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Hey, Lisa. Hey, Lee. It's good to see you today.
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It's good to see you too. Will you help me with something? Of course.
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I can't remember what day it is. It's Frontal Lobe Friday. Good morning,
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my friend. I hope you're doing well. Dr. Lee Warren here with you, and it is Frontal Lobe Friday.
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Thanks, Lisa, for kicking us off with that. Hey, I've got a short message for
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you today, but I want you to focus, okay?
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Focus on getting your frontal lobes as efficient and effective as you can because
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they are your command center of your brain.
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When your mind directs your frontal lobes properly, your frontal lobes are the
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executive office, the C-suite, the boss of everything else that happens downstream
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in your brain and in your body and in your life.
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It starts with mind, under control of spirit, as we've talked about.
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We are a spirit-mind-down group of self-brain surgeons here.
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We're not determinist reductionists.
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We don't believe that we're all a bunch of neurons firing and that everything
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comes out of electrical processes and we're just a random bunch of events happening
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that have no real underlying purpose or meaning.
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We don't believe that. We're created fearfully and wonderfully in the image
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of the great physician. Hey, today we're going to talk about multitasking and
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why multitasking is a myth and the different ways that it can hurt your life.
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And we're going to understand the way that our frontal lobes are designed to
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help us maximize our efficiency so that we can become healthier and feel better and be happier.
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So we're going to talk about multitasking and the myth behind it.
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But before we do that, I have one question for you.
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Hey, are you ready to change your life? If the answer is yes,
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there's only one rule. You have to change your mind first.
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And my friend, there's a place where the neuroscience of how your mind works
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smashes together with faith and everything starts to make sense.
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Are you ready to change your life? Well, this is the place. Self-Brain Surgery School.
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I'm Dr. Lee Warren, and this is where we go deep into how we're wired.
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Take control of our thinking and find real hope. This is where we learn to become
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healthier, feel better, and be happier. This is where we leave the past behind and transform our minds.
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This is where we start today. Are you ready? This is your podcast.
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This is your place. This is your time, my friend. Let's get after it.
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Music.
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All right, let's get after it. Hey, everybody, and by that I mean everybody
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that I've ever known, including me, thinks that we can multitask.
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We believe that we can do more than one thing at a time. And the truth is you sort of can.
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I mean, you can obviously drive your car and listen to music and talk to the
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person on the phone or check your phone while you're driving.
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You shouldn't do that. You can obviously eat and have a conversation at the
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same time. You can obviously watch television and do a Sudoku puzzle at the
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same time. You can do those things. Okay.
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But are you really doing more than one thing at a time?
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The truth is, from a neuroscience standpoint, you're really not.
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What you're really doing is switching back and forth because your brain can
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only actually do one thing at a time in terms of directed conscious effort.
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Okay. You have a lot of automated processes. Fortunately, our hearts beat,
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we breathe, we have all kinds of autonomic things happening in our bodies that
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we don't have to think about. We have the gift of automated processes, the autonomic nervous system,
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we call it, that keeps things rolling so we don't have to deal with things like,
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do I need to breathe or do I need to worry about the acid production in my stomach?
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Your body's going to take care of a lot of that. that God built you as an incredible
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complex system of multiple different things happening at the same time that
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you don't have to direct. In fact, there's some pathologies. There's a disease called Andean's curse.
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It happens with a small stroke in the brainstem that knocks out automatic breathing.
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So those people literally have to be awake in order to breathe because they
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have to think about every breath that they take. And so those people don't have time to talk to you or think about anything other
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than taking the next breath to keep them alive. And for that reason, they require mechanical ventilation. They require tracheostomies
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and artificial respiration, or they die when they fall asleep.
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And it's not much of a quality of life if all you can do is think about taking your next breath.
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So those people show us that it's not possible to multitask with life or death body parts.
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Fortunately, God created us where those things are kind of automated.
