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to talk. Draft Charlie, I get away. We

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gotta talk about some cool young quarterbacks though.

1:13

So a lot of this draft we have

1:15

to start young quarterbacks. I. Guess

1:17

that's turbo next. Michael panics Junior

1:19

very very very harm by a

1:21

we have to start the Qbs

1:23

is hop this draft class because

1:25

that's. What? Everyone wants to know

1:27

how their tiered, how they're grouped, where the

1:29

to go in the draft and Theo I

1:32

wouldn't know how you group them because you've

1:34

got Caleb Drake, may Jane Daniels bow next

1:36

Michael panics, Junior, Jg Mccarthy. All of them

1:38

conceivably could go in the first in the

1:40

first round, but they all fall a different

1:42

buckets with Caleb certainly the top and and

1:45

people beneath them. How do you sort of

1:47

died Delineate those groups. It's

1:50

kind of a harsh grading scale, but for

1:52

me there's two guys that I'm interested in

1:54

in the first round and then I don't

1:57

think the rest profile as. A

1:59

high end franchise. Quarterback That's my current

2:01

stance in the two guys that I

2:03

think have the tools to be all

2:05

pro or. Take. A

2:08

team deep in the playoffs? Whatever you

2:10

wanna designate an elite quarterback as to

2:12

being? I think Caleb is there. And

2:15

I think may as there. And. Then I

2:17

think there is a very very big drop

2:19

off and after that I don't really care

2:21

like there's some good. there's some good shots

2:23

that you can take, maybe fall in love

2:25

with one. Obviously part of being a of

2:27

football team is yeah yeah you narrow it.

2:29

going to get the blue chip quarterback you

2:31

got to develop some pretty big i could

2:34

be developed by and terms of like sure

2:36

fire things that I think can really put

2:38

a team in a backpack and carry them.

2:40

I think caleb in may profile as that

2:42

but everybody else I'm i'm kind of dubious

2:44

are loud charlie as you that question. Already.

2:47

Know an answer because this is really

2:49

where had me excited. Have a joint

2:51

is less game to detain Daniels conversation

2:53

because we've heard. Wilde. Like

2:55

yeah I can probably never to in the

2:57

draft. yeah what I mean. I it seems

2:59

that way because were was in a wind

3:01

got martyrs marionette seems that is I smoke

3:03

around them. One Jane Daniels by. The.

3:08

A. Valuation of him. I've

3:10

never seen such a wide.

3:13

Breadth. Of opinions on a quarterback

3:15

that stuff. Hi I'm address before so

3:17

some people say the best and be

3:19

draft Why this is really just down

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or life is only person who sang

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medicines imagine a draft christians called a

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more and be also said and any

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an hour at first because a draft

3:30

but he still has Calebs better but

3:32

he's like right up there. and then

3:34

there's some people who say he's like

3:36

I've been made tie says nineteen and

3:38

are out of all the players and

3:40

you have their horses evaluation of day

3:42

days. I'm not. Going to pretend like

3:44

I have a bad way to all

3:46

these quarterbacks. I've watched a bunch of

3:48

their games and of was all twenty

3:50

two and I have opinions but none

3:52

as strong as that Once a wise

3:54

Jane Daniels so far as separated from

3:56

those top two for you in are

3:58

you putting other players. If he

4:00

the third quarter back for you, he might still. Yeah,

4:03

I think that he is still the third quarter back

4:05

just because there's no one that I'm really in love

4:07

with. Any does have good tools, but I think there's

4:09

a lot. That. Is.

4:12

Not. Elite about his game. I'll say

4:14

that there's there's not a lot of glaring

4:16

flaws which is nice and I think it's

4:18

floor is pretty high and I think being

4:20

athletic and being able to run make your

4:22

floor pretty high to that word that. You're.

4:25

Rushing game will probably get a huge

4:27

boost and there's so many times where

4:29

he. Is just there

4:31

are mega read option and and man

4:33

on the line of scrimmage just stays

4:35

accounting for him and in the running

4:38

back needs. between that defensive end and

4:40

there's line of scrimmage and it didn't

4:42

Daniels opens up his own whole basically

4:44

so I like that about him. I

4:46

think it's floor is somewhat high. But.

4:49

When I watch him throw the football. I.

