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Alright, alright, alright. Good morning

0:09

everybody. We are live this

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morning. I'm in Kaitan. Sipiwet

0:14

is in Johannesburg. We have

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a whole show for you. Are you ready to

0:18

go this morning? How are you doing, Sipiwet? I

0:21

am good. How are you, Gareth? I'm

0:23

good. I am done

0:26

here. We've got lots of meetings today and

0:28

all kinds of work stuff. And then I'm

0:30

going to see some people and coincidentally my

0:32

brother and sister and Nour down here as

0:34

well. So I'm going to surprise them and

0:36

say how's it too. That

0:38

is nice. I must say your

0:40

view looks absolutely gorgeous. It's breathtaking.

0:44

It's not fake. So that's good. I

0:47

have to admit that is a very, I'll be

0:49

very happy looking at you today, Gareth. And I'm

0:51

not smiling at you. I

0:54

know. Don't worry. I mean, that wouldn't be a

0:56

change to our normal situation, but that's all good.

1:00

What do you got planned for the weekend? Oh,

1:02

I got errands to run. I'm such an

1:04

adult. There's like some renovations happening in the

1:06

room outside. I have to buy paint, I

1:08

have to make sure the guy arrives and

1:10

then... Fun

1:13

times. Renovations. You know

1:15

that they say, and it's so funny you

1:18

can bring this up because I've

1:20

got to do the roof at some point, right? Now

1:22

the roof is like the most... No,

1:25

it's not like a big thing. I don't have to

1:27

redo the whole roof, but it has to be painted.

1:29

And there's some tiles that we need to check if

1:31

that cracked because you don't want leaks. And

1:34

with the rain that we've had lately, you don't want to take any chances. So

1:36

I've got to do that at some point. And

1:39

you just look at it and you think, oh, this is going to be

1:42

expensive, right? And it will. Oh,

1:45

yes. And you always have to like whatever they

1:47

give you as an estimate that, oh, this is

1:49

how much it's going to cost. Just double it.

1:52

Just go ahead and double it. So I'm

1:54

going to be wearing my

1:56

big girl panties this weekend

1:59

and just... Yeah, having

2:01

to spend money I don't have guys. Well,

2:04

not fun. It's

2:07

like what you said about the

2:11

tires. Remember the tires and what a nightmare

2:13

that was? I'm

2:15

still trying to recover from that. Now I have this. I

2:20

will be taking donations, you know. I'm

2:23

very open to taking donations

2:25

because of the economy. Well,

2:28

exactly. And everybody's aware of this

2:30

and everybody knows about it, but it doesn't exactly

2:32

help. Yeah,

2:36

it doesn't. It's one of those I'm like, I'd

2:38

rather deal with other problems, you know, like maybe being

2:41

in Cape Town, maybe not

2:43

renovations. But

2:45

yeah, that's it. That's the only thing I have planned this weekend.

2:49

But let's talk about a much worse thing. And this is

2:51

something you've got to help me with because I actually didn't

2:53

know anything about this. But

2:55

what is this thing, the soft guy

2:57

era? What is this all about? I

3:00

don't understand this. This is a novel concept. You're

3:03

always coming up and telling me about things that I don't know about. So this is

3:05

one of the examples. Go on. Yes.

3:07

So you know how the ladies for the

3:09

past couple of years have become very vocal

3:11

about how toxic men are for just being

3:14

men, you know. And

3:16

they've even come out with lists to say you can't

3:18

have a milkshake on the first date, you can't order

3:20

a burger, you can't cry, you can't do this, you

3:22

can't do that. And they've shared

3:24

a list with them. A, the list has been very, very long.

3:28

It seems like some of the guys and

3:30

a lot of guys have come together now and

3:32

they basically are calling it the

3:35

soft guy era where now they

3:37

are stating their standards and

3:39

things that women should have before they should

3:41

even consider dating them. And

3:44

I have a list. They've shared a list of

3:47

the soft guy era. Listen,

3:49

I mean, listen, what's good for the goose

3:52

is good for the gander, right? I totally

3:54

understand when women complain that

3:56

the guys that they're meant to

3:58

date these days are rubbish. quality and

4:01

I think I think that goes

4:03

both ways there also a lot of

4:05

really rubbish quality goals so let's

4:08

hear it go on okay so on the list is

4:11

she must drive

4:14

a car from 2020 and

4:16

onwards she must have her

4:18

own apartment have more than five whoa

4:22

what the hell difference does it make

4:26

if the girl has a car from 2020 onwards

4:28

what what guys are putting that in the

4:30

list of requirements why is that important I

4:32

need to understand ladies that have said

4:34

they don't date guys with like if you

4:36

don't drive a BMW then what are you

4:39

doing so it's kind of like it's it

4:41

for Ted where ladies have been very extreme

4:43

in terms of the dating standards and I

4:45

think these are guys just coming back to

4:47

say if you don't have this you should

4:50

take me out on a date but I

4:52

think this risk list is just as ridiculous

4:54

as what some of these ladies have stated

4:56

before in their whole like you

4:59

can't order a milkshake as a matter of fact why would you so

5:01

is it about quality or is it about

5:03

the fact that a car from 2020 onwards isn't gonna

5:06

break down the guy doesn't have to

5:08

help her sort it out you know I think

5:11

right now they're just being spiteful they just

5:13

like trying to make it as different

5:17

as possible you know they're like you gave

5:19

us shit for like being men so we're

5:22

not gonna open the door anymore you should open it

5:24

for me cuz I'm I'm the prize now

5:27

and and the second one is they have to have

5:29

an apartment or house of their own yes

5:34

okay look I'm gonna

5:37

break each one of these down cuz I'm a little

5:39

perplexed okay so when did it

5:41

become about the

5:43

other person's material possessions okay

5:46

we often talk about on this show how you you

5:48

want someone to be able to stand on their own

5:50

two feet you want someone who

5:53

can provide all that stuff's

5:55

important but like the

5:57

only thing that you could say in defense of

5:59

this particular one of like, you've

6:02

got to have your own place. It's

6:07

potentially this idea that you've

6:09

got to have somewhere to have sex. I

6:12

don't have a place so you've got

6:20

to have a place. Basically,

6:22

like that's about it. So with that

6:24

one, I'm not too mad because I'm just like, you

6:27

know, you guys want to learn time and it's not

6:30

really nice trying to figure out are your parents around

6:32

this weekend? Yeah, exactly. Are you home alone in this

6:34

weekend? But don't you think that's also part

6:36

of like growing up is that you have to figure out

6:38

ways of like having your

6:40

fun without waking the

6:42

parents without making a noise? Maybe.

6:45

It's kind of, it's like you have to

6:47

figure out that you never, who

6:50

in their early 20s is

6:52

going to have their own place already. It's

6:55

expensive, man. And aren't the Gen

6:57

Z's, aren't they

6:59

the ones you're complaining like property prices are too

7:01

high, they can't get a place, the rent's too

7:04

high, they can't get a place. So how do

7:06

they expect this? Even

7:09

me, I don't know. I'm just a mess in

7:11

Jackarot. But let's carry on because the next one

7:13

is, well, the next few are quite

7:15

interesting. She'd have more than 5000 in her

7:17

bank account. I

7:20

think this is savings. And then have

7:22

less than 10,000 followers. Less.

7:26

Less than 10,000 followers. So you can't be... So

7:29

people over 10,000 followers are not

7:32

attractive anymore. I guess so.

7:34

They don't want to be part of that influencer life.

7:36

They don't want to have to keep up

7:38

with the connections now. So anything

7:41

under 10,000. I think that's fascinating,

7:43

right? So that's the change that I was

7:45

predicting five years ago,

7:48

is it finally happening and things like this?

