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Special Guest Jack DSNY Newscast: Part 3 - Covering Disney as a Disney YouTuber

Special Guest Jack DSNY Newscast: Part 3 - Covering Disney as a Disney YouTuber

Released Thursday, 4th March 2021
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Special Guest Jack DSNY Newscast: Part 3 - Covering Disney as a Disney YouTuber

Special Guest Jack DSNY Newscast: Part 3 - Covering Disney as a Disney YouTuber

Special Guest Jack DSNY Newscast: Part 3 - Covering Disney as a Disney YouTuber

Special Guest Jack DSNY Newscast: Part 3 - Covering Disney as a Disney YouTuber

Thursday, 4th March 2021
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0:06

Welcome to the

0:06

Disney beat a podcast brought to

0:09

you by The DisInsider.com. My

0:09

name is Sean Nyberg and I will

0:17

be covering all of the Disney

0:17

headlines to keep you informed

0:21

as you start your week. Hello

0:21

there This is Sean Nyberg and

0:27

this is a very special edition

0:27

of the Disney beat podcast. I

0:31

recently had the pleasure of

0:31

speaking with one of the most

0:33

popular and beloved Disney

0:33

youtubers around jack Kendall

0:36

from dsny newscast. Our

0:36

conversation lasted two and a

0:40

half hours and we covered a wide

0:40

range of topics. I released the

0:45

conversation in three parts I

0:45

previously released part one,

0:48

where we focused on Disney theme

0:48

parks and part two where we

0:52

discussed Disney plus upcoming

0:52

Disney films and The Walt Disney

0:56

Company as a business. This

0:56

episode is part three and here

1:00

we are going to look at Jack's

1:00

YouTube channel dsny newscast

1:03

and talk about the pitfalls and

1:03

joys that come with being a

1:06

Disney YouTuber. We also look at

1:06

the different styles of news

1:09

coverage and how one stands out

1:09

in a crowded field. So sit back

1:13

and enjoy part three of my

1:13

conversation with jack Kendall

1:16

from dsny newscast already in

1:16

progress. All right, so let's do

1:20

a little bit about the dsny

1:20

newscast. So you know, just give

1:22

me the Give me the let me just

1:22

tell you real quick. The reason,

1:25

you know when I got into this,

1:25

and I started really looking at

1:28

the YouTube channels for

1:28

information, I mean, your videos

1:32

just stand out aesthetically.

1:32

Like they're just, they're just

1:35

a try. I mean not to be creepy,

1:35

like they're attractive to look

1:37

at, in the sense that you've got

1:37

good colors, you've got good

1:40

lighting, like is that something

1:40

that's important to you?

1:42

Well, I mean, I've

1:42

got graphic design past. So like

1:46

when I look at everything on the

1:46

channel, like even the dark wall

1:49

in the background, like

1:49

originally, if you actually go

1:52

right back to the very beginning

1:52

of my channel back in April

1:54

2017, you'll notice I was stood

1:54

in front of a cream, and very

1:57

quickly, I was like, Yes, need

1:57

to do something with the

2:00

contrast, you know, to make

2:00

myself pop a bit more out from

2:03

the background. So I was like,

2:03

I'll paint the wall, dark gray.

2:08

And it makes everything else

2:08

pop, you know, the colors pop up

2:10

more and things like that. So

2:10

just a matter of standpoint.

2:14

Yeah, the colors and the brand

2:14

aesthetics really matters with a

2:18

YouTube channel, I feel and and

2:18

then it's also just persistence,

2:22

dedication, and just the

2:22

frequency to get those videos

2:26

out to build that audience to

2:26

begin with. And don't sometimes

2:30

just

2:31

sometimes, yeah,

2:31

sometimes you just got can't be

2:34

you can't always be in the mood

2:34

to make videos, right. But you

2:36

just have to write because you have

2:38

this this past year has been pretty difficult to be honest, going up and down trying

2:40

to you know, as it has been in

2:42

February of the pandemic, but

2:42

trying to find the motivation to

2:46

be nimble and positive about

2:46

some of the parts of which you

2:49

can't always be. And then

2:49

personally, it's been a bit of a

2:52

difficult year, lots of

2:52

grandparents. So that was that

2:54

was pretty difficult, but also

2:54

just the COVID things in

2:58

general, you know it, and then

2:58

the election cycle and

3:02

everything, it was just all it

3:02

gets difficult sometimes to stay

3:06

dedicated and write the scripts

3:06

and get the videos out.

