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Hi guys, welcome back to the Flower Files. This week we have a very special guest, one that will be back occasionally to talk us through what's going on in the farm.

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Kenly is all things seeds.

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She does all things home farm planting, transplanting, making sure that all the plants are growing successfully and, if they're not doing something about it, if there's a plant in the field, she's touched it in some form or fashion.

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She waters the little babies, yells at me when I forget to water them.

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I've crunched a couple weeks ago.

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This episode we're going to lovingly call the Kenly Chronicles.

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And you'll hear from her a couple times a year just to kind of talk about the different seasons and the different things that go on.

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And I would love to explain that she is also related.

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So we say family business, we've got lots of family from all over and that's that weird.

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Like you're a cousin of a second cousin, of a cousin, like it's my mom and your dad's dad for brother and sister, so that makes my mom and your dad cousins.

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But that means you and I are, I think, our second cousins.

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Yes, we're your second cousins.

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But there's an age difference. Second cousin is a third.

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She's 23 and he's seven months old is second cousins with lizzy?

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I think third. And she's 23, and he's seven months old. So its like whole backwards, family everything.

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So down to like we're all allergic to bananas.

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Yes, I say things backwards.

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I was like eggs on your ketchup.

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No, it was right, I don't know for Liz, it might be eggs on my ketchup.

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Well, when I used to work with Sammy, her brother Kingstown now The M ill we were just talking one day about like food, and he was like I have a ketchup on my eggs and was like thank God someone else does it.

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It must be that like relative thing.

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I was like, okay, so we are related.

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He's like.

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I can't eat plain eggs. I'm like oh, me either.

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Yeah, and you are like the queen of everything and I'm like I am, I'm the queen over there at your house with like.

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I'm trying my best to do anything to that thing.

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You're like no, sorry, too u . b. Can't. Can't w t the e he chickens. t w w w t e t r f eggs the five hundred chickens.

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My dad just hatched another 20 this weekend, gosh, I think he just likes hatching now.

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I think it's to be able to sell them in the spring for like spring layers.

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But, jimmy Crickets, you gotta nurse them all through the winter and make s s s freeze suckers don't freak.

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Uh-uh, that is too much work.

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Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

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But okay, focus, right, Focus.

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Yeah press up, yeah, point, point, point, and we're going to have a very long list of questions for you.

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So hi Kenley, who are you?

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I am Kenly. I don't really know how to explain it.

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What is your job?

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I do everything.

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I do everything, yeah Seeds, planting, weeding, landscaping, fine garden.

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Sorry, Some arranging aanging no bouquets or anything.

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We're like little mazes For sure.

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Deliveries, Delivering I'm cutting, you know, cattle Like.

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You need me for something? Okay, that's fine.

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Yeah, but you enjoy that, I do.

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You don't want to do the same thing every day.

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That's your like. What are we doing today?

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What are you doing? Yeah, how did you get started here?

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So, like we just talked about, we're family, so it was beginning of COVID and w ias before.

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Was it before before? Okay, yeah, it was the spring 2018 2019.

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That's when I graduated school. You had started and that was that spring.

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Yeah, it's COVID and it was.

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I went to Philly, my and we.

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I never went back to school. It was spring break and that was it.

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Yeah, you started that summer a couple hours here, and there I have the very first picture of Kenley in the field.

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The Sun was rising, it was so pretty, and now she's like taller and older.

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So my mom had. It's like hey, it's COVID.

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Like school is not going like as it should be going, she's free time and she wants money, so she takes it by the.

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You're like hey, my daughter's free and she's like great.

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Great, we're busy.

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Thank god, I don't think we could make or teach anybody else like are you the knowledge that you have?

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you've been with us ground up. Literally you've been with us with a ohalf o a hoop house before amber I mean.

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I was like that was good Rolling around playing stuff at night with headlamps, like and they were like meeting more help.

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And amber was like, well, we're finished with this, and I was like you want to roll around?

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What do you wish other people knew about your job? Is it all pretty?

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Is it all dirt A?

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lot of people. When they ask me what I do, I say, oh, I'm a flower farmer.

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t they're hey're like oh, that must be so easy. You just need to play with flowers all day.

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I'm like.

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Let me shove the answer and stain it up your nose.

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Come do my job, for it like seriously it's.