7:51

So I think that's going

7:53

to be a thing, but not just for Gen

7:56

Z or for the soft guy

7:58

generation. Oh, I've done it

8:01

already. Like when I meet a guy and I

8:03

have his name and surname, I go Google and

8:05

I search how many followers he has. I even

8:07

search the kind of content he posts because that

8:09

tells me a lot. Like if he's posting a

8:11

lot of lifestyle and like flashy

8:14

stuff, ooh, ooh. I'm just

8:16

like, here's a

8:18

problem. Here's a big problem.

8:21

Because what's become the most

8:23

valuable currency as

8:25

predicted some time ago is privacy. Privacy

8:29

is the most valuable thing, right? I got it. That

8:31

I like. Yes. No

8:33

kidding. And by the way, the whole thing of

8:35

like having savings, you've got to have like five

8:38

grand saved up. Again, who

8:41

talks about that on a first date?

8:45

Like whose business is that, right? Like,

8:48

I don't know you. Imagine I'm on a date

8:50

with you, Gareth. And then the second question in

8:52

our date is, so how much do you have

8:54

saved in your bank account? Because I have 1.5

8:57

million and you should, I would be so turned off.

8:59

I'd be like, you clearly are not trying to get

9:01

to know me. And this is just a business acquisition

9:04

happening right now and you're not for

9:07

me. So I feel very uncomfortable, especially

9:09

talking about finances very early on with someone

9:11

who's not my partner. Or

9:13

I don't know if you've been here for a long time.

9:15

And really what you earn or

9:18

what you've saved is so nobody

9:20

else's business. Yep.

9:22

Because life also happens. There's been people

9:25

that have saved up like 20 million

9:27

and then life happens. And

9:29

you have to dip into the savings before you

9:31

know it. You're just a millionaire, not a billionaire

9:33

anymore. Right. Yes.

9:38

So these are the prerequisites. You're not

9:40

going to get anywhere without these things

9:42

as a guy. It

9:45

continues. No kids and must be employed.

9:48

I hear that one to some extent. To

9:51

some extent. No kids. This

9:53

one I don't get must earn an iPhone. Don't

9:58

know about that one. Must know how to cook. No

10:01

tattoos, no gold teeth. I

10:03

agree with this one. No

10:05

gold teeth. Okay.

10:08

No stained teeth from smoking. Yeah,

10:11

that's a good one. I like that.

10:13

That's good. And by the way, the one

10:15

about like being employed, that's kind of important

10:17

because it shows that you've got some self-discipline,

10:20

that you have responsibilities.

10:23

Because if you have a guy without responsibilities,

10:26

he's going to be a disaster, right?

10:29

Yeah, and he's always going to want to hang out

10:31

and I'm like, yo, I have work, you know, I need to

10:33

be at the office. And

10:36

you know, the thing

10:38

about kids is like, I know a lot

10:40

of guys who are dating, especially like my

10:42

age and maybe a little bit younger, they're

10:44

dating women in their

10:46

late 20s, early 30s,

10:48

even late 30s. And a

10:50

lot of these women already have kids. And

10:53

these guys don't mind. Some guys do, some

10:55

guys don't. I think if

10:57

you're really young and you start

10:59

off taking on the responsibility of someone

11:01

else's kid, you're asking for extra work.

11:05

But as you get

11:07

older, the pool shrinks.

11:09

If you're going to try and be with someone who

11:11

hasn't got a kid already, you're going

11:13

to miss out, man. And

11:16

then the last two, very interesting.

11:18

No pousa face and no

11:21

toes from Xian. No

11:25

pousa face. I think we're all agreed,

11:27

right? Yes. I mean, we all want

11:29

a good looking partner. So the

11:32

minute you're finished just looks a bit, can't

11:34

do that. And

11:39

yeah, that's about it. That is the soft

11:41

guy era list. Men are

11:43

retaliating for all the times women have said

11:45

they're toxic for just being men. I think

11:47

it's interesting. I don't know how to play

11:50

out in real life because the reality is

11:52

that there's still a lot of people who

11:54

are very traditional in how they date. But

11:58

maybe you should explain the must-earn version. an iPhone

12:00

because my pillow and I both like a little

12:02

bit confused by that must own an

12:04

iPhone. Do you want to try and have a go at

12:06

what that means? As an iPhone owner, I

12:08

do know that I do judge other

12:10

people when they don't own iPhones

12:13

because the quality of pictures are not the

12:15

same. So from that perspective, I think I

12:17

understand because when you're a couple, you're going

12:19

to take pictures, you're going to post, you

12:21

want to, you know, love lives

12:23

here. And if it's not of iPhone quality,

12:25

then what are we doing? Why?

12:28

Yes, no, no. So I think from

12:30

that perspective, I understand. I

12:33

don't really care what iPhone you have, but as long

12:35

as it's an iPhone. Mo

12:37

Rabbit says, you know that this list was created

12:40

by a single cave troll, right? And

12:44

so I've got an iPhone 7.

12:46

Is that acceptable? I just

12:49

haven't broken it yet. I mean,

12:51

if you own it, yes, yes, it's very

12:53

much you put it with your own money.

12:55

Yes. Right. So

12:59

it's an iPhone. The

13:02

list is making me grateful for being single. You

13:05

can keep them. Soft guys. That's Nicky. Okay.

13:09

Sims, why don't you get the lady needing

13:11

a job and no kids? Women literally have

13:14

a song called No Scrubs. Oh.

13:17

Yeah. I

13:20

guess. I mean, I

13:22

know the lyrics to

13:24

the song, but I

13:26

guess we all know that song, but I

13:28

think that's known as a 90s. That's

13:31

how old it is. Yeah. Like it's

13:33

probably my age. It's

13:35

plenty. Wasn't there

13:37

a study that showed iPhone users are

13:39

literally worse people than Android. Android users

13:41

says naked goose. I don't know about that.

13:44

Do you remember? I

13:46

deny that. Okay. I don't know that

13:48

that's true. Right. I

13:52

shall not confirm. Not tonight. Like I read

13:54

up on a lot of studies about phones

13:56

and whatnot. All I will say is that

13:59

when it comes. to the

14:02

expenses. iPhone users are more

14:04

expensive than Android Jesus and that that was

14:06

also put in the study. That's

14:08

it. That's the only thing I shall confirm.

14:13

Well okay now you've taught me some stuff I

14:15

really I did not know but I'm not sure

14:17

whether I care because I don't feel a lot

14:20

of sympathy. Okay so let's just

14:22

yeah let's just accept that there are

14:24

listen it has become really

14:27

hard to date and I have a

14:29

little bit of sympathy like I don't I don't

14:33

want to if someone came along

14:35

if I met somebody if you

14:38

know just

14:40

amazingly someone turned up in

14:42

my life and I was like

14:44

yeah this is gonna be fun I'd be like

14:46

cool let's give this a go. I just

14:48

don't think that it's easy

14:51

at the moment to find quality people and I

14:53

think all these lists and all these terms and

14:55

all these like new ideas that

14:57

are starting to come out aren't so new

14:59

after all I think it's all just part

15:01

of people desperate to connect and

15:04

because of the internet and everything else

15:06

this is like you know what this is this

15:08

is a singles bar that

15:11

you can go to any time you want. Yes.