3:09

Well, especially because you're on such a positive channel, right? Like

3:10

it's one thing if you if your

3:13

whole job was to be complained

3:13

about things, but you're such an

3:15

upbeat guy, at least you know,

3:15

according to your videos, you

3:17

got you feel like you feel that

3:17

stress to maintain that.

3:20

Well, you see, the

3:20

thing is, it's the I don't ever

3:22

see it as positive and negative

3:22

it is energy. Like I don't like

3:25

to look low energy in a video I

3:25

don't like to be like over the

3:28

top and energy wise in front of

3:28

a camera because it comes across

3:32

as fake. Like, hi there. Yeah,

3:32

haha, you know, please watch me

3:36

that kind of like manic kind of

3:36

personality, I don't like that

3:40

kind of feel. So I try and just

3:40

be level headed energy because

3:45

you know, you don't want to see someone at the end of their workday, you want to see someone

3:47

who looks like they're a bit

3:49

more engaged with what they're

3:49

talking about. And, and then I

3:53

provide just honest, if I don't

3:53

like singing, I'll say I don't

3:56

like it. But I always try and

3:56

provide a more a better way of

4:00

doing it. Well, it's like the

4:00

old Walt Disney quote, which

4:03

was, you know, was never used to

4:03

like, people who would just

4:07

slashed down an idea. He was

4:07

like, if you're going to slash

4:10

down an idea, give me a better

4:10

one. Don't just come to

4:13

negatives come to me with a

4:13

negative, but also an

4:16

alternative. And that's what I

4:16

try and do my videos. So if I

4:19

don't like being in the parks,

4:19

which I'm important on news

4:22

wise, I'll always be like this

4:22

is a better way that they could

4:24

possibly do it. So hopefully

4:24

that keeps it kind of upbeat and

4:29

a bit more positive than just

4:29

having an agenda which showed us

4:33

what do you think what do you would you say your point of view,

4:35

what do you think? I mean, we kind of covered it, but what do you think that

4:37

separates? You know, what's your

4:39

brand?

4:40

So this past year has

4:40

made me think a lot about this

4:44

because obviously, the new

4:44

slowed down all this sort of

4:48

stuff happened and I thought to

4:48

myself, What can make me

4:51

different to everyone else,

4:51

everyone else started to cover

4:53

the news and it's the difference

4:53

of me as I explained the news, I

4:57

like to try and pull people

4:57

along for the ride. Not just be

5:00

like, here's a headline. And you

5:00

know, people who watch it,

5:05

depending on how successful I am

5:05

explaining the news, hopefully

5:08

views will match it. But I

5:08

always try and, you know, let

5:13

we're going to start at a certain level, and we're going to talk at this certain level,

5:15

I'm going into a video with the

5:19

understanding that most people

5:19

know roughly what I'm talking

5:22

about. And we can just start to

5:22

dive straight into it, as I say

5:25

in the videos, but try and

5:25

explain the news.

5:29

No, that's, that's great. You know, there's a lot of ones. There's some people who

5:30

walk the parks and that's the

5:33

thing and that's great. There's

5:33

other people who just are you

5:36

know, serial complainers, and

5:36

you know, not my cup of tea, but

5:38

that's their thing. You know,

5:38

um, there's an audience I just

5:41

love some

5:41

people who who want

5:41

then you know, they want a bit

5:45

more criticism of Disney like I

5:45

will get critical of Disney when

5:50

I feel it's warranted. But I

5:50

don't feel like many people are

5:54

Disney fan because they hate the

5:54

company. Sure. You sometimes

5:59

gotta separate your love of the

5:59

brands and love of the company

6:02

because the company is a company

6:02

you know?

6:05

Do you ever get

6:05

feedback that you're too easy on

6:09

them?

