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Off top, guess what? The vanilla snack
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Charlie Kravitz is back. So
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Charlie, I
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got wind of a DM sent
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by someone who thinks you're
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cute. Put it up. Let's take a
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look at, oh, there it is. It
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says, I like the guy. Ask
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Dom off he's single and how old? So
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sorry to disappoint all the fans out
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there. Charlie is not single. He's happily
0:25
engaged. And I don't know how
0:27
old Charlie is, 30 something? Curls
0:29
for the girl star. You got the curls, I got the girls going
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nuts. Play music. This is the
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Dominique Foxworth show. All right.
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The Dominique Foxworth show welcomes you all here.
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And also I'm so honored to be here
0:45
with Charlie, the snack attack Kravitz. Why are
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you not saying anything? She's so quiet. You're
0:49
not flattered. I hate you. Why you hate
0:52
me? I just, I mean, it's important.
0:54
This is something who were people who have been with
0:56
us since the beginning. Remember how when
0:58
you first got on screen, everybody,
1:00
well not everybody, but a lot of people were
1:02
surprised that Charlie,
1:04
you remember that's how you got the name, the vanilla
1:06
snack. It's true. So I'm supposed to just let a
1:09
DM come my way where people are trying to holler
1:11
at the snack and not bring it to the- It
1:13
didn't come your way. It did come my way. It
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came my way via a friend.
1:18
So someone posted a video. Ashley's
1:21
cousin's friend. So Ashley's cousin posted
1:23
a video and her friend said,
1:26
who that is. Send a video.
1:29
Yeah. And she only, I mean, she
1:31
only dates black guys. So congratulations to you. You crossed over.
1:34
Thank you. The average of this podcast. Should
1:38
we talk about some playoff basketball? Yes. We
1:41
should talk about playoff basketball and eventually get to
1:43
some playoffs to pearly to. That's right. Yep.
1:46
We, we gotta start with the Knicks. My
1:48
Knicks. Your Knicks. Our New York Knicks. You
1:51
stole my thunder. I had to
1:53
have my Knicks. I
1:56
think everyone outside of Indianapolis is enjoying or outside
1:58
of Indiana is enjoying the Knicks. Everyone except for
2:00
Reggie Miller. But
2:03
they won game two. They're up 2-0 in the
2:06
second round against the Indiana Pacers. They
2:08
are walking wounded. OG
2:11
Ananobi went out with a pulled hamstring.
2:13
Brunson's got a foot. He's
2:16
a foot thing. He's got a foot thing. They're
2:19
missing Mitchell Robinson who has stress fracture to his
2:21
ankle. Boyan Bogdanovich is injured.
2:24
Julius Randall is out. Josh Hart
2:26
is praying before games because he's
2:28
concerned about surviving all the minutes
2:30
that are given to him by
2:32
the great Thebes. He
2:34
broke a record for most minutes played
2:37
in the last eight playoff games. It
2:39
was a record, 373 minutes. He
2:42
broke a Wilt Chamberlain record. Don't go
2:44
get broken. Those don't get broken. That's
2:47
ridiculous. But I think it should be Thebes'
2:49
record, honestly. But okay, go ahead. Thebes
2:52
gets the placards for it. Well,
2:54
how should the Knicks feel after their game two win? I
2:57
mean, basking the joy that
3:00
is the Knicks. I mean, they've
3:04
had these guys who we thought were role
3:06
players step up in a big way. So
3:08
I don't think it's completely over for them.
3:10
I mean, they're up two. Oh, so like
3:12
you would expect them to win. But I
3:14
think the general sentiment is things are gonna
3:16
change when they don't have Jaylen Brunson who's
3:19
been scoring 40 points every game
3:21
except for this last one. And this last one
3:23
is only because he was out for extended time.
3:25
Quarter and a half. 29 points and
3:27
two and a half quarters. Yeah, because of the
3:29
injury. So it's a
3:31
tough feeling. The concern is like
3:33
how bad is the foot? Like they
3:36
could survive a game or two
3:38
as long as they could get Brunson back at
3:40
some point at good enough shape
3:42
and still win. But I don't
3:45
know. It feels like found
3:47
money, which it shouldn't because they advanced to the second
3:49
round last year. But I don't think
3:51
anybody would be disappointed if they come short. It's one of
3:53
those teams that rarely are
3:56
associated with big cities, but
3:58
it's one of those teams where they're...