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But the problem is, we think because our frontal lobes are so amazing,
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and because we have the ability to switch back and forth so rapidly between
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multiple things, Thank you. We begin to believe that we actually can have multiple things under our control
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and command at the same time, that we can multitask, and that we're better at
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it than other people, perhaps. Most of us think we're really, really good at multitasking, but all of the research shows,
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Google that, Google neuroscience research related to multitasking,
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and you're going to see that what you really do is shift your focus and your
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attention from one thing to the next. Now, we've been talking about attention and focus a lot lately on this show,
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and I'm writing about it in my new book, Self-Brain Surgery,
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the handbook of self-brain surgery. This is going to be your compendium of all these self-brain surgery operations
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and all the science and all the data behind why we need to change our minds
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if we want to change our lives and why mind is in control of brain and body and ultimately life.
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It's a big deal, okay? But all the research shows that you might think you're
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accomplishing many things at the same time, but what you're really doing is
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switching back and forth. And when we talk about attention and focus, we know that when we pay attention
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to something in a particular way, we have the ability to make that thing more or less real,
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to expand it or reduce it by focusing our brains on it and thinking about it
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in a different way, in the proper way, in the right context.
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But when you shift back and forth from one thing to another, there's a cost to that.
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There's a problem with it. Now, you know this experientially already because
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you've had lunch with somebody that you were really looking forward to catching
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up with, or you have a few moments with your parents or a few moments with your
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kid, and somebody's checking their email the whole time or switching,
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looking at Instagram or Facebook the entire time, and you're having a conversation,
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but they're not with you. You've seen whole families at restaurants where everybody's looking at their phone.
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And yeah, they're in the same place and they're talking amongst themselves and
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they're eating a meal together, but nobody's together because they're all dividing
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their attention and focus with something else.
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And you know when you're on the other side of that table how that feels.
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The person is not really with you.
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They're really in some other mode. They're really in some other world.
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They're really connected with other people instead of with you right then.
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It's not multitasking, okay? It's dividing and reducing the attention and focus that you can pay to a particular thing.
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So people think they can start two projects at the same time that they can drive
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the car and listen to the radio effectively, that they can scroll through social
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media while having a meal with their folks,
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that they can respond properly to emails and work on their computer while they're watching a TV show.
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They can listen to somebody talk while also jotting down some notes about a
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meeting that they have coming up or a to-do list or something else.
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They think, we think, that we can do these things.
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And the real question is, what's the cost? The science shows multitasking takes
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a big toll, a huge hit on productivity.
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When you're doing two things at once, neither of them actually gets done as
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well or as effectively or as sort of efficiently or as accurately as you would like for it to be.
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You'll miss nuance in a conversation with somebody else if you're scrolling on Instagram.
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You will miss nuance and detail in an email that you're writing if you're also
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watching the latest episode of Blue Bloods or whatever it is that you watch
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on your television. Thank you. Research suggests, it's very clear now from the neuroscience research that's
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out there, just Google it, you can find tons of information.
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Multitaskers are more easily distracted. They have trouble focusing their attention
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even when they're not working on multiple tasks at once. Remember one of our
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Ten Commandments of self-brain surgery. What you're doing, you're getting better at. So if you train your brain that
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it needs to be trying to divide its focus and shifting its attention back and forth,
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growth it's going to become better at shifting
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its attention back and forth and the cost of that is it's
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going to become less good it's going
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to become worse at staying focused on
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a particular thing so think about this your kid comes to
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tell you something really important and you try to pay attention to
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them but at the same time you're thinking about this email you just got you're
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thinking about something you need to get done you don't want to forget you're
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thinking about did i post that story on instagram or not and you're not really
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listening even though you're actively not doing more than one thing at a time
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because your brain is ready for that next switch.
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It's looking for the next thing that you've trained it to do by constantly trying to multitask.
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So you become more easily distracted. You have trouble focusing your attention,
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even when you're not trying to multitask.
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So there's a cost to having one foot in one place and another foot in another place.
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So research shows clearly there's a connection between multitasking and easy distractibility.
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And the link basically between those two varies a little bit between person
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to person. So some people are better at it than others.