15:14

And it's not good for you you

15:16

know it's really not. Yeah

15:20

some of my friends on iPhones they're all

15:22

fucking snobs says Louis wow okay so the

15:24

iPhone thing is a real thing let's just

15:26

put dating aside for a second I didn't

15:28

realize like people who don't have iPhones fucking

15:30

hate people who do I didn't realize this

15:33

was a thing. Yeah

15:35

but I will classify myself as a

15:38

iPhone snob I do come I do judge

15:41

I don't understand why you don't

15:43

own an iPhone like you know and I

15:46

do know that an iPhone is not cheap it

15:50

is expensive and you know

15:52

the Android guys are doing great things in the

15:54

market but they seem to have not just caught

15:56

up with that picture quality there was a video

15:59

of Rihanna performing at

16:01

that was that billionaire

16:04

guy in India. And then there

16:06

was a guy who like had zoomed in like 18 times

16:09

and zoomed out and that was iPhone quality. And

16:12

it was just as if you were right there

16:14

in the front row. So it's one of those

16:16

things that I'm like in terms of capturing pictures

16:18

and videos, I will always be an iPhone. I

16:21

just wanna go back to that. No,

16:23

but hang on. Isn't it true? Like they've

16:25

done all the comparative studies and you've got

16:28

all these tech magazines and

16:30

all these, what do they call those things

16:32

where after reviews and all

16:34

that stuff. And they've discovered iPhone is not

16:36

even the best camera. So

16:40

in the- You're the expert on this

16:42

stuff. You fill me in. Right,

16:45

I've watched them. And what Android

16:48

devices are so good at is capturing

16:50

like 2D surfaces, right? So it's great

16:52

at taking pictures of the moon. Like

16:54

if you took a picture of the

16:56

moon right now an Android camera would

16:59

do 10 times better than the iPhone

17:01

camera. What iPhone has done

17:03

brilliantly is that they've able to capture

17:05

people. And so when you take a

17:07

picture of yourself or with

17:09

your friends, it comes out much more

17:12

clearer than an Android phone. And because

17:14

we live in an age of selfies

17:16

and vlogs and whatnot, if you're

17:18

gonna be capturing content, you wanna be

17:21

capturing content at its best

17:23

quality. Right now

17:25

iPhone is leading that department. That's

17:27

the difference between how the camera

17:29

qualities are and how you

17:31

capture things. So if you're into nature

17:33

photography, by all means get an

17:36

Android. But if you're into just taking pictures

17:38

with your friends, iPhone

17:40

is the way. And

17:42

that's it. Okay, that's

17:44

the expert advice that Simpue has for

17:46

us this morning. No, I didn't realize-

17:48

That's the difference between the cameras and

17:51

how they capture- I have no idea that

17:53

this was like a serious thing that's going

17:55

on. Yeah,

17:58

it's a- It's a real thing,

18:00

but it's not as bad as other people make it

18:03

seem like, you know, I don't go out to people

18:05

and say, oh, you don't have an iPhone, I can't

18:07

be your friend. I just kind of try advise them

18:09

next time you buy a phone, don't you want to

18:11

look at this iPhone, whatever, that's

18:14

it. Who

18:17

gives a fuck? Says, Carl, you

18:19

know, that's a that's a point of view. How

18:21

much better do we want photos to be this

18:23

is an exercise in futility. Okay, so that's

18:25

a good point because all this 4k

18:28

stuff and like these incredible pictures and you

18:30

know how much memory these things take up.

18:32

They've got to be stored somewhere and who

18:34

on earth is looking at all these pictures.

18:36

That's the other thing and I think Carl

18:38

makes a good point here. It's like I

18:41

go through my photo album fairly

18:45

regularly and it's mostly like,

18:47

you know, people I haven't seen in a while

18:49

or stuff that I haven't done or

18:51

thought about for ages. Like I

18:54

don't know how this works, but for

18:56

some people clearly it's important to have these

18:58

high quality photos. You know, we used to

19:00

have such low resolution pictures in

19:02

the old days. Do you remember those things?

19:05

Someone sent me a picture the other day from

19:07

like, it must have been

19:09

the early 2000s and it looked

19:11

like it was taken from

19:13

the moon. It was so grainy

19:15

and bad. I

19:18

think back then that was the top notch

19:20

quality. We were so happy with two

19:22

megapixel. I remember when like Sony

19:25

Erickson came out Samsung what what

19:27

came out two megapixels. We were

19:30

so happy about that and like

19:32

now we have gone on

19:34

to 4k and I think

19:37

that's the thing is that like we always want to

19:39

be better and yeah,

19:41

we always want to get better as humans. And

19:44

I look at my high school pictures where I

19:46

was just 16 and it's grainy as hard and

19:48

then I look at my pictures of today. I'm

19:50

like, improvement in technology. I

19:52

like this. I like this direction

19:55

and where it's going, but it's also just the preference

19:57

thing of what you like and what you don't like

19:59

and I think. Also, iPhone,

20:01

or let me say Apple has definitely

20:04

marketed itself as a lifestyle device. So

20:06

it's part of a lifestyle. If you

20:08

have an iPhone, it means you're that

20:10

person and then you get the MacBook

20:12

and then you get, you know, the

20:15

ecosystem of it is very lifestyle orientated

20:17

as opposed to just selling tech and

20:19

saying this is the best thing on

20:21

the market. I would also say that's

20:23

the difference between the two, Android and

20:27

Apple. Well, I

20:29

mean, I think also we've got

20:32

to differentiate between these devices and what they

20:34

do for us from a picture point of

20:36

view and everything else. I mean, like the

20:38

reason I have these things is

20:41

because I need them for work. It's because they're

20:43

the most convenient way to do stuff. They're all

20:45

the apps that I use every single day. Things

20:48

like Uber, things like, you

20:51

know, my messaging apps, all that kind

20:54

of things. I don't really care about

20:56

anything else. I mean, like to me,

20:58

the photos are an incidental thing. And

21:00

if I don't have my phone for

21:02

photos, too bad. I

21:04

do find it bizarre that we are like more

21:06

interested in taking the picture than we are in

21:08

experiencing the moments, which happens. And

21:11

for a lot of people, that's very complicated. I

21:15

don't get that as a lot like people. I

21:17

don't know when it became a norm to

21:20

like take, especially like I guess taking maybe

21:22

a video of a new experience and you're

21:24

like, oh my gosh, in 10 years time,

21:26

I want to show him the

21:28

30 second clip. But I don't understand

21:30

how like someone could be getting robbed or

21:33

there's a house on fire. And the first thing

21:35

people do is take out their phone instead of

21:37

calling for help. That

21:40

I'm just like, are you crazy? What

21:42

is going on in your mind? Like,

21:44

how do you how have we normalized

21:46

that? Like, we'll have footage

21:49

upon footage of like things just going

21:52

live, someone getting hijacked and you didn't call the

21:54

police first. You didn't bother to just

21:56

be like, yo, let me scream for

21:59

help and then take a video. Yeah,

22:01

you see that one. I can't. I don't

22:03

know. That will always be a mystery to

22:06

me. And I don't know when we've normalized

22:08

that and how we came to a point

22:11

of normalizing that. But I guess that's the

22:13

society that we live in now, which is

22:15

very sad. Very sad. Oh,

22:18

boy. More reasons not to

22:20

be to attach

22:22

the phone more reasons not to

22:25

be in a relationship. Who knows?

22:27

I always call him huge

22:29

reaction instead of huge erection. Didn't

22:33

the Masters golf man mobile phone use for that

22:35

very reason, ie be engaged in the moment and

22:37

not watch that moment three or black mirror. We

22:39

can ask Ben about that. He'll be on the

22:41

show just now. And we'll actually he's like the

22:43

guy when it comes to the Masters. So let's

22:46

ask him. Yes,

22:48

I think that's the way to go here. Just

22:51

one last vicious comment from my fellow

22:54

here iPhone users so vain they

22:56

buy a shitty old phone just to have a

22:58

lot of nine phone. Hmm.

23:02

No, no, I wouldn't buy an old

23:04

one. I mean, if I'm getting a new phone,

23:06

it's always the latest one. But no,

23:08

I don't think vein I just it's a

23:10

perfect but I often

23:12

think about this like if you're gonna use something

23:14

all the time, then it's okay

23:17

if it's expensive. Yes.

23:19

Oh, if it's the thing that you'll be using every

23:22

single day. And it

23:24

costs you as much as a new iPhone.

