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On a wintery night, in a
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small community near Denver,
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Colorado, Jim
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Matthews arrived home late. He
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expected to find his twelve year old daughter
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who'd been dropped off after a Christmas
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concert. But when he called
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out, hey, Jonelle, The
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house was eerily quiet. His
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daughter's shoes were on the floor, but
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she was gone. And
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it would be thirty five years
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before she would be found dead.
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After the discovery of Jonel Mathew's
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body in twenty nineteen, the police
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turned their attention to a man who
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had told law enforcement years ago
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that he knew something, but
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they dismissed him.
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The man did seem obsessed with the
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case. But is that all
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he was? A true
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crime fanatic or a killer.
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Wondry, and campsite media's
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shocking true crime podcast suspect
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a story that attempts to separate
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fact from fiction, compulsion
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from guilt. And one man's
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true crime obsession from
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Weld County is a Des cert.
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Feels relatively warm
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outside for Colorado in December,
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and this the sky is just
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this Caribbean blue. It's
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winter, but it's hot out, dry,
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and dusty. The snow happed
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rocky mountains are all behind
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us. Ahead, it's
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flat. The horizon goes on
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ever.
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I feel like we're in the Wikipedia of tumbleweeds.
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Don't you feel rich in Tombridge and Tombleeds?
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Yeah. Oh, shit. People
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tear ass down this road. A few
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of the trucks passing us are souped
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up, brand new, tires, jacked
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high, oil and gas workers
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apparently unbothered by speed
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limits if there is a
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speed limit out here. We're
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relieved to turn into a dirt driveway
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of a lone rambling house. Hi,
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guys. Hello
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again. Nice
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to meet you. I'm Jodie. You can try it. Vance
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and Jody Gilliland live so far
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from most of their neighbors that it's easier
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to drive to see them. Across
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from their house is a field that stretches
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about a thousand acres. It's
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full of brush and weeds. The
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kind of place where people often well
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abandon things. Old
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mattresses, washers, and dryers,
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even boats, It's like, wow.
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Almost tended to hook that up and take it home and see
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what I can do. But No.
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I mean, people still still do dump
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things out here, but it's
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usually quick and round, quick and
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round. I mean, what they can show up the back, what trucking
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two seconds. In
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the summer of twenty nineteen, Vance
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and Jody were in their kitchen when they saw
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blue and red lights flashing across
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the perimeter of their property. All
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of a sudden, there was cop cars
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going by, and I was like, uh-oh. Up
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until it was dark, actually, we're out there.
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They were out there forever. Vance
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and Jody soon learned those oil and
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gas workers and their fancy pickups
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they'd unearth a small
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human skull with a
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single bullet hole in it. And
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authorities knew exactly
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who the remains belong
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to.
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It is the cold case that has baffled the
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Greeley community for nearly thirty
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five years, but tonight, police may be
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closer to figuring out what happened to Janelle
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Matthews. The twelve year old disappeared from
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her home in late nineteen eighty
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four. Her remains were discovered this
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week. By a construction crew in rural
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Weld County. Gone for thirty
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five years, today, human remains founded
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in oil and gas fighting Greeley give investigators
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new leads on a decades old
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cold case.
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Like a lot of Colorado residents
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who had been following Janelle's case
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since the nineteen eighties. Vance
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and Jody watched the news reports
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with fascination. They
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waited to hear what would happen next,
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hoping that the remains in the
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field would finally lead investigators
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to the killer. As it
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turned out, it wouldn't be
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nearly so simple. This
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is a story about obsession, my
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own. Sure. So
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I am working on a podcast
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about the Janelle Matthews
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case. I know you know about
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that case. Right? I assume
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you're probably well versed. I thought
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I'd try you one last time, but
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also the obsession of a community that
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kept pushing to find Janelle
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to get her name into the national
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spotlight. And all the
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way to the White House. For example,
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I learned about Jonelle Matthews
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of Greeley, Colorado. Who
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would have celebrated a happy thirteenth birthday
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with her family
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just last month. And it's about
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the obsessions of a self described
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true crime junkie. A man
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who had started talking about the
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Janelle Matthews case just
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a few days after police responded
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to a distress call from
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her home. And over the next
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thirty five years, he
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kept talking
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and talking. It was just
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me trying to being
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a big man in the case. He's a
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busy body. He gets himself in the middle
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of murder cases, but that doesn't
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necessarily mean actually
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was involved in them. People are like, oh, he's
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just crazy and he's just he's he's
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just being bad or or
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whatever else he's he's harmless.
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He wouldn't hurt anybody. He's such a
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good liar that he can convince the juror
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that he wasn't involved. So
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You know? He's a liar. He is. He
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was a good one. I turned around and
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I said, you're gonna be arrested for obstructing.
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If you don't get back in your car,
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And he says, don't fuck
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with me, officer Edgerton. I
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buried more people than you'll know. When
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he shot Janelle Matthews in the forehead, was
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she begging for her life. Never
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