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But the real question is, do you want to be good at not being very good at the
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thing you're trying to be good at? That sounds pretty heavy, doesn't it? But you train your brain.
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What you're doing, you're getting better at. Here's another thing that research shows.
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Multitasking actually slows you down so that you're slower at each of the things
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that you're trying to do. It's very clear from the science now that if you do one thing until it's done
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and then switch to another thing, you'll be more effective, efficient,
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accurate, and speedy at both things. Okay?
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So, while it seems kind of counterintuitive, you tend to work slower and less
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efficiently. when you multitask.
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There's a thing the psychologists call task switch costs.
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It's what we just talked about. Task switch costs. When you switch,
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your brain has to take a second or a nanosecond or a millisecond or some amount
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of time to re-engage with the current process.
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So there's a task switch cost, a negative effects that comes from switching back and forth.
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You're using some of your microtubules and some of your energy and some of your
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cellular respiration products to re-engage the new task from the one you just
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switched away from instead of just staying focused and getting the task done.
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So in some ways, as we've talked about, you're thinking about thinking about
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the thing for a second before you're actually thinking about the thing,
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which then slows you down. So it actually drains your productivity and the impact that you have on other
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people and sometimes harms the relationship that you have with other people,
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when you try to multitask. When you focus on a single task that you've done before, your brain can sort
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of switch into autopilot. That's synapses, right?
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We talk about how you create synapses to automate processes that your body gets
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good at, but you can't engage synapses if your attention is directed somewhere
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else because you're trying to build new synapses over there.
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So autopilot, synaptic reproduction frees up mental resources,
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but switching back and forth bypasses that process because you've got to re-engage
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conscious effort and thought to re-engage the thing that you switched back to.
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So if you're constantly doing that back and forth, then you have this task switch
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cost that's draining your productivity, efficiency, effectiveness,
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and speed, and harming your relationship with other people.
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Because no matter how many times we do it, nobody likes it when somebody else
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is not paying attention to you. Nobody likes it when somebody else has one foot in your conversation and one
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foot in Facebook. Nobody likes that.
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Multitasking is directed by the frontal lobes, the higher executive functions.
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That's why we're talking about it on Frontal Lobe Friday.
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These tasks, these functions control and manage the cognitive processes and
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determine basically when, how, and in what order certain tasks are performed.
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So you have to choose consciously, which takes effort, to decide what you're
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going to focus on and how you're going to focus on it.
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And when you're going back and forth, you have a constant sort of goal shifting
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and rule activation process that's happening that's requiring you to spend mental
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energy not doing the things you're trying to do, but deciding which one you're going to do.
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So moving through the stages back and forth has a significant cost in terms
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of overall energy, mental drain, you'll be more fatigued, less effective,
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and sometimes actually harmful. Remember our first commandment?
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I will not harm myself. I will relentlessly refuse to participate in my own
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demise. Well, guess what? Multitasking actually causes you to make mistakes. It causes you to harm yourself.
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So I'm not saying don't ever listen to the radio while you drive your car.
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I'm I'm saying you need to be aware that there's a cost to splitting your attention.
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Multitasking, multiple studies have shown, reduces performance,
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decreases GPAs in students who try to study for more than one thing at a time
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or multitask in class, do math homework while they're in their history class.
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They don't do as well on testing as if they just focus on the place and the
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time that they're in right now. Adults, and not just college kids, but adults have lower performance while multitasking.
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We found a study in 2018 showed that adults made a lot more mistakes when driving
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if they're also doing something else. So they're making wrong lane changes without signaling.
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They're missing stop signs. They're missing a turn because they're focused on
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something else, talking on the phone, listening to music, something that's distracting
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them from the task at hand.
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Now, brain function has been shown to be affected negatively by people who constantly
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train their brain to try to multitask. People doing several things at once have cognitive decline faster than those
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who don't engage in that type of behavior.
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And almost everyone that's been studied overestimates their ability to multitask.
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Most of us think we're really good at it. But the truth is the people who do
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it the most are actually worse at it than people who infrequently multitask. Why?