23:26

What is what is a new iPhone now

23:28

like iPhone 15? What are we talking like

23:31

65,000? Jesus, not maybe 2530 but

23:33

you're saying Oh,

23:38

oh, like you 20 at 20,000 iPhone

23:40

would probably be the iPhone

23:43

12 second hand. Oh my

23:46

God. It's the cost

23:48

of a house. That's

23:50

like expensive. But all phones are like almost

23:53

that price. Like you can get an Android

23:55

phone for like almost 45,000 50,000 and like

23:57

phone are

24:00

expensive. That's an entire deposit. Well,

24:03

poor Ruth. She says morning everybody. By

24:05

the way, this week my Facebook and

24:07

Instagram was hacked. So now I'm selling

24:09

crypto. If you're one of my Facebook

24:11

friends, please unfriend me. I've created a

24:13

new profile. Oh, that sucks. That

24:15

is so horrible. I'm sorry, Ruth. What

24:18

a mess. Oh

24:20

no. Oh, sorry. Now

24:22

you, now you, that's real.

24:25

Okay. And then the reason

24:28

why Brad Pitt eats in his movies, and

24:30

I didn't even know this, but this is

24:32

apparently a thing. So Brad Pitt eats in

24:34

all of his movies? Well, not

24:36

all, but he's actually done this on purpose,

24:39

right? So it's something I recently noticed. And

24:41

then I did a bit of research on

24:43

it that he eats for some

24:45

of his characters, especially the characters that are

24:48

always on the go, the

24:50

ones that kind of are busy. And

24:52

there's a reason behind it. In fact,

24:54

there was a Reddit user who found

24:57

out that the more calories are in

24:59

that particular movie, the

25:01

more money Brad Pitt tends to make

25:03

because the movie does extremely,

25:05

extremely well. But the actual reason

25:07

why Brad Pitt has decided to do this

25:10

is to kind of non-verbally communicate

25:12

with the audience a personality

25:16

of the characters that he's playing. So in

25:18

one of the movies, I forgot the name

25:20

where the character hadn't eaten food for the

25:22

first time. So he kind of showed an

25:25

awkward way of eating to kind of show

25:28

his personality in that department. And then

25:30

also like Rusty in Oceans,

25:32

he was always eating because he didn't

25:34

have time to eat because he was

25:36

that busy, but also the mannerism in

25:39

how he eats for the various characters

25:41

kind of things, you know, how

25:43

the character is, like the personality without him telling

25:46

us. So that's one of the reasons. And he

25:48

makes a lot of money by doing that. So

25:50

the more he eats, the more money he makes

25:52

on the page. That's quite interesting.

25:54

I would never have guessed that.

25:56

Okay. that

26:00

I wouldn't have known. All right, you

26:02

learn these things because we are always seeing

26:04

the movie, the finished product, right? Yeah,

26:07

and we don't really get the thought

26:09

process behind why they wore black or

26:12

white or the red, the table thing.

26:14

And I like back in the days

26:16

of DVDs, at the

26:18

end of the movie, they'd always have

26:21

like a directive cut. And I'd always

26:23

watch that segment to understand, oh, this

26:25

is why this movie was done in

26:27

white and black. And this is why they

26:29

had that light there. The

26:32

gloss was looking to the

26:34

left for a particular reason. And so, yeah,

26:36

even finding this out, I was like, oh,

26:38

my word. That

26:41

is my word. So when

26:43

says that a new iPhone 15 is 31,500 rounds, I

26:47

think you are going for like the one with 9 million

26:50

gigs of memory. Yeah, I

26:52

was also going to say, are you getting the iPhone

26:54

15 Pro

26:57

Max because there's different tiers as well

26:59

with last number gigs?

27:01

Or are you just getting the iPhone 15? Because

27:04

there's like almost three versions of the

27:06

iPhone. iPhone 15, iPhone Pro, and then

27:09

there's the Pro Max. So there's three

27:11

versions of the same phone, and they

27:13

all cost different prices. So the last

27:16

number is the most expensive. And

27:19

then obviously, you work backwards. All

27:23

right, I'm going to have to

27:25

look after this phone. That's

27:27

all. Because clearly, if I lose this

27:29

phone or I break it, I'm

27:31

fucked. I mean, I'm never going to be able to afford

27:33

a new phone. It sounds like you need to mortgage the

27:35

house to get a new phone. You

27:38

could even give your phone as a deposit, Gareth, at

27:40

this point. You could be like, you know what? Yeah,

27:43

you could use it as a deposit on a car

27:45

or a house for sure. Wow.

27:49

OK. All

27:51

right, some of the news quickly, just before

27:53

we get to Ben and we talk about

27:55

some sports. So apparently, the Ha-Teng Transport Department

27:57

and Taxi Industry launched a new tech. In

28:00

fact, Jack Mulcanti was there, apparently, Hauteng residents

28:02

are soon to be introduced to a new

28:04

e-hailing app to mitigate the safety challenges in

28:06

the industry. Members of the taxi

28:09

industry, along with the Hauteng Department of Transport

28:11

are launching SHISHA, which means to

28:13

hurry in this is Zulu. The

28:16

National Taxi Alliance's Pete Mashlandu says a memorandum

28:18

of understanding has been signed between the two

28:20

parties to put an end to the violence affecting them.

28:23

That sounds good, right on paper?

28:25

Yeah. I was thinking about it.

28:27

I was like, hmm, sounds a

28:29

bit too good. How are

28:31

they going to implement this? Because I

28:34

know 90%... Forget

28:36

the people that take taxis, they'll probably have this

28:38

app. But the actual taxi drivers,

28:40

90% of them don't even have

28:42

smartphones. So are they even going to know

28:45

what's going on in this app? Look,

28:49

I don't know if a lot of people are going

28:51

to use a taxi app run

28:53

by the taxi associations. That's

28:56

all I'm saying. I think it might be a little bit

28:58

touch and go. And I don't know whether

29:00

it's going to work properly, but I'm willing to... We're

29:04

talking about it, right? We're giving them a chance.

29:06

Let's see. I would love

29:08

anything that improves the lives of

29:10

commuters in South Africa would be a very valuable

29:12

thing. Yeah. Will

29:15

they be able to complain about the conditions

29:17

of the taxi? That's the most important aspect

29:20

as well. I think it's

29:22

got to do with safety. I

29:24

think it's got to do with access

29:28

to cheap transport. And I think those

29:31

are not the priorities historically of

29:33

the taxi industry. They don't

29:35

really care about safety. And they also don't

29:37

care about giving a better

29:40

deal to the customer. It's about

29:42

a better deal for them. So I'm

29:45

just saying that I think maybe

29:48

this might be a bit messy. But let's see.

29:50

Who knows? Prove me wrong, guys. I would love

29:52

to see... I'm going

29:54

to go into this with a very positive attitude. I'm going

29:56

to say if the taxi industry can come up with an

29:58

app that makes people's lives. better, cheaper, allows

30:01

them to operate more safely, that

30:03

they have a way of giving

30:05

feedback as customers which can improve

30:08

the industry. Great. No

30:11

issue for me. I'm a fan, but I don't think

30:13

that's what's going to happen. Right?

30:16

Not at all. But hey, you know

30:18

what? Let's benefit of the doubt. All

30:22

right. Well, I

30:24

know that Ben is there. Ben, have you got headphones

30:26

at work today? Yeah.

30:30

Oh, you do? I do.

30:32

That's very positive. That's a great development.

30:37

Oh, are you echoey? Hang on. No,

30:39

it just sounds like maybe

30:42

it's because I've had no headphones. Maybe

30:45

it's like rattling around in your head. Listen,

30:50

can I ask you this? Somebody asked

30:52

the question earlier, and you're the guy to help us.

