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Welcome back to these flower files Wildly
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Native Flower Farm podcast . This
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week we're going to talk all things . What do
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we do with flowers when we have them ? We
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planted a thousand seeds way back when and we
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had to figure it out . We definitely
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had to figure it out Because it was funny .
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she would walk out and be like , wow , that's pretty
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.
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Wow , yeah
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, I still do that .
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Especially if it's something new where we get that eyeball
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thing that like , oh , what's ?
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that . Yeah , like something random from last
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year that just decided to come back and race
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again and like , oh , I'm going to go cut that Specifically
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for this . Like I feel like
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we do that all the time . I do that
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all the time and it cracks me up , like
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this is perfect for this and I tried
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to stick it in our bridal bouquets
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as much as possible .
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Yeah , I was just telling Liz last week , some of my
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favorite times are when you send me out in the fall
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for like one oddball arrangement that somebody's
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ordered and I just go out with a vase with
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water in it and I get to pick out my favorite
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flowers to put in there and just , oh , that's pretty .
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Okay , I can deliver this .
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Yeah 100% . Those
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are usually the best ones . Well for you guys
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.
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I struggle with those because there's so many
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times where I have the vase and I put it down because I
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want to do something else , and then I turn around
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and I dump the vase .
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Oh yeah , I'm like , whatever I give up , especially
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if the wind is blowing . Yeah , oh
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, there's water out there .
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Yeah , 100% , 100% . I
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don't know . I still like I must pick the bumpy ground
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to put it on . Yeah , I don't
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know , I don't know . Okay
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, so we planted the 1000
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seeds and after we figured out
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the mulch , the black paper
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that we worked so hard to put that black
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the dog stepped on
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it the one day and ripped it and I was like I
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don't like this stuff and you're like I'm done
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, yeah , nothing . And
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then the newspaper always made me feel weird because
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I was like what about the inks ? And if somebody
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wants to eat them ? Like I just struggle
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with that . And
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then that's how we landed with the
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fabric , which I know we've already talked about , but like
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it was a very real moment
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where , okay , we know
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we can grow , we can grow
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and we can grow and we can grow , but
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would we do with it ? And
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I think that's a bigger question we grew some
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flowers , and what do we do with them now
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?
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What are our options ? Where
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can we go with this ? And I think
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right now to where
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, like , we've found a good rhythm with
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what we are doing with them , but it's like we're trying
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to find that full circle moment of dried
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to the seed , back into
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the ground , used fresh , save
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everything , petals and stems
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and all that . I feel like where
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we've got some things in the works
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, which is very exciting , but
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you know , I
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guess the plant circle of life is what we're
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trying to do and not just add to the pile
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of stems and trash
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that sits on the floor .
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Right .
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Like right and how do we
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use all parts of it and how do we look at
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it through a different lens ? I
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mean so , obviously , social
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media , all of the things , parts of
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Instagram and you know , the Cut Flower
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Association and this grower association and
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all of these different things and one
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of the there was a whole big long post
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that I read about . You know , what are some
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greens that people use , and a lot of people
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talked about how they use greens
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of flowers before they even bloom and
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I think that's a miracle .
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That's used very heavily .
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We use a lot of herbs . We use a lot
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of herbs in our stuff because Cosmos
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too .
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I'm not a huge fan of cosmos , if
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you haven't heard before , it's just
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they're beautiful and delicate , but they do not
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last in any sense , unless they're
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sitting in water .
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I want something that's going to be durable because
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, let's face it , by the time they
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get cut in the field and
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depending on how they're processed , and
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what their end thing is .
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They're going to be ready to grow and use goal
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.
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Yes , that is much better , thank you
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, but it depends on what you're
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going to do with that . They're not going to so
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, so let's talk about some
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of the different things that you can do with flowers
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. So you
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can , lizzie , what do you do with flowers ?
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Well from the wedding side , we're making
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bouquets and bud vases
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and cocktail tables and arrangements
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and greenery and hanging
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installations and there's like you name
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it Okay , so pause for
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a second and let's go backwards through
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.
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that bouquet is going to be in and out
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of water .
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Yeah .
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A cocktail vase could be knocked over
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and stood back up . Has the potential
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for some in and out of water .
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Sitting in the sun needs to be strong against
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the wind . Yeah
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, especially here with being on the water 100%
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, 100% .
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Talk about some of your arch pieces and
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things like that . We're using oasis, moss . You
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know there's there's a couple different
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things that we're using , so
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you have to know which flowers are going to still
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drink if their stems are clogged
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with oasis .
