54:50

more need to play to a global

54:50

audience with their marketing.

54:55

discipline has played with a

54:55

local audience and locally if

54:58

they if local health Understand

54:58

that, hey, we got both under

55:01

control now. We've been vaccine

55:01

works like 60% vaccinations by

55:06

July. It won't be as much of a

55:06

marketing dilemma. It'll be

55:09

like, okay, we'll just open up

55:09

now and start marketing. Like,

55:12

it's a lot, a lot simpler to

55:12

think about, then the concern of

55:18

like, well, the travel ban still

55:18

be in place like, you know, you

55:20

don't even have to. I'm hoping

55:20

it won't, because I want to get

55:23

back to America. Yeah.

55:26

tough subject. All

55:26

right. Cool. So we think and

55:28

when webslinger besides the

55:28

horrible name, what do you think

55:32

is this gonna be just a toy

55:32

story midway mania?

55:35

No, really

55:35

freebooters. It's an interactive

55:38

ride, like Toy Story mania, but

55:38

it uses advanced gesture

55:43

recognition technology, which is

55:43

basically like Connect stuff

55:46

like that. But imagine, imagine,

55:46

for a force connects sensors, so

55:52

it's really, really accurate

55:52

pinpoint accuracy. And then it

55:56

maps the iconic, you know,

55:56

Spider Man web gesture, to know

56:02

when you want to fire, but also,

56:02

it's using 3d. And from what I

56:07

can tell it, so the digital web

56:07

will be projected 3d. So

56:12

therefore, it will feel like

56:12

you're shooting out the web into

56:14

into into a physical space or

56:14

into it into a screen, and it'll

56:19

be a mix between sitting in

56:19

front of screens and sitting in

56:23

front of a physical space, so

56:23

it's going to be a mix between

56:26

those two. So I've actually

56:26

looked at the right layout and

56:28

the right permit from

56:28

disempowers that has the same

56:31

exact lighting built out there

56:31

which will probably open in

56:34

2022. You can see where they say

56:34

show scene, one or no chosing

56:40

like for for a for B show scene

56:40

five shows in five a five B, and

56:45

like the five a five beer like

56:45

extra screen areas for you to

56:49

like sit in front of like a

56:49

screen like Toy Story mania, but

56:51

then the main show scene is like

56:51

a physical scene

56:56

that shows grandma

56:56

gonna be able to divide it Who

56:58

doesn't want to flick her wrist around

57:00

well if she or she

57:00

has arthritis and she can't

57:02

flick of us and yeah, she probably can't live

57:05

there right I mean,

57:05

that's gonna be it's gonna kind

57:08

of

57:09

Yeah, I think but I

57:10

guess just like on

57:10

on sorry on

57:13

Millennium Falcon. What's

57:14

it called? Buzz?

57:14

Buzz Lightyear and Toy Story

57:18

mania? Like I guess you know if he's one

57:19

of those things, just just one of those things, but then again, yeah.

57:23

Whatever, they

57:23

gotta have a it'll be fun. How

57:26

about the face to Avengers? You

57:26

take it or did COVID kill that?

57:30

It's killed it for

57:30

one. Like, it's gonna happen

57:33

probably until after 2025

57:36

Yeah, I mean,

57:36

there's a space for it. So yeah,

57:38

probably gonna get it but

57:40

like I said, When

57:40

things sit in Imagineering for

57:42

longer, they get redesigned and

57:42

we've revised and new Imagineers

57:46

come in and people put different

57:46

ideas and and they change the

57:49

original idea. You know, first

57:49

an example of this. Mission

57:54

space was never designed to be

57:54

like the mission space that we

57:57

got. It was originally meant to

57:57

be like a space pavilion was

58:00

meant to be like you're meant to

58:00

be on like a hanging roller

58:03

coaster kind of style system.

58:03

And you were like going around

58:06

the outside on like a spacewalk.

58:06

Like it changed and much like

58:11

this Avengers canvasing might

58:11

change the Avengers eat again.

58:18

Yeah, no, I mean

58:18

yeah, yeah, it changed their

58:20

spot the space for it it's Yeah.

58:20

Okay, Mickey Minnie runner is a

58:24

railway coming to town it's

58:24

gonna be carbon copy from the

58:26

one and does not quite it'll be

58:26

nice for to town to town needs

58:30

it out there.

