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Dave Anthony. Today, the war

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in Gaza. From Israel's

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perspective, as some

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at the UN call what's

0:48

happening a humanitarian catastrophe, calling

0:50

for another ceasefire. The

0:52

Palestinian ambassador is blaming Israeli

0:54

atrocities for killing 17,000 people

0:58

and displacing nearly two million civilians

1:00

from their homes in Gaza. You

1:03

know, last Thursday marked

1:05

two months since the Hamas

1:07

terror attack started this war.

1:10

Militants went across the border and

1:13

murdered 1,200 Israeli civilians,

1:15

taking another 250 hostage.

1:18

Now, some were set free in that week-long

1:20

ceasefire last month, but more than 100

1:22

are still held captive. And we talked

1:24

about all that with Tal

1:27

Heinrich, spokesperson for Israeli

1:29

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. But the

1:31

conversation we had in New York

1:33

was too long for the regular

1:36

rundown. So here we

1:38

are this weekend, letting you hear all of it. And

1:41

we thank you for joining us. And as

1:43

always, we invite you to come back, even

1:45

subscribe. You know, we have something new

1:47

for you in the rundown every day,

1:49

twice during the week. And

1:52

now, Tal Heinrich on the

1:54

Fox News Rundown Extra. Joining

2:01

us on the Fox News rundown is

2:03

Tal Heinrich. She is spokesperson for Israeli

2:05

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, as now

2:08

we are two months into Israel's

2:10

war against Hamas in Gaza. Tal,

2:12

thanks very much for joining us. My pleasure to be here

2:15

today. It is two

2:17

months now of war, two

2:19

months since Hamas started

2:21

this, crossing the border with a

2:24

terror attack. It's

2:26

hard to believe, right? I mean, it's gone on this long

2:28

so far. I mean, two months, it's

2:30

like a blur probably in some ways. So

2:33

in one sense, two months seems like

2:36

a lot. So much has changed, you

2:38

know, in the country. Israel

2:40

is not the same. I was there for 35

2:43

days and then I came here to New York. And

2:46

I can tell you that everyone

2:48

changed their views, their,

2:50

you know, sometimes politics,

2:54

sometimes their ideologies. No

2:57

one is the same. Everyone knows someone in

2:59

the country who was killed, who was injured,

3:02

who was fighting in the front lines. Everyone

3:04

is mobilized one way or another as

3:06

part of the national effort. And

3:10

at the same time, two months,

3:14

it's again, there's the operation going on

3:16

in Gaza right now. We

3:18

have achieved a lot on the

3:20

ground in terms of eliminating Hamas

3:22

commanders and terror infrastructure, but

3:24

we're not there yet. We haven't

3:27

completed the mission. Well, you may

3:29

be a long ways. The Washington Post had a

3:31

thing where you may have killed 5,000 Hamas fighters,

3:33

but they might have 25,000 more and they have

3:35

all their tunnels still. And

3:38

it's going to take months

3:40

more maybe. Again,

3:42

we don't know. We have set goals

3:45

for this operation to eliminate the Hamas

3:47

terrorist regime in Gaza, to make sure

3:49

that Gaza, this territory will never pose

3:52

a terrorist threat to us again. We

3:54

cannot live next to this terror enclave.

3:56

We have done so for 16 years.

4:00

And just in the past eight weeks,

4:02

we had over 12,000 rockets

4:04

raining on our communities on

4:07

top of the October 7th massacre, which led

4:09

to the butchering

4:11

and vaping, beheading and whatnot of

4:14

1200 Israelis. And

4:18

we also said that we want to

4:20

bring back all hostages home. Now these

4:22

two goals go hand in hand because

4:24

Hamas only responds to pressure. Yeah,

4:26

there are still 138, is that correct? Assad,

4:30

did you believe? Yes. But you got

4:32

about 100 out, right? In that week

4:34

long ceasefire. What have you

4:36

learned from those who were set free? So

4:41

first we want to make sure that we

4:43

can assure these people that they're safe now,

4:46

the children that came back. And as I said,

4:48

right now, how can we tell them, well Hamas

4:50

will never kidnap you again. They will

4:52

never fire at your communities

4:54

again. We're not there yet. But

4:57

we are also hearing testimonies

4:59

from them. And I think,

5:01

again, unfortunately, one of the most important things is

5:03

that, as you said, we have 138 people who

5:08

are still being held hostage in Gaza. But some,

5:11

as we know from hostages who

5:13

were released or are no longer

5:16

alive, the IDF

5:18

has informed six families. After

5:20

we heard testimonies of some people

5:22

who were there and

5:24

informed the families. So that is-

5:27

Were they mistreated? Were they malnourished?

