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gary
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v audio experience for
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, record when he says you're going as far south
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jersey i'm like i've got a decision
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sort of figure out as much as possible
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that i can give him sit about i want
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to hate on you for the nsc say especially
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given where the market is that right now by
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the time i got done wasn't a couple of ourselves
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with you i was like ours is
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there isn't an athlete ominous with a southern
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the creeps up on with our the own i was
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very impressed by the be friends thing because
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friends see the you actually have you road
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map like map real game wherever how you're going to
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send you to build the value of these
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in a long time with i don't have that a certain
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about almost any the other enemies of other conservative
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your homework the starts most see your point
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he probably
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walk in a bizarre which
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is an every book an interview i gave would
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you hire less a three month about ninety nine
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percent
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you can i get on either side
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of this
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the wanted mural on the flipside see a boy
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i'm also looking for people that live with me i'm
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a twenty five years in a row
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dang surf operating fucking
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entrepreneur what ,
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do i build actual businesses
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furious it is what it is you likely
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don't you it it's the truth i know how to operate
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which is why you felt that
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and actually knowing you and know how
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you operate it does kind of weird me out when
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i was certain youtube videos where they're talking about
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see like you're not going to say names
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because some people you know or have or have
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where but there's very very sammy
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personalities as it's a whole as as the disease
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the basically just be a huckster and just be selling
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some bullshit all the time i don't
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believe a lot of people understood that i've seen give you
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our time really understand the depth
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of how much real didn't
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mmm pathetic the that he'll point
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like if you're out there you have this i have
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this he was as if you're out there assessing
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today's society you're going to have you know
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shots fired at you on this ascetic
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when people decide suffixes and try to go out
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me that they haven't said sissy hours
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that somebody for hitting our across
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every see and i realized
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everybody sit on dwayne the rock johnson
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said he couldn't go to hollywood and make
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it happen he throws everybody
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who sit on martin lawrence when he front
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of the mark wahlberg had a food to
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do by an early on the rocks what
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, you buy i'm a a
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shares going for other com other i
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wasn't paying attention when you know when transition
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but his coffin on i think
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about the right seven heart and ryan reynolds
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sales in the same cells in my
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head which is are famous it's hard
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work
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the other one , percent
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on okay but so the big the big thing
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i dismissed as he gets some flowers month
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and was given
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for you early on when we
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could be south a musical not added to my home
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the world had
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, had big part of my first pass
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through with somebody
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asked
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the working for they try and make
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something happen to , amount of content
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interviews the way you interviewed like
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problems with the for a much of
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the fucking worked hard for
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his alma his felt like this felt
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like year for are finally realize
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like okay
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you've been doing this shit for a long ass
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time you met a lot of fucking money you can
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afford to pick up a week off here a week
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they're gone you know just in ,
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of just by the way that's
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disappointing that's makes me proud
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but none of them with a kid makes you have to consider
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that so you know was a lot of things
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and family a life of then you
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could lose a complex and looks up to
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be like fuck i don't want to end up with that things
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happen either way i did
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plenty of her so i , hard
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when i'm i'm i'm on the field i
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go hard for you know that
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someone in them by more money mean and i didn't
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know and i don't even know right now that you were
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going on for hours every day some day
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it was the amount of an output he was
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putting out and the interviews and was
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never thought of was even wouldn't even
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if you wanna make it as a ran not
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let me go ran a little work you
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put a worth a lot of people don't know a about
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of the go through the for a lot
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of work for a little while and that's fine everybody
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has different ambition everybody can
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handle thing when you put more
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suspect that said it would say for sure
