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I catch up with my friend Paul Procter to talk about the frustrating season we've experienced so far.

We look at a wide range of subjects that cover fishing, his guiding, fly tying, how quickly the fishing seasons now pass and how to make sure we're fit and agile along with us both having partners who fish.

Although Paul has been a guest on the podcast before the conversation moves in some interesting directions and as well as fishing advice you'll get to know Paul a little better.