5:31

Physical torture, mental torture? All

5:34

of the above. All of the above. We're

5:37

talking about children who are being held

5:40

in dungeons with

5:42

no sunlight, no food, nobody

5:45

to hug them. Some of

5:47

them, their parents, their siblings

5:49

were murdered. We have hostages who

5:51

came back as part

5:53

of the outline that was agreed

5:56

upon and discovered that their loved ones

5:58

are dead or were murdered. kidnapped

6:02

and again some of the families of

6:04

the children say that they

6:08

talk to media they talk to us so we

6:10

know from testimonies that for example Hamas used to

6:12

beat up children they made them watch some of

6:14

the atrocities in a video when

6:17

when somebody cried they beat them

6:19

up women described that they

6:21

had to sleep on plastic chairs not

6:24

sleep but they

6:27

separated family members inhumane

6:31

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7:04

as far as the day October 7

7:06

you referenced atrocities there

7:09

have been a lot of allegations that

7:11

women were raped in this Hamas attack

7:14

and there have been people angry

7:17

that women's groups have not done

7:19

more condemning this you

7:21

held a session at the UN earlier

7:23

this week are you

7:26

making progress and getting people

7:28

to at least acknowledge well

7:30

thanks to this session that the Israeli UN

7:33

mission hosted on Monday I

7:36

think we are getting some awareness but

7:38

the fact that we had to hold

7:40

this event for these atrocities to be

7:43

acknowledged that's really it's baffling and

7:46

in my opening statement there I said

7:48

that these women some of them were

7:50

murdered two times first time

7:52

when Hamas terrorists raped them second time

7:54

when they put a bullet in them

7:57

now we have one testimony according to

7:59

which this simultaneously in at

8:01

least one case. That is

8:03

insanity. And now we felt

8:06

as if they were being

8:08

murdered for the third time by silence

8:10

and neglect. So that's why we

8:13

held this event that it was so powerful.

8:15

And I can tell you that I had

8:18

two packs of Kleenex tissues with me.

8:20

And I ran out of them because

8:22

people asked me to pass them around.

8:24

It was unbearable to listen

8:26

to some of the first responders describing

8:28

how they handled the corpses, what they

8:31

looked like, you

8:33

know, broken pelvises, broken bones,

8:35

how their sensitive parts

8:37

were mutilated, cut off breasts,

8:40

how they played with... It's

8:42

hard to listen to. It's hard to

8:45

listen. And the

8:47

fact that, you know, the same crowd

8:49

that chanted, Believe All Women

8:52

and, you know, where

8:54

are they now? That's why we

8:56

have this hashtag going viral now. Me too,

8:58

unless you're a Jew. So I see it.

9:02

There are different tiers of hypocrisy at

9:04

play here. You have the deniers

9:07

or, well, where's the evidence?

