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Welcome to the Exchange podcast presented

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by wind bet Nick Mangold. Here

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with my with me is my favorite friend

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Mark Sanchez.

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Uh.

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Mark, I thought we'd open today's

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show and discuss

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a little bit of music. Did

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you were you a music guy before

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games? Like a hype up?

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Yes? Oh?

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Yes, okay?

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Did you have I'd have a little playlist.

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Did you have a set playlist or did you have a random

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playlist?

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No, it was set. I had some. I

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had some jams on there.

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Now would you were you like very

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by the book? All right when I'm walking out to

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the field, I need this song on when

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I hit the twenty yard line? Did I

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have this song? Were you like that? Or was it just

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a roll through from like all right, I get into

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the locker room and it's just rolling.

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So I was a little more like that in college

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because the

1:01

pregame was a little

1:03

more of a set routine. I want to say,

1:05

like, right when I got off the bus, the

1:10

Killers when we were young, they would

1:12

hit the guitar a ry, and

1:16

so that was like, I want that happening

1:18

as I'm stepping off the bus about

1:20

to you know, walk through the tunnel of humanity

1:22

and slap hands with everybody and

1:25

then walk down the stadium steps there

1:27

was. This was in oh,

1:30

seven o eight, So.

1:32

Kanye West was going hard at the time,

1:37

and so I had a couple of his songs on there.

1:39

I had some Dave Matthews on there. I had

1:41

some stuff to kind of mellow me out, like Billy Joel.

1:45

But yeah, I had more of a regimented playlist

1:47

by the time we're in New

1:49

York. I felt

1:52

like it just kept adding, Like songs kept

1:54

adding to the list, you

1:56

know, because jay Z comes out with his New York

1:58

song and you know, with

2:00

Alicia Keys on it, and I was like, whoa,

2:02

that's gotta be one.

2:06

I mean, after that, it just kind of took

2:08

on a life of its own and it could kind of change

2:10

every game.

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But there were some staples in there that

2:14

that I appreciated.

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What did you do? I didn't really do the music

2:17

hype up.

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Yeah you weren't. You don't really need

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anything to get your motor going.

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Man, I was on off

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switch. But I did like

2:27

to stay ready, never get ready, damn

2:29

straight. I did like the

2:32

like I would have music. I would have random

2:34

Dave I think playing on the bus right over

2:38

just yeah, because sometimes those bus rides

2:40

can get long. But

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I think as far as like a pump up, like

2:44

get myself going type thing, I

2:47

never really did the music before

2:49

that, Like I'd rather the sound, the sights,

2:51

and the sounds through the locker

2:53

room. Like seeing other guys get hyped up was

2:56

always kind of like interesting and watching

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what you know, different guys were teens and everything,

3:02

you know. And then then for a while we were

3:04

going through a boombox phase and they were like fifteen

3:07

different boomboxes going on, and.

3:09

So it was battle the bands was the worst.

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It was a

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full mixture, I mean, like and guys

3:16

doing it before practice and everything. So

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it was never really my jam. Like I very much

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enjoyed music, and I will admit

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I'm not a music person, like creatively

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can't do any of that business. Uh,

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but I do enjoy it. And it's always always

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kind of awestruck by watching musicians

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and what they do and how how

3:39

they go about their craft because it's something that I

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cannot do whatsoever, and so

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it's always always been

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pretty cool for me. So I think that

3:48

is a great entrance into our

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upcoming guest. You want to take any guests.

3:52

Okay, the only thing I will say about pregame,

3:55

okay, that I didn't appreciate.

3:58

So I try to be just like a one phone

4:00

in guy, okay, because when you have both

4:02

and you're trying to like throw the receivers before

4:05

a game and you give him like a last second

4:07

tip or reminder or you're try and they're

4:10

like, just signal the routes. I'm like, bro, both

4:13

teams are on the field. I don't want to signal

4:15

all our routes number one, number one, number

4:17

two. I can't coach

4:19

you up or the coaches can't say anything because

4:21

you run your route and if you're a yard short and

4:23

they're like, hey, get to fifteen, they're

4:26

like what get to

4:28

fifteen? Fifteen yards? Please?

4:31

What?

4:31

Like come on, dude?

4:32

You know.

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So I tried to be like, you

4:35

know, either keep it in the locker room or one one

4:37

headphone down to guys so you can still interact

4:40

and hear the sights and sounds that you needed to

4:42

pregame. But okay, back to the lead

4:44

end. Are you gonna give me any ends?

4:48

Ummm nope,

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nope. He does everything. So

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he's Oh, he's a rapper,

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he is a producer, he

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is an actor, he's

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done it all and continues to do it

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all and a big Jets fan.

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Okay, anything else, So you're gonna give

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me movies and

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know what? All right, this is spens it over. So we

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have method Man coming in. I'm

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very much to it, and

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I think we should get to it post

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taste. All right, We're gonna bring in rapper,

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producer, longtime Jets fan,

5:29

actor, got the list goes on

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and on.

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It's gonna go on forever. But method

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Man get in here.

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Bro, let's go what's up?

5:37

What's up? Piece

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to the Sanchiz and the legend himself.

5:42

Nick. You know, New York loves the f out of

5:44

you, Bro.

