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Al as a man and I said, I like that

1:46

cologne. And I smelled it the minute I walked into

1:48

the studio. But you looked at me as a man

1:50

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1:52

make you? It makes

1:54

me a little confused. But in the streets we

1:56

call it sus. Oh, sus. Yeah,

1:58

yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything is such I

2:00

got an eight-year-old son and I don't know where he gets

2:03

it But he told me daddy that's us. He

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was all the cool with I'm not gonna say your son's

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cuz I know you're not So I know the history our

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history but for the streets and I'm

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representing the streets on this mother That

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sound is Suss's mother Another

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thing is such the job Is

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the reason why I'm on a black couch doing

2:22

black. Well, well, we started. I want to know

2:24

we like to get that We support racist we

2:26

also wore all black. Yeah, we all were True

2:29

everybody's wearing black. It's like a boy band and

2:31

I even said when when Donnell was here 10

2:34

minutes early I didn't mean it as

2:36

a racist thing, but I said, oh shit. He's

2:38

early but it was in your eyes that it

2:40

was slightly Right. Yeah, I saw my right. I

2:42

saw your eyes. I got a little racist. Yeah,

2:44

like I didn't like the tone Oh, wow, you're

2:46

early, but you did say your publicist is a

2:48

white woman. So she keeps you on time Yeah,

2:50

you said that I didn't say that and then

2:52

you said I know he's early But we're having

2:54

fried chicken for lunch So

2:58

there it is, let's do it You know what

3:00

I found out and this the stereotype black people

3:02

we have certain stereotypes, but I found out that

3:04

white people Love

3:07

fried chicken way more than black

3:09

people I believe that and white

3:11

people will cross the color barrier

3:13

line for the best fried chicken

3:15

all day You go to Nashville. I'm just

3:18

naturally no hood you go to New York

3:20

everywhere Why do you well they'll

3:22

cross the line in the daytime nighttime, they're not

3:24

buying a fried chicken There's no chicken that good.

3:26

No, no, no, we're risking our lives during the

3:28

day though. Yeah, but not nighttime I'm not a

3:30

whole different ball game man. I'm just I'm just

3:32

personally I love seeing that you did

3:34

a special You've always been one of my favorites

3:37

and I've we've been doing clubs together We've

3:39

been you know forever forever and you

3:41

always no matter what you if to

3:43

me You've always been like but

3:45

one of those guys I call a comics comic And

3:48

it's just a fact, you know, and and I've never seen

3:50

you not be funny ever. I've never I've been doing this

3:52

for 30 years I'm friends of

3:54

the funniest people on the planet and and

3:56

some would say I do alright to on

3:58

stage No, I'm just saying that I've

4:00

never seen you not destroy a

4:03

room. I've never seen it. I don't know how

4:05

many shows that goes. I just had a confrontation

4:07

with another African American doing Black History Month, right?

4:09

And they had some question of if I'm funny.

4:11

The most important. Who said that? What? Good

4:14

guy. I've said that stage work, because I see it, right?

4:16

I just hate this man, but it's just like. I don't

4:18

understand it, because you're a monster, and we've all seen it

4:20

at the last factor. You're such a monster. Nobody wants to

4:23

follow you. And then when they're like,

4:25

Hulkam's going after Donnell, I was like, for

4:27

what? Go after Donnell. It wasn't

4:29

even going on. You know how, like, I got to put it

4:31

like this. Friendship and loyalty is everything. You

4:33

know what I'm saying? You guys have been with each

4:35

other forever, and I know y'all been in brother situations

4:37

where y'all fight or whatever, but at the end of

4:39

the day, y'all are friends. At the end of the

4:42

day, I really feel like this. If somebody attacks

4:44

you, they attack you, correct? You know what I'm saying?

4:46

I really feel that way. That's the type of friendship

4:48

y'all have. And that's the type of friendship that I

4:50

have with Dave Chappelle, right? So this guy,

4:52

Corey Hulken, I hate this because it's going to give him

4:54

props or whatever, and his name is going to come up.

4:57

For some time, he's been bashing. Good

4:59

friend of mine, Dave Chappelle, right?

5:02

Bashing Dave Chappelle, Dave Chappelle is this.

5:05

Dave Chappelle is not funny. Dave Chappelle

5:07

be bombing and all this type of

5:09

stuff, right? And I am a person

5:11

that try to stay away from negative

5:14

energy, but in some cases, it's something

5:16

that's going to trigger you, right? And

5:18

another thing, don't get me wrong, I

5:20

think Corey Hulken is a very funny guy. He's

5:23

funny. He's one of those shocking guys. He stands

5:25

in his truth. And whatever people feel about him,

5:28

to have a comic or to know a

5:30

comic that could have an

5:32

audience where they're grunting and

5:34

they're on the verge of walking out and

5:37

booing, and then in a split second, you

5:40

flip it and everybody's laughing. He can

5:42

do that. Yeah, he's do that. Like I

5:44

say- I've not seen him, sorry. Yeah, but I say like,

5:47

I say that's sort of like Tom Brady energy. And

5:49

if you want to compare like a quarterback situation, I

5:51

feel like my style is more like Michael Vick.

5:53

I'm trying to score a touchdown every time. Yeah, you're

5:55

going. I'm not going to go in the pocket. Bro,

5:58

I've seen you. I've seen you crush- a

6:00

room by making noises. I've

6:02

seen you crush a room by literally like singing

6:04

and making like I've seen you do five minutes

6:06

of shit where you're just I don't

6:08

you're communicating that your special was

6:10

like a sermon almost. Well hold on before you get

6:13

to that. But let me let me let me let

6:15

me get on the whole. All right. So with with

6:17

this. So I already knew that he had a certain

6:19

issue with Dave which for me people say why you

6:21

care because it's my good friend. Right.

6:23

I knew that at some point that I was going

6:25

to see him and I wanted to question him about

6:27

it. Not like your motherfucker but like how could you

6:29

say that. You know I'm saying why are you putting

6:31

that type of negativity out in the world when you

6:34

know this guy's character you know what he's done for

6:36

comedy. You know what he's done for other comics. You

6:38

know one of the most celebrated comics out there.

6:40

You don't got to be on a motherfucker dick

6:42

for that. But the reality of it is that

6:45

you rather talk about what your personal feelings are

6:47

about this guy opposed to talking about what make

6:49

this guy to what

6:51

for some people to go. Right.

6:53

So I was at a comedy

6:55

club the other night and

6:58

I was I was assuming that I was close

7:00

it was a three shows I was so when I was closing

7:02

I don't go check the list or anything right. So I'm sitting

7:04

in the back I go on stage and then

7:06

when I get off I'm like I thought it's gonna be like good

7:08

night. We got another guest we

7:11

got another guest. Comedy is going to come on blah blah

7:13

blah. Corey Hocham 5150 right.

7:16

And I was like oh shit I want to hear this.

7:18

You know told my guy let's sit down and everything. And

7:22

Corey projects the idea of this

7:24

theory that if Hollywood the only

7:27

way you can be successful if

7:29

you do certain type of sexual favors basically

7:32

this is his cat William. Yeah this is this

7:34

is what he said. Any

7:37

man if you are in more than

7:39

three movies in Hollywood

7:41

you suck the dick. And

7:44

that was the trigger for me. That was the

7:46

trigger for me because now I'm not who you're

7:48

a. What was triggered for me. Of course I

7:50

had the my relationship with David in the back

7:52

of my head right. But then when he said

7:54

that I was counting how many movies I'd be

7:56

here right. Wait

8:03

Smiling the whole time I was frowning when I did

8:05

it. Yeah, I like this I go to I was

8:07

and I'm like and I said and I know that

8:09

the rule is you don't have I don't consider I

8:12

go I think wait a minute Corey. I said um,

8:14

I said, uh, I said I've been in three movies

8:16

and I'm dick-free Right

8:21

I've been in three movies and I'm dick-free and

8:23

then he didn't know it was first He's

8:26

like Donnell and he and

8:28

I said, yeah, then then he says oh man,

8:30

um Comedians don't

8:33

like me because I've told the truth. I

8:35

said Corey you do tell a truth I

8:38

said, but sometimes you say some sideways shit which provoked him

8:40

He knew where I was getting that with that right and

8:42

it was like, oh your boy is not

8:44

funny or whatever He's saying all this shit,

8:46

right and I'm like this. Now. This is what

8:48

I really got pissed. He was like He

8:51

said Donnell you are you're a mild comedian

8:55

What media mild comedian as he watched you

8:57

has no listen listen, you know, you're a

8:59

mild comedian Then he said you're

9:01

not your ketchup. You're not hot sauce, right?

9:04

It's just just and I know I haven't

9:07

haven't owned a pair of Timbalands in a long time Right.

9:09

So people will question my gangster like this take the

9:11

other day was like, where's your Tim's? I was like

9:14

I don't know. Yeah, does that make me

9:16

a bitch? Motherfucker man, right? And

9:19

I was like, I wonder I wanted to borrow

9:21

somebody Tim's yeah, whatever right and then it got

9:23

ugly He was like you never worth these

9:25

cuz I was like, bro. I

9:27

came from the grimeiest spots I

9:30

did the nastiest rooms in Brooklyn and

9:32

then he went on to say What

9:35

do you say? You're not um, he said you're

9:37

you're you're a mild comic then he asked the

9:39

audience He was like he said you think you're

9:41

strong comic. I said no, I don't think I'm

9:43

a strong comic I'm a beast motherfucker. Yeah, and

9:45

he tried to get the audience to ride

9:48

with him. Yeah, it was over after that you

9:50

know, and that's how that happened it didn't it's

9:53

so funny because Then

9:56

I'm being petty right right so I go

9:58

back to Google and I'm like, wait a minute He's

10:00

been in six movies So

10:06

I just don't get the point like him

10:08

bring him up on him talk You know

10:10

who is him talking down about Chappelle or

10:13

you like that product? It's not gonna it

10:15

doesn't help anything. No and no one's gonna see being egging go.