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okay with of how did you separate
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yourself in a world where i
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think we both agree that ninety nine percent of and of
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these habits was to be sam's
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almost not even seeing new ones are the same
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race seeing you so how do you
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solve the ultimate question of this day and
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age was is like i'm in i'm iffy business but i'm
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not a spammer and i believe it says
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once are valuable and important things to communicate
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with audio i
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think this is really to i
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think most people try to convince and
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i believe in just having people better meaning
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in nineteen ninety eight when they knew
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it was gonna happen it's nineteen i saw it when i was the
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same with everybody
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so what about the internet the fabric and
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that's what happened
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what happened in 98 99-2000
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with paypal amazon and ebay they
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just, they
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just waited they
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were they were censored
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they'll be a right now that really think it's a building something
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new hope and they're getting caught up in the mccurry
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the got to suffer now with or something data
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work and pop of and twenty thirty seven
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and fate had told her you do not know
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how to build a business around intellectual
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property know saw
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i'm a lot of and has to do with realize access
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has to do with of them has to do
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with virtual accept
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and you're going ongoing
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more because my transformers g i
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joe my little pony arousal com
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and but there's a lot of we see the block
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chain most people don't even understand the block
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chain yet they don't really understand what's actually
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happening and
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the right because of with conversation
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the last the last
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the month had been anxious to me
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because i knew that
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the the haven't had as much as the concept
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as i put out see your point is
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people didn't hear that part
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so this on a thoroughly seen
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, market sort of lends itself of others
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bullshit bullshit the market for the
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healthy and the market in never
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how he managed overvalued was
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evaluated and open a new
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into the more series people series we
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think of anything people that looking
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for decided to successfully sure there's
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a time like this ,
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good to be
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when you when you're
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you're grasping
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at straws and get caught and it sucks
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just disney drops nfc's for
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you do mickey and donald and all
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this shit in star wars characters, and shit
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like if you see, disney and nintendo and
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all these big come,
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is your own all this amazing ivy if
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they drop all of their characters
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as entities is that a good thing
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or a bad thing for
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it's not aware of when
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i already know it's it when i
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don't need, i don't need disney
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or nintendo, or pokemon validation
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they've already been flirting with digital
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goods, a lot to begin with and
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most of all the world's abundant so
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even if they come in rightly deserve
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angley for what they've done for the last fifty will
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monster market share they should
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be like donald duck should
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fix you
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should be zelda
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should be and
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they've been a world
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the reason i'm here this
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is nobody is winning is coming out among
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the do not have a world where but doesn't it make
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the be friends seem a little less special exam
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years on how do you think the most interesting thing about the differences
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going to be that they were initially funded by on a c
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drop
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that whole former the anything
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, funny
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it is a give them a business her i realized
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the eighties up the school television for the bunch of
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the of the know for
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me will be to
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rescind my interpreter not a
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for business
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there are being thoughtful and will be but
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if i do
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need to do it's ,
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be relevant have anything
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else happening because people get a grip of
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about everything else interface a panda
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cub i need them not because of
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the timing
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with adam eve and i plan on
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doing the ship in twenty years though jerry
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be factored seems like
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it's not that big a deal that's that's a great thing for
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that i see right away that my preference
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i pay a lot that i wanted
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mickey mouse and hulk hogan
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to be and vince mcmahon and was
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i know there's a lot of shit
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that i'd have the that i want to say to the world but
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i recognize that zarifi me
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unlimited there's a lot of people are fuzzy