6:10

No, I never get I

6:10

never get any of that sort of

6:12

stuff. I never get called

6:12

anything like what would be

6:17

called a cheerleader of Disney

6:17

or anything like that i

6:20

corporatist Yeah, like

6:22

you know, yeah, that

6:22

sort of thing. I mean, with the

6:24

whole Gina Carano thing recently

6:24

I've had a couple of comments

6:27

being like you know, you know

6:27

fire Kathleen Kennedy higher

6:31

back Jean. I'm not going to stop

6:31

my news videos for a while now.

6:37

Oh, good. You said her name. I wasn't gonna bring her up for tonight.

6:41

500 comments about

6:41

Gina Carano I want to talk about

6:44

Star Wars hotel not necessarily

6:44

manage Oh, yeah, whatever. Yeah,

6:50

that's so funny. You just bring up something like Star Wars hotel. I'm sure you

6:51

get flooded, which is not just

6:53

bought I mean bots probably

6:53

sometimes, but like just super

6:56

fans. Yeah,

6:57

yeah. Yeah.

6:58

How are you in your power? I mean, not you because you're the UK but how are people

7:00

who have loggers in Orlando

7:03

gonna survive if this thing

7:03

waits a few more months? I feel

7:06

I feel so bad for them. I mean,

7:06

are they already there almost

7:08

every day waiting for a soft open

7:11

case coming out all the time.

7:15

Maybe you take a

7:15

picture of the garbage can

7:18

I do you feel from

7:18

blogging community and the

7:21

community I feel for most is the

7:21

design vlogging community.

7:25

Because Yeah, but then again,

7:25

it's kind of part and parcel of

7:28

like, when you base your whole

7:28

business model around being

7:32

geographically in a certain

7:32

place. That's what's a bit

7:35

risky. And like I started up

7:35

DSI, newscasts from the UK, I

7:39

mean, you know, I went to Disney

7:39

World, but like, it wasn't a

7:42

necessity for me on my channel

7:42

to be in Walt Disney World every

7:45

day. And when people start to

7:45

lean too hard into that that's

7:48

when it gets a little bit yeah

7:50

well, here's a deep question for you We'll get back to the partial if you were to if

7:52

you live with your artist with

7:57

your girlfriend without Yes Do you live in Orlando or in Anaheim? Do you think you would

7:59

have been as you are your

8:06

channel is so much more in depth

8:06

and you really talk about things

8:09

more so than just like here's a

8:09

cool picture I got the no one

8:12

else got now if you live near

8:12

these parks, do you think a

8:15

channel would be more like the

8:15

other one so or do you think you

8:17

still would have had the in

8:17

depth analysis overview

8:20

here's the thing,

8:20

when so 2019 I spent quite a bit

8:25

of time out in America. And I

8:25

was meant to make a move to

8:28

America last year. I was

8:28

planning on making a move COVID

8:32

hit it to everything sideways.

8:32

But um, so then my channel had

8:38

to pivot and all of a sudden I

8:38

saw the pivot happen. I was like

8:41

I already had the itch to start

8:41

doing different types of

8:45

content. armchair Imagineering

8:45

you know, some deeper dive

8:49

topics more explainable is

8:49

getting really into the nitty

8:51

gritty of these news topics.

8:51

Because the news is slowing

8:54

down. Instead of trying to make

8:54

I made a conscious decision to

8:58

be like, I'm not going to take

8:58

small news items and try and

9:01

make them big, which some people

9:01

did. You know, it's just what

9:06

they did. You know, I can't say

9:06

any way but like if the

9:11

Polynesians gonna get a new

9:11

hotel entrance arch, you know,

9:17

I'm not going to turn that into

9:17

a whole video. I mentioned in

9:19

the video, but I'm not turning into a whole video but other people did decide to turn stuff

9:21

into big, big topics. And I

9:25

understand the reason why because it's like yeah, lack of news. But so I just like sat

9:26

back and like I'm gonna make

9:29

better videos. Now your question

9:29

about whether is if I was out

9:33

there would have made the same

9:33

decision. I was already starting

9:35

to think that way when I was out

9:35

there in 2019. I had started the

9:40

transition on my channel Stan's

9:40

happen. I spent 25 minutes or 20

9:46

minutes on a Disney plus review

9:46

in 2019. When I was actually out

9:50

in America at the time, and when

9:50

it was released, I didn't get as

9:52

many views but I was like I want

9:52

to be thorough with with this.