4:00
underdog-ish and everyone kind of loved him. So it's
4:02
a fun story. I don't think there's any downside I
4:04
know they don't think this They
4:06
are playing on going to the championship and winning
4:08
championship because athletes are delusional I was one I
4:10
can tell you but it's still a
4:12
good I mean, they're in a good spot I mean, Galen
4:15
Brunson is gonna play game three. You
4:17
think so? Oh, yeah. Okay, you're gonna have
4:19
to drag that man off the court to not let him play
4:21
I Think
4:25
that their feeling of joy is very
4:27
tenuous. Yeah It's very
4:29
immediate but like I think that Tibbs
4:32
is Partially to blame for
4:34
these injuries I think the minute load and
4:36
the fact that he didn't figure
4:38
out ways to like get Josh hard
4:40
arrest get Jalen Brunson more Rest is
4:43
a little bit nuts. It's history repeating itself Yeah,
4:46
of course Jimmy Butler got the second
4:48
act but that's what he did
4:50
to Jimmy Butler and like turned his injured
4:53
his knees and did Joakim Noah's career and
4:55
did Derek Rose's career really early and Now
4:57
we're seeing it with Hart Brunson,
4:59
even Chenzo and an obi these
5:01
guys It's one thing
5:03
to play in 42 minutes. It's another thing to
5:05
just grind them into the ground like this You
5:07
know, I have a contrarian streak so I want
5:10
to defend Tibbs and point out
5:12
that there are lots of injuries around
5:14
the playoffs and this is just what's
5:16
happening with basketball now, but I can't
5:18
when you go down the the list
5:20
of names like I want to point
5:22
to in beat I want to point
5:25
to Giannis and and Dame But
5:28
you named it what you do Like
5:30
it's a lot and it seems like and then you
5:32
went back into history It does seem like something that
5:34
comes with the Tibbs thing So I'm not sure if
5:36
you can blame Tibbs if you know, that's what you're
5:38
signing up for So I don't
5:41
know you want to blame Leon Rose or whoever
5:43
hired him, but you know, that's what you're getting
5:45
with Tibbs I Mean, yes But it's also
5:47
like or Jim Dolan You know like when you get a
5:49
when you get like a dog and like they get near
5:51
the oven the first time. like what's this? No, get away
5:53
from the oven dog. It's hot, You'll burn yourself. I
6:00
guess you can get your head out of
6:02
the oven to I guess you. However, if
6:04
you have a dog. Who. Keeps
6:07
going important his face on the oven seven
6:09
times in a row is your fault for leave
6:11
it to rent a house alone with the oven
6:13
or what like it's as if I were
6:15
to put Kurt Tippett a crate or already
6:17
to put like what of baby gates what a
6:19
baby day around of it as a weird
6:21
analogy because I didn't own a dog my
6:23
dog remember method of well have a dog now
6:26
but my dog have never been interested in
6:28
of and like alamo to it up soon
6:30
they do supply best served by the of in
6:32
caves or disregarded toilet bowl at it as a
6:34
dog that I get access he tips tearing.
6:36
Up she says she does that
6:38
where the suits your of yes.
6:41
Or no is do think this is
6:43
possible. I guess that's the question is.
6:46
A. Tip: Supporter. Would.
6:49
Argue that this is the way that
6:51
he knows how to win and you
6:53
can't argue with the results. The sad
6:55
part is the results of their up
6:57
to zero in their down five players.
6:59
Yeah so those are there was an
7:01
dared to me clearly the better team.
7:04
And. I don't think that. Is.
7:06
A situation we have the clear better team
7:08
the by far the best player in the
7:10
series and you're up to our you should
7:12
feel like incredibly confident in this series is
7:14
is something I don't feeling that they're probably
7:17
confident that wants a boy from them besides
7:19
thing too is that bait the bees players
7:21
are not outside it Zealand Brunson. Like.
7:23
I understand like when you're when we had to
7:25
do in a know a joke it's minutes like
7:27
a good bet that's a hard you can find
7:30
a way to steal. You'll get some rest because
7:32
the team is entirely different Le Bron in his
7:34
prime or Le Bron right now to they have
7:36
a second ball handler are legitimate one i guess
7:38
de la but anyway those that have invested they
7:40
nothing of confusing. To. Me about Tibbs
7:43
is is Cb pretty easy like
7:45
me? Bride is functional like it'd
7:47
be pretty easy to figure out
7:49
ways to steal a couple minutes
7:51
here and there for like d
7:53
Vincenzo and Josh heart like small
7:55
that's the thing. And like the
7:57
Bronson South I mean. Prices.
7:59
Turn. You're paying into the most
8:01
exciting sorry to come in in
8:03
India into these are conference in
8:05
a while. I get his must
8:08
watch with the Msc crowd and
8:10
Bransons Willis read moment hobbling out
8:12
there on one foot and making
8:14
everything. I mean it's we're going
8:16
out and expect him to score
8:18
forty every night that he. Has
8:20
been. The best player in
8:22
Eastern conference. I know that I'm
8:24
into line with like Thirty six Britain Where Absurd.
8:27
I had a random question for you. Brought.
8:30
His career. I'm trying to figure who to
8:32
compare it to, but. I
8:35
I know love it so. but right
8:37
now that I've got to figure out
8:40
like who who's won a championship career
8:42
when I trade and to have bread
8:44
since career because being the underdog man
8:46
who made New York relevant for the
8:49
first times and thirty years or I'm
8:51
in. Guess not thirty years, but first
8:53
time since almost thirty years. Carmelo for
8:55
this is that's the one. Yeah, would
8:58
you rather have Mellas career bronzes Fair.
9:01
I mean, I'd much rather. Be.
9:04
Brunson in New York and Carmelo yeah I mean
9:06
come out career is pretty great, but he didn't
9:08
win a championship. Or
9:11
now the fact that he is the king
9:13
a New York is pretty freaky great for
9:15
for getting to the second round twice he
9:17
lipid to be on his more playoff wins
9:19
and then mellow already. I mean the thing
9:21
about it is like. Branson,
9:24
Has done. And. with his
9:27
developments unbelievable his enough top
9:29
five Mb Fi finisher but.
9:32
I've. Never seen anything like the Bronson heart
9:34
David Jones Think they picked up exactly
9:36
where they left off on a college
9:38
team. And it just works the
9:40
same way. They play the same way. They
9:42
assume the same roles a given Senza. Didn't.
9:45
Have this role and golden state or
9:47
malachy he's not creating for himself. Josh
9:49
for it is like and mean. obviously
9:52
the rebounding and stuff but he looks like
9:55
bulls jimmy butler he looks like college shush
9:57
heart where he was just this dominant physical
9:59
guy a And I think a lot of that trickles
10:02
down from Brunson because yeah,
10:04
he's an incredible superstar scorer in a way
10:06
that's surprising to people because of his height
10:08
and his build. But he's obviously
10:10
clearly empowering teammates. Like actually, he's
10:13
trusting them to create for themselves. How could
10:15
people be so dumb to doubt Jalen Brunson
10:17
just because of his body type? Small-minded
10:21
people. Do you remember the days when people
10:23
were on this network crushing the contract he
10:25
signed with the Knicks? I do remember those
10:28
days. How could you spend $100 million on
10:30
Jalen Brunson? He's
10:32
the 15th best point guard in the NBA.
