Episode Reviews

Ezra was right that some of the things the guest says in this episode, or the way he says them, are irksome. However, I found myself pausing and rewinding several times to ensure I wasn't conflating the messenger with the message, or reacting to surprising claims with knee-jerk reactions, or interpreting words too literally, or even mixing up aspirations with practical strategy. I found this exercise to be illuminating. Overall, it was a refreshing experience to listen to a conversation between two thoughtful and articulate people espousing two *actually* different sides of a complex issue, whereas in many other similar conversations the interlocutor from the "other" side is way too abstract or distant from the core claims being (literally and figuratively) fought over on the ground. Real food for thought!