In this episode, Fintan and Jon discuss the concept of taking a sabbatical (which Fintan is doing) and the challenges of burnout in the workplace (which Jon has done), and getting bad references. They also share personal stories of job difficulties and the importance of prioritizing social connections. The conversation then shifts to the upcoming ICE conference and our plans for the event [0:00 – 28:54].

Then we meet the fabulously bearded Lorand Minyo, founder and chairman of the Neveli Foundation, which aims to make a positive impact in the world by focusing on philanthropy, advisory services, and impact investing. Laurent explains the three tracks of the foundation and how they work together to achieve their goals. He also emphasizes the importance of teaching children about AI and the need to address biases in AI systems. Laurent shares the foundation's goals for 2024 and encourages listeners to spread the message and do good in their own lives [28:55 – 1:14:29].