10:17

I want to buy a ticket No, no,

10:19

no, no, no, you're wrong. You think no 100%

10:22

I was talking to one of my content Producers

10:25

once right and we were just talking about what daniel

10:27

what daniel's brand what daniel's brand is right? And not

10:29

my brand is bringing people together having a good time,

10:31

right? And then I said we're gonna stay on that

10:34

path, right? We're gonna stick with that He was like

10:36

you right. Um, he called me old like you just

10:38

called me. Oh, would you call me? Oh gee, I

10:40

told you legend legend. That's like saying you're correct. Yeah

10:48

Mid 40s 50 but we haven't got often get

10:50

foot. I called you old. Yeah, surprise you were

10:52

on time John said dad called

10:54

me dad the other day. Yes. I lost my thought.

10:56

What would I say? What are you saying? I'm wrong

10:58

on negativity? Like I don't know. So I'll take it

11:00

in my country gets views Well

11:02

different but some people want different things You

11:04

don't say in some places it will get

11:07

so tickets and I told my contact guy

11:09

I was like he said

11:11

yeah, we're gonna stay positive because

11:13

negativity and toxicity Doesn't

11:15

win. I was like yes, it it

11:18

does win. It does give me

11:20

an example though Who's

11:22

been a super negative comic that has reached heaven

11:24

heaven. Well, that's a different level.

11:26

No, not that I'm saying They're

11:28

like big successful comics. None

11:30

of them are that going after people. Nobody don't have

11:32

time But that's my point But those other the ones

11:35

that you're talking about don't have

11:37

certain opportunities I think that they go

11:39

travel into a situation because this is

11:41

all I have it This is the

11:43

only way you can get a following

11:46

by being a Appointed hater you

11:48

can you but then you if you ask that

11:50

to buy tickets It's like how you want to

11:52

make your money Yeah, like we got the type

11:54

of history that when we started the bad guy

11:56

didn't win you had to be likable You

12:00

had to be good to anybody, but you don't

12:02

have to do any of that anymore Yeah All

12:04

you got to do is engage now some people

12:06

they get comfortable in what their brand is you

12:08

got engaged when I say that Whatever though how

12:11

they register how much money you get for certain

12:13

hits and everything Some people are comfortable with just

12:15

like I'll sit in this podcast and I'll provide

12:17

for myself off of this They don't care that

12:20

draws people to go to go

12:22

to fill up an arena. Yeah, fill up a try.

12:24

Yeah You know, right. Well, you know, that's the thing

12:26

I was that I did a show two nights ago

12:29

with Jay Moore And Jay Moore's back.

12:31

Jay Moore had a little problem with him

12:33

with he is public lateral. He had some

12:35

drug issues I mean he was like that's

12:37

over and and he's been writing

12:39

and When you watch

12:41

that dude get up on stage, I

12:44

mean I was reminded of where the bar

12:46

really is I was reminded of what a

12:48

monster I told you that I thought you he

12:51

tore down the house and bro one one go

12:53

Oh, I I thought I thought well then it

12:55

was Jeff died Jeff die followed and I came

12:57

up through this guy was I mean Jeff's amazing

12:59

But but but you know you go It's

13:03

interesting to say that because I do know it

13:05

was a time where you didn't see too much of

13:07

Jay No, he had you actually said people like that

13:09

because I'm from the Boston Comedy Club days You know

13:11

said John Rowney round Joe, what's up? The

13:15

round I got John it was it they did a duo

13:17

show Had something no, no,

13:19

no red Johnny. Is it red Johnny or the round

13:22

three or something like that? Yeah Yeah, it was him

13:24

back. They got right big. Yeah, it was two guys.

13:26

It was him It was Dave

13:28

Chappelle. It was Jim Gaffigan These are the

13:30

guys was poppin and it was Jay Moore

13:32

and with Jay Moore at that time what

13:34

people understand very catch You know this to

13:36

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13:38

is it? Red Johnny? Whatever is red John?

13:40

Yeah, but at that time around guys right

13:42

at that time Barry cats had

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was and there was

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it was Jay Moore and Dave

13:52

Chappelle That was it they he

13:54

had two of the top guys and

13:56

that time they was smoking this up and we went

13:58

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18:30

I'm black. I'm homophobic Many

18:33

movies around

18:36

me at all Here

18:44

March women's free Don't

18:50

have a homophobic bone in there by Yeah,

18:54

man, but I've had situations

18:56

where I had to have the pace. I'm like

18:58

this dude just ripped I mean I've been behind

19:00

people where it's like they still saying oh shit

19:02

to that guy's joke But I think the part

19:04

of following everything I think is just a mental

19:06

thing and being able to shift that energy and

19:08

get them On to you you have you've always

19:10

been this bill have this ability to dominate the

19:12

audience like you set the tone Yeah, like when

19:14

you go up, it's just it doesn't say way

19:16

that's when you say that man. Yeah, I try

19:19

to do the same thing I mean, but that's

19:21

why I've always just loved watching you because that

19:23

like that energy is what I I

19:25

vibe. I appreciate it Yeah, man. It's just like a

19:27

different thing But you know, I'll

19:29

connect your connection from the beginning. What is

19:31

it? We were both with cyber APA. Is

19:34

that what it was? Yes, and when you

19:36

remember a woman named Marianne, Rebecca Yes, that

19:38

was the first agent and that's when the

19:40

APA was considered at the top four agencies

19:42

in the country still around Yeah, yeah We

19:45

were with them. They were they were there especially with

19:47

comedy. Yeah, well, it's with comedy that like when we

19:49

were young you to Charlie Chaplin who else? That's

19:59

always There's something about age

20:01

that's a great equalizer. It's just like I see you and

20:03

I just I want to hug you because I were Both

20:05

in the same fuck. Well, I will tell you this I

20:07

say what the thing that um, I Appreciate

20:09

about you and when I said

20:11

I wanted to do or be I

20:14

want to be a white man. That's not it You

20:17

heard it. No. No what I'm saying is For

20:20

a motherfucker like you to be a

20:22

killer like you were and stand

20:25

up But you like at the

20:27

beginning was getting acting roles. Yeah Cuz

20:30

I'm one of the an actor first I thought yeah So

20:33

I spent a lot of time Like really

20:35

really studying acting like being in class doing

20:37

scenes doing play a work I did I

20:40

did a play at least at least one

20:42

usually two plays a year in LA how

20:44

many auditions ten years? How many auditions of?

20:47

Thousand thousand auditions and got seven nine thousand

20:49

knows you get yeah you get it It's

20:51

just a million knows but when you get

20:53

that yes that can turn to a seven

20:55

year job. Oh, man Did

20:58

you ever fall in that don't know that was like

21:00

the I mean you've done movies But I'm sure you've

21:02

had offers to like really go down that road where

21:05

I can pull thing I've

21:07

been lucky enough early on I

21:09

was with the same agency right early on and

21:12

this was a time like of my generation Of

21:14

deaf comedy jams or whatever. It was just like

21:16

one way You just did shows you did this

21:18

you did the children's circuit But it was not

21:20

too many people of my generation doing law and

21:22

order Doing a third watch that's

21:24

right stuff like that and I just

21:26

happened to I had this Oh,

21:29

I started a sketch group years ago, right? It was

21:31

called a secret society and then we

21:33

some of my managers we we set up a

21:36

Showcase right and everybody was all

21:38

excited because it was like a very black

21:41

sketch group We it was like

21:43

12 of us whatever and nobody was doing sketch on

21:46

stages like that So we did a showcase and

21:48

we invited all the agencies out and

21:51

then the next day Jason Steinberg phone was

21:55

Bringing off the hook. I've never had any training or

21:57

anything. I just realized a lot of my jokes were

21:59

like three-dimensional Like instead of just telling them

22:01

as jokes, I can make these these characters.

22:03

I've never had any training anything but then

22:05

we got then That

22:08

got on and then I was with an agent

22:10

and they was sitting me out and I was so green I

22:13

mean I was getting blown away in audition I mean one

22:15

time I was audition with this girl and

22:17

I had the script like this I'm looking back and

22:19

forth and she started shitting on me She threw the

22:21

script up and just and going back

22:24

to send all the nose like I I

22:26

think maybe my third audition I booked

22:28

the law and order thing, but I never ever

22:31

took acting that serious. I took

22:33

stand-up Yeah, I went to theater

22:35

school in New York I went to formal theater

22:37

news. Yeah, you know, I started everything but now

22:40

I can now and I Know

22:42

the history that I could see why

22:44

you were where you were but the same time to

22:46

be focused on being a great Actor

22:49

and a great comic not too many people do that shit.

