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["The

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And

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this is the podcast where the mission is to keep it 100 at all times

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We talk about the fuckery going on in the world and in our lives

1:28

all while having a whole lot of fun

1:30

doing it in The studio today special

1:33

studio today. Yeah, we have

1:35

the showrunner producers and writers of

1:37

the Daily Show on Comedy Central Leslie

1:39

and I were so impressed with our time there We

1:42

had to do this and bring them on and

1:44

of course we have the fuckery of the week, but first

1:47

What the fuck is up Leslie Leslie big

1:49

story this week was we were up for the ambies We

1:51

did not win, but Judith we sent Judith to

1:54

the Ambie Awards, right? Yes. Was

1:56

it fun Judith? It was

1:58

fun and I'm glad I got dressed up. and did the whole

2:00

thing. Wait a second, that's not what you said. You

2:02

said you weren't that glad you got dressed up.

2:05

No, I'm glad I got dressed up. I don't

2:07

like doing that stuff because it takes

2:10

so much to get ready

2:12

for it. You have to get the dress, you gotta get your makeup

2:14

done, you gotta get your hair done. It's just so

2:16

much goes into getting

2:18

ready for those formal events like that. That's

2:20

the only thing that I don't like, but

2:22

I'm glad I went

2:24

so that I could see, you know, our big

2:26

podcast on the screen and it's linked

2:28

with all these other podcasts.

2:31

It was dope, yeah, it was

2:32

good. So did people recognize

2:34

you? Not

2:37

recognize you, but you know what I'm saying? Was people like,

2:39

oh, what the fuck are you doing? Who the fuck

2:41

are you doing?

2:42

Absolutely not, no.

2:44

Wow. Wow.

2:48

That's crazy. She

2:50

could've lied. It was fun. No, but

2:53

you guys are the stars. If y'all had come,

2:55

then it would have been like, oh, flashing

2:58

lights and all that stuff.

2:59

Flashing lights. Flashing

3:01

lights. Yeah. But Lenny said, Lenny said

3:03

when I think came up though, a lot of people cheered

3:05

and stuff. Yeah, they did. They did. Nice.

3:08

They did cheer. So that was dope. That was

3:10

dope.

3:11

And Larry Wilmore hosted it. They

3:13

were really good. They kept that train

3:15

moving. It was only, I think, like. An hour? Yeah,

3:18

hour and a half, two hours maybe. They kept

3:19

it moving. It's a podcast. Come

3:22

on. What'd you put? Podcast awards.

3:24

It was a lot of names. Fucking Oscars. Yeah, they kept it moving.

3:26

People got dressed up, they're giving speeches. Did

3:29

you have a picture of how you looked? Did you bring a picture?

3:31

Oh, I didn't bring a picture, but I'll share it with you guys

3:34

and we can share it. Yeah, so I can see it, man. Well,

3:36

we're glad you went. I'm glad you went, I'm glad you

3:38

had a good time. Meanwhile, while you were doing that, we

3:41

were on tour. Woo! The

3:43

tour has kicked off, Richmond, Virginia. And

3:46

Atlantic City. They were fun. They

3:49

were fun. Yo, I actually, like first of all,

3:51

when you go on the road with Lenny, Lenny asks, Lenny

3:53

is like true nerd. So he's

3:55

like the best to have on the road because you

3:59

like you're going to know about every. everything

4:00

in the city we go into. So he's like, this

4:02

is literally what he said. We go in and get some food.

4:04

And then he goes, let's walk the block.

4:07

I was like, this motherfucker. This

4:10

motherfucking thing here in New York. But I

4:12

was like, this block is way longer than

4:14

fucking New York, Lenny. It's not longer. We

4:17

didn't even make it around the block because

4:19

we stopped at this store. Thank you, Jesus.

4:21

Because that would have been so

4:24

uncomfortable. Lenny walked so fast. He

4:27

walked so fucking fast.

4:29

He walks like he's in a car and

4:31

you're like, what the fuck are you rushing to,

4:34

you son of a nerd? Like

4:36

what the fuck, right? What is

4:38

the problem? Pick up the pace, ladies.

4:41

Pick up the pace, I got on fucking Air Force. These

4:44

motherfuckers ain't made for really walking. They

4:46

made for looking good. Next time, bring your roller

4:48

skates, you can keep up. Something, that's what I'm gonna

4:50

have to start doing because I'm tall as

4:53

you and you fucking walk so fast. Last

4:55

night he was walking with me home and I was like,

4:58

We got the 86, he was like, I'm gonna walk you to rest. I

5:00

was like, in my head, I was like, nah.

5:02

All right. Fuck, you walk

5:04

too fucking fast. I wanna

5:06

cascade home and listen to music. Your

5:09

ass is in there. I'm sorry, I'm gonna walk you

5:11

home. With his hands behind his

5:13

back, when he puts his hands behind his back, it's like,

5:16

oh, this motherfucker is about to win a race. Anyway,

5:19

so we stopped at this record

5:22

store.

5:23

I don't walk like that, what is the matter with you? You

5:25

walk with your hands behind your back And

5:28

then you're doing that Jewish complaining,

5:30

then ah, these fucking streets. I'm

5:32

telling you, in the fucking New York, they don't fucking

5:34

let that back. I don't remember this at all yesterday. Yeah,

5:37

okay. All right, go ahead. So we went to a

5:39

record store. We went to a record store. So

5:41

you got your breath, apparently. Jesus, yes, thank

5:44

you, Father God. All I was thinking

5:46

was, thank you God, this tour is over.

5:50

Fuck me. We went literally one city block, if

5:52

anybody in New York was listening.

5:53

Man, we've seen enough of that. That

5:55

city is one city, fucking blind. All right,

5:57

well, you got the highlight. So we go into,

5:59

we go. I'm

6:00

going to this record store, which was

6:02

awesome. Vinyl Conflict. Yeah,

6:04

and how many albums I picked? At

6:06

least about 20 albums. About 20 albums

6:09

I picked out because, and I would've, man,

6:11

if I would've had a day, I would've been in

6:13

there a couple of hours because they had

6:16

some hits. I got some good

6:18

shit too, man. I got some good

6:20

shit. I got, what did I think? I got a, I

6:23

think I got a James Brown album. You

6:25

got a lot of stuff, a lot of R&B. Yeah, man.

6:27

A lot of hip, some hip hop. Some hip hop. Got

6:29

the

6:30

Run DMC album, the one where they have

6:32

the caps and the Run DMC, like

6:34

I think they first, the King of the Rock, King of Rock,

6:36

oh my God. Somebody, my friend, who's a big music

6:38

guy, texted me, he's like, that's a good album. It's a fuck,

6:40

it's the best, it's one of their best albums, the one

6:43

where they just really just showed that they was Run

6:45

D, fucking MC, you know what I'm saying? So,

6:49

we went there and then, what happened?

6:52

Then we went to, we

6:54

got sandwich, it's Secret Sandwich Society.

6:56

Which secret sandwich, the secret is,

6:58

that your sandwiches is not part of the society.

7:01

And you know what, you forgot my fucking key lime

7:03

pie. We came back and we got our key lime

7:06

pie because I was like they're gonna- 10 at night, after the gig.

7:08

Oh no, I'm gonna get my fucking pie.

7:10

If I bought pie, you're gonna give

7:13

me pie. So especially key lime,

7:15

don't be trying to hold out on my motherfucking key

7:17

lime. So

7:18

Lenny, and Lenny didn't wanna go back, I was like Lenny,

7:20

we're getting my fucking pie. It was like nine

7:23

hours later, the things about to close,

7:25

and I'm like, there's no way this guy's gonna give us

7:27

pie. I was not gonna fucking remember that. Leslie Jones

7:29

came in there and made a fucking order. It's a different shift. Oh,

7:32

who gives a shit? We walk in. We

7:34

walk in, and that guy goes, I'm staying

7:36

with Leslie. I'm like, they're gonna throw us out

7:38

of here. I go, we were here

7:40

like nine hours ago for lunch, and you forgot to put

7:43

the key lime pie in the bag, and she wants a key

7:45

lime pie. He goes, sure, I'll be right back. Fuck

7:47

exactly. See now, this

7:49

is the thing with men. Men are, you

7:52

will not complain because you'll just

7:54

let, You'll let somebody just stick a fucking

7:56

breakstick in your ass and you'll

7:58

just be like, ah, pull it out.

8:00

later, like you don't give a fuck. I'm not gonna let somebody

8:02

put a bunch of shit in my ass, but in New York they be

8:04

like, get out. Fuck that, fuck that.

8:06

No, I'm not getting out, bitch, then give me my motherfucking

8:08

money back, okay? Cause like, this is my thing, this

8:11

is my thing. If a closed mouth don't get

8:13

fed, this is what the

8:15

whole lesson is. A closed mouth don't get

8:17

fed. If we wouldn't have went back and asked, we wouldn't

8:19

have got my motherfucking pie. So

8:22

anyway, so I get my pie and

8:25

it wasn't even the pie that I wanted. So

8:27

there it is. No, it was the pie

8:29

you wanted, it just didn't taste like you wanted it. Listen,

8:32

let me tell you... No, that's because you like

8:34

cream shit. So let me explain something

8:36

to you about key lime pie. Key lime pie...

8:39

Wait, let me get my pen. Yeah, get your

8:41

motherfucking pen. Key lime pie has

8:43

a fucking history, okay? So first of all,

8:45

when I worked at Denny's, okay, they

8:48

used to have the green, like

8:50

the... Literally, it would look green. It

8:52

was like green. And I remember

8:54

thinking, I do not want to taste a green pie, but

8:56

everybody was ordering it. And I was like, maybe

8:59

it's good or something. One night,

9:01

work from 12 to six, I was like, fuck it. Let's

9:03

try this mother, and I tried it, and oh

9:06

my God, best thing I

9:08

ever fucking tasted, right? Dennis Key Lime Pie. Oh,

9:10

you fucking, this was, but this was like 1988. They

9:15

don't even make it. When Dennis made Key Lime Pie.

9:17

No, I mean, yeah, Dennis used to make pies, motherfuckers.

9:19

He still make pies? Ah, they don't make them like

9:21

they used to, though. You know, they used to be really

9:24

good. So

9:26

I used to steal those pies. So I- Used

9:29

to steal the pie? Oh, because like, you know, they rotate

9:32

the prize and I'm not gonna

9:34

throw it away, I'm gonna take it home. It's still good. All

9:36

right, so I take a pie. So that's not really

9:38

stealing, is it? It's recycling. So

9:41

I will take it home. And

9:43

after that, they stopped making the pies

9:45

like that. And I never had a key

9:48

lime pie like that ever again. I've

9:50

had good key lime pie, but

9:53

for some reason somebody calls

9:55

somebody at somebody's restaurant

9:58

or recipe place and say hey.