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Yeah . Or even if it's hot
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yeah , heat is a huge thing or if it's
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sitting in the van , or if it's direct sun
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. Yeah , that's . It's a lot
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. We're always incredibly thankful when we get our
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archers that are like still in the heat
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but they're like in the shade . Yeah , we're like oh
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okay , thank God still look . Good for pictures , because you
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can tell when they're drooping
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. They're like the hot thing .
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Plus the width of the stem too . Mm-hmm
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, the width of the stem is that
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definitely . You know , a bouquet of
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30 cosmos compared
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to a bouquet of 30 . So
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some of them are the size of thick celery
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. I mean you have to know what
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your end thing is going to be . And if
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you think about that from a
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production standpoint , if
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you're a florist and you're getting
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things shipped in , sometimes
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they come in boxes without water
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, yeah . So some things are shipped wet but
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some things are shipped in without water
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, so you've got to rehydrate and that's a
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whole different level of stress on the plant too
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.
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Yeah , and trying to learn how
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different plants act . Like hydrangeas
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you can stick , like you flip
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them upside down and stick the heads
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in water and they'll perk back up faster
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, like with stock . Like if you smash not
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smash , but like crush their stems a little bit , put them in water
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and their petals will perk
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up a lot faster than just cutting them and sticking
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them in water . Graber's
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are supposed to be cut underwater because of the water intake
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. Like , it's just there's multiple
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.
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like food gangs .
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That's sticky or sappy , like a milkweed or a poppy or
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poppies Like red poppies , yeah , or daffodils
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. So you've got to be careful with daffodils because they're so
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slimy and gross . We have figured
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out you don't have to necessarily
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burn them , but if you put them in a bucket and
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just kind of let them seep into
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the water for a little bit , like you'll be able to tell like
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as soon as you cut them , they're fine . And then
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when you pick them up and it's like slimy
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, and then when they're done , like you you can tell
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when they're done , yeah , and then you can mix them with other
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stuff . But it's still like it's
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a learning process because they they
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all act differently 100% .
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So figuring out how to use them and how
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to not waste some
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of that stuff is really important
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, and what are we allowed to reuse
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?
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Because a lot of the reusing is in like
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, I don't say like top balls , but like bodily
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functions and like senses
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, like eating like edibles or
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having bath soaks or
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I don't know . You
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have to know your flower yeah yeah
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, because there are some that look like they're poisonous , like boxwaf
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, totally 100% , looks like it's from like
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fairy tale . I would not eat that , ever
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, ever , ever ever . There's
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so poisonous , ranunculus like they're
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poisonous , but peonies are edible
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, like to me a bigger flower would seem more
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poisonous than a smaller flower
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, but I guess that's the the
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given . Yet with what's poisonous , I don't know
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it's . It's weird .
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Well in spring flowers . Spring flowers in
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particular . Yeah that if
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you look at the different sections of flowers
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out of the season , there's more
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poisonous in spring but , I , don't know if that's
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an adaptation over the years
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, because they have
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to be poisonous so that they're not eaten , because
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there's some of the first things that are available , I
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don't know . I also a lot of the, totally
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de-railing , but a lot of
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the flowers in the spring have that cut
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, like your larks
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for your dance , or delphinium
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, your Fox . Love all that kind
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of stuff .
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It's like I just look this up and I'm
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like poisonous flowers in the spring , lily
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of the valley yeah , it's poisonous
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and they're so delicate . Yeah , the
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dahlias are poisonous really
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. Yeah , like
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like I guess with some of them , like the .
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See , but they're the same form and function like
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stripes . They look the same as
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a peony .
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Rhododendrons are poisonous um
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Lantana , which is assuming
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because it's it's pokey
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like I would want to eat that anyway .
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So I hate .
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Lantana . Anyway , I'm
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sorry , I hate Lantana . It stinks , it
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pokes you . i've worked with it too much in
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garden centers and it's just like everywhere
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and I I can't handle it , as
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azaleas are poisonous um
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, some irises are poisonous,
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bird of paradise is poisonous , like it's just . I
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don't know . You
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gotta be smart , you gotta know what you're doing .
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This Mm-hmm really inviting yeah
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yeah , so weird to me .
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And some of them , I guess , are more poisonous
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than that , are more concentrated , because
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some of them have like warning , all parts
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of this , but like okay , if
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I can do .