22:51

Well, man, it was it was it was our Grind

22:54

all the time But you know I was

22:56

also lucky because I came up with some

22:58

people like I remember like if you see

23:00

what it takes to be like a really

23:02

Successful actor like Bradley Cooper when

23:04

that dude would work on an audition He would

23:07

work on that audition for three days straight Like

23:09

he was he was working with his acting

23:11

coach and like people like that Do they

23:13

just for the one audition so everything was

23:15

considered the clothing they were even the soles

23:17

of their shoes Like how does it make

23:19

me feel when I walk in leather shoes

23:21

versus rubber shoes? How does this is a

23:23

belt on time? What are the things in

23:25

between the scenes? He's an actor. Oh, they

23:28

would work on I'm talking about details So

23:30

when they get up there in front of

23:32

those people they're doing shit that the writer

23:34

and the director never thought about Yeah, what

23:36

they would guys like that would do is

23:38

they go I know you have an idea watch

23:40

this and then they you they go what the

23:42

fuck is this and you can't compete with that

23:44

But that's so funny You said that because when

23:46

I first started going on the auditions They would

23:48

send me out on stuff and I was like

23:50

they don't fucking they don't they don't get it

23:52

because I go out And the breakdown be like

23:55

like a beach hunk Right.

23:57

I have never been called hunky or

23:59

anything They'd be like, B-chunk, and I'd be like,

24:02

yo motherfucker, y'all know I ain't on. But

24:05

they was like, Donnell, to your point, they

24:07

was like this, you want to be

24:09

in the room. Because a lot of times, they

24:11

don't know what they want, and you can show them

24:14

something different. But I never

24:16

was that serious, but I was so disrespectful to acting.

24:20

There was a couple of roles. I remember this

24:22

one, it was a movie with Cameron the Rapper,

24:24

right? It was one of those, you

24:26

know, like movies, and I knew who I was playing,

24:28

right? And I was always just focused on stand up.

24:30

And I'd be in a comedy club, I'm like, man,

24:33

I ain't got to read all this shit. I'll just sit in

24:35

the chair, and I'll be like, okay, I'm

24:37

doing this, right? I wasn't reading the

24:40

script, but it was so funny, because I

24:42

came to work one day, and I was

24:44

all happy. I'm telling everybody,

24:46

yo, what's up? Hey, y'all, what's up, motherfucker? We

24:48

got this shit, ride or die, right? And

24:51

I was wondering why everybody was looking away from me, they

24:54

wouldn't look me in my eyes, right? I didn't know, I was

24:56

going to get killed that day. Fuck.

25:00

Damn. And you're like, yo, I'm

25:02

all like, Lord, I'm eating a dollar good, fellow.

25:05

Nobody wants to make eye contact with me. Page

25:07

three, yeah. Nobody wants to make eye contact with

25:10

me, right? So, yeah, look, I'm like, uh-huh. Oh,

25:13

shit. Oh, no. This is my last day

25:15

at work. Do you find out at

25:17

the table, Reed, sometimes? Man, I skipped

25:19

that, it was a ghetto joint. I was just like, yo,

25:22

I want me to act, I'll fucking act. I'll take it

25:24

page by page, day by day. But I was like, fuck

25:26

that. I didn't go out like that, right? Yeah. But

25:29

look, it was a scene, yo, it was a

25:31

scene where I get shot, right? I get

25:33

out the car, and I'm

25:36

not talking about shot with like one gun, I'm talking

25:38

about they got 8Ks and everything, right? Yo,

25:41

I was like, if this was my last time on

25:43

this set, I was supposed to die

25:45

in two seconds, right? I took

25:47

a minute and a half. I took

25:50

a minute. My children. Yo, look, I

25:52

was, yo, I was, I know they

25:54

would probably do this slow motion. I

25:56

was like, fuck that, I'm gonna die

25:59

in slow motion. I

26:01

was running up the steps and y'all they shoot me

26:03

in the back They like this I

26:12

read up the steps I ran

26:14

it that they still shoot me right and I'm like

26:16

this I Took like

26:19

50 shots and I slid down

26:21

though. I was so dramatic. I slid down the

26:23

wall like this And

26:32

look I'm admitted in at the end. I was like still

26:34

not dead Then

26:36

I did like this I did like this And

26:40

I was like, yeah, it was like like we got

26:43

it Using that

26:45

take but there's a funny thing, you know Keith Robinson

26:47

in New York, right? He's an asshole But when I

26:49

say I say the most friendly way he's done so

26:51

much for so many people's career, right? And

26:54

we always had this like like love-hate

26:56

relationship in the most positive way, right?

26:59

He made me feel bad. He was like I saw

27:01

that motherfucking movie you was and I was so fucking

27:03

mad He was like I was like

27:05

get him He was rooting for

27:07

my death. He was like More

27:10

I'm like, oh Nothing

27:12

more embarrassing. I did an audition one time. I

27:14

was sucking. I was so excited about it was

27:16

a big job and I I The

27:20

character I believe was crying because

27:22

the character is like talking to the love of

27:24

his life And it was like a loose it

27:26

was a loose Rendition

27:29

of Romeo and Juliet put in modern times

27:31

with guns and all that and I'm doing

27:33

the fuck insane And I'm you know, I'm

27:35

just fucking killing it and and the

27:38

casting director goes hey Hey,

27:42

why are you crying? Really

27:45

and you know, I just thought no no Well,

27:49

I Brian Brian educated me on how you know,

27:51

can I move out here? Why like 13 14

27:53

years ago and I realized how cut you know,

27:55

I come from sports was just cutthroat I didn't

27:57

realize Hollywood is cut. Oh, yeah, Brian

28:00

Yes, cutthroat unless you suck a dick. Correct.

28:02

I like that. You just cut through that

28:04

throat. No, that's not his deep throat. Deep

28:06

throat. Deep throat. I've only been in

28:08

two movies. One more and I'm in. All back and

28:10

forth. Craig is about to boom. But

28:12

I didn't realize how cutthroat was then. Brian invites

28:14

me to the opening of one

28:16

of his movies. He's like, I'm in this, man.

28:19

His wife and kids, I go with them. I'm

28:21

in a suit. I'm like, red carpet's gonna be

28:23

sick. We're taking pictures up there. We're

28:25

sitting down watching movies. It's a cat and heart movie, right? I

28:28

forget. Okay. But we sit

28:30

down and they, yeah, Kevin Hart said it. We sit

28:32

down and we're 45 minutes into him. I'm

28:35

like, what do you come on, y'all? I

28:37

think they had me out, man. I was like, wait,

28:40

hold on. I said, hold on. They

28:42

didn't tell you. No, we're all

28:44

here. But no one told

28:46

you. Now with like the Joker, I'm

28:49

out there for five days. I'm there

28:51

for five days. I'm

28:54

with Greer Barnes. You know

28:56

Greer? Yeah, of course. Couple of

28:58

comics, we're at a table and I'm

29:00

in fucking. Clanset. Well, I got a

29:02

tight black pants, no shirt, a

29:05

bow tie, a blonde wig. Joaquin

29:07

Phoenix Joker, like big movie. Joaquin Phoenix, with that

29:10

crazy dude right there, I mean, great actor, but

29:12

he won't even look at me or say hi, which is

29:14

he's in character. And I'm sitting there in that room doing

29:16

my shit just like that. But that was, I wasn't allowed

29:18

to wear that. I had my shirt on the whole time.

29:22

And I'm just like that and we're improvising.

29:24

We're doing the shit. And we're coming back

29:27

up and forth. I'm doing my scene with

29:29

him. I'm talking to him

29:31

and I can see it, blah, blah, blah, camera here, da,

29:33

da, da. And I've just been doing this

29:35

so long. And after the fourth day, I look

29:39

at how they're shooting this shit. And I bring

29:41

Todd Phillips over. I go, Todd, come over here for a second.

29:43

He goes, what's up? He goes, you're doing a great

29:45

job. I go, yeah, good improv, right? He goes, yeah, yeah, very exciting. I

29:47

go, yeah. I go, now I'm friends with you.

29:50

So I'm going to say something. I want you to tell me

29:52

if it's true or false. I'm not going to be in this

29:54

movie. I'm on the floor. He

29:56

goes, you know, we'll see. It

30:00

is taking a turn. You see like the back of your

30:02

head. But like when I did, I had

30:04

an opportunity, Spider-Man 2. Right.

30:07

I was in that and like, but I learned my

30:09

lesson about not telling what you're doing because there was

30:11

a, I had did an

30:13

episode of Law and Order, right? Yeah. And I

30:16

had an air date and back then, you know,

30:18

again, coming from the BET and the Dev Jam,

30:20

you just didn't do stuff like that. So I

30:22

had fucking my cousins and nephews. I mean, everybody

30:24

had a watch parties everywhere and

30:26

I watched the whole fucking episode of Law

30:28

and Order, right? Cause then again, I don't read

30:30

the script. Yeah. Right. So I didn't know when I was

30:32

just waiting for me. Yo, in 30

30:35

minutes, I was like this. That's

30:41

my career. Right. I was like,

30:43

yeah. And it made me realize you can't, you

30:45

never know. And what happened was they didn't cut

30:47

me out. They switched the way the episodes were

30:49

going to be. Yeah. Even when I, when I

30:51

did Spider-Man 2, right? I

30:54

had the opening part of the opening

30:56

scene. That right. And I was so

30:58

nervous about it. I was like, I

31:00

can't tell them about him in Spider-Man 2 cause they could

31:02

cut you. Right. But the only way I knew I was

31:04

in there because Jason Steinberg, one of his good friends was

31:06

editing on that. And I was like, yo, did I make

31:08

it? And it was like, yeah. And he, and he told

31:10

me the line and everything. So

31:12

I was like, Oh shit. I'm about to be a

31:14

Spider-Man 2. Yeah. And that was, you know what? I

31:16

will say this too, but you won't say it, but

31:19

I'll say it. Like when we were coming up and we were

31:21

young, if you look to TV, it

31:23

was, you was like, you guys, you know, no,

31:25

no, no, you were, yeah. But when we were coming

31:28

up in the nineties,

31:30

TV was insanely white. So

31:32

there were so many parts for me, but

31:34

if you were black back then, there wasn't

31:36

one black TV show there really wasn't, I

31:38

mean, there really, if you, there was a

31:40

stretch of time, that was it. But I

31:42

mean, and that you could almost say that

31:44

there's not yet very few, like every pilot

31:46

that came down, every single

31:48

pilot had five white people on

31:51

a couch. Yeah. It's just what it was. If

31:54

you were young and a really talented comic like

31:56

yourself, there wasn't that you probably,

31:58

that just weren't a lot. a lot of

32:00

rolls. There's a wire, which you did. Yeah. The

32:02

funny thing about it, there was a lot of

32:04

rolls. But I was lucky enough. And

32:06

this one, I got tired. I was like, wait

32:08

a minute. I'm going to focus on stand up.