30:55

Is it true that the Masters, they don't

30:57

allow you to have a phone because they

30:59

want you to experience the thing? Yeah. Didn't

31:01

the Masters golf ban mobile phone use? Be

31:04

engaged in the moment, not watch that moment through

31:06

your black mirror. Is that something that happened? Yeah,

31:09

that's exactly what I went through at Ben's last

31:12

week about is, yeah, it's one of the few,

31:14

the only golf event that happens because they want

31:16

you to be there for the Masters. So

31:19

you can put some stupid selfie of

31:21

yourself in the Masters, don't cheapen

31:24

it with your answer. No, it's

31:27

just so special in that regard. And they make

31:30

it happen, and they don't care, and they'll always

31:32

be like us. I

31:34

like that. I also saw you posted something yesterday

31:36

of some guy who made like a Masters thing

31:39

in his own garden, which I thought

31:41

was pretty cool. He basically had this

31:43

pretty impressive looking touching green, and

31:45

a little tee box, and he

31:47

built the scoreboard. And it

31:49

looked like a mini Masters. I mean, first of all,

31:52

great if you've got the space and you've and you've

31:55

actually got a garden that's as lovely as that one

31:57

is. But

31:59

I applaud this. people improving, you know, a

32:01

little part of their garden to make it like

32:03

the master's awesome. Yeah, it's like, you

32:05

know, you have these little milestones you look forward to every

32:07

year. For some people, it's like

32:09

the Oscars, not that it is anymore or like there's

32:11

something that really comes to your life in a certain

32:13

way. And in America, it's also

32:16

at the start of spring. The

32:18

master's comes at such a good time, it makes everyone

32:20

feel so happy. And it's just like, you know, when

32:22

you grow up as a kid, you watch it in

32:24

a certain way, you get a certain experience. And

32:26

then as you grow older, it just means more

32:29

and more. So I think it's so cool. That thing I

32:31

posted was an absolute dream thing to

32:33

do. Because that's like now the

32:35

future of the house, that guy will be known as

32:37

the guy with the master's back on. I

32:40

remember you when we

32:42

were both much, much younger, you had you lived in this

32:45

house with a bunch of other guys, and then you made

32:47

a golf course around the garden.

32:50

Like a like a

32:52

chip and putt course is actually very cool. So you

32:54

were doing this long before this guy made it cool,

32:56

then? Yeah, well, we had this natural

32:58

contoured slope area, which I thought looked like a

33:00

great green. And we made

33:02

90 boxes with this one green, right?

33:05

And then we played around. But these are

33:07

the days when we were just we're in

33:09

our 20s, we were as feral as could be. And

33:12

one one day, I mean, we're decent golfers. And

33:14

one day my mate Mark and I walked down

33:16

the road like 80 meters, and we

33:18

find it like a flat patch of ground. So

33:21

we knew where our green was. It was like

33:23

two houses down. And then we

33:25

actually played we played full shots over. Coming

33:32

traffic, other people's houses.

33:34

So we played full shots. And we actually

33:36

got onto our general green. It was a

33:39

genuine pottery. We walked out

33:41

a genuine sandwich pottery. That's

33:43

bloody amazing. I do

33:46

want to talk about something that someone sent

33:48

me yesterday. It's like it's called a swearing

33:50

matrix. Okay, it looks like this. So

33:53

I'm not going to keep it up too long.

33:55

But if you get close to your screen, you'll

33:57

see what this is. It's got a list of

34:00

words. done the one axis, the x-axis,

34:02

and then a list of words down the y-axis.

34:04

And you meant to put them together. And what

34:06

they've done is they've

34:08

actually done research using the internet.

34:10

They've added up all the comments

34:13

using a combination of those terms to

34:15

determine which are the most popular insult,

34:18

stroke, swear words, stroke,

34:20

combo terms on

34:22

the internet. And the most popular one by

34:25

a long way without a whole

34:27

lot of competition is dumbass.

34:30

Dumbass is the most popular combo. Scumbag

34:33

and juice bag are also

34:35

very popular. Also

34:39

dipshit, asshat,

34:43

and libtard rank

34:45

quite highly. But then it goes all the way down.

34:47

And the least popular ones are things like scumwits,

34:50

which I've never heard before, I must be honest

34:52

with you. Wank

34:55

nozzle, which is obviously not

34:57

a popular one. Wank

35:00

clown, I think, needs more. Wank clown,

35:02

that's quite something, yeah. That needs more

35:04

attention, I think. That can definitely be

35:06

a warmer box. So

35:09

are there any of these that immediately scream

35:11

out at you? I mean, I

35:13

did think that possibly butt

35:18

waffle, scum

35:21

sucker, that's quite good. And

35:25

generally, like the word goblin, anything with goblin at

35:27

the end of it tends not to be very

35:29

popular. Not surprising. No,

35:31

goblin has a history of being

35:33

popular anyway. Like twat

35:35

goblin is not really a common

35:37

term. Twat waffle, though, gets

35:39

a bit of heat. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I

35:46

love that someone, and you know what, this is

35:48

probably part of someone's PhD study, right? They're at

35:50

some Ivy League university. And instead

35:52

of developing a cure for cancer or

35:55

actually helping people overcome

35:57

trauma, or God knows what else.

36:00

They've focused their energy. I'm

36:03

putting the swearing matrix together and they'll probably get

36:05

their degree. They've probably got a doctorate in some,

36:08

I don't know, linguistic,

36:11

sociological field of study

36:13

because of this. This is what people are doing with their

36:15

time. Fantastic study of human

36:17

behavior. Twatwaffle.

36:20

Well, it's basically from Reddit where people

36:22

are sharing their opinions the whole time,

36:24

right? So you need to be twatwaffling

36:26

people. Shit-gobbling

36:28

them then. Shit-goblin-ing.

36:37

The fact that you're using this sentence. But I

36:39

mean, have we run out? What

36:42

are the new swear words? Because

36:45

I think a lot of these have been around for

36:47

hundreds of years. Are there any new? Have you ever

36:50

heard a new swear word and thought, wow, that's power?

36:55

Are words allowed to become swear words? I think

36:57

it's kind of like that whole champagne and cognac

36:59

thing. You've got your fundamental swear

37:01

words. The next speech has become slow. It's

37:04

like, guys, if I were to call you a queef bucket, I

37:07

don't think that's so much a swear

37:09

word as it's just a way of me

37:11

just using new words to insult you. I

37:14

think swear words can only be like, it's like the Ten Commandments,

37:16

right? Right? Yeah.

37:19

Because if

37:21

we start saying that a lot of things

37:23

become swear words, then it takes away from

37:25

the grandeur and the history and the prestige

37:28

of actual swear words like shit-cun-fuck. Yeah.

37:32

I mean, they're really always the dirty seven that

37:34

you could never say in radio. And

37:37

that was why they were special because they were written

37:40

into a list that specifically excluded

37:42

from polite conversation. Yeah.

37:45

So those should be celebrated. Yeah.

37:49

You know what they are, St. P. Wier? I think I

37:51

know one or two. Like, it's

37:53

probably fuck and bitch. Actually, can't

37:55

piss cocks like a motherfucker tits. Wait,

37:57

what? He said tits before.

38:00

He was the one

38:02

that you're allowed to say on the radio. I knew them

38:04

like the back of my hand because I knew that if

38:07

I said any of them, I would have got fired back

38:09

in the day. So fuck shit, cunt piss, cocksucka, motherfucker tits.

38:13

And I really know, George Carlin

38:15

used to say, because he could rattle them off and

38:17

he had a whole stand

38:20

up routine about this. He never understood and I

38:22

don't either, why tits is on that list. I

38:24

don't think tits is an angry, vicious,

38:26

cruel, nasty swear like tits

38:29

is like the friendliest possible thing. And

38:32

I don't think it belongs on that list of

38:34

very bad words. It's

38:36

just the worst word to describe breasts, but

38:38

then people are called tits out of other

38:40

reasons like guys get called tits a lot.