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It's not just, oh, I get to cut flowers and do all the pretty stuff, it's carrying 2 20 pound bags for 100, 100 not 100 yards, 100 feet down row just to place them and then walk back up and do it 100 more times and then it's laying fabric and pulling pins, and half the time pins don't even want to come out of the ground.

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And it's just we'll touch on that a little bit.

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Yeah, it's just so much hard labor that people don't realize that goes into making flowers pretty.

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Yeah you have a lot of logistics too, like you plan out the field with mom, but like you plan out where things should go next to each other because of the rotations and the amount and the sizing and how you think they're gonna grow.

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And and what we've learned what grows in our soil and what doesn't, yeah, so it's like that mental, like checkbox in a way that I feel like you, you have that can be a float in the back of my brain.

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She's really, really good about the fact that, like, we'll sit down, we'll do a spreadsheet, we lay out all out and it looks great, we put it all together and then I stand out in the field and go wait a minute, we don't have enough.

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You're like, no, we're okay. I'm like, but no, we, we need to plant corn.

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You're like, no, we have more coming.

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And I'm like wait, we have happened this fall, because I did the math and I was like, okay, so we should have about like 15 rows of stuff and the germination's weren't Germination rates weren't great, and I planted a couple more things and she was like there's not enough.

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I was thinking trust the process you agree, even yeah.

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So now we have extra that we get to Hopefully sell in the spring and everything goes well and I think we ended up with 13 rows total.

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I thought it was 15, yeah, 13.

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I don't know what amount there we've got 30 rows.

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You know it's it's a lot and I think it's it's the most we've had for spring so far.

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I'm really excited.

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And it's all looking really good. It does.

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It's like, okay, hey, you're still probably the first year in a very long time that we've had everything in the ground before December.

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Well, before November, really before.

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November yeah, last year, like middle of December, we're still planting.

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Yeah, we were in that oh shit, we've got to get this done, hurry up.

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But it was mild for so long and then we were busy and we just it just.

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You know how I was kind of busy last year. For what?

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Yeah, it was more than this year.

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It was more frantic. I feel like last year.

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Yeah, sure, yeah, we've had a lot of like that infrastructure, like it makes a difference, makes a huge difference.

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This was all a really great segue, because how do you collaborate with everybody else to figure out what we need to plant?

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How do you take the wedding inquiries from lysa and nicole?

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Take them to lizzie that says, okay, I need x amount of this to build this and go Okay, I need to plant x, y and z.

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Um, I feel like that's a process, because you go, you're in here, you go through your catalogue, you sit and ask us okay, here are the gladiolists Next year, what do you want?

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Like you did that last week. Yeah, and you were like what colors does this make sense with?

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And the red ones are beautiful, but we don't need the red ones.

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Yeah, it's like yeah, that's what I mean.

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I ask Nicole and Lizzie both I'm like what, what colors do we have next year?

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And then catalog comes in and, like last week, me and Lizzie sat down and went through the entire DOC catalogue and we picked out really okay, these are all the zinnias, but what varieties do we want?

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Because we're trying to get away from growing mixes and growing specifically for weddings.

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Right.

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We try to follow the trends and keep up with Instagram interest and like, making sure we're like seeing the trends that are coming.

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Yeah, and like the last three years have been a lot of green and white and white and pink, and then, this year, coming up, it looks like it's going to be a little bit more colorful.

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So we need to take what we've done from last year, minimize that and go a little bit more in color.

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But it's not all colors, because a lot of people don't like reds, don't like yellow, so orange too.

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Yeah, orange is a strange color until it's fall and then everybody look orange, yeah, oh.

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But it's not orange in the wedding world, it's rust, rust and orange oh.

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It's like, okay, it's huge of orange, we get it, we totally get it.

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But you're talking about trends and things. How far in advance are we looking Like?

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We're planting right now. For what?

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We're not currently planting any seeds right now, but December and January we start doing the late spring planting.

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So all of the stuff that's been around right now is very late spring. That's when we start to bloom, beginning of May, probably a little bit earlier.

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All depends on how bad the winter is and when the season changes.

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But honestly, we're starting to plant perennials too.

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Yeah.

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So we're going to be starting to plant perennials also.

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Most of those are spring, early summer, and then, I think, february, we start planting summer stuff and right now we need to find all of our summer seeds.

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And it's hard to do that now because all of the catalogs that have come out through seeds are still 2023, but we need the new 2024 stuff.

