0:00

Eric, it's nearly two years since I

0:03

came in here to interview last.

0:06

Would you say you're on track in terms of how

0:08

you thought it would be and what these two years

0:11

have been like? You mentioned two years

0:13

ago, where have you been? It was a

0:15

difficult time at the time. It was a difficult

0:17

start. Yeah, it was. Sure, but then I think

0:19

we had a great season. We

0:23

played, I think, very good football, very proactive

0:25

football. We

0:27

went into two finals. We won

0:29

one final. We were 13 in

0:32

the league. Also

0:34

in Europe, we had some decent results,

0:36

like we beat Barcelona. So there we

0:39

were at that

0:41

time in the summer, right on track, as you call

0:43

it. But then, of course,

0:45

the season. It's not the way we want

0:47

it and that it will go. That is

0:49

also clear. Let's

0:52

go back to the start of this season.

0:54

Obviously, it was quite positive. Champions

0:57

League gets two finals, win a

0:59

trophy. Why

1:01

has this club struggled in recruitment to get the

1:03

players that the manager wants for the last 10

1:05

years? Not just with you, but for the last

1:07

10 years. When you first came, you wanted Franky

1:10

De Jong and you didn't get Franky

1:12

De Jong. He was your one player you wanted. Why

1:14

has this club struggled to get those players in? It's

1:19

always difficult to say about 10 years and

1:21

it would be good to do research.

1:23

But I think this

1:26

club can only have outstanding plays.

1:28

That's true. Because the

1:32

expectations are so high. Manchester

1:35

United is the biggest

1:37

or maybe second, third biggest club

1:40

in the world worldwide, the

1:43

highest fan base. So expectations will

1:46

always be there. Everyone has an opinion about

1:49

Manchester United and it can

1:51

only be that there are

1:53

outstanding players. There

1:55

are outstanding players who

1:57

have all skill sets.

2:00

that is the physical,

2:03

especially also the mental skills that they

2:05

need to perform, to contribute, because we

2:07

have to win every game. And

2:10

there's, we

2:13

always accept expectation around every game from

2:15

us, so you can only fulfill the

2:17

expectation when you have those outstanding

2:20

players. But obviously, now we, as

2:22

you said, in

2:24

the last decade, but also in the period,

2:26

we couldn't always get the players we wanted,

2:29

but then you have to build, and then

2:31

you have

2:34

to accept that you get

2:36

talents instead of already

2:38

the players who are already

2:40

proofed in the path. And we

2:42

had some choices made

2:45

with talents like Rasmus Holland,

2:48

and I can see a

2:50

striker who already proofed it, who

2:53

we wanted to shine, but we couldn't get

2:55

it. And then we went to

2:57

Rasmus, but where Rasmus is a talent. You

2:59

know what? It's about Hurricane. Yeah,

3:01

yeah, but it's not, but

3:05

Hurricane, you know, you get 30 goals. And

3:07

I think Rasmus, he will

3:09

get there. But he needs time. It's

3:12

not fair to assess

3:16

him the same as Hurricane,

3:19

because, and he would, I would never

3:23

say compare to plays because they

3:25

are very different. But with Rasmus

3:27

Holland, we get, I think, the

3:29

highest potential on the striker position

3:32

last summer, and we are very happy. We

3:34

are very happy with him. But also,

3:36

you know, he needs time to adapt,

3:40

and we

3:42

are very pleased that he showed

3:45

his capacity, his

3:47

scoring goals, and

3:49

he has a very good play where

3:51

he scored many games after

3:53

he showed it before and also after

3:55

he had some physical issues, which is

3:58

normal for a young player. coming

4:01

up. But of course it has

4:04

a negative impact on the team result and

4:07

that is what you have to accept. But

4:09

then you go back to the friends and

4:11

then you go back to opinion makers.

4:14

They don't understand or they don't want

4:16

to understand this but they only see.

4:18

And that is also how Manchester

4:21

United can judge.

4:24

They only see the result.

4:27

But we need time. So you

4:29

think, obviously if Harry Kane comes to Manchester

4:31

United it's 30 goals, if Rasmus Huyland comes,

4:33

a really talented young player, he's done well

4:35

in the last few months. You

4:37

think it's now a case of having just a bit of patience.

4:39

Obviously you've had injuries this season but you think that it's on

4:42

track but you just need to let the young players grow. Gannacho,

4:45

Huyland, Coby Beynum.