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Thank you, thank you. I like

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this. This is already my favorite guest, already

5:51

done. We can just end now like.

5:57

A slute.

5:58

Yeah. So I gotta ask you, you know,

6:01

starting off this season, and because it's

6:03

fresh in our minds and everything, that Monday night football,

6:05

right we were starting out in the season. The

6:08

stadium was rocking. I was there, You

6:10

were there on the field doing the player

6:13

intros. What experience was that like

6:15

for you? And that the excitement level

6:17

that you felt being in the stadium

6:19

that Monday night?

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Wow, when I first got there, it

6:23

was electric energy, sky

6:25

high. By the time I got to the field,

6:27

bunch of nerves. So

6:31

you know Jess, Jess, who's

6:33

the rep up there. Great girl by the way, great

6:35

lady. She kind of spoke

6:37

talked me through it. And by

6:39

the time I got to the field and

6:42

I started doing the intros, I couldn't

6:44

hear a thing, not a

6:46

thing.

6:47

Yeah, but I

6:49

got through it.

6:50

Some of the guys were coming out, but it wasn't their

6:53

name, but they'll give me a pass for that.

6:56

But by the time we got to ay Rod, it

6:58

was all electric.

6:59

They could they could have cared less if I said his name

7:01

or not, because the stadium went wild.

7:04

Yeah it was. It was, and they had the light show

7:06

and everything going on. Mark, Yeah, a

7:08

good one.

7:09

You missed it, go, but you had a great one. Mark.

7:12

We beat the Patriots on Monday night.

7:18

Moment absolutely

7:21

okay. So you got your your uh,

7:23

Bruce Buffer Michael Buffer on you know, doing

7:26

the intros and all that kind of stuff. You

7:28

know how to do it in front of a big crowd, that's nothing

7:30

new to you. But when you're in an intimate.

7:32

Setting like in Hard Knocks, you're

7:34

on the show and you got to go talk to the team.

7:37

That's a tricky spot, right

7:39

because there's a lot of players, a lot of egos,

7:41

a lot of you know, a lot of stuff going on, and

7:44

yes you're a star, but

7:46

there's other stars around like those are you

7:48

know, some peers and stuff.

7:49

It's like, absolutely, I gotta I

7:51

gotta hit you know, I can't. I can't. I

7:53

can't miss on this quote or anything. So

7:55

you went with the Bill Parcells quote, which I really

7:57

like, Yeah, how did you pick that? How

8:00

do you figure it with? Because I thought it went off well.

8:03

Actually, they asked me if I would do the breakdown

8:06

like ten minutes before it was going to happen, and

8:08

I'm friendick in my.

8:09

Head, like okay, what do I say? What do I

8:11

say? How do I do this?

8:14

And like you said, there's a lot of guys out there, a

8:16

lot of egos, a lot of you know, guys

8:19

that you know, they're stars in their own

8:21

right. So for me, it was like, okay,

8:24

just just deal with the foundation. I'm an old school

8:26

guy. Loved Parcels Tuna when

8:28

he was here. He had a great run with us, you know, even

8:31

though he had to deal with Keishon.

8:32

No, I love Keyshon. I'm sorry. I'm

8:34

sorry. I love him. Boy.

8:37

Yeah, I see I see all day.

8:38

As a matter of fact, me and Reggie Bush born on the same

8:40

day one second, and

8:43

Ben Roethlisberger and Ben big

8:45

Ben two. But where was

8:47

I So, yeah, like ten minutes

8:49

before that, and I remembered that Parcels quote

8:51

when I was watching NFL films and I

8:54

was like, this would be perfect. So I did that

8:56

and it came out better than I thought it would.

8:58

Man, yeah, bro money,

9:00

I mean, I don't know how well they edited,

9:02

because here's my only knock on Hard Knocks

9:05

is the practice I went to the

9:08

night before they aired a show, and then the very

9:10

next day I go to a practice.

9:11

So I watched it, of course, just figuring

9:13

out what's going on. Well, they're throwing

9:15

the ball in the net, you

9:17

know, and nobody misses on

9:20

the show that I got

9:22

to practice that, I asked Aaron, I say, hey, dude,

9:24

what's going on here?

9:25

In the post production? I was

9:27

like, you guys couldn't hit jack today. So

9:29

I was giving them a hard time. But we'll

9:31

just say you hit it one time.

9:33

You know, Yeah, yeah, I

9:35

hit it one time. No, no, that it was perfect. Trust

9:37

me, I hit it one time. I know what you're implying.

9:39

I hit it one time. That's it.

9:42

And I also got to I

9:44

also got to do the prayer with the DBS.

9:47

I'm an unofficial DP for the New York

9:49

Jets.

9:51

Let's go. Is I your position?

9:53

Yes? Unofficial?

9:54

Yes, unofficially dB, even

9:56

though they all those guys have probably got

9:58

tear my MCL trying to keep up with these guys.

10:02

Let's let's take it back

10:04

to the beginning. You grew up

10:07

in Hempstead, Long Island, which

10:09

was right by Hofstra where the Jets

10:11

used to have their training facility. So

10:14

what other than proximity,

10:17

when and why did you get your

10:19

love for the Jets.