58:31

You go to it may have

58:31

just though he might have an

58:35

extra scene or not. You might have one

58:38

and it's gonna have a slightly different

58:39

view because it's

58:39

have a different key. Yeah, it

58:42

might have an extra scene might

58:42

have a different key. Well, it

58:44

will have a different key

58:44

different store

58:46

and I heard the

58:46

rest that they do have some

58:49

plans for kind of freshening up

58:49

Toontown because it's going to

58:52

draw so much attention about

58:52

there it needs it. That that

58:55

that area is just sad right now.

58:57

Yeah. I mean,

59:00

do you ever go back there? I mean, I

59:01

did. I did. And I

59:01

went on lodro it's karting spin,

59:06

it was great, but it carting

59:06

spins can look really bad next

59:11

to humans but

59:13

it really is I do

59:13

the one thing I like his gadgets

59:15

go coaster, which is a good

59:17

map. I think you should get it if you do. I think

59:23

it won't be good for the kids.

59:25

It's a good like first coaster.

59:27

Yeah. Oh, Lord. Okay.

59:29

Fantasyland theater right now they shut down the show. It looks like that shows

59:31

pretty close at that magical

59:33

mountain. Long, so it's not gonna be a

59:37

theater anymore, or is it good

59:39

long chain long term? They've

59:40

got plans for that

59:40

long term. It's it's good space.

59:44

It's final space. Originally,

59:44

there were ideas of like, they

59:48

really want to incorporate some

59:48

sort of frozen area into

59:51

Disneyland and yeah, I think

59:51

that would be very logical to

59:55

turn that into a frozen Ever

59:55

After clone but who knows if he

59:59

will do Now

1:00:01

it doesn't need to

1:00:01

be did they need to have a show

1:00:03

of some sort? Because to pull

1:00:03

out a big I don't have kids you

1:00:07

don't have kids but I have heard

1:00:07

from families who have kids,

1:00:09

those the magical map and stuff

1:00:09

like that is nice, because it

1:00:12

gives you an opportunity to sit

1:00:12

and the kids can see something

1:00:15

do they need to have something

1:00:15

like a show or is Disney right

1:00:17

now okay with wiping out shareholder

1:00:19

attraction, the

1:00:19

current leadership client, we've

1:00:21

split spoken out like cheat pack

1:00:21

isn't big into entertainment,

1:00:25

like he was the guy said when

1:00:25

galaxy geopend for cast members

1:00:29

will be the entertainment light.

1:00:29

A whole bunch of entertainment

1:00:32

was cut. And the reason being is

1:00:32

because entertainment costs

1:00:37

money, you know, it's not the

1:00:37

mechanics of the line that gets

1:00:41

built and then it's pretty easy,

1:00:41

don't they? It's constantly you

1:00:45

need hire new people all the

1:00:45

time and constantly updating

1:00:48

shows and stuff. And then yeah,

1:00:48

it's like the puppeteers they

1:00:52

cost a lot more to have

1:00:52

puppeteers and stuff. So it's

1:00:55

um, yeah, I long term if it

1:00:55

cheap, it stays. But that's the

1:00:59

thing we need to talk about

1:00:59

cheap, it will stay long term.

1:01:03

I'll say this about JPEG we could talk about later. But I think JPEG was great for I

1:01:05

really don't think we could have

1:01:08

a better CEO for the one year

1:01:08

that we've been COVID because

1:01:11

he's such a stickler. It's such

1:01:11

a penny pincher in terms of any

1:01:17

global pandemic. Yes, yeah. The

1:01:17

question is, once a pandemic

1:01:21

lifts, and we start getting the

1:01:21

influx of attendance again and

1:01:24

stuff in the theaters, is he the

1:01:24

right person for that? We can

1:01:27

discuss that. We'll just finish

1:01:27

up with Disneyland. Splash

1:01:30

Mountain rethink, that's not

1:01:30

just Disneyland, Walt Disney

1:01:32

World, too. But what are your

1:01:32

What are your thought? I mean,

1:01:35

so from this so stupid that this

1:01:35

is a controversy. Isn't it dumb?

1:01:39

Well, I feel that

1:01:39

personally, I I personally feel

1:01:43

that No, no, I I do feel like

1:01:43

it's stupid. It's controversy

1:01:48

that this is even controversial,

1:01:48

because

1:01:51

we're not all let's

1:01:51

be clear when we think it's

1:01:53

stupid that people are like,

1:01:53

crying because it's being

1:01:56

changed.