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And I said do you think hibiscus
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is poisonous or not ? What
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would you say ? Why ? I
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know that it's not . No , it's not
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. But like , if you came up
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to me and said , like , like you had a
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dahliah and a hibiscus in one hand or the other
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, which one do you think is poisonous ? I would
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say I would say the hibiscus .
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Yeah , for sure , this is the way that it works . I'll order some .
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all the fact that stuff and they're
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, they're not like I
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wonder if is nigella . What
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is this ? I don't know . Learn
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with us guys .
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So there are charts and all kinds of things
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that we look at . They're
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specific , well , and there's also it's
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interesting . So when you start talking about florals
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that can be used for edibles , because everybody
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wants them up , lizzie has a
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thing they're considered only slightly
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poisonous .
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You should never consume a whole plant . Caution's
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advice , but
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don't allow them to nibble
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like kids . Are dogs like nibble on them . It's kind
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of like a poinsettia , yeah , like
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it's okay , but you're not gonna die
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from it . You're like it'll kind of die .
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Yeah , you know how much of
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a poinsettia you have to eat before like even a cat
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. Do you know how much a cat has ?
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to eat before it dies .
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Like the whole thing . Yeah , everybody's
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like oh the poisonous . It's like you're cat
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or a pearl . Yeah , it probably
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upsets their guts a lot more
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. Yeah .
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And then the leafy flower , I'm
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assuming probably would be poisonous . Yeah
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, that already has like sap on it .
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Like and they're sticky Yup . Yup
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, yup , yup , yup , yup Not for me , so
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okay . So you've got flowers , you know some of them
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are edible , some of them are not , and you're
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trying to figure out . You're standing in this field
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, I'm not speaking from experience
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at all .
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Oh no , I was like this is
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great .
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I thought I was like , I feel like
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Rapunzel , this
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is the best day ever . I never should have done this . Yeah
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, yeah , it's that panic of oh
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my God , I have to do something with them .
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Yeah .
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So trying to figure out . So
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initially I didn't know if we were going to do anything
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with design because it's hidden
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gem of a child over here being
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. I was like nope
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, I just want to do wholesale . So for
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a couple of years I just kind of played with wholesale
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and tried to figure out . You know , I
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feel like there's so many different ways
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that people think flowers
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are processed , so they
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think of them in like large mass fields
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with great pictures of the tulips in
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in , you know , the Dutch and the
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Netherlands , all of the things over
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there . I almost said the Dutch lens
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.
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I heard that going out I was
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like yeah it's great .
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And then you know you think of these great , big
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, huge fields but realistically
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there's other flowers too that you
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can add and mix and change . Okay
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, so you go and you talk to the wholesale
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, or you talk to the florist and say , do
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you want wholesale ? We live in a small town
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so for me it's an hour
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in any direction to get to a big city
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which is a blessing . We can get to them
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. Yeah , but it's a lot of traffic and a lot
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of this was a lot . And then do
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you join the there's a
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local farmer flower network
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thing that you can farm to do , where
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you can list this and do that
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and connect with them , and it's like okay
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. So now I get one person in Wilmington and
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one person in Baltimore news and news flash , that's
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two opposite directions .
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Yeah , I feel like you're like at 95 or
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you get the bridge , yeah
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, like there's just no
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, no balance .
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I was like this is , this is insane .
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Unless you're trying to like hop
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over , got a window to wear
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.
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Yeah , I was like so . So how
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do we break into
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that wholesale ? And then how
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do you know how much to grow ? And then how
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do you have the right quality ? How do you have the right
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quantity ? How do you beat the market
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?
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And if I can grow , everybody can grow it , and
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I mean we have talked about it before . We
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do have a wholesale license
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, Like I don't know
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what it is for the , but for the local guide . We
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cannot grow stock .
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No , that's not true , listen .
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We can grow , yes , we can grow stock , but
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not at a wholesale level , oh , not in
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that quantity . I understand it's
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like straw flower . We
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can grow straw flower in
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every single way possible . Like
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we had one row of
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straw flower in the hoop house , which again was
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a learning curve for us . We had
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one plant . Like we had one
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row , we had multiple plants , but we cut from
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it the entire year , the
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whole year from the beginning of
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like probably April I was going to
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say late March , November and
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it just kept popping up Another
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one , Another one In the fall .
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When the light changed , it got really
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leggy .
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Yeah , it was laggy , really really skinny long . It was like
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I'm coming . It's like I'm
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here , it's
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like you can see me , but
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it was . I mean , if
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we had a whole hoop house of just that
15:30
, we could have straw flower and do
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it that way . But they're not like that
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, you know what I mean ?
