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You Well,

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David Walliams is an extraordinary talent

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and actor comedian writer television personality.

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He's coming to South Africa because

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he's written a slew

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of incredible children's books. I actually spoke to a

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friend of mine today and she told me that

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her five children are

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all absolutely in love with David's books.

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My own two nephews are just as

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excited about the fact that I mean to bring

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them some of his books and here he

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is to tell us all about it. David Walliams,

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it's such a pleasure to see you. How are you? I'm

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good. Thank you. How are you? Exceedingly

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well and more more more happy than

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you can imagine for having you. I'm

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so I'm so fucking excited to see

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you. Actually, I can't contain myself. No,

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I mean, look, the books

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are amazing and I do want to talk

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about them because I know that's why you're

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talking to us. But there's so much other

1:27

stuff that I'd love to pick your brain

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on. Either way, congratulations on the success of

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all of these books. They've been a tremendous

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phenomenon. And I mean, did

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you know that you would end up writing children's books at

1:37

any point? Or is this just something that came in? Well,

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I'm just thinking that I've

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been writing professionally for about 30 years.

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And 15 of those years have

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been writing books

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with children. So it's been a big part

1:53

of my career, but I was so focused

1:56

in the early parts of my career on

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being you

2:00

know, trying to create successful

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comedy shows to television. I

2:04

wasn't really thinking about it,

2:07

other than being a fan of children's

2:09

books as an adult, you know, just

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loving reading

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as many children's books as I could, because

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when you become an adult, you realize there's quite a

2:18

lot of good children's books that you've missed because you

2:20

weren't the right age, or you never go around to

2:22

actually reading them. So I was reading

2:24

a lot and thinking, oh, I've got an idea for

2:26

a children's story, maybe I should have a go. Might

2:30

be interesting, someone might want to read it. That was

2:32

The Boy in the Dress, that was 15 years ago,

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and I think there's been

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about 40 titles since then. So I've

2:39

been busy, but I do love it, and

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it's not that different to what I was

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doing before, in terms of, it's

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still writing, creating characters, making

2:49

jokes, those kind of things. It's just a

2:51

kind of emotional dimension that I didn't

2:53

do before, because you can't really do

2:55

emotions much in comedy sketches. Well,

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I begged to differ, you even used the word try just

3:02

now, and I mean, you've been successful as all

3:04

more in that pursuit as well. But what I

3:06

love about these books, and what I used to

3:08

love as a kid, I

3:10

loved, and there's the inevitable comparison with Roald Dahl,

3:13

which I'm not sure if you're happy with that

3:15

or you're unhappy with it, but from my point

3:17

of view. I'm happy, I imagine he's unhappy. Well,

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I think- He's rolling in his grave. I

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don't know. I think Roald Dahl and you have

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a lot in common, it's not just that you

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shared the illustrator, Quentin Blake, which I recognized immediately

3:31

from my own childhood, but it's

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in the style. You take your

3:36

reader seriously, Roald Dahl

3:38

never pandered to children. He never sort

3:41

of spoke to them in humiliating child

3:43

speak, and you do the same thing,

3:45

you've got great stories. He

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never patronized them, and I think that's why

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people love it about it, and also people

3:52

forget that children are quite aspirational. So

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when you're 10, you wanna read a book

3:57

that's really for like 12 year olds, and

3:59

when you're- 12 you

4:01

want to watch an 18 film and it

4:03

just isn't the way it is. So if

4:05

you make a really cutesy story about Harry

4:07

the Hedgehog, you know, people,

4:10

kids beyond about six

4:13

probably aren't that interested because

4:15

it just sounds kind of

4:17

cutesy. But to

4:19

read something that feels forbidden that you're reading

4:21

under the covers with a torch light and

4:25

you know you think maybe my parents would

4:27

totally approve because it's a bit rude or

4:29

a bit scary. I think

4:33

that's a better thing and

4:36

also you know children are spasicated and the

4:41

entertainment they want is that I don't

4:43

think they want things that feel childish

4:48

and I think that's the most important thing to

4:50

underestimate them. So yeah, I

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suppose that's what I learned from him

4:57

but I wouldn't put myself in the

4:59

same universe as Talon. I don't

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know it seems like they're selling like hotcakes all over

