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for clinical translation, he's recognized as

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one of the leaders in the

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clinical application of Cel and gene

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therapies for anti aging and chronic

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diseases. On this episode of the

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talk about the latest developments in

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stem cell research. And it's potential

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benefits for health and longevity. Where

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he's like by the progression of

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stem cell research, from the controversy

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surrounding embryonic stem cells to the engineering

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of cells to target specific pathways,

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he's going to share how he uses

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stem cells to treat chronic pain

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and neurological conditions like dementia and Parkinson's

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disease, or in is like about

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novel therapies for managing stress Ptsd and

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anxiety and the role of peptides

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and gene therapies in regenerative medicine, which

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vitality when. Talk about the importance of

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exercise, nutrition and so much more. Dr.

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And. So much more Here we go. Ducks are

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dual Com wasn't a show what's going on Pm

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how they found him he stood. you've been making

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the rounds you I was just watching an interview

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they do with Jordan Peterson. ah I was texting

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his daughter Mchale on my friends with ah about

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you They're all huge fans over there and a

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meet you and have your money? Yeah it is.

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It's a whole new world of medicine and I'm

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excited to share with the. I love

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it. I love platforming innovators and up you

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are certainly one of those self. I love

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to start high level for the audience for

4:06

those looking to maximize their health and live

4:08

longer. One of the latest developments in stem

4:10

cell research which seems to be in areas

4:12

of expertise for you that can help people

4:15

achieve that goal. Yeah so I'm gonna

4:17

have to give a love of a history lesson

4:19

so people can understand kind of the progression of

4:21

stem cell research because Samsung have been around for

4:23

a while and it to the point where even

4:25

in like. When. George Bush was president.

4:27

There was a live discussion because of embryonic

4:29

stem cells and the controversy around that's and

4:31

then about the potential stem cells with any

4:34

kind of went to the background because I

4:36

was the not going to harm fetuses to.

4:38

Take themselves. Are some ethical issues

4:40

with that's so then they they kind of

4:42

figure out. Okay we can start using umbilical

4:45

cord themselves but then the problem was like

4:47

what's the right though saying with the right

4:49

and we can't really control the cells to

4:51

do what we want. So now we're entering

4:53

this era which is very exciting. What's cause?

