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Hi,
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of Ask Mark Anything. My
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name is Hershel Perth. I'm the doctor Heimin Plus
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Community Manager, and I'm joined by
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Darcy Gross, who is one of producers
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of the longevity roadmap docu series.
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Hi, Darcy. Hi, good morning.
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Good morning. And of course, we are here with
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our expert, Dr. Mark Heimid.
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Hi, Dr. Heimid. Hi, everybody.
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Thanks
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for joining us today and
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answering the Ask Mark Anything questions.
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So let's go ahead and get started.
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So our first question comes from Arc Media
1:50
and they want to know what is the best way
1:52
to prevent breast cancer or
1:55
prevent it from reoccurring. And also,
1:57
do you recommend thermography or
1:59
mammograms for early detection?
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Alright,
2:02
thanks. Well, that's a great question. breast cancer is
2:04
a big problem, and it's affects
2:07
so many women. It's so common,
2:09
but it didn't used to be. And I think part
2:11
of the reason is one hour diet and
2:14
two environmental toxins. So
2:16
the two things I think you can do and
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there's many, many things will through, but the two things
2:20
that I think that are most important to do are one,
2:23
to address your diet. In some resistance,
2:26
sugar, starch, is
2:29
driving high levels of insulin, and
2:31
that drives inflammation, and
2:33
the whole process of cancer is
2:35
fueled by sugar and starch. So if
2:37
you really want to address
2:40
the risk for breast cancer, the key is
2:42
to really deal with the visceral belly
2:44
fat. And then it's following all the guidelines
2:46
I've put out for the pro. for all these years around,
2:48
for example, low glycemic diets,
2:51
low starch sugar diets, higher good
2:53
quality fats, And I think
2:55
encourage people to actually, if they're really
2:57
struggling with weight or metabolism or have high
2:59
blood sugar insulin, to do a
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ten eighty tox diet, which is basically
3:03
my ten eighty talks, but you can do it for longer.
3:06
The ten days was sort of a a trick. You
3:08
you wanna get people in and try it.
3:10
They'll feel great. They'll stay on it. until you get
3:12
to your ideal weight and metabolism. So that's
3:14
really important. Second thing is
3:16
to really focus on reducing exposure
3:18
to my myeloid toxins. A lot of toxins are
3:20
called Zenobiotics or Zenoestrogens, they're
3:23
essentially foreign molecules that
3:25
make estrogen, they're highly synergistic and
3:27
toxic. So pesticized plastics,
3:29
phthalates, all the stuff that we're exposed to and
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cosmetics, and our water, and our air, and
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our food. in our household
3:36
cleaning products. These are all things that we're
3:38
constantly exposed to, and there's just
3:40
lots of them. So the best way to reduce
3:42
them is to reduce your motors by changing what
3:44
you're using in terms of what you're eating.
3:47
So organic food, ideally,
3:50
filtered water, filtered air in
3:52
your house, having
3:54
the reduction in
3:56
your household cleaning product with toxins. And
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skin care products. And the great resource
4:00
for that is the Environmental Working Group, ewg
4:02
dot org. And they have great guides on SkinBE,
4:05
one of the best skin care products, evernote toxins,
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household cleaning products, food,
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and so forth. So it's really important to reduce your overall
4:11
exposures. Some of those people
4:13
need to address, like, toxic burden. So maybe
4:16
different detoxification programs can help.
4:18
The other thing I really focus on is the gut,
4:20
you know, the gut plays a huge role in
4:22
the cancer
4:24
process. And it's quite
4:26
interesting. There's various bacteria
4:28
in the gut that can actually cause your body
4:31
recirculate estrogen. So
4:33
when you detoxify estrogen and you get
4:35
it through your liver, it essentially
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can be
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excreted and pooped
4:41
out essentially, or there's
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these enzymes called beta glucagonase, which
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comes from kind of nasty bacteria in your gut
4:47
they can unpack the estrogen from their package,
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and then you reabsorb them. And this causes this
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recirculation of estrogen. And we
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see, you know, women, for example, who take antibiotics,
4:56
have high risk of breast cancer, because it changes
4:58
the gut bacteria. So keeping your gut
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healthy, we have something called gut food, which is
5:02
it's like a multilateral gut probiotics,
5:04
probiotics. All that is really
5:06
helpful. Polyphenols to keep your
5:08
gut healthy. So keeping your gut healthy is really important.