9:10

Well, these women are dead and we're showing

9:12

you the evidence. I mean,

9:14

you have videos from October 7, but people have claimed

9:16

some of those are fake. But we also have,

9:19

you know, we have people who were

9:21

there not only handling the bodies, but

9:23

survivors of that festival, the music festival

9:25

in the South. And we showed them

9:27

on record describing exactly

9:29

what they saw was happening to

9:31

women. Now, we also have Hamas

9:33

terrorists who were arrested

9:36

in Israel. And we have

9:38

excerpts from their interrogations telling

9:40

the Israeli security agents that

9:43

that was intentional. It wasn't

9:45

a bug. It was a feature

9:47

of their plan for October 7. Well,

9:50

let's talk about that plan. The New

9:53

York Times had a story that said

9:55

that Israeli intelligence had learned

10:00

of a Hamas plan

10:02

even as far back as a year ago,

10:04

detailing some of the things that ended up happening on

10:06

October 7th. Why

10:09

was that not given more

10:11

credibility? So, Dave,

10:13

we are, as you know, a democratic

10:15

country. We have conducted thorough inquiries in

10:17

the past, and October 7th was

10:19

a failure, a massive

10:22

failure on our end, and it

10:24

will be investigated. As we

10:26

go, we are investigating things because we

10:29

need to draw lessons as we

10:31

operate in Gaza right now. This can

10:33

never happen again, but right now, we

10:37

are really focused on the war

10:39

effort because we

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Gaza, there have been about

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2 million Palestinian civilians displaced, some who

11:20

fled their homes in the north when

11:22

the war started, went to the south,

11:24

and they're displaced again because you're focused

11:26

on a different area going after Hamas

11:29

targets. One of the

11:31

UNICEF officials said

11:33

that the safe zones that have been supposedly

11:35

set up aren't even worth their names. No

11:37

shelter, no water, no facilities, and

11:40

of course, there are 16,000 Palestinians who've been

11:43

killed according to the Hamas-run health ministry,

11:46

and 5,000 of them are children, which

11:48

is leading a lot of these protesters

11:50

that you see across in college campuses

11:52

to say that there is a genocide

11:54

going on, that you're going after Palestinians.

11:58

That has to be hard. I mean, there really is. humanitarian

12:00

suffering there? There is

12:02

humanitarian suffering there and all of that

12:05

is Hamas is doing. If it

12:07

wasn't for Hamas's atrocities, all

12:09

of the Israelis and Palestinians

12:12

who were killed, who

12:14

suffered for the past

12:16

two months, would

12:19

have still been safe and alive

12:21

today. But this is Hamas is doing.

12:24

It's a terrible situation that they

12:26

dragged us into Israelis and Palestinian

12:28

civilians alike. But Israel is doing

12:30

its utmost efforts to safeguard

12:32

the civilian population of Gaza.

12:35

We announced ahead of time, we've

12:38

been urging the civilians in every

12:41

possible way to evacuate from certain areas,

12:43

including in the north by the way,

12:45

where we're still operating. Just right now,

12:48

over the past 24 hours, where

12:50

we eliminated I think another 250 Hamas

12:53

targets, but also in the north

12:55

we found a huge cache, a

12:58

massive one, of weapons with hundreds

13:00

of missiles, rocket launchers, RPGs and

13:02

whatnot, close to a clinic

13:04

and close to a school. Because this is

13:07

how they operate. They know that Israel does

13:09

not want to target to, you know,

13:11

we don't want to see civilians caught in the

13:13

crossfire whatsoever. But so that's what

13:16

they do. Now, have you seen the map,

13:18

the evacuation zone map that the IDF published

13:20

ahead of the next stage of the operation

13:22

in the south? I have not. So

13:24

it's a, it's a map

13:26

of the Gaza Strip. Right. And it

13:29

divides it into small, small zones, pockets,

13:31

and each one is numbered. We

13:33

tell the civilians in different ways,

13:36

leaflets, phone calls, media, social media,

13:38

where exactly which zone, where exactly is that

13:40

what he's talking about, though? He doesn't think

13:42

these zones are worth anything. If

13:45

you listen to us, it can

13:47

save your life. If you're in Gaza

13:49

right now, Hamas wants them to stay

13:51

put. That's the problem. They

13:53

should listen to what we say. It's

13:55

really important. We don't want to they

13:57

try. They're

14:00

probably hearing what Hamas is saying about you,

14:03

and they see that their home's gone,

14:05

and they see there's not much food

14:07

and water. They're going

14:09

to hate you. So a few

14:12

things to unpack here. First, many

14:14

Palestinians, more than a million.