10:36
The going rate is almost twice that. And
10:38
you know what? He's one of the six
10:40
or seven best guys in the league, period. The thing
10:42
that the kind of bigger picture thing that you and
10:44
I have been tiptoeing around a
10:46
lot more and more this season is
10:50
like the way situation
10:52
matters in basketball in a way that we
10:54
never really considered it before. And we've always
10:56
kind of talked about basketball players as like
10:59
they're the players they're going to be. And
11:01
we don't appreciate that the
11:04
situation giving them the opportunity, giving
11:06
them the right players could open
11:08
something up. And so while you're
11:10
right, Brunson has his leadership has
11:12
allowed some of these guys to
11:14
flourish. I do think these guys
11:16
in this situation and frankly, just giving him
11:19
the franchise in a way that I
11:22
think SGA is another example of that where he
11:24
was. He wasn't going to be given the franchise
11:26
in LA for the Clippers. Then he comes to
11:29
OKC, they give him the franchise. It allows him to flourish.
11:31
The same thing with Maxie. They get rid of Harden. All
11:33
of a sudden he flourishes. I think we'll get into some
11:35
of these players a little bit more later. But I think
11:37
that's the biggest takeaway for me in watching
11:40
this Brunson thing is we
11:43
don't know exactly what
11:45
these players are. All of
11:47
them outside of the situation that they're in. I mean, I
11:50
got a question for you, but this is sort of pushing it forward
11:52
the next. Some summertime,
11:55
you've just watched this MSG
11:57
crowd. You've watched this next team. The
12:00
Knicks are so cool again. Yeah! But.
12:03
You also noted this chemistries is like really delicate
12:05
thing of course bad at and and obese and
12:07
then when you're brunson I'll be out there there.
12:09
Twenty six and for you get the best basketball.
12:11
Have ended up his career but a huge part
12:13
of this. Is. The chemistry of the
12:16
three Villanova guys. And.
12:18
If you're another star, or if you're Leon
12:20
Rose. Are. You thinking like. Now.
12:22
Or destination. Now we need to go get a guy.
12:24
Are you like. We. Got this because like
12:27
to me it's it's clear coat find a
12:29
way to get Mchale Bridges is the next make
12:31
it developed over for that's not is not
12:33
a rigid. it's a ridiculous question asked if they
12:35
want to when it's average bear now when a
12:38
tabriz it with this roster so they're going
12:40
to have to get a guy. I don't know
12:42
Mchale Bridges enough but it's fairly preserve them
12:44
in the right direction. Bites.
12:47
Yeah now now we're talking by die
12:49
and urges I mean tape still be
12:52
to Coats. You. Still got into
12:54
get that conference final with everyone beat
12:56
down and broken so. You
12:58
want to trade coats I would you gotta
13:01
do you have they get on board with
13:03
this or fake it seems like base a
13:05
higher is a good coaches the think you
13:07
may also play don't say up and incredibly
13:09
success. What a number different places but I
13:11
do take I was defending him. But.
13:14
From. Your perspective berries bit of a cap on
13:16
how good a team or how deep a
13:18
team to go. I. Don't know. I
13:20
just think it's like I like a hydrant higher
13:23
risk. It's also just like frustrating that he had
13:25
didn't adapt it all to this for the situation
13:27
I'm that suggested me. that is not something that
13:29
he wants to adapt. To lie down. you think
13:31
it's a problem. Other people think of the problem,
13:34
he thinks it's the right word. Coats? Yeah, and
13:36
I assume that it would be very hard to
13:38
put together a plan for, like when we're going
13:40
to live with our rotation when we were poor
13:43
people. When we're going to put people like that
13:45
can be that hard to protect their minutes in
13:47
that way. And you know what? Maybe.
13:49
Devens heads or doesn't turn into this
13:52
guy. He's not playing forty minutes as
13:54
as twenty two minutes a night? Maybe
13:56
maybe.also? have. You
13:58
know people say is so the play every
14:00
play like is your last isn't It does
14:02
feel like tubes coaches every minute. Like is
14:04
the female minutes of a game seven and
14:06
M B A finals like I gotta have
14:08
all my dad's out there. I'll buy the
14:10
I love how you I. Have
14:13
taken on the reseller of now watching every shot
14:15
to see if it's going to go for and
14:17
calling a plethora but it leaves their hand I
14:20
do Any dude you've had the first the you
14:22
to this morning was when he walked watched even
14:24
said the you now assume every single shots go
14:26
again it's so weird is is a weird things
14:28
like listening to refill I heard him say that
14:30
he he got a broad of the thing that
14:33
we all experience yep that like when a guy
14:35
takes a sad you have a feeling. When.
14:37
It's going in or not. And.
14:41
There. Was a time when dividends or to
14:43
decide another I will see. Now.
14:45
He pulls it off the lights or if
14:47
he'll step is spill like clay This a
14:49
better example like oh yeah that's going to
14:51
which is a weird thing and has happened
14:53
in a court of his play ah yes
14:55
like the beginning of play off his it
14:57
is struggling a bit too familiar with the
14:59
a couple a couple better but then it's
15:01
just like every slot is buried and josh
15:03
heart similar thing the seen. These
15:06
are guys that were never thought of as
15:08
like. Big. Three years
15:10
Attleborough was there on the verge of a
15:12
bit. Be doubly are that to this team?
15:14
Yeah. Even if they aren't all that
15:16
on that level consistently they're about to this
15:18
thing you do. The number one guy who
15:20
anytime he released the by those going in
15:22
was rattling. From.