4:52

Just I'm not sure what. Traits.

4:55

As a passer. Make.

4:57

Him a lead and I think you'd still need a lot

4:59

of that. So. The his deep

5:02

ball accuracy and I mean I guess as

5:04

won the heisman so we're not going percent

5:06

like is bad and I don't want to

5:08

yet. you and a bad situation. where are

5:10

you suggesting that he's going to be a

5:12

bus and seems pretty clear that you think

5:14

that is floors pretty high he'll be good

5:16

but he doesn't it for you seem like

5:18

like you mentioned a backpack guy and what

5:20

does the is with the depot access because

5:23

that's the thing that I saw when I

5:25

when I wasn't that I was impressed with

5:27

him I just being kind of pool by

5:29

a couple of highlights or gamers. And Brian

5:31

Thomas your is year or is it a

5:33

veggie as early receivers. The.

5:35

Depot Accuracy has always been very good with

5:38

him and that's going back to a Su.

5:40

He actually was my class as you get

5:42

in there and twenty nineteen self that right

5:44

retriever. yeah forks up but he had yet

5:47

I you. He had Ronald Darby who are

5:49

amazing feat threats at that time and now

5:51

he's gone. Moink neighbors and and Brian Thomas

5:53

and I think that is deep. All accuracy

5:55

is quite nice but I always sound twitter

5:58

people. Depot Accuracy is a bit of wide

6:00

receiver stat. If you've got a guy who

6:02

can track it and make and tested catches

6:04

and do all these crazy things down the

6:06

field, you can have a lot of wiggle

6:09

room in terms of where you place that

6:11

thing because there's a lot of time for

6:13

these wide receivers to to run under it

6:15

and there's a lot of you know positioning

6:17

to that has to be fought for and

6:20

a lot of it has to do with

6:22

the wide receiver. And I think I mean

6:24

you can really ask for a better depot

6:26

receiver. Duo them a leak. Neighbors and Bryant

6:28

Thomas are probably the. Two biggest athletic

6:30

freaks and this draft. But it's still

6:33

his best trait. It's. Definitely I

6:35

think high end dad on know if

6:37

it's quite as good as like Stroud

6:39

last year is the ball accuracy but

6:41

it's good. I was so the. I.

6:44

Like the by accuracy of their why receivers

6:46

that deflate sachs our quarterbacks back and steel

6:48

and and I'm using their from here on

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6:56

with the their the issue that.

6:59

Bag. Give you some pause, it's mostly about

7:01

accuracy and animated short areas, or is

7:03

it about decision making package management would?

7:06

Kind of the at the lack of

7:08

the elite thing like I just don't

7:10

know what will set him apart like

7:12

I can look at all the tops

7:14

and quarterbacks drought has accuracy, all levels

7:16

of field, all arm angles. it's crazy

7:18

right? Lamar. He is like Matthew

7:21

Stafford as a passer. Obviously he's got

7:23

the legs and I see a lot

7:25

of comps jaden to Lamar, but Lamar

7:27

doesn't. Care about pressure like it can

7:29

be closing and hills Ill stand there. he'll change

7:31

his arm slot. He'll do whatever has to be

7:33

done to get that ball off. I think he's.

7:36

More. Elastic, he's com or in the

7:38

pocket and I think his arm talent is

7:41

better than were Jaden is didn't is just

7:43

receives I think fine. Marks.

7:45

In all of these areas in

7:47

his accuracy isn't like really notable

7:50

in a you know once you.

7:53

Eliminate. The depot accuracy and that's a little

7:55

bit concerning because he has the great the ball

7:57

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7:59

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the the other two quarterbacks that you do

10:12

see as of Just as that's a major

10:14

way for their as you do see everly

10:16

What are the traits that those two quarterbacks

10:18

have that stand out to you. Tale

10:21

of I don't even know how to describe it.

10:23

It's whatever Russell Wilson had where he can just

10:25

like run around with. It's like. I.

10:28

Don't know if he has adrenaline or

10:30

it that doesn't like affect him. I

10:32

heard Eric photos and co say something

10:34

at one point like pressure bursts. Pipes

10:36

and Taleb it is. Pipes never burst

10:38

like it doesn't matter the situation he

10:40

can be rooting out with his back

10:42

turned to the defense like turn around.

