Academic and Head of the Education Department at Goldsmiths University, Dr Anna Carlile, joins Dr Helen and Marianne, to discuss her research paper, “It’s like my kid came back overnight”, which focuses on the experiences of trans youth and their families accessing clinical care in the UK. Together they discuss inclusive education for trans youth, the issues faced when young trans people try to access care and how the approach needs to change.

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 Links:“It’s like my kid came back overnight” - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/26895269.2020.1870188Follow Anna on Twitter - @anna_carlileFind out more about AnnaThe adverse childhood experience study: https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/aces/index.html

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 The GenderGP PodcastGiving trans youth a voice with Dr. Anna CarlileHello, this is Dr Helen Webberley. Welcome to our GenderGP Podcast, where we will be discussing some of the issues affecting the trans and non-binary community in the world today, together with my co-host Marianne Oakes, a trans woman herself, and our head of therapy.

Dr Helen Webberley:Marianne and Helen here today, we have another lovely guest with us. We have Anna Carlile, who wrote a really lovely research paper on the experiences of parents of trans youth accessing services in the UK which caught my eye. It was really very enlightening. So, Anna, what I'm going to do, if you don't mind, is pass this over to you to introduce yourself, tell everyone who you are, what inspired your research and a little bit about what the article was all about really. So, over to you.

Dr Anna Carlile:Okay. So I work in educational studies. So I have a background as a secondary school teacher. And as a teacher of young people, who'd either gone to prison or were coming out of prison and had extra mental health needs and also children and young people with autism as well. I was working with young people who were permanently excluded from school. And I got, just got very frustrated about the institutional prejudice that they were experiencing around race, around sex and gender, and also around sexual orientation and social class. And somebody said to me, you should do a PhD on that if you're frustrated. So, so I did, and that's how I ended up as an academic at Goldsmith's. I'm currently head of department, of the department of educational studies at Goldsmith's, and I'm a senior lecturer in inclusive education. So all of my research is around children and young people's experiences. And particularly my methodological approach is to draw on young people's own voices and their own stories. So I see them as experts by experience. So that kind of drives everything I do. I never intended to be a queer academic doing all queer stuff, but I've kind of gone off into that direction. I don't know. You just end up with your family, don't you somehow. So I did a piece of work on LGBT inclusive education in schools serving faith communities. And then I did something around LGBT parenting families. And then I ended up talking to some support groups of young people who are trans, and they asked me if I would help them evidence the kinds of problems that the family say we're working with were having in accessing clinical support.