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Well , they love , love the heat , Well , and I think we could
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fatten them up if we fed them more and
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watered them more .
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It's like that makes sense . Yeah
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, that makes sense , but , like we , everyone
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says that it's so difficult to grow sweet peas . Sweet
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peas grow like weeds for
15:53
us . If we have them , unless we rip
15:55
them out , they 110% will
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come out .
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Well , the one year that we had them and
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I was like kind of we'll just let them go , but they've receded
16:02
themselves . We put in tea
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posts . I'm
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gonna say five , six feet apart .
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I think they were six feet apart .
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They were six feet apart and we had just regular
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ag trellis netting .
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It buckets oh my
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God .
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But it wasn't just that , it was we
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had moved out into the field . We weren't paying
16:21
as much attention to the stuff . They pulled
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the posts over . Everything fell over
16:25
. I mean , they were over my head
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and not I mean even the photographers love
16:29
it , like they .
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You know , sometimes that's the earliest
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colorful thing that we have , probably
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in like April , like
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the first ones , it's gonna start to
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come up in April . May
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is like , let me
16:46
count , but May is like our
16:48
first , like peak of like , oh , the
16:51
Peonies are coming , like the Buds are starting to pull
16:53
through . And then we go out and be like , okay , it's
16:55
time to keep growing .
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Like that one . Yeah , and the one
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row that we had .
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like you know I think Nicole was
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talking to me about it she , there's this one woman
17:05
, it's a mom , she grows
17:08
Peonies but like rows and rows
17:10
and rows of Peonies . She
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makes thousands
17:14
of dollars off of these Peonies , but then
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it's a it's a triple , yeah , it's a digit thousand . Yeah
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, like , okay . So like hundreds of
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thousands of dollars , and she has it insured
17:23
and everything , because , god forbid , there's a storm that
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comes through or whatever . I don't know where she's exactly located
17:27
, but it's insured for her kids . So
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if she has to , if something
17:32
happens , like it's protected
17:35
. But she makes so much
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money from like a two
17:39
to three month period depending on when they bloom , that
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like that's a thing . And
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the row that we have , how long is that row
17:48
out there ?
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Oh , I bought those
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. I think our second year .
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So it's about half of a full field
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.
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So it's half of a poop house , so it's 50 feet .
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Okay , last year we had over
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probably 1700
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Peanuts from that one row
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and we have three other rows
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growing and it's her first year , so we can be
18:13
gentle and thick .
18:14
It's their first cutting year .
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Yeah , yeah , it's their first bloom , so oh , that's
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exciting .
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Yeah , yeah .
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We are going to have- ? How are we going to cut
18:22
their heads off in the first few years and
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like , I'm sorry , yeah , but I can't imagine
18:26
like this year , because they just keep coming back and we
18:28
take care of them Like the girls take care of them and we
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treat them as they should be and
18:33
they're beautiful . They're the princesses of
18:35
the patch , but most of the time when they're blooming , the amount
18:37
of time where everybody else goes and cuts the field
18:39
I'm cutting Peonies the entire
18:41
time and I mean like fucking
18:44
buckets , buckets of
18:46
Peonies . And what sucks is that
18:48
the white and the light pink that
18:50
have some of the like the bright magenta
18:52
stripes and things like that . They go
18:54
first , but we have other
18:57
than a few like deep dark red ones . I think we have like two
18:59
or three plants of those like really deep red
19:01
ones out there . They fly , but like
19:03
the magenta , super dark . I
19:05
wish they bloom in the fall , but
19:07
sometimes they sit
19:09
in the corner and they sit and
19:11
they sit and they sit until it's time to hang them .
19:13
The color isn't used
19:15
as often for that time of year . We
19:17
took up two weddings this year that wants a
19:20
similar color to those that are just . I'm
19:23
like come on land , just right , yeah
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yeah , I hope that the weather
19:28
pushes a little bit . Well , you know what ? And
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that was another thing that we learned . That
19:33
was that first year we had so
19:35
many of the little Dutch iris .
19:38
Do you ?
19:38
remember we planted them even when the hoop house
19:40
was not where it is now . Yeah Little
19:43
tiny 50 foot hoop house and I was like this is great , I'm
19:45
gonna fill it and I'll never outgrow it . And now I have
19:47
like four of them , but you mean , the
19:51
Dutch iris were all the way in the back and
19:53
they came up , and when they come on
19:55
, they come on , there's no
19:57
slowing them down . So as
19:59
they were coming in , I was like , oh
20:02
, my God , I've got to save you . So we had
20:04
a fridge out in
20:06
our garage and I was like , okay , I'm gonna put them all
20:08
in there . I took everything out , put
20:10
all of the sodas and everything
20:12
else in the cooler .