10:00

instead of just doing the straight

10:02

key lime jelly thing like that, mix

10:04

it with cream is better. And they fucked

10:06

me, they fucked me at the factory. At

10:08

the store,

10:10

at the secret store. I mean now, you could find

10:12

some good key lime pie, but they taste

10:14

more like lemon than

10:16

key lime. So that's the key. That's

10:19

Leslie's cooking lesson for today,

10:22

you son of a. Well, I liked it, but.

10:24

That's because you a fucking nerd. Also shout out

10:26

real quick to Lily Pearl, that was a restaurant we went into.

10:28

Oh, now. if you're an Richmond. Lily Pearl has

10:30

nothing to do with the sandwich society. Right.

10:33

They're across the street. Lily Pearl was across the street

10:35

and let me tell you shottin'

10:38

the mother fuckin' braise,

10:41

what was it, braise beef? Yeah. Chingarasito

10:45

queserre de puta. That's a five star review.

10:47

It was so mother

10:49

fuckin' good. It was good. It was meltin'

10:52

your mouth. And I

10:54

usually don't like risotto. I

10:56

usually don't like it because it's a little al dente for

10:58

me, But that,

10:59

Brazil-to, was great. Was fucking

11:02

delicious. So there you go. This is Lily

11:04

Pearl, through in Richmond. We just gave you a full tour

11:06

of the one block that is Richmond, Virginia. And

11:09

Leslie had a great time. All

11:11

right, we got time for one chartable review. This is the review

11:14

of the week, Leslie. This is from Vitamin D. What?

11:17

I don't know, that's what she calls herself, Vitamin D. And it's, cause

11:20

she's a motherfucking G, son. This is my

11:22

favorite podcast from my work commute. Leslie

11:24

makes me laugh out loud. Each time I love her

11:26

passion and daily fuckeries. I'm

11:28

pretty sure we'd be best friends if we ever met,

11:31

or she'd kick me in the head.

11:33

Lenny would talk her down though, and

11:35

then I'd become Lenny's best friend. Either way, I

11:37

must add to your podcast repertoire.

11:40

She really knows me. I feel like she

11:42

knows me, you know? I

11:44

feel like that's a true fan, you

11:46

know? That knows that violence

11:48

might be chose, you know? I

11:51

love that. All right, well that's it for the week. We

11:53

will come back right away with

11:56

the executive producers of

11:58

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13:49

she's behind the camera. Let's go around. Just say who you

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13:57

I'm David Kabuka, I am a producer.

14:00

David thought it was Daniel. I

14:02

am Daniel, Ray Dosh. I'm a senior

14:04

writer. Oh, you're the Daniel. And

14:07

I'm Dan. And I'm

14:09

a head writer. Motherfucker. And

14:11

Amara's a head writer. She was getting it all. It's

14:13

either Dan's or David's. That's what it is. That's what I

14:15

was like, it's a bunch of David's and Dan's. If

14:17

I say it, somebody will answer. That's right. I

14:20

feel like how Dan Amara is just trying to go by Dan now. Just

14:22

Dan? I had to differentiate myself. Yeah,

14:24

I was so... We call you Smilin' Dan. Smilin'

14:27

Dan. Yeah. I'm like, how

14:29

do we call it a smile? We call

14:30

it a smile and dance. Yeah, we call it smile and dance. So that's

14:32

how I like prompt Leslie who is who. It's a misconception

14:34

that I don't smile. I do smile. Just

14:36

like in between the smiles, I am

14:38

contemplating death. That's

14:41

my kind of guy. We should be best friends. Yeah.

14:44

That we should be best friends. Well, we saw

14:46

you guys like two, what was it? Three months

14:48

ago and you were just saying Dan on, smile and

14:50

Dan on the way in was saying how it went

14:52

like that. It went fast, even though

14:54

it's been like three months. Man, it was so

14:56

fun. but we had the world's greatest

14:58

time. We've said this to you in person

15:00

as well. Well, I can't stop talking

15:02

about how just like everybody there,

15:05

like was they did their job, like

15:07

was there, like loved doing

15:09

their job, stayed in their lane

15:12

and just everybody connected

15:14

to one flowing vessel,

15:17

which was, and it was so good.

15:20

Like I think that's why every week

15:22

has been so good because y'all

15:24

machine is so well ran,

15:26

you know what I'm saying? So it can

15:29

fit around anybody

15:30

who comes in there. I think. I

15:32

mean, you're giving us a lot of credit. I would

15:34

also point out that you were the first

15:36

person to be like, I'm going to go and I'm going to go first.

15:39

And it made it first of all so hard

15:41

for everybody that came after her because she was so

15:43

fun and funny. But you

15:46

really helped us shape the process.

15:48

You were the first one. Yeah, we didn't know it at the time, but

15:51

we were so lucky to have you guys first. because

15:53

we're like, oh, we can do this, and

15:55

it can be awesome. Really fun. Yeah. Yeah. It's

15:58

been real good. I mean, we've watched.

16:00

and everybody you you make anybody I just

16:02

like they just making everybody look yeah

16:04

let's not happy with that you forget how

16:07

we're in it every week and for

16:11

years

16:18

and years and years and then now that the weeks

16:20

are a different person every four days

16:22

like how fast four shows go

16:25

it goes crazy that's the first

16:27

thing I noticed when I was in there after the first day

16:29

first of all I was exhausted and second of all you guys

16:31

it You walk in at nine I walked

16:33

in at nine o'clock And then by the time

16:36

that show stops and we walk out I am

16:38

I didn't sit for one second you guys gave

16:40

me lunch I'm like when did when did you guys eat lunch? I

16:42

was watching to see I didn't see you've been eat lunch I

16:44

didn't see

16:46

Kabuki lunch. I did what do you guys don't let

16:48

them there was an IV drip It's

16:51

that fast yeah everybody after

16:53

you guys also comes in And it's like, what

16:55

the fuck is wrong with you guys doing your lives

16:58

like this? To the point where I'm beginning to be like,

17:00

am I fucking up? Why am I doing

17:03

it this way? It fears my comfort into an insult.

17:05

We're like, well, it's amazing you guys can

17:07

do this. Why are you doing this? Should you be

17:09

doing this? Well, I worked in an office. There

17:11

were guys I would get so mad at that they worked for

17:13

me way back then that they

17:15

were smokers.

17:16

So they would have to go every hour to take a smoking

17:18

break. Where is that guy? Like, if any of you guys smoke,

17:20

you're fired. Because I mean, the

17:22

pace is so fast. Yeah. I

17:25

don't know. I didn't feel, I mean, me as

17:27

the host, I didn't feel like that. I felt like,

17:30

because I, SNL, nothing

17:32

will ever be as hard as SNL. I'm,

17:34

it's- That's what I always say when people are like, why do you do

17:36

this? It's two jobs. It's not,

17:39

but this, this, the week that I had

17:41

with y'all was just like, every night we was

17:43

leaving by seven. That's what I say.

17:46

Like six to seven, I was like, I've never

17:48

been home in time enough to

17:51

actually just enjoy my evening.

17:53

Does that make sense? So, yeah, I don't know. I

17:56

felt just like, oh, man, this is great.

18:00

We're very efficient, I think. We

18:02

pack a lot in. So efficient. But

18:04

then you can go, we get to leave by like, you

18:06

know, seven, seven to eight,

18:08

depending on the night and the edit. But

18:12

whenever anybody complains, I'm like, listen, Conan,

18:15

SNL, they just stay all

18:17

night.

18:17

Yeah. All the time. So this?

18:21

Tuesday nights at SNL is

18:23

Hell Night. And then it's followed by Wednesday

18:26

where they cut everybody's shit that

18:28

they did Tuesday Tuesday's writing night

18:30

and Wednesday as they read all the stories. Yeah, Wednesday

18:33

is called Ash Wednesday. We used to call it Ash

18:35

Wednesday because everything got burnt the fuck

18:37

down. So it's like there

18:39

and see, I can't explain it. Like

18:41

the cuts and everything, maybe I

18:44

got used to it because of SNL, but

18:46

the cuts that you guys were making

18:47

was just so

18:49

vital. Like you come like, yo, we're going to do this and we're

18:51

going to put it. And that's I love that.

18:53

Like, you know, when you have people who know

18:56

and then to the writing. Like

18:58

I have to do nothing, like I can't

19:01

explain it. I got that first email

19:03

of one of the jokes. I was like, oh

19:05

fuck. I hit Lenny, I was like, fuck

19:08

Lenny. Lenny, we're not gonna

19:10

have to fucking write. This is perfect.

19:12

Shit. We're just not gonna have to write everything.

19:15

I was just like, nah, fuck that. Like they gave us

19:17

options. Like it was like walking

19:19

into a buffet and it was just like, shit,

19:21

I wanna taste all this shit. Like put

19:24

some of all this on that plate. Like put that

19:26

on, nah, we can't. But it was like really

19:29

like great. That was exhilarating

19:32

to have a writers that pinpointed

19:35

what you wanted to talk about it. I don't mean to

19:37

get like into like, you know, like joke theory

19:40

and stuff like that, but it does feel to me that part

19:42

of the fact that we have this really

19:44

tight deadline where it's like, well, the camera

19:46

started rolling at six every day. So it

19:49

has to be on paper. Does generate a lot

19:51

of like, I don't have like time to think or tweak

19:53

or play with this. It's just, here's the first joke

19:55

instinct I have. And usually that tends to be kind of the best

19:58

one, you know? And I remember. And

20:00

then, you know, the Lord was saying to me one time, he was like, you

20:02

know, people think that they need more

20:04

than one week to get

20:06

some, it's like you

20:08

give them a week, they'll get it done. Like, and it's just

20:10

like, yeah. They get it done, but

20:12

I've seen some of the sketches that they have, they

20:15

could use another week.

20:16

And listen, sometimes we can use another hour.

20:18

That's the difference with us is though, like we, like the, the

20:21

jokes are weaker, but we get home at seven o'clock. That's a

20:23

nice question. I don't think so. I

20:25

think, yeah, cause I'm like, Y'all writers

20:28

are fucking dope.

20:29

Like y'all was coming with shit.

20:32

Like I love getting hit in the head with

20:34

shit. Like it was like, you say one

20:36

thing and then it's like, oh, bam, oh, bam, oh,

20:38

oh, bam. But it's like, oh, okay.

20:41

It's like when you're writing a joke and

20:43

you go on stage and you write a joke and then you

20:45

do the joke on stage and then you come off stage

20:47

and there's a bunch of comics just giving you tags

20:50

and you're like, fuck, yeah, fuck. Ooh, I didn't

20:52

even know I can go that way. I love that.

