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Wednesday, April seventeenth. Twenty twenty four.

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I'm a big brown. The Hamas

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attacks in Israel were six months

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ago when they marred the world.

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Now Fox Nation and Benjamin Hall

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bring you the story of October

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Seventh. Through the eyes of those

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who survive the slaughter and that

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captivity, we think of conflict as

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tragedy and sadness and pain and

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horror. But you know for all

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my. Years current conflict. You

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see just as much bravery,

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encourage and kindness and and

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sacrifice. For others, this is the

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and now but going at Fox News

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or just.com. There. Has

1:24

been so much reporting on the Hamas

1:26

attacks against Israelis on October seventh of

1:28

last year, even outside the coverage of

1:31

the continuing war on Hamas, of the

1:33

growing conflict with Iran, the stories of

1:35

the attacks against the Israelis themselves, that

1:38

a music festival and in their homes

1:40

inhumane and barbarous assaults and mutilations and

1:42

murders of pregnant women and children. And

1:45

now here's a chance to learn more

1:47

with a bit more depth than a

1:49

bit more analysis, even reflection. In some

1:52

cases, it's a chance to. Live

1:54

the fried alongside the victims as

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Fox Nation presents a new series

1:58

titled Surviving Hum. It's streaming

2:00

now at Fox Nation. Some of it

2:02

is very difficult to endure as you

2:05

hear in real time people enduring it

2:07

Like a young woman being shot at

2:09

while screaming into her phone with her

2:11

father on the other end It

2:18

has been six months I did

2:20

feel that so many people around the world were

2:22

forgetting what started this Was the hostage

2:24

taking that happened all those people that were taken prisoner and

2:27

that was one of the reasons I wanted to go back

2:29

And tell some of these stories Fox News correspondent

2:31

Benjamin Hall brings you these interviews with

2:33

survivors You might recall Benjamin is a

2:36

survivor of war wounds himself and he'll

2:38

tell us how living with that experience

2:40

and those effects Made for a better

2:43

interview with one survivor also left scarred

2:45

and Benjamin shows you the videos some

2:47

made by victims and survivors Others made

2:50

by the Hamas henchmen themselves most

2:52

people around the world haven't seen them But

2:54

they provide clear evidence as to what and

2:57

who caused this new strife There

2:59

was a reason I wanted to do it in long format. There

3:01

was a reason I wanted to do it on Fox Nation that

3:03

is because You can speak to

3:05

these Reese hostages and you know and I

3:07

spoke to some remarkable people Yeah, who went

3:09

through terrible or deals and I'll talk about

3:12

those in a little bit But it's

3:14

not about what they went through. It's

3:16

about how it has changed their lives

3:18

How does change the country how does

3:20

change the future of Israel when

3:22

it comes to the relationship with Palestine? I

3:25

just felt that it really is something you need to

3:27

understand all the levels of and so I want to

3:29

give it a longer format piece and I

3:31

just think for once it's possible. We wanted to have them

3:34

tell their stories and so that's what the special is about

3:37

let's talk about the Focuses

3:39

that you'll make it's more than one

3:41

episode obviously it is a streaming series

3:43

and so Tell

3:46

us about what what we're gonna be able to

3:48

see if we sit down to watch this well

3:50

look the first one I will admit not

3:53

necessarily easy watching some of them Yeah, we go

3:55

right into what happened that day and we have

3:57

you know, we don't like to use Hamas footage

4:00

air often of that attacks. But

4:02

we decided at Fox that we

4:04

would use some videos from them

4:06

to show what happened. And so it's

4:08

very powerful on that level. And we were very careful about

4:11

what we would use. But the

4:13

first episode is a 21 year old

4:15

called Maya. And she was

4:17

taken from the Nova music festival,

4:19

someone who one second was dancing,

4:21

dancing for peace. And

4:24

out of nowhere, she's surrounded by Hamas

4:26

terrorists. She is shot in both legs.

4:29

One of her foot is practically removed.

4:32

And she is taken into

4:34

Gaza. And she tells the story

4:36

of, you know, imagine the 180 that happens

4:39

in your life when one second you are

4:41

dancing and the next you are taken, she

4:43

was paraded inside Gaza so injured. And

4:46

the residents of Gaza were cheering

4:48

as they lifted her head up

4:50

among middle of these crowds. And

4:52

she is trying to hang on. And

4:56

she was then taken down to the tunnels

4:58

under Gaza. And she couldn't walk. At

5:00

one point, she said that one of the Hamas terrorists grabbed

5:02

her and he put a gun to her head. And

5:05

she knew it was walk on the

5:07

one foot or die. So

5:10

that's how this story begins. She was taken alongside

5:12

both her brother and her best friend, they were

5:14

all inside and she was held 53 days.