10:21

Well, I started playing football at

10:25

ten eleven years old, so now

10:27

I'm interested in the game. And

10:30

we're talking about the years. This was Marcus

10:33

Allen on the Raiders, and you know

10:35

you had the Dan Marino

10:38

with the Miami Dolphins.

10:40

And I believe it was his rookie season when they went

10:42

to the Super Bowl.

10:44

And the Jets were in the

10:46

way and AJ Dewey snatched it away

10:48

from us.

10:50

That's when I really became a Jet

10:52

fan. Not just based off proximity,

10:54

but based off of just how

10:56

hard they fought the New York Sack exchange

10:59

running. We had Freeman McNeil

11:01

I believe at that time. Richard

11:04

Todd was our quarterback, I believe, and

11:06

we just had a lot of grid about us. And that

11:08

was Hempstead Tiger football right

11:11

there. So I've been riding with them since

11:13

ten eleven years old.

11:14

Buddy, for real, love

11:16

it.

11:17

We took you to your first football, Like, whose

11:19

idea.

11:19

Was it to take me to go play

11:21

football?

11:23

The girls in my neighborhood, they was like, stop hanging

11:25

around us, go play with the boys.

11:28

Leave us a low.

11:29

They got football tryouts up at the park

11:32

and I brought my butt up there.

11:33

Yes I did. Actually,

11:35

you know what funny story. Actually

11:39

my football really started.

11:40

I started playing football with the guys around the

11:42

corner who lived around the corner from me, and

11:45

he was and he grew up one of the guys

11:47

that was teaching us how to play, grew up

11:49

to be a jet himself.

11:51

Really come on, yes, Rob

11:53

rob Oh my god, what's his last name?

11:56

I'm so mad?

11:57

Rob Moore from around the corner,

11:59

Rob Moore, Rob Moore, He was a jet

12:01

rewide receiver for a lot of years too,

12:03

man, and he basically taught me the game

12:05

of football.

12:06

We're talking back when he had braces in his mouth.

12:09

Damn, did you think you were going to play ball?

12:11

When he grew up?

12:13

I had aspirations to do it, But then I moved

12:15

to Staten Island and discovered girls and

12:17

you know, just all the other hills of the world.

12:19

And yeah, football was definitely on the

12:21

back burner.

12:22

Since you brought up Staten Island, I wanted to get this in real quick

12:24

because I found a new found love for Staten

12:26

Island, the wild turkeys, the collins

12:29

on the houses and stuff. But

12:32

what's your what's your go to pizza

12:34

spot on Staten Island?

12:36

It used to be Brothers, but now it's Dominico's.

12:39

Dominicos is pretty good.

12:40

Okay, I'll have to check that one out. I'm doing the

12:42

tour through Staten Island right now. My favorite is Donino's,

12:45

big fan of that's good.

12:47

That's yes, sir.

12:49

Everything comes back to food with me. For some reason. I

12:52

don't know, Oh,

12:54

we know why.

12:55

I love it. I love it. I love it all.

12:58

Right, let's okay, ball side, nick

13:01

up? Yeah, So you found the

13:03

love for the Jets and football. Where did

13:05

the love of music, creating

13:08

music being in part of music? Where

13:10

did that? Did that start early on or did that come later

13:12

on in life?

13:13

Very early on? My parents, my parents.

13:15

Basically, I think a lot of people's and music

13:17

influences come from their parents or what their parents.

13:19

Play in the home. And I had a I

13:22

mean, there was.

13:22

A plethora of just different genres

13:25

of music, from Rick Dean's Disco

13:27

Duck to Chuck Berry

13:29

my dinga Ling. I used to play that one all the time,

13:35

from Parliament Funkadelic

13:37

to Hauling Oats.

13:39

You know, we just we just had it all.

13:41

And I was lucky enough

13:43

to hang around a group of guys that

13:46

loved hip hop and actually wrote their own

13:48

music.

13:49

So I gravitated towards that,

13:51

gravitated towards it.

13:55

I'm just curious because you're on the

13:57

front lines of this hip

14:00

movement with wul Tang clan. Like,

14:02

okay, so for a West Coast kid, you

14:05

know, NWA was big for me growing

14:07

up, but you know me too, maybe equivalent

14:10

or at the same you know, it was like whoa, these

14:12

are these guys are monsters,

14:14

Like this is so different from everything. And

14:18

yeah, you get to be

14:20

on the front lines of this movement and

14:23

where it's gone, not just nationally

14:25

but international movement. To know

14:27

that you're like a founding father of rat

14:30

I mean that is That's insane, dude.

14:32

That's gotta feel so good.

14:34

The fact that you know where

14:37

this started from, because this music

14:39

genre was invented by kids, if

14:41

you think about it, kids, and this

14:44

was what came out of the gang

14:46

culture, when the piece happened between

14:48

the gangs and things like that.

14:50

This is the music that grew from that.

14:52

This is the music that grew from the Reagan

14:54

era when cracked decimated the

14:56

urban areas as well as the urban

14:58

family. And this

15:01

music has persevered for years to the

15:03

point where it's not just a billion

15:05

dollar industry but one of the most influential

15:08

genres to date. And

15:10

I'm so pleased to be a part of it,

15:12

not just a part of it, but instrumental in pushing

15:15

the pin forward.

15:17

Yeah, and the culture, but fashion, you

15:19

know, yeah, not just music. I mean

15:21

it's a whole lifestyle.