32:11

Because I did special victims unit. Yeah. And every

32:13

day. But like three or four of them. Right.

32:15

And I was like, wait a minute. Every shot,

32:17

I'm getting arrested. Yes. Yo, every

32:19

one. That's right. Yo, every one. I'm

32:21

telling you. I was like, yeah,

32:23

I'm right there. Everyone is like this. What I do?

32:25

You know, everything. You're like, oh, no, not me. Oh,

32:28

no, not me. Every time. And

32:30

this so far, you said the wire. The wire, what

32:32

all people don't know. It's one of

32:34

the best TV shows ever made. People

32:37

always ask me, what you want

32:39

your legacy to represent and whatever. And it's hard

32:41

to really answer that question. But I will say,

32:43

I was reading, it was an article in Entertainment

32:45

Weekly maybe five years ago. Right. And

32:48

they named 100 best shows in the

32:50

history of television. Right. Chappelle's

32:52

show was one of them. And the wire was one

32:54

of them. And you were involved. So I was like,

32:57

wow. Anything, anything, it's a mic drop. But the interesting

32:59

thing, a lot of people that were fans of the

33:01

wire, they don't know that there was another show before

33:03

that called The Corner. David

33:06

Simon. Charles Dutton. Charles Dutton directed it.

33:08

David Simon. It was a police officer.

33:10

They wrote the book. And they adapted

33:12

it to the series. That was one,

33:14

that was one of

33:16

the, to that point in my career, was one of

33:18

the biggest things that I had done.

33:20

Right. And the crazy thing about how I got

33:22

that role. Right. Again, I don't read the scripts

33:24

like that. Right. So I just got this. I

33:27

just got this. I don't

33:29

prepare. I'll let you know. I don't

33:31

prepare. Right. So the

33:34

corner, I get part of it. I

33:37

get one of the sides. Right.

33:39

And it's this guy. It

33:42

was a heroin addict. Right. But I

33:46

didn't know he was a

33:48

heroin addict. The size I got was just

33:50

about him just being regular. Right. So when

33:52

I went in there, man, when I tell

33:54

you Jackie Brown car, I remember I was,

33:57

I thought I was born. I was, I didn't know

33:59

the lines. Anything and I

34:01

was gonna in the I think I said man

34:03

fuck this right in the audition I

34:05

was like, that's what I was like you about to be the best

34:07

comic in the world Right. I was like

34:09

man fucking she was like Donnell relax

34:14

Black people always bring God in the room, right? She had

34:16

to bring the Lord in I'm telling

34:18

y'all why people like fuck Yeah, we don't fuck

34:20

with God like that It's

34:22

my talent. I was trained like people like God

34:24

Lord, please So

34:26

she was like she said good,

34:28

Donnell God is in the room and

34:31

I felt like those teachers like this We're not gonna bring

34:33

God into the school system house. I think that's nothing to

34:35

do with it now No, I fuck with God, but not

34:37

right now. Yeah, right. She was like God is in room.

34:39

Take a deep breath I took a deep brother deal all

34:41

that shit, but I still Thought

34:43

I bombed that shit right? Yeah, and I get

34:45

a call three days later and they're

34:47

going crazy He was like you booked

34:50

the HBO series. Yeah the corner. I

34:52

was like I Know

34:54

all black people look alike, right? So

34:57

I'm saying ever sure it wasn't Alex Thomas. You

34:59

know me I'm like the one I'm already going

35:01

all the black guys would know we have like

35:04

you might confuse it right and I'm like this

35:06

At the same time I'm like, yeah, I know

35:09

I booked that shit. I'm nice with it, right? Didn't

35:11

know what the fuck was gonna get the script or whatever

35:14

now I'm starting to study a little bit, right? But

35:16

I had to get an answer to this right?

35:18

So David Simon was when I get on set

35:20

I see him and I got a question He

35:23

was just laughing like just talking to me like before I said,

35:25

I got a question. He said well said I Said

35:29

how did I get this? He's like what

35:31

do you mean? I said I thought I

35:33

bond in an audition And this is what he

35:35

said. He said Donnell We

35:38

liked the way you threw the lines away Yeah,

35:41

right. Did you draw the I was like that's not

35:43

thought that's like I didn't know the line didn't know

35:45

lines I was just right. No, they worked in my

35:48

favor. He was like we liked the way like like

35:50

I chose like never Never know

35:52

when you get a part. It's so nonlinear man You

35:54

know you can prepare for three days and it's the

35:56

rosie you get like you walk in and you're you

35:58

got to get somewhere I don't want to

36:00

be there. He said, we like the way you threw the lines

36:02

away. I couldn't tell him. I didn't know the lines, right? Then

36:04

he was like, he said, everybody, and I know what he meant

36:06

by that. Everybody in there that identified

36:09

with him as being a heroin addict went in

36:11

there with the stereotype of a heroin addict.

36:13

They didn't want to, he didn't know this.

36:15

They wanted to see who he was without

36:17

being high. So everybody was going in

36:19

there like this. Yeah, man, I didn't do that. I

36:21

was like, aw, man, look, and

36:23

that's the side they wanted to see.

36:25

Now that went, going down to one

36:27

of the greatest shows in history, whenever I talk to people, they

36:29

like this, you was in my favorite show. I don't know if

36:32

they're going to say Chappelle's Show or The Wire. So

36:35

The Wire auditioned for

36:37

The Wire, right? And

36:41

I didn't know, again,

36:44

what the character was, I

36:46

auditioned for this character, Omar, right? I

36:49

auditioned for Omar. The

36:51

big role. Right, I auditioned for Omar. I love

36:53

that, that's my favorite character. I didn't get Omar,

36:56

but I didn't know Omar was like, he

36:58

had already done three movies, if you know

37:00

what I mean, right? Well,

37:02

he was also trained theater actors. Oh, he's

37:04

a beast. So I didn't get Omar. I

37:07

got this other, I played Damien

37:10

Price, Day-Day, right? They gave me

37:12

that. And then when I got

37:14

on set, I asked

37:16

Robert Cozberg, he was like, you know, Donnell,

37:19

I'm going to be the driver and the

37:21

governors or whatever it was, I mean, it's

37:24

his sister, whatever. And they said,

37:26

you know, that role, Omar, it came down to me

37:28

and Mike. Wow. He said,

37:30

you know that, he said, you know, we

37:33

were really considering you for Omar. He said, but

37:35

we wanted to save this for you because we

37:37

think it's going to be something special, right? I

37:39

didn't know the depth. And then when I look

37:41

at what Mike did to the character Omar, I'm

37:43

like, I couldn't touch that. Like certain

37:46

people would just, I was born for that. That

37:48

actor, Michael, I got

37:50

a chance to- Michael K. Williams, yeah. Well, Michael

37:52

K. and Diad too, rest is, you know, he,

37:55

RIP because he was, I met him.

37:57

I got to meet him because I'd seen every episode of The

37:59

Wire. and I did read along and he was

38:01

at the premiere of brought along and I was

38:04

able to really just give him props.

38:06

I was able to really like he was

38:08

just a beautiful. He played that character like

38:10

a hero. There was something heroic about it.

38:12

Like he was the Oasis in the desert.

38:14

Like there was, yeah, he had, he as

38:16

an actor shine. There was something about him.

38:18

It just like when you can, when someone

38:20

like beats you out of a role, whatever,

38:23

you can, you're, you're going to

38:25

be like, well, but then when you see the performance,

38:27

you're like, it was amazing. Oh man. A

38:29

lot of people don't know about the wire. Like

38:31

they said, we had something special for you, right?

38:33

And if you follow the wire series, that first

38:35

season in the towers, it was incredible, right?

38:38

But what happened was now it was, yeah,

38:40

it was a lot of unanswered questions. Like

38:42

the last thing you see is me.

38:45

They, they, they pulled me over. They catch me with

38:48

$30,000 in cash. They

38:50

bring me in the office and now I'm daily.

38:52

I, they had to let me go. They

38:55

had to let me go with the money and

38:57

I'm, you know, and I got to tell you a funny

38:59

thing when I added to that. So the scene is they,

39:01

they, they interrogate me. They got to give me the money

39:03

and they ain't got to leave. So I was like, I'm

39:05

still coming up with a picture. We just freaked out everything,

39:07

right? And they were, they were, so

39:09

I'm walking out with the money and I'm still

39:11

trying to be funny, right? I walk out with

39:13

the money, right? And I'm like, some people got

39:15

to have it. And

39:18

so the money don't let money change. And

39:20

I look back at him, I said, oh,

39:23

mighty dolla. And

39:25

y'all was like, everybody died laughing, but

39:27

it was like, yeah, no, you can't

39:29

do that. Why not? That's great. But

39:31

here's the thing. That was the end

39:33

of it. Now, this

39:35

one, people are saying, you got to find

39:37

out where was that money going? And

39:39

what I think, why he didn't, he didn't give it back.