4:56

Synthetic Biology which is genetic engineering ourselves? These

4:58

are the latest breakthroughs in which we can

5:00

actually control the South. Similar to how we

5:02

can control drugs to do what we want

5:05

and send signals. We will be wants is

5:07

a called induced Pluripotent Stem cells or. I

5:09

psc celts the uses his from Professor Yamanaka

5:11

who I talk about the time but p

5:13

that Nobel prize winner from Japan and he

5:15

got the Nobel prize because he figured out

5:17

how to take any somatic cell in your

5:19

body see getting like a skin cell a

5:22

muscle south and he could easily turn back

5:24

into a baby Samsung. Is. Kind of

5:26

crazy right? It's like the fact is your body has as

5:28

and eight memory to. Be. Reversed age and

5:30

now is pretty wild. First of all says it's hard

5:32

to even comprehend that because it's like you could take

5:34

any old sound your body and you can make it

5:36

like a baby stem cell houses are. We figured I'd

5:39

do that with cells. What we haven't yet figured out

5:41

how to do that with the organism Who? Yeah, because

5:43

it's the problem is because and that. This was going

5:45

to happen though and my prediction is and like down

5:47

the road we will build to do that with the

5:50

whole organism which is epigenetic reprogramming space. A We can

5:52

take your whole body. We could the age you using

5:54

the cellular reprogramming approach that not there yet but that's

5:56

what I think will happen in the future. For now

5:58

what we can do it. We can take

6:00

cells from your body or for someone else

6:02

has bodies we can reprogram them and so

6:04

it called induced Pluripotent Stem Cells ip a

6:07

cease and then you can differentiate them into

6:09

different cell lines. So for example what we

6:11

have now as we have and I like

6:13

to call them second generation stem cells or

6:15

second generation X his own x is also

6:17

kind of like the super the broth the

6:19

stem cells go in and they have although

6:21

cytokine profile and like the proteins and growth

6:23

factors to reduce inflammation they can cross the

6:25

blood brain barrier and so what we can

6:27

do is we can engineer the south to

6:29

target specific. Pathways to such as being like okay

6:31

we'll give you umbilical cords themselves they do have

6:34

a general anti inflammatory effect and deftly have a

6:36

lot of potential benefits for the problem is you

6:38

so much heterogeneity meanings was very bell the in

6:40

terms of results and to the application it's in

6:43

terms of even though think as as you get

6:45

one donor versus another donors in my be building

6:47

the actual qualities as themselves so you can standardize

6:49

it. so with but with I P a C

6:52

we can standardize them so that's the biggest kind

6:54

of breakthrough and this has been seen. This.

6:56

Year the publisher draw for parkinson's disease and the

6:59

actually transplanted I've yes he derived opening in producing

7:01

neurons into the caught a peu de mayo which

7:03

like in the brain where they lose a dopamine

7:05

new and rights and as he in Grafman of

7:07

the south and produce new dopamine neurons still regenerating

7:10

brain tissue how crazy is that That's insane death

7:12

and so it's while and others as a potential

7:14

I've yes he's a we have Ip yes he

7:16

is now for exosomes and were in the process

7:18

of manufacturing Ip at different Ip aziz for like

7:21

aging Ives the will have that later this year

7:23

doesn't mean and where are they getting you mentioned

7:25

are the placenta to that. The primary source

7:27

for that's where it's how that in a

7:29

first generation stem cells that which is from

7:31

perry needle fluid or placenta tissue or umbilical

7:33

her tissue and will cook ware fluids I

7:36

but is the second generation you can just

7:38

take from any cell in your body or

7:40

so another body and if is reprogramming so

7:42

secretary shows really cool because you can have

7:44

basically with call and immoral cell lines were

7:46

you take when you have one donor. And

7:49

then you can just make an infinite mana cells from

7:51

that one donor. Wow so where would we were would

7:53

be would like to go to de facto place from which

7:55

to harvest those cells skin as easy as because this

7:57

is the easiest place to get a biopsy. He does

7:59

your skin by. The and then you can you that

8:01

skin cell of Ira Glass and and we can you

8:03

sell your reprogramming and then you can turn yourself into

8:05

whatever you want. You can turn a skin tones when

8:08

neuron He yeah and an implant there are other partner

8:10

that of the heart of round I've he has a

8:12

drive neural progenitor cells so Europe or Dagger meaning is

8:14

a projector which means it has ability to turn into

8:16

new neurons and then you can translate them into the

8:18

brain. Yeah why does were actually good? That's one of

8:21

things. We have a movie out in the pipeline. A

8:23

We have a neurosurgeon on our team for dementia in

8:25

Parkinson's I and Os and But Models grosses his use

8:27

of know progenitor cells in to bring directly. Right now

8:29

we're using. The first generation once and we

8:31

inject them are be I could into a

8:33

crowded artery or into the Brit. we have

8:35

a neuro interventional radiology and yes he injects

8:38

the and also course themselves and exosomes directly

8:40

into the brain which ends was still makes

8:42

a significant impact on dementia and alzheimer's and

8:44

it. In. A sad reality as he

8:46

funding for eight years and like to buy

8:48

it turkey, Pakistan all these places and is

8:50

still not even on the radar in the

8:52

Us. Wow, it's

8:54

yeah, Doesn't saints for enter a condition

8:56

like you know? Alzheimer's Disease, for example,

8:58

does most common form of dementia. I

9:00

mean, there's widespread. Degeneration

9:03

right across the cortex. I could yeah many different parts

9:05

of the brain so how do you then know what

9:07

like had you know where to put the to ingest.