20:14
Dad came out and he was like Liza , what , the fuck
20:16
, what ?
20:17
the fuck .
20:18
It's just like a sign . It's just fine
20:20
, it's just fine my life . There would
20:22
be like two that would pop open and then the next day
20:24
there would be like $50 million .
20:26
Yeah . So I was like , okay , I'm gonna save these . So
20:28
I put them in the in the regular refrigerator
20:31
, all of the buckets that were towards
20:33
the back froze and the first thing we
20:35
were gonna want to do , and that's when I was like , no , if I'm done , and buying
20:37
a flower cooler .
20:38
Yeah .
20:39
I was like no , it was depressing to say
20:41
at least no , no
20:43
, I was so wetter yeah .
20:46
It was so wetter . So we grow all these flowers and
20:48
we can design with them . We can also
20:50
go to wholesale with them .
20:52
And we do a little bit . We work with
20:54
some local markets where
20:56
it's funny , it's
20:58
interesting to see the dynamics
21:00
and how they change through the season , where
21:03
, when the boaters start to come
21:06
down , the colors start to shift
21:08
.
21:08
Yeah .
21:10
They . There's different demographics and
21:12
different colors , so
21:14
everybody loves bright , bold
21:16
, beautiful and all of that kind of stuff . But
21:18
if you have a couple that are neutral , you have
21:20
a couple one of the
21:22
favorites- of everybody this year that
21:25
they couldn't get enough of was eucalyptus
21:27
and sunflowers . Those bundles
21:29
, just they were the first ones to go . And
21:31
then the bundles of plain eucalyptus , but
21:34
having bright and airy , having
21:36
some of the neutrals , having some color
21:39
specific , that definitely made a
21:41
difference too . Yeah , Definitely .
21:43
Yeah , check , that was interesting .
21:45
Without a doubt , and I definitely think there's
21:48
times where we
21:50
have extras . I mean
21:52
, I can't actually have
21:54
much .
21:56
We get a lot of extras , especially in August , it's
21:58
like , okay , well , and
22:00
that's what we do now .
22:01
We are pretty heavy on our donations
22:03
. So I mean we do a
22:05
lot of donations throughout the year . We
22:07
sponsor a lot of local events . Somebody
22:11
will be celebrating something and you know
22:13
there's there's many times where
22:15
there's educational things . I
22:18
go hell came to us and they were celebrating . I
22:21
think it was their hundred hundred years .
22:23
I think so , and I think we're excited about indoor
22:25
weddings too , because we know that our flowers
22:27
are going to last and we're just saying if
22:29
you work with us in August , you get a lot of
22:31
flowers . Because every once
22:33
in a while we're like well , we have the flowers , we'll
22:35
just fill it in .
22:38
Like you know , throw a little extra . I feel like
22:40
we do that almost across the board
22:42
, yeah .
22:43
And I know that a lot of people come to us and
22:45
like , well , you guys are just too much cheaper
22:47
compared to like people over the bridge . We'll
22:50
think about the process . We're
22:52
not processing buckets
22:55
of hydrangeas that have little tiny
22:58
plastic bags filled with water attached
23:00
with rubber bands on the bottom
23:02
of hydrangeas Cuttings
23:05
yeah , packed in a box , like throwing out
23:07
trash from yeah
23:09
, ecuador , the Netherlands , canada
23:12
, like God only knows where . To California
23:14
yeah , from everywhere . And
23:17
all that time , hours , that it takes
23:19
to process everything we
23:21
don't .
23:22
How sturdy those flowers have to be , and
23:24
that's the other thing that's different for us .
23:26
And what's on your ?
23:26
flowers , I wasn't going to
23:28
go there . Pesticides
23:32
Well , the regulations through
23:34
countries are so different .
23:36
Yeah .
23:37
And flowers aren't regulated the same way
23:39
that food is . But
23:41
I don't know about you , but if something
23:43
smells good , I'm going to smell it . I'm
23:46
a tactile person .
23:47
I'm a hugger .