5:04

the world. Well yeah, that

5:06

doesn't necessarily mean that they're as good

5:08

as they are. I mean there's plenty

5:10

of brilliant writers who don't necessarily sell

5:13

millions of books and lots of bad writers

5:16

who do so. So

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I can't go oh well I

5:20

told you because I must be

5:22

prison. You know, you just got

5:24

to listen to your own instincts and if I'm happy

5:26

with it then I kind of think maybe it's good

5:28

and maybe I want to

5:30

share with people but I can't really be

5:33

my own critic. Other people can get on with

5:35

that. I

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just love the fact that there's also that you

5:39

hinted at it already that little bit of naughtiness,

5:41

that little bit of things

5:43

that are disgusting or things that kids shouldn't

5:45

talk about that all the prim and proper

5:47

mums and dads might say oh I don't

5:49

know if that's appropriate and you kind of

5:52

go there and I think children love that

5:54

because it does feel as if they're going

5:56

into forbidden territory. Yes

5:58

and but well, would say about

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that is even if kids are reading something

6:02

that's like feels a little

6:04

bit edgy in some way, obviously you don't want

6:07

them reading 50 Shades of Grey, but if they're

6:09

reading something a little edgy like The Witches or

6:11

something and then most of all

6:13

you'd be pleased that they're reading with

6:17

all the distractions they have now

6:19

but I think you

6:21

know I'm not sure you would actually

6:23

sort of disapprove of that. I don't

6:25

really know we often assume that there's

6:28

other people who have

6:32

I don't know think in a certain way that

6:34

they want to censor everything and moralize for everything

6:36

but I don't really know anyone like that

6:39

and I don't know if you do but

6:41

I don't know if people seriously disapprove of

6:43

things like Roald Dahl but I can't think

6:46

that they work. No

6:48

I don't think that there are a lot of

6:51

people in my life unnecessarily in yours like that

6:53

but I certainly think they exist and you've encountered

6:55

lots of them through the course of making shows

6:57

like Little Britain you know things that you

6:59

took the piss out of things which

7:01

now I think people are tremendously sensitive

7:03

about and I don't

7:06

know if you could make shows like that anymore

7:08

I don't know if you could write certain books

7:10

anymore you mentioned 50 Shades of Grey I think

7:13

you know there'd be a lot of... I've read it so

7:15

I don't know much about it but I know what

7:18

the story is lately but I've read

7:20

it. My mum's ready and my mum's

7:22

80. I

7:25

think it's probably just a little bit of slap

7:27

and tickle and maybe it gets a bit... but

7:30

you know there'd be people who say oh well

7:32

it's abusive and all of that stuff. I don't

7:34

know I haven't read it but you

7:36

know it was written by a woman and

7:38

it's a sort of fancy and stuff like

7:40

that. But

7:43

I just think I suppose we're just more

7:45

sensitive but something like Little Britain it

7:48

was satirizing Britain of

7:50

20 plus years

7:52

ago and if

7:55

you were making it now it'd be different because

7:57

you'd be satirizing this moment in time. So

8:01

yeah, sensitivities are

8:03

different, but

8:07

every day someone comes up and says, oh, is there

8:09

going to be more Little Britain? Oh, we're loving it.

8:12

And new generations all the time are

8:14

discovering it. I think Come Fly

8:16

With Me is like number one

8:18

or two, often in most downloaded TV shows

8:21

and I choose. That's like about,

8:23

I don't know, me

8:25

getting on for about 15 years since

8:27

it was made. What

8:31

can I say? I mean, there's

8:33

still a big audience for things.

8:35

And if you look at like

8:37

Netflix, comedians like Dave Chappelle or

8:40

Richard Gervais or Jimmy Carr, people

8:43

like, they're actually stuck, don't they? I mean,

8:45

they're still, they're probably

8:47

the biggest comedians on Netflix. I

8:50

don't know about you, but when I hear something's controversial,

8:53

I immediately want to see

8:56

it, listen to it, whatever,

8:58

because it's interesting. And

9:02

some art sets out to shock an offense.

9:06

I mean, if you're the Six Pistols or

9:09

the photographer Robert Maplethorpe or your certain artist with

9:13

Tracy Emin or something, I mean, that's,

9:15

that shocking is part of what you're

9:17

trying to do. So,

9:20

I mean,

9:22

Richard Gervais, I watched that really there.