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there's a lot of people that will never fuck with me because i'm
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a single human being with certain communication
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style and i am who i am
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my two hundred seventy five characters
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i could push spoken to a , example
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i think most of the people's anxiety
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in this room and the world is because people
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don't wanna be a house house
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when you're not accountable to blame everybody else
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so for me i don't think that one hundred thousand
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times for the fact that i can make that so
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on into , extremely
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hot and seven seven
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now seventy also accountability school
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like i can fucking do fucking than
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that the i think about that one seven
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hundred percent or was a set of people
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have taken a row has been over the
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got last week or so and crypto margit
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what was your advice like the most of his skills
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he chased in his dreams or for a lot of
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people honestly they've been irresponsible only
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lose when only sell for
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sometimes you lose when you don't so thera although
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the luna holders hey signs three million dollars with
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a lunar he seems like a lawsuit itself see
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your point you know if you look at
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the entire markedly luna
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and i'm under educated parents is icing
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on the coin icing current
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the and then i really understand and a season
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the flexible said
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huddle but the currency but my understand
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for my part be friends with luna
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had about half of this has a promise
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that
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the
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the not me through and for one hundred
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percent of is hop his mother
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a lot of coins are out there
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that of the
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thing happens when the of
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what happened again i don't with
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the hot about shit i don't know so that my very
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far away headline meeting hypothesis
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at home but for the rap
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for the crew that are getting smashed the
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salon
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barbara two hundred that was system for
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a theory mvp four thousand an hour slicing
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hundred or bitcoins if it's
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sixty and now it's thirty in that world
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it
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what it has he believed in it
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why would you sell
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age when others don't and
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that's funny is
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on one jorge
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you all move on your
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convictions was foul if
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you didn't actually have conviction is hop for
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, moment for you quit now
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now so i was so many patients in the
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city the given
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us a given us i
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don't know to me
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i believe in a hard
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the ninety percent that's what he saw i
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was right on that i think cricket pointed out
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of everything including he provided even myself
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the most
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have a very different sitting in the whole
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game
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the project a coffee and created
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this in
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, years when it's the same stories
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that have to go back and when i'm like that
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the room for ,
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years the the high turnout be very
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hard to go out and she go pocahontas of
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the by the ballot ballot the women
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have to do that who have to
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move birds ephemeral for half a glass necessary
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for a decade ago properly just
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be value that what they are now has
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a history that's
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what really sold me on and in the beginning and in didn't
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really understand that when you look that be friends
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with us where the aides said
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working to build the ip would
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be the other thing they could set a nfc apart
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from the crypt the phones are automatically scarce
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because they have the legacy of it's
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history itself only one of legacy
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rarest things in prison
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isn't a like that's more
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like more like is the game reason
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people collect aliens and zombies
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of face in like every collection
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that happened in twenty one
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to the punch ramadan
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which is the word thrown around a lot in the beginning
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a better
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twenty twenty twenty twenty one assist
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feared and his whole rest oh
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combat people will start looking at
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the history the game and i think things
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and
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on a feeling of wanting seventeen eighteen
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nineteen project will have a different
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flaws finishes like v friends
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and others have hopped off in the next
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chapter those projects me included
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have a lot of pocket more motivated
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slower you are you can have can all out
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at massively executed their marketing of them
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there
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the when i look at that one of like you know with
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me i'm like oh i'm lucky i get for one
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a marathon sybil the whole thing on his
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hair