23:48
I'm a tactile person . I'm always touching
23:50
. That's my like . If I had to guess
23:52
what my superpower was , it's hugs , because
23:55
I'm always like , hey , let me
23:57
hug you . That's why God gave us arms
23:59
. But
24:01
I don't know
24:03
the process of some of the other things . You
24:06
know , are they fumigated ? Yeah , and
24:08
I'm not saying that it's wrong
24:10
, because if you're shipping something in , I don't
24:12
want your disease . You can keep your disease
24:14
in your country .
24:16
And that protects them . Because then what
24:18
are they going to trace it back with ? Like when we went
24:20
and toured in
24:23
a
24:25
wholesale business
24:28
with flowers , I guess , as you explained it , I'm
24:30
sure there was a specific thing whatever
24:33
, but
24:35
there was a person that had a job to look at
24:37
everything that came in to make sure that it all looked good
24:39
, and because some of the workers
24:41
that worked there don't know what flowers
24:43
are supposed to look like , Yaro is not supposed to
24:46
be droopy at all , but
24:48
they're not necessarily going to know
24:50
that .
24:50
No , they're an hourly employee and their job
24:52
is to find code
24:54
1016 yellow yeah
24:56
, with their little finger scanner . I
25:00
mean quality control ? Yeah
25:02
, there has to be there . Well , on
25:04
top of the fact , we're going to harvest and
25:06
use things at a totally different cycle
25:09
of flowering . We want things big
25:12
and bold and lush and in your face If
25:14
you're trying to sell or work with a flower shop , they
25:16
want it super tight because they want it to last . So
25:19
knowing when to pick what your market is
25:22
and how to figure it out
25:24
.
25:24
We're lucky with being able to watch everything on the field
25:26
.
25:27
Yeah by like a lot
25:29
of minutes . Hey , that's
25:31
going to pop tomorrow . Hey , we're going to need that for the
25:33
weekend . Hey , don't touch that . Tie a ribbon
25:35
around that so nobody cuts that . Because we
25:37
like that .
25:38
We want to pull those seeds , like there's
25:40
so many layers to it now , yeah , and
25:43
so we're short , support your local
25:45
flower farmers because , a it's going to be cheaper just
25:47
because of the process and , b you're
25:49
going to get so much more out of your flowers . Yeah , 100%
25:52
, 100% for life . Yeah , we
25:55
care a little bit more because we grew it from seed
25:57
, you know literally .
25:59
Literally , literally , I feel like
26:02
and this sounds crazy
26:04
, but when I first started
26:06
so Joe is super
26:08
into marketing and he
26:11
likes a plan for everything , like
26:13
he's very technical
26:15
. I don't know if it's technical
26:17
or logistics . I'm tight , I'm not sure it's
26:21
both . It's business , that's what it is . It's tactical
26:23
, it's very specific , when
26:27
I more of a jump in hey
26:29
, we'll do it , we'll figure it out , and
26:31
both sides have good
26:33
and bad to it . Did
26:36
I have a marketing plan initially
26:38
? Well , that's why I grew on a
26:40
smallish side to begin with
26:42
, to see what the process was and
26:45
how it worked and all that kind of stuff . But
26:47
I am definitely that person
26:50
who jumps and then checks their parachute
26:52
where Joe is . The person who
26:54
has checked his parachute
26:56
, has checked the emergency
26:58
part of the parachute , packed
27:00
it himself , jumped and then gone is
27:03
still gonna work . I'm
27:05
happy to air going woo . So
27:08
I think there's lots of different
27:10
approaches to it and
27:13
I feel like you have to have a certain level
27:15
of we're
27:18
gonna figure it out as we go if you're gonna be in farming .
27:20
We between snow and
27:22
rain and bugs , and yeah , and the weather
27:24
tells you what you're gonna do, foxes and you
27:26
know , you know .
27:27
You just have to
27:30
be able to know of it . We
27:32
don't like gambling , don't
27:34
we farmer ?
27:36
Yeah .
27:36
Ain't that the truth ?
27:37
Yeah , especially now , because Anything
27:42
can happen . Yeah , for
27:44
sure . Like our winters are not what they
27:46
used to be Like
27:48
at all , and the swings are
27:50
so huge , the swings are just ginormous
27:53
. Yeah , watching everything
27:55
, especially with like weather predictions
27:57
, and trying to read like
27:59
the bugs and the
28:02
flowers , kind of tell you what's happening
28:04
. Yeah , like , if we're like , oh , this time
28:06
last year was ready , and we're like , oh , I guess it's not
28:08
gonna be warm the next two weeks
28:10
, like there's always that , there's like
28:12
that sweet spot , there's like that last , like
28:14
false , like spring , spring
28:17
. We're like , oh no , it's cold . We're
28:20
like we're gonna drink like two days of like
28:22
70 something degrees , maybe like
28:24
high sixties , and then you go
28:26
, oh no , it's 40 . Sorry
28:28
, Testing the water with your toe
28:30
Mm-hmm , not a time yet yeah , can that
28:33
go . Yeah .