9:24

I mean, it's, I mean,

9:26

I wasn't shocked exactly, but I kind of

9:29

understand that it's got a shock value. And

9:34

those things are wildly popular.

9:36

So I don't think those things

9:38

are going away. I don't think there'll be

9:40

a time when no one can have fun.

9:42

I mean, I always think it's like different

9:45

stories from different photos. And Life of

9:47

Brian is probably

9:49

my favorite comedy film ever. I

9:52

love it. But if you were the Pope, you probably

9:54

wouldn't. So

9:58

it's not for the Pope. Wow.

10:01

I could, just as I wouldn't. Be.

10:03

The Others: Austin Powers movie with my

10:05

Son Loves Loves That. A. Modern

10:07

day is why she did like

10:10

replied oh I'm going next to

10:12

him a weekly was hilarious. You

10:14

didn't vote in his vitals. I

10:16

want to get really good source

10:18

to feed for to eva. Know

10:21

what the know which are you would a great

10:23

idea that we all have to concede the same

10:26

off same time in office and any the bachelor.

10:28

To seems com crazy on work east of

10:31

the I read this in a hurry just

10:33

before because I thought actually he looks like

10:35

I could probably manage. It is about five

10:38

seconds and I i I got through it.

10:40

I loved it. This is just added a

10:42

snake in my school and I think the

10:44

theme of that was also be as individuals

10:47

you can. It's okay. it's okay

10:49

to have a python because the headmistress

10:51

gets eaten. Spoiler alert, but that's the

10:53

kind of thing the kids love. They

10:55

want the headmistress, the wicked Mrs what

10:57

whatever name was to be even. Yeah.

11:00

Well this Bronson accessing if they would

11:03

I was. They also read reddit things

11:05

as if that happened in real life

11:07

It will be are box in the

11:09

context to the store eight it's I've

11:11

had and I think it's the same

11:13

was awful things such what of like

11:15

he that was real. You.

11:18

Know when it's a good yeah that will

11:20

be ready to serve in but it's not

11:22

real and you know it's not real. So.

11:26

What would be going to be? I try this. Guy

11:29

I do have did before we move on

11:31

from Little Britain. Just a teddy? The What?

11:33

when I posted a picture of me and

11:36

my my cohost on a show as bubbles

11:38

and to Zero. Now. From

11:40

from Little Britain I was actually banned

11:42

from facebook. Am and I was in

11:45

the early days when you're in. The Us.

11:47

Attorney walks out just by the

11:49

way he was on which are

11:51

acid or when I would have

11:53

it much about. So.

11:56

We were we were banned thanks to you and

11:58

met Luke landmark. No,

12:00

I had to start a new accounts

12:02

which eyes or I will.means you are

12:04

so about bribery just means of. Escape

12:07

through the next I think someone someone bandage

12:09

on the grounds of nudity is you had

12:11

those prostate. Exam? Yeah

12:13

well or again I I

12:16

can for I'm with Facebook

12:18

almost impossible. Well

12:20

I also have to say that I've got a

12:23

friend. Called. Him and I and

12:25

I believe that for a second know we

12:27

ended up calling Emily How it's just because

12:29

of your so I still calamity how it

12:31

to the states Access I was the and

12:33

sees a wedding and until the be when

12:35

the name was ready Emily how it the

12:38

people in across a crowded got it which

12:40

was a majority thought it was very very

12:42

funny That's an interesting character to and and

12:44

I mean the boy and address which is

12:46

such an interesting idea. That

12:48

they're all these changes that have happened

12:50

in society. To and and Nice is

12:52

like Emily Holiday. I mean I think

12:55

it was made. It. Was

12:57

made it with very. Kind of

12:59

posting fun but at the same time

13:01

not being nasty was never mind times

13:04

He also I think we've changed our

13:06

with Iraq. When

13:08

I was playing a transvestite

13:10

on the Definition of the

13:13

Summer Dresses cross dresses classed.

13:17

As now it's own

13:19

boss transistors general wiser

13:22

without. Struggling

13:25

with their gender identity which is

13:27

not respecting. So it's

13:29

quite. You know is is worth

13:31

keeping an eye on. What

13:34

was Hollywood doing to stick with it

13:36

was just seems to be there before.