15:23

Yes, absolutely, And I love the fact that we

15:26

something that we created has created the so

15:28

own identity that has branched off so to

15:30

speak into other places. Now

15:32

everyone loves what we do, or if

15:34

they don't even love it, they respect the hustle

15:38

exactly right.

15:38

Is that something that you felt like as you were starting

15:41

up and getting it going, like hey, we're

15:43

changing things, We're making difference,

15:45

like we're going to be you

15:48

know, huge in this or was it

15:50

just the love of the music and love

15:53

of you know, performing that

15:56

you just enjoyed the ride, or could you feel

15:58

that ground swell like hey, this is something special.

16:01

I would say all of the above because

16:04

I knew what we were doing was different from what anybody

16:06

else was doing. I mean, Staten Island when

16:08

you think about New York, the last place you think of

16:11

when you think of the Five boroughs is Staten

16:13

Island. And that's not a slide against my borough.

16:15

It's just facts.

16:16

So for us knowing that we were different,

16:19

knowing that we were coming with something that nobody else

16:21

had done in that time

16:23

or era, we knew we had something, but

16:25

we did not know how big it would be. Nobody can

16:28

really predict how big anything

16:30

is going to be. But as the will started

16:33

turning and that train started

16:35

picking up speed, it was like, oh, we might

16:37

have something here. And next thing you know, we had

16:39

a few bandwagons attached to it and people

16:41

jumped on those. And now you know

16:44

we're talking what thirty years later, we

16:46

just celebrated our thirty year anniversary. The

16:48

Empire State Building lit up the Empire State

16:51

Building for us in black and yellow, which I

16:53

thought was great. And now there's a Wu Tang Day. November

16:55

ninth is Wu Tang Day in

16:57

New York City.

16:58

I love it.

16:59

I love it.

17:00

Let's go yeah, I love

17:02

that. I guess. So

17:05

how does it go from there? Performing

17:09

you're on tour Wu Tang Clan to

17:12

the wire, how high? Like does

17:14

your agent just know these people?

17:16

Is it like you're just crossing over in

17:19

circles and then you suddenly send in a self tape

17:21

like, how the hell did you get into some

17:23

of the like some of my favorite shows

17:26

or movies or what like?

17:28

How does that even happen?

17:29

Well? I think the star power got me in the

17:31

door, but the talent kept

17:33

me in.

17:35

So you pursued it.

17:36

I didn't actually pursue it. It was kind

17:38

of thrown at me to play myself in one movie.

17:41

And in this one movie, I met

17:43

Jamie Fox, Sam Jackson,

17:46

Peter Berg yeah

17:48

and.

17:49

Peter okay, yeah, yeah, great white hype.

17:51

Yes sir, yes, sir, the great White Hype.

17:53

And after

17:56

that I got booked again in a movie with Sam

17:58

Jackson see The Connection one seven,

18:01

very small part, no speaking, no speaking.

18:04

And then after that got cast in a movie

18:06

called Copland with Peter right

18:10

right, and actually my scene was

18:13

with Pete so that was dope as well. And

18:17

after that it was more or less like, well, I want to do

18:19

my own movie now, and I ran into

18:21

this lady. We were introduced to Shawna

18:24

Garr who's now my partner, and

18:27

she I told her, if you

18:29

can get this ball rolling, I will remain loyal

18:31

to you from now to then. And uh, that's

18:34

when we got the movie How High, me and Red Man.

18:36

After that it was just, you know, all bets were all we to

18:39

do both? Now do both?

18:40

Now? You know?

18:41

I study High take the test?

18:45

Baby? Yeah, yes,

18:47

sir?

18:48

How do you manage that?

18:50

Now?

18:50

You know with your TV show PowerBook two Ghost,

18:54

you know you're going back on tour with Wu Tang

18:56

I believe, is that correct?

18:58

Yes?

18:59

Well, sometimes it conflicts. If I

19:01

can not to cut you off, sometimes it conflicts.

19:03

So there came a moment where the music

19:05

felt like it was

19:08

just drying up. It wasn't enough resources

19:11

in the States for us to survive, meaning

19:14

money the young. There

19:16

was a new error coming in, this young

19:18

error coming in as it should. And these

19:20

kids were savvy, man. I mean they were racking

19:23

up. I'm talking about they were making triple what

19:26

we made back in the day, and that is saying a lot.

19:28

So it wasn't really an audience for us anymore.

19:31

And I still had the acting thing, but I

19:33

wasn't as serious about it as I was planning

19:35

to be. So I decided

19:38

to drop everything over here in the music world concentrate

19:41

on the acting. I slept on my manager's couch

19:43

for at least a month and a half, went

19:46

out on the auditions, started

19:48

my fitness journey, and once

19:50

I got booked, which was a movie called Keanu

19:53

with Key and Peel, I haven't looked

19:55

back, man, I have not looked back, and it's

19:57

been acting since now, going on tour.

19:59

Wou That was convenient

20:02

because there was a strike going on the

20:04

Rightest strike as well as the actors strike. Whereas

20:08

if that strike wouldn't have happened, I probably

20:10

would not have been on that touring.