9:09

The whole thing about I know is is out kind

9:11

of When I first thought I was a how to

9:13

the south know what to do. But then they

9:16

have something called a homely mechanism which is

9:18

really cool. So stem cells there's something called

9:20

chemo kinds that gave release from cells that

9:22

are damage and of chemo kinds basically set

9:24

targets themselves like hey come here and help

9:26

and repairs of tissues. It's a crazy thing

9:29

is actually have study like you can actually

9:31

seats these like high resolution are microscopic and

9:33

as pictures and you gotta see the salad

9:35

migrating to this area of damage is it's

9:37

model cool. In the past they were they

9:39

were blowing what people's noses with an arts

9:42

yeah internees All you can still do Internees

9:44

all exosomes and. Nebulizer them to which is a

9:46

way to get them into the brains and but

9:48

then we eat and as that's what we do

9:50

with like into internal insulin for example, to is

9:52

a thing that can be used for dementia as

9:54

well. So does all. It's kind of unknown therapies

9:56

out there that people probably haven't heard about because

9:58

most doctors it's on. About them when it

10:01

comes to leave your dish out of conditions.

10:03

We live in neurodegenerative suite of conditions as

10:05

like really the cutting edge of where the

10:07

sciences going. I say

10:09

aging is because aging as a huge just

10:12

like there's a so much investment going into

10:14

that from like the silicone valley like private

10:16

equity eve of the billionaires who live forever

10:18

and there's the judges. A massive amount of

10:20

investment going into live like basically it's curing

10:22

aging because they're thing aging as a try

10:24

disease. So if we if it is a

10:26

try disease and we can solve it's aging

10:28

is arguably the most complex chronic disease so

10:30

she can solve that is on a lot

10:32

of other Klein diseases. Kids if you think

10:34

about it dementia it's the what's the best

10:36

biggest risk factor for it age exactly. So

10:38

if you can. Some for aging then you're

10:40

going to helped ultimately than to help and

10:42

the a dementia as lights and where the

10:44

dude drivers for that read his chronic inflammation

10:47

as oxidative stress, medical or dysfunction is all

10:49

these were called twelve hallmarks or ten to

10:51

twelve hamas of aging and once you can

10:54

understand those route fundamental principles and you can

10:56

use that as cellular technology and genetics technology

10:58

to kind of reprogram the south than you

11:00

can actually potentially cure And and as that's

11:03

the goal so I think because every to

11:05

somewhat investment into aging right now statscan ultimately

11:07

help us with all. his other chronic diseases.

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E's is induced pluripotent stem cells

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on that you referenced and of

12:53

above some somewhat more familiar with

12:55

mesenchymal stem cells. Yeah yeah no

12:57

as so mesenchymal stem cells are

12:59

derived from. Umbilical cord tissue or from

13:01

your fat were bone marrow so that I'm

13:03

fat and bone marrow are allowed in the

13:05

Us but you're not allowed to contrary spend

13:07

them. So for example of you go to

13:09

like a clinic in L A and you

13:11

can get stem cells but. You're

13:14

not actually stem cells are were called committed progenitor

13:16

cells or were com medicinal signaling cells so the

13:18

it what that means is he sells aren't really

13:20

get a rate regenerate new tissue but with again

13:22

do as are going to send signals that can

13:24

help to reduce inflammation which is still have a

13:26

beneficial effects is is a but the problem is

13:28

it's a It's kind of confuses people because people

13:30

don't realize that they're not actually going to stem

13:32

cells and like if you want to get to

13:34

stem cells like you're saying you have to get

13:36

Ms income ms the most we have to isolate

13:39

from the bone marrow or the fat or umbilical

13:41

cord tissue and then yet to grow them from

13:43

like three or four weeks. And then you can

13:45

inject them orange, use them or would do every

13:47

like with them. Got it? So this is the

13:49

the I P A C cells are sort of

13:51

like the new the new version Yeah that yes

13:53

he is. Essentially instead of taking them from any

13:55

tissue from your body Ibiza see this it you

13:57

can you the donor beginning of the skin and

13:59

just read. Mm well so and so having

14:01

to and that is really cool because then. Instead.

14:04

Of having to like. You. Know, collect them

14:06

and harvest them into save so much on

14:08

the manufacturing side if you think about it

14:10

was easier than I but the biggest risk

14:12

I've yes he was always the fact that

14:15

they can turn into tumors are cancer because

14:17

if it's an atheist Caesar almost like embryonic

14:19

stem cells to they have to my stubbornness.