4:47

You think it's getting the players

4:49

back fit and actually letting

4:51

those young players grow. It's more of a

4:53

process because the club have

4:55

not brought in the complete article, the

4:57

finished player if you like. I

5:00

think that's the truth. And

5:03

then you have to accept that

5:05

the process is going slower and

5:08

you can't then expect it. You're straight,

5:10

you compete for titles

5:13

in Champions League and in Premier League. I'm

5:16

interested because I've spoken a lot about the

5:18

structure at this club over 10 years in

5:21

terms of the sporting structure. But you were

5:23

previously, you were a sporting

5:25

director yourself at Utrecht, but you also were at

5:27

Bayern Munich where you have

5:29

such a strong sporting presence at the

5:31

top of the club. At Ajax you

5:33

worked very closely with Mark Overmars, with

5:35

Edwin Mandersar, very strong sporting structure. Can

5:38

you just explain to me the differences that you

5:40

found here in the last two years between your

5:42

experiences at those clubs and this club? I

5:46

have to say I worked

5:49

very good with the

5:52

leadership in this club. But

5:55

it's fair to say it's important for a club.

5:58

And Now of course we have a change. And

6:00

the I'm optimistic into the future

6:03

the census will be right. but

6:05

I can say anything negative about

6:07

how was before. He

6:10

think the was the same level

6:12

of support in terms of recruitment.

6:14

The football values that were in

6:16

the soap at Months United is

6:18

were I have some. by an

6:20

awful thought. We

6:22

were building and it will not

6:25

be fair to judge those people

6:27

about the current season and because

6:30

our many things out were against

6:32

us and this the city the

6:34

injuries that but that is the

6:37

way. You. Fifteenth and you

6:39

have to take that as as a

6:41

group but also was leadership. As a

6:43

manager you're affected because the have to

6:46

think that was both a responsibility them

6:48

out was at the moment because of

6:50

a of the new owners of command

6:53

and have a seat in originals less

6:55

the Ceo John Murtha is less the

6:57

sporting director last night the Cfl and

7:00

I'm Patrick Sue the interim Ceo lasts

7:02

like they such been moved to the

7:04

firm position and chaser wilcox his comments

7:07

that must create on swimming. Uncertainty.

7:09

For you in serves of just stability of that

7:12

of your the manager obviously of the same and

7:14

you're trying to deliver on the pitch I was

7:16

it been last few months. Actually

7:19

I had the conditions always to

7:21

work and from the first moment

7:23

I came in I felt the

7:26

truth I felt I felt the

7:28

backing hang from from both. Need

7:30

assistance and so I can complain

7:32

about this. So

7:36

I don't. I

7:39

don't go to do that out with

7:41

I know and. I

7:43

feel a little bit. That

7:46

to to say this and talking I've

7:48

written about a process have because me

7:50

look at a we want to perform

7:53

for then you want to bring the

7:55

levels two days and that is everyone

7:57

to destroy but i suited accurate sense

7:59

of everyone. To perform and

8:01

one to satisfy all the fence

8:03

fail and we know what of

8:05

the miles on we know what

8:08

the send us are understand its

8:10

are Sophie's. I am

8:12

bringing trophies and that is what

8:14

this group sensor or our own

8:16

sauce he specifically because when when

8:18

Jason wilcox hasbro since. The.

8:22

Media. Quote was a he's hit

8:24

is coming to build a game model. Was

8:27

his job thought that was what was described

8:29

and of our thoughts himself is that because

8:31

they my current a model or they don't

8:33

think there is a gay model had a

8:35

game model is whereby the first team play

8:37

the same mayak so the very best to

8:40

this with if the same principles really right

8:42

way through the club what did you make

8:44

of it when stuff so of announcement came.

8:47

I understand first place had their

8:49

that is the Simpsons is to

8:51

job of a technical director and

8:53

a boat and mint on the

8:55

is a game would lawyer elbow

8:57

what do you think why are

8:59

the kinds of financial and problem

9:01

I know how to come up

9:03

and that is because had it

9:05

was one of my my top

9:07

center of my object is and

9:09

my my task I phone to

9:11

previously the city's a a to

9:13

bring that in and that was

9:15

already going they. Were already a

9:17

proofing academy and you can see

9:20

that as a day one the

9:22

as it could be a novel

9:24

again during your trip and also

9:27

the teams in the academy at

9:29

a i also know the the

9:31

consensus and that is a structure

9:33

and the was lay out a

9:36

couple of years ago and now

9:38

you see some reference from it

9:40

and the best revenue from the

9:42

sea of it's coming up and

9:45

Something People are plays. Into first

9:47

like Gabi and like the much so you're

9:49

You're saying that the game model is already

9:51

here in the club was produce a young

9:53

players in law says is already a good

9:56

and of game model to see months United

9:58

Office misprint you bring in it. People

10:00

pay players who are as

10:02

failure on and know already

10:04

our international and the out

10:06

of and not playing for

10:08

the west coast nations england

10:11

and attention and they also

10:13

it in the quite. Good.