14:19

Most of them evacuated. Most

14:21

of them evacuated. So I mean,

14:23

they're voting with their feet. And

14:27

as for who they hate right now, maybe

14:29

they don't have love for Israel,

14:32

but I guarantee that once Hamas

14:34

is eliminated, you will start hearing

14:36

more and more voices. We're already

14:38

hearing these voices coming out strongly

14:40

against Hamas and what they did

14:42

and how they dragged the region into

14:44

the situation right now. And

14:47

I hope that once they're gone,

14:49

these terrorists, we will start to

14:52

work with more pragmatic voices on

14:54

the Palestinian side that want to

14:57

move these regions forward, not take

14:59

us back. Yeah, what

15:01

is the future if

15:03

you are able to do what you want, get

15:06

the hostages out and get rid of

15:08

the Hamas terror organization? Then

15:10

what? How do you live side by side? I

15:12

know the US still wants a Palestinian state. So

15:15

you see, we say the first

15:17

Hamas must be destroyed because we're not in

15:20

it to degrade them, deter them, tear them,

15:22

contain them. We've tried all of that. They

15:24

must be gone. Second Gaza

15:26

must be demilitarized. For a certain

15:28

period of time, Israel will have

15:31

to maintain some security responsibility there

15:33

because- Will you control Gaza or? We don't

15:35

want to occupy Gaza, but it could be

15:37

something similar to what you see in

15:39

the West Bank with some overriding

15:41

security presence because once

15:44

the terrorists are gone, we don't want to

15:46

see resurgence of terrorism. It's

15:48

not something that my nation, the Israeli

15:50

people will tolerate, never again. And then

15:52

the third step, which is a

15:55

long-term goal, and it's a very difficult

15:57

one because as you know, Hamas, it's

15:59

also an ideology. ideology, that you have

16:01

to root out. So the Palestinian

16:03

society, and not only in Gaza, but

16:05

also in the West Bank, has to

16:07

be de-radicalized. Just like,

16:09

you know, after the second world war,

16:12

you didn't see the German society going

16:14

back to Nazism. They

16:17

understood that this is not

16:19

good for them, not good for the world, and

16:22

that it's a sick ideology. So the

16:24

idea that the state of Israel should

16:26

be obliterated, that the future of Palestinians

16:28

in Gaza is not in Gaza, but

16:30

in Tel Aviv, because they are so-called

16:33

refugees until the state of Israel will

16:35

cease to exist, it's

16:37

nuts. You also

16:39

are still getting attacked on

16:41

the north, right, from Hezbollah

16:44

in Lebanon. You have other concerns

16:46

with Iran-backed militants. Can

16:48

you fight on two fronts? Based

16:51

on our history, the answer is yes, and

16:53

the preparedness. We

16:55

don't want to fight on two fronts. We have fought on

16:57

combined fronts in the past, and as you know, in 67,

17:00

48, and we won. That's

17:06

why we're here now, the story of the Jewish people doesn't end

17:08

on October 7, 2023, in

17:12

their ancestral homeland. But

17:14

we certainly hope that Hezbollah does

17:16

not provide us with a cases-belly

17:18

scale attack that will drag the

17:21

region into a full-fledged war in

17:23

the north. So we

17:25

are, we have back and forth with

17:27

them, that's true, and we

17:29

are deterring them, and we will

17:31

act very, very, very decisively if

17:34

they drag us into a war. But,

17:36

you know, who will pay the price for

17:38

it? Because just like Hamas, Hezbollah is using

17:40

the same sick methods, like all of

17:43

Iran's proxies, embed themselves

17:45

in and underneath the civilian population,

17:47

and the people of Lebanon have

17:49

suffered so much in recent years. This

17:52

might take a long time. I

17:54

mean, maybe this year is this

17:56

conflict or no? Middle

18:00

East will remain the Middle East. But

18:02

I think that once we send

18:04

such a decisive, unequivocal

18:07

message against Hamas with

18:09

our actions on the ground and we

18:11

root them out, I think

18:13

this will resonate across the region. And

18:16

also, different players understand that what

18:18

Israel is doing right now against

18:21

Hamas is actually, players

18:23

in the region understand that it's actually benefiting

18:25

them as well. Maybe they don't say it

18:28

openly and out loud, but we

18:31

know that they understand and we're

18:33

getting different messages. Kyle

18:35

Heinrich, spokesperson for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

18:38

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18:40

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