9:55

Yeah. The view and Tower of

9:55

Terror and stuff like that. I

9:59

did like long Form videos then.

9:59

So I was already signed to get

10:03

the itch, like do more, more in

10:03

depth videos and stuff. But you,

10:09

you do make a point of like it,

10:09

it becomes very, it's not lazy,

10:13

it's, I wouldn't use Word lazy

10:13

at all. But you know, people may

10:17

think it's a little bit late and

10:17

just go to a park and point a

10:19

camera. But it becomes very

10:19

easy. And I did fall into that

10:24

sometimes, you know, if you

10:24

don't have a video ready to go

10:27

for a certain day, you may be

10:27

like, I feel really bad to this

10:31

video taking longer than usual,

10:31

I'll just go to the parks and

10:33

zero quick live stream, you

10:33

know, and, and I did do that a

10:37

couple of times. And you can

10:37

slip into that kind of like,

10:40

hey, and then live streams make

10:40

quite a bit of money. I might

10:43

keep doing live streams. And

10:43

it's just like, you fall into it

10:46

by mistake. Rather than being

10:46

like strategical about like what

10:50

you want to actually do with the

10:50

direction. But when I do

10:53

eventually move out to America,

10:53

I'm gonna do just as much

10:56

content inside the studio now,

10:56

as I always do. Good. Yeah.

11:01

Good. No, I, the

11:01

weight from someone from the

11:03

outside is looking at, I gotta

11:03

tell you, it's like, those

11:06

people who are there all the time. That's great. They're like cable news, right? They're like

11:08

CNN or Fox News, whatever. Yeah,

11:12

there they are. And like, everything has to be a big deal, right? Like, Oh, my God, Trump

11:14

email or Biden said this, and is

11:17

that and then there's like,

11:17

you're more like, I don't know

11:20

if you guys get it's a PBS thing

11:20

frontline, where they like,

11:22

we'll talk about like, Jamal

11:22

Khashoggi and Khashoggi and his

11:26

death. And then it's more like

11:26

an hour. And then and then

11:28

there's people like, Who's the

11:28

guy? Kevin perjure? Who will do

11:33

like, Yeah, really long. Those

11:33

are great, too. And, and you're

11:37

more what I would look for in

11:37

news like, Yeah, when I'm like,

11:41

Oh, I want to know about what's going on with the water situation in Flint, Michigan.

11:43

I'm like, Okay, this frontline

11:46

half an hour long special on it,

11:46

cuz I want to know about it is,

11:50

it's, it's actually

11:50

not. Okay, so we're gonna be off

11:55

topic. But it's also do like how

11:55

we've all grown up with news. So

12:00

American news media has very

12:00

much pivoted towards on the

12:03

ground in the moment. You know,

12:03

there's 18 inches of snow in

12:08

Texas, breaking news, breaking

12:08

news. And when you're covering

12:11

breaking news, you don't have

12:11

the flip side of that is yes,

12:14

you're breaking news. But you also don't have all the facts. And you also don't have the time

12:16

to properly think about

12:19

something and give a proper

12:19

reaction and, and thoughtful

12:23

analysis. When Disney changed

12:23

CEOs last year, I was at the

12:30

time I was on holiday with my

12:30

girlfriend. And, and it happened

12:35

and I remember being in a hotel

12:35

room at night in Paris and being

12:37

like, Oh, god, this has just happened. We've just done it on a random Tuesday, March in

12:39

February. And I wasn't going to

12:44

run off to disempowers the next

12:44

day and try and film something

12:46

in the parks. I was like, I'm

12:46

going to sit on this. People who

12:49

got the news have got the news, I'm going to sit on this, I'm going to think about it, I'm