14:21

So meaning they can keep growing and have

14:23

uncontrolled proliferation. The technology we have is with

14:25

the companies and we've partnered with. they have

14:27

a gene at it so that gene at

14:29

it prevents uncontrolled spliff racing. So when the

14:31

south is a cell start replicating without control

14:33

else is like Kelso Just stop this awesome

14:35

growing. To wait where the only ones

14:37

as far as I know in the world who

14:39

have that technology it's ah it's is. It wasn't

14:41

about by us but his dibaba his company that

14:44

spend like you know seven eight years of research

14:46

and we have like this is kind of exclusive

14:48

licensing with them while you're doing this up in

14:50

Canada crack i mean all over weddings clinical trials

14:52

and can add but also were doing some some

14:54

and prosper are hundreds of be avec research lab

14:56

they're watching so Mexico and I'm also doing and

14:58

met and the by so while for and then

15:00

I do. I do some work in Japan as

15:02

well while some with the legal status of Us

15:04

stem cell therapeutics you're in the Us. So

15:06

there I was a ten years behind

15:08

most of the world several meanings at

15:10

this address me thing as as japan

15:12

for example I was like he was

15:14

Japan as an example because strachey leaders

15:17

when it comes to innovation technology I

15:19

even medicine they're alive there were a

15:21

d their than they have lunge at

15:23

as you know other dysentery and sesame

15:25

other i'm positive health outcome and how

15:27

to help data and so in Japan

15:30

did had a regulatory framework for regulating

15:32

how stem cells can be administered for

15:34

ten years meaning the are legal. A

15:36

did but they to confront like regular who

15:38

can do at how it's died but in

15:40

the Us they just said no you can't

15:42

do them node at the ages as they're

15:44

illegal essential legal So it's kind of unfortunate

15:46

because obviously there there is benefits for them

15:48

but it has to just be done in

15:50

the right way and when you make it

15:52

illegal like that then you kind of have

15:54

this and was like black market the hassle

15:56

me doctors offering stem cells throughout the U

15:58

S and Se Kang. After you can keep

16:00

up the cash at them all down to like

16:03

hundred the not thousands of them so clinics down

16:05

the U S and but most of them are

16:07

doing things properly. They're not doing things properly. Interesting.

16:10

Gather I'm either the what's the league or so

16:12

then your. First of all you're doing something at

16:14

night allowed so you have to skirt regulatory bodies

16:16

and as like how do you even like there's

16:18

so many things have to navigate right? Yeah is

16:20

why is this is there I remember reading a

16:22

citizen statistically couple years back that it takes on

16:24

average seventeen years for was discovered in science to

16:26

get put into date is a clinical rak later

16:28

the is called a translation Clinical translation Gop is

16:31

fi between fifteen to twenty years as haven't seen

16:33

as by the bang on for years down the

16:35

ice is a huge This is similar allowed right

16:37

because his eyes people who will get help and

16:39

are suffering. With chronic illness and they think

16:41

there's no hope and that's why it's what

16:43

I how I learned is not only reading

16:45

scientific papers, were talking to scientific experts like

16:48

and who are like domain experts in this

16:50

specific area. So like whether it's it's about

16:52

as about peptides or a sense as a

16:54

gene therapy I'm talking to scientists whose life

16:56

work is that stuff? That's where I learned

16:59

from because they're so that that what they've

17:01

always figured out so far ahead of what

17:03

medicines gonna apply in in we have to

17:05

see most patients get access to that. So

17:07

trying to make that go faster. Alumni doing

17:10

isn't disliked. I caught the disruptive model, a

17:12

Bbc going off shore and then using his

17:14

office he social media and other platforms to

17:16

kind of tell people hates there is hope

17:18

for you. Maybe you're you that you've Maybe

17:20

we can help you. Have you encountered controversy?