5:10
The only thing that's really important is look at your
5:12
methylation status. This is b vitamins
5:15
B6 full IP12. And what we
5:17
need, we really now understand is that there are various
5:19
estrogen metabolites. Some of them
5:21
are
5:21
the pro
5:22
cancer, some of them are anticancer. For
5:25
example, your your body when it
5:27
produces estrogen, it gets detoxified. And there's
5:29
those interesting as estrogen. By the way, they're estrogen's
5:31
Ester Dial, Esterholm, Esterial.
5:34
And Ester Dial is the main one that
5:36
you produce for most of your reproductive
5:38
life. And that gets broken down by
5:40
the liver into two
5:42
estrogens or sixteen count, two
5:44
hydroxy or sixteen hydroxy or four
5:46
methoxy, all the different breakdown products.
5:48
So the the two to sixteen ratio is
5:50
something you can actually measure in the urine. You look at
5:52
the breakdown products in your urine. You see this a high
5:54
level of level two. That's great. that's
5:56
protective anti cancer, high level sixteen,
5:59
not so much. So you look at the ratio
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of that. And the good news is the two you
6:03
can increase by increasing
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Christopher's vegetables and broccoli,
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organic and non GMO soy foods
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like tempeh tofu. you
6:12
can increase it by reducing
6:16
increasing amount of exercise you do.
6:18
So all the there's a lot of things you can do to actually
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boost two hydroxyethrone. That
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should dial sorry. Two hydroxyethrone. But
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if you if you
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actually want to to
6:30
reduce sixteen, you have to deal with this insulin resistance
6:32
stuff in toxic so environmental toxins in
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the whole insulin problem that that actually
6:36
causes a sixteen to go up, which is
6:38
the more dangerous carcinogenic form.
6:40
So you can actually measure these in your urine and you
6:42
can change your diet and your lifestyle. For example,
6:44
there's a broccoli extract called dendomethane or
6:47
OncoPlex because one brand
6:49
of Sulfurphanes, but acylates actually
6:51
boost the this
6:53
two, which is basically
6:56
important for reducing the risk of cancer.
6:58
And these products have been really well studied
7:00
in terms of stroke, cancer, or breast cancer.
7:03
And one of them is made
7:05
made by Johns Hopkins. It's it's
7:07
a the brand is is a Zymogener and Oncoplexis,
7:10
the product. but it's basically group
7:12
distillates and and
7:15
so far things that actually help with this detoxification
7:17
process. Obviously, exercise also
7:19
helps. I mean, stress reduction helps. And I
7:21
think there's some really interesting data around
7:24
trauma and and the expression
7:26
of feelings and anger, and There
7:28
was been some pretty interesting studies looking at
7:30
women with breast cancer. They tend to kind of
7:32
repress their feelings for press anger,
7:35
not really have sort of fully dealt with trauma,
7:37
beat more people pleasers. So
7:39
not being fully expressed also seems to be a
7:41
risk, and there's, you know, obviously, many ways to work
7:43
through that through therapy
7:45
or coaching or
7:46
even novel therapies that are now being used to
7:48
deal with traumas such as sell side in MDMA,
7:50
which I think Zoom will be legalized. So
7:53
that's sort of a big overarching view.
7:55
Taking the vitamins b six, fall, like b
7:57
twelve, making sure you're gonna
7:59
vitamin d, All these are really
8:01
important in terms of reduction of cancer risk. So
8:03
that's sort of high level due
8:05
to mammogram or thermography. I think
8:07
they both have their role But
8:09
I think, you know, it's important
8:11
to get checked regularly. That's the main main
8:13
take home. Howard Bauchner: Great.
8:14
Thank you so much. Thanks for that detailed information.