39:41

But you notice the second season I wasn't there. And the

39:44

reason why is because the Baltimore

39:46

Tourism Board was upset with

39:48

all the production in Baltimore. Because they

39:50

say every time they bring the cameras

39:52

in there, it's always drug

39:55

addiction. It's always these, well, which

39:57

it was also, but it was.

40:00

Wait land, but that's what what happened was

40:03

they complained enough Well David Simon him because that

40:05

powers season was the shit and I'm like this

40:07

cool next season and I'm saying to myself I'm

40:09

already vision. I'm like this. I'm gonna be a

40:11

dude to wear suits But at the same time

40:13

and I'm in the streets and I'm like, I

40:15

noticed I could just fail I could just tell

40:18

this character is gonna blow but because

40:20

they got so much criticism about the depiction

40:22

of Baltimore They had to switch the storyline

40:24

Wow. A lot of people know that so

40:26

that's why if you look at it So

40:28

that's why it went from the

40:30

towers to the docks Really?

40:33

Yeah, see people don't realize like I saw

40:35

a shot a movie in Baltimore people don't

40:37

realize that it was a true wasteland I'm

40:39

talking about like Detroit the land the time

40:41

forgot because when industry moved out of there

40:43

only the poor stay Poor

40:45

quote-unquote black. So there was

40:47

it was black. It was a black. So when Charles Dutton

40:50

But bring up Charles Dutton, but you know,

40:52

he is the actor Charles Dutton He just

40:54

had one of the great actors went to

40:56

jail for murder and killed a dude in

40:58

jail Okay,

41:00

Kim went to jail for murder killed a

41:02

dude in jail That's a janitor and Rudy

41:05

went it went to Yale Theatre School Yeah

41:07

was reading and writing while he was in

41:09

jail taught himself everything that he came from

41:11

Baltimore when he shot the corner He

41:14

was just looking for one person. He'd grown

41:16

up with just one person He'd grown up

41:18

with who would who would

41:20

like show up with a good

41:22

story. Yeah, and not one person It

41:25

was an example of how what what

41:27

can happen to a town and what happens to

41:29

everyone I'm talking about everybody the same thing in

41:32

Detroit where the hopelessness and despair was so deep

41:34

and so widespread that you couldn't find one Good

41:36

story and that's what killed him and he wanted

41:38

in Charles Dutton was like, let me hire some

41:41

people Let me hire just some black like some

41:43

of my people like just as grips But it's

41:45

like that there wasn't one he couldn't find anybody

41:47

But I would tell you so it was so

41:50

real like and honestly when I said it was

41:52

so real we were Shooting

41:54

on location like when you

41:56

see the hood it wasn't a man. They

41:58

didn't build a deer. It was so much

42:00

that we didn't even know who the Dophans

42:02

were until he said cut. Damn.

42:05

It would be people like, yeah, they'd be like, cut. He'd

42:08

be like, nah, I'm real, motherfucker. That's the

42:10

thing, it was so real. The actors had

42:12

never had any training, but they were so

42:14

fucking good. But another thing, but a lot

42:16

of those actors did, some of them, you

42:18

got Candy Alexander, you got Tasha, Reggie McCaffee,

42:20

you got Tasha Smith. Andre, I play Bubbles,

42:22

the fuck's his name? I forget his name

42:25

too, Big Hair, whatever. You had

42:27

those guys. One thing I won't say about David Simon,

42:29

he's so loyal, because if you look at the

42:31

cast of The Corner, a lot of those

42:33

guys started working on Wire, and it totally

42:35

switched the character. They went from

42:37

like Dophans to people that was working in politics and everything.

42:40

So they were actors. Oh yeah, they were like actor actors.

42:42

And they took me, I didn't know what I was doing.

42:44

I thank Tasha Smith and Candy Alexander so

42:47

much, because I was green. They taught me

42:49

so much. Probably just a deaf, damn, comedy

42:51

that just happened. What are you doing right

42:53

now? You're doing a show right now, right?

42:56

What do you mean? Weren't you doing a

42:58

TV show last year? Oh yeah, BMF. Yeah,

43:01

BMF, that was like in the

43:03

streets. That was one of the

43:06

biggest shows. It was about like

43:08

this drug gang or crew or

43:11

empire back in the 90s. It

43:13

was a big show. And the crazy thing

43:15

was, while I'm at, I'm

43:17

such a bad auditioner that I

43:20

told my manager I'm doing offer only. And

43:23

not in a cocky way, because I know I'm a shitty auditioner.

43:25

And I said to myself, if somebody wanted to work with

43:27

me, they would just be like, this

43:29

is the only way I'm getting away with it. You

43:31

should call me. I will. For real.

43:34

Just call me. The funny thing about

43:36

this, Tasha Smith, this role was, she

43:39

just called me one day. And

43:41

she called me and I

43:44

was getting ready for something else with the

43:46

voicemail. Is that Leon right there, that actor?

43:48

Huh? Is that Leon? No,

43:50

that's Kofi. That's a British actor. I

43:52

forget his last name. He played Lamar. That was

43:54

my cousin. I love this character. So

43:56

Tasha calls me one day and I sent her the voicemail because I

43:59

was doing something else. And she, this is how you

44:01

know you, but this is how you know you got a good friend. When

44:03

I finally pick up the phone, she said, motherfucker,

44:05

when I call you, you answer the fucking phone.

44:07

Yeah. Because there's certain people that call you,

44:10

you know it's money. Yeah. They don't call

44:12

you for bullshit. And she was talking to 50, Randy

44:14

Huggins, who was a fan of mine, he used to see me

44:16

at Chocolate Sundays or whatever. They

44:18

was this character of this guy, well,

44:20

I forget the guy, the people that

44:22

fuck dead bodies. Necrophiliacs. Necrophiliacs.

44:25

You're a freak. Only white people know

44:27

that. No, I didn't know that. Another

44:29

white test. What is the thing that

44:31

you choke motherfuckers before they come? Auto-affixation.

44:34

Oh, auto-free. Yo, all right.

44:37

Right or free. This is a white dude

44:39

for a thousand dollars, right? Yeah, baby. Crazy

44:41

white dude for a thousand dollars. So we

44:43

had to- Sorry, everyone. I'm educated. She

44:46

was, so we, she was basically, she

44:48

took, they threw my name up, 50

44:50

liked it, Randy liked it. And I

44:52

came in the last season, the finale,

44:54

I did one, one, one, one scene

44:57

and I did good enough

44:59

with the next season, they'd

45:01

be voting back for three episodes. And

45:04

then they was loving his character so much. It went from

45:06

three episodes to, I think I did like seven extra ones

45:08

after that and was a part of that, the

45:10

whole series because of that shit. Wow, man.

45:12

With everything going on in today's climate, do you think you

45:14

could have the same success on the Chappelle

45:16

show if you guys launched it today? Yeah,

45:19

I think so. Same thing. Yeah,

45:21

because like- Well, with Tommy Central, let me give

45:23

you guys the freedom. I don't know. I

45:25

say that because I think like when

45:28

we launched that show, it

45:30

was, I think people was out of

45:32

watered down comedy. They wanted something honest,

45:34

they wanted something unedited, they wanted that.

45:37

And I think that right now, what

45:39

I think in comedy with all the cancel culture and everything,

45:42

cancel culture is canceling themselves because they bitch

45:44

about so much shit and now people are

45:46

getting pissed about it. It's forcing people to

45:48

want to- It's coming back. Oh yeah. It's

45:51

coming back. It's coming back. It's

45:53

flipping like fuck that. You can see

45:55

how even my good friend Dave, how

45:57

they attacked him so much, attacked him

46:00

So much and they couldn't fuck them to

46:02

the point now now this turn into like

46:04

shut the fuck up. Yeah, right It's like

46:06

you're bitching and then when that lane becomes

46:08

open notice you get people that are rough

46:10

the only thing I didn't with this Council

46:13

culture people always like freedom of speech you

46:15

have a You have

46:17

the right freedom of speech, but you have to have freedom

46:19

of some responsibilities Yes, just because you can

46:22

go hard that don't mean you have to

46:24

go hard And now some people like

46:26

corn just a grain. They just saying crazy shit just

46:29

to be shocking I think my special

46:32

I feel like my special is gonna be I don't

46:35

know I won't say part of that movement, but I think it's

46:37

gonna be a point people like you know what this

46:39

shit is just funny Yeah, I agree It's

46:42

not just funny though because I love I

46:45

loved a lot of the stuff you touched

46:47

on like I never thought about the idea

46:49

That you know you girls you women use

46:51

those words like narcissists like gaslighting like, you

46:53

know Like manipulative and it's just it's right

46:55

now It's become like and I

46:57

know that mental health is real shout out to Charlamagne

46:59

and God for the breakfast club because you love that

47:01

shit That's all guys you May

47:07

they just talk shit to each other now But

47:10

I think now it's like I do know that

47:12

mental health is real But now is that they

47:14

get a whole these words and they use them

47:16

just to fuck with you and now Sharing

47:19

culture like when you when you can talk about

47:21

what a mess you are you get you get

47:23

social credit for it used to Be like, you

47:26

know for our generation your generation Like if you

47:28

if you complain about like, I don't know kind

47:30

of how you were having a hard time, especially

47:32

if you were a dude Yeah, it was like

47:35

even with like Yeah,

47:38

fuck you put that on stage and shut the

47:41

fuck up that's where our therapy is right Yeah,

47:43

but even with like even with my baby mother,

47:45

right? Like she used

47:47

to she knows all the words

47:51

Like she sent me a grid a mental

47:53

health grid She'd

47:55

be saying shit like monkey branching and

47:57

shit like that. Right? Keep branch. Yo,

47:59

she He got all the words. And I didn't

48:01

know all the words. But see, once

48:03

I started learning what these words were, I was

48:06

like, oh, I started using it on her.