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So it's this weird time of year where you're like waiting, but you still need to get on top of it and it's really difficult because you're trying to make sure you can get the seeds because everybody is waiting for that catalog and as soon as that comes, we've made it a habit now of I feel like in the past we've been very like, oh, we'll order after January, and then we're like we can't, like, no, that catalog comes.

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We ahave a We look at what's new, see what we need to add, change to eat, and then we place that order and we can't wait.

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As soon as it gets here, yes, and then we have the thing of which Lizzie and you saw the tuber sale for Dahlia's.

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Yes.

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Great January Okay.

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I'll show it to you.

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Yeah, because that was something that wasn't cut. Our Dahlia numbers look like they're okay from the wholesaler, but those are okay, but there's a couple others that we can add from other suppliers.

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There's a specialty farm out, I think, in Washington state that grows phenomenal Dahlia's.

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They do a tuber sale every winter, yeah they're like really funky Weird color.

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So do we consider what we're going to lose through animal crop damage and through bad weather and all of these things before we plant?

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Yes, how much extra are you planting?

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It all depends on the plant, because some varieties and some species of plants no animals touch and they're extremely I almost said extremely and insanely all the other you did.

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It was phenomenal, it was amazing, it was amazing, it was amazing, it was amazing.

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Some plants are deer and rabbits don't like them, and other ones have insanely cold, hearty.

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It all depends on the variety.

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Some trees will be a couple of rows extra, a half a tray extra, a full tray extra.

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So, like straw flowers, we have 20 trays of straw flower because they don't do good over wintering.

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So we're going to put those in the hoop house this year.

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But even the hoop house gets cold and some of them die.

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So it all depends on. It's all about plants.

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It's all about the it is.

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Well, and how much does that plant produce? I know that once them a buffalo rum we're going to get.

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I can never say never come.

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It's buffalo rum.

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It's buffalo rum.

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But I know that branch is really well and that we're going to get a lot of things from that.

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So I know we don't have to plant a ton of that in proportion, yeah yeah.

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Right now there's like at least two traits, two traits, wow, two rows that receded from last year, that were just like in the field.

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So we're going to cover those and help so we get from the out of them.

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Okay, it's just all the parents Like, what's the like?

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Single A sunflower, yeah, a sunflower.

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So you have three different types of technical. For 30 seconds, let's find out here.

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Yeah, so you have a single cut, like a straw, a sunflower.

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You plant it, you know you get one crop from it, that's, that's it.

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Then you have cut and come again which are like cosmos, and you cut them and they, you keep getting more and more and more.

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And then there's kind of like those, those hybrid mid producers, yeah, where you cut once and then leave it alone and you get a second cutting which is like a hundred and a half.

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So you have to get it out of the way, not be as lush and full.

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Yeah, you get your one hit wonders for your sunflowers.

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There are branching sunflowers where you get more than one stem off of those, but it's still.

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Once you cut it, it's cut and you don't get anymore.

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That's it.

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You're done. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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We have a little bit of a break in the morning this year.

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How does planting in winter work. Does it survive how Cold?

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Early plants and planting two year specific zone really is a huge factor.

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So we have a book that we go by it. It's by Lisa Maston Zane.

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It's called cool, cool plants or cool season plants and stuff like that.

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So you have to plant specific to your zone.

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So we are 7B, I believe.

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Yeah, they've been talking about moving the zones again because of global warming and all of that kind of stuff, I mean.

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But I think we have a microclimate here because we're so close to the day we really do like we get either an insanely harsh winter or, like last year, we had maybe a.

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Like a fart of snow it was a single dusting the morning that I left for Jamaica.

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Yes, I was walking up and I was like we're shading it where it shaded, it won't go away.

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But it was like yeah it looked like frost, it was nothing, yeah.

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But then this year they're calling Cold winter, I don't know.

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Cold mean a lot of snow Covering the plants sorry, um, you have to cover every single cool season plant.

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If you wanted to come back, I'm listening to plenty of those.

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You just cut off and they survive, but you have to cover them because little plants that we plant, they aren't strong enough to be able To make it.

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So if they get frost or freeze hard, really freeze, really bad one night, they don't make it.

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And that happens. Those two years ago you guys might, florida, I was at home sick.

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And why I was on the way.

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I was like, hey, we have a free morning.

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It was rough, we made it, but it was rough.

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Yeah, I think there was ice in that too.