13:43

The game and circuses. Gets was

13:45

on you know ebony our kids because

13:47

giving up away or over compensating of

13:49

or lox what is that it was

13:51

bucks you know with all our hearts

13:54

as a fellow well I. Quite.

13:57

Fun. Celebrated. You wanted spend on

13:59

that. with a lot of funny characters. But

14:02

I think we would represent, if you were

14:04

doing a video about someone's

14:07

transgender, that's different, isn't it?

14:09

But that is, she's not

14:12

transgender, she's trans

14:14

Westside. Okay. I'm

14:17

not trans. I think there's a really different things,

14:19

and certainly the perception of it 20 years ago

14:21

was, it

14:23

was on pencil cases and stuff like that. But

14:26

I think people had really thought it was really

14:28

kind of worrying in some way. It

14:30

would spin off pencil cases. It

14:33

would be a situation where you'd get some

14:35

lunch boxes and stuff like that. People would

14:37

go, you know, so that's it. So

14:39

some sort of attitudes have changed. But I

14:42

mean, most people don't worry about

14:45

this kind of stuff because they've got other

14:47

stuff to think about, worry about. I

14:50

think it opens a more general thing of

14:53

like, from the past that

14:55

we now, you know, we

14:57

wouldn't quite be going that, but what are we going

14:59

to do? Are we going to edit every movie? Are

15:01

we going to, I mean, we

15:04

just drive ourselves mad. I remember what's growing

15:06

up, you know, in the 1780s and my

15:08

dad was really into that Humphrey Bogart movies

15:11

that we watched and sort of old Bond

15:13

movies and stuff. The way that women are

15:16

treated in movies from, well, the past 30s,

15:18

40s, 50s, 60s, 70s is really different. And

15:22

I remember I found things

15:25

jarring, you know, Humphrey Bogart starts walking

15:27

across the page and it's pretty jarring.

15:31

But what are we going to do? Are we going to edit those,

15:33

take some press movies, edit

15:35

those movies, fill up their time? And

15:38

I think you can, you mainly

15:40

can only really understand color

15:43

art in the context of

15:45

this time, unless it's completely timeless for

15:47

the reason. Like it doesn't have, it's not the

15:49

bad, you know, modern life in any

15:51

way. And

15:54

it tells us about, Paul is interesting,

15:56

you know, Charles Dickens tells us

15:58

about I

16:01

was so. On. And

16:04

so. It's a magic

16:06

get through Charles Dickens. A

16:09

Screen Loins Reforms worker we would

16:11

use big wouldn't do that. Now

16:13

you know. A farm

16:15

numerous with the price of and

16:18

any this kind of thing isn't

16:20

it will lead up to dismantle.

16:22

Everything that ever happens often depicts

16:25

is it's house and then in

16:27

five years' time without to do

16:29

it again because advisement he could

16:31

be some different country and up.

16:34

A. New man

16:36

I use and with the pool. I

16:39

certainly didn't bring it up because I dislike

16:41

the Bbc has to do next next year

16:43

going through your conscience about things that I

16:45

I loved every second. but I can see

16:48

the context and I think that these children's

16:50

books will have an element of timelessness to

16:52

them mean and probably Roald Dahl and you

16:54

can criticize to probably things and Roald Dahl

16:57

the people would look at and who I

16:59

don't know about that I mean Astrochimp which

17:01

you're about to launch to. And. I

17:04

think you coming to South Africa soon

17:06

to produce? Yep. Yep. this idea to

17:08

the book is coming out of up

17:10

a couple of reasons I'm yet to

17:12

rip: Yeah, because of the specials. feed

17:14

off of guys. Get

17:17

the book first it was going

17:19

to talk about guess what she

17:21

really did on I'd honestly ah

17:23

so that's exciting and on thought

17:26

that it's happening because effect the

17:28

medical professional give kids generally of

17:30

new book yeah as soon as

17:32

i served my. Second first, well

17:34

I mean the reason I bring it

17:36

up is also because they would probably

17:39

be some kind of animal rights activists

17:41

I'm with some lunatic fringe. And

17:43

personality he would say well you know you're

17:45

actually drawing and some terribly cruel things are

17:47

we? since all these animals distaste once and.

17:50

The. Idea is. That. All of them. You.