20:12

Wow, what's your there's so there's

20:14

so many go go what's your favorite thing

20:17

about touring? Like so you said you pulled

20:19

back a little bit and drop back, but now you got

20:21

to do it again, Like was there what stands

20:23

out to you? Like you asked me about

20:25

football. I love playing the games. I

20:28

hate going I hate how I feel the next

20:30

day, but you know I love going to

20:32

the game. So what was what's your

20:34

favorite thing about being on tour?

20:36

Well, my favorite thing about being on tour has to be the

20:38

people, the crowd, because that's that's the

20:41

only reason why even get

20:43

my energy up to go out there and perform like

20:45

I do because the energy they give to

20:47

us, we give it back to them, man. And it's always

20:50

love first and foremost. So I would

20:52

say the highlight of it is the crowd.

20:54

The lows, the travel, the diet,

20:57

the sleep deprivation, the exhaustion.

21:00

But at the end of the day, it's all worth it. It's

21:02

all worth it, man, because these people.

21:05

We have people showing up that are our

21:07

age and they're showing up with their grandkids.

21:10

That is amazing right there, you

21:12

know, So ay ay,

21:16

yeah.

21:16

We saw actually a couple months ago

21:18

for a buddy of mine's birthday one sales in August

21:21

September, right before the season, but fifty

21:24

cent came through with Busts

21:26

the Rhymes and.

21:28

Now one of your partners on the show, and so so we went

21:31

to go see the show.

21:32

Bro.

21:32

You forget even from get Richard Died

21:34

Trying, which came out like when I was in high

21:36

school.

21:37

Ish, you forget all the hits.

21:39

I mean he went thirty plus straight jams

21:42

and you.

21:42

Know, all of them absolutely done.

21:44

It feel good because I saw everybody in the crowd. I saw people

21:46

that were much older than me, people that

21:48

were younger than me. I mean, it's this whole spectrum.

21:50

Of it, and you see, that's the feeling

21:53

that's what makes us come back, that feeling

21:55

right there, But it's it's limited

21:58

to that hour or hour and a half.

22:00

After you're on stage, because once you're off stage,

22:02

back to live, back

22:06

to reality, yeah,

22:08

man.

22:08

Where you like, I can only imagine

22:10

going back having to play a game and then after the game, just

22:12

being exhausted. Your first show

22:14

back where you're like, damn dude.

22:16

The first you know, what happens to me After the first

22:19

couple of shows of not gonna lie. The first thing

22:21

that happens to me is the restless

22:23

lake syndrome. Right legs

22:25

of aching and my feet cramp a

22:27

lot. I get like the cramps

22:29

in the feet, so I gotta like keep you know, Yeah,

22:32

maybe it's just me.

22:33

I don't know.

22:34

We gotta get to deal with doctor Schulz or shows.

22:37

Come on down, Come on, I'm trying

22:39

to be the first fifty plus Calvin

22:41

Klein model.

22:43

There you go.

22:44

You know, Oh, guys wear

22:46

draws. We wear draws.

22:47

Come on, I'm saying Mark

22:50

doesn't. Mark doesn't.

22:53

Dude, that's the West Coast.

22:57

Commendo.

22:58

Okay, hold on, we gotta go back to the wire. We can't

23:00

skip over the Wire because that was one of my favorite shows.

23:03

Yeah, yeah, working with

23:05

people before they become megastars.

23:08

And I'm gonna embarrass myself about a story about

23:10

Idriselba, but if you have a good

23:12

story about him. So we get uh

23:14

invited to call the International Games

23:16

last year, I'm calling games for Fox and they

23:19

they asked our crew to come call these games

23:21

in London. Well it Yourselba's there and

23:24

I know him from the wire.

23:25

Yeah, and I totally blew

23:27

it on the intro like when you meet a famous

23:29

person, I usually don't get starstruck, but

23:32

I go to give him, you know, knuckles

23:34

and just like like, bro, I'm

23:36

a huge fan and my kid at the time

23:39

is like five five and a half.

23:41

Well, he loved Sonic two.

23:43

And its knuckles and

23:45

I'm like, yo, dude, Sonic two.

23:47

That was funny, Like

23:52

I felt like I asked. I said something to like Kareema

23:54

updul Jabar, like damn dude, that that

23:57

cameo in Full House was legit.

24:00

That one.

24:03

My interests of this story. It was

24:06

when I met him, very cool because we had a scene

24:08

together. Very cool dude

24:10

speaking in the Baltimore dialect. So

24:12

I had no idea he was British,

24:16

no idea whatsoever. So I'm

24:18

watching HBO and they used to do these

24:20

promos where it's not TV, it's HBO,

24:23

so they showed interest, but this one

24:26

had interests on it.

24:26

He's like, it's not TV, it's HBO.

24:29

I was like what.

24:33

So the next few times I ran into him, I had to ask

24:36

him like, how did you do the the

24:38

whole Baltimore accent? And he basically

24:40

told me he lived out there for a minute, picked

24:42

up the dialect. Wow, that is so amazing

24:44

to me because I can't do anything but New York.

24:46

I can't do down South, you know, I

24:49

could do suburban Midwest.

24:52

Give me that. What do you got?

24:54

How you doing? Don't you know?

24:57

Oh?

24:59

Don't you a jacket? Don't

25:01

you know this?

25:03

Minnesota's I

25:08

love it.