17:22

Have you encountered pushback from your colleagues and

17:25

in mainstream medicine? A. Ton on

17:27

it's on his head ass because it's

17:29

just unfortunate. When you're going. are you

17:31

going against the grain of assessing Canada

17:33

which is a very it's like conservative

17:35

type of culture in terms of like

17:37

innovation and like just you know people

17:39

just want to follow with health Canada's

17:41

as follow guidelines follow standard of care

17:43

that it's kind of their procedures always.

17:45

There's a lot of other doctors. Who.

17:48

You know who will say that or that stuff is nonsense

17:50

or doesn't work? Are you know he'd? Be.

17:52

Whatever it may beats and own, there's no

17:54

going to be, I think. Unfortunately, the more.

17:57

You know, notoriety you get the more. People

18:00

who are going to come after you and as nights

18:02

an Ama and then again I'm not I saw for

18:04

a days as I do treat like actually did top

18:06

Nfl players and it's L players or treat them the

18:08

wealthiest people in the world and lakes and I just

18:10

figure a lot wired a lot of people coming to

18:12

me as if I was like a snake oil salesmen

18:14

or like trying to us you know especially pro athletes

18:16

like their body is a career yeah and like they

18:18

wouldn't be coming to me if the is a stuffed

18:20

in of work even when amount of the kinds of

18:22

conditions were using. the great success. Chronic

18:25

Pain for sure is the one that

18:27

we can reproduceably treat with a very

18:29

high success rates. Almost everyone gets better

18:31

and is is remarkable. And another thing

18:33

that I mean it's it's been amazing

18:36

lately as as and then we do

18:38

called the Vegas Nerve Injection. So the

18:40

Vegas Nerve. As. Ist and

18:42

a stellar ganglion blocks us at. This is

18:44

a combination procedures. The Sally gangland block has

18:46

been around for like twenty years or so.

18:48

It's it's it's it's is sympathetic gangly on

18:51

and around their neck area and basically season

18:53

too sympathetic nervous systems. The what happens is

18:55

a lie. People are hyper rouser stress all

18:57

the time and especially if you have Ptsd,

18:59

Er trauma or anxiety which nowadays unresolved emotional

19:02

trauma and you know, so common. and we're

19:04

finding out more and more that this is

19:06

the root cause of lot of mental health

19:08

disorders. So you're nervous system kind of remembers

19:10

that's and so what. We do as we

19:12

inject anesthetic into the Stella ganglion and also

19:14

peptides and that calms down that sympathetic overdrive.

19:17

And then we also injecting to vegas nerve

19:19

exes of than peptides which is modulator kind

19:21

of reprograms a reboot the biggest nerve and

19:23

helps have been nervous system dysfunction so I've

19:25

had it so the his own to your

19:27

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19:31

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19:33

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of these stem cells know x his own than

21:22

peptide. sexism said in an anesthetic. yeah gotta as

21:24

annexes. oh this is our is just to remind

21:26

everyone is kind of that the broth and or

21:29

that's that that's it says you have chickens. I

21:31

say that chicken soups. the meat is a stem

21:33

cell phone and the broth is exosomes. know it

21:35

has all the nutrients in there but no actual

21:37

stem cells because you don't Actually neither is the

21:40

only the signaling molecules depending on what you're trying

21:42

to achieve. sometimes you need a stem cell, sometimes

21:44

you just the the axis of the depends on

21:46

what you don't treat so exosomes then they they

21:48

are so. It's basically at the soup if

21:50

you will have i'm to use your your

21:53

your term but it is basically signals your

21:55

body that there's a site that requires a

21:57

little bit of extra attention axis and encourages

21:59

your own by. The com to the site of

22:01

the injection yes and develop our work exactly wound

22:03

us how different peptides were to. I don't have

22:05

you heard like Bbc wanted to seven or Tb

22:08

forty five hundred lire but I'm not want to,

22:10

I don't I haven't. On to the but so

22:12

yeah when what's the what's the deal I lot

22:14

we were talking about these yeah well my mother

22:16

the reason is so the pets has been around

22:19

like insulin was when the first that I synthesize

22:21

like a hundred years ago and so in the

22:23

last leg decade or two there's been a huge.