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hold on one or more
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than you , holsters
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me
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corporate culture rand
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paul certain focusing
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on top of the fashion
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the hard like
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, rock and supreme hear her i
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did see one of our summers has it on his beanie
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but that's just wanna have suffered have
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series of the price
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like palin shit
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the recording
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hope for me i'm sure hate
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to do it for forty years i got a lot
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of work the new like all of us and zip away
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the yeah i'm very impressed that love it guy
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fieri somebody i've noted for long has
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he said we have with them
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what i , one or two the
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founders in the early days of
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of the whole world is hop it up as as
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as seven forty them
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i feel so on i'm sure
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wouldn't have a row you know a little
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baby has one of those a it's on his on
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if you want me to be like that
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for v friends into does have a fork
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and puffing on my face or something like this open
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isis or doesn't rule say right here i could see that boom
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article look that would be a some
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than this
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roger okay him about ago wow
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like when you see them just i
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don't i don't know what the back and deal is
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with it or a them but when they're like oh
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man look at seven am has
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this board a bow you look
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at that like that's a brilliant
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marketing idea of as you feel like that's
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not on brand for the be friends are
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or how do you think about that i'm a celebrity endorsement concerned
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concerned about this for fifteen months
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so i could slow and steady
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i knew that i could amount
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the bought by know what
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, want people to buy buy he
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friend of actually want to hold forever
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not because of the moment for moment most
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sensible celebrity
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her mom
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the hit a bit of other have some
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, it because of the great investment
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some people that
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the body of water marketing they'll
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everyone does the for different reasons i
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wanna do too much in
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the first
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there were getting adam are now because
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i so much emotion and
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so much muscle and saw just
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focus on i've been phenomenal
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is hidden in minnesota seventy
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thousand people huge event
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really excited about it if
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, flipping flipping the over
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about the really get the character from
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i doodled into the crease and
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form of how i could go either
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man that happen
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to live on social and you said simon
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and businessman mode the first year and a half of
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all
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the going to have mohammed
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a homeless
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i know it i know who i am
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i'm really going to look at is a race against other
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projects i just
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what about the big meeting hall and i'm willing
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to do it from our and meaning
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not bad ideas
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, mean listen i want every fucking a d t
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v with celebrity a human being on
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her for hockenheim he says no no
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not the same that on both focus on
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in on harm
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another course harm you put on
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what has been your journey in his
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wealth of was he was on and of was this
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fucking crazy homeless other foods is hop
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with this is a sandwich how is the hippie roller
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coaster for this i'll try to be open minded
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about learning as much as i possibly could
18:42
i listen to a process where they are poker player
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in in dot polka basically convince me that
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the crypto pumps we're going to be a very good
18:48
long term investments i thought my
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girls are ago and a half with me on
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one we went to buy that ha
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by the time we have figured out a chance for the money
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and everything is one hundred sixty case at
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one point i think it was born in city save
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for the floor with ours is approximately at the
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floor i believe i'm not sure what it would be
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right now one hundred forty of
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her yeah i had a moment where i was really
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think a long hard about doing a know jumper like
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series of enough these were there be a limited number
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created for each interview that i did i
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ended up running into the problem of like i don't
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own any of these people's likenesses
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and it would be like unspeakably difficult
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to get permission to use as bosley
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for interviews that i've done five six
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years ago you know am i going to get permission is wealthy
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space for five and of seasons isn't really
19:32
makes estimates it looking at it now
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i'm also concerned like wow that would be tough
19:37
they were convinced the world that i was
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on a up and up in that regard but
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you know a month causes door on a
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by any means i still think that is doubly