10:15

Level two of the city off.

10:17

one of the best place in

10:20

this momentum and in Indonesia and

10:22

for good for both Class nurses

10:24

I would say So they bring

10:26

in. The

10:28

level required would we need

10:31

more from says place and

10:33

because proposed calling for a

10:35

tricky and to developments or

10:37

confrere tricky so you can't

10:39

stand still us to to

10:41

make new improvements over time

10:43

so that their that function.

10:46

As. A cyclical director. Working

10:49

on the game model and as has

10:51

the right choice but database here have

10:53

made united and approve is there as

10:55

well as by bringing Don't Plays out

10:57

of your first few meetings been with

11:00

the in your Steam I'm Jason arrives

11:02

I did Jason and Ninety Five Ninety

11:04

Six how the meetings be with him

11:06

in says A discussing the so of

11:08

the style of How Did Some moves

11:10

Forward how's our those issue meetings gone

11:12

on the initial meetings a boot and

11:15

of course with with Ios that. I

11:17

had several meetings from that a

11:19

burial and Jason have first came

11:22

in last week and and now

11:24

we have to to take things

11:26

quickly and own because the summer's

11:29

coming and added so very important

11:31

for years of course his comment

11:33

was going unnoticed window and then

11:36

of course me want to make

11:38

the next step into i was

11:40

caught and also to make make

11:43

plans and to create an environment

11:45

that is that. And

11:47

it's a avoid. This

11:50

year's problems in this it was a

11:52

lot of people he referred the said

11:55

about from the style of the first

11:57

team, the season. What. Are

11:59

you. The style of play this is. forget

12:01

the results or the the goals or whatever.

12:04

A yeah through the style of play the

12:06

season. Sometimes people say what is the style

12:08

that we're trying to achieve. To

12:11

the frustrate you that. And.

12:15

For says it is not the

12:17

rightward of them because I'm or

12:19

how realistic master and so the

12:22

year when acting already to make

12:24

you adjustment habits it's about but

12:26

end of the day when games

12:29

and for last year we found

12:31

a renewed to make afraid so

12:33

successful didn't and physio we wanted

12:36

to. Add to

12:38

make the next the met at the next step. And

12:40

there we brought in the people

12:43

who can opener from the back

12:45

and we brought in and a

12:47

dynamic midfielder would miss amount of

12:49

the dolphins and inches and be

12:51

brought in an effort goalscoring the

12:54

Russians whole New York and we

12:56

know needed to time and then

12:58

on for and we were quite

13:00

confident we be made. The. Right

13:03

and or our sources here and

13:05

we can make a next step

13:07

and but of course when old

13:09

ensues or something and he had

13:12

made so many changes and. Also

13:15

for some key positions like into

13:17

back for I. we've played know

13:19

forty seven games and we're sort

13:22

of communists in the back forth

13:24

and had one odds combinations or

13:26

based on sources made know how

13:28

often forced sources because the place

13:30

where inches We had a sent.

13:32

A house out and you can

13:35

almost no not imagine a bit

13:37

everyone knows west say a little

13:39

bit knowledge about football. And

13:41

they will know if a huge impact

13:44

and then. Personal

13:46

was for long periods. Was

13:49

while was injured so we

13:51

are so many issues and

13:53

see that and promptly. Always

13:55

believe. That you want to

13:57

places. And that effect.

14:00

but no one cares about. Fans

14:03

don't care about what the fans will see.