22:26

Revolution I would say of isolating different peptides as

22:28

and think it's probably the most famous now like

22:30

I think mostly buffer of as and thick as

22:33

as a weight loss peptide. and but what is

22:35

is that? because Epic is basically with college Glp

22:37

one agonists which means it sends a signal to

22:39

your body to increase society or fullness and a

22:41

kind of makes me nauseous things as I just

22:43

how you look people lose weight which is which

22:45

is fine but the problem is most people and

22:47

debris gaining weight and his mother with with the

22:49

two bites. The point is it's a peptide, it

22:51

sends a signal a very specific task than that's

22:53

what peptides in general do. So Btc wanted to

22:55

seven sends a signal. To your body's to

22:57

help with different regenerative pathways. So facilities healing

23:00

and regeneration some people call it's like a

23:02

wolverine peptide and they can help with you

23:04

can make you heal faster and I see

23:06

in acute settings that it's phenomenology. How like

23:08

a sprain or strains and you want to

23:11

and you get Bbc One thirty seven. It

23:13

can really help the recovery process. Abdus bowl

23:15

loss after for and then but the problem

23:17

is. That. In the and

23:19

this is the issue is that because these aren't

23:21

patented right now at as the I decided that

23:24

because are not being. Prescribed.

23:26

Like by pharmacists, you know there's just kind of like

23:28

you know or them online, right? And their promises

23:30

night. A lot of oversight on them right now. So

23:32

it's Ft decided to ban them essentially. So now they're

23:34

a gander league on the U S. which is

23:36

which is a shame because I must say that people

23:39

should be or them online. but I've seen to do

23:41

under a physician who prescribed that to a compounding

23:43

pharmacy. What's wrong with that and they they made it.

23:45

Does that? Not compounding pharmacies can make them anymore. It's

23:47

wow because it's illegal to prescribe them and us.

23:49

and and because the compounding pharmacy can make them any

23:52

more legally. Whoa Is it's F the ace it did

23:54

to this is did in November while. Though it's

23:56

because they're not patents and what, I can

23:58

almost guarantee what's gonna happen. Defenders

24:00

who come to the I come out with

24:02

the patented Bpc want to do seven and

24:04

then they'll be like oh can I can

24:06

get through your that big pharma agency because

24:08

the I wound up because that's what they did

24:10

with I i don't have you heard tries appetite

24:13

or Mindoro nine girl majoras the second generation of

24:15

them back so it's a Grp one agonists so

24:17

how society it's but then also improves insulin sensitivity

24:19

so as to help somebody processed sugar better so

24:22

has dual benefits of that's what the cause. Second

24:24

generation of that because it's more effective and

24:26

a generic form the Socotra zip tied which

24:28

you can get from any of these. Places.

24:31

That sell peptides basically spots what what they

24:33

did was the farmers who companies basically does

24:35

add like it's like a complex onto that

24:37

tries episode that isn't really do anything it's

24:39

innards but then it can be patented and

24:41

then they can go through the whole process

24:43

of like Ft Abe and I'm pharmaceutical root

24:46

of gain prescriptions and then that way but

24:48

then it's like ten times the price of

24:50

the the when you can just get them

24:52

like a campaign pharmacy drive as covered by

24:54

insurance as it is a game right of

24:56

Lights, Insurance and Pharma and you know regulatory

24:58

body can all working together to keep them

25:00

system going. For them to can be very frustrating

25:02

as physicians of Zeus out here trying to help

25:04

people will the it it it as because I

25:06

think there's so many things that fall outside of

25:09

that system that can be so helpful and like

25:11

changing. For people in Sc know like Office Emus

25:13

I've and Stone International Doctor a sultry people and

25:15

it's I him and add that to me as

25:17

the most important thing is helping people who have

25:19

kind of reached the limits of the medical system

25:21

and have nowhere to go. So those are type

25:23

of people that I feel are abandoned in the

25:25

sense and like there's no one really to help

25:27

them under on their own. To figure it out

25:29

is is what Eyes and has referred. To as

25:31

Regenerative Medicine. Yes, Silverjet of medicine has become

25:33

a little bit of a like a buzzword.