15:26
Eight to sixteen feet. Shaun Livingston says
15:28
that he's never miss one of those
15:31
shots in history says aboard Zoc don't
15:33
know that who. So who's the suitor?
15:35
Who the suit Or that when elect
15:37
their hands You always thought I was
15:39
thinking cause your age be Ray Allen
15:42
Mccurry a yeah Curry Curries Madness Nefarious.
15:44
Bobby's one. I mean. It's
15:46
it's Shaun Livingston. as obvious as
15:48
the only whatever thy bad. Game
15:51
gets brought up. I be added of he's
15:53
ever miss one of us as he might
15:56
have shot like ten thousand for ten thousand
15:58
and from eight to sixteen feet. Mark Pryor
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or Crisis. Group. Where John
16:02
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16:04
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19:19
fast that we forget moments and I
19:21
liked the idea that right now at
19:23
this point it's not over. We're gonna
19:26
take an inventory to like try to
19:28
make this stick in my brain. Who
19:30
had five years from now? we're doing
19:32
this so I'll be like is about
19:34
me up Yep. I prefer first
19:36
draft of our twenty twenty four and
19:38
be a plan for your buck. How
19:40
I literally thought your it? Answer that
19:42
question being feel like you know I
19:44
like superlatives because it means we're not
19:46
drafting something I would go to go
19:48
there or go with because I am
19:50
superlative. As a compliment
19:52
and on. The. Can be or
19:55
to do a massive insult or other with.
19:57
Our. Biggest surprise. Ah,
20:00
air the liar I think.
20:03
I. Have to be honest, I've been. Spin.
20:05
The first part as large as singing
20:08
jail in Brazil for praises. I have
20:10
to be honest, he's been the biggest
20:12
surprise. Me: The A The haters there
20:15
were talking about earlier that were a
20:17
hating on him because of his body
20:19
type. As most of the listeners know,
20:21
I am one of those haters who
20:24
M O is obsessed with. Ah, not
20:26
obsessed by its weight. Atlanticism. And
20:29
by tests higher than most and I
20:31
think it's served me well. Third, a
20:33
history of and be A but I've
20:35
been dead wrong about Jail and Bronson,
20:37
and it's been fine to be wrong
20:40
to watch Kyle Lowry number two out
20:42
there giving them the work. I.
20:45
Love that he's on a higher level. the not
20:47
as an insult said Kyle Lowry but out the
20:50
first further I've been gov school. Also be like
20:52
a fire today is a been insane down be
20:54
and cause it's. So
20:56
early enough for my biggest surprise. and
20:58
haven't I've an honorable mention than my
21:01
choice of anarchy breaking the rules of
21:03
Uncle Medicine for Vegas rest Slightly less
21:05
surprising, parker. I'm. Going
21:07
to try and say this in at a
21:09
nice way Be audible. Magid is Lcs. Kyrie
21:12
Irving's research. oh about your the go
21:14
ahead or out I or is it
21:16
okay along now I bet I'd that
21:18
on the basketball court. I did know
21:20
for area see this version of a
21:22
read and as like this compose sex
21:24
second option who is like. Really?
21:26
Supportive of a as right I'll jerry and
21:28
injured injured Luca. but I mean for though
21:31
I got Mavericks runs he's really like understood
21:33
how the team flows and that the up
21:35
and slurs and obviously off the court. he
21:37
sounds completely different than he did for a
21:39
couple of his years of his struggles shall
21:41
we say. The biggest
21:44
surprise to me though? Has
21:46
been. To. Nuggets folding in
21:48
the postseason. I'm.
21:51
Really yes I'm just really surprised by the
21:53
lack of composure and obvious think he come
21:55
back and when that the the series against
21:57
the temples and I was like a a
21:59
killer. A big old dummy com. But
22:01
yes, it's really surprising to me because you
22:04
know you have an all timer neo kids.
22:06
You have a team with a lot of
22:08
continuity. And
22:10
it's not just the Timbral series it was seeing
22:13
them try and flip the switch against the Lakers
22:15
every single game, rather just be like. Now.
22:17
Where this team we're going to roll this
22:19
and sort of old stiff Lakers team out
22:21
of the building com that earning to me
22:23
the Lakers serialised looks a lot more embarrassing
22:25
or nightmares and looks like as a lot
22:28
tougher now. Than. It did at a
22:30
time I was unwilling to buy into it
22:32
being a tough series when they swept him.
22:34
But now the issues that they had as
22:36
series are like magnifies I. I get bets,
22:38
I feel like I feel responsible or feel
22:41
like I need to point out that. Hangover.
22:44
All of these. Is happy
22:46
day I was in the wolves Kind of
22:48
because like. We. Could have
22:50
definitely put them for biggest surprise
22:52
to light that. No one expected
22:54
it. We all kind of talked about in said
22:57
maybe but no one expected a way with next.
22:59
Next. On. Now. You don't
23:01
hate her back. Most disappointing I am
23:03
a pre take the from you so
23:05
that I can be more gentle. The
23:09
Sun was going to pick up really only
23:11
can think of death the Sun's at. They've
23:13
been incredibly disappointing. They were favored to beat
23:15
the Wolves before that there's and as I
23:17
think a winning record maybe are undefeated. Guess
23:19
it wasn't a regular swept him in the
23:21
season. Yeah, they were a team that was
23:24
really exciting and off season because they got
23:26
all the stars together and then they had
23:28
a unhealthy regular season. But we all kind
23:30
of. Assumed that be stars would come
23:32
together beal and Booker and Durant's and
23:34
at least get out of the first
23:37
round. It's hard to think of something
23:39
more disappointing then. Not. That.