1:01:57

Things change.

1:01:57

I think it's a

1:01:57

legitimate controversy that it

1:02:01

was based on song himself. That

1:02:01

is a controversy. I understand.

1:02:04

Yes. And I don't understand why

1:02:04

I mean, crying about the change.

1:02:07

Yeah,

1:02:07

I agree with that. It

1:02:07

needed to be changed. But the

1:02:11

change that they're making, I

1:02:11

don't agree with because,

1:02:14

personally, I feel like a

1:02:14

Princess Tiana, great movie,

1:02:18

Princess book, fantastic movie,

1:02:18

fantastic new music, great

1:02:21

representation for the African

1:02:21

American community inside the

1:02:25

Disney parks. However, Princess

1:02:25

Tiana, she is a strong

1:02:29

independent princess who doesn't

1:02:29

just kiss a frog and become a

1:02:33

princess. And that's it. She

1:02:33

works hard. She She buys Tiana's

1:02:38

place and turns into the honors

1:02:38

palace and things like that, and

1:02:41

I feel that she deserved if you

1:02:41

really want to be staying true

1:02:44

to the story, give her her own

1:02:44

restaurant, and maybe even

1:02:49

allied don't re theme, a

1:02:49

problematic attraction to

1:02:53

Princess Tiana, give her

1:02:53

something new and off her own,

1:02:57

not ugly skinned light. That's

1:02:57

how I personally feel. But

1:03:00

obviously it makes more sense if

1:03:00

you're Disney and you're trying

1:03:03

to kill you know, fix, you know,

1:03:03

two birds one stone, that kind

1:03:06

of idea. You want to kill one

1:03:06

problem. And, and present more

1:03:10

diversification in parts. It's

1:03:10

it's a two birds one stone kind

1:03:14

of idea. But I, from what I've

1:03:14

heard about this slide, it's not

1:03:18

even going to send around

1:03:18

printer siana too much, it's

1:03:20

going to be more about Louis,

1:03:20

Louis, Louis B Alligator, then

1:03:24

it will be about Princess Tiana.

1:03:24

And I feel like that that is a

1:03:28

disaster waiting to happen PR

1:03:28

wise when when, you know, young,

1:03:34

young black girls and boys ride

1:03:34

this ride with their families.

1:03:38

And they're like, Hey, we

1:03:38

finally got some representations

1:03:41

of a Disney part. And like it's

1:03:41

Tiana at the end on the Showboat

1:03:44

at the end. And the rest of it's

1:03:44

about an alligator. I don't

1:03:46

think that's going to play that

1:03:46

one. And I feel like no, you

1:03:49

could have done because a whole

1:03:49

lied about mama od and you know,

1:03:55

whole thing. But then again, the

1:03:55

movie itself was controversial

1:03:57

because you know, you have the

1:03:57

first black princess. And she

1:04:01

spent most of the movies I

1:04:01

thought like it was another I

1:04:05

just feel like the I don't know,

1:04:05

it's something that is on earth

1:04:10

no matter what. But the DSM

1:04:10

version is going to go ahead,

1:04:14

the Walt Disney World version at

1:04:14

the current rate, I could see

1:04:18

them maybe hitting the brakes on

1:04:18

that and being like, like, well,

1:04:22

we'll decide what's right, I

1:04:22

still feel like you could rescan

1:04:25

the ride and make a new original

1:04:25

light out of this, like

1:04:29

something like Western river

1:04:29

expedition, like you know,

1:04:32

something along those lines or

1:04:32

build, you know, just, you know,

1:04:35

just re theme it to an original

1:04:35

idea. Instead, remove all the

1:04:40

rest that won't happen. It won't

1:04:40

have that but Unless Unless, you

1:04:43

know the the adventures of

1:04:43

explorers and adventures, you

1:04:48

know, that kind of thing. The

1:04:48

idea that that takes off and

1:04:51

Disney plus and they decide, hey, look, there's a character that we can leave in this Splash

1:04:52

Mountain it Who knows. We don't

1:04:55

know what the future holds.