14:05

It's a successful team. It's a team that's

14:07

winning. And what we always

14:09

try to do, and I have to make,

14:12

I think, complementary team, they,

14:15

in every game, they went for it. They had

14:17

a spirit, and we

14:21

make the adjustments a little bit in our

14:24

way of play, because when you don't have to

14:26

left foot in

14:28

the center-back position, and on the left

14:30

side, the left foot-back position, you

14:32

have to make adjustments in the way

14:34

you want to play. When you don't

14:37

have the static in the middle position,

14:39

you have to make adjustments. And

14:41

so we did. And there

14:43

you still can see we

14:47

are not there where we want to be, not from

14:49

the way we want to play, but

14:51

the headlines. And they are still there

14:53

because we want to go from active, and

14:56

we want to go dynamic, and

14:58

also we want to play with a high line. And

15:00

that is what we always aim

15:02

for. And there you see also

15:05

this team, not

15:07

there where we want to be, but we have

15:09

made some improvements. We scored much

15:11

more goals after the winter

15:13

break, and also

15:16

we were more consistent. We

15:20

don't have so many defeats in 24.

15:22

We have only three defeats. We

15:25

draw too much. What we can do very good

15:27

is to put ourselves in a

15:29

winning position, but then of course

15:31

you have to draw to bring it over the

15:33

line. But then, I go

15:36

back to my previous point, when you have so

15:38

many changes in the back four, the

15:40

rules and principles, they are safe, but the

15:42

patterns are just not there. We

15:47

don't bring the results, and

15:50

we know that in the first place by

15:52

ourselves. All the injuries are in two

15:55

positions, mainly left-back and centre-back have

15:57

been the biggest problems. in

16:00

the last few months. Do you

16:02

know why? Is there any patterns? I mean you're

16:04

a detail, you'll know this. Are there any patterns

16:06

of why players are picking up the injuries? Because

16:08

all the left backs have been injured and the

16:10

centre backs. So you've been decimated

16:13

completely in the defence. Do

16:15

you know why that is? Is there an explanation

16:17

for it? You can think of. Of

16:21

course we do

16:23

research, but a

16:27

lot also has to do with just bad luck.

16:32

Of course, when you are

16:34

in a season, the results are not going

16:37

in a particular way. You will always see you get

16:39

more and you pick up more injuries than

16:42

in a season where Africa could go right.

16:45

But, and that is

16:47

how we always have seen

16:50

this. We are still there

16:52

in the season and we have four

16:54

games to go and we have a cup

16:56

final to play. And again,

16:58

we see players are returning and

17:01

so that gives us

17:03

a good mood into those four games

17:05

and also into that cup final. I

17:08

wanted to ask you about a step. You answered

17:10

the question maybe last season actually about, you were

17:12

asked about, your team at IX were

17:15

one of the most beautiful teams to watch, the way

17:17

they played football were amazing. But

17:19

you said you couldn't play that

17:21

style here. It always interested me

17:23

that, thinking about, because when Louis Vanhal

17:25

came to Manchester United, he played a

17:27

style that was, I would

17:30

say very IX Barcelona style.