20:55

You know, I love that. So that's the experience

20:57

I had. Which is really cool that you had that

20:59

experience. Because remember, because we, for

21:02

the people out there, we've been

21:04

doing this. This is the first time we did this. And we had

21:06

a rehearsal script. Remember our rehearsal

21:08

script? So we had this rehearsal script

21:11

just so that the person can practice being

21:14

like the new host for the week. And

21:17

Leslie was the first person to do

21:20

the rehearsal script. And she did

21:22

not exactly compliment it. I'll

21:25

prove you Like

21:30

oh, I know this is not written what

21:32

the fuck women I don't even make sense I

21:37

love that though. I love them No,

21:42

this is this is just hi in the access

21:44

no, let's leave this Leslie, Leslie, no.

21:47

Leslie, no. Test

21:49

script. Have you ever had a time

21:51

where you, now you said this has happened, but explain

21:53

what happens or when has it happened, where

21:56

you walk in and there's no good stories that day, or

21:58

you nothing really.

22:00

is coming, does that happen often? Well, there's

22:02

two types of not good stories. There's

22:04

a type when there's just not really much in the news. And there's

22:06

a type when it's all school shootings

22:08

or a terrorist attack. Well, what do you do for that as well? Usually

22:12

when there's not good stories, we'll kind of

22:14

dig into one of the not big

22:18

stories. There was this day when I remember

22:20

Dan really pushed for, we need

22:23

to really go all in on this story about how there's

22:25

a cow in New Zealand that's a lot bigger than other

22:27

cows. That's not

22:30

that can't be half that a show

22:32

and it turned out to be half the show worth of jokes

22:35

And so it's that kind of stuff where it's like oh we found something it was

22:37

wrong There's a lot of stuff going

22:39

on in the world like it may not all be

22:42

front-page news But if you go past

22:44

that front-page story, there's like

22:46

interesting stuff going on international Local

22:50

like you know you could go what's going on in Nebraska.

22:52

We did something yesterday,

22:53

or what's going on in England

22:55

There's so much stuff going on and we only have time for

22:57

like three or four stories So, you

23:00

know, that that is sort of a blessing in a way. We don't have

23:02

to cover a million things to find three or four

23:04

things that interest the host and that they find

23:06

funny. And that's the show. Do you go everybody

23:09

way in? Do you have a story that you remember that you love

23:11

the most or is the gift that Cape on kept

23:13

on giving or something that you remember like, oh, we

23:16

love this story.

23:16

My brain erases every night. Like

23:19

it literally is like I like to leave my hard

23:21

drive every night. That makes sense. But this

23:23

week we did have one story that was one of my favorites.

23:25

we've done in a while, were Newark, let

23:28

this country be its, or

23:30

city be its sister city. And

23:33

they had this big ceremony and it turned out it wasn't

23:35

a real place and it was a cult. And

23:37

it just like killed, I was just like, this

23:40

is a great story. The fact that I haven't done Newark made

23:42

it so perfect. It's Jersey, like there's

23:44

so many jokes in it. It was just, that was

23:46

a great story. Well

23:46

we went, when we, our first story

23:48

right out of the gate was the statue

23:51

in Boston. Oh, the MLK statue. No

23:53

one has showed it to me. And when someone showed

23:55

it to me, I was like, immediately, I

23:57

was like, this guy is eating this girl out.

24:00

What the fuck is happening? What is this? And

24:02

then when they told me, I was like, why is MLK

24:04

eating his life out in the middle

24:06

of fucking Boston? That doesn't even

24:09

make sense. This is not gonna help. What

24:11

was the first line you guys wrote? Something like, have you ever

24:13

gone down on- Now have you ever, has

24:16

somebody go down on you or something? There's a munchy

24:18

munchy munchy munchy munchy munchy. The

24:21

munchy munchy munch munch. That's

24:23

how we started the relationship. And chicken pussy

24:26

will always go down

24:28

in history. I think when

24:30

I'm on my deathbed, I'm gonna be like, you

24:32

know, describing how the greatest line. Chicken

24:36

pussy. It will always be. Just

24:38

one more thing. Chicken

24:41

pussy. We'll try to decipher like

24:43

what does that mean? Do you guys have a favorite period

24:46

of time that you- Just sorry, before you move on from

24:48

pussy. Yeah. Chicken

24:50

pussy. Say whatever you gotta say. One,

24:53

in terms of your guys' relationship. For

24:55

a play. Yeah, but in terms of your

24:57

guys' relationship, I remember when they, when

25:00

Leslie had a way of saying pussy

25:03

and Lenny said nobody was

25:06

going to understand it if she said it like that.

25:09

That was like a behind

25:11

the scenes classic moment of the

25:13

turn to show. Why nobody was recording that? Because that's

25:15

literally how we found pussy. No,

25:17

no, no. You said it like poof-ooh. No, I

25:20

did not. It's like you like this pussy. You

25:23

like this pussy. You like this pussy.

25:25

I can say it every kind of way. You

25:27

gonna fuck with this pussy. That definitely felt

25:29

like a moment of seeing your

25:31

two's relationship. Just as you were just going

25:34

at it over the wrong way,

25:36

or the right way to say pussy, it was like, wow. I'm really,

25:38

this is worth every podcast. You can't tell

25:40

me how to say pussy, you don't even gotta fucking pussy.

25:42

Yes, sir. I don't tell you how to say fucking dick. Yesterday

25:45

she goes on stage, right? With a

25:47

full set list, okay? That we'd come

25:49

up with that I wanted to run in a specific order. And

25:51

I was bored, I was bored. She's bored, she goes, you

25:53

know what, I was gonna do these jokes, but I'm so bored.

25:56

She says that for 200 people.

25:58

Yeah. Yeah. And

26:00

then goes,

26:00

hey, and I'm sitting in the balcony ready to take notes

26:03

on this. What should I talk about? What

26:05

should I talk about? Lenny. Lenny?

26:07

Are you fucking

26:08

kidding me? Lenny, what the fuck should I talk about? So we

26:10

have this bid that she can do, which

26:12

I've been dying to get her to do, because it's going to be

26:14

big, but she refuses to believe me about

26:16

going to get a facial. We had done it on the show. It

26:19

killed on this show, right? I said, go on and get

26:21

a facial. I go, dude, go on and get a facial.

26:23

And this is what she does in front of 200 people. Oh!

26:28

Why? You think that's fucking

26:31

funny? Why? The next 10 minutes, she absolutely

26:33

blows the roof off the place telling the story

26:35

about a face show. That's because

26:38

I'm

26:38

good at my job, son. Finally, 10 minutes

26:40

goes by, blows the roof off the place, and I just go,

26:43

you're welcome. Where's my

26:45

thank you? I was like, oh my God. Now we're

26:47

having this show within a show at the comic strip. I was like, oh

26:49

my God. It's just like a Jewish person. You

26:51

always want to fucking thank you. What is that stereotype

26:54

that you started a whole racist sidebar? You

26:57

can't even fucking say thank you in Jews.

26:59

Jewish. So the lady

27:01

had a... So I go to Dara Baa and then you're

27:03

like... That's not racist at all. For me to start

27:05

poplocking so it's like... And

27:10

then after

27:13

she

27:13

shits on me for the next 10 minutes because I have

27:15

no possible way to respond. She

27:17

just goes, so now what do I do next? Are

27:19

you fucking serious? Exactly. But

27:21

I was funny though. You were great. I'd be

27:23

perfectly fine if we could replace some of the existing

27:25

Jewish stereotypes with Jews

27:28

like, thank yous, that would be a good one.

27:31

If that was the worst one we had.

27:33

No, no. You know those Jews.

27:35

The Shabbat Shalom.

27:38

Yeah, no,

27:40

the Shabbat Shalom, the dude that turns

27:42

off the life of people. The Shabbat Shabbat.

27:44

The Shabbat Shabbat. The Shabbat Shabbat

27:46

Shabbat. I want that job. 20 minutes on what's the

27:48

Shabbat Shabbat? Elvis. Elvis

27:50

Presley was the Shabbat Shabbat in Memphis.

27:52

He was the Shabbat Shabbat. Jewish neighbors

27:55

and they would hire him to come over. Elvis, are you

27:57

fucking kidding me? I'm not. You said that

27:59

I could-

28:00

I'll get you, I'll try it for that job.

28:02

I wanna be this Gustavus toy. I

28:05

think Louis Armstrong also was a,

28:07

see, the strongest guy has left his building.

28:10

You're holding me back from my real fucking calling.

28:12

The amount of things I learned from Daniel

28:15

Radosh is insane. Man,

28:17

the other day he taught us about flamingos. You

28:20

guys are amazing together too. Wait a minute, you don't know about flamingos?

28:22

I mean, not like that their legs

28:24

are so thin, what was it? No,

28:26

it's their pink because they eat shrimp. Yeah, I thought we would do that.

28:29

That they're standing at in it like

28:31

they're almost their knees or something when they're standing

28:34

up in there But like their legs are truly long.

28:36

Yeah, I know a lot of things about Flaming

28:39

they can stand it like They

28:42

can like standing pure acid, but I you know, yeah,

28:45

they're crazy They're fucking insane.

28:47

They're gonna be left on earth and birds

28:49

cuz birds are Satan's

28:55

If you knew some of the things that

28:56

birds did, anyway, this show

28:58

could go so many ways. This show could go so

29:00

many ways. Oh, man. But,

29:03

um, great pushies, though. Yeah. Of

29:05

course. Way to bring it back. Of course. Way to

29:07

bring it back. Way to bring it back. Way to bring it back.

29:10

See, that's why he the head writer. What's your favorite?

29:12

We'll go around. What's your favorite thing about

29:14

the job? Do you have a favorite aspect of it? Like,

29:18

is it just the actual show itself? Does

29:20

that give you the high when you see it come to life? Or

29:22

what's your favorite? Go ahead. I'll tell you,

29:25

just working with these guys, I think, is

29:26

my favorite part of the job. And

29:29

every time people come from outside the

29:31

show, they always mention like,

29:33

wow, you guys are so professional. It feels like you guys

29:35

like each other. It feels like you

29:38

guys enjoy spending time together and don't despise

29:40

each other. And we really do.

29:43

And I think that the more I hear that from people,

29:45

the more I realize like, wow, we've got a good thing

29:47

going. We just enjoy spending time together.

