In episode 4 of The Footy Conversion, (12 year-old) Rudy and Uncle Alan are joined by  Rudy's Blue Bagger cousin Amiel. They catch up on the week that was, including the Pies and Hawks' respective nail-biters. Later in the show, Amiel recounts an unusual encounter with Charlie Curnow's parents, while Rudy drops a bombshell about his sporting plans for 2025.