12:51

going to really have an in depth

12:53

look at what happens. And I

12:53

predicted quite a few of the

12:57

changes of Alan Bergman and

12:57

stuff like that. I was like, you

13:00

know, he's going to take over,

13:00

and zeny muku and people like

13:05

that, as I spoke about the whole

13:05

executive change, not just like,

13:08

yeah, breaking news, Bob cherry

13:08

picks the new CEO. And so it I

13:13

think it's a it's a changing of

13:13

how our news media has provided

13:18

us content. And in the UK very

13:18

much. We still have in depth

13:23

news reporting like that news

13:23

pieces, you know, they are five

13:28

minute news pieces. And now in

13:28

America, you know, you can watch

13:31

a lot of news pieces on YouTube

13:31

and they're like a minute two

13:34

minutes. And they're not that in

13:34

depth. Yeah, but

13:37

you guys screwed us up with with that taught you guys you guys invented the

13:38

tabloid journalism

13:41

Yeah, we also made

13:41

his name over in the UK and then

13:46

we gave you Fox News. So yeah,

13:49

then he plays it

13:49

poisoned us too. But I want to

13:54

say though, and I'm gonna I'm

13:54

gonna name one just because and

13:57

this is a compliment. I like all

13:57

ears. Right that there are very

14:00

opposite of you. Right? They've got they've got people who go out to the parks almost every

14:02

day. They do fun challenges. I

14:05

mean, like, I don't even Yeah, I

14:05

don't think of you guys. You're

14:08

both Disney but like, I don't

14:08

know, not one's not better one's

14:11

worse. But like for me, like I'm

14:11

making I'm planning my trip and

14:14

I'm such a control freak. I like

14:14

to watch Molly walk around

14:18

animal kingdom because then like

14:18

for me, it helps give me Okay,

14:21

so that's really how far things

14:21

are. Yeah. And but then when I

14:24

hear like, oh, there's there's a

14:24

change with the Galactic

14:27

starcruiser the Star Wars hotel

14:27

I'm like, I want to see what

14:30

jack has to say about it because

14:30

he's gonna have a really good

14:32

breakdown of how the whole

14:32

buildings laid out. And so it's

14:35

just cool because you guys all

14:35

can can exist in the same

14:37

universe. And you provide

14:37

different content now within I

14:41

think what's cool about you,

14:41

sorry, real quick, is you are

14:45

kind of on your own like, like I

14:45

said, Kevin perjure does some

14:49

deep stuff but that's more like

14:49

historical like, you know, our

14:51

you know, that one he did about

14:51

the rock band and Disneyland

14:54

like that was cool. I don't

14:57

know how seen Well, yeah, that was a

14:59

Halcyon Feel Oh,

14:59

that was Yeah, you don't really

15:02

have no one's really up to your

15:02

standard in terms of what you do

15:05

the more in depth stuff and I

15:05

just love that you're not on the

15:07

ground like trying to fight

15:07

with, like, I want to see you

15:09

like, do you see that picture of

15:09

everyone the velocity coaster

15:11

like? Yeah, well vloggers with

15:11

the same camera thing.