29:49

And I think the show has gone through so

29:51

many different eras. And there's been eras where,

29:54

you know, there's been a lot of like critics of the show, especially

29:56

like after john left and trevor came on there's

29:59

always this

30:00

There's a period of time where everybody was, you

30:02

know, Trevor was new and people didn't, you know, the

30:05

show took a hit in critical reviews. And the

30:07

way we kind of all bonded over that, I think, has given us sort

30:09

of like a tested by fire kind of

30:11

mentality. And I just, you know, I love these guys. I would

30:13

go through fire with them. And I think that's kind of what I like

30:16

more than. Well, I think that's what we liked about it too. And I'll

30:18

let you guys finish what we love. Your chemistry

30:20

is palpable. And we've

30:23

been, we've said, we've said this before, we

30:25

sat through, other production teams

30:27

and companies. And I mean, they got chemistry,

30:30

they hate each other. I mean, they're backstabbing

30:32

each other all the way, you can see it. It's happening right in front of

30:34

me. And it's just like,

30:35

it's really bad. Okay, go ahead, what do you love

30:37

about it? I would say

30:39

the family feel, which is you could have just said

30:42

family feel. I could have. Yeah, instead

30:44

of this long thing. And I love it. I love

30:46

David. David, that's it. David, when I first

30:48

got there, David was like, I'm the guy that you can complain

30:50

to if you need to. And I was like, what? They sent in

30:52

the black dude? They sent in the fucking black dude. And

30:55

then he was like, yeah, but yeah. And I

30:57

talked to me and I was like, okay,

30:59

I like him. I like him. We had so many

31:02

side dialogues going

31:04

on. We had so many

31:05

side monologues. We

31:09

were dying on the side with our side jokes.

31:12

I loved it. Kabooka will very much be the guy that after

31:14

we spend like 30 minutes talking

31:16

about a

31:17

story that's some dead ceiling issue

31:19

and how to phrase it, after we're finally done

31:21

with it, like, okay, this is the proper way to tell

31:23

the story. Kabooka will be like,

31:25

this is not a funny show.

31:28

You

31:28

know? Like, okay, let's not do the

31:31

story. And that's why, and I love that.

31:33

I love

31:34

that. Okay, the thing that I really

31:36

love, like we would, like I would be

31:38

trying to say something and then Daniel would be like,

31:41

he would just say it and I'd be like, yeah motherfucker,

31:43

you in my head, like with the words going.

31:47

Then like y'all were just so quick

31:49

and I loved it. I loved it. I'm gonna

31:51

say Jen for last, but yeah, Great Ash, what's your?

31:54

I mean, I think that you guys are getting

31:56

at something that,

31:57

because we are comfortable with each other.

32:00

We can just throw out jokes all

32:02

the time, and I mean, like toss

32:04

them around. And I think that's actually the thing that

32:06

I enjoy most, is the jokes that we know are never gonna

32:08

get on the air, either because

32:11

they're like

32:12

terrible jokes, or they're just

32:14

like no one outside of a room of comedy

32:16

writers is gonna laugh at them. But

32:19

like we all know,

32:20

we're all sitting, like we're all cool with that. So we can

32:22

toss those jokes around, partly because

32:25

we all know and like each other, but also we know, oh, that's

32:27

gonna get us to something that will

32:29

work on the show. And so just having that freedom,

32:32

like I am not at

32:34

all worried about saying a really dumb

32:36

joke that no one will laugh at. Because

32:38

yeah,

32:39

of course that's gonna happen, but I just have

32:41

to do that because then you know, the third

32:43

time I'll get a joke that some people will laugh

32:46

at, so. Yeah, but that's what's so dope too. Y'all

32:48

are grown as fuck, like grown.

32:50

That's grown acting. Does that make sense?

32:53

Like you're not insecure. You don't make

32:55

someone feel insecure. It was

32:57

just a grown thing that I always

32:59

got from y'all. Like, even when we would

33:02

get out of the way, you would come straight

33:04

in and go, okay, you guys stick to it. And

33:06

it's just like a ship. Like, if you're on a ship

33:09

and then somebody's

33:09

like, Ms. Rowan, he comes over like, hey,

33:11

pick that up. Because they're doing this way and

33:14

you're doing this way. Like, that is fucking

33:16

like, I love that. I loved it. It's

33:19

just so grown.

33:20

I will say the sorry to

33:22

jump in.

33:24

The things you are saying, I thought

33:26

that they happened everywhere. No,

33:28

no, no. See, and

33:31

that's that's what we came into this. It's

33:33

a bubble. It's a beautiful bubble. Y'all have a beautiful

33:35

bubble, because like even comparing like

33:38

again, I can say S&L S&L is a two

33:41

job thing, but it's like kind

33:43

of

33:44

chaotic sometimes. And I think it has

33:46

to be sometimes with the host and all of that.

33:48

But y'all had it's like,

33:51

I think because S&L tries to

33:53

squeeze so hard onto the principles

33:55

that they have that they that

33:58

but you guys were so like

34:01

You know what I mean? Like you stay, like

34:03

there would be things that you would come and be like,

34:05

hey babe, we gotta cut this, but look,

34:08

I'm gonna put this on. And it's, that's,

34:10

we wouldn't get that explanation at SNL and be like, yeah,

34:12

we cutting this. And you'd be like, why?

34:15

Oh yeah, well. Why you asking? You

34:18

know why, like, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, no,

34:20

but it was just respectful. It was like, yeah,

34:23

but we gonna put this online. See, we don't think, like

34:25

it was more of like, hey, we don't think that joke is gonna

34:27

work because like we're not gonna get what we need

34:29

to get out of this. There was one joke we was working

34:31

on and you were like, I understand what you're trying to do,

34:33

but we're not gonna get what that is.

34:36

If we do it this way though, we'll get that. And

34:38

I was like, yeah, I'm gonna fight. Yeah, we're

34:40

impressed with that process. That shit's dope.

34:42

Because usually we have to get involved in that process. Yes, usually we're

34:44

the ones that

34:45

have to come in and go, no, you

34:47

have to do it this way and whoop whoop whoop.

34:49

And it's just then you have to deal with the egos

34:52

because then they have egos because the word renounce,

34:55

Jesus wept. I want that

34:57

word to be marked from the fucking

34:59

earth because whenever anyone say, where are we now? To

35:02

me, I go, we're in for a shit fucking,

35:04

we're in for a shit fucking show. There's

35:06

two things that make us a little cringy when

35:09

it comes to working with people. It's one is they say

35:11

they're the best in the business or they're world-renowned,

35:14

or they

35:15

went to Harvard for some reason. Since we

35:17

are Harvard, the hair's

35:19

in the back of my neck. There's so many people

35:21

at SNL that have that Harvard yell. And

35:23

I didn't, listen, when I first came, I am

35:26

ghetto, and I will tell you straight up, I'm ghetto,

35:28

I'm ghetto, going to Compton College. That's

35:31

big for me. Like, what the fuck? Like, it's

35:33

a college. So

35:34

I think I made the mistake and

35:37

said somebody went to Yale and they went to,

35:39

and when I say that person did not talk to me,

35:42

like was not fucking with me, and I was like, do you

35:44

know how much black people don't get?

35:46

Like, Harvard and Yale is the

35:48

same fucking thing to us,

35:51

motherfucker. They're Ivy League,

35:53

right? Y'all got that green shit on your fucking

35:55

brick? Isn't that what the fuck it means? Just

35:58

like, I would be happy to get.

36:00

in either one, like Yale sister, what's

36:02

Yale sister? Like it was,

36:04

it's just so pretentious. Yeah,

36:06

the pretentiousness really sinks him and you

36:08

can't be pretentious around Leslie because she didn't come

36:11

from that. Oh my God, and so you say well

36:13

renowned. You say well renowned to me, I'm well renowned.

36:15

You been to Compton? Yeah. No,

36:18

cause Compton's in the world. And if you been

36:20

to Compton, then you would be able to deal with me. So

36:23

you're not well renowned. And to be

36:25

honest with you, we've seen a lot of comedy. So

36:27

it's like when they like that does not move

36:30

the needle for us. So as soon

36:31

as they say it's like, uh oh, start

36:33

the clock because for Leslie, because

36:36

if they would like what show me some

36:38

stand up.

36:39

I've been doing comedy so long

36:41

and seen so many like they

36:43

don't understand my history of entertainment

36:46

is like, I know every formula like

36:49

Abbott Elementary is a perfect example. Abbott

36:51

Elementary is really funny, but Abbott

36:53

Elementary is not really doing

36:56

anything different than the rules of sitcom.

36:59

They just got good writers, they got good actors,

37:01

and they got like their facial expression. They're working

37:04

every best type thing,

37:06

and people are ready for that again. Like

37:09

you

37:09

could look back at our old sitcoms

37:11

and stuff. People are ready for that written

37:13

type of thing again. You know, so it's

37:15

like when people test that in

37:17

me, like I can, like, ooh, again,

37:21

when people will put me in sketches and stuff, and

37:24

I know your joke better than you. I know

37:26

what joke you're trying to crack. Please let me

37:28

do it this way. Sometimes I just wouldn't

37:30

even ask. I would just do it because then

37:33

they can see it and they go, oh, she did

37:35

get the joke. Yeah, I got it better than you because

37:37

I'm a fucking comic.

37:39

You know what I'm saying? And

37:41

I believe him. I've been doing comics since 87. I

37:45

got history. I'm not gonna, if I don't feel

37:47

like, I let everybody do their job and

37:49

that's the thing that I loved about that place is that I

37:51

didn't have to do somebody else's fucking job.

37:54

I wonder if you, and I'm not going

37:56

to get into comedy theory and shit again,

37:58

But I wonder if like if you think, if you

38:01

found a difference between people from the stand-up

38:03

world versus people from like the improv or sketch world.

38:05

Oh, no question. It feels like stand, and I don't know

38:07

this, but I come from the improv sketch world where

38:09

it feels like, why would you do comedy if it's not gonna be

38:11

collaborative and doing the people and making each

38:14

other laugh? That's funny. That's so funny, because

38:16

that's completely different. That's fucking hilarious, because like

38:18

when I came to SNL, I didn't have

38:20

respect for sketch comics, because I was like,

38:23

yeah, you motherfuckers, this is the ones who can't tell the jokes.

38:26

Y'all have to depend on other motherfuckers to say key

38:29

words for your shit to

38:30

be funny. Like go fuck yourself. And

38:32

then I sat at a table read

38:34

between Aidy Bryant

38:36

and Taryn and then with a shot view

38:38

to Kenan and Cecily. And

38:40

I was, my fucking brain exploded.

38:43

These motherfuckers was turning on and off

38:46

into accents. And it

38:48

was just like, oh shit,

38:51

I can't do that. Like,

38:54

whoa, it was just another level

38:57

of you got to like, okay, maybe you just

38:59

haven't been seeing the best in the business, like

39:01

do it. It's a different skill for sure. It's a

39:03

different skill. You can also get poisoned

39:05

by the attitude each one brings. Well,

39:08

it's just like what I had to learn was is

39:10

that with comedy, you're just

39:12

yourself so you can do that. With

39:16

sketches, you have to put it into a situation.

39:18

You can't just be on some free land

39:21

shit. That's just one joke that they try so

39:23

hard to write. And I was like, we end up

39:25

doing it as an update And they tried to

39:27

do it as an update was about the pets.