10:44

There's a guy right there in his

10:46

face and he'll just throw a. Thirty.

10:49

Yard touchdown like there's no one there

10:51

at all and he just had to

10:53

diagnose that in a single incident and

10:55

he's under crazy pressure. I One thing

10:57

I love about Caleb is just on

10:59

our p owes. They'll. Be

11:01

a free one are running right Adam and some

11:03

of the arm angles that he had to get.

11:05

These are pure to the flat. You can make

11:07

a whole highlight reel. Of. Them like

11:09

ten minutes long. I've seen employed underhand.

11:12

I've seen him like hit hook shots.

11:14

I've seen him I seriously I like.

11:16

I've seen him jump in like twist

11:18

his body and then. Throw.

11:20

It like over his head. It's it's

11:22

it's like crazy. the stuff that he

11:24

pulls off with pressure in his face

11:26

and he's. Got.

11:29

That to him and then he also because

11:31

he doesn't really care about the pressure. I

11:33

think that also translates to when the pocket

11:35

as constricting or at least it can at

11:37

the Nfl level. Right now everything is kind

11:39

of wide open. He has the green light

11:41

to run around. They.

11:43

Won't be like that at the Nfl level, but

11:45

because he does so well. Under. Pressure

11:47

out of the pocket. I think he can

11:50

do really well under pressure inside the pocket

11:52

as well if is asked to do that

11:54

and then you think about the accuracy which

11:56

is all really high level with him no

11:58

matter the situation. The arm talent. I'm

12:01

comfortable with the with the type of guy

12:03

is in his personality at. I just like

12:05

everything about Caleb Williams really. I think that

12:07

he's. He. Might be hollywood

12:09

like guy. Jail. And Johnson said

12:11

but I mean at I think a little that a

12:13

Hollywood you want your superstars to have that in I'm

12:15

in Canada as about I don't really have too many

12:17

questions with them. The. Of them

12:19

to To be clear, The. First

12:21

person you ever heard say pressure bus

12:24

pipes is sad occhetto thinker. I love

12:26

that he said that I've read a

12:28

paper. it's a common idiom, almost as

12:31

old female I gave visited you've never

12:33

heard of or yeah, I mean we've

12:35

been saying that fit forever high. Like.

12:40

You learn about eat and I learn

12:42

about pressure versus types. Fair

12:45

trade offs are so I'm a drag drag may

12:47

yet what is it was the moon know this

12:49

awesome thing with to me that is passing through

12:51

is that we're seeing like. I. Don't

12:53

have you get around with this happening and other times. It.

12:55

Seem like a to quarterback draft all

12:58

year long. Greg May didn't really do

13:00

anything wrong. He is gigantic, He's mobile,

13:02

he has a big arm, and suddenly

13:04

whether it's a smoke or not, it

13:06

appears he's dropping down drop or as

13:08

you might be behind in Daniels on

13:10

washes board. Some people think he can

13:12

be behind Jg Mccarthy and other boards

13:14

and I don't totally know how. Yeah,

13:16

exactly that you intend to the podcast

13:19

audience. Feel had the

13:21

exact same reaction that I had. It is just

13:23

like I had a solemn had shake to the

13:25

idea of drag. Me over hygiene Mccarthy had

13:27

he sort of. Reconcile.

13:29

With that what is going on with the Drake made Mr.

13:33

I. Think. Part.

13:35

Of it as he played at you and see

13:37

which is not really a football school and I

13:39

don't think many people watched him whereas everybody watched.

13:41

Gg Mccarthy went on national championship and

13:44

and stuff like that. I as I

13:46

just think a lot of people aren't

13:48

super familiar with. Drake.