1:04:57

So I mean, I've gotten a lot of questions myself, and among People around

1:04:59

me who are like Oh, is it gonna

1:05:02

be splashed when it opens and

1:05:02

Disneyland whenever it opens in

1:05:05

May, June July? Yeah. December

1:05:05

No, I yeah. Yeah. So well they

1:05:09

need that they love the money

1:05:09

they're getting from splash

1:05:12

right now and we'll

1:05:13

have one great big

1:05:13

last night and that will make a

1:05:15

lot of money. But I don't know

1:05:15

if Walt Disney World versions

1:05:19

gonna definitely go ahead

1:05:19

because that's the same ride

1:05:21

layout as the one in Tokyo and

1:05:21

imagining we're hoping that they

1:05:25

were going to share the budget,

1:05:25

the Oriental land company own

1:05:29

Tokyo. We're gonna split the

1:05:29

budget with Imagineering on the

1:05:31

review of Magic Kingdom, Magic

1:05:31

Kingdom version and Oriental

1:05:36

line company alight we're not

1:05:36

completely enamored with this

1:05:42

dinner they

1:05:43

say like they think

1:05:43

about it, but they want to see

1:05:45

how it turned out.

1:05:46

They probably will

1:05:46

start to see Disneyland Walt

1:05:49

Disney World's version will probably last a lot longer.

1:05:52

Got it. Now that

1:05:52

makes a lot of sense. And what

1:05:54

can I just ask you guys as as

1:05:54

someone who's more Walt Disney

1:05:56

World and Disneyland The first

1:05:56

thing I mean, of course, there's

1:05:59

people who are complaining about

1:05:59

this for all different reasons.

1:06:01

But the one thing I heard that

1:06:01

really made me scratch my head

1:06:04

was why Tiana's Tiana princess

1:06:04

in the frog doesn't fit in

1:06:09

frontier and make sense in in

1:06:09

Disneyland cuz it's connected to

1:06:14

New Orleans Square, but Splash

1:06:14

Mountain, but then I thought,

1:06:17

Wait a minute, pump the brakes.

1:06:17

What Since when does Splash

1:06:20

Mountain fit in frontier land?

1:06:22

It doesn't. It's

1:06:23

not like well, it

1:06:23

doesn't No,

1:06:25

it doesn't. It

1:06:25

doesn't. So the only thing it

1:06:29

doesn't fit in frontierland

1:06:29

personally but the frontier you

1:06:34

could technically class Georgia

1:06:34

as part of the frontier of

1:06:37

westward expansion, that kind of

1:06:37

stuff a little bit. It's a it

1:06:41

really is a reach I I've never

1:06:41

really thought it really fits in

1:06:44

until and it's always been a

1:06:44

bit. fanatically incorrect. But

1:06:50

it fits so perfectly into New

1:06:50

Orleans Square and isn't it and

1:06:53

but it just doesn't fit in.

1:06:53

Yeah. And I don't see how they

1:06:57

change.

1:06:59

They change hungry bear to Tiana's place.

1:07:01

I could see that

1:07:01

definitely happening. We won't

1:07:04

necessarily be the only place or

1:07:04

Tiana's whatever they'll call

1:07:07

Tiana something and it will

1:07:07

won't be Tiana's place or like

1:07:10

Tiana's place but it will look

1:07:10

it'll be her extra restaurant or

1:07:13

her you know what?

1:07:16

Yeah, okay, Jungle

1:07:16

Cruise update, we that was one

1:07:19

that just wasn't as

1:07:19

controversial as

1:07:22

because Splash Mountain pool found it for a long time. I when I write I

1:07:24

don't like writing it for the

1:07:29

reason that it it's

1:07:29

uncomfortable, to be honest. The

1:07:35

way those animatronics Look,

1:07:35

they are outdated. They, they

1:07:40

their character, their character

1:07:40

choice of all of, you know,

1:07:45

cartoony versions of of

1:07:45

different tribal aspects. And I

1:07:49

don't, I don't feel comfortable

1:07:49

with it. It's not something

1:07:51

which like, our entertainment

1:07:51

has evolved, media landscape has

1:07:55

evolved to more sophisticated

1:07:55

sense of human number one. We

1:07:59

don't just laugh at stuff because we're like, hey, look, that person's got a head in

1:08:01

their hand. Like it's not.

1:08:03

That's not funny. Like, what's

1:08:03

funny now is more sophisticated

1:08:07

human. And so therefore, like, I

1:08:07

feel like it needs to change no

1:08:09

matter what, but I hope they do

1:08:09

a good job with it. But we'll

1:08:14

see.