48:08

You gotta be your first responder. Your own first responder. Well,

48:11

you can't just wait on anybody. You gotta be prepared for

48:13

any situation. So where do you go? Where do you learn

48:15

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48:17

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49:34

I didn't even know the context. I just couldn't wait to

49:36

say, don't gaslight me. Right? She

49:39

was like, you want a cheese raffle? I'm not

49:41

going to let you gaslight me. Right? Turn

49:43

up. I killed her, boy. You went cheese with

49:45

that bird? You went cheese with that bird? Look,

49:47

I was like, you want cheese with that bird?

49:50

I was like, just respect my boundaries. You know,

49:52

I would just use all of my shit.

49:54

And the funny thing about it, once she knew

49:56

I was mental health legal

49:59

or whatever, it She was like she was

50:01

shut down. I mean I said I

50:03

said Respect but

50:05

I said gas light and she looked at me like who

50:08

taught you that? Yeah, who's like this? Oh, you know

50:10

She doesn't know the trouble, but I realized here's the

50:12

real deal about that the people That

50:16

use those words the most suffer from what

50:18

they're saying You are the user people that

50:20

call you the narcissist the most they fucking

50:22

narcissist. Yes, that's exactly right And I don't

50:24

have a problem what I do know about

50:26

narcissists Most of ones I know are the

50:28

most successful people in the business. Yeah, you

50:30

know it requires a certain amount of self-involvement

50:33

Like you know what I mean? Like I always say

50:35

that to you should say to my significant others like

50:38

look man My first wife too. It's like it

50:40

was hard for her because I was traveling all the time and

50:42

but I was like I don't know how else to get successful.

50:45

I don't like I don't know how else like

50:47

it's like for me Anyway, it takes every bit

50:49

of effort and I barely make you but you

50:51

pay a price you do to get to the

50:54

show But do you think that's

50:56

selfish you think that that's because of how old

50:58

you were back then and then you think yes

51:00

Yeah, I'm saying because maybe because you got you

51:02

look at it You look at it like like

51:04

like you have a 20 year old 21 year

51:07

old comedian actor, right? We're just driven on gotta

51:09

make it gotta make it. Yeah But you think

51:11

it's a difference between you getting married again, like

51:13

all right, you more successful now You're

51:15

more comfortable with what you're doing and you don't

51:18

have we always gonna have that hunger, but

51:20

it's not that death That that yeah, maybe

51:22

that's right. But when you're coming up at

51:25

that desperation it takes yeah, you know You

51:27

got to go like does there's no balance.

51:29

It's like that's it But

51:32

I wonder if you're gonna go to where you're

51:34

going. It's something has to give. Yes, whether it's

51:36

family relationships There's no way you can get to

51:38

where you're going and and be able to balance

51:40

the two I don't think so Maybe not I

51:42

think when you get older though, you start to

51:44

realize that everything you need is right there and

51:47

huh? Yeah, but but you're you're you're 10,000 up

51:49

now you have perspective But you've also I didn't

51:51

know like you've made it to a certain extent

51:54

but right back then. Oh Go

51:56

and go and try that. I'm just gonna

51:58

jump a pass along going out there I want to

52:00

fight I'm not good with the audition. I'm good man.

52:02

I want you with my girl You're not gonna know

52:04

what's so funny cuz I'm going on that this that's

52:07

it You know you say when she was a girl

52:09

for me the the life-changer whatever where I had to

52:11

realize that Now I can't always pick money and all

52:13

that is when I had my son Correct, you know

52:15

I'm saying because I never had to make decisions based

52:17

on anything. I was selfish It's just all it worry

52:19

about me. I never had to worry about my time

52:21

fucking I'm gone You know I'm saying but with me

52:23

now and like now I have

52:26

to make decisions sometimes like if it's something

52:28

That's important to my and it's happening

52:30

to me something is important to my son in school or

52:33

whatever when I used to like this I'm taking that I'm

52:35

taking that then I'm it's I can't do that you pass

52:37

over the money Yes, I'm passing by the money, but I'm

52:39

not passing up on him on the memory. I

52:42

even got not worth it anymore Yeah, and there's no

52:44

monetary gain that can break my son's heart I'm good,

52:46

and I'm at the situation I'm at the point now

52:48

where like if I want to I can

52:50

work every weekend Like I went from

52:53

doing like you know how the road is I'm doing like

52:55

40 45 45 weeks Through

52:58

a year and because I was wrong dogging

53:01

road. I'm down like this. I told my people

53:03

you know what they like this We got so

53:05

much. I was like I'm gonna

53:07

take those two with those I gotta be able

53:09

to balance and that's what Having

53:11

some for me. It just people always ask Daniel

53:13

So do you think you're more focused down that

53:15

you have a kid and I've always been focused

53:18

But the lens has changed now it

53:20

went from that that wide lens to that

53:22

detailed lens that I would say this real

53:24

quick for you. I would say Be

53:29

having the option to go. I'm gonna

53:31

pass on the chill with my son

53:33

to me that success success is Having

53:36

the means recover your nut and you can pick and

53:38

choose and you don't miss out on the kid I

53:40

would also say that that's exactly the other thing that's

53:42

great about children that you don't realize

53:44

as a man Especially when you're kind of after

53:47

it You know you spend your whole life after

53:49

it is that you all of a sudden

53:51

have people in your life whose happiness is more important

53:54

Yeah, you can but yeah, like I don't care. I

53:56

almost care like when I got I'm gonna have my

53:58

fourth soon And I don't care about myself nearly,

54:00

I don't even think about myself. Like I swear

54:02

to God, if I could go with nothing as

54:05

long as my kids, when my kids have everything,

54:07

when I'm teaching them shit, when I'm watching them

54:09

laugh, when I'm watching them play, when I know

54:11

that they're developing and growing, I

54:13

swear to God that's almost, I'll do everything

54:15

just as any of your kids disrespectful to

54:18

you. Yes, man. Yes, ah,

54:20

man, that's what I'm good at, I just got one and reason

54:22

why I'm telling you, I love my

54:24

son to death, right? But this little

54:26

motherfucker, though disrespectful, and

54:29

I'm so petty, like he has a phone, I

54:31

gave him a phone, right? Because I didn't want to

54:33

have to deal with the FaceTime with his mother and

54:35

I'm telling you, when you got a, nah, it's

54:37

like this, when you got a baby mom has given

54:39

you this shit every once in a while, then

54:42

when they FaceTime you, it's

54:44

different, they don't even, they be like,

54:46

you're dead. That's it. You don't even

54:49

see that face, this is like, there he is

54:51

right there. When I turned to his teen, my

54:53

15 year old daughter calls me Brian, doesn't call

54:55

me dad. My eight year old son calls me

54:57

bro. He

54:59

called me bro, I checked him. I

55:01

checked him, nah, he said, but that's when he's around

55:03

his cousin, he's like, bro, I was like, he's trying

55:05

to be cool. Yeah, he's trying to be cool, but

55:07

this is why he's disrespectful. Like I texted one time

55:09

and I already, one part of my joint, I was

55:11

like this, I'm a dad that identifies

55:14

as a mom, right? Does that make

55:16

me transparent? Right,

55:19

I like this, I'm like, aw,

55:22

like this kid got me like on aw, right?

55:24

And obviously, one time I said, I'm about to get

55:26

real sensitive with this motherfucker, right, and

55:29

I typed a paragraph. To

55:31

him? Yes, I'm

55:33

like, I text him a paragraph, this

55:35

motherfucker gave me the thumb. And

55:41

then I had to suck it up, right? He gave

55:43

me the thumb and I was like, that's

55:45

kind of rude, right?

55:49

I was thinking I could get bored of the thumb, but then

55:51

he changed it to a heart, right? And

55:53

then he did a ha ha. And

55:55

the actual man was like, he had no time

55:57

for you. I'm gonna tell you, will that tell

55:59

you? Somebody got me like he asked one time I

56:02

said also what you want to do What's

56:04

your name? Austin? That's a good name. I like this. What do you want

56:06

to do? You know why it's a good name is a good name on

56:08

paper and I talked about this I didn't want him

56:10

to deal with Tyrone or Donnell. I wanted

56:12

him to get in the room Yeah

56:17

I said also what do you mean? He said daddy

56:19

I want to be in entertainment and I was like,

56:21

oh come on man You know first

56:24

you think like oh I wanted to walk in my

56:26

footsteps with all like come on and then I was

56:28

like Well, you know, there's a lot

56:30

of rejection in this business. I'm being real with him I was

56:32

gonna be a lot of stuff something not gonna support you I

56:35

said you're gonna have to be tough you got to deal

56:37

with no you had to deal with the negative stuff and

56:39

everything I was like, maybe you want to consider being a

56:41

funny doctor or a funny lawyer Whatever right and

56:44

then I was like you still want to do it.