23:41
They loss in the first round. although
23:43
that is disappointing better than gets you
23:46
to most disappointing would get see. The
23:48
most disappointing is how they lost Gone
23:50
as sad as they went else so
23:53
sad and got swept and embarrassing seemed
23:55
outmatched the whole damn so as muscle
23:57
man start hating on a coach. This
24:00
blaming everybody on a way out is a bad
24:02
luck. Clear to me like Edwards emergence who had
24:04
them he he's a me. A theme throughout all
24:06
the air has made it look like a lot
24:08
better. I Kiss and what they've done the first,
24:10
against and against. Recent
24:15
run back of the Helix road Warrior sticks
24:17
himself around the edges great Now those are
24:19
why not I like best. Can we just
24:21
flat in here have one more subversive when
24:23
I'm Ira will keep ago and I don't
24:25
know all your brothers but I'm going to
24:27
make sure that we get her mom and
24:29
an example our going to get tired of
24:31
other my most disappointing. The. Los
24:34
Angeles Clippers, That
24:36
series. Was
24:38
a catastrophe. F it was a
24:41
catastrophe. It's their offense. Without.
24:43
Cool. I leonard. Is absolutely putrid
24:45
in the way they close at. That
24:47
series is has been a five year
24:50
run where they traded seven first round
24:52
picks. it's a gorgeous Alexander for Paul
24:54
George were censored the signing choir Leonard
24:56
The then traded for James Harden which
24:58
worked for about five minutes where they're
25:00
great and February. Westbrook
25:02
went off the deep end in the post
25:05
they don't do They have no team continuity.
25:07
Paul George's probably leave. This
25:09
run is. It's. Hard
25:11
on her. Yes. And either they're gonna win the
25:13
title and twenty twenty like you look at, those
25:15
two guys quite was the best player on planet
25:17
earth and they've got. Nothing.
25:19
From that group yeah Ah is incredibly disappointing.
25:22
but it's not bad disappointing because isn't it's
25:24
hard to be disappointed by something that are
25:26
not surprised by. Yeah that's why I like
25:28
it is it's bit their whole run. Is.
25:31
Incredibly disappointing, but they fell apart the
25:33
way we suspected him of all the
25:36
bar so it was ugly specially again
25:38
Looking at the mavs in this next
25:40
round look not quite as powerful slice
25:42
having the reverse effect that we had.
25:44
The sun's the outlook I bear little
25:47
bit better because the wolves are so
25:49
good against the nuggets. The ah, the
25:51
clippers look a little bit worse because
25:53
the mavs are struggling in an exam
25:55
as a part of it for me
25:58
though is that stretch in Siberia. And
26:00
co I was healthy and play because that's
26:02
a mix. It's a disappointing because. In
26:04
those, but he's never be healthy and. It.
26:06
Sucks because in spurts he can still
26:08
be one of the best guys. We
26:11
ended his daddy or basket making plays
26:13
and the sachem including unstoppable him hanging
26:15
on the ram and order to reduce
26:17
the impact on his knees you ever
26:19
that he like dunked any like home
26:21
where the room for a second alive
26:23
lightly landed that was like the picture
26:26
of flights. the sadness of this like
26:28
of death and I never gone be
26:30
the same and we always imagined maybe
26:32
to get it together for and of
26:34
weeks But adding is clear that. He
26:36
can't go for him. Got em Anita
26:39
Precision Bomber some any of Great career.
26:41
We're Raimi and weirdest Create I like
26:43
to like figure it out because his
26:45
highs were his eyes were in in
26:48
that era of stars on the Mount
26:50
Rushmore with the rant curry Le Bron
26:52
and collide those of the four guys
26:54
have that that's or a generation be
26:57
them none of the volume are counting
26:59
stats and with the heizer and said
27:01
i'm. Most. Likely to win it all. Carvalho
27:04
you slight curve ball on
27:06
the east. The.
27:08
Celtics I'm gonna go that Kirby's that's my
27:11
pick off our really ah mau I why
27:13
you gotta celtics. I mean,
27:15
I think we might be because
27:17
of the east lack of competition.
27:20
Be. Underwriting the fact that this team. Gray.
27:22
Net Rating: Sixty. Four
27:25
wins. Jayson. Tatum has
27:27
even played well in the post season. Yeah.
27:30
They drop that one game to Miami when
27:32
Miami made twenty three three pointers. but. They're.
27:35
Sort of just rolling and we might look
27:37
up. And like a month and a half
27:39
and the steam is quietly com like sixteen
27:42
and three in the postseason. really? Go. They.
27:44
Really, Were this get all like there?
27:47
Where do you hide against that team?
27:49
There's nowhere to hide defensively. Yeah, they're
27:51
They're a scary group And offensively? yeah,
27:53
wires are hiding suggests you got the
27:56
ball by. Yeah, I'm. By.
27:58
Joe Missoula Man I. The hard
28:00
have imagined Job or Zola don't oppose
28:02
gay press conference covered in champagne. It
28:04
is a it's a weird day and
28:07
him talking about town or whatever to
28:09
be so weird bad at him jumping
28:11
out the blade defense and between our
28:13
time outs gusto Missoula. He seems like
28:15
a cool guy. yes I mean he
28:17
likes get checked out by digits in
28:19
sector. They know that it's a new.
28:22
If. No
28:24
yuk yuks with Max. Next
28:27
one is biggest break out of the postseason
28:29
for you. Go for hours. On
28:31
the minds gonna be jailed Bronson Really?
28:33
Death adder. I know he's a top
28:36
five Mvp candidate and know it was
28:38
my ball last year's. everybody the purses
28:40
last year but. I think
28:42
he's still was. This unassuming India character
28:44
has established himself as like. He's.
28:47
One of the guys now is is
28:49
he's legit. One of the guys like.