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There was. Yeah, it like stuff broke, like that was just, and you couldn't leave it covered because it would have broken it worse, with all the pressure from the cover like.

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And it was like, oh you uncover, because the snow is a gentle blanket bullshit b blows around and then it snaps and then everything's crooked and especially if it's wet and heavy snow.

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Yeah, that was hard. Yes, and it's a balance that you and I are always trying to like, because it's great the stuff has receded out in the field, but that stuff is like six inches tall and then it burns and it doesn't make it as well as the stuff that we plant just a hair later.

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So it's a little smaller, but it's protected.

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It's so counterintuitive to me.

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Well, not just cover cover drop size or lift them yeah.

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Yeah it's.

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It's not just the stuff that's in the field, it's the stuff that's in the hoop houses.

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Yeah, it is because, like tomorrow morning we get here, it we're gonna get here at 7 30.

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First thing we have to do is uncover, because it's gonna rain, because it's gonna freeze the next two days.

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Do they need water? And Then it's gonna be cold, so we can't like Uncover them, then leave them uncovered.

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Yeah the cover.

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I'm let it rain cover back up and I have a bad habit of like I have the rest, of like we work all day, go home, do dinner, I'd like do the life thing, and then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna go cover.

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So like I Know some people are like, oh, you covered through a clock or four o'clock and then you have more people, but but I don't know if that's always realistic.

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That doesn't always work.

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Yeah, it just yeah, it's a house off and then you drive literally 12 minutes here from town and I have faster slow you go it.

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It's completely dry, like bone dry and you can just see it like chill in its way going back up.

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It's like the time that you guys were on vacation and Kenly and I watched a storm roll and we were trying to tie stuff up.

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Yes, it was not this past summer.

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The summer before you guys to go into the beach, we were watching a storm roll up and trying to beat it.

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It was. How many times have we been in the field with fabric?

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Oh my god, and this fall.

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Trying to do the covers and that wind came.

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It took four of us to hold it so it didn't blow away.

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We were like it was out of nowhere, you could just see it rolling across the field and I was like, and everybody grabbed a section and the wind came and it picked everything up and we were like, literally like.

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I was like, oh, my god, if it had been one person, it would have.

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Oh, it would have completely, like it would have taken us off our feet.

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Yeah, like yeah, but and that's the thing too with weather if you literally get hit really bad or it's absolutely nothing, the rock-pull vortex.

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So we are.

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Are directly across from rock hall and where, whenever god designed to do that to rock hall, it every single storm either splits around it, and we're in that same line it splits around, it doesn't hit us or it actually just barrels through it.

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It's one of the other. Yeah, the good old vortex.

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Yeah, you're expecting rain in 15 minutes and this guy is blue and sunny.

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Yeah, okay, thanks.

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Yeah, how do you keep it all straight?

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Is it all just logged in your noggin?

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Yeah.

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How does the Excel she work? How do you Do it's a beast insane.

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There's at least like 30 subcategories over there because I have every single week split into what needs to be planted that week amazing and so it'll be.

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It's from I Think it starts at week two to week 38 is when it stops, and there's at least Five to ten things that need to be planted that week and you go through.

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You highlight what you've done, you put in there when you planted it, and then I try my best, if I remember, to take out a clipboard and the spreadsheet that I've blown up to go right on and Right what the germination rate is and when it's gone planted into the ground.

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So then I take that information, put it back into the spreadsheet and then do it all over again the next year because it changes.

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You have to go back through every single one of those little sheets and Change like, hey, we had too many staff dry ends, which you.

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Yeah, we have to go back into every single other. They'll be like, hey, we have too much of this variety, let's move but get more weight and then take down more like pink or red, and you have to go through and change that and then why?

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They'll be like hey, I think we need more of this next year, or I'm gonna try this Friday next year.

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So then I have to go through and see, like when that stuff glimps and and put it into that sheet and you have to backtrack of hey, this needs to be blooming in this time, so we need to plant it three months before, sometimes even earlier than that, because, like asters, they did I found out this year, which is kind of stupid for not knowing but you have to plant those in the spring, so we will make it fall.

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But we're trying to do rotations. Yeah, we were trying to do the rotations because I feel like we've had a flush of them and then we didn't have any so much fun to spread it out.

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And we learned that if you plant them too late, they just end up with like you get Barbie arrangements.

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They were.

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Oh my god, they were great for booting here and dog collars.