13:50

Made game, but that can't be true

13:52

of the analysts right now that I'm

13:54

not really sort of the honor managers

13:57

whoever they are general managers ads I

13:59

guess the. About Daniels and Mccarthy,

14:01

maybe they're a little bit cool,

14:04

wicker with some of their stuff,

14:06

then may with the footwork and

14:08

maybe that release. I could see

14:11

from an aesthetic perspective being a

14:13

little bit more comfortable with just

14:15

the way Jaden and especially Jj

14:18

Mccarthy who I think it's fantastic

14:20

mechanics. Robbed like just

14:22

the act of them throwing the

14:24

football and I think that that

14:26

might be what it is, that

14:28

there is something that these gems

14:31

find. Perhaps a little clunky about

14:33

May, which I don't really see,

14:35

but I think that's what it

14:37

is, is it? And then there's

14:39

the accuracy concerns, but his creativity

14:41

is similar to Tale of Williams

14:43

is that they're like superpower that

14:45

you see in him. Also, Yeah,

14:48

I definitely see some. Electric

14:51

ability to make things happen outside of

14:53

structure I've seen him like stiff arm

14:55

somebody with one hand and throw a

14:57

touchdown with his left hand as a

14:59

regular the quarterback that's pretty crazy guys

15:01

to raped all over ham and he

15:03

still is like accurate. He's got the

15:05

arm to make those throws when the

15:07

pocket his. Sentencing.

15:09

And he's fast to. I have seen him

15:11

get to the edge when I thought he

15:13

never would. I think he's got good fiction.

15:15

As a runner he like evil works off

15:17

blockers pretty well that are in front of

15:20

him. He's he's a nice runner and and

15:22

out a structure like he's got the arm

15:24

talent to hit all kinds of crazy things

15:26

are forty yard bomb off his back foot

15:28

versus cleanser. like he's got everything that you

15:30

want to me and he is more of

15:32

like a step up and. Bomb.

15:35

It type of quarterback than my Caden. It's

15:37

like he's not afraid to is kind of

15:39

slide around the pocket instead of. Just.

15:42

Overtly scrambling like and and step up

15:44

and throw any he eats meat checks

15:46

all the boxes. I atkins may see

15:48

what people are saying without like some

15:51

sloppy mechanics are slower mechanics but I

15:53

just think like man it's there's a

15:55

lot of good with him and he

15:57

was getting that done with it. The

16:00

of line that wasn't nearly on the

16:02

level of Jaden said order panics is

16:04

or Jj Mccarthy's right to a first

16:06

round picks across them and. Wide

16:09

receiving corps like yeah Josh Downs but then

16:11

he lost on as he had tons walker

16:13

who is trying to write or not and

16:16

my. Daughter's. Can't

16:18

remember his name but I remember him going

16:20

to the senior bowl and looking like like

16:22

really struggling there amongst his peers. and now

16:24

is trick made like wide receiver one. So

16:27

I think when you look at. Their.

16:29

Offense in general and like what he was

16:31

working with in his skillset. he's clearly number

16:33

two and and to me that silly some

16:35

people like they want i want be I

16:38

think it's one into but yet he dismisses

16:40

In that year with Caleb I think like

16:42

this idea to a guy on a one

16:44

be the same for wanting to morning she

16:46

like for everything I've never had always shied

16:49

away from I think they'll want a want

16:51

the it's like at both wanted to do

16:53

but there are four I'm I'll let you

16:55

go and go Listen to Swerved It. Brief.

16:59

Money. So big, flawless, all the migrate

17:01

the classics, I got a hot take

17:03

that I wanna I wanna throw your

17:06

direction own test this out here. Marvin.

17:09

Harrison. Is. So damn

17:11

good. And. So. Potentially.

17:14

Impact Was a player. I believe that he

17:16

could have the impact on a team. That.

17:20

A number one quarterback and half. I

17:22

think back to occasionally when special players

17:24

come until league. Their impact is such

17:26

that it makes everything around them better.