17:52

Know kind of gets together in space and do

17:54

things. Which. is my book

17:56

that there was still alive but

17:58

i mean I mean, I've not

18:01

really heard of that. I

18:03

mean, the last animals that had sustained

18:05

was 1948. And,

18:09

that's when they were blind. And

18:11

they wouldn't be alive now anyway. But

18:16

again, it's like a fantasy.

18:18

I just think, I

18:20

mean, I think people thought it was, it's

18:24

sad that these animals died

18:26

today, cold or hunger. I

18:28

mean, it is sad. But

18:31

I'm not representing that. I'm saying

18:34

it's like Star Wars in Spain.

18:36

Sorry, it's like Star Wars

18:38

with animals. And I've created

18:41

new names, new identities for the characters,

18:43

and they've also done a lot. So, I'm

18:45

not really getting into the morality of sending

18:47

a chimp or a dog into Spain. But

18:51

I'm just writing a fantasy

18:53

where that is the starting point. Do

18:56

you think that the kids need

18:59

to be persuaded to read

19:01

now because all these devices have made

19:03

things a lot more busy, and

19:06

there are so many other options, and you

19:08

know, there's animation and there's video. And a

19:10

lot of parents, I suppose, just plopped their

19:12

kids in front of some device. And there's

19:15

a world of real excitement

19:17

in literature, especially in

19:19

kids' books that activate the imagination. There's a

19:21

magic to that that you just don't get

19:23

from a screen. Oh,

19:25

I completely agree. Yeah, because I think with books,

19:28

you have to work, you have to think, you

19:30

paint the images in your head. But

19:32

it's also a more intimate experience

19:35

because it's just the writer and

19:37

the reader having this communication with

19:39

each other. And

19:43

so, it is a special thing. I

19:45

think it is hard to get kids to read, but I

19:47

would say the biggest thing is trying

19:50

to get kids to read for pleasure. Because

19:53

if you, you know, we all had to

19:55

read books in school, and you know, if

19:57

that was taught well, it would be interesting.

20:00

Great teacher so we and I

20:03

read thanks to play on on

20:05

lock clicks last. You.

20:07

Know off it was it all happened so

20:09

decides with some hot chocolates that he. Bought

20:12

a life of a sweat. Bath.

20:16

And slight digress was that if your

20:18

child. Wants. To put a pick

20:20

up a book or across the whole war

20:22

com or whatever. That's. A

20:25

great length as they a book

20:27

to read. they'll read ah my

20:29

the to don't read his chong

20:31

tile somewhere that I. Just.

20:34

Miss out on some option on the

20:36

so much information in this time and

20:38

invokes the arm and on the way

20:40

books work is a difference whether the

20:42

not a story or to be better

20:44

isabelle something else going on. In

20:48

the way to assume it's so

20:50

I ah that's why I see

20:52

really is my as my mission.

20:55

Which. Is to get kids read it on

20:57

for pleasure. You. Know why I don't

20:59

regard these books a notes they wealth

21:01

one like was credited with his finisher.

21:03

I do my best to make them.

21:06

It's funny. You.

21:08

Put mention lights I feel

21:10

like similar those schools two

21:12

kids are realize that. I'm

21:15

for game cube reached is it

21:17

is a big deal and so.

21:20

I. Gotta think it's fun to have books

21:22

that are just there to has tanked

21:24

and get and get kids to read

21:27

on them when they're really what they

21:29

did with Michael's Maybe they want to

21:31

move on to things that are you

21:33

know might be considered so intellectual. or

21:35

the trees somewhere in that grave on.

21:39

You. And

21:42

also. I like to watch

21:44

you know, three five films and plane

21:47

itself causes of. I also really like

21:49

watching Ankara. So. As

21:52

sometimes you're. In the food for. You.

21:55

Know so an added women from an intellectual

21:57

and sometimes you're in the mood for something.

22:00

Gonna make you laugh. but

22:02

Sawyer I got. A

22:04

lot sure if you just need to

22:07

scope our my child's now we know

22:09

this book discusses of literature and then

22:11

they never gonna read something on against

22:13

the minimum was was on the reasons.

22:16

Why we are mean, have you read so

22:18

the city books and he replied you know

22:21

history the third wrong and then says he

22:23

third class you were in the mood for

22:25

something else When you are you gonna We.