39:30

But I don't know if you ever heard me talk

39:32

about the pet commercial, one of the eyes

39:34

of a stranger. Oh, it was. Oh yeah, yeah,

39:36

yeah. Sarah McLaughlin. Yeah, yeah. So they

39:38

tried so hard to make that into a fucking

39:41

update. And I ended up

39:44

rewriting it with men because

39:46

it made it funnier. But

39:48

yeah, yeah. Anyway,

39:51

that's a whole nother. It's just a different

39:53

skill. I mean, you could teach

39:55

Leslie a little bit about how to do sketch

39:57

comedy, I think, But the other way, a lot

39:59

of those

40:00

people

40:01

teaching them to do like stand up

40:03

well. That's going to take a little. Oh, I believe

40:05

that. For sure. But getting back to where I

40:07

was, I want to make sure we finish. Wait, we'll get to Jen.

40:09

Did we finish with Dan? Was the what was your favorite?

40:11

Favorite that

40:14

we

40:14

had a catered lunch once a week. He's

40:17

not even lying. He's not even lying. He's

40:19

not. It's from an outside restaurant. Yeah. It's

40:21

not like a caterer. It's like a real restaurant

40:24

like Hell's Kitchen. We

40:27

finished the script. We go downstairs,

40:30

it's like, it could be empanada

40:32

mama. It could be

40:34

car mines. And in addition

40:37

to the family, and we all got along and stuff. Hey,

40:39

man, as far as bosses are concerned, you're

40:42

easy to shop for, you know, for reward. Oh,

40:44

my god. Jen, straighten us out. Then people

40:46

love me, because I love bringing food

40:49

places. So it might be more than once a week

40:51

if I go. Oh, Jesus. Jen,

40:53

what's your fave?

40:54

We had field trip the week you guys were there,

40:56

remember? Oh, yeah. What do you mean? field trip

40:59

the restaurant. We were like, guys, there's free food.

41:01

It's down through. You guys liked it. Yes, it

41:03

was good. That was good. It was the bomb.

41:05

But Dan is not kidding. That's why I was like, hard. He

41:08

loves the lunch. That is so funny.

41:10

Do you have a favorite? I have a favorite.

41:12

I mean, they stole my answer. But

41:15

I do love the people there. And

41:17

I love that I can wake up and

41:19

want to go to work every day. That

41:21

is because of the people there. It's because the topic.

41:24

We're covering the news, so we're just talking about things that

41:26

I want to be talking about anyway. Everything

41:29

about this job like fits me. I

41:32

like to look at problems and try and

41:34

solve them. So like, I just feels

41:37

like, yeah,

41:39

I love it. And I love like I used

41:41

to cram for tests and papers. Like I never

41:43

did my homework on time. And this

41:45

is cramming all the time. And then

41:47

you can forget it just like a paper in college. You

41:50

do it, you get it done and then you don't have to remember

41:52

it unless you're Daniel. And then you remember everything. Yeah,

41:55

college. I just study at 2 o'clock

41:56

in the morning. Get it all jammed in. like

41:59

a mountain. all night, you know? I didn't

42:01

even need Mountain. I was just an excited motherfucker.

42:04

So I was just pop, pop, pop. And I always made

42:06

Bs and As and shit. So it

42:08

was how to fuck. Yeah. And then that

42:10

feels kind of like this. Like I'm like, oh, we're getting As

42:13

most As.

42:13

Some As Bs. Let me ask you a follow up on

42:15

that. How do you keep it like that? How do

42:18

you keep the environment like that? How do you get

42:20

people? How do you weed out people? I mean,

42:22

we've hired people. We've hired people

42:24

that, Leslie, we thought were good. And

42:26

this is literally the first thing that

42:29

we said when we left, right Lenny, remember?

42:32

How does she do it? Is that

42:33

if she was the show runner on Supermarket

42:36

Sweep, we would still be doing

42:38

Supermarket Sweep. You know my mom loves Supermarket

42:40

Sweep. Motherfucker, if you was the

42:42

show runner, you would have.

42:46

I got sweatshirts, I send her a shirt too. But

42:48

I got a sweatshirt though, that's what you do.

42:50

My mother was very happy with the t-shirt.

42:53

She's so happy. No,

42:55

I think it's really important to identify

42:58

good talent and then promote

43:00

them and encourage them and put them in positions

43:02

where, especially for- You're

43:03

making that sound very easy, it's not. Okay. I'll

43:06

say this, I'll say this. Jen's dad has been running

43:08

a hospital for years

43:10

and years. So the, what do they say? The apple

43:12

does not fall far from- Yeah, cause running

43:15

a hospital, that is, no, for real. I

43:17

watch Grey's Anatomy.

43:17

Yeah, it's a lot of like crisis management

43:20

all the time. And like being really flexible. Nobody

43:22

dies, so that's a little better than that. I always say that,

43:24

I always say that, Tim. I'm like, thanks for the management

43:26

tips. And also, I don't have to worry about people dying.

43:28

You know what, honestly, though? Except the time you choked on

43:30

a bagel. And I did have to worry about you

43:32

dying. Wait a minute. You did. What did you choke

43:35

on

43:35

a bagel? This has been exaggerated. Oh

43:37

my god. You choked on a bagel one time. And

43:41

it becomes your thing. Now,

43:44

that's an existing Jewish territory. It is.

43:46

But I'm very Jewish. I'm like a Jewish

43:48

mother. I got very nervous. One time, and it

43:50

becomes a big thing in the office.

43:52

I was just going to give you a big compliment, Jen. But I might

43:55

hold it back. No, I will say no. You know

43:57

how one reason Jen can do it all?

44:00

She knows how to do everyone's job. I

44:02

think a lot of times the boss actually doesn't

44:04

know what everyone does and how to do it. So

44:06

like Jen knows if somebody is not

44:09

doing their job right or how they can do it better

44:11

and she can help them do it. I

44:14

started there 25 years ago, thank you for that. Right, and what

44:16

were you when you started? A PI. A PI, literally

44:18

that's incredible. Not only do you

44:20

know how to do their job, you know how to clean

44:23

up after their job. I sometimes tell

44:25

clean up. Cause like, wow. That

44:27

is... Let me ask you this as well while we're on

44:29

it. Does

44:30

the business side affect the creative ever?

44:33

I think we try really hard

44:35

not to let it. The only thing that I think, like

44:38

I think deadlines and that kind of business

44:40

side, every once in a while budget,

44:42

but really ratings and stuff, we're just

44:44

like, ratings are, who

44:46

knows, like everybody watches our show online

44:49

pretty much on their phones. So

44:51

we try not to let like ratings or

44:54

like

44:54

press influence the

44:56

way we're making a show. Comedy Central bust your chops

44:59

on that issue Sometimes I

45:01

say call me when it gets real bad Like

45:05

I used to talk to Chris licks

45:08

and Mike Shoemaker we used to have a dinner

45:10

where a bunch of showrunners would get together and like talk

45:12

about the shows and they would be like Shoemaker

45:14

and I would laugh cuz Chris cared about his minute by minutes

45:17

and I didn't even I was like I don't even know if we get minute

45:19

by minute It's like our ratings because I

45:21

think and John used to say this all the time But

45:23

like if we think it's funny in here somebody

45:26

will think it's funny out there. And I just feel

45:28

like we just live by that. It's

45:30

funny how you say we were doing Supermarket

45:32

Sweep and Leslie would be like, you could

45:34

see the throw to commercial coming because we've

45:37

played the game and whatever and then the music would

45:39

start up and they show us minute by minute, like

45:41

you know it goes down as soon as that music starts

45:43

up and like, how do you want to avoid

45:45

that? Like how do you want to avoid

45:48

that happening? We played the game. We'll

45:50

be right back with round two. Yeah.

45:53

Of course it's gonna go down. People are gonna flip the chat. One

45:56

thing that I can say is that you

45:58

guys knew how to use the

46:00

online aspect because social

46:03

is something that SNL did have to

46:06

like they did good after you know, and Andy

46:10

Samberg, Samberg. Yeah, I never get

46:12

that shit, right? You know, he

46:14

came with his group and did they you

46:16

know, then it was like three or four pretakes

46:18

But the way that you know how to shoot

46:20

certain things to online cuz that is

46:23

really what's gonna be the future and

46:25

I keep telling and everybody to think ahead

46:27

because we are going to get to a point to where,

46:30

because now they're getting rid of cable boxes now.

46:32

Like, it's like I can watch I

46:34

can watch live TV on an

46:37

app now. So it's, you

46:39

know, that that is our

46:41

we call them our expansion team. It's anything

46:44

digital, social or like

46:46

real brick and mortar

46:48

in the real world. They take care of. But Ramin

46:51

and Jocelyn and Ryan that work

46:54

on that team, they're just like amazing

46:56

and they really are like tuned into what people yeah

46:59

what are catching people's eyes and how can we amplify

47:01

those things and yeah

47:03

we're lucky we really Trevor kind

47:06

of when he started as host he

47:08

was

47:08

you know of he was so much younger than other

47:11

late night hosts at the time so we he

47:13

was like oh you guys like really don't have a presence

47:16

on like Twitter and we were here

47:17

unfortunately he did yeah first person

47:20

they get canceled ever and we We

47:25

had to deal with it. Oh, Trevor got canceled?

47:28

No. Yeah, because I'm- Attempted

47:30

cancer. It's like a attempted murder. where

47:32

he was just like, no, but I don't care. And we were like, oh,

47:34

you can do that. And then we all just moved on. Yeah,

47:36

and I was just about to say, it's like, don't nobody

47:38

have to acknowledge your cancer.

47:41

That's like somebody saying, you don't like me. Oh,

47:44

oh, oh, I'm sorry. Bitch,

47:47

I move on. Like,

47:49

and I'm gonna say it right now. And

47:52

whatever, we can cut it out. I don't give a fuck. I

47:54

want this fucking job. I want that job. And

47:57

I didn't even want the job when

47:59

I came. How? literally

48:00

didn't want to live back in New York. I was like, I don't

48:02

want to live here in New York. New York destroys

48:04

me. It takes my body and destroys me. It runs

48:06

it over by cabs or whatever. But I was like,

48:08

I'm going to learn how to fucking live in New York, which I've

48:10

just been coming back and whatever. Because I'm like,

48:13

this is the first time I've ever felt in the pocket.

48:16

Like I felt like, OK, well,

48:18

even the floor

48:21

support, the cameraman, the room,

48:24

everybody is like, the whole

48:26

goal is to make the show look

48:29

bomb. And that's like real,

48:32

you know, and then to get along with people, like

48:35

I loved everybody, everybody, like I loved

48:37

everybody. And when I say grown,

48:39

that's when I say, when I say

48:42

grown, I mean reasonable. Does that make sense?