5:17

And she was eventually released because she was injured

5:19

in the first prisoner swap. But again,

5:21

one of the reasons that the special is so

5:23

important is because it's hearing what she thought during

5:25

the attack. And she was saying, and I will

5:27

say it's an aside, it's much the same thoughts

5:29

that I had when I was attacked in Ukraine,

5:31

when I was lying there, and I thought it

5:34

was gone. She said, I

5:36

knew I was going to survive. I knew I was going

5:38

to do whatever I had to do. And it was

5:40

terrifying, she said, but I knew I was going to

5:43

find a way home and I was going to stay

5:45

strong. And so the story we tell is about her,

5:47

how she thought through it, how she stayed strong, how

5:50

she told herself to put the pain aside,

5:53

how when she was being held hostage

5:55

by both a Doctor, then

5:57

a teacher inside Gaza who were torturing

5:59

her. Have you tried

6:01

gets much information from them as possible. He

6:03

knew that to get over good relationship to

6:06

get a bit more food she had to

6:08

build these bombs. So to remarkable look at

6:10

this twenty one year old and house managed

6:12

to get to this horrible captivity is eventually

6:15

she was released and that I'm talking about

6:17

how that recovery was going and we sat

6:19

opposite each other inside hospitals soon after. Another

6:23

operation and we had very similar injuries.

6:25

You know it's yeah. yeah. And.

6:27

So we've been sitting there talking about the

6:29

injuries and me saying to her this is

6:31

how i got through it and has saying

6:33

to me that given me a lot of

6:35

support to get to the minds of it

6:37

wasn't just reporting those real connection the we

6:39

had as well as i think is also

6:42

makes this makes a special message being tortured

6:44

by a physician. It's

6:46

such a bizarre kind of, you know,

6:48

mirror universe type of thing to think

6:50

of because. That's. Not what physicians

6:52

are supposed to do. even when

6:55

it's a physician from the quote

6:57

unquote. other side. You. Know that

6:59

you're at as is yeah says the sun and

7:01

a teacher and that's one of the point she

7:03

was making his. she used to think that either

7:06

inside dollars as. That. There were

7:08

small bad group of Hamas terrorists the

7:10

she came on she said to me

7:12

when the doctor and the teachers were

7:14

torturing me what does that say about

7:16

life and people overall inside dogs and

7:19

so was raised in a. Sad.

7:21

To hear them. And. This young woman

7:23

maya see. His. His his

7:25

Israeli sees I'm going to assume Jewish,

7:27

but maybe not he associates She's Jewish

7:30

and speak perfect English, but you know,

7:32

She's. Like one of us she's like a

7:34

friend. See that people are I grew up

7:36

with. You know that that's what makes is

7:38

really powerful as well of them know she

7:40

talks about her life and her life is

7:42

just like all lies growing up and said

7:44

terrify what happens up the series will Gabi

7:46

we talk to more than just Maya. You.

7:49

Do take a tour of Kibbutz

7:51

Nero's you know I I think

7:53

prior to October. The seventh,

7:55

maybe people around the world heard the

7:57

word "kibbutz", they probably didn't really, you

7:59

know, too much about what it. Or.

8:02

What? These were specifically in the South

8:04

of Israel. These were not just you

8:06

know neighborhoods that propped up. These were

8:08

people. Living. Who chose to

8:10

live very close to Gaza? In

8:13

hopes of forging piece of the they

8:15

were is that there were a lot

8:17

of these communities that were there specifically

8:19

the try to be good neighbors to

8:21

the Palestinians in Gaza. Tell. us

8:23

about walking through near was. Absolutely

8:26

these. These kibbutz as they were. they

8:29

were remarkable. They were incredible. Communities in

8:31

the people who live there called the

8:33

Pieces of haven't You to Full Flours

8:36

ever worked together. They were these communities

8:38

where people were raised together small, some

8:40

of them. One of the the second

8:43

episode is in Narrows and a quarter

8:45

of all three hundred fifty people were

8:47

killed or captured. A quarter of the

8:50

whole community. and you walk and door

8:52

to door to door and they are

8:54

totally demolished and the blood. Stain

8:56

still inside them and we spoke

8:58

to number people inside narrows one

9:01

lady and her daughter who managed

9:03

to survive. They're inside, they're safe

9:05

from the minister locket with or

9:07

the vacuum cleaner because they don't

9:09

normally lock their doors and see.