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Because your brain is getting trained to be switching back and forth,
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and that means you're having to think about the fact that you're getting ready
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to switch back and forth, and you're having to use mental resources to pull that off.
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So people who chronically multitask
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also become more impulsive than their
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peers they have lower levels of
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executive control and they're more easily distracted more easily frustrated
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and less effective overall because they tend to downplay the risks associated
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with tackling multiple things at once so you have limited cognitive resources
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we all start with a certain set of cognitive tools,
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and we don't have more than that, and we can't make more than that.
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And when we multitask, we decrease them and make them less effective.
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So we become worse at goal setting, completion, task appropriate,
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choosing of tasks, and completion of those tasks. And we harm relationships.
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So giving you this big picture idea of what our frontal lobes do and how we
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can and mess them up, and now I need to give you some strategies to deal with it.
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Now, I want to bring this home on the spiritual side, because I constantly encourage
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you to spend the first 15 or 20 or 30 minutes of your day with the Lord,
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to learn how to have some quiet time. It's been shown numerous studies that if you spend the first part of your day
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calming your mind, getting your distractions under control, and listening to
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some music, spending some time in the Word, doing some things to prehab for
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your day against the inevitable, traumas and dramas and tragedies and difficulties that we'll have,
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that you have a better relationship not only with God but with other people,
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and you're much more effective at your work when you get that quiet time under
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control. But here's what happens. This happens to me.
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I sit down for my quiet time. I put some headphones on. I play the Bible app,
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and I'm listening to the Bible. And I think, well, while I'm doing that, I'll just check some email.
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While I'm doing that, I'll do this. Then I've got my Bible study happening, but I'm also trying to engage with the outside world.
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And then that means I'm not as effective at listening and letting the word do
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some healing and work on me. Because I'm dividing my brain. Yes, I'm checking the box of spending that time,
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but I'm not really engaged.
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I'm not really engaged in the prayer. I'm not really engaged in worship because
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I'm also trying to do something else.
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This is my problem with churches that have coffee and a donut and all that stuff
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happening and encourage people to use their cell phones to take notes.
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And I don't have a problem with that, but I'm saying a lot of those people,
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they're taking notes on their cell phone, they're drinking a cup of coffee,
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they're eating a donut, they're listening to the worship, and they also,
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well, while I've got my phone open, I need to check this Instagram post.
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I need to check my email real quick, just real quick, because you're taking
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yourself out of worship.
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You're switching from one thing to another, and there's a task switching cost.
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Associated with that. So what do we do?
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Number one, spend some time training your brain to have 20-minute or 15-minute
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or 30-minute chunks of time when you only do one thing.
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It will feel impossible at first, but what you're doing, you're getting better at.
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So use a 20-minute rule, 15-minute rule, 30-minute rule, whatever you want to do.
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Start with five minutes. And I get emails all the time from people that say,
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hey, I'm really trying to take captive all my thoughts, but I'm really struggling.
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I can do it for a little bit and then I fall apart. Well, try it for one minute. Try for one minute. Every thought that pops into
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your head, focus on it, think about it, biopsy it, decide if it's true,
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decide if it's helpful, decide if it's compassionate, and decide how you're
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going to respond to it for one minute and then see how it feels.
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And then you can do two minutes and then you can do five minutes.
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And then before you know it, you're going to have this surprising arrival of
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mastery that we're going to talk about next week on Theology. you Thursday.
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Okay. So number one, limit the number of things that you're willing to try to
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multitask. Make some decisions today.
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I'm going to do this thing, this conversation with my spouse,
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this moment with my child, this time of folding laundry, this time of doing a work project.
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And I'm not going to switch to my email while I'm doing that for 20 minutes.
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I'm not going to check Instagram while I'm having this breakfast with my spouse.
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I'm only going, I'm going to put Put the phone away. I'm going to engage with them for 20 minutes, 15 minutes, 30 minutes, whatever.