25:36

So it's it's. the concept of basically repairing

25:38

or restoring tissue back to a previous state

25:40

and. I kinda like the word

25:42

so I would I use now. More is

25:44

like selling gene therapy. Were trying to use

25:46

cell and gene therapy to repair your body

25:49

and so there's different Obviously we talk about

25:51

has recently different cell types and now a

25:53

gene therapy to their some it is just

25:55

more and more advances happening with that as

25:57

well. So and that the intersection of cell

25:59

therapy Jintao. Be and Tissue Engineering is kind

26:01

of like the caught the holy grail of

26:03

to rejected medicine And but now it now

26:05

and now I'm learning more about By Electricity.

26:07

To I think by Electricity is bigamy a

26:09

component of that to what is that on

26:11

Fargo for us. So by Electricity is just

26:14

a meal but it sounds like it's using

26:16

electrical signals that I'm sure most of her

26:18

like of Tens unit and stuff like that

26:20

yes but those you know that that less

26:22

like a very like antiquated technology now because

26:24

they can modulate or control the signaling of

26:26

the frequency of the electrical signal extend into

26:28

your body's the amplitude how long. And they

26:30

can actually changing express it to meaning they

26:32

can help lifts they can use by electricity

26:34

to treat all sorts of conditions. Acknowledges the

26:37

for it's cause metics they're these imbalances. Have

26:39

you seen lawsuits that that people were for

26:41

Know how fast he said you were the

26:43

suits and it's sights. It basically stimulate your

26:45

muscles Buddies is is symbolic city so the

26:48

work out that you do actually has more

26:50

effective in a sense big in in you

26:52

could do that, a lower amount of volume

26:54

and you still get the same benefits or

26:56

muscle damage. And this is and there's there's

26:59

neuro. Twenty is why. The suit catalysts for the

27:01

few companies making them. I think there's like three or

27:03

four companies but there are the same principle which is

27:05

is malek the city Stimulate your muscles, More.

27:08

So than you would without the suit. Wow, sounds

27:10

dope. Yeah basically like and and like people

27:12

were really busy. It's are people who don't have it. will

27:14

you know of for me if I'm personally interested in using

27:16

a now because like have been traveling or famine hotel and

27:19

I don't have a twenty thirty minutes you can put that

27:21

suit on and you could your workout and the you could

27:23

still get a pretty effective organics I've done it has less

27:25

to me. I'm so like against gimmicky stuff I thought this

27:27

was like super deluxe with succeed the why the heck what

27:29

I do this is that because I'm it's a pretty intimate

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with any my whole life and I'm like this a stupid

27:33

like there's no way this works and then of it as

27:36

I try to add another holy cross My legs were so

27:38

sore the next day and I felt like as a so

27:40

much muscle damage that's. Normally would take me like a lot

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more exercises to do. you know? and I mean yeah. Teams.

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your personal trainer. We not.

29:24

Before you because yes, this is that. Yeah,

29:26

some of that journeys. Yeah, I mean I.

29:28

I feel like it's being a personal trainer

29:30

gives you such a unique vantage point in

29:32

medicine because it you. But he just goes

29:34

directly into medicine. which obviously most Dr. Seuss

29:36

you don't see the other side of health.

29:39

Which. Is prevention which is nutrition which

29:41

is like list all right all the

29:43

other stuff that you as a personal

29:45

trainer you can obviously see people's lives

29:47

change like I member having it's clients

29:49

that actually got author diabetic medications just

29:51

from exercise than but in medical school

29:53

we were never taught that like do.

29:56

We had one lecture on nutrition which

29:58

was kind of forgotten. Business. The

30:00

without me to go like you know he

30:02

lotta Darien we to convince him like it

30:04

was just it's always like kind of a

30:06

joke and for me I was like okay

30:08

this is it's this is and but obviously

30:10

my colleagues do. They don't wear questionnaire because

30:12

you're not really it's the thing him a

30:14

disease thing about like that to the snow

30:16

Allopathic Madison which is like drugs and surgery.