28:35
Hey , she's a nope , nope , nope , not at all
28:38
, not at all . So
28:40
I don't know . Somebody says , hey , what are
28:42
you gonna do with them ? If they
28:44
had asked me that when I first started , I
28:47
would kind of gone . I don't know . I'm gonna sell them and
28:49
figure it out . But
28:51
the answer that should
28:53
be said is something along the
28:55
lines of do your market research , you
28:58
know where you can sell them and
29:00
continue to grow and figure
29:03
out what makes sense . And
29:05
we've done that and scaled appropriately
29:08
. Have we stepped ?
29:09
into the wholesale world .
29:12
Not what most people would define wholesale
29:14
.
29:14
Not necessarily .
29:17
Buy the flowers for us to use .
29:18
We have had some florists
29:21
that and we have a couple here and there that we know
29:23
that we they usually ask us like hey , do
29:25
you have peonies ? I need like five
29:28
for a bridal bouquet .
29:30
I think the best compliment we got is
29:33
when other flowers call flower farmers . We
29:35
need the flowers to call me . But if other
29:37
flower farmers call me and say , hey
29:39
, I need that a fana to fill
29:42
out my bouquets this week to have these
29:44
?
29:44
So hey , oh yes , it's
29:47
very convenient . I mean at least we're prepared ,
29:49
yeah .
29:51
Well , there's been times where I call them and be like oh
29:54
.
29:54
I'm hot , I need 30 steps .
29:55
Yeah , so
29:58
yeah , I don't know it's
30:00
, it's there's a lot of different avenues .
30:01
I feel like we've kind of tested and we found our , our
30:04
special spot and now we're just trying to round
30:07
out the circle of what to do
30:09
with them after they're cut For sure
30:11
, Like yeah , how
30:13
to dry them .
30:15
I mean if we've gone through and
30:17
we've used everything that we can and exhausted
30:20
all the options . That's when we start
30:22
drying them . And then there's the
30:24
craft aspect . From there , like
30:27
how do you , how do you extend that season ? And
30:30
we're dealing with a perishable product ? Yeah
30:32
, the moment we cut it , it's dead . So
30:35
how do we sell it while it's I mean like just the
30:37
moment it blooms .
30:39
It's got a life life span .
30:40
It's got a shelf life , like it's
30:43
just it is what it is , absolutely
30:45
so how do you , and then how
30:47
do you , figure out what
30:49
to do with it after ? So
30:52
, when they're dry , they're shelf stable .
30:54
Yeah .
30:56
But what do ?
30:57
you do with them , because they're pretty hanging and some
30:59
of them are not pretty yeah .
31:03
See , and it cracks me up because there's so many times we're
31:05
gonna be like , oh , what's that ? I'm like , dude , that's a weed , yeah
31:07
. And then the Nicole and Lizzy go, You can walk through
31:09
the field and be like , oh , look at that , and
31:12
I'm like it's a weed . They're like no
31:14
, look at the seed , head and the fist , and it's that , and
31:17
I'm like it's a weed .
31:18
Yeah , it withstands
31:20
the heat out of water , so
31:23
we're lucky getting that what we're gonna use
31:25
, yeah .
31:26
If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck , it's probably a duck
31:28
.
31:29
Yeah , I'm like it's
31:31
dead . They're like no , it's dry . I'm like
31:33
it's dead . Yeah , I'm
31:36
like , stop it , it's dry . I'm
31:38
like , okay , okay , tell me . I'm just gonna go back to drawing
31:40
things .
31:41
I think my favorite thing is when the lines in
31:43
here are completely full of stuff to dry
31:45
and people are gonna go , wow
31:47
, yeah , and then our light from
31:50
the actual barn is shaded .
31:52
And then when we take everything off , we're like , wow , we can actually like
31:54
see , it's not just
31:57
like natural light that we're waiting to like bring
31:59
stuff in . Like we have ropes like boat
32:01
rope on the ceiling hooked up with hooks
32:03
to we can all the hang-dry stuff . But we
32:06
have to be careful where we hang-dry the celocia
32:08
because the seeds dropped on the floor .