22:28

Have none of. Constant. With

22:30

does to Jansky going to give yourself a little

22:32

bit of as are on welfare center and you're

22:34

gonna plan or I mean the thing is I

22:36

think he just got to be. mindful,

22:39

That you can seminal kids ever

22:41

suits are going to reading to

22:43

shows the whatever it is is.

22:46

Is it's boring spot? And

22:49

I didn't have great teach school.

22:51

He spots Shakespeare but it was

22:53

one or two approaches would cost

22:56

our whole swathe. the up on

22:58

I'd look around and I see

23:00

boys in my closet wrote was

23:02

go before he sought shame that

23:04

this is looking back in the

23:07

case there was night that would

23:09

be being taken since it's a

23:11

concise future the number one big

23:13

they would never wants to in

23:15

their lock. On I stand.

23:19

Up sizing up and trucks

23:21

others just like a chore

23:23

to them. perhaps? Ah,

23:26

a plaster. Kept. Trying

23:31

to like problems. Or

23:33

as. Dot.

23:38

On we. Should you? Can't

23:40

depend on in I'm trying to

23:43

or voicing something. Now. In the

23:45

boys address was like dogs do

23:47

with an issue that are interesting

23:50

and serious and you know responsible

23:52

way just to go against school.

23:55

But. It's same time because have some fun

23:57

of have laughter in it. doesn't have

23:59

some. It's

24:01

not just an issue. Is a

24:04

story where this issue emerges from the

24:06

story. And so I

24:08

think that's how. A

24:10

soda? How. Are

24:13

you know about that? Bass Good web

24:15

approaches writing for any. Especially

24:18

children. To service, try

24:20

to do some kind of serious an

24:22

interesting for the same time making so

24:24

still and tiny otherwise you're not going

24:26

to get. It

24:28

is. It's difficult to write these books and and what's

24:30

the process? I mean isn't quite a lot of to

24:32

and fro with editing or is it actually be you

24:34

have is the I mean there's a lot of there's

24:37

a lot of work as I mean. The.

24:39

Edits: You work with an editor and

24:41

then the first we get the big.

24:45

Do with stores Carrots are all

24:47

sorts of things. never those gets

24:49

more and more restart that they

24:52

just become a grammatical errors or

24:54

law but ah I love doing

24:57

here. I think getting started on

24:59

and you store it is hard.

25:02

Because. You think? Oh

25:04

you like? you're looking at amounts again all

25:06

rock climber. You cannot buy

25:08

anything yet and he doesn't really

25:10

know. If you plan

25:13

things yet power to sign up for

25:15

story is book. Yeah. Put

25:17

into action yeah just know is necessary

25:19

in a while and sound like a

25:22

chore which is one of the. Officers

25:25

were always love to write a book, but

25:27

that never started. One. I like

25:29

how to get back to the de

25:31

salvo for the same time. You just

25:33

have to stop are the ones who

25:35

never get rid. Of but

25:38

I know I plan on the

25:40

story. I bibles notes or just

25:42

read the murder mystery. The.

25:44

Kids are plan that out

25:47

and Meds detail. Because.

25:49

I have to know the clocks.

25:52

Gonna watch. Christians are attacked lot

25:54

like ours. Twisters seek rain or

25:56

snow you desire. Giraffes is got

25:58

there. Yeah.

26:01

You just gotta create a very intricate

26:03

as or like a house calls were

26:05

you know we we we know with

26:07

with surprise that will half of that

26:09

read but it still makes sense. Off

26:11

with so ah. says.

26:16

He ah ha nice. you see how

26:18

it is about half the length apply

26:20

was a quick behalf of the actual

26:22

book you know to me like at

26:24

a loss of word treatments and I

26:27

wanted to make sure that was completely

26:29

rice and wife or council. Yeah. My.

26:31

Because insurgents that could. He also gets

26:34

each house. I go to

26:36

write this. realize how things. Will.

26:40

Makes you appreciate Agatha Christie rice

26:42

and he rousing. Amazing.

26:45

I mean, probably pretty interesting when

26:47

I'm when I watch them mercy

26:49

on the Orange Express one's gifts

26:51

as a person. But Sean Connery's

26:53

you. Potency

26:57

I was I

26:59

was were absolutely.

27:01

Bamboozled, By adults. Are

27:08

also the fact. That she did just walk, walk,

27:12

Out of my. Billie. Hundred

27:14

books or something and you don't

27:16

wind up so you either great

27:18

idea is false, you had all

27:21

these twists. Flight is incredible. Extraordinary.

