OK, joking aside – this episode, it’s well worth skipping the intro, even though we discuss our benevolent and beloved sponsors Optimove and Clarion Gaming. Jon talks absolute waffle, even going into a race he once organised, and a wedding fayre (that’s how they spell it, really), and bigging up his own credentials to run ICE as a result. Fintan is not convinced [0:00 – 37:37].

Then they’re joined by the lovely and knowledgable Frank Op de Woerd of www.CasinoNieuws.nl – basically if Frank doesn’t know it about the Netherlands industry, it’s not worth knowing. The conversation covers various gambling industry topics in the Netherlands, kicking off with the return of Betsson to the Dutch market and the history of their involvement. The discussion then moves on to the court case involving Entain and BetCity, where undisclosed investigations and fines are causing legal issues. The conversation also touches on the advertising restrictions for individuals under 24 and the challenges faced by affiliates. Finally, there is a discussion on societal polarity and the role of faith in shaping people's beliefs and ideologies. The conversation explores the demonization of others, negative prospects for the future, the importance of faith, creating a cause for the disenfranchised, the appeal of Trump, the role of dark money, dysfunctional government and corporate influence, the historical angle of voting, and the choice between Biden and Trump. Yeah, we go all over the place. We finish up with a discussion about the upcoming Dutch Online Casino Awards [37:38 – 1:26:51].

It's another winner! Except for Jon droning on in the intro.

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