Joining this week’s Dispatch Podcast with Sarah is former Secretary of Defense Mark Esper. Esper was also secretary of the Army during the Trump administration, and in his new book, A Sacred Oath: Memoirs of a Secretary of Defense During Extraordinary Times, he talks about the challenges that came with working under President Trump. In the podcast, Esper and Sarah discuss life on the inside of the administration, Esper’s infamous “Four Nos,” and what he sees as the greatest threat to the United States today. Hint, his fears are more about things happening inside the country, not outside. Show Notes:-A Sacred Oath: Memoirs of a Secretary of Defense During Extraordinary Times-Esper Paints Chaotic Picture of Trump Administration’s Middle East Policy, by Charlotte Lawson

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