8:17
And that was that was really
8:19
interesting information about the the supplement
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from John Hopkins. We'll make sure we Mhmm.
8:23
-- for that as well. So thank you.
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Darcy,
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over to you for the next one.
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Yeah. For sure. Thank you for all that.
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So kind of switching gears a little. The
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next question has to do with
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food sensitivities. So it would be helpful to
8:37
kind of give an introduction into what a
8:39
food sensitivity sensitivity is
8:41
versus like an allergy. But the
8:43
question is, Also,
8:45
what food sensitivity
8:47
test would you recommend? And
8:49
of the ones that
8:50
business, like, how do you decide which one's
8:52
the for you. Oh,
8:53
this is a this is a warm haul,
8:56
rapid haul. Very small.
8:58
Let's just sort of distinguish two things. One
9:00
is the fact
9:02
that there are food sensitivities and they're real
9:04
and they exist, and
9:05
then the testing for them. There are two really two separate
9:08
questions. So I'm gonna sort of address them separately.
9:10
The first thing is that, you know, we're all friendly with food allergy.
9:12
That's, you know, a peanut allergy, shelf a
9:14
challenge. That is when
9:16
you get anaphylaxis hives, your
9:18
tongue smells up and you can't breathe that
9:20
life threatening and dangerous. Those
9:22
people know they have it. It happens immediately.
9:24
It's called an IgE
9:27
reaction, which is one type of antibody called IgE
9:29
that your body makes, and you have different antibodies
9:31
for different things. So you have antibodies
9:33
deal with acute infection, you have antibodies
9:35
deal with chronic immunity, in
9:37
a long term immunity
9:39
like IgG. You
9:41
have IgE, which is actually
9:43
for allergy or or dealing with sort
9:45
of parasite stuff and they've got,
9:47
you know, IgM, which
9:49
is more of the acute infection, IgA,
9:52
which lines the the epithelial
9:54
lining of your respiratory tract, your digestive
9:56
tract, the kind of first line of defense. So there are
9:58
all these different divisions of your immune system.
9:59
Most doctors when
10:02
they think of food sensitivity or allergy
10:04
talk about IgE and they'll do skin
10:06
testing, they can do blood testing, and
10:08
you can measure that, and that's fine. that's
10:10
really unusual and rare compared
10:12
to food sensitivities, which are not true
10:14
allergies, but they may be the we call them
10:16
type three. We actually or delayed hypersensitivity
10:19
reactions. So it's IgG
10:20
usually, but but could also
10:22
be IgA. And what happens
10:25
essentially is that your gut and
10:27
your immune system all are connected.
10:29
Sixty to seventy percent of your immune system is
10:31
in your gut. And when
10:33
that lining
10:34
and your gut breaks down, we call it leaky gut.
10:37
Going to the little like the cells sort of come
10:39
apart and the the little tight
10:41
junctions like LEGO connections start
10:42
to break down. Food and
10:45
bacterial, food particles or partially
10:47
digestible food and bacterial products tend to
10:49
leak out and
10:50
cause no significant problems.
10:54
And they leak into your bloodstream,
10:56
which is right underneath your gut, and
10:58
that's where your immune system So all
11:00
the foreign particles
11:02
are not supposed to be there. Your body goes, what is
11:04
this? And starts creating antibodies against them.
11:06
This is called IgG. and that
11:08
creates these low grade sensitivity reactions
11:10
that can be, you know, fatigue, brain
11:12
fog headaches, digestive issues, congestion. I mean,
11:14
I I don't want the other day. She said, well,
11:16
every time I have dairy, I immediately start
11:19
eating dairy and my nose runs. Well, that's
11:21
that's an IgG
11:23
reaction likely, but it's probably a chronic IgG.
11:25
For most IgG reactions, you might not even know
11:27
you might eat something on Monday and on Tuesday you
11:29
have a reaction or your legs swell, your joints,
11:31
or you feel a little tired or your headachey or
11:33
your achey or get a rash or a
11:35
pimple, like you just obviously can't
11:37
tell. And so that's that's
11:39
why an elimination night is the most powerful
11:41
test. If you look at what is the best allergy test
11:43
or food sensitivity test. It's an
11:45
elimination diet, eliminating foods for a
11:47
period of time and then reintroducing them one by
11:49
one to see what happens. that is the
11:51
best. And it's the cheapest, and it works.