25:09

No slide against you, guys. I don't want any hate

25:11

mail.

25:12

Sorry, that's Nick. That's

25:14

Nick.

25:15

As long as it's Michigan we're hating, I'm fine with it. We

25:17

can hate all over Michigan. I

25:20

got no problem there.

25:22

See what you're signaling?

25:25

Uh awesome. So this is where

25:28

the part of the urine we get to just quick

25:30

fire questions for you.

25:31

Whoa, whoa, Oh, I

25:33

got a couple more, Coach, I got a couple more.

25:35

Okay, listen, I'm the one that the guy here. All

25:38

right, listen, Well he can wait, okay, unless

25:41

you gotta run.

25:41

You gotta run. You got I'm good, I'm good,

25:43

I'm good.

25:44

All right, all right, Govy, So I gotta

25:46

know because the strikes over your show

25:49

is coming back, the

25:51

whole AI thing. Oh

25:53

yeah, and that like

25:57

understanding what that could become in

25:59

the future. People using artificial intelligence

26:01

to replicate people's voices and

26:04

talent and all that kind of stuff. So my,

26:06

the thing that made me think about it was the

26:09

you guys did the You're

26:12

all I need to get by with Tammy

26:14

Trurell, Marvin Gate Yes, and sampling

26:17

music in a way, you know, pays

26:19

homage to their achievement

26:22

and ability and sound

26:24

and all that, and then you wrap over it and boom,

26:26

it's back with Mary J. Blige. You know,

26:30

it's awesome. It's awesome.

26:32

So how is it similar

26:34

with the AI stuff? Because I've heard a Johnny Cash version

26:36

of Taylor Swift song and that's not a

26:39

real thing.

26:39

He's not here anymore now.

26:41

I don't think there's any authenticity to

26:44

AI, honestly, you know, and

26:47

this is just my opinion. Yeah,

26:50

I feel like you're taking away

26:52

from the creative process that

26:55

makes it even fun to be a creative

26:58

you know, even though the people that are doing the stuff

27:00

that stuff looks pretty good.

27:01

I mean it sounds pretty good too, but no doubt,

27:04

but no, no thank you, no

27:06

thank you.

27:06

I'm like, I'm at the age now where I'm like, get off

27:08

of my law and new young whipper snappers. So

27:11

I like things the way they are, but

27:17

I do I like I like things the way they are,

27:19

but I'm not one to ever shut my nose at

27:22

technology or the future of technology.

27:24

Just your step on anyone's toes, why you do

27:26

it?

27:27

Yeah? And it's a slippery slope. Okay,

27:29

last one, last one. I'm sorry, Nick, I'm sorry.

27:32

This is a Marvel one. This is a Marvel my brother

27:34

Brandon, and Nick knows my brother Brandon. He

27:37

is like Marvel Universe Nerve.

27:39

He's hardcore. Okay, Okay, so

27:42

I had to write this one down. But he so

27:44

my kids into a DJ my son, he's

27:46

in the hole.

27:48

Okay.

27:48

Now, my brother introduces us both to

27:50

his old comics and he shows me World

27:53

Breaker, Whole, Red Hull,

27:55

who's general thunder whatever Ross?

27:57

Yes, Rock,

28:00

Yeah, thunderborl Rock.

28:01

Okay.

28:02

So he says the X

28:05

Men crossover in the nineties, the

28:07

Executioner's song is

28:10

the best comic book crossover, true

28:13

or false? And if it's false, he wants your

28:15

favorite chromic comic book cross.

28:18

I'll say false because there's a comic

28:21

book out there called Secret Wars Okay

28:24

that trumped everything every

28:27

Okay, but execution this song was pretty

28:29

good. You had Wolverine

28:32

being the adamantium if

28:34

that's a word. Yes, that was Magneto

28:37

showing how badass he was when

28:39

he basically he took all of the animalium

28:41

out of Wolverine's body.

28:44

I mean, that's the metal inside of Wolverine.

28:47

Don't you start with me. I'm the biggest Wolverine

28:50

fan there is. That is my that's

28:52

my carre.

28:53

So this is deep in the Marvel stuff

28:55

though, because Cable's in that Cable is a

28:57

twin brother. He kills Professor

28:59

Xavier like there's a lot of stuff.

29:01

Yes, yes, Legacy virus, the whole

29:03

thing.

29:03

But when we're talking about just

29:07

secret Wars, just did it for me, Man

29:09

the Beyond or Doctor Dooms,

29:11

which shows why Doctor Doom is such

29:14

a beat b ass you know

29:16

what I mean, A badass Man the

29:19

Molecule Man just a beat

29:21

a b rated character being elevated

29:24

to being the strongest, most dominant

29:26

person in the home freaking

29:28

Marvel universe. There's

29:30

nothing gets better than that. And I hope when they do do

29:33

the movie that is done right. I'm

29:36

not slighting anything against Marvel. These guys

29:38

are churning out stuff like

29:41

every five minutes. They're churning stuff out.

29:43

Some I like, some I don't. But that's you

29:45

know, open for opinion. But

29:47

Secret Wars by far best best

29:51

crossover series ever.

29:53

Are you going to be in a Marvel movie? They've opened

29:55

up this entire universe. Harry Styles

29:57

has been in a Marvel movie?