56:46

He was like, yeah, I was like, why he said

56:48

daddy Cuz you inspire me. I was like, oh damn,

56:50

bro Yo,

56:54

you sus dude I'm

56:57

here for us, but I'm gonna tell you

56:59

with this special people always ask me what

57:01

makes this special What's so special about this

57:03

special and I tell them

57:05

20 years ago when I was trying to build a

57:07

name for myself I would have been

57:09

super super excited like this is gonna be

57:11

the introduction to the business Whatever,

57:14

but now after 32 year career

57:16

enough people know me where I could make a good living for myself

57:19

Telling joke this is for me is for all

57:21

my fans to say You're

57:24

next you deserve it. Mm-hmm. You

57:26

know I'm saying just the way you said like,

57:28

you know, Donnell You've been a beast for so

57:30

many years Well, but I think that this is

57:32

a reward in the sense of a college accomplishment

57:34

for my fans for those people I you underrated

57:36

I never agree with underrated because you gotta ask

57:38

yourself Who's rating you because the people

57:40

know, you know, you've never said that about underrated, but

57:43

you know that I do my thing I heard that

57:45

so I think that this is a this

57:47

is a calling for for for

57:49

that I had a conversation with Dave a couple

57:51

weeks ago and like Especially

57:54

like with black comedians. It's such a cloud of

57:56

negative stuff going on. Why is that? Let's

57:59

see lately I'll tell you that I

58:01

want to talk to you about I tell you for one

58:03

for one reason that For some reason

58:05

in the black community we feel like it can

58:07

only be one comic. That's that dude at one

58:09

time Oh, you know I'm saying it's like I'm

58:12

in thinking the crab mentality want to pull them

58:14

down so they can go up Yeah, it's like

58:16

crabs is crabs in the bed I'm not talking

58:18

against my people about no means but I asked

58:20

myself why can we all get along? I

58:23

say this and even Dave asked me because we were talking about you

58:25

know some people to go him and he said why

58:27

do people Why do you think

58:29

that people act like that and feel that way to

58:31

me Dave? I said because a lot of times when

58:34

people don't know what their path is yours

58:36

your success Just

58:38

mirrors their failures and what they're not doing

58:40

security. So they lash out or they lash

58:43

out instead instead of saying Alright,

58:46

here's the blueprint. Yeah, okay. What made him who

58:48

he is, you know What type of work ethic

58:50

is this stuff do I have to deal with

58:52

together? You don't look at that you want to

58:54

bring people down but another thing Misconception

58:56

they say only black people

58:58

go away only black communities got each other like

59:00

that No, no, I said we'll see what white

59:03

people which I do is y'all put it under

59:05

umbrella of a roast We

59:09

do it on a stage and we do

59:11

it like but y'all be like fuck it

59:17

Like you think black people go out have you ever

59:19

seen Jeff Ross do a roast? Oh my god, have

59:21

you ever seen Tony Hinscliffe do a row Russia? It

59:23

is murder. That's why I don't do rose. I was

59:25

like, I'm going to start a fight Yeah, I'm not

59:28

I don't even don't even put me in some deposition

59:30

because you tell them I did what they do as

59:32

well You're just

59:34

just jokes. No, that was not the truth

59:37

You know cat Williams. Yeah one of the one of

59:39

the great comics. Yeah, I mean if you really look

59:41

at his body of work Yeah, what was that all

59:43

about? I this is what I think

59:46

where you can't win situation Rehombre he's for that

59:48

into you're referring to the Shannon Sharpe interview. Yeah.

59:50

Yeah, I think it was a Colorful

59:52

I think that entertain it was the funny thing

59:54

about the interview is that cat wins is very

59:56

short He did three hours interview in his feet

59:58

never touched the ground It

1:00:01

looked like he was riding an imaginary bicycle, right?

1:00:04

But the funny thing was that Shannon Sharp

1:00:06

is so animated, right? It didn't matter what

1:00:09

Cat Williams said. Oh, you can't say that,

1:00:11

Cat. Okay. Come on, Cat. You

1:00:13

can't say that. Come on, Cat. Oh,

1:00:15

come on, Cat. No matter what he said. No, no,

1:00:17

no, no. Cat, you can't say that. He's the best.

1:00:19

Cat Williams was like, I'm four foot three. Oh, no,

1:00:22

Cat. You can't say that. You know you four one,

1:00:24

Cat. But I think

1:00:26

it was what it was. It was like enough

1:00:28

is enough. I think that the conversation that Cat

1:00:30

Williams had was a conversation.

1:00:32

It was locker room talk. I think like, you

1:00:34

know, it was stuff that all him and his

1:00:36

boys talk about. And I think finally he

1:00:39

just got fed up with it and he wanted to

1:00:41

say what his truth was. You know what I'm saying?

1:00:43

And I don't have a problem with that. Somebody said,

1:00:45

Donnell. Yeah. But see, it was

1:00:47

funny. It was also funny as fuck. It was almost

1:00:49

like a one hour. Yeah, but I see it here.

1:00:51

So we say it's his truth, but how much of

1:00:53

it is it? Maybe he thinks it's the truth. I'm

1:00:55

sure there's some people out there that beg to differ.

1:00:57

Yeah, it is. But those people that beg to differ,

1:01:00

like he has like, you know, all of these famous people,

1:01:02

they got the group of people that are fan base. Like

1:01:06

Nicki Minaj, she got the Barb's. I

1:01:08

had beef with them for two weeks. Oh, man. They

1:01:11

were Swifties? No, no, no. The Swifties, I

1:01:13

got love for them. The

1:01:16

Swifties never had beef with the Barb's.

1:01:18

The Beehives, I've had beef with them.

1:01:20

Who are the Beehives? The Shobbinators. That's

1:01:22

Beyonce. Okay. Right. You

1:01:25

got the Beehives. You got the Swifties. The Beehives

1:01:27

are who? They're for Nicki Minaj. Okay. Trouble.

1:01:30

Yeah. If they come for you, it's

1:01:32

trouble. Really? No, the reason, well, this came

1:01:35

from me. I did David Spade's show, right? It was like one of

1:01:37

the topical shows. Yeah, I love that show. Where they bring, like, the

1:01:39

one of the top was Cardi

1:01:41

B Nicki Minaj. And I said, I'm trying to be

1:01:43

funny. I said, the reason why Cardi, Nicki Minaj is

1:01:45

so upset with Cardi B, because Cardi

1:01:47

B is taking her shine. The

1:01:49

Barb's did not like that. Damn.

1:01:52

They attacked my page. They was like,

1:01:54

they was putting clown faces, guns,

1:01:58

knives and everything. They

1:02:00

was like this we found this page meet

1:02:02

us over there, right? Yeah, they hit them

1:02:05

They would and it was putting unicorns everything.

1:02:07

I just had to say I'm sorry Yeah,

1:02:09

my bad. Yeah, but now I'll has as

1:02:11

notorious as those groups are

1:02:13

nobody and I named him this Nobody

1:02:16

is more gangster than cat whims in the

1:02:18

kitty cat. Oh Yes,

1:02:20

they're right. He's got some followers. I could what

1:02:22

it's a cult. There's nothing you can

1:02:24

That's why you say the reason why people don't address

1:02:26

it because there was nothing you can say Even

1:02:29

if you've tried to have rational thinking and whatever it's

1:02:32

gonna be like, where's the lie? Where's the

1:02:34

lie? Yeah, the exposure where we are when

1:02:36

they people saying that he was smoking crap.

1:02:38

What was y'all saying? I was like, guess

1:02:40

what? I wasn't saying that yeah,

1:02:42

I'm saying I bet and I don't have anything

1:02:44

bad to say my cat Yeah, I think it

1:02:46

was a person that was which was was frustrated

1:02:49

And he has some built-up. He was he

1:02:52

was upset about it and also know it was

1:02:54

a person that knew that He

1:02:56

got a tour coming on to You

1:02:59

don't say and it's gonna drive some sales or whatever.

1:03:01

But I don't million views. Yeah Really?

1:03:05

It really broke the internet. But oh,

1:03:07

yeah, I'm tell you I don't want

1:03:10

or start trouble with anybody No when I go

1:03:12

to us club or whatever I

1:03:14

don't have I don't befriend a lot of comedians like

1:03:16

people I will or you starting to change

1:03:18

cuz you You blowing up. No, you don't mess with

1:03:20

them But you don't fuck with nobody cuz you you

1:03:22

brought off like no, I never fucked with anybody now

1:03:25

You know saying and I know even with that

1:03:27

situation we're speaking about earlier It's

1:03:29

a lot of ways that could probably have to handle that

1:03:31

but I got triggered. I responded

1:03:34

to it and That

1:03:37

was it well, I will say Funny

1:03:40

way I shut it down and

1:03:42

this is why look at I was okay the name of your special, right?

1:03:45

What is it? It's called a new day

1:03:48

So as much as we had a little war or whatever

1:03:50

you want to say that's going on. It's

1:03:52

a new day. Yep Yep, it's

1:03:54

a new dawn. You can see it man. I love that. I

1:03:56

love it. Did you feel like when you? watched

1:04:00

it? I really did, bro. I

1:04:02

really did. First of all, I was like, I

1:04:05

was I didn't realize you hadn't done a special. And

1:04:07

having watched you for so many years, just crush

1:04:10

a room and just be unique. Like you're you're

1:04:12

the best compliment you can give a comic is

1:04:14

I just think you have a very unique voice.

1:04:16

There's no I've never seen a comic. I've

1:04:19

never seen. I've never seen you do your

1:04:21

stand up and go Oh, that's just like

1:04:23

or that doesn't remind me anybody and that's

1:04:25

what that's a huge thing. But that's your

1:04:27

original self expression. Special drops on the 27th.