11:53
And the ten day detox is a great model for
11:55
that. I've I've wrote that book a long time ago about
11:57
eight years ago, and that has a lot of information
11:59
about how
11:59
to actually do a elimination diet, how to
12:02
add things back in, how to watch for symptoms,
12:04
how to track your symptoms. That's
12:06
really the best because the tests are
12:08
really unreliable There are some that I
12:10
do use, but there there I
12:12
use them in the context of understanding
12:14
the overall picture. because people sometimes
12:16
will see a food sensitivity test. Well, I'm allergic to
12:18
food. I can never have that No. That's
12:20
not the the case. Your your
12:22
your body is telling you that you
12:24
have a leaky gut. So the key is a
12:26
fixture gut. and then you can
12:28
start to tolerate more food. So I used to have a
12:30
terribly heat gun. I fixed it and then, you know,
12:32
before I could barely tolerate anything and now I can
12:34
eat pretty much anything. So when you fix
12:36
your gut, you create resilience and then you're not
12:38
reacting to everything. Now some things might be more
12:40
permanent like Gary or gluten or certain
12:42
things to react to. You have to watch out for
12:44
that. But The main thing is to
12:46
do, elimination diet,
12:48
reintroduction, and pending taxes, really
12:50
a very simple way to do that. far
12:52
as testing goes, I do use certain labs to
12:54
use sirox testing for a bit, which
12:57
is looking at IgG and IgA
12:59
reactions to a whole bunch
13:01
of wheat and glucanogens. So
13:04
we get antibodies to all of those
13:06
antigens and we see what's going on. And
13:08
then we also do cross active foods
13:10
like dairy and other grains and
13:12
soy and rice and eggs and so forth. So those can
13:14
be pretty common. So I do like sirex.
13:16
Immunolabs is pretty good. I've used that
13:18
for years. But again, it's more
13:20
of a sense of, like, when you see thirty reactions,
13:22
it's not that they're really reactive to all those foods,
13:25
is that they essentially have a leaky
13:27
gut. It's the key is to fix the gut And
13:29
that's really the take home message here. I said,
13:31
the flu symptoms are common, they cause
13:33
delayed symptoms, they
13:35
are they're real. And there's been
13:37
some good clinical trials looking at this from being
13:39
on ADD, removing those foods from tests
13:41
and people get better. So
13:43
I think a lot more to learn about it, and there's a lot of
13:45
controversy about it. But I think the main thing is that
13:47
the tests are a guide, not like a
13:49
gospel. I bet if you program them, if you have a peanut
13:51
allergy and it shows up in your blood, than your
13:53
peanut allergy, like a true allergy.
13:55
But this food sensitivity
13:57
test seems a little bit different. And I think just
13:59
people need to
13:59
be a little bit more sort of
14:02
understanding of the context of it all,
14:04
which is that, you know, they really
14:06
mean to
14:07
tell you about how your gut
14:09
is and not so much that you're truly
14:11
allergic or. having a,
14:13
like, a solid fixed reaction that can change
14:15
over time. And I, you know, I had this one
14:17
kid who was severe ADD at, like,
14:19
thirty different food reactions. and
14:21
we fixed his gut and we checked him again. He had,
14:23
like, six mild reactions. So
14:26
the the body will heal and repair and those
14:28
antibodies will come down over time.
14:30
Yeah.
14:31
Well, that's a that's an incredible example,
14:33
and thank you so much for all that information. I
14:35
think that's super, super helpful.
14:37
And
14:38
over to you, Herschel, for the next question.
14:40
Alright.