1:08:15

Yeah, we'll see.

1:08:15

What do they have jumbo cruise

1:08:18

in Disneyland Paris?

1:08:19

I don't know. They

1:08:19

originally have plans to but

1:08:21

they never did. They never

1:08:21

built. And it's because I loved

1:08:26

all the parks around your your

1:08:26

Disney at the time had versions

1:08:31

of the Jungle Cruise, because

1:08:31

when they were all being built,

1:08:35

they all just looked at Disney.

1:08:35

And we're like, we need our own

1:08:37

version of Disney. And they

1:08:37

built copycats of Jungle Cruise.

1:08:41

Because it was very easy to

1:08:41

build an animatronic elephant or

1:08:43

whatever and shove it, you know,

1:08:43

in a jungle environment in

1:08:47

Europe. So yeah,

1:08:49

I think we would

1:08:49

just move on. But the difference

1:08:52

between Splash Mountain response

1:08:52

and Jungle Cruise response is I

1:08:54

think a lot of people were kind

1:08:54

of surprised that Splash

1:08:58

Mountain is based on something

1:08:58

racist because they're not you

1:09:01

or I or someone who's listening

1:09:01

to this podcast. And you know,

1:09:04

they just don't know they think oh, it's a funny story about a rabbit run around. They probably

1:09:06

don't even follow the story.

1:09:08

They go, you know, the bear is

1:09:08

tied up and it's kind of funny.

1:09:11

And then we splash like they and

1:09:11

then they suddenly go Oh, not

1:09:14

only so like I like something

1:09:14

raised like and so then that but

1:09:17

I think with Jungle Cruise, it

1:09:17

was like if you weren't

1:09:20

uncomfortable about that.

1:09:23

How much of it is

1:09:23

also a fact for those who will

1:09:26

run out of town in out of Disney

1:09:26

Twitter's verse or whatever you

1:09:31

want to call it by the Splash

1:09:31

Mountain announcement like

1:09:33

people were like, that's it.

1:09:33

I've had enough of that. Yeah,

1:09:36

how people like woke culture and

1:09:36

things like that. Those people

1:09:39

who were so offended by the

1:09:39

Splash Mountain breeze theme.

1:09:43

They turned off the Disney

1:09:43

altogether and so therefore when

1:09:45

the Jungle Cruise announcement

1:09:45

came around, those people

1:09:47

weren't there to be outraged.

1:09:47

Who knows when it's like a

1:09:49

chicken. It's chicken and egg

1:09:49

kind of thing. Like what Sure

1:09:52

Sure is. Yeah.

1:09:56

Or maybe just splash mom's more beloved and young people love Jungle Cruise.

1:09:57

And is it yeah But now let's get

1:10:00

to the to the most important

1:10:00

park in the world Disneyland

1:10:04

yeah but when that thing reopening

1:10:07

you got April I

1:10:07

believe it's April the eighth or

1:10:10

April the 12th April 12 is its

1:10:10

anniversary so I think it's

1:10:16

April the eighth I think opens a couple of days before

1:10:20

but yeah, a couple

1:10:20

years ago Disney Disney got got

1:10:22

full on

1:10:24

just just so

1:10:24

therefore COVID could hit and it

1:10:27

could take a bigger hit on the

1:10:27

bottom line. But to be honest,

1:10:30

if if they hadn't owned it when

1:10:30

COVID hit I could imagine like

1:10:36

the holding company that held

1:10:36

you know, the ownership of

1:10:38

Disney on balance like God knows

1:10:38

what that park would be looking

1:10:41

like right now. If If Oh really?

1:10:41

Yeah, it wouldn't be in a good

1:10:45

state. France shut down the whole country right

1:10:47

they didn't in like

1:10:47

November they

1:10:50

shut down at the end

1:10:50

of October and

1:10:53

got it Okay. And

1:10:53

then galaxies edge Avengers

1:10:57

campus and there's a whole

1:10:57

frozen that's all come to the

1:10:59

party. The things

1:10:59

that are known unknown isn't

1:11:02

frozen is definite Avengers

1:11:02

campus is definitely because

1:11:05

it's been built with any

1:11:05

galaxy's edge is a bit more.

1:11:07

Yeah. Really?

1:11:09

They haven't I thought they started construction.