28:52
Were. Like a number one that you can win
28:54
with a number one you can win with i
28:56
me I seeming that co I leonard snack in
28:58
a plane the Olympics this year with his knee
29:00
or during the war with his knee and now
29:03
it's like they're given sponsor bronson like he wanted
29:05
to do to should be out there with and
29:07
aliens team bell be out there with and and
29:09
Le Bron in Korean Durant's and those it seems
29:11
like let's go in a gold medal like he's
29:14
establish himself in a different way for like a
29:16
cute story to like. A one.
29:18
Of the dude. to be clear by one
29:20
of the gods what I believe you mean
29:22
is he can be on number one I've
29:25
seen on a championship team. Yes, the and
29:27
as a big that's a big statement. Big
29:29
sap in also like. Now.
29:31
It's not going to be like a pity our he
29:33
did a good side season he deserves like one is
29:35
all and be a spot like now. Now we know
29:37
he's actually good enough easy be defaulted until the this
29:39
past summer going up the not amount that art's well
29:42
I mean. I
29:44
am going to use my sense like
29:46
you used earlier to do an honorable
29:49
mention that because is required because I
29:51
want a crowbar. Tyree smacks the into
29:53
this conversation. Great. A
29:55
because I think that he broke out to
29:57
me as a day. That
30:00
a different level. A. Highlight: We'll see
30:02
how good he was A men in the
30:04
class Mom is of a couple of games
30:06
and adversaries. He did the type of stuff.
30:09
Bet that. One. Of the guys
30:11
that so he's not one of guys yet. but
30:13
I think that break I was real our like
30:15
to give him a little bit of medicine. I
30:17
love I love Terrorists Maxi and I love. Watching.
30:20
That taxi or basketball with you because
30:23
you have preconceived notion of of about
30:25
types of ask about. Last I'm A
30:27
I'm not. Only one is everybody saw
30:29
it's Harrys Maxi run around. All fans
30:31
who by but avoid kids? Do you
30:34
possess Bridges are going on as any
30:36
resisted that is Elite Threes fits. Went
30:40
name the super Athletes that also
30:42
said suit great our socks. I
30:44
mean that was like a year
30:46
ago. I don't dare you Not
30:48
it says represents in Aus I
30:50
assume. That he was out there is the
30:52
Arab box on I'm sorry call me crazy.
30:54
it's the best. I loved it. You look
30:56
at you look at undersized shooting guards, the
30:59
way that light Bill Polian looks the quarterbacks
31:01
that is the up a dead cert. I
31:03
know it the I would they shop and
31:05
sorts. the carbide I bow is laudable mess
31:07
with. read by someone of the I'm back
31:09
to to break out of someone who we
31:11
spent a lotta time on is Abigail. Words
31:13
like we're retired Keep dodging the fact that
31:15
he is the Mvp of the playoffs. He
31:17
is the story of the playoffs right now.
31:19
That team is. So yeah, he's a break out. We
31:21
don't have to talk much about it because we have. Every.
31:24
So I'm kinda like past three weeks that
31:27
skyn of a deck and buttress into the
31:29
next one which was the be able which
31:31
is my pick for the biggest story of
31:33
the post season in for me that's with
31:35
years the as the Edwards breakouts. But.
31:39
He's the guy them like like win
31:41
or lose the series. He's.
31:43
Gonna go into next season. The Mvp favorites. He's
31:45
got like a real chance to be like the
31:47
next grade America player. We talked on the spot
31:49
catholics five times over the last two years. That
31:52
will that When will the next America be the
31:54
best player in the world? Is it? you don't?
31:56
Might be right now. If a kid's like really
31:58
right be might be right down. Yeah,
32:01
the basketball but like it's also like
32:03
the maturity and like the way he's
32:05
transformed the teams persona. Like I know,
32:08
That stuff is all very nebulous in
32:10
could be like be as it's not
32:13
with him, doesn't feel it is not
32:15
with him a basketball teams take on
32:17
the personality of their star and seeing
32:19
that happened with Edwards is so cool.
32:21
Yeah are transition into might have a
32:23
similar it's the biggest or for me
32:25
has been there like more physical ninety
32:28
style of play and the mid range
32:30
of Abby Edwards in the physical play
32:32
of the of the Wolves as been
32:34
something that I enjoyed and a was
32:36
a midseason saints that the league may.
32:38
That we all celebrates and were
32:40
enjoying I think is important. I
32:43
understand that we like offense because
32:45
it's hard when a like offense
32:47
because his offense so like. Yes
32:49
I think it would be foolish
32:52
to say that people turn on
32:54
a Tv to see defense but
32:56
I think defensive like the invisible
32:58
fact there that makes the off
33:00
and special like the intense physical
33:03
defense is what makes us a
33:05
while. That was great. Gone for
33:07
one fifty every night. In every
33:09
other night, someone going for a.
33:12
Career. Record our pr and much fun when
33:14
a half of it from the free throw line
33:16
in the rest of it people don't want to
33:18
towns and because they don't want to send is
33:20
it of redrawn? Yeah. I. Mean, yeah
33:22
none of that. The farmer country being out
33:24
of the game great is great and be
33:26
this is so much better. Watches his gazes
33:29
at least. Somewhat. Restricting if
33:31
afraid of a move in. Having these guys
33:33
be really physicals. Awesome. Next.
33:35
Or favorites in this different than biggest
33:37
story. Yeah favorite story of the first
33:40
is the one that's touched you the
33:42
most. My beloved Young Thunder or love
33:44
them My stole them and I love
33:46
them Dad's They find to see this
33:49
team. Ah a collection of really young
33:51
players and it feels like bag now
33:53
has the opposite. Of the.