48:44

It's like sometimes I've dealt with people in this business

48:46

and you go, you know, that's not reasonable

48:48

what you're saying to me right now. That's just not, and

48:51

then they all be on this cloud of like,

48:53

Oh well, you know, we're just blessed to be in

48:55

this bitch. No,

48:56

bitch, I'm not finna sacrifice 10

48:59

years off my life to be blessed,

49:01

ho. Like I didn't get up to heaven, and

49:03

then God be like, you was doing all that blessing

49:06

and you could have been living. You know what I'm saying? Like the

49:08

fuck, you know? So that's

49:10

the one. And then too, I

49:12

have a real passion. Like

49:14

I have a mission. I

49:17

feel that there's a mission. There's

49:19

a mission right now. Everybody to me is

49:21

like ants. they're like scattered. And

49:23

I really feel there needs to be a flow.

49:26

And that show to me is

49:28

the perfect

49:30

vessel for flow. So

49:32

like, again. Being pulling people together.

49:35

Can I fucking finish motherfucking? That's what I'm

49:38

doing. Let me explain what the fuck I'm gonna say.

49:40

How you know that I wasn't gonna follow that shit with

49:42

an explanation. You always interrupt

49:44

me. Does anybody interrupt Martin Luther King

49:46

when he told me? Like

49:48

he said, I have a dream. Did anybody go, was

49:51

it a nightmare? Or was anybody running

49:53

through? No, they let him finish his goddamn

49:55

speech. Go ahead, Dr. King. Chingarasito.

49:58

Bye.

50:00

Now where the fuck was I had a flow anyway

50:03

the flow is what I was

50:05

saying

50:07

Go ahead flow. Oh You

50:09

made me forget what I was gonna explain what a

50:11

flow is Yeah,

50:15

it's very easy to write for

50:17

someone like Leslie like you you have a You

50:20

have like you have a strong comedic voice and I think

50:22

that like it's very it's easy It's easy

50:25

to just build a show around a

50:27

strong comedic voice. It's easy to write

50:30

for it. It's easy

50:32

to produce around it. It's just when

50:34

you have a vision and a voice. And I think

50:36

a lot of,

50:37

well, I mean, everybody who's

50:40

gotten to where you guys are has

50:42

a voice, or they wouldn't. But it's very easy

50:45

among a lot of just comedians just

50:47

to have not, even

50:49

if

50:50

there are comedians who don't understand that even

50:52

a good joke might not be their joke. And

50:54

I think that you really ascend to another level of

50:56

comedy when you're like, this is great, it's not me,

50:59

what's in me? And I think you have

51:01

that.

51:02

Because you learn, you learn, you learn,

51:04

and to you experience whatever it is that

51:06

you're talking about. So like, I don't like to talk

51:08

about things that I don't have like a

51:11

passion for or experience doing. And

51:13

that's what I was gonna say before I was fucking

51:15

interrupted is that when I'm saying

51:17

a flow in a vessel,

51:20

it's like when I was at SNL, I used to see how

51:22

much they would affect people with some of

51:24

the news that they would put out and stuff, like

51:26

the people they would have portraying certain roles.

51:29

That just really does, people do pay

51:31

attention. That show to me, Daily

51:33

Show, is one of those shows that is exactly

51:36

what it's supposed to be like, I'm gonna tell you

51:38

exactly what's going on, but we're gonna laugh about

51:40

this shit. Like, cause I don't want you sitting there crying.

51:42

You gotta look at the funny shit about this, because then

51:45

it's like almost like smacking somebody, like

51:47

smacking somebody with a cold slap, like, oh,

51:50

you know how you could be talking to somebody and then you say

51:52

something and then they go, You're right.

51:55

That's what that show is to me. You

51:58

know what I'm saying? I feel like...

52:00

That's what I want to do on

52:02

stage. That's what I actually do on stage

52:04

too, and I'm just

52:08

There

52:08

it is You

52:09

want to interrupt me now you guys say no Because

52:12

I know you fucking said I know we got a fucking question.

52:14

I have a funny questions. I got In

52:19

fact you like no one's gonna argue that

52:21

I'm gonna get off you know that No

52:25

the fucking judge is gonna be like this jail This is

52:28

the daily show, Leslie Jones. The judge

52:30

is going to be like, I know that. He was annoying. He

52:32

was fucking annoying. You know what's great about having both of you

52:35

guys in the room, and this reminds me. No,

52:39

because everybody

52:39

who's coming in is bringing a

52:42

writer or a person with them. And some

52:44

of them are like, a super funny person. This other

52:46

person, the guest, as far as, is a super funny writer. But

52:49

it's the same sense of humor. It's the same sense of

52:51

ability. So you're not adding

52:53

as much value or completely

52:55

different sense of humor. But the guest was like, I'm never

52:57

going to do that joke. I'm not. That's not of interest. And he's like,

53:00

well,

53:00

then that's also not angry. You guys,

53:02

it's like you obviously hate each other.

53:09

But you make it work. But you love

53:11

it. You know what I'm saying? It's like we're like divorce

53:14

people that decided to stay friends. Yeah.

53:16

Or divorce people that decide to marry for some

53:18

reason. No,

53:21

it's like that's that was a super

53:23

helpful dynamic in the room Because by watching you

53:26

guys do that, we're like, OK, we know how we

53:28

can say something. And if you say

53:30

that joke sucks, we're like, yeah, but you said

53:32

that to Lenny. So we know it doesn't mean we're

53:34

all in trouble. Yeah, yeah.

53:37

And then Lenny too would say to me, he was like,

53:39

oh man, I like this though.

53:40

Because me, I have to, I like

53:42

comedy. I like comedy. And I like all

53:44

facets of it. But I do think this

53:46

way. So if somebody comes up, like Zubin

53:48

did that a lot too. He would throw something out. I'd be like, motherfucker,

53:51

I ain't even thinking. I love that. I love.

53:54

See, a lot of comics don't like that. A lot of comics

53:56

like to be like, no don't write my shit and

53:58

you know but that's a

54:00

And I want to tell every comic, if you're listening, that

54:02

is a phase. You will just, if

54:04

you can be really to the

54:06

business, go through that and get

54:08

over it. Because

54:09

it's, when me and Roy was talking about that, it's

54:11

always good to get somebody that's on

54:13

the outside of your shit. I'm telling you, Lenny

54:16

will tell me something one time and I'll be like, like,

54:18

he'll be like, I'll be like, why this joke is not

54:20

fucking working when he was like, because you're not saying

54:23

it. Like he'll say it and then I'll

54:25

be like, oh,

54:26

oh, so when I'm saying it this way, like,

54:28

And we're good at that because we've

54:31

gotten to a level of, again,

54:33

grown. Like you grown, like being

54:36

grown is being able to work. Like being

54:38

grown is realizing that you, I

54:41

can't be Leslie Jones without

54:43

my support team. I can't be without Lenny,

54:45

without my assistant, without my glam

54:47

team. That's Leslie Jones.

54:49

And to be able to sit there and receive

54:52

it, yo, that's a lesson to learn

54:54

for everyone who work in this business. Yeah,

54:56

that's the difference between us. I roll alone. And

54:59

it works for me. No,

55:01

it is. There's something about not having an ego

55:04

and being able to laugh at other people's jokes

55:06

and perform other people's jokes. The

55:08

way that

55:10

everyone agrees it's written best, that's

55:13

what makes a good host. Well, it's also taking

55:16

in it from smart, talented, funny people. If you

55:18

have, we've taken it in from not talented,

55:20

unfunny. Yeah, because if y'all wasn't,

55:23

I would've been like, I don't trust that joke. Jesus Christ.

55:25

And I was like, but y'all jokes were so, and

55:27

it was just, I can't explain it, elevated to

55:30

a point of like, like

55:32

it's like y'all the front of the computer, and

55:35

then that day I came in, I saw the back of

55:37

the computer, all the wires and shit,

55:39

you know, that shit is just was like. It's just a little

55:41

guy in there. But no, it was just like.

55:44

The most elevated pussy jokes you'll ever

55:46

get on the Daily Show. It was so

55:48

dope though, cause it was just like, man, y'all was

55:51

just like sharp shooters, I would say something

55:53

and they was just like sitting back like, right,

55:55

that was that. I

55:58

was like, oh shit, they just...

56:00

shooting out jokes, I love it. I

56:02

was like, I would not only, I would only

56:04

go in that room maybe twice a month because

56:06

it was intimidating. I was like, oh no, I'm

56:09

not funnier than all of these people which is

56:11

exhilarating also because it's

56:14

like, but I got a pocket, like it's

56:16

like having a statue. Like, yeah, I

56:18

can't think of something but I think our

56:21

old God, so you can think of it. Dara. Yeah,

56:24

let's talk about the writers for one sec. How

56:26

do you evaluate

56:27

the people And like,

56:30

is there a lot of turnover that we don't know? You have 20

56:33

something writers in there. About 15

56:36

staff writers now, and there's not a lot of turnover.

56:38

Because as you guys know, it's a great place to work.

56:40

Yes. No, but that's dope though. People don't

56:43

want to leave. Cause it's like a train now. And

56:45

y'all know, that's what I said. Y'all know how to adjust

56:47

to every person that come in. It's

56:50

not like I walked in and y'all was like, no,

56:53

you're gonna do it this way. Like

56:55

Ellen was kind of like that. Like they was like, oh

56:58

yeah, You

56:58

can do what you want, you can be Leslie. And then when I came

57:01

in there, they had a whole blacksmith

57:03

ready to knock all the Leslie out of me,

57:05

like it was like. Yeah, it

57:07

was not.

57:08

Why would you have Leslie Jones come in

57:10

and host her show? Why? And

57:12

I not want you to be Leslie Jones, that's crazy. I never understood

57:15

that, I never understood that. And I always

57:17

tell people from again, I used to have to tell my manager,

57:19

I still have to always tell people, hey, I

57:21

am Leslie Jones. And the reason that I am

57:24

is because I don't fit in none of the fucking boxes.

57:26

Because if I did, I would be in families

57:28

in my 20s and 30s. I ain't changed. You

57:30

know what I'm saying? So it was something that I

57:32

had to build myself and make myself

57:35

what it is. So when I go in, yeah,

57:37

I love melting with someone

57:40

with their shit. Let's make a whole new recipe.

57:43

Because that's what we was doing. We was making recipes

57:45

every day there. And that shit

57:47

was dope. It has been really

57:49

fun. It's been fun, I think, for the writers also

57:51

to be able to latch onto different voices

57:54

every week

57:54

and hide for different voices. Yeah, that's

57:56

the question I have. I'm going to just do

57:58

you. Would y'all prefer. for one

58:00

host or would you like multiple hosts?

58:03

Host, host. That is a Gin

58:05

Flans question. I don't

58:08

know.