27:23

So yes I did have I'm

27:25

in always respects and hop. On

27:28

or I had more respect. Little slimy this is

27:30

hard work and was or she used to

27:32

do a couple a year. And

27:34

also I want to think about the way

27:36

people hot roy in the past where they

27:38

didn't have computers. Me: So you

27:40

know I mean I think of

27:42

space. For

27:45

both of whom are available that we

27:48

wouldn't have revised and and then I

27:50

get a good typing away. I

27:52

mean it's much harder on thing and

27:54

on the computer legal. So much more

27:56

is so easy to cut and paste.

27:59

James may. The word or something. I

28:01

snapped a throwaway the hope that it's. Yes,

28:05

So I'm really glad. A sit ups

28:07

fire. Escapes from high school.

28:09

The Iso, The Manuscript, The

28:11

Jolly With Chocolate Factory or

28:13

and it is and Manuscripts

28:15

serves me well.grid this he

28:18

lived and. I'm he.

28:20

And the last minute change. He.

28:23

Changed. In.

28:26

The ambulances were really cool with

28:28

boost confidence. And use of

28:30

the last minute he must but a

28:32

better idea but he has to go

28:35

through the whole of the minded squares

28:37

of ourselves with was com thirds the

28:39

size of after the region and life

28:41

in a little our own Columbus. Yeah

28:44

now to take the like ten

28:47

seconds you know point replies given

28:49

a boxer can play. It

28:51

outside the contracts and. Display

28:53

interesting. Ah the different

28:56

Did you know the technique or

28:58

just makes me think how difficult

29:00

it must be on also is

29:02

quite interesting Rem I did he

29:04

he was writing these. These chapters

29:06

would come out. In

29:08

kind of weekly or monthly publication.

29:12

Yeah. And some. Oh.

29:16

So. You know I'm not sure what was you

29:18

as is already had. You

29:20

know you from his office immediately

29:22

went along quite an interesting way.

29:24

Thrive without. You having finished

29:26

the whole thing and them putting out

29:28

good are just interesting. I

29:32

wonder with with people like Arthur Conan

29:34

Doyle because they used Will Surrender periodic

29:36

into the you know to these that

29:38

these little inserts in the newspaper and

29:40

I often wonder if they had the

29:43

plan. As. A very staunch as

29:45

you have been We must have done without

29:47

murder mysteries because again with Sean Combs was

29:49

pretty twist or they can be at know

29:51

what beautiful Swiss. Itself,

29:54

it's and trouble. Men: Are

29:56

going to having a drink and being hung

29:58

over and forgetting what the. That's when you

30:00

are obese. be all for what I

30:03

mean are as is. just thought I

30:05

sort of magical will be the most

30:07

outspoken. You're

30:09

just going to waste. My

30:12

eyes. I. Find out who

30:14

I don't want this. Hope it's because

30:16

West types. Of

30:19

things because laptops.

30:23

And I'm excited to read it, but I'm animals.

30:25

I did. You coming to South Africa is your

30:27

first time. He. Is

30:29

my first time I went

30:32

to Johannesburg of. Us

30:34

he was about twelve years ago. On.

30:38

Me and. Ah

30:40

lowery became my what we

30:43

revised by out job to

30:45

go as far as. Certainly.

30:48

Quoted like. Twenty friends

30:50

with go to. This was. An

30:53

elk again. joy. Of.

30:56

Did his name in the bigger it's what?

30:58

local. It's ah, visiting.

31:02

Yeah. When one the point is is putting me

31:04

on a safari with it I'm sure. Where

31:08

people have a universe of each. It was

31:10

really funny when I'm being such a bird

31:12

in got we've got burgeoning good time for

31:14

me, think. It's

31:18

wow wow those nobody's the

31:20

geography either which was never

31:22

only place you got apples.

31:24

And bananas. Great pictures. I'm

31:28

really excited! Asked got

31:30

caught. A

31:33

hunting and sad end of the most mind blowing

31:35

cookies when I go to a country but a

31:37

habit. Of. Your. Number

31:40

given up for this is meeting people

31:42

on a plans with you that. Ah,

31:49

Knows how many. Kids and

31:51

Spangle Quite emotional.mason Universal.