38:44

I think I might've called a lot of

38:46

people as tits in the last month. If

38:49

you do something good, I

38:51

often say if something is really amazing, I go,

38:53

wow, that's so tits, which means it's

38:55

great. But that wasn't East Randism

38:57

that came into the lexicon. Excuse me?

39:00

It wasn't East Randism. That's a few.

39:03

I'm not sure about that one. I don't wanna

39:05

claim that one. They were the

39:07

first people to make the jump going from

39:09

tits into a pejorative, negative into a sweet.

39:11

I don't know. We're not claiming that

39:13

one, sir, no. Okay, well.

39:17

As a representative from the East Rand, we

39:20

do not claim that that's what

39:22

we did. The East Rand is very broad, huh? Yeah,

39:24

but I think I can represent

39:26

the majority of it. Yeah,

39:28

because that's where it came from. I

39:31

didn't hear that when I grew up in Cape Town. And

39:33

when I got up here and I saw the jawlings. And

39:37

you're by the East side of the place.

39:39

I've been coming to have a lip-heber tut

39:41

not. Yeah, I think

39:43

it came from me. It

39:47

flowed in from Benoni more than it flowed in

39:49

from anywhere else. Yeah,

39:51

you don't have to stand up for the whole

39:53

East Rand every time, hey? Like, the

39:56

East Rand has some... I just like the

39:58

negativity and the negativity. No,

40:01

the thing is the East were

40:30

that just shows you a very like, low I

40:32

didn't know doing your

40:34

low quality, low quality

40:36

human saying low quality words? Yeah. native

40:41

goose wants to know on the swearing

40:43

matrix, do the lib tards and the

40:45

Trump tards compete against each other? I

40:47

would. Absolutely. Those

40:51

guys like diametrically opposed, right? All

40:55

right. Well, I mean, we often talk about

40:57

swearing and we've discussed the merits and the

40:59

demerits as swearing before. So

41:01

I think this is just this is a more

41:04

study that will help us to figure out, you

41:07

know, kind of how we should be speaking

41:09

to each other. And then I saw this,

41:11

which is quite interesting, chat GPT for the

41:13

fourth incarnation of it could

41:16

be used to triage eye problems. Her

41:18

and an academic researcher says AI could

41:21

be used to figure out with patients,

41:23

what kind of eye issues they have

41:25

by deciding urgent cases that need to

41:28

be seen by specialists. Apparently, chat GPT

41:30

for can be

41:32

used to score

41:34

up to 69% when tested in a

41:37

mock exam of 87 questions. Expert

41:39

ophthalmologists achieved a median score of 76%

41:42

trainees scored 59% junior doctors 43.

41:44

So that means

41:48

AI is already outperforming junior

41:51

doctors, trainees, and everyone

41:54

except the experts ophthalmologists. That's

41:56

quite cool. So again, machines

41:59

doing stuff that humans can

42:01

do but doing it faster and better

42:03

and with less likelihood of mistakes. That's

42:06

incredible. Yeah. Oh, I'm going

42:08

to say I watched I robot. Oh,

42:11

take over the world. This

42:13

is, this is, That was years ago. Since you and

42:16

now they're much more scary. Have you seen those ones

42:18

that are being made by Boston dynamics that can like

42:21

talking down, they get back up immediately

42:23

and they can jump and do like

42:25

some assaults and shit that is quite

42:27

scary. Yes. And I've also

42:29

seen the ones where they've interviewed the

42:32

robots and they have a bit of

42:34

an attitude, like the one person was

42:36

talking about the actual model or version

42:38

that they've just built and then like

42:40

the robot halfway through his sentence was

42:42

like, okay, thanks now. Like you've said

42:44

enough, you know, let's get

42:46

like it has a bit of an attitude.

42:48

And I'm just like, this is scary. This

42:51

is very scary. I'm

42:53

just saying it now. Let's stop.

42:55

Let's stop. Like, Exactly. Let's

42:58

stop. Would you on

43:01

that note, because clearly, I mean, like

43:03

there are wars all over the world

43:05

right now. There's this Israel Gaza conflict.

43:07

There's Russia, Ukraine. Would

43:09

you be opposed to robots doing our fighting for us?

43:14

Only if they interview them afterwards. What

43:19

do you mean? That's anywhere I'd want them

43:21

in the mix. So if, if they are to

43:23

do this, which is inevitable because that's how these

43:25

things go, right? It's inevitable. It's not fight. But

43:28

I want it. I want them to be with Wolf

43:30

Blitzer afterwards. Talk about that. Talk

43:32

about a strategy. What they're into.

43:36

Do the robots thing actually, we're not going to fight

43:38

each other. We're just going to fight the humans. I

43:40

mean, like we are just absolutely doomed here. Also,

43:43

like I know in South Africa,

43:45

how it would work for us. Like we have

43:47

load shedding. So would our robots just be like

43:50

from six until eight, we can't fight, you know?

43:53

How would that? Well, that's kind of that's how our

43:56

military is at the moment, because most of them

43:58

are like overweight and take like three lunches. breaks

44:00

during the day. So if we were invaded

44:02

by Swaziland tomorrow, I think we would probably

44:04

lose. Yeah, you

44:06

see. And how would they

44:08

fight? Are they fighting like on a, you know,

44:10

they need one on one, and then they kind

44:13

of have like an actual physical fight? Or is

44:15

this all in the, like, the

44:17

tech space and the one takes

44:19

over the other computer and sets

44:21

down and you know what I mean? But

44:23

I mean, it's already kind of happening with drone stuff.

44:26

I mean, Obama was giving people through drones ages ago

44:28

and now it's the Saudi

44:30

intercepting Iranian drones going to Israel.

44:33

It's all happening. And so you might have time

44:35

until the actual AI boots go into the ground,

44:37

so to speak. Coke

44:40

says Boston Dynamics is so good. It actually

44:42

looks like CGI. And that is true. It

44:44

does. It's bloody amazing. There was a video

44:46

I saw just yesterday, which made me think,

44:48

wow, we're in big trouble. Mike

44:51

says Boston Dynamics has a new bus. It's so

44:53

scary just watching it get up. I

44:55

think that's the same video I was I was watching

44:57

yesterday, Mike, where the thing, it's

44:59

like it's fallen on its back. So it's

45:02

a humanoid shape, right? But then it uses

45:04

its knees and it like picks

45:06

itself up. You know, like only

45:08

the best human gymnast could, but it does

45:10

it by like turning

45:12

its knees the other way around, which a human can't

45:14

do. So it's just wild. I

45:17

mean, these things are they are seriously going to

45:19

mess us up. Well, we'll do

45:21

it because if you watch District 9 and Vyasan brings

45:23

up a good point here, you saw

45:25

what happened in District 9 when the robots came. They

45:27

were put into a township. They were

45:29

ostracized. They were harvested for scrap metals.

45:33

I mean, come on, we were going to be okay. No,

45:35

but that's South Africa as well. All I'm saying

45:37

is South Africa and the rest of the world,

45:39

two different breeds. Two different breeds.

45:42

We will be using it for scrapyard

45:44

and Americans are out

45:46

there busy fighting and doing the actual like

45:49

I'm just worried. I'm just worried

45:52

that our time is mere

45:55

mortals is coming to an end faster than

45:57

what we think because of robots

45:59

in A.M. Okay,

46:01

so we all I think

46:03

got into the gentleman Guy Ritchie's new

46:06

series and I loved it.