33:56
Be. Obscene disease and matt
33:58
in quite six. The way
34:00
since. He'll. Let anybody run all
34:02
but I mean not anybody but Eddie but
34:04
just getting yes and he went where he
34:07
has led. Just get a run is a
34:09
bigger roles but than that it's like help
34:11
develop beloved guard for people sitting next to
34:13
me exact it out there tasted while us
34:16
by watching them do that and obviously as
34:18
the a the best player on that team
34:20
and set is probably the second best player
34:22
on a team. but ah them thrusting. Ah,
34:26
Everyone to contribute a make decisions lou door
34:28
begin a low full of himself I have
34:30
to say that he be acting lobes you
34:32
aggressive are presently but i biggest part of
34:35
it take to go with the bat. I
34:37
mean. To. Big one scout
34:39
leader making jump shots know test the Zulu.
34:41
I'm fine I'm not. Great way where dribbled
34:44
Rob Lowe I'm pretty sure leader to play
34:46
in the Nfl by the way. Stop failed
34:48
lies. I wish I was offended by that
34:50
but I'm not. As is his kids anywhere.
34:52
A conversation yes I agree with I'm having
34:55
basketball. He would. He's
34:57
like a a biscuit the weight room program
34:59
away from to seven this far as since
35:01
a way that athleticism on the D line
35:04
of monster. My.
35:06
Favorite story: The Postseason My
35:08
beloved. Mst crowd the Madison
35:10
there is nothing cooler than they when the
35:13
garden is rock and is one of the
35:15
thing that we've heard all day long as
35:17
I do in Be a that it's best
35:19
when the Knicks are dirt you gotta right.
35:22
When they started chanting seventies an Army and
35:24
out like a football game and game to
35:27
us like this. Rules.
35:29
Is rules when Josh heart
35:31
went to Reggie Miller and
35:33
was like reggie. Their. Says
35:36
you have like this is awesome
35:38
ah this is fine by will
35:40
say that your i'm. You're.
35:42
Hurting the tunis by going to Exotic as
35:44
they cool I can do not get it.
35:47
You're not going to get eighty a mega
35:49
receive any more Dm if you to start
35:51
yelling on this rules as much sexier is
35:53
not as sexy as being cool. That's okay.
35:56
We rated Save More a smack. a bit
35:58
scrappy, a straw player. Ah
36:01
now like I bet all of the next
36:04
exam for daily bread than that. I
36:06
think I know you're going to say one
36:08
of the wolves wings. I can imagine that
36:11
come in I'm go Josh hard to studies
36:13
it'll leave get a bunch of rebounds and
36:15
is very scrappy Josh are I think it's
36:17
I am in credit us picking Josh heart
36:20
and them as a decade. Mcdaniels yeah I
36:22
knew it just hurts the obvious wants to
36:24
Mcdaniels turning into like. This. Guy
36:26
this costar with. with ah.
36:30
And. As while I love it from a
36:32
together, I love that and told you to
36:34
do that. You did it without way to
36:36
respect. The man is his league. He tells
36:38
you, give James in love and you damning
36:40
credit as synaptic and Tt mcconnell. Dot
36:44
they even said that ah a shadow
36:46
why we get we get our serious
36:48
is decreasing the caruso seem at the
36:50
plant the at a rate of I
36:52
am as I am scrappy, a player
36:54
in the plan side of the recesses
36:56
of man four Hours curse. I'm most
36:58
likely to have earned a permanent to
37:00
merit on their legacy. I.
37:03
Get ready, brace yourself. Safe.
37:06
And eight of. Hockey
37:08
say that. I made It's pretty
37:10
easy to say. I
37:13
understand that which you're imagining now going
37:15
to say someone like a D R
37:17
and usual years they katie had never
37:19
never say Katie or M B or
37:21
somebody like that but the fact that
37:23
the matter is. Prior. To
37:25
this season. For.
37:27
Pretty much the entirety of Jayson Tatum
37:29
career. We've been saying he's
37:32
gonna be. One. Of them
37:34
ones. As you mentioned earlier, he's the
37:36
type of guy that can be the
37:38
number one option that take over the
37:40
game. type a gas the centerpiece of
37:43
Ah I team. He has their best
37:45
player but he is. In
37:48
comparison to. Anthony
37:50
Edwards. He. A back.
37:53
So while the merits suggested I'm
37:55
dropping down to the bottom analysts,
37:57
I think I'm finally try coming
37:59
to. That that he's not going to
38:01
even be great feel the hall of famer
38:03
he may when of finals mvp a may
38:05
when a couple championships. I don't even know
38:08
the a win win a league mvp but
38:10
I picked know when a league of the
38:12
this is a Maybe this is just me
38:14
being a little mad that he let me
38:16
down but I think we have to accept
38:18
that at this point in his career he's
38:21
getting close a ceiling and in a. Anthony
38:23
Edwards the still bothers you say they could
38:25
win the title or body of. The fact that
38:27
they can win games easily in the post
38:29
season where he has like six for fifteen is
38:32
not that it bothers me, it's fine, it's
38:34
just that the merit point is I had moved
38:36
him up there to one at M once
38:38
and I think it's clear that is not and
38:40
is and and part. It's clear because I'm
38:42
saying was at when Anthony is dawn and only
38:44
oh yes we'll have like yes and I
38:46
kept. We all kept waiting like days. Are you
38:49
going to do it? You're going to do
38:51
it now. You got it. Got the experience. He's
38:53
been there a couple times, married going to
38:55
do it and. It is
38:57
now but it looks like yeah and it's is
39:00
not going to be that it which is fine
39:02
a big bet We talk about the all time
39:04
like you will be. There's
39:06
only room in the lead for like two of
39:08
those guys are three those guys at any given
39:10
time and so that's my thing as I thought
39:12
he's going to be one of those guys and
39:14
it's It seems that he's going to be like the
39:16
second tier one. yeah which is why I love that
39:19
you keep an honest top five that ten guys
39:21
your top process. I don't know about you but Addis
39:23
Ababa now and I guess the fact that taking him
39:25
out of it as as that I do my
39:27
my wrong like oh don't know I mean it's it's
39:29
going to say on a team as dominate everybody that
39:32
been also pick the win the championship and he's
39:34
the best player on it but it feels through to
39:36
me. Ellie For me, I look at it differently than
39:38
I did before. Disease was is. So it's also hard
39:40
because. For. Most likely they're in
39:42
a permit them at that. That's one that
39:45
can access a complex. Forty four games like
39:47
if you go toe to toe with average
39:49
in the finals is normally like but for
39:51
me. The. One am attack
39:53
in there. I. Know
39:55
that they'll be a million excuses for him. He
39:58
was hurt. He's always hurt his skin. the draw
40:00
a bead. Like they
40:02
went out sad again. He
40:04
was incredibly dirty in that
40:06
series. Like bizarrely.