15:15

Yeah, I've

15:15

experienced that. Okay, I didn't

15:18

like it. And when Ed cots with

15:18

illuminations reflections final

15:25

night, and it caught forever,

15:25

the amount of loggers that were

15:28

around that part that night,

15:28

like I didn't even take a video

15:31

of illuminations reflections or

15:31

finite or Epcot forever? I don't

15:35

think I did. Are you there? I

15:35

was there for, I don't think

15:38

I've caught it at coffee. I

15:38

don't think I did. Because I was

15:42

like, people gonna, I think I

15:42

may record it for like a review

15:45

later on. But like, I wasn't gonna post it individually. because number one is a

15:47

copyright nightmare. And number two, I was just like, everyone's

15:49

doing it. And this is very much

15:53

this mentality within the Disney

15:53

community of who's going to be

15:57

first. That's the problem. And

15:57

YouTube kind of rewards people

16:04

who are first, Robin boos who

16:04

really put in the time, and

16:08

there are many small creators

16:08

out there who really spend a

16:13

huge amount of time working on

16:13

this stuff aren't getting the

16:16

traction, because they're not

16:16

first, you know, or they're not

16:20

as quick at editing, or

16:20

whatever. Yeah, it's like muscle

16:25

memory, you do get quicker at

16:25

it. If you if you edit, you

16:28

know, longer videos, you do get

16:28

a bit quicker editing short

16:30

videos. That's why I found

16:30

anything. But there's so much

16:33

just mentality of if you're not

16:33

first, you know, you have

16:36

breaking breaking news, this

16:36

kind of thing. And when I was

16:39

running that train, when I was

16:39

on that train, I was running,

16:42

running alongside it, whether in

16:42

2019 and 2018 2017. My life

16:47

actually wasn't that good. Like,

16:47

if I'm being honest, I'm being

16:50

really honest, when you're

16:50

having to find three videos to

16:53

do each week. And when you

16:53

finish one video, you don't even

16:57

get time to look back and think

16:57

I'm proud of that video. And you

17:02

are instead thinking about the

17:02

next video. Everything becomes

17:08

it just becomes temporary.

17:08

Everything becomes

17:11

an affiliate you never would ever complete. You never get to like like never,

17:13

always,

17:15

when's my next hit?

17:15

Yeah, they have views. Yeah. And

17:18

I feel like that kind of

17:18

mentality in the blogging

17:21

community is not great for them

17:21

the mentality of a lot of

17:25

bloggers, because it's all about

17:25

well, I need to I need to post

17:28

video every day, cuz you know, I

17:28

need my next hit. people rely on

17:32

me. And if it just, it takes a

17:32

lot to be like, I'm going to sit

17:36

back, I'm going to not be lazy,

17:36

I'm going to sit back and and

17:38

provide a really good video. And

17:38

I'm going to do a couple of

17:41

times. And yeah, the views are

17:41

going to be a bit of a hit. And

17:44

I'm going to get a bit of a hit

17:44

in terms of monetization as

17:47

well. But I am going to have

17:47

something which I'm feel a bit

17:49

more accomplished about and

17:49

proud of. And when I produce a

17:53

video now I'm I'm really proud

17:53

of the video. But yeah, back in

17:57

2018, last video, video video

17:57

video, it was it was so I just

18:03

wasn't enjoying the channel as

18:03

much because it was so much

18:06

about what's my next film, what's my next topic, you

18:08

know? And it and i,

18:08

you can see that with you you

18:11

enjoy, you can tell that you you

18:11

are comfortable in the skin that

18:14

you're in right now. Yeah, like

18:14

you've kind of found your voice.

18:17

Yeah. And I would say

18:17

that when I was in 2018, or

18:20

2018, I wasn't giving as much of

18:20

my voice in videos, because it

18:23

was so here's the news, here's

18:23

the headlines, you know, and I

18:27

wasn't giving myself like my

18:27

page, but I bought my scripts,

18:30

and they were like a page and a

18:30

half. Like that was it. And

18:35

they're double spaced as well.

18:35

Like, you know, it wasn't much

18:37

like I know, a page of a4 for me

18:37

is about three minutes of

18:41

voiceover. And so like I was

18:41

doing videos, which are like six

18:46

minutes long, that's what the

18:46

end and outro and all the other

18:49

stuff. Now my videos last like

18:49

four pages, I'm like, oh god,

18:53

that's gonna be a 12 minute

18:53

video or 30 minute video, and

18:56

it's gonna go on and on. But I

18:56

know the products better because

19:00

of it. It's I feel like having

19:00

this could be a whole discussion

19:04

by itself, we should be talking

19:04

about Disney park. It is and I

19:07

love it.

19:07

I think a lot of people in the community actually have it or they think it. But

19:09

you know, I just think we both

19:12

can be politically correct. And

19:12

you just say, you know, those

19:14

people who do the instant stuff.

19:14

There's an audience for that,

19:17

and people like it, and maybe

19:17

for them, it's not so

19:19

uncomfortable. And maybe that

19:19

for some reason, that just

19:22

brings them the joy that it

19:22

does. But for someone like you

19:24

and maybe the reason that I

19:24

asked you to do an interview is

19:27

because I'm more attracted to

19:27

your kind of style. And so to

19:30

you and I are like oh my god

19:30

living like that and like five

19:32

second clips are like people

19:32

that would be crazy. But some

19:35

people are like God, I don't

19:35

want to sit and listen about to

19:37

a 20 minute video about Of

19:37

course, you know, the layout of

19:41

remedies, Ratatouille, a

19:43

great film and the

19:43

beginning when I started doing

19:45

these kind of longer form videos

19:45

will be all instead of me. I'm

19:48

not going to be covering for the

19:48

the quick news flash kind of

19:53

stuff. And I'm not I think that

19:53

there's always a place of this

19:57

kind of like you know this on

19:57

the part vlogging kind of stuff.