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So limit the number of times you switch. That'll train your brain to start paying
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attention and digging in more thoroughly in this moment, at this time,
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with this person, for this purpose, or with God for this time.
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Batch your tasks, okay? Bundle things that you do.
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Like if you're constantly checking email, for example, then do that for 30 minutes.
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Like go, I'm going to spend 30 minutes in email. I'm going to clear everything
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up, send everything, respond to everything. And then I'm not going to check email again until tomorrow or until this afternoon or whatever.
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Email is a highly organized way for other people to set your agenda,
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by the way. Brenda Burchard said that. So batch these things. If you're going to check Instagram, spend 30 minutes
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on Instagram and then don't spend another 30 minutes on it for X number of hours
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or until the next day, right? So you make a deal with yourself.
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You make a vow to yourself that I'm going to do this thing now.
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I'm really going to do it. I'm going to spend some time, make my posts,
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send my emails, do whatever. Then I'm going to switch to that lunch meeting that I have and be a hundred
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percent and present with that person at that time.
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Limit distractions. So don't try to read your Bible while you're listening to music.
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Spend some time with worship music and getting that right half of your brain
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connected, then read your Bible and spend that time with your left language
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cortex digging into the Word and seeing what happens.
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But don't try to do both at the same time.
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And get that mindfulness thing going where you're bringing to mind the things
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that you want your brain to do, like telling your brain, telling your body,
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calming your mind, using your mind to control brain and body.
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And be mindful about the things you're going to do. I'm about to have this conversation.
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I'm going to spend 30 seconds right now before that person gets here and think
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through how that conversation should go. And I'm going to purposely turn my phone off or put it on airplane mode.
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I'm going to purposely set myself up for this conversation, this time, this moment.
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Be as effective as I can be.
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You know what? People will start noticing that when I spend time with her,
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she's really with me. When I spend time with him, he's really there.
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And God will notice too. This has to do with a couple of scriptures.
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Luke 9, 62, Jesus said, this sounds kind of like a harsh teaching,
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but he said, nobody who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom.
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So Jesus is saying right here in this moment, like, hey, I want both hands on the the plow.
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When you're talking about living your life for me, I don't want you looking
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back over your shoulder and trying to be here and be there at the same time.
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He's saying, focus, dig in, commit, follow this plan.
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I want you to plow this row and not be looking back over your shoulder.
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Paul said in Philippians 3.13, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold
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of it, but one thing I do, forgetting what is behind and straining toward what
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is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize, right?
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So he's saying, hey, there's some stuff in your past.
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And if you've been through trauma or major drama or tragedy or some massive
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thing, part of your multitasking might be that you want to be in this moment
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with your family, your friends, your career, your life now.
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But you also constantly want to be in that other moment, in that other place.
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And you're plowing up the ground of that trauma again.
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And what the word would say is that your brain can't actually do both of those
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things at one time, friend.
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And maybe one of the reasons you're not making the kind of progress you want
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to make right now is that you're dividing your mind.
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And it's not time to, I'm not saying you can forget everything.
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I'm not saying you shouldn't work through trying to heal.
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I'm saying the healing process starts with where you are now,
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informed by where you've been and looking forward to where you're going.
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But you got both hands on the plow because guess what? No matter what you've
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been through, your life is now.
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God's got a calling and a purpose for you. Trying to multitask all the time
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is diminishing your effectiveness and resilience and your ability to be here
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now and do the things that you need to do.
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What you'll find is what you're doing, you're getting better at.
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The more you focus on learning how to do one thing at one time until it's done
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right and done well, or until that moment is passed and it's time to do something
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else, you'll be better at all the things that you do.
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And that, my friend, is how you change your mind. And that is how you change your life.
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You don't have to multitask. And the truth is you really can't.
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So let's reduce the amount of time that we're spending in more than one place.
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For doing more than one thing. And let's start doing those things in a way that honors God,
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helps other people, and leads us towards healing, meaning, purpose,
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and yes, maybe hope and happiness again.
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And the good news about all that, my friend, is that we can start today.
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