1:11:11

Construction on

1:11:11

galaxy's edge. Yeah, like we

1:11:14

know that. So the series of

1:11:14

events are Avengers campus is

1:11:17

going to open first end of this

1:11:17

year, early next year. They had

1:11:22

their own Iron Man roller

1:11:22

coaster which the V theme of

1:11:24

rock and roller coaster and

1:11:24

Spider Man westerns right as

1:11:28

well, a spider man adventure.

1:11:28

And then you've got frozen,

1:11:33

which is Arundale. And there'll

1:11:33

be a frozen embryo after line

1:11:36

system. And that will be opening

1:11:36

around two years after that

1:11:40

there'll be a big draw, and

1:11:40

they've got like a massive Lake

1:11:43

like kind of the size of world

1:11:43

showcase kind of bits, quite

1:11:47

small, but

1:11:48

that kind of thing

1:11:48

will have huge, huge piece of

1:11:51

metal in the middle of it. Well,

1:11:51

if, like harmonious

1:11:54

if we can clone

1:11:54

harmonious and bring it over

1:11:57

which I mean, it's not hard to

1:11:57

find some metal to shove in the

1:11:59

middle of a lake, so maybe they will be

1:12:03

I didn't realize

1:12:03

that's what galaxy's edge is. Is

1:12:05

is. Is this a question mark

1:12:05

around just because

1:12:09

we want to be built?

1:12:09

And also we were scared to

1:12:11

galaxy's edge so far, it's

1:12:11

worthy. But the lines that we

1:12:15

were looking to build as part of

1:12:15

that galaxy's edge was the rise

1:12:19

of resistance attraction, not

1:12:19

Millennium Falcon.

1:12:24

But what about the

1:12:24

bantha ride that everyone's so

1:12:26

sad about?

1:12:28

People that kept

1:12:30

the Ticket Ticket

1:12:30

that everyone just Oh, if only

1:12:34

they had that it would have made

1:12:34

everything different. But I like

1:12:37

what's your bet, like?

1:12:38

You will long term

1:12:38

drop the storyline, and they

1:12:41

will pivot towards incorporating

1:12:41

elements of Mandalorian and

1:12:44

things like that into the parks?

1:12:44

Definitely. I mean, I'll report

1:12:47

on that back in January 2020.

1:12:47

But yeah,

1:12:50

yeah, I agree with that. I don't think they're gonna go as far back as the

1:12:51

original trilogy, but I think

1:12:54

they're gonna they're gonna open

1:12:54

it up to other things. They have

1:12:56

to I mean, okay, real quick.

1:12:56

Before we get to the long term.

1:13:01

I just want to galaxy's edge. What was your thoughts on that? I mean, I know you I think you'd

1:13:03

like I really like your videos.

1:13:06

Like I said, I loved

1:13:06

lines of resistance. It's

1:13:09

fantastic. Looking back on it

1:13:09

now I do feel like maybe it

1:13:13

probably wasn't the best move to

1:13:13

theme it to. to the new trilogy,

1:13:18

not Yeah, maybe it might have

1:13:18

been better but Darth Vader and

1:13:21

Luke Skywalker and layer in

1:13:21

there instead. But I can also

1:13:26

see where they're going with it.

1:13:26

I mean, it's pretty easy to be

1:13:28

skinny if they want to do

1:13:28

something else. It is a Yeah, it

1:13:32

could easily do that if you want

1:13:32

to do, but it's a fantastic

1:13:35

attraction. I love galaxies

1:13:35

edge. I kind of I'm very much

1:13:40

looking forward to the stars

1:13:40

hotel. Probably won't be able to

1:13:42

afford to Kara's gonna ask I

1:13:43

didn't put it on there. Galaxy galactic starcruiser Hollywood just so

1:13:45

you guys know who's listening.

1:13:47

If you don't know Walt Disney

1:13:47

World Resort Hotel, it's gonna

1:13:50

be connected to Disney Hollywood

1:13:50

Studios. It's like I said, it's

1:13:54

Star Wars themed, which is

1:13:54

really like very poor way to

1:13:59

describe because that's really

1:13:59

light. I mean, it is fully

1:14:01

immersive. What do you what are

1:14:01

your thoughts on this thing?