17:28

We always talk about winning a Super

17:30

Bowl is easier when you have a

17:33

quarterback on a rookie deal. I think

17:35

that's true. But. Also think it's pretty

17:37

easy when you have a future Hall of

17:39

Famer on a rookie deal and someone a

17:41

future Hall of famer at a very important

17:44

position. I think back to Von Miller a

17:46

big factor. Jj Watt. Randy Moss

17:48

and I know all these guys in

17:50

when super both but you drop them

17:53

on a team and a recipe change

17:55

in a way that can only be

17:57

accounted for in our history. Normally with

17:59

quarterback. But sometimes there are players that

18:01

are so special. When I see Marvin Harrison

18:04

have the real complete as we say that

18:06

certain players are complete package but most of

18:08

the time they kind of major in one

18:10

big and Marvin does to bite the precision

18:13

with which he runs his route routes while

18:15

being six five n blazing fast and have

18:17

quickly As I mean maybe he could be

18:20

a little bit better with the ball and

18:22

as and as they kids but for a

18:24

who for what like I watch him play

18:26

and generally take over games you think back

18:29

against high level. Competition like Georgia. Until

18:31

it or not that I gave he

18:33

was winning of a game and I

18:35

think that we are fooling ourselves. Ah,

18:37

as you're not fooling yourself because you

18:39

have two quarterbacks and Ben everyone else

18:41

you slide out of their around. I

18:43

think there's going to be a team

18:45

that decides is a while. I guess

18:48

it's not because Arizona's there, but it

18:50

bears on decides to trade out. That

18:52

be a huge mistake to me. Marvin

18:54

Harrison in my view. I. Believe

18:56

can be dropped on a team

18:58

and have an impact. Close.

19:01

To what you get for having a quality

19:03

quarterback on a rookie deal. I.

19:05

Completely agree. Some guys are just a

19:08

prop power grid and ends. The.

19:10

Electricity flows to everybody around them and it

19:12

makes it all go. And I think that

19:14

there are a couple guys honestly in this

19:16

class that I think are super special and

19:18

I don't say it lightly like. Gold.

19:21

Jacket. Financial. Like this is

19:23

what they look like and Mar Vista the

19:25

best of them. And he got it done

19:27

with Tile Mccord. This dazzly know weakness that

19:29

you can poke in it's game day Stroud

19:32

left it in matters he still balls out

19:34

and and neighbors is fantastic as well. And

19:36

I love Roma doing their butts. Marvin is

19:38

the biggest prize like the most or fire

19:41

thing and I just can't imagine taking a

19:43

quarterback who might. Be. Fine, but

19:45

not. Profile. Is maybe a

19:47

top ten guy over our quarterback who could

19:49

be giving a speech in Canton some day?

19:51

I just I can't think of any world

19:53

where that is into mistake and I think

19:55

that that's what I see on film like

19:57

that would. Very. Possibly be

19:59

what you're doing a few you pass

20:02

on March four one of the other

20:04

quarterbacks if here if you the patriots

20:06

and assuming that make us to which

20:08

is maybe not a safe assumption. Yeah.

20:10

Well, I'm in of May. still around for the

20:13

Patriots. I can understand it, but if it's anybody

20:15

else, Get. Marvin definitely at the

20:17

car knows I understand they have lots

20:19

of other holes. Get that man. Get

20:21

Roman. figure everything else out there. I'm

20:23

sort pair. They have a direct route

20:25

ever. second first round pick anyway like

20:28

wanted him and in and they'll be

20:30

plenty of other opportunities. Yeah, I completely

20:32

agree with you. Like. Especially if

20:34

they trade with the Vikings that like number

20:36

eleven. If you trade like to the giants

20:38

it's six. It's like okay we get a

20:40

good at doing say or neighbors but was

20:42

don't like all the way back as man

20:44

had to see it. I will I appreciate

20:47

it. I'm looking forward to mock draft where

20:49

you are much as you. Do. Comps

20:51

for you eat song for every player who

20:53

had is in the draft or Wisconsin us

20:55

are with so I'm I'm being serious and

20:57

listen to songs suitably. Get off this whereas

20:59

I think. I. Think he started

21:02

the beginning of the album. I think that

21:04

are the a few songs with know that

21:06

Get Ceo in the name I think if

21:08

the that I think it's fair to say

21:10

there's no there's not a lot of Get

21:12

that not have every track in my head

21:14

with another day like five or so I

21:16

think are pretty damn good. I work in

21:18

We Find You yeah you can find me.

21:20

It's the Oh Ash Nfl on Twitter and

21:22

Tic Toc as long as it exists and

21:24

then of course the Stay Hot podcast and

21:26

my buddies Matt and Blade and wherever you

21:28

get your podcasts are the I would do

21:30

this again. Sometime will come back around the

21:33

draft and that will come back and five

21:35

years and see how much eggs a day

21:37

of put on your face because he have

21:39

will see what's the London before are now

21:41

you've yeah I've been married I'm sorry against

21:44

as ours are where our. Had

21:46

yes.