31:53

It was amazing. Ah,

31:57

You know, to very thrilling. It's it's

31:59

it's. It probably even more

32:01

pleasurable for me. to me, that than

32:03

that, they might have. Made. Make

32:05

because it's just I just er yes

32:08

as such a rails within your stories.

32:10

Me so much. Sun.

32:12

And I mean, if you know sixty

32:15

five languages across the globe, that's cool

32:17

too. I'm in the only time I

32:19

could name spotlight. A

32:22

compelling many people could. could they

32:24

must. They were like other purposes

32:27

of languages. ah I am you

32:29

know say. I have

32:31

about Rocky that it's It's

32:33

amazing because it's also interesting

32:36

that. Ah, You.

32:38

Know that it's on a cultural differences

32:40

don't keeps getting away. Like on told

32:42

me that. Like.

32:44

Us. so. I

32:49

Isabel steam the crown

32:51

jewels town. Is

32:55

about. Strikes.

32:57

Com. Like

32:59

all these things, I would imagine that. His

33:02

choice. Of

33:05

either visiting. it's very

33:08

different circumstances rating system

33:10

that. Ah, the and

33:12

yet the story so popular

33:14

imagination so it's very very

33:16

pleased. And send tested

33:19

I do have. I have world's worst children

33:21

three in front of me and I. I

33:23

can't help thinking that they must be some.

33:25

Pussy stage mom somewhere is always do this thing

33:27

that children for you as you pass them on

33:30

the on the the tube or something and tries

33:32

to sort of push them in front of you

33:34

to be tended to. the next month of human

33:36

with you is very they go looks. Authentic

33:42

activity. Jk Rowling know for

33:45

millionaires, you second federal. Whose.

33:49

Kids sometimes those your name and occupation

33:51

is very sweet. Ip is gonna come

33:53

up. And

33:56

read the books and it's very,

33:58

very sweet treats that is. The

34:00

and and yet you know kids are also

34:02

so honest. If they tell you they like

34:04

something, they really do. What? I think

34:06

as a as a grown up I think about like. Oh,

34:09

this is just patients was a

34:11

price on which. I

34:14

don't enjoy H One. Nine

34:17

hundred while I'm still reading. Yeah, not

34:19

really. That was half an acre. And

34:22

then I think we finish. What?

34:25

I wasn't enjoying it. I read it

34:27

because I thought it was. You know

34:29

why I heard it was amazing the

34:31

i just get from of the kids

34:33

with a life of in it immediately

34:35

stop he then goes. They're.

34:37

Not going to waste their time on something. they

34:40

really bad. My. Of unless

34:42

that forced. An

34:45

Outsider and So Yeah is right

34:47

up with the Gap to brought

34:49

them imagination very quickly. You need

34:51

to make sure that every end

34:53

of every chapter there's a little

34:55

hope for hims. Keep reading. Ah

34:58

man you have you really need to understand

35:00

the called lose them the of these the

35:02

focus is he do that the just going

35:04

it the wrong with. The

35:08

Narrative: You don't want the idea that your

35:10

votes against giving up with your bones. And

35:13

event they do, they'll never win because other

35:15

one. Will you

35:17

are doing God's work Then my

35:19

friend and and lament only given

35:21

me hope. God's work fine. I'm

35:24

Sean Mcmanus. I think I think

35:26

making children imagine. Is. Truly

35:28

bringing magic back into the world.

35:30

And whether it's you, take everything.

35:33

All. Road Dahl and, and you know, if

35:35

bless you for it, I mean, I don't

35:37

have children, black good two nephews, use of

35:39

your stuff and for. Yeah.

35:41

Mentioned at the start of this the a friend of

35:44

mine who I actually just message to for. The.

35:46

Nc and said. it's

35:48

being david walliams and she said oh my

35:50

god she got five children the poor woman

35:53

and she said all of her five children

35:55

have grown grown up on a diet of

35:57

your books and they they only have billion

36:01

which one is it? Belinair boy. Belinair

36:03

boy and I said to

36:05

him, we'll find out. I'll bring you another

36:08

two or three and she's just delighted. So

36:10

you are spreading kinds of good and

36:13

keep children reading. I think it's just marvelous. Looking forward

36:15

to having you in South Africa David and thank you

36:17

for your time today. Thank

36:30

you.