29:59

Like, how are you not in a I will

30:01

say this, those contracts are

30:03

pretty long and I'm pretty long

30:05

into two.

30:08

Let me let me stop.

30:09

Yeah yeah, let me just stop bringing

30:11

up the age thing because I don't look my age at all.

30:13

But I would say that those contracts are pretty

30:15

long and takes

30:18

up a lot of time. But

30:20

I would jump at

30:22

the opportunity to be in a Marvel movie.

30:24

Still, I love it.

30:26

So it's now out there for everybody. Yeah,

30:29

let's go putting it out into the ether.

30:32

You did, you could spin off your own characters,

30:36

you know, unlimited.

30:37

I'm actually I'm actually in the book. I'm

30:40

actually in the Next Men book. Yes,

30:43

yes, I like it.

30:45

Brag about it all right, nice,

30:47

bro, let's be nice.

30:48

That is my I will say, hand up

30:50

my fault. You did mention those two questions and I forgot

30:52

to let you have your time. So that one's on

30:54

me, on me, all

30:57

right, So quick fire questions, just you know, quick

30:59

ones right off the top of your head, nothing

31:01

too crazy. Favorite Jets

31:04

player you've ever.

31:04

Met, I

31:07

ever met Dan?

31:08

Thank you?

31:08

You know what I'm

31:10

gonna say, Nick and then Mark are

31:13

my favorites?

31:14

Well done?

31:14

Right now?

31:15

That's great? Okay, Any Jets players

31:18

can any Jets players rap.

31:20

I haven't heard any of them rat form or

31:23

current. Uh nah,

31:25

I doubt it. No, I

31:28

doubt it. I wouldn't.

31:28

I wouldn't go on in the field and try, and you know,

31:31

you know, score a touchdown off

31:34

a Zach Wilson pass.

31:35

So don't try and come in the studio.

31:36

Rowme on the rez a beat, all

31:43

right, So all right, this one's

31:45

gonna take a deep breath of this one. Take a long

31:48

walk in Central Park or people watching Times Square?

31:51

Oh boy, I say, people watching Times Square.

31:54

That's it's a wild time in Times Square.

31:56

It is a wild time in town square. That's why

31:58

I picked that.

31:59

With you walking

32:02

around, I got one.

32:04

Danger they got dirty feet

32:10

word all right?

32:11

Favorite holiday, favorite holiday.

32:13

And my birthday. It should

32:15

be a holiday if it's not already.

32:18

March second March second you said March second. Second,

32:20

Yeah, March second.

32:22

It's already circled on the calendar for us, So we'll

32:24

start that. We'll start that Don Dale, Peter,

32:27

Peter Luger, or Delmonico's.

32:30

I go with Luga Luga because I've

32:32

never had Monico's. I've never had it.

32:34

There you go, so, uh

32:37

are you going to? You have three

32:39

hours left? Are you going

32:41

to a Broadway show or a movie theater?

32:44

Oh, that's tough. I would rather go to

32:46

a Broadway show kind

32:50

of.

32:51

I love the way you get submerged

32:53

into the knowing that there's just the set,

32:56

but you get submerged into that story is nothing

32:58

like it plays all day.

33:00

It's last Broadway show you've seen.

33:02

Oh, I forgot

33:04

the name of it. I did see Motown,

33:06

I saw Spider Man. I took my kissing

33:09

July thing. They weren't interested at all.

33:11

I loved it more than they did.

33:14

It was a play about four four four

33:18

four black men, but it was like different

33:20

stages, like rage, empathy,

33:23

some other it was.

33:24

It was a dope play.

33:25

Mac Wilde's was in it, as a matter of fact,

33:28

and a few other people. I can't

33:30

remember the name. I'm so mad at myself for it.

33:32

But absolutely

33:35

what in that schedule? It's crazy too, man,

33:37

you know I probably I

33:40

love it.

33:40

I love it. I love it all

33:44

right.

33:44

So would you rather take a taxi or

33:46

the subway?

33:48

Man?

33:48

The subway off the chain? Man, I might

33:51

just have to go with taxi. And it ain't because

33:53

I'm scared of the subway. It's just subway

33:55

a little weird.

33:56

Man. I don't like rats.

34:00

Nick's got his own chauffeur, so he doesn't

34:02

do either. Hold

34:05

up, Hold up, wait, how

34:08

is there not a Wu Tang Clan Broadway show?

34:10

You could get all the game, man,

34:12

which we want a residency in Vegas be

34:15

the first wrap back to do that.

34:16

That would be so fire fire

34:21

in the sphere.

34:21

Oh wow, we put it in the sphere, in the sphere

34:24

that that would be fire right with that bign

34:26

on that spare.

34:27

Tell the whole story.

34:28

You tell the whole story, man,

34:31

Let me tell you we are in the end times.

34:33

You seen that sphere. It's

34:36

all downhill from here, brother, it's all that

34:41

thing is amazing.

34:42

I'll put a good word in the next Rangers game. I'll talk to

34:45

Dolan, see who we can get done.

34:46

Yeah right, let's go all.

34:49

Right, So the last one for you. Would you rather

34:51

go to the top of the Empire state budding or to

34:53

the crown of the Statue of Liberty.