32:10
We hope they're on the floor . I don't like when they
32:12
drop on my computer keys .
32:13
Yeah .
32:15
Kind of like oh
32:17
these seeds ?
32:18
Yeah , yeah , yeah .
32:19
Yeah , yeah , thank you
32:22
so much . Work with a team who
32:24
sees things through different eyes , so
32:26
what I see is trash . Other
32:28
people see as amazing things that
32:30
they can do stuff with . So when
32:33
somebody says again that rhetorical question of
32:35
hey , you've got flowers , what are you gonna do with them
32:37
? It's a
32:39
world of opportunity . Not
32:41
to sound cliche , but there's so much
32:44
you can do .
32:45
Yeah , pick your people and pick your avenue .
32:49
Know your market people .
32:53
Yeah , jump in big enough
32:55
.
32:55
He's planning .
32:56
I think that'll fail otherwise , so
32:58
you will miss .
32:59
I have a planner . Yeah , I
33:01
was really good this year . I got one
33:03
. It shows me the week . I've got little places
33:06
to take notes . I just keep turning
33:08
the page . I'm gonna
33:10
mark it for the next one . I'll try it
33:12
next week . I try , I try
33:14
, try , try . Put little notes in there Like don't
33:16
forget this .
33:17
It gives me like peace of mind In
33:21
your type . A yeah , I don't
33:23
know what I have .
33:24
X .
33:24
Something yeah .
33:27
I'm tight and I need to boot .
33:30
Yeah .
33:32
I don't know , I don't know , I don't know , but you
33:35
know what Keeps it interesting , so
33:37
cool . Well , you know what I would love
33:39
? I would love if people would comment
33:41
on this episode and tell me what they do with
33:43
their flowers . What are things that you do with
33:45
flowers , or what are some of your traditions
33:48
that you do with flowers that
33:50
maybe not many people know about . That would be
33:52
cool . I'd love to hear what other people
33:54
do . Yeah , let's give us your ideas .
33:55
We'll mark it for you , yeah .
33:59
We love to hear what you guys do , Because a lot of times we
34:01
have people that come in asking for buckets . They're
34:03
like I don't know you can do that . Well , this
34:05
is what we do with that , and we're like I never thought
34:07
about that .
34:07
That's interesting . I love
34:09
it when people walk in . It smells
34:12
so good in here I'm like I don't know , I
34:14
don't smell anything .
34:15
Yeah , it's fine , yeah , pretty much . I'm
34:17
like don't know what you're talking about . Well , this is a menthol from the
34:19
Eucalyptus .
34:21
I cannot smell it . What is burning ?
34:22
your nostrils today . So All
34:25
right guys .
34:26
Yeah , so hit us with your ideas .
34:29
It's just a chocolate cup of milk . Yeah , Because
34:32
she's excited All right
34:34
, guys , you can catch us next week , or
34:36
any week for that matter . We
34:38
have apple podcast now . We'll do .
34:41
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34:44
You can find us on Apple podcast , spotify
34:47
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34:49
us anywhere you get your podcast . I
34:51
think I'll post my favorite . No one popped up . Oh
34:55
, we're official . We
34:57
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35:00
can find us at The Flower Files or
35:02
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35:04
. Please make sure to check that out . There will be
35:06
extra episodes and fun things there , and
35:09
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35:12
at wildlynativeflowerfarm . com .
35:14
And if you go to the link in our Instagram
35:16
, it will show you all of those links in one
35:19
spot , so you don't have to actually go find
35:21
it . I did the work for you , you're welcome .
35:25
She was very excited the other day . She's like I
35:28
think we need a link tree . I
35:30
was like I don't want that . She was
35:32
like I mean you
35:35
used that for like a green . Like what are
35:37
we doing ?
35:38
Nicole knew what I was talking about . And then I put it
35:40
up and I showed you yesterday and you're like
35:42
oh yeah , I
35:48
mean it looks good . I think it looks good
35:50
.
35:50
I think it looks great Now
35:52
that I know what a linked tree is .
35:55
Yeah , All right
35:57
guys .
35:59
Oh yeah , that purple girl , yeah , yeah , nice
36:01
and purple . Go check it out .
36:03
We will catch you next week . I hope you have a
36:05
very week .
36:07
Yeah , we will see you very , very soon . Enjoy
36:10
the snow that has fallen , ground
36:12
that is ruining our lives . Bye
36:14
, bye , bye , bye , bye , bye
36:34
.
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