19:46
technology that's important there and just
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extremely skeptical of like most of what
19:50
they were putting out there any sense right like
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city look at influence as he look it's so funny
19:56
youtube , internet stuff
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says molson
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the hello world at work right
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homeowners appointed new technology everyone
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always discredited
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you never hear about people
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four hundred fifty
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in our
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like like those
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the more
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thoughtful
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they're going to want to know who the buffs one of the project
20:44
hardly capable everyone's like what's the road
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map he will help you can do this is the this
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is was like you think they didn't
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never gonna
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, that sounds of the people were
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like here's what my company's going to do and
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i had to say i don't say i on
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nothing to write you it's
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that isn't that a terrible part of being an
21:03
entrepreneur or being especially something i do
21:06
people want you to invest in their projects
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that at a certain parts your job kind
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of becomes just saying no to people over
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and over and over more so than just saying yes because
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as a lot more bad ideas and are good at what
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, actually realize you're doing people
21:20
service when i think know if
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my office in the hang of things
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wrong
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he doesn't think you're gonna get coffee
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or have you thought about this do know that this
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i do in that over that like i try to give
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us you're
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meeting for you bro hug sit down i
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went back home and we fucking video and a pocket
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wow i
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prefer to say yes i don't like negativity
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thought i'd prefer to
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what your eardrums your own money i
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just realized and number two along
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the way
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and then they actually happened
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you would somewhere along the way and
22:14
had of candor , kind
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of feedback see are now raising
22:18
in this space that was argue about that
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and a fees and all that that you've missed out on
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a you look back on your geez i was i was a lot
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more of a modern on our our
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because i am very happy in early season
22:30
ending that and willing to lose
22:32
the education for their own full
22:34
time and money than i'm willing i'm most
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people say a lot of people build
22:39
muscle and money because and all has
22:42
come in for going to santa ana
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yeah and , and
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so on a level
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hop all about the money i'm going to play with
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and then other people like ,
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like hold up the time is valuable wonderful
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more the for the time the war
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i'm gonna find the money to learn
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and i'm willing to deal with everything go to zero if
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it doesn't
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my favorite no
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i don't have that regret because anything i've been even
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someone
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how i guess that's why i think i'm gonna get someone to
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become a different guy regardless of the face
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as you idea what , the things like
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the face as who idea so on the table for sure
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you're you're ounce ocelot is
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messy is missile over
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but loan let me the you this
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we have seen a big
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big indictments hum down young so
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gun etc organ lots of we're seeing
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a situation in we're you know people
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who probably came up in the streets
23:41
or whatever san and are making millions of dollars
23:43
and end up in a situation where are
23:45
my perspective it looks like this
23:47
was my of exceedingly easy taste
23:49
for the government to make against them as some point
23:52
now at with you i know you've
23:54
probably seen quite a few people over the years that
23:56
sub building an impressive business for them is still
23:58
maybe a little says happen the streets are doing
24:01
some illegal sit on a sophomore their advice
24:03
anybody who immediately just doesn't bring
24:05
in this huge amount of money as an entertainer or
24:07
whatever and these are really separate themselves
24:09
from stuff they could get them from prison
24:12
it's a real in you know that if
24:14
it was a black and white answer any so
24:18
there's , a human on earth doesn't
24:20
understand
24:21
that on paper you
24:23
wanna get away from anything that creates a
24:25
boat ability to the prom
24:28
an emphasis when
24:30
i tell you i have zero
24:38
he bought for gonna have
24:40
the time and i'm a huge fan of cause
24:42
i don't know him but you ,
24:45
the reality is that for
24:47
a lot of people and i see with
24:49
immigrant life
24:56
that you've got a humongous move along
25:00
like everyone who doesn't know anything
25:03
about how people from
25:05
little for the the law it's very easy
25:07
for them to pontificate similar sarah
25:38
the emotional for people that are in the inner
25:40
circle with macro because it's nothing
25:42
will happen
25:43
the boy had the fact that the key thing
25:45
coming on the heels of indictments wasn't crazy
25:48
hum i guess last question
25:50
we are at a weeds and benson how
25:53
many businesses many businesses cannabis space
25:55
are you involved with and where do you think
25:57
that the real opportunities and grow far and
26:02
large investment company on
26:05
my bomb the had why i'm here
26:07
that's what this is all about hundred
26:09
, sat ramos got a son of suppose got a brand
26:11
called ashworth see a lot
26:14
of fun at cb to be transparent
26:16
i'm a non operating partner
26:19
in greens me so i'm not sure
26:21
how easy
26:22
rama have going on a more the
26:24
money and a mayor for that oh
26:26
and
26:27
the may have also been that
26:29
i grew up in the live in the woods
26:31
, sake i hope cannabis
26:34
started getting legalized getting wanted to see
26:36
the countries have finally ready to get
26:38
over the he's funny i was like okay
26:45
you know i'm are i'm on the board
26:47
of a whole video
26:48
the lot of out of canada have
26:51
some i'm really in collecting
26:53
for me alone is
26:55
, apple apple the let them are them
26:59
like the only like more
27:01
excessive we will see the space take
27:03
shape in front of her eyes and for me
27:06
it's always harper as right liquid zappa sort
27:08
of my former creative ideas
27:18
on the boy am i hope he
27:21
harm but i but it's a very
27:23
interesting faith and on
27:24
the
27:27
people who then how long the world around
27:29
me , has only been a problem
27:32
for less than a hundred years years
27:35
that like a hissy time for
27:37
just coming off the off will receive
27:44
a physical issues i'm excited
27:46
to see hunger and cannabis
27:49
find their appropriate place in
27:51
society and bring and lot of the benefit
27:59
mother drinking a fucking
28:02
hot sale and i'm like
28:13
i think i'm excited that sigma going
28:15
along and , think we cannot far have
28:18
conversations around and and that that
28:20
the procedure
28:22
with advances
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