17:34

Why could you not bring that style here? Why did

17:36

you feel like you couldn't play the style in

17:38

terms of the same style? Because

17:46

then you have to bring in players. So

17:49

then you will need a bit of recruitment. In the

17:51

recruitment you need the

17:53

players with those typical

17:56

assets and you

17:58

can't bring. player,

18:01

say, who is here, with

18:04

a typical style of play and

18:06

I don't want to

18:09

change his nature. So

18:12

Frankie the Young would have been allowed you more to play

18:14

this style maybe if it had been brought in a couple

18:16

of years ago? That would

18:18

have been Frankie the Young and Casa

18:20

Mero and they would really be

18:23

connected with each other and they

18:25

would be really complementary with

18:28

each other. Absolutely, but

18:31

that is a typical play if you want to play

18:33

the Ajax style, you need that

18:35

type of player. Just

18:38

in terms of the, I wanted to

18:40

ask you this about, I think

18:42

there's some 600 shots I've gone

18:44

in on the Manchester United goal and that is the

18:46

one thing that when I watch, I

18:49

think I can comment on with some sort of

18:52

level of understanding, obviously I was a defender, and

18:54

there's a couple of things. One is the

18:57

wide players when they're defending, for

18:59

me, I don't see at times them

19:02

work hard enough back. I think

19:04

when I was a fullback I needed my wide

19:06

players to come back in and be connected, connected

19:09

to me but also connected in midfield. And

19:11

then the other one is that sometimes Casa

19:14

Mero becomes isolated in midfield with

19:16

space either side of him. Can

19:18

you just talk to us a little bit about that in terms

19:20

of the details? For me when I look

19:22

at it, obviously the back foot is a problem because it doesn't

19:24

push up so much because it changes a lot etc. But

19:27

Casa Mero being isolated and the wide players

19:29

not connecting back in, is that something that

19:32

you look at and think what

19:34

they're doing? Why is that

19:36

happening? Because there have been too many shots on

19:38

the goal, you

19:40

know that obviously. I

19:43

see the stance. It's

19:45

clear and I already reported

19:48

about the many changes in the back

19:50

foot. So one

19:53

thing is, the last season

19:56

I had with that consistent back foot and

19:58

we did the same. and

20:01

we have to mostly cheat from the whole Premier

20:03

League. And so

20:06

if everyone is fit,

20:08

they can bring

20:10

it, and they can

20:12

deliver the way we

20:14

want to defend. But it also has

20:16

to do something with the possession. And then I go

20:18

again, when you don't have to play from the back,

20:21

who are in the patterns, when you

20:23

don't have that left place

20:26

on the left side. Already you have to make

20:28

your adjustments, but change the way you

20:30

play, but change also your possession. And when you

20:32

have that possession,

20:34

also you will concede more shots, obviously.

20:37

So there are some reasons for

20:39

why this happens. But

20:47

I don't think it has anything

20:49

to do with the

20:53

way of play we want to play, because

20:56

that proves last season where we

20:58

mostly cheat in the whole Premier

21:00

League. Have you

21:02

thought about changing, about

21:04

going more pragmatic, more

21:06

defensive, maybe 4-5-1, 4-4-2,

21:09

playing a little bit

21:11

lower, not pushing

21:13

as high? Because obviously the wide players

21:15

play high, Rasmus plays high, you

21:17

have Bruno and Kobe sometimes that will

21:19

push on to the... Do you think

21:22

sometimes, have you thought about maybe bringing them back,

21:24

because the back four is changing, or do you think, no,

21:26

I have to carry on playing the same way? Of

21:29

course, we thought about this, but that's

21:32

exactly the point. So one

21:34

of my objectives, one of also

21:36

my task was here, to bring

21:38

in a proactive way of play.

21:41

And the players will return,

21:43

so if you then adjust

21:46

and going in a very defensive style, it doesn't fit

21:48

to the players we already have. If

21:53

You then don't get the results, then

21:55

everyone will lose the confidence. When

22:00

the players are back and you

22:02

have to return back at the

22:04

mood the pro active and you

22:06

a sorcerer many time and in

22:08

the same time pay you see

22:11

is a proactive style. How.

22:13

We view proceeds improved. Our second

22:15

family scored more goals and we

22:17

were more consistent. Let's say we

22:19

are sitting in front of for

22:22

we have all between since. And.

22:24

Then see me making improvements.

22:27

not enough. Ah, and. Once

22:30

again we know that we know how

22:32

what of the months and offenders and

22:34

the want to. Look

22:36

at that the winds so we have to

22:39

make the next step out A poodle was

22:41

also vinnie position with them for being it

22:43

over the line sometimes game some watching at

22:45

the you must be going through like this

22:47

to sometimes you're watching it was think that

22:50

play really well at an all the sudden

22:52

they'll have twin cities like this is what

22:54

happened i you like the on the touchline

22:56

sometimes thinking forced to stop them he also

22:58

Coventry is. Probably. The the

23:00

biggest example of that and last twenty

23:03

minutes against Coventry Books. In other games

23:05

it's be like that as a wise

23:07

the subjects fluctuation. Sometimes in games of

23:09

the outhouse you analyze the as a

23:11

coach that the majority the same all

23:14

what what you think, eyes and person

23:16

and we return to the same arguments.

23:18

It's like you need that. That.

23:20

Consistent back for and you need

23:23

that consistent theme, especially in this

23:25

state. Of the senses.

23:27

And food bring That's consistent

23:30

performance in and I see

23:32

that. The positive thing is

23:34

as you say, yeah we

23:36

can play in high levels

23:38

so the potential is indistinct

23:40

and now we have thought.

23:43

To to get more mature as a

23:45

T and if and when not all

23:47

the players are on board that be

23:49

that that the bring. And

23:52

this consistency and that is what we

23:54

have to enforce and. also

23:57

the do with some known players and we're reproach

23:59

don't and there's always

24:01

with young players that

24:03

they have to learn how

24:05

to bring consistent performances with the

24:08

same answer. They

24:10

need the experience and they only

24:12

get the experience by playing the games and

24:16

if they have the potential they will grow, they will pick

24:18

it up and on the long term

24:21

we will learn how to do this. In

24:23

the last few weeks I've noticed

24:26

that in the media

24:28

normally you're usually quite guarded, you

24:31

answer the questions but you come in and in the

24:33

last two or three weeks you've been a little bit

24:36

more proactive, a bit more aggressive.