9:11

How that against the tide strings used on

9:13

the what's up shock to her other neighbors

9:15

and they managed to find a way to

9:17

lock it That she said goodbye to her

9:19

daughter and held her daughter in her arms.

9:21

And against we got some credible mode where

9:23

she says the last words as she said

9:25

her daughter would just. we've had a wonderful

9:28

life together. love you so much and we're

9:30

going to die together today. It's gonna be

9:32

okay and to hear those words. how is

9:34

the mother and both in the daughter remarkable

9:36

But this is a lady who spent years

9:38

drive into the dogs and border and driving

9:40

goals and see were injured to. Israeli hospitals

9:42

day in day out. She was

9:44

doing this whenever she could. And

9:47

she said I spent years.

9:49

Trying to build of a poor so we

9:51

could have a peaceful coexistence. And.

9:54

She ends up saying i no longer

9:56

think that is possible to terror that

9:58

we saw. And two doors

10:01

down, the entire family, the three children,

10:03

the ages of my children, six and

10:05

four were all killed, the parents

10:08

were killed. And this woman says, after

10:10

what's happened to me and my neighbors, I

10:12

don't think that exists anymore. And my

10:14

idea, my dream of peace, our whole

10:17

kibbutz's dream of peace is gone. And

10:19

it just shows you, hey,

10:22

what is done to them personally, but also what

10:24

it's done to the future of relations between

10:27

Gaza and Israel. Fox News

10:29

correspondent Benjamin Hall is our guest and

10:31

we're discussing his new series, a very

10:33

personal and close look at the horrors

10:36

of the Hamas attacks against Israelis on

10:38

October 7th. The series

10:40

is called Surviving Hamas and it is

10:42

streaming now on Fox Nation at foxnation.com

10:44

or on its mobile apps. We'll

10:46

have more straight ahead. I

10:49

mean, there's a whole other level

10:51

of tragic associated with this because,

10:54

and again, I don't expect most

10:56

of the world to know intimately the

10:58

daily lives of Israelis and

11:00

what they go through. But

11:03

so many of them have been committed

11:05

to finding some kind of peace, some

11:07

kind of way to live alongside the

11:09

Palestinians, alongside other Arab neighbors.

11:12

And as in these kibbutz's, which were

11:14

in a very dangerous spot to be

11:16

in, they were really up against the

11:18

wall with Gaza. That

11:20

hope of those dreams are, I think, shattered

11:22

for so many. It's a whole other level

11:25

of sad, I think, that doesn't get talked

11:27

about. Yeah, absolutely. Look, we

11:29

have to look at what the future holds. First

11:31

of all, do these kibbutz's ever get rebuilt? And

11:33

most people, they can't see how they can go

11:35

back and build homes on these places again. But

11:37

other people say, we mustn't

11:39

let this stop us. We must rebuild. We

11:41

must show that we can't be beaten and

11:44

defeated. But I feel many of

11:46

them will just become memorials to what happened that

11:48

day. And

11:51

talking on political and regional levels, and

11:54

many of them say this, if Hamas hadn't spent

11:56

every dollar they had been given over the last

11:58

20 years on building tunnels and and

12:00

other weapons, then Gaza would

12:03

have been so much more

12:05

prosperous and free and relationship could have built.

12:07

But that's what Gaza had become and that's

12:09

why they don't many people don't feel that can happen

12:12

again. They know that that's

12:14

the direction that the group wants to take

12:16

Gaza in. And so people have lost faith

12:18

that they're going to build something positive in

12:20

there. And they were being given so much

12:22

money, obviously by Iran, but I

12:24

mean by Qataris, even by the Israeli government,

12:26

they're being the UN. Yeah, of course. And

12:28

you must buy the UN, of course. And

12:30

so people have just said, have

12:32

we not learned our lesson? I mean, can we

12:34

just go back to a period where we

12:36

continue giving them, you know, giving them

12:39

funds and allowing them to build their own society? And

12:41

if we don't know what will happen in the coming

12:44

weeks and months or years, but that's the big question

12:46

right now, how do they rebuild it? And one aside,

12:48

the Israeli government is saying is we cannot stop the

12:50

war in Gaza until we go into Rafa because we

12:52

can't leave a quarter of all Hamas there because we

12:54

know they will take it over again. And we end

12:56

up at the starting point again. But

12:58

the big problem is, if you go into Rafa,

13:01

the hopes of getting back any hostages also seems

13:03

to be gone. And the big debate is, are

13:05

we going to defeat Hamas or is it a

13:07

priority to get our hostages back? And

13:09

most people sadly think you cannot do both. Well,

13:12

that is the big conundrum. And

13:14

certainly the world has had a bit of a

13:16

reckoning and a lot of proof being laid before

13:19

them of what Hamas is and how brutal they

13:21

are. It's never been a secret.