46:08

I actually really I watched it all

46:10

in like two or three days. It

46:12

was absolutely fantastic. Loved every bit of

46:14

it. Great scripting, great

46:16

acting, amazing, you know,

46:19

movie making skills. We know what

46:21

this guy's all about. People are

46:23

accusing him of being like a

46:25

one-trick pony and I'm like, you know what,

46:28

from a bunch of people who aren't even

46:30

a one-trick pony, they're a zero-trick pony. Why

46:32

would you be giving Guy Ritchie shit when

46:35

he has proven his chops in

46:37

making movies, series,

46:40

short films? Like the guy is bloody good at

46:42

what he does and if you don't like it,

46:44

cool, then don't watch his stuff. But

46:46

I would like to see more Guy Ritchie stuff and

46:49

I know what I'm in for. I know I'm in

46:51

for like some snappy dialogue and I'm in for a

46:53

couple of fight scenes, a little bit of violence, but

46:56

Tarantino-esque, you know what we're talking about,

46:58

right? Always based in like Britain, like

47:00

some gangster stuff in there. I think

47:02

it's awesome. Why are they giving him

47:04

shit, Ben? Well, I always

47:06

think growing up it was like you never want to

47:08

be a one-trick pony and it was like such a

47:10

slur. It's like, oh, look at that guy's all he

47:13

can do. And I saw watching the gentleman, I was

47:15

thinking, okay, so he took that from Snatch. He

47:17

took that from Rock and Rolla. He took that.

47:19

I mean, basically he took from all his different

47:21

things, basically. The gentleman is like, okay, these are

47:24

all my parts. I'm just going to serve them

47:26

together. But it doesn't matter. It works.

47:28

It's great. Everybody loves it. If you're half

47:30

fat of Guy Ritchie, the gentleman is great.

47:33

And the fact that he managed to transition the movie

47:35

stuff into a series is cool, but it's

47:37

exactly what you expect. Exactly. But

47:39

you could accuse Scorsese of that.

47:44

You could accuse Tarantino of that.

47:47

You could accuse J.K. Rowling's

47:49

books. I mean, she's tried to write other stuff,

47:51

but the Harry Potter stuff is what people wanted.

47:54

It's not so much that she's a one-trick pony.

47:56

What it is is like, that's

47:58

what people want. And we We want this

48:00

from Guy Ritchie. We

48:02

want George Lucas to make Star Wars. We want

48:04

Guy Ritchie to make his movies. We want J.K.

48:07

Rowling to write Harry Potter. Let people do what

48:09

they're good at. And it's not one trick pony.

48:13

They've come up with a product

48:15

that is phenomenally successful. And

48:17

now they're being asked to make it again and again. Yeah.

48:21

Well, if you look at ACDC

48:23

or Metallica or whoever, you

48:25

listen to this thing, you know, it sounds like the

48:27

other songs. And that's really amazing. I'm so glad it

48:29

does. Imagine they were to try other things. They go,

48:31

no, no, no. We're going to different for it. Because

48:34

I feel like that's what I just know, like

48:36

they need to know. Brian Johnson of ACDC trying

48:38

to sound like Taylor Swift. I don't think I

48:40

want to hear that. Yeah. So I just actually

48:42

don't get the phrase one trick

48:44

pony. And I don't see how it's

48:46

a way that that sort of come from where it

48:48

became seen as something bad. Because there's so

48:51

many people in this world, there's so many different things that we get

48:53

to look at. Unless you are absolutely

48:55

killing one thing, then you're just going to be

48:57

forgotten. You're going to be average at a bunch of

48:59

things. It's such a cool thing to be

49:01

so good at one thing and the mastery that you create out

49:03

of that. Because even though the gentleman

49:05

is cut and paste are so many different

49:07

things, the way it is used now

49:09

in this current iteration brings new

49:11

life to the characters. It brings a new

49:14

way of presenting the snappy dialogue. It brings

49:16

a new way of editing. And

49:18

that is just so cool. It's just like this evolution of

49:20

what was already so cool. Well,

49:23

let me ask you about this. And, Simpira,

49:25

I know that we've kind of touched on this

49:27

once or twice before. But Ben

49:29

doesn't like the term one trick pony, and neither do

49:31

I, frankly. But the other term I

49:33

don't like is this idea of jack of all

49:35

trades. When people say, oh,

49:38

yeah, he's a jack of all trades master of none. And it's

49:41

like an insult, right? It's the sort of thing that you would

49:43

say to someone who is average

49:46

to below average on 10 different things.

49:48

But they never really brilliant at one

49:50

thing. So in some ways,

49:53

it's the opposite of one trick pony. But there

49:56

used to be a different term for that. And

49:58

sometimes you hear people use it. use it. Renaissance

50:01

man, fully man. In

50:04

other words, you have the ability to do a bunch of different things. Well,

50:07

I know some people who are very

50:09

talented artists, but

50:11

they're also runners. They're

50:14

also business people.

50:17

They're also fathers or

50:19

mothers. What

50:22

is this shit of like trying to make? If

50:24

someone someone's good at one thing, then that's bad.

50:27

But if they're good at a bunch of things,

50:29

then they can't possibly be good at those things.

50:31

Isn't it just weak, unachieving,

50:33

loserish people trying to find a way

50:35

to make other people worse than them?

50:38

Yeah, it's generally people who have less action

50:40

do less. So they scrutinize more. And we've

50:42

all been kind of being able to make

50:45

these people will understand the psychology behind this.

50:49

But also just like the double

50:51

standards, we have no issues

50:53

with who like footballers, they

50:55

only have one talent kicking ball. And

50:57

they make so much money out of it.

50:59

And we praise them for having that one

51:01

talent. Sports stars literally have that one talent

51:04

and then, you know, they get

51:06

an injury done for them, because most of them

51:08

don't know anything besides sport. And we

51:10

kind of praise them because they focused in on

51:12

that one thing and they've become the greatest athlete.

51:14

And then like in terms of the everyday person

51:16

you expect some people to be able to do

51:19

12345 things and then you get mad at her

51:23

for not being able to do any of those things. Because

51:25

you're just like, but you supposed to it's like, no,

51:27

I could also just be like, you know,

51:29

one of those sports guys who's only good

51:31

at like maybe creating

51:33

a podcast. And that's the only thing I'm

51:36

good at like anything else is, you

51:38

know, it's not I mean, you've interviewed

51:40

a lot of sports people. And sometimes they're

51:43

not the greatest people to interview. Sometimes they're

51:45

not that interesting. There's not like a whole

51:47

lot of sense of humor or

51:49

anything else. Obviously, there are lots of people who

51:51

break this rule. And there are many people who

51:53

are able to do a lot of different things.

51:55

But sometimes the very best sports people are

51:58

so focused on being great sports that

52:00

they don't develop the other aspect. It's like when

52:03

you meet a really, really attractive girl and she's

52:05

just spent her entire life looking good and

52:07

she's never developed other skills or abilities.

52:10

You know? Yes, exactly. And she should be

52:12

respected for that. Frankly,

52:15

supported too. Right, one

52:17

trick pony, bring it on. Yeah.

52:20

No, it's just weird because those two things live

52:22

in the same world, right? The Jack of all

52:25

trades, master of none. These things are created to

52:27

insult people. Going back to the whole thing about

52:29

swearing is that humans are always trying to

52:31

find a way of putting each other down. But when you

52:33

really dust the dirt off these

52:35

stupid throwaway comments, it actually holds so

52:37

little air. It really does. So

52:40

I- Shut up, you plunge bucket. Yeah.

52:46

Yeah, in many ways, I always look at someone who

52:48

does just one thing and one thing really, really well.

52:50

And I always have so much, maybe

52:52

envy is not the right word, like almost admiration of

52:55

how they can be so focused and so single-minded. There

52:57

must be such a cool way of just drowning

53:00

out so much noise towards other things. I

53:03

mean, I look at sports people who get it right.