24:38

Would you agree with that? Not aggressive, I think aggressive is

24:40

the wrong word. Is that

24:42

something that you've thought about that you

24:44

feel like you need to defend your

24:46

position because obviously the last... They're

24:49

not about me. We're

24:51

just annoying you. We're annoying you.

24:53

No, also but I have to

24:55

protect the team against

24:59

some other fairness. Once

25:02

again we can accept

25:07

this, we know the standards

25:09

and in the first place

25:11

we are not happy with this season but

25:14

also we know still we

25:17

can win the cup this season. So stay

25:19

positive in that perspective when we have

25:22

played games to go and

25:24

we feel players are returning. What

25:27

other fairness do you think do you see? Everything

25:31

is just negative but

25:36

as I tried to say, so

25:38

in attacking a

25:41

game we improved during the

25:43

cross-off decision. Some young

25:45

players are improving a lot and

25:50

that is

25:52

an unfair to tell that everything is

25:54

poor and bad and also

25:58

the young in

26:00

need time and to their best

26:02

levels and that they have the potential

26:05

that is what they

26:07

show in this season so that is the

26:09

positive and now yeah we

26:11

need a consistent team and

26:14

when we are that we are confident

26:16

we bringing more wins. Do

26:18

you feel like the whole season is comes

26:21

down to the Cup Final in terms of where you're at

26:24

now? Do you feel like that's how

26:26

you're thinking about it? I know you have a few

26:28

league games left but obviously you

26:30

know is the whole success

26:32

of this season for you the Cup Final? Well

26:35

we have two opportunities first

26:37

of all we have to defend our position in the

26:39

league and so that is one

26:41

focus point obviously and then the

26:43

second of course yeah we

26:46

go twice in two years

26:48

we go into an FA Cup Final which is

26:51

I would say it's a great

26:54

opportunity to win a

26:56

Cup to win a Cup again and and

26:59

Manchester United didn't play so often

27:02

twice in two years

27:05

in an FA Cup Final and especially

27:07

not in the last 10 years so

27:10

for this group of players it's a

27:12

great opportunity and we have

27:14

to take this opportunity. Do you feel that do

27:17

you feel like with Ineos coming in that like

27:20

everybody's under scrutiny there was a report this morning

27:22

in the newspaper and it was quite a strong

27:24

report so it was like one

27:26

that lots of them I got every player is for sale

27:29

you have seen that I imagine. Where

27:33

does that come from? How

27:36

many lines you have seen? This

27:38

is quite some type of line.

27:40

But how many I have seen

27:43

when I put all

27:45

the lines I

27:48

think I will I think

27:50

that I can bring up

27:52

thousand lines who are all

27:54

untrue and this is one of them. So

27:57

you have the belief in the players means it's it

27:59

seems strong story in terms of sort of like

28:01

you know now but

28:03

when I just tell you

28:06

that we have young

28:09

talentful players that would be when

28:12

I now tell you the opposite and

28:15

that doesn't doesn't

28:17

connect. What message do you offer

28:19

Manchester United fans about where you

28:22

are personally and where the

28:24

team are and what what they

28:26

should think about in the next few

28:28

weeks but also the next season. Why should they

28:30

be confident that something is going to

28:32

happen that we're going to get back to being Premier

28:34

League title winners in the next two or three seasons?

28:37

First of all they

28:39

know we are disappointed

28:42

as well and I think

28:45

they know we are frustrated as well and

28:47

I think everyone here and

28:49

we are down on the same boat and

28:52

but we know

28:55

also and that also even

28:57

this season we have shown in

29:00

games that we can also achieve high

29:02

levels and we can level

29:04

the top teams and

29:06

when everyone is on

29:09

board when we have the squad

29:12

available and then we

29:14

can form a team who is strong and who

29:16

compete with the best teams and

29:18

if we can make the next steps in

29:21

the transfer window then we can

29:23

step up to high levels and

29:26

we are quite confident where we are that

29:28

process and we are quite confident and we

29:30

will achieve that. It's great

29:32

to speak to you and all the best for the

29:34

rest of the season. You're welcome. In the

29:36

final. Good luck.