13:23

I think just people have either

13:25

been naive or they've been turning blind eyes for

13:28

the better part of 20 years. But

13:31

you mentioned earlier that you decided to

13:33

include some of the footage from the

13:36

Hamas cameras on October 7th. As

13:39

someone who's had to go through grotesque

13:41

materials and decide what's fit to

13:43

be used in your reporting, it's

13:46

a tough decision. You have to expose yourself to all

13:48

of it to find out what you shouldn't expose other

13:50

people to. You've seen many

13:52

horrible things in your career. Unfortunately,

13:55

you've endured them. You've happily survived

13:58

them. What

14:00

are some of the things you looked at that you said, we

14:03

can't actually show this? Or what's

14:05

it like going through all those videos? Well,

14:08

we kept all the graphic videos out

14:10

of it. You don't see the murder

14:12

or the bloodshed, but we did want

14:14

to show how they entered,

14:17

how they got in, how they're moving around,

14:19

and the kinds of people who were there.

14:21

So for example, it's not

14:23

just core Hamas fighters.

14:26

You see hundreds and hundreds of normal Gazans coming in.

14:28

Some of them are taking Israelis as well. And

14:31

it really paints a picture that this

14:34

was so many different people. Almost every

14:36

demographic inside Gaza were inside Israel grabbing

14:38

people. You know, there was

14:40

a video that many people saw that the

14:43

Israeli government were showing people about the worst

14:45

images, the worst video from Hamas video. I

14:47

actually chose not to see that. I've

14:50

spent more than

14:52

15 years covering conflict. I've seen it all up

14:54

close. I've sadly had to watch a

14:56

lot of it in person across the

14:58

world in wars. And

15:00

it happened to me in 2022. And actually,

15:03

having spoken to a number of colleagues

15:05

who have sat through that horrifying video,

15:08

I said, I actually can't anymore. I feel like

15:10

I've turned. And so I

15:13

was also frankly a bit concerned about what it might, about

15:15

the effect it could have on me. I

15:17

feel as a biver that I didn't

15:20

want to go back to those moments. You

15:22

have to know your limit. You have to know your limit on that. There's

15:25

a spiritual darkening that will happen if you

15:27

look at this stuff too much. Even though

15:29

it's your job and you're a professional, at some

15:31

point you have to remember, I'm human

15:33

too. You're human too. I

15:36

can't do this. It's okay to do that. That's

15:38

right. And look, many of our colleagues,

15:40

your colleagues, my colleagues, they all watched us. And they're

15:42

people that I trust implicitly. So I knew it was

15:44

out there. But I believe every bit of it. So

15:47

yes, that's something which we thought carefully

15:49

about. We thought about the videos that we were going

15:51

to use inside the special. And

15:54

I watched the ones that we were

15:56

considering using. And then we picked our ones. So

15:58

how many episodes will there be? and

16:00

what are some of the things that are coming up? Well,

16:03

there are two that you can watch at the

16:05

moment that have come out and we are going

16:07

to be putting together another couple. The sad thing

16:10

is there are just so many different stories to

16:12

tell. And look, there are

16:14

stories of horror, but there are stories of

16:16

real resilience. And I've always

16:18

found it amazing about conflict whenever I've covered

16:20

conflict is that we think of conflict

16:23

as tragedy and sadness and

16:25

pain and horror, but for

16:27

all my years of covering conflict, you

16:29

see just as much bravery and courage

16:32

and kindness and

16:35

sacrifice for others. And that's something that I picked

16:37

that I like to paint as well. Some

16:40

of the people in Israel and in those

16:42

kibbutzas and in the music festival did remarkable

16:44

things to help and save others. And so that's

16:46

an angle we want to look at as well.

16:48

So there will be more coming out as

16:51

well. And it's honestly a

16:53

pleasure and an honor to be telling these

16:55

stories. Well, the series is called Surviving Hamas.

16:57

It is an exclusive to Fox Nation. I

17:00

suggest everyone go and sign up for it.

17:02

There's a free trial and special discounts, I

17:04

believe, for our first responders, our military and

17:06

our veterans. So we encourage you to check

17:08

out not just this, but all the programming.

17:10

Benjamin Hall, thank you so much for being

17:13

with us on the Fox News Rundown Evening

17:15

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17:17

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