53:05

I think that must be such a cool life. Sure,

53:07

everything falls off a cliff eventually with attention and money

53:09

and that kind of stuff. But with Guy Ritchie as

53:11

well, he just, what a cool

53:14

life. It's just that he thought his world

53:16

was fascinating and therefore he wanted to make

53:18

movies and things to portray how fascinating his

53:20

world was. He didn't think that

53:22

like, oh, I'm gonna try portray French people

53:24

or whatever. No, he wanted to portray gangsters.

53:27

But those kind of gentlemanly gangsters

53:29

from yesteryear who thought,

53:32

yeah, they were dodgy, but they had an element

53:34

of like sophistication to them. And I think that

53:36

is just so cool. And it really is. Yeah,

53:39

by the way, Linda has given us the

53:42

entire saying, which is probably quite instructive. It

53:44

is a jack of all trades is a

53:46

master of none, but oft times

53:48

better than a master of one. That's

53:52

a much better saying than just jack of all trades

53:54

master of none. But

53:58

also isn't there saying that too? It's

54:00

not exactly what we were saying. Don't

54:02

fix it. Also, does that not

54:04

work hand in hand? It goes on to this.

54:07

There's nothing broken with Gary. She's just great. So

54:10

if you found a formula to making a million

54:12

rand, don't break it. Keep doing

54:14

it. And make 10 million and make 20. It's

54:17

the same thing. He's found his

54:19

formula. It works. We love

54:22

it. We keep coming back for more. And

54:24

the minute people start saying, we don't want

54:26

this, then that's when you switch it up.

54:28

That's when you start paying and doing all

54:30

these experiment things of today's

54:32

time. Until then, hi, bookers.

54:36

Don't fix it. Yeah. Slippery pickled. You've

54:39

asked here, what is sophisticated about feeding people to

54:41

pigs? Well, people die. Or people

54:43

need to be killed. So what do you do with

54:45

them? Feeding to pigs is a very sophisticated

54:47

way of getting rid of them. For

54:50

example, this

54:52

is not related, but it's made me very sad this morning. Some

54:55

woman knocked over a cat outside my road yesterday

54:57

morning. Sorry, yesterday afternoon. Because I

54:59

saw these women having an argument, and I saw a

55:01

car, and I saw a dead cat. So

55:04

I had to go back inside because I was doing

55:06

something. So I thought maybe this woman was going to

55:08

do the right thing and do something with the cat.

55:10

No, I woke up this morning. The cat is still

55:13

dead on the side of the road. So I asked

55:15

another girl, and somewhere if she could dig a grave

55:17

for this cat's drag at home today. And it's a

55:19

laborious process. I've done it before because

55:21

people are just like, assholes. So

55:23

I'm going to find something to bury this cat with, try

55:25

to give her some dignity. But in

55:27

gangster land, getting rid of bodies is

55:30

very difficult. And to

55:32

be able to have pigs in a

55:34

farm kind of setting is so

55:36

super smart because it's like you're

55:38

getting rid of things, no evidence. Getting

55:41

rid of things, the labor is less. I'm

55:44

just blown away by the fact that Ben buries

55:47

random cats. I think that's very nice of you,

55:50

but you must be busy. I

55:52

know, but it's going to be like a two-hour deal

55:54

of my life today, which

55:56

I have to do. Two-hour? Well, I've got

55:58

to find a hole, right? live in like a

56:01

small hole, and live in a busy road

56:03

in urban Johannesburg. And I

56:05

need to find a spade, I need to find something

56:07

to enclose the cat with. People

56:10

just walk past this thing. I saw a guy like kind

56:12

of kick it with his shoe and see if it was

56:14

alive. And there's a guard house to a hotel right there,

56:16

and that guy's done nothing. I'm

56:20

surprised that some homeless guys try to eat

56:22

the corpse. I

56:25

don't think it would be good enough to eat.

56:29

Oh, well, okay, I'm sorry, what a shit

56:31

thing. I mean, that's really, people are so

56:33

shitty, they really are. I mean, like, yeah,

56:35

sorry, I'm just on the side that

56:38

just pissed me off this morning. I

56:42

want to put you off people even more. Someone

56:44

sent me this picture. You

56:47

know, John Lennon and Yoko Ono, they used to do

56:49

this thing where they would like sit in bed for

56:51

like weeks at a time, they called it Bed-in. And

56:54

it was like a protest. They were

56:57

protesting the Vietnam War and all

56:59

kinds of other shit. Anyway,

57:01

someone has a picture of the two of them, and

57:03

they make it in this picture, but it's not like

57:05

X-rated because it's just from behind, so you just see

57:07

their butts. And you

57:10

cannot believe how long John

57:13

Lennon's butt crack is and how

57:15

short Yoko Ono's is. Just

57:18

take a look at this. This is important.

57:21

No one's brought this up before. I thought it

57:23

was worthy of discussion. Yeah,

57:26

so here it is. What? Have

57:29

a fucking look. Describe

57:35

what you see, Simpue. Wow,

57:43

come on. Describe that

57:45

for the people. There are a lot of people

57:47

who wasn't ready. Yeah, actually,

57:50

I think it was better when you described it,

57:52

Gareth, and now it's like having the visual

57:54

behind it. Okay, so

57:56

here's what's happening. This is a picture

57:58

from the... the

58:00

early 70s of John Lennon and Yoko

58:02

Ono. Okay, the only reason you can

58:04

tell it's because John Lennon's wearing his famous little

58:06

round glasses, Yoko Ono's got a long black hair,

58:09

and it's the two of them with

58:11

their backs facing the camera. John Lennon's

58:13

butt crack goes from the

58:15

bottom of his saggy ass up

58:18

to like halfway along his back. Looks

58:21

like he's playing a s fad line. Not long. He's wearing a

58:23

long claw. And

58:28

Yoko Ono has exactly the

58:30

opposite. Um, she's

58:32

got this butt crack that starts

58:35

obviously at the bottom of her much

58:37

less saggy ass, but nonetheless, not good.

58:39

And it goes up maybe two inches. This

58:44

has been my morning worst. Most

58:48

horrific thing. Come

58:53

on Ben, don't tell me you don't come

58:55

to this show for the exciting stuff. You

58:58

know, I know that so much of the

59:00

world nowadays is so superficial and fake and

59:02

horrible, but at least people present themselves better.

59:04

Those two people are awful looking humans. They

59:06

should never be naked. I

59:09

now understand why PBLs were invented.

59:11

Like, whoa. It's,

59:13

gosh, that was horrendous. I've seen

59:15

some horrible things. I'm going to

59:17

have a note that that is

59:21

by the way, can, can I just say how bloody

59:24

amazing this view behind me is? Look at that. Yeah.

59:26

It's great because the sun's rising behind you at a

59:29

rapid rate now. And yeah, it's

59:31

ever changing. I

59:33

can't really, um, I can show you a

59:35

little bit of this way towards there's a lot

59:37

of mist on the, on the water at the

59:39

moment on the sea and over

59:41

that way is obviously the city itself. So

59:44

there's some, there's some pretty views here in Cape Town

59:46

today. Um, just, uh, you

59:48

know, in case you, in case you come here for

59:50

the visuals, I don't

59:52

know what would be, maybe you come here for

59:54

John Lennon's butt, butt crack. I mean, maybe you

59:57

just gave us like a, I cleanse with you.

1:00:00

Then we'll front of not only as

1:00:02

bad as if you assume I wonder.

1:00:05

If you to run what agree with you

1:00:07

come to for the Sir John's cracked zero

1:00:09

that's a good idea or a james make

1:00:12

a poll to say what brings you to

1:00:14

garth of says morning. A great the

1:00:16

of take some. A John Lennon

1:00:18

and Yoga and As But Cracks or

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The Loss. Some.

1:00:24

Or the Swearing Matrix. I mean it's have

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1:00:31

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