58:09

I'm

58:12

still trying to figure out, and I think all

58:14

of us are in the network. We don't

58:17

know what the answer they're gonna have to this is. But

58:19

I'm like, what is the next best version of The Daily

58:21

Show? We've done three

58:24

different versions. Now this whole mix

58:26

up thing feels really fun. And people are, I

58:29

think I'm trying to

58:31

also just stay in this moment of

58:34

being able, like we're working with

58:37

Marlon Wayans. You know, Luzzie

58:39

Jones, people that we don't usually get you

58:41

guys in the building to work with you. And

58:44

so I think it's been hard to

58:46

focus, this is the one thing bad about the stunt,

58:48

it's been really hard to focus on what's coming after

58:50

it because we're so deep in it. But

58:54

it's fun. I don't want to lose sight

58:56

of

58:57

what we're doing right now. But

58:59

I think it's hard to say. Is

59:03

it one voice that people need to

59:05

hear from? Then what is that voice? Or

59:09

I always think we have this really

59:11

strong team of correspondents at the show. So the

59:14

Daily Show is never really just one voice, which

59:16

is cool because you get to hear from

59:18

all different.

59:19

We have a team of

59:21

five correspondents and two contributors that are

59:24

just awesome, and they're all really funny

59:26

and they come at it from different angles and

59:28

so I think um yeah

59:30

I don't know I don't know what's gonna happen there. It says from

59:32

a writing perspective it's nice you know

59:35

it works different skill sets right like if you have the same host week

59:37

after week you can sort of hone your voice to theirs

59:39

and and you know get a higher hit rate. What's

59:41

nice about having different

59:44

guest hosts every week is that you know because

59:46

we have so many writers and what

59:48

our writers are really good at is kind of shooting different angles

59:51

it's not just like the joke it's also like where

59:53

they're coming at it it and how

59:55

the host reacts to different angles. I remember you, with

59:59

your week, there was that's story

1:00:00

about the classified

1:00:02

documents. And

1:00:06

it was about how Biden was now suddenly

1:00:09

called classified documents after like months of Trump doing

1:00:11

it. And there are hosts who would probably

1:00:13

be like,

1:00:14

well, this is now about Biden and how he

1:00:16

has to deal with their other hosts who are like, this isn't like Trump. But

1:00:19

the angle that you went with was, who the fuck

1:00:22

is the person who's just handing out these classified documents

1:00:24

to everybody? And that's something

1:00:26

that like you, and it's so easy once you're

1:00:28

like, that's my angle to then just write

1:00:30

up this whole like fun cutaway bit where you

1:00:32

just play this super high guy and

1:00:35

charge the classified documents. And then once, you know, cause

1:00:38

once we have that angle, then like the jokes are actually

1:00:40

pretty easy, you know? Cause the angle is just so funny,

1:00:42

you know? Yeah, that is pretty much

1:00:44

how we did the host. Like we just knew

1:00:46

what we would pitch to him and know what

1:00:49

kind of comedy they want to put out. After that,

1:00:51

you just kind of know. Yeah. All right, I got

1:00:53

one more question. So do

1:00:55

you have a proudest moment,

1:00:57

we'll save Gem for last, Is there a proudest moment, or

1:00:59

are the Emmys, or is

1:01:01

it the fact that you churn it out every day? Is it a daily

1:01:04

proud moment, or is there, like, what's the

1:01:06

proudest thing on

1:01:07

this show? Or most exciting

1:01:09

that you can remember, was there a time period

1:01:12

or one thing that

1:01:14

was most exciting for you that you went by? I mean, when

1:01:16

Leslie said chicken pussy, that was pretty

1:01:19

high up there. I was

1:01:21

gonna say,

1:01:21

getting the show back up on the air with Leslie

1:01:24

was one of the best moments. Yeah,

1:01:26

he's so nice. I was like, honestly.

1:01:28

Getting the show up in quarantine,

1:01:31

you know, the first week of that was fucking

1:01:34

crazy. I mean.

1:01:35

Every time we get the show back up from like.

1:01:38

Death.

1:01:38

Death, like Jon Stewart's leaving,

1:01:40

Trevor's first show was like, you know. And

1:01:43

making Jon's last show was also like, really,

1:01:46

you know, just felt really fulfilling. Like we gave

1:01:48

him this great moment that everybody got to work

1:01:51

on. But I think if for a show in quarantine,

1:01:54

first show up with Leslie after, Like, you know,

1:01:56

it really did bomb the staff, your energy

1:01:58

and just.

1:02:00

being excited, we're like, oh wait, we

1:02:02

could do it. We could do it without Trevor, it's gonna

1:02:04

be okay. And that was, I think everybody was really

1:02:06

proud of each other. I come

1:02:07

into every situation like, we

1:02:09

playing baseball? Like, that's,

1:02:12

you bring that first thing like, we playing baseball tonight,

1:02:14

the fuck, let's go. Like, it's like very,

1:02:17

very. But to stay with that

1:02:19

analogy, we're playing baseball in the major leagues.

1:02:21

And we have used this now, you guys are our gold

1:02:23

standard for, we're not taking any less. You

1:02:26

know what I mean? It's kinda sad. It's kinda been

1:02:28

fucked up for everybody after y'all

1:02:30

too, because it's like, oh no, now

1:02:32

we know that people can fucking do

1:02:35

their job right? Oh no, no, no, no. That can write

1:02:37

and produce and make a show in a day from

1:02:39

nothing

1:02:39

and it's just, no, no, no.

1:02:41

They were super impressive people out there. We were like,

1:02:44

we literally, it's hard to find. It's kind of sad because we've literally

1:02:47

been like, well, when I was on a daily show, there

1:02:49

was a guy who, whoa, whoa, this guy.

1:02:51

Don't tell us it can't be done because we can do everything in a day. This

1:02:54

guy told us that you can do everything. I'm like, Jen,

1:02:56

she would've, you know. She would've shot

1:02:58

me. It was like, God, it's not the best. You guys are such

1:03:00

an ego boost. It really is. Hearing

1:03:03

you talk about us is such an ego boost. Because we're

1:03:05

just doing our thing. Yeah, I don't

1:03:08

think we ever thought of ourselves as like,

1:03:10

nobody in the world is doing this. Nobody else

1:03:13

can do this. And you guys come in, you're like, no, you guys are. You

1:03:15

guys need to be told that. I've

1:03:18

told the writers. A couple of writers are stand-up

1:03:20

comics. And they come down to

1:03:22

the Comedy Cellar and they say, how is our experience?

1:03:24

Whatever I go. And they're like, even

1:03:26

if they think, oh, they've been there for a while and

1:03:29

like I was wonder if I go you should

1:03:31

stay there as long as you possibly can because

1:03:33

we've been out here and you don't understand

1:03:35

how good you have they're like really I'm like yes

1:03:38

you do not understand how good

1:03:40

it is that

1:03:40

bubble is. The guest host rotation has been

1:03:43

really funny with that because we just are we're in it

1:03:45

you know I was in it with John and we're in it with Trevor and

1:03:47

then the guest host come for a week and they're like

1:03:49

you guys are really efficient

1:03:52

you are really good at your jobs and we're like we

1:03:54

all

1:03:54

are. I mean, take

1:03:56

a bow, yeah. But we don't walk around saying

1:03:58

we're like the best in the biz. But we just

1:04:01

don't think about it. That precedes those people

1:04:03

who are the best in the biz usually don't have

1:04:05

to say that they're the best in the biz. Their actions

1:04:07

show it. I do think there is an

1:04:10

element of an understanding

1:04:13

that

1:04:14

each person really is trying to do

1:04:16

the best for the show. So

1:04:19

you'll have a conflict

1:04:22

with someone. But the base understanding

1:04:24

that you, that we are both trying

1:04:27

to do the best thing, Even

1:04:29

though I disagree with your way, I

1:04:32

do understand that you are trying to do

1:04:34

the best thing. Yes, you're trying to make

1:04:36

it as good as possible. I think that that helps,

1:04:39

at least helps me in whenever

1:04:42

you bump up with somebody, you know? That

1:04:45

kind of- That's great. That gets to something

1:04:47

actually, and Lenny, you asked like how we evaluate

1:04:49

writers. I'll tell you how we don't evaluate writers.

1:04:51

So it's one time back in the John era, one

1:04:54

of the

1:04:55

executive producers, his

1:04:57

name I won't mention, said,

1:04:59

you know what, we're gonna start having a joke of the week

1:05:02

and one writer will get a joke of the week. And

1:05:04

he thought it was like, this is gonna be such an ego

1:05:06

boost. And all of the writers

1:05:09

who could have been like, yeah, I'm gonna get fucking joke

1:05:11

of the week. They were like, that is the worst

1:05:13

idea because the writers almost

1:05:15

in a way don't wanna know who made

1:05:17

which joke. They just wanna know that the show got

1:05:20

to the funniest possible place. So

1:05:23

no one wants to protect their own jokes, because that

1:05:25

means somebody can't improve on it. That's

1:05:27

right. Yeah, and now you're on that backstabbing

1:05:30

shit and on that, oh, this is this and this.

1:05:32

And you're right, the joke doesn't improve

1:05:35

because you're not going to tell somebody. And that's

1:05:37

the reason, too. A

1:05:40

lot of comedians don't have writers. I

1:05:43

love when I could tell him something and he'd be like, OK,

1:05:45

that's funny. Maybe we can woop-woop-woop this

1:05:47

and this, this and this. And then I'll take it to

1:05:51

the seller or to the

1:05:53

stripper or the comedy store or whatever and do

1:05:55

it. And then you have other comics that go, Dude,

1:05:58

add this and say this. This

1:06:00

could be one line. What's

1:06:02

the animal porn joke that I do? How

1:06:04

do you work your way up to a horse? Was

1:06:08

literally one of the best lines ever given to me in

1:06:10

that joke. We even, as like a testament to that

1:06:15

and how it's like

1:06:16

part of even the process, the little pieces

1:06:19

in the Slack channel where

1:06:21

we have like, OK, here's a formal

1:06:23

pitch. You know, this is you trying to

1:06:25

get on. But we also have a formal place to

1:06:27

go, Guys, I just have this idea.

1:06:30

Can everybody help with just this idea?

1:06:32

Journaled idea. You know that? Yeah, that's right. Well, it's your

1:06:34

process. It is amazing. And that's

1:06:36

why you guys are amazing. And that's why you guys

1:06:39

win awards. And we can't thank you enough

1:06:41

for coming in today. This has been incredible. And

1:06:43

I would win you more awards. Yes, Leslie would like

1:06:46

to win some awards and help you. I'm just letting you know that I

1:06:48

will win you awards. Yeah, I will not. Everybody's

1:06:50

fine, but I will win you awards. I think so. I won't not get you anything,

1:06:52

but I will pick up Dan's lunch from

1:06:54

any place you want. That's all I'm asking for. There you go. Guys,

1:06:57

thank you. Thank you guys. Danemara,

1:07:00

Daniel Radosh,

1:07:02

David Kabuka, Zubin

1:07:04

Prang and of course Jennifer

1:07:06

Flans. Thank you so much for coming. We

1:07:08

love you. We love you. Don't be strangers.