30:18

It's been an odd thing about all the

30:20

lifestyle stuff yards of a problem I know

30:22

physicians are are highly undertrained. My comes to

30:24

ah the benefits of the potential benefits of

30:26

exercise of your nose, disease modifying and so

30:28

many instances arm and then nutrition. The fact

30:30

that they use like to psych what

30:32

is essentially an instrument for commerce to

30:34

teach submissions to be about the about

30:36

the role that nutrition plays and health.

30:38

Ominous hims you know. Totally counterproductive. Yeah.

30:40

And as soon as the whole concept

30:43

that I am I like about Rich

30:45

Added Medicine is that it's all was

30:47

designed to manipulate signals in your body

30:49

and food is also a signal to

30:51

your body. And. That's the way I

30:53

like to think about food is information so

30:55

with the information is going to sell Ascend

30:57

if you eat like a twinkie or like

30:59

some fried to enough tips and and best

31:01

fit and tests versus like merely process like

31:03

let's a organ meat or something that's very

31:05

new to dense. Yeah I like this going

31:07

to be different signals that can have different

31:09

effects on gene expression and all the stops

31:11

and obviously overtime doesn't add up so I

31:13

think egg. I think a lot of physicists

31:15

dell I still see a like as as

31:17

you were like you know autoimmune conditions wizards

31:19

like our does matter what you eat like

31:21

let ya hackney. Say than twenty Twenty four.

31:23

Exactly his advantage. I just read a

31:25

headline where some guy took it upon

31:27

himself to eat nothing but Costco hot

31:29

dogs for thirty days and he said

31:31

his stomach was an absolute war zone,

31:33

but he lost weight in the process.

31:35

You know? So I feel like for

31:37

people that are that are solely focused

31:40

on you know, calorie counting and you

31:42

know that that whole if it fits

31:44

your macros which I'm sure you're familiar

31:46

with have yeah, personal trainer mentality By

31:48

nutrition, it's leaving this whole swath of

31:50

the power of nutrition basically on unexplored.

31:52

right? Yeah, and that and that's a problem with.

31:54

I think it's. Like. It's coming

31:56

from that world is that is not

31:58

just about the macro. In the make

32:00

any chance in the signal that a sense is

32:03

not can only affect your health by does actually

32:05

affect how your body process of calories as a

32:07

lot of people just like oh shit calories in

32:09

calories out is not as simple because if you

32:11

eat less lifted the hotdog man you know what

32:14

of what's gonna happen to his body as you

32:16

can it quantities I seem to get develop pride

32:18

information and there's other things too. Like we know

32:20

that when you people are processed foods you bdnf

32:22

in your brain goes down to right brain drive

32:25

narrow topic factor so that and back in August

32:27

it doesn't linked to so many things like depression

32:29

and add dimension likes the conga decline right south

32:31

Armagh things and about our that their year thirty

32:33

days But the point is to give me all

32:36

these changes in a says urology that's going to

32:38

happen and weather and then what that does is

32:40

when you have these chronic inflammatory. Pathways.

32:42

Getting activate it's do something cause

32:44

cytokine which are basically signals that

32:47

gets sent that can. Block.

32:49

Almost. with your. Normal homeostasis.

32:51

Meaning it can affect metabolic

32:54

pathways so. For. Example like

32:56

you have Krebs cycle and you have all

32:58

these different metabolic pathways and how your body

33:00

processes and be you know sugar sadly be

33:02

there electors and those can actually be affected

33:04

by chronic inflammation So when when you have

33:06

so far simpler thousand guys out because if

33:08

you have client your new chronically inflamed states

33:10

the metabolic processes that responsible for that are

33:12

going to be it's like down and like

33:14

a regulated so they're not gonna work as

33:16

well so they by not going a process

33:18

things as well and islamic hot there make

33:20

and have you heard their makes effect of

33:22

foods like for example protein has a higher

33:24

than Rica sector food. Than fat. So if

33:26

you eat more protein is