1:14:04

Well, it's going to

1:14:04

be the next immersive stepping

1:14:07

themed entertainment so what

1:14:07

they're aiming to do is people

1:14:10

are like lightning to live

1:14:10

action roleplay laughing or

1:14:14

something like that, but that's

1:14:14

what they're aiming to do. So

1:14:17

you'll walk into the number one

1:14:17

it's it's not really like a

1:14:20

hotel it's more like a cruise

1:14:20

line experience. So you have an

1:14:24

itinerary everything will be

1:14:24

themed exactly like to how it is

1:14:29

in Star Wars it will feel you'll

1:14:29

be encouraged develop a

1:14:31

character have a bit of a

1:14:31

backstory, you know, play along

1:14:35

the missions. It's a full

1:14:35

immersive you know, please

1:14:38

escape into the world of Star

1:14:38

Wars a little bit like Westworld

1:14:42

less so of the robotic, you

1:14:42

know, possibly better. But yeah,

1:14:48

none of it will be star it will

1:14:48

be their version of like as

1:14:51

close as you can get like a

1:14:51

Westworld kind of experience but

1:14:54

for Star Wars. So you'll have an

1:14:54

excursion down to Black Swan

1:14:58

outpost and it will themed

1:14:58

everything staying you don't you

1:15:02

won't be walking through the

1:15:02

main gate of Disney's Hollywood

1:15:04

Studios, you'll be taking a

1:15:04

special entry point into

1:15:08

galaxy's edge. And they'll even

1:15:08

be special themed activities and

1:15:13

galaxy's edge for the Galactic

1:15:13

starcruiser guests than they

1:15:17

will be for Santa guess. And I

1:15:17

reckon that'll probably take

1:15:20

place before the park opens, or

1:15:20

maybe after hours or something,

1:15:27

but don't don't need to find a way.

1:15:29

One. When's the

1:15:29

next one? You're expecting this

1:15:32

to open?

1:15:32

Well, they keep

1:15:32

saying 2021 but under these

1:15:35

current circumstances, I can see

1:15:35

it being early 2020 it is

1:15:39

scheduled for 2021 but I can see

1:15:39

everything. And like I said, I

1:15:44

don't think we'll be without

1:15:44

masks in Disney parks in 2021.

1:15:47

So I think it'll be 2020

1:15:50

would you want to do it?

1:15:51

I would want to do

1:15:51

it. Yeah, but I don't also want

1:15:54

to do it as like a news kind of

1:15:54

like video aspect because like

1:15:58

it's gonna be just for fun I

1:15:58

don't want to be like trying to

1:16:00

film everything I won't actually

1:16:00

enjoy it like you know mean like

1:16:03

I was okay to do with like the

1:16:03

eyes of resistance and

1:16:06

Millennium Falcon stuff like

1:16:06

because I can go and do it many

1:16:08

many times. But like this will

1:16:08

be it will be so expensive. I'll

1:16:12

only be able to really once then

1:16:12

if I'm doing want to enjoy it,

1:16:16

but I don't know. We'll see.

1:16:19

I don't know I get I get stressed out when I have to check in and talk to the

1:16:20

person at the front of the

1:16:23

hotel. I couldn't imagine having

1:16:23

to be like, like you're fully

1:16:26

into the whole time. Like when

1:16:26

you get to relax and I'm 63 to

1:16:30

50 like I'm not gonna fit in

1:16:30

those rooms. It's not a small

1:16:33

room to look like

1:16:33

no, no, no. Don't

1:16:33

it's a big double bed. It's a

1:16:36

you get not just bunks.

1:16:40

Yeah, or queen.

1:16:45

size beds, British

1:16:45

beds, but I see a lot of people

1:16:51

talking about bunk beds. And

1:16:51

it's not you're not sleeping in

1:16:54

a bunk bed. But that's for the kids.

1:16:56

And does every room

1:16:56

have bunks

1:16:58

every room will have

1:16:58

bunks? It seems like it's like

1:17:01

it's like a cruise line. And and

1:17:01

the room will be roughly the

1:17:05

same size as a cruise line

1:17:05

cabin. So yeah, they all smooth

1:17:08

but perfect. Yeah. If you can

1:17:08

manage that. Sure, but

1:17:11

you have things to do. You don't need to stay in your lane. Okay. Now we're gonna move on just

1:17:14

this is pure speculation. So

1:17:17

it's getting late so we can

1:17:17

beyond long term anything five

1:17:21

plus years or more. Which park

1:17:21

so the reason I wrote this, I