40:08
Dangerously dirty the entire time. Which has
40:11
been it I'd. A
40:13
trend with him. He talked all that after
40:15
games using that they were the better team.
40:17
They're gonna win the series. He
40:20
was a permanent presumptive mvp before his injury
40:22
hub for had a little bit of Bell's
40:24
palsy. But. If you're
40:27
out there I'm in a judge your performance at
40:29
a little bit of bells. All that's how it
40:31
is reported. Bird said you've got. A
40:37
mild. It's up to retire after like
40:39
two or three. Good laugh at Aren't
40:41
Broken. Out Levy I'd say you
40:43
got a little bit of Bell's palsy. like is not
40:45
a big deal. Lox
40:47
only idea of the add value. My age
40:50
got a little bit of Bell's palsy fight
40:52
through it. I mean. You
40:54
got a little that about far as I
40:56
would that be good to throw. It does
40:58
a lot of get a belt solve it
41:01
it's show the other one of our guys
41:03
have an like. He's. On the
41:05
other side of thirty Two doesn't. Take.
41:08
The best care of his body it
41:10
seems. Basis fitness level at times and.
41:13
He just might never happen. It might
41:15
not ever happened for someone is one
41:17
of the most skilled, powerful big guys
41:19
we've seen on a team that like.
41:22
They. Were run out of excuses not
41:25
sins and different coaches and different coasts
41:27
are players. Com. At some
41:29
point is just. Not going to be. Back.
41:32
As the I think he
41:34
klaus the mid apparatus playoffs
41:36
of. Most. Likely
41:38
gonna when it's every ship at some point
41:40
ten. Most I was matter what is
41:42
it wasn't for me at least yeah he
41:44
someone like I to. I think we talked
41:46
about this like I could see him having
41:48
the second act somewhere else where he's on
41:50
a really good team where he fits any
41:53
success of like older stubbornness there are obvious
41:55
about us not to matters of honest of
41:57
like a stiffer guy who can do all
41:59
these crazy things. Wyden that might be
42:01
his maybe his destiny for wanting to win
42:03
or lose. And on a positive note, Which.
42:06
Is most likely to have earned a permanent
42:08
like check plus an improvement on their on
42:10
their legacy. The I think it's obviously Rudy
42:12
Go Bare and Tim Conway and when a
42:15
group them together because Tim Conway was a
42:17
new Gm and we all roasted him and
42:19
now he seems like. He was
42:21
right into their to the nuggets air
42:23
and vertigo bare like this whole conversation
42:25
already go bare in the reason why
42:27
and golly potteries watch him colleague arrows
42:29
divorce rate of one was you can't
42:31
when it's yeah visit with him because
42:33
he they a off the floor and
42:36
I guess him not playing and game
42:38
to and them still dominating ah hearts
42:40
them a little bit but or hurts
42:42
him a little bit but it does
42:44
feel like it's going to change the
42:46
way we talk about i'm the top
42:48
line on his ah hall aflame place
42:50
is not going. To be started cove ads
42:52
and was annoying and France it's gonna be
42:54
and be a champion in fort and even
42:56
the flair to yeah. I
42:59
love that pick. As probably right
43:01
Pec, I'm gonna pick Adam
43:03
Silver. Oh, because. Of. The
43:05
bathroom dealings after the all star game
43:07
when he changed the rules of the
43:10
end up, the more physical when he
43:12
actually. Made. Something that
43:14
was not just for. Like
43:17
the. In Germany the player he made a
43:19
much better product for the stance as much more
43:21
it's see and allowed much more diverse styles of
43:23
play to be successful in the league and defense
43:25
to be back. Like that. Takes
43:28
some stones to basically be like we need
43:30
to make the scenes now period and obvious
43:32
is. Am sure better Tv product.
43:34
They're going to admit, massive Tv deal is
43:36
more interesting than that's hard to do mid
43:39
season and he did it. Could. I
43:41
am a low see you Adam. People's
43:43
been listening all season. know that? Ah,
43:45
bought a month or two ago you
43:48
destroyed. And address my concern but
43:50
it's must visit which is good for
43:52
you. You're a big mature man by
43:54
do for for that Charlie off bag
43:56
you for being here. Keep.
43:59
Coming. You. Guys want to flirt
44:01
with a smack you he the right
44:03
not available by please give me ammunition
44:06
to make fun of Vanilla. Smack our
44:08
bags zipper. Be here By Due to
44:10
all of our great producers! Kevin Brian,
44:12
Sarafina, Meghan Cortez, The Coward, Fall of
44:14
The Pod, Them and in Miami was
44:16
even a disappointingly expected this. Time
44:20
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