1:07:10

So fun for us. Oh my God, thank

1:07:12

y'all so much for coming in. This was like, I

1:07:14

was so excited. Then when it was like, I don't

1:07:17

think David was like, you tell David

1:07:20

to get his ass in here because

1:07:22

I want to see what's going on for you. You know what's crazy, by

1:07:24

the way? Just one small thing that's crazy. I was an attorney

1:07:27

for four years,

1:07:28

10 floors down from this floor. You

1:07:30

were in this building? When I walked in here, I had like,

1:07:33

the elevator door closed for a second, I thought, these

1:07:35

are gonna open back up, and I'm gonna be a lawyer

1:07:37

again. I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna be a lawyer

1:07:39

again. You should go on that floor right

1:07:41

now. I'm worried it'll stop and,

1:07:44

like, it'll be stuck and opened up like that. You should

1:07:46

go on that floor and be like, yeah, motherfuckers, I do

1:07:48

some shit. Yeah, bitches, I got Emmys. Yeah, bitches,

1:07:50

I got Emmys, bitches. Like, sticking

1:07:52

your boss's office like, I bet you watch me every

1:07:55

night. I'm sorry, who are you again?

1:07:57

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Leslie,

1:09:15

that was amazing. It was so fun. A

1:09:17

big thank you to the writers of the Daily Show. It was a

1:09:19

joy having them and hopefully we'll see

1:09:21

them again one day because we really

1:09:23

love them. Yes. All right,

1:09:25

so now let's

1:09:26

do the fuckery of the week. Fuckery

1:09:29

of the way. All

1:09:32

right, Leslie, you go first this week. What do you think?

1:09:34

Okay, so I'm going to go first. All right.

1:09:38

I think it's Tennessee that's passing a

1:09:40

law

1:09:41

that being, I think Tennessee

1:09:43

and Virginia too, or something is like passing

1:09:45

a law that it's illegal

1:09:47

to be transgender. They're also

1:09:49

trying to go after the interracial couples, which is

1:09:52

hilarious to me. It's

1:09:58

just, cause it's almost like, are we in?

1:10:00

a bad 80s movie? You

1:10:02

know what I'm saying? Like, is this the plot to 2-1-Fool 2?

1:10:06

Like, what the fuck is wrong with us? Like,

1:10:08

what is your fucking end game?

1:10:10

Like, what's your end game? And I never

1:10:13

understood, this is something for real,

1:10:15

from the beginning of all this mess,

1:10:18

I have never understood what

1:10:20

someone does in their bedroom have

1:10:23

to do with you. What

1:10:25

does anyone that identify,

1:10:27

I identify as a unicorn.

1:10:29

Seriously, I'm a goddamn unicorn.

1:10:33

What the fuck you gonna do? You

1:10:35

gonna go out and march against me being a fucking

1:10:37

unicorn? Like fuck, fuck off.

1:10:39

Like fuck off. You

1:10:41

can't tell me how to live my

1:10:44

life. Like, I mean, if I'm

1:10:46

not breaking the law, if I'm not,

1:10:48

like, how is this affecting your

1:10:50

children? Like we can go all the way back

1:10:53

to video games or

1:10:56

we can go to cartoons. There's so

1:10:58

many other things that's affecting

1:11:00

your child than someone

1:11:02

who is transgender or bisexual.

1:11:08

None of that shit has to, I don't get

1:11:10

it. I've never got it. It's

1:11:12

a fucking, what is the plot? What

1:11:15

is your fucking endgame? So I was like,

1:11:17

you know, I think

1:11:18

that this is

1:11:20

like a

1:11:22

distraction. I

1:11:25

think it has to be a distraction. It

1:11:27

has to be something like they're distracting

1:11:30

us with this bullshit so they can

1:11:32

do other shit because I can't

1:11:34

see people who call themselves

1:11:37

so intelligent

1:11:38

doing the most unintelligent

1:11:41

shit. It doesn't

1:11:44

make any fucking sense to me that you think

1:11:46

your child watching a drag show or

1:11:49

you taking out books, you

1:11:51

not doing anything but making that shit more

1:11:54

desirable

1:11:56

to your kid. That's all you're doing. Because

1:11:58

if I lived in a household where they...

1:12:00

I would seek it

1:12:02

harder just because you're

1:12:04

trying to keep it from us. Instead

1:12:06

of sitting down with your child

1:12:09

and actually having real conversations, see

1:12:11

what's happening to me, like I said, it's

1:12:13

got to be a distraction because is it that you don't

1:12:15

want to sit and have a good conversation

1:12:17

with your kid and explain to them what

1:12:19

sexual stuff is? Because

1:12:22

I have people explaining to me about

1:12:24

an identity for the long because I was like,

1:12:26

okay, so I don't understand. I

1:12:29

don't understand, like, Jenner, when

1:12:31

he became... I was like, I

1:12:33

don't understand. I mean, so, wait a minute, he's still dating

1:12:35

women, but wait a minute, he's dressed like I don't understand. And

1:12:37

Kate broke it down to me. She was like, it's not about

1:12:40

sex.

1:12:41

It's about identity.

1:12:43

You know what I'm saying? It's not about who I sleep

1:12:45

with. It's about identity. And

1:12:48

that makes so fucking much sense.

1:12:51

You don't have to understand

1:12:53

why I feel this way. Because

1:12:55

you're not paying for shit for me. You're

1:12:58

not paying my bills, I'm paying my taxes. I

1:13:00

am doing what I'm supposed to do as a fucking

1:13:02

human. So I just wonder

1:13:05

what is the fucking end game

1:13:07

to you

1:13:08

making a transgender person

1:13:10

illegal? You're just leading

1:13:13

to violence. You're giving

1:13:15

people permission to be violent

1:13:18

towards another person and it

1:13:20

just, here's a miracle. Well,

1:13:24

you know, there's

1:13:27

one party in the country now who

1:13:29

doesn't want to do anything. They want

1:13:31

to be in power, but they don't want to govern.

1:13:35

So the only way they could win

1:13:37

an election if you have no policies and

1:13:39

no ideas and no way

1:13:41

to

1:13:42

reach anybody is to start a culture war. And

1:13:45

those are the people like, oh, let's see who else can

1:13:48

whip up against transgender or minorities

1:13:50

or whatever. That's the only way they went. What that has

1:13:52

to do with

1:13:54

progressing states or

1:13:56

fixing roads or Healthcare

1:14:00

is nothing. Yeah, but it's the only

1:14:02

way they can win. So it's about- They're making it more balanced

1:14:04

though. It's just like you putting a group of people in fucking

1:14:07

trouble. And that's the way you- So sad.

1:14:10

Yeah, it's very sad. Instead of just fixing the bottle.

1:14:13

Just fix the fucking bottle. That's

1:14:15

all anybody wants. I don't

1:14:20

know if people know this about Leslie, but when she travels,

1:14:22

Leslie likes amenities. And

1:14:25

why not? If you got the cash, why

1:14:27

be treated like garbage? like first

1:14:29

class seats, airport lounges, concierge's

1:14:32

drivers and her favorite, the nice

1:14:34

hotel room. The boss loves

1:14:36

a good hotel room and myself, I

1:14:39

am very happy with, oh, I'm staying indoors

1:14:41

this trip? Sweet.

1:14:42

I don't need fancy. I need decent.

1:14:45

I need practical. These Leslie hotels

1:14:47

are very, very nice. Sometimes they're too fancy

1:14:49

because no matter how aesthetically beautiful, there's

1:14:52

always something quite not right. You

1:14:54

know, some fuckery hotel

1:14:56

edition. Like the Hilton in Richmond,

1:14:59

great location in town. We get there, the

1:15:01

lady behind the desk has no idea who Leslie is, kind

1:15:03

of hilarious. So funny. Then there's

1:15:06

some weird early check-in policy that suggests

1:15:08

we were supposed to be there the night before, so Lord

1:15:10

knows if they charged us to be

1:15:12

there

1:15:12

the night before. We don't even know, because their

1:15:14

early check-in policy should be way easier

1:15:17

in these places. Then they think

1:15:19

we're in the same room. Dude,

1:15:21

the clock is ticking on your imminent health. read

1:15:24

the reservation in front of you before

1:15:27

you speak. There's two rooms on that. Just

1:15:30

as Leslie's about to reach over the counter and boat

1:15:33

on boat, kill a bitch. I

1:15:35

was like, listen, I ain't no patient for this shit. You

1:15:37

know I want to go to sleep. They figure it out and

1:15:40

suddenly two rooms and my room is gorgeous.

1:15:42

But

1:15:43

six hours later, I'm getting ready to shower

1:15:45

right before the gig and I realized there's no hot water

1:15:47

in the main shower stall. Oh no. Yeah,

1:15:50

I kind of need that. Way less important

1:15:52

than say, I don't know, the sitting room, the double

1:15:54

sink, the hair dryer, the coffee maker, the

1:15:57

coffee table book all about Richmond. Did you know

1:15:59

that Richmond has a...

1:16:00

Museum. Who the fuck reads that shit? Then

1:16:02

the pillows look nice, but they're not great. The TV

1:16:04

jiggles on some of the channels and the air conditioning system

1:16:07

is in the bedroom, which is really

1:16:09

loud and keeps going off and on. You guys realize

1:16:11

that people come there to sleep, right?

1:16:13

All right. But no maid

1:16:15

banged on the door at 6 a.m. and the electronic

1:16:17

key worked and you know what? I'll take it.

1:16:20

The road, baby. Well,

1:16:23

I feel like I feel like you need to understand,

1:16:26

like you go in with an expectation.

1:16:29

you have to understand that hotels and hospitals

1:16:32

are the same thing. You're not going to

1:16:34

get any rest. You're not going to, you're just

1:16:36

not. This is not going to be the same. And then too, I tell

1:16:38

him, fucking, if you're going to go

1:16:40

stay in a hotel, just try to stay in the

1:16:42

best, why not try to stay in the best No, no,

1:16:44

I agree. I'm just saying that, you know, as good as it is.

1:16:46

I'm trying to fucking make him have some class and

1:16:49

some motherfucker want to sit in a shitty room. I'm

1:16:51

going to put it, I'm going to start putting him in Motel 6

1:16:53

is what I'm going to do. I'm going to

1:16:55

be down the street at the Ritz And we'll leave

1:16:57

you at the fucking milltail sticks. Sleeping like a baby. Write

1:17:00

in some hotel stories, by the way. I think we should hear those.

1:17:02

Like, Fuckery Podcast at gmail.com. We'd

1:17:04

love to hear it. Yeah, and I meant to tell you, when I was in Atlanta

1:17:07

City, when we dropped you off at your room, we was

1:17:09

passing the room. They were having sex. Oh,

1:17:11

really? That's funny. It was

1:17:13

like, whoa. And I was like, oh, shit. What

1:17:15

they? Yeah, classy.

1:17:18

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