1:04:29

But as you said that because you know,

1:04:32

people talk about like jokes still and everything.

1:04:34

And when people talk about jokes that I've

1:04:36

noted in our business, that's the big deal,

1:04:38

right? But I, you know, I know

1:04:40

this is crazy, but there was an unwritten rule back

1:04:42

in the day. It's not your joke until you put

1:04:44

it on TV. Right? That's what it

1:04:46

was. And that was like, I heard old timers say that whatever.

1:04:49

And back in the day, what we I didn't go

1:04:51

where we didn't have the internet. Our

1:04:53

thing was somebody so you know, you beat them up. Right?

1:04:56

You beat them up and then you write another This

1:04:58

is my feeling on joke fees. If

1:05:00

you have a joke that

1:05:03

somebody could steal that easily, then guess

1:05:05

what? That's how I found

1:05:07

that's a great point. You know, I've always

1:05:09

said that said that. I mean, black promises

1:05:11

and shit. Black comic. Okay. They

1:05:14

were arguing about a joke that I got a

1:05:16

joke about being poor and having a bootleg Halloween

1:05:18

costume. Every black comic in the

1:05:20

hood dressed up as

1:05:23

guess what the number one outfit was.

1:05:25

It was a box and it was

1:05:27

a ghost. Right.

1:05:29

And my outfit, we was boxing. We

1:05:31

were broke. We had pieces of outfits.

1:05:34

Yo, one day I was in Washington, DC, Alexandria,

1:05:38

Virginia. When I when we were growing up,

1:05:40

I remember Halloween. One day I was the

1:05:43

Hulk Spider-Man and Superman in one outfit. I

1:05:46

had Spider-Man web. I had Superman

1:05:49

cape. And I had another mask

1:05:51

and shit. I was Negro man. I was a

1:05:53

good man. That's what I'm

1:05:55

saying. But even with this

1:05:57

special, even a special, I shot this special. A lot

1:05:59

of people don't know is two years

1:06:01

ago, we took a stab at this special,

1:06:04

right? We did it at the bring up

1:06:06

to COVID, right? We did this

1:06:08

special and we got it. And I'm like, oh man,

1:06:10

I got a special out. And Dave called me and

1:06:12

he said, Donnell, I want to shoot

1:06:14

your special again. That's the most insulting thing

1:06:16

you could say to a comedian. Cause the first question

1:06:18

you're gonna say is, it wasn't funny. You

1:06:21

know? And I was like, how do I go from doing a

1:06:23

chest bump with Stan

1:06:25

Lathan, high fiving Ricky

1:06:27

Hughes, hugging one of my closest friends until you

1:06:29

want to do it again? And Dave said, Donnell,

1:06:31

you are one of the funniest comics I know. He

1:06:33

said, I can put you in any room and you're

1:06:36

gonna rip the room up. He said, but that does

1:06:38

not make it a great special. So

1:06:40

I had to deal with some

1:06:42

constructive criticism. At the time I

1:06:45

was like, whatever, but the check cleared. So

1:06:47

I was like, all right, okay, I'll listen.

1:06:49

Let's do it again. Right? Yeah. It

1:06:51

was worth the wait. It was worth it. A year later,

1:06:53

we were in Napa Valley. This was just random. We

1:06:55

were doing some shows and one of his

1:06:58

producers was there. He always records all

1:07:00

of his shows, right? For whatever reason, they had

1:07:02

to create an archive, whatever. He said,

1:07:04

Ricky, how many cameras do we have? She said, we got five.

1:07:06

He looked at me and he said, Donnell, do you want to

1:07:08

do your special? I said, when? He said, tomorrow. And

1:07:11

I couldn't be no punk. I was like, first I was

1:07:13

like, ooh. Yeah. Right,

1:07:15

but then I was changing my stuff. I was like, well, I need a

1:07:18

suit, right? Well, I need a tire. So I said, I want to do

1:07:20

a certain look. The first time I did it, I was going for like

1:07:22

a rock and roll type of joint. And then when we looked at that,

1:07:24

I was like, Rock Dave was like, you're a rock star. You're

1:07:27

sent me to have lights. And

1:07:29

I had on John R. Vadoe sneakers, you

1:07:31

know what I'm saying? Like the jean jacket

1:07:34

and all that. And then, so

1:07:37

we shot it. And

1:07:39

I was excited about this because it wasn't no

1:07:41

announcement. I didn't have to worry about getting anybody, no free

1:07:43

tickets or anything. There was only three people

1:07:45

knew that we were trying to do a special. That

1:07:47

was me, Dave, Ricky, maybe four. And

1:07:49

I was like, this is what I saw. No,

1:07:51

no, no, no. Okay, okay, okay. This is

1:07:54

the one I can. No, I think he can

1:07:56

the first one. Then the second one, I

1:07:58

don't really consider this to count because we just. rolled

1:08:00

the dice. I was like hell yeah since we

1:08:02

got the cameras you know make now

1:08:04

I don't have the pressure of my family anything yeah nobody

1:08:06

knew what this was then I didn't have the pressure like

1:08:08

you got to do it I was like it's just a

1:08:11

regular set and that's the vibe I want to be on

1:08:13

rip that special right a month

1:08:15

later I'm like I'm

1:08:18

calling a Robbie pro from Netflix right because Robbie's

1:08:20

like we're just special we're the special called Robbie

1:08:23

and I'm David no I was like yo I think

1:08:25

we got it he was like let me see it

1:08:27

motherfucker then as they said I want

1:08:29

to do it again I'm like why

1:08:31

he said I didn't like to production like motherfucker you

1:08:33

the producer is that self-hate

1:08:35

perfection right perfection this is what he

1:08:37

said second time he said Donnell

1:08:41

out of all the specials I'm producing

1:08:44

right he said because of my relationship with

1:08:46

you in the Chappelle show and attaching his

1:08:48

brand yours is the most anticipated special

1:08:50

out of everybody he said I wanted

1:08:53

to be right and he was a perfectionist

1:08:56

I he was like there's people walking around and I

1:08:58

see it and I'm trying to argue I was like

1:09:00

yeah but Richard Pryor live is since it stripped one

1:09:02

of the best jokes he had was when people was

1:09:04

coming coming from the bathroom I was like let's keep

1:09:07

it classic let's keep it raw right he was like

1:09:10

I said is it something we can handle the pose he said yeah

1:09:12

Donna is your special he wanted me to put it

1:09:14

out I will and I was like yeah these here

1:09:16

but I think

1:09:19

so it was those two attempts and every

1:09:21

step of the way I took

1:09:23

his notes I was doing

1:09:26

my homework number one time we was on one of

1:09:28

his planes we was going swear and I'm throwing him

1:09:30

ideas for promos I got this idea

1:09:32

for a promo he said you

1:09:35

weren't about promos you need to be worrying about your

1:09:37

jokes and I said Dave I'm not gonna let you talk

1:09:39

talk to me like that I say if you would

1:09:41

come out the green room cuz he's always in agreement

1:09:43

wouldn't check my sets up if you

1:09:45

come out the green room if you see what

1:09:47

I do these arenas if you were watching tapes

1:09:49

I send you you understand how disrespectful you I'm

1:09:51

listening to you I'm doing

1:09:53

my homework every time you actually do

1:09:55

something I corrected or whatever cut

1:09:58

to the Third

1:10:00

time and all the notes

1:10:02

and I talked to y'all came together They don't came together

1:10:04

even after the first time Jeff was like you do it

1:10:06

again He said both people don't never do that and

1:10:09

he has so much respect for me that I had

1:10:11

already got my money And the next

1:10:13

goal to re go around he had to put more

1:10:15

money up But you're

1:10:18

worth it. And that's why when motherfuckers like Sorry

1:10:20

to do it Cory Holcomb talks

1:10:23

shit about a guy that put

1:10:25

one of the biggest checks I've ever said about

1:10:27

it One of the biggest checks I ever seen

1:10:29

in my life The guy

1:10:31

that negotiated my contract where one of

1:10:33

the biggest chicks ever got he had a clause in

1:10:35

my contract that If they want to

1:10:38

work with me again that they got a minimum They

1:10:41

got to give me that money again Motherfucker

1:10:43

for for me to like it's licensed to

1:10:45

Netflix for five years after that. I think

1:10:47

I have ownership Yeah, that's great. The guy

1:10:49

that says, you know what, Donnell? I

1:10:52

don't got to keep producing your specials after just let me

1:10:54

do this one and You

1:10:56

go from there and another thing you was a

1:10:58

special you saw the special and one of the

1:11:00

things that you you said That I

1:11:02

really really appreciate you was you said the

1:11:05

opening of it because this

1:11:07

when we would have some creative

1:11:09

differences He said down there do this for me. You

1:11:11

work on the jokes you do that part Let me

1:11:13

do the bells and whistles and

1:11:15

I didn't know what intro I was gonna do I was stuck every

1:11:18

time I picked something like and Then

1:11:21

he said I got an idea and when he told

1:11:23

me that idea the reason why I resonated

1:11:25

so much because He

1:11:27

took what the song means. Yeah,

1:11:30

took what I care about with you He's a

1:11:32

wagyu your face looking at like like come on

1:11:34

Well, I don't want to give it away, but

1:11:36

you don't even know when you see that intro

1:11:38

It was like I've never seen that side of

1:11:40

you, right? You know what I mean? I got

1:11:42

another way to change another thing it showcases me

1:11:45

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Some time in the early 80s,

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Ario Speedwagon's airplane made an unannounced

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amounts of drugs coming in from South America.

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nothing was quite as strange as what we

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