34:55

I actually worked at the Statue of Liberty for years

34:57

and never went inside, I'll say

35:00

either, because I'm scared of heights there. Yeah,

35:03

I worked there for years for years. Yes,

35:05

what concessions.

35:08

And actually we actually did a documentary

35:11

about ourselves and I went back to my old

35:13

job there on in the documentary and

35:15

my old boss was still well, of course

35:17

he was still there, but he was very

35:20

cordial.

35:20

He was a lot different than I remember him.

35:22

What do you say?

35:23

Oh, what are you gonna do?

35:26

Luck? I actually left

35:28

there all good terms. There was a respect thing.

35:30

But he, you know, he was very you

35:34

could tell that he was very pleased

35:36

and happy for me of

35:39

my journey from the way I am.

35:41

Yes, yes, sir.

35:43

Concessions at the Statue of Liberty to

35:46

movies albums, dude,

35:48

you name it. One

35:50

of our favorite guests man so much.

35:53

Really appreciate it.

35:55

I saw you when I saw you in the tunnel,

35:57

I had to say something to you, Nick, because you know, said,

36:00

bro, you caught me off guard because that and

36:03

I felt bad because I realized it afterwards that

36:05

I might not have been as cordial

36:07

as I would have liked to have been.

36:09

But it was rain. That rain

36:11

was coming in and I had to park

36:13

in the further lot and I was running

36:15

in. I was out of breath. I couldn't bring it

36:17

because I don't run anymore, so I

36:20

couldn't even talk. I was just like, and I

36:22

felt so bad, but I was like, I gotta

36:25

I gotta beat the rain. And I decided

36:27

my heart health wasn't as important to me beating

36:29

in the rain, and I was ready for it.

36:34

Get the goldilocks. What you know?

36:36

I know right?

36:38

It was fine.

36:38

And Mark, you made us very proud brother when

36:41

you were our quarterbacks man. We made

36:43

the postseason. Not only made the post we actually

36:45

won a postseason game. Thank you, sir, Thank

36:48

you, sir.

36:48

A couple of those bad boys, yes

36:50

sir, yes, sir, appreciate

36:53

a big guy. Emmy h O D ma'am.

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37:50

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37:52

I now understand why his titles are so long.

37:56

He's got so many different things going on between

37:58

wrapper, actor,

38:00

producer, writer, fill

38:04

it in, and he's so

38:06

diverse in all the different things, like diving

38:08

into the Marvel stuff. I had no idea

38:11

he was a marvel

38:13

aholic. What are they?

38:15

Yeah, Marvelight, Marvel, I

38:18

don't I'm not sure. I

38:20

think yeah. I think it's a it's

38:23

the range, the spectrum, the body

38:25

of work you know, like it's

38:29

he's got everything, dude, yearething?

38:31

Yeah, And I really did feel bad impressive.

38:33

When I did meet him for the first time. I had

38:36

been running all the way in from the parking lot and I was

38:38

just out of breath.

38:40

I was it was.

38:41

It was not pretty, but I didn't want to get rained on, like

38:44

would you hit him with like soup?

38:46

I kind of hit him with this up like I

38:50

know it was not good. It

38:54

wasn't good.

38:55

I admitted it.

38:56

I put my hand.

38:57

Dude, that

38:59

was worse than worse than me with the yoursel

39:01

butt.

39:02

No, that's worse.

39:05

That's so bad.

39:08

Although it does get you so being

39:10

here in New York and being

39:12

with Jet fans and what we've found I think

39:14

doing this podcast for the time that

39:16

we have is we do have some amazing celebrity

39:18

fans. Who's

39:21

your biggest celebrity that you met

39:24

over the the playing days

39:27

and we'll go post career two because why not

39:31

maybe your favorite it's a big Jet fan, doesn't

39:34

have to be a big Jet fan, but just celebrity in general. I

39:36

mean, we've we've found out I think through this podcast that

39:38

there are plenty of celebrity Jet fans

39:41

but I think celebrity overall, and

39:44

I don't know if I have a favorite.

39:49

I mean, Chris Berman was pretty sweet. I mean I

39:52

had met him before, but having him on the podcast,

39:54

like because of my childhood

39:57

watching him after every Sunday like up

40:00

all the games, Yeah, that

40:02

was pretty cool to me. And how he comes up with

40:04

nicknames and I thought that

40:07

was pretty sweet.

40:08

Maybe a little Dave Matthews throw that in there, keep

40:10

it in the music, Oh yeah,

40:13

good call. Trying

40:16

to think, yeah, it's

40:18

been It's interesting because I don't know, and I

40:21

mean, you played on a couple of other teams, so I don't

40:23

know if it's just New York centric that there's

40:26

so many celebrities around. But I have

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a hard time believing like in Indianapolis

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you would have as many crossovers.

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Yeah, maybe not as much.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, people from there, but like you know, Will

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Ferrell's like massive usc guy, you

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know, so he's always.

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I don't see, that's a good one. I

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probably would have led with that one.

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Really. My burying the headline bad kind

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of burying the lead there, very the lead

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there, big guy.

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Yeah, that's all right, that's alright.

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The opposite of what we do with media.

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My bad, bad, I

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know, but this was awesome. I think it was a great episode and

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uh I'm looking forward to the next one and I hope

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everyone enjoyed it. Oh

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you next time.