20:01

But I also feel like I want to

20:01

say to the rest of the

20:04

community, like, it takes a lot

20:04

to step back, but it's better

20:08

for your mental health if you

20:08

do. Because I know a lot of

20:11

things stuff that isn't spoken

20:11

about is youtubers in general.

20:15

You know, we all have like, very

20:15

privileged and lucky to have the

20:19

jobs that we have, I'm always

20:19

grateful and fortunate for what

20:22

I do. But like any job, it,

20:22

you've got to have a good work.

20:28

Good work life balance, too. And

20:28

you choose one of those things

20:33

where you have the fame, the the

20:33

being spotted things like that

20:37

you you don't, you can go down

20:37

this very dangerous path of

20:40

being like, oh, I've got to

20:40

produce something every single

20:42

day. And just step back, take a

20:42

break, and actually enjoy the

20:49

break and actually rethink your

20:49

channel direction.

20:53

I love that. And I want to say like when I when I start working as a designer, and

20:54

Skylar like he would send me

20:56

like, there'd be like an announcement like today, like, new mass policy, and I'll get on

20:59

He's like, dude, like, get it to

21:02

me later tonight or tomorrow,

21:02

like, unless we're breaking a

21:05

story, because, you know,

21:05

Schuyler does do some, you know,

21:07

that's one thing where you want,

21:07

but like, hey, like, especially

21:10

with the way we you know, I like

21:10

to write long things like I'm

21:13

working on I have five stories that are half written right now just because I like that. But

21:15

you know, some people like the,

21:18

the short stuff, and a lot of

21:18

people love to watch it so good

21:20

for them

21:21

that way, and Scott

21:21

is white, like you do will burn

21:24

people, like people can only

21:24

run, you know, full speed for so

21:27

long. And I definitely felt that

21:27

in 2017. Like, I worked 23

21:33

weekends that year. And I didn't

21:33

I barely slept like I worked for

21:37

three days straight, and I

21:37

barely slept. And like at the

21:39

end of it, people were even commenting on videos. Like you look tired, like I looked. And I

21:41

pretty much conked out for like,

21:47

20 hours after that, like I

21:47

slept for nearly a day, because

21:51

you worked, but it's not

21:51

sustainable. And that's the

21:54

thing like you should always try

21:54

and find a healthy balance. But

21:58

yeah,

21:59

well, there's so

21:59

much toxicity in a lot of the

22:01

does Twitter, Disney community and I think some of it is sexism. I think some of it is

22:03

racism, I think some of homophobia, I think some but I

22:05

do think a lot of it is this

22:08

You're right, this race this rat

22:08

race. And this like we don't

22:12

like them and they don't like

22:12

them. Oh, they got you know, and

22:14

it's just it's tribal?

22:15

Yes. Yes, you've got

22:15

different tribes of different

22:18

people being like, Oh, I'm, I'm

22:18

riding with whoever and it

22:22

becomes very much I've got my

22:22

gang. And, and I also feel that

22:29

like, I don't know it, it's just

22:29

not a very healthy environment

22:34

to constantly live within that

22:34

kind of headspace of, of, you

22:39

know, I need to beat whoever you

22:39

know, it takes a lot of

22:43

willpower and, you know, strong

22:43

minded outset to like, look at

22:47

No, we need to get back to Disney Parks gone.

22:49

Let's let's get you

22:49

know, I know. But hey, this is

22:51

something that I think just doesn't get talked about enough because I think everyone's too.

22:52

They don't reflect on themselves

22:56

enough to be able to talk about

22:56

it anyway. Well, there you have

23:01

it. Part Three. The conclusion

23:01

of our conversation with jack

23:03

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