14:41
So our next question
14:43
comes from a practitioner. So
14:46
Obviously, we have some members of the doctor
14:48
Hamid plus community that are practitioners and
14:50
some members that are not. And so this one is from a
14:52
practitioner, and I'm gonna have to read it off
14:54
because it's kind of long and Obviously,
14:56
this is something you would understand. So
14:58
I so she says, I recently
15:00
ordered a neural zoomer plus lot from
15:02
vibrant clinical laboratories. It resulted
15:04
in a positive B6
15:06
antibody and group A strep antibody
15:09
has Simon addressed treatment
15:11
for either of these in the
15:12
past. Yeah. Of course. So
15:15
first of all, what what
15:17
the the question is about is
15:19
about a test that looks at antibodies
15:22
or reactions to different viruses
15:25
or bacteria. And a lot
15:27
of people have latent infections and
15:30
many viruses out there. HH36
15:32
is one, CMV, EBV,
15:35
there's a whole range of
15:37
these viruses that compended, you know,
15:39
be something we live with, but don't
15:41
cause problems. For
15:43
example, if you get a a
15:46
cold,
15:47
it goes away. You don't care you
15:49
don't carry the virus, but you'll carry antibodies to the
15:52
virus. For example, if you get
15:54
chickenpox when you're younger,
15:56
It probably it doesn't really go
15:58
away. It it hides. And then you get shingled when you're
16:00
older. Or let's say you get
16:03
you
16:03
know, a herpes simplex
16:06
virus. Well, it stays
16:08
in your body, and so maybe
16:10
doesn't ever show up as a cold sore, but when you're
16:12
stressed or when you're tired
16:14
or, you know, something goes wrong,
16:16
you get a cold sore. So that's
16:18
where the virus sort of hides in the body. So
16:20
we manage this very well most of the time,
16:22
but sometimes it can cause chronic fatigue
16:24
or other symptoms and it needs to be
16:27
treated. Groupi strip is a bit different
16:29
tends to be a some an
16:31
infection that can cause various kinds
16:33
of problems with, you know, at
16:35
time of birth or they can cause other issues
16:37
around strep linked to pandas and other
16:39
things, which is a pediatric neurologic
16:42
condition that can be causing OCD that
16:44
comes from chronic strep infections.
16:46
So that's that's kind of
16:48
I I'm very cautious about how I use it, and I
16:50
really take taking care of it with a clinical
16:53
picture. the real question is how do you
16:55
support some of the immune system. So it's
16:57
the usual lifestyle stuff diet, exercise,
16:59
sleep, stress reduction, and then kinda
17:02
go deeper with with immune support.
17:04
There's various kinds of
17:06
herbs. I like transfer factor,
17:08
multi immune, which is essentially AAA
17:11
classroom like product that really helps to
17:13
boost immunity. I also like
17:15
using
17:16
antiviral sometimes
17:18
that are herbal antivirals, how use bimeramide
17:20
formulas or olive leaf extract or
17:22
other antivirals that are herbal.
17:24
Really, we'll use prescription
17:27
antivirus, but sometimes they can be helpful
17:29
depending on the case. What can really be
17:31
helpful is a ozone therapy. So
17:33
intravenous ozone ozone can be
17:35
done either direct directly directly
17:37
at home easily buy a
17:39
machine you can buy for, like, under a
17:41
thousand dollars and it's pretty
17:43
inexpensive. considering how long you can continue
17:45
to do the treatment. Also,
17:48
there's ten pesosome,
17:51
which is very effective. There's also
17:53
peptides, which can be very effective in immunity
17:55
like thymocin alfa one and others
17:57
FL37 that can help with infections.
17:59
exosomes help who are
18:02
another kind of more advanced
18:04
therapy that have to do with providing
18:06
them stem
18:08
cell like products in the body that help immunity.
18:10
So there's a lot of strategy
18:12
we use. Sometimes hyperthermia is
18:14
being used in some countries still with chronic infections
18:16
where they heat your body up to a hundred and seventy degrees,
18:18
like in Mexico and Germany, they have a lot of this. And
18:20
I've had patients who have chronic Lyme or
18:23
tick infections that can be a last resort
18:25
sometimes. So there's a lot of things we
18:27
we use to support the immunity, to
18:29
be antimicrobial, and to
18:31
help kind of sort through it all. Well,
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