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We did use them yeah.

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All right brains coming Tomorrow?

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Yes, lots of it. We talked about the pins not wanting to come out of the ground.

24:12

Are you gonna wait until it's nice and dry again to trip the field, or you're gonna strip it while it's wet?

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Which one's better?

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Resident stripper I prefer it's probably easier to do it when it's wet, because the roots are like nice loose yes.

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But I hate pulling stuff, that's half as tall as me, and it's soaking wet.

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Yeah so probably when it's dry and I don't probably be I.

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Well, we leave everything in the field at the end of this season because I'm this weird, but it's also kind of To.

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I don't know it, just it's how it works.

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Yeah, and plus, that's not so much on us to like, hey, we have to work out the ground right now.

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It's one more thing for us to have to do.

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It can sit like there's literally no harm.

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It's benefiting the soil and the birds.

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It's a little bit of cover crop kind of in a way, yeah because there's some things that come up.

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It just I don't know.

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It's a little bit of a pervading weed and it's put into the nutrients that was in those plants back into the soil.

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It's providing food for the birds and it's just less prefer to do at the moment, something I don't know about you, but I'd rather rip stuff out when I'm covered.

25:39

Yeah, you know, and I've got a jacket and a sweatshirt and everything else.

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Yeah, yeah all of it.

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Fun story. Do you remember the first? Like December, january, you and I were here and the guys were here helping us strip the field and they were like completely blowing us away.

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The doll fell in his dad. Oh yeah, yeah, they were just completely blowing us away.

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You and I had stripped like I don't know two rows and the time they took them to do like seven, yeah, you and I were dead, just like pretty sure.

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We were just gonna like kneel over and die. Right there they were like this is great, we're having a great time.

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And I was like no, no.

26:19

That was like the girls. This past week we were at Toyons with Riaz and we were picking up leaves and, like me and Sierra were like go on hand.

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Wednesday, great, we jump around on the trailer trying to push the leaves down.

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Thursday we were a little bit slower. Friday we did.

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We both wanted to leave. We were just tired. They showed up happy and ever just like I'm trucking.

26:40

I'm like how do you do it? Like what kind of crack are you on?

26:41

Yeah, yeah. How are your arms not sore?

26:44

How are your legs not sore?

26:45

My legs hurt so bad, Like if you're going to need a workout.

26:48

Clean up your yard and stop rambling and jump trailers.

26:51

Girl the monkey balls. Clean up the monkey balls Any of the balls.

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No, dude, they're monkey balls. Yeah, oh that was.

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Any of the leaves I think stick to you yeah.

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My favorite monkey balls, sweet gumball, whatever you want to call a story is.

27:09

Will was a little little little dude. He was Two and it was cold, so he was in a polar fleece.

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Hold one piece thing.

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Hood, arms, everything, feet covered everything.

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He went out and he wanted to help mom and grandmother and he you know the round, he's little slipped himself.

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He fell down face first and then he rolled over to get up, so he was covered front and back.

27:47

I don't, did he cry?

27:49

No, he didn't cry, I was laughing.

27:56

I mean, he was in pain, he was totally protected.

28:00

Yeah.

28:01

He was like you're like minion, he's got to fall over.

28:09

All right, now the fun ones. What's the smallest seed you've ever planted?

28:17

Not what I thought you would say. I thought you would say snapdragon Notice Ever asked me.

28:22

You planted not what she's planted.

28:26

Because I feed the fish. That's pretty good.

28:30

You're still to this day. It is the best like amount of snapdrigans that we've ever had.

28:36

I'm no 300 in the trade.

28:37

It was for that 50. Please look for like forever yeah literally could be playing to each other yeah, because they were all trying to out compete.

28:47

We had buckets of stuff that year, I think it was the guys that planted them, actually, and they were like splitting the little cubes in half to try to split them up.

28:57

Oh my god.

29:00

Oh my god.

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That was bad, but yeah, now Fossilum it's like dust, I think.

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If there's no answer in the story, it literally looks like dust that I've helped a lot before.

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And then, if you think about, it.

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if you look at a foxacoflare, you have your trumpet floral shape and you've got those three little anthers that come up and there's little teeny, tiny yellow like stigmas.

29:21

Is that what it is? Stigmas style, anther filament, all of the things.

29:25

Yeah, the little fluffy yellow things at the end, those are seeds, like they're so small, and the petals of coia.

29:34

Yeah, I'm sure you can't believe we're bringing Fossilum and Pulaver and I.

29:41

That's Larkspur. Yeah, larkspur has warnings all over it.

29:46

Do not eat poisonous All parts of this plant. Okay, grind it up my feet.

29:52

What about the largest seeds?

29:56

I would have said. I would have said Probably syrin Bam. That's exactly what.

29:59

I would have said. That is exactly what I would have said. They look like dog toenails.

30:01

They're the exact same shape and they're just as hard.

30:03

Yeah, and they're really gross. It's like you went to the vet office and you swept up the floor at the end of the day and you're like you know, and it's such like a pretty flowery one that's like you can't see from it.

30:09

It's so strange.

30:10

Does that mean that it's in competition for the weirdest, too Weirdest scene?

30:13

Yeah, no.

30:13

I don't know I don't know I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

30:18

I don't know, they're like they're like weird, they're like weird, they're like and I'll say that, but they look like those two.

30:33

Weirdest scene, yeah.

30:35

No, I think calendula sees. It's probably the weirdest.

30:38

They're really like circles. They're like we do have a thing with circles.

30:40

Anyway, yeah, I do. I've got no proof of that. You know what it's called.

30:43

I know, like these are the things that chase me around the barn six times with a load of blood.

30:47

That just proves that exposure therapy works.

30:49

Yeah it does. Yeah, don't worry.

30:52

Sometimes they are a little gross, they even like no yeah.

30:58

Coincidence, because I guess the way their petals are the thief and they curl up at the end of their life cycle so they turn into like half circles.

31:08

They kind of sometimes they're like a full circle.

31:11

They're really weird.

31:12

They're strange. They're weird to put in the soil, Like to get them in.

31:17

You have to like work.

31:19

You know what I mean oh yeah, kelly's got all the science figured out, she's got the light press.

31:25

Just leave it on top, bury it, drench it in water.

31:29

It's bottom water only. Don't give it any water at all, ever.

31:36

Don't look at it sideways.

31:38

It doesn't like it hot. It likes to be germinated in the back in the shade, like high airflow.

31:45

It's a science itself. It takes a lot of time and people even like now, like PJ's grandma, my fiance's grandmother came up with me one day.

31:54

She said I can't get solution to germinate.

31:56

How do you do it? I'm like what she's like.

32:00

Maybe it's there in the shade, maybe, in my knowledge, it's on top of the soil.

32:04

She's like oh okay, and a lot of people think mistakenly, that they need light to germinate.

32:10

But things that need to sit on top of the soil actually have a high airflow requirement.

32:15

So a lot of people are like, oh, that needs light to.

32:17

No, it's not light to Germany, it's high up.

32:21

It's about seeds in the real world. They just have fallen around and do the thing, that's air fall.

32:25

All of the tulip tree seeds that you hate and drive by oh my God.

32:29

You guys?

32:32

What are those seeds? Those are tulip trees.

32:35

Oh my God, you have the bright orange flower and you've got the little dudes in the center and they all like well and they're sharp and they're sticking your cracks and they're sharp in the bottom of your shoes.

32:47

I don't like them. Bump stuff, it's a science.

32:52

Kenley has it all figured out and she would be next to impossible to replace Great.

32:57

What flower would you be?

33:03

You could probably pick one for each season. You got to pick one.

33:05

Oh, I don't know, it wears a sunflower.

33:10

You're eucalyptus. I said I'm eucalyptus.

33:14

Carlos or a dalia. Carlos is also a sunflower.

33:18

I didn't see that he's very bright and happy.

33:22

You love your dalias, but I don't think I'm a dalia.

33:27

I think you're dianthus, why she?

33:30

loves dianthus. I kind of grew out of that.

33:34

Okay, I actually kind of hate dianthus.

33:37

Now they give them a shake. They do.

33:40

I was so tired of them. They had too many of them in the spring, but you're definitely a spring floral person though.

33:48

Yeah, I wouldn't say probably Larkspark.

33:53

Okay, noted, they're tall like you.

33:57

Yeah, for reference, they keep saying I'm tall, I am 5m and I'm 5, too 5, 4.

34:06

And I think 5, 5, I think Maybe.

34:08

Alright, that's all I've got for you this time, kamlee.

34:12

We'll see you again in like 12 weeks, thank you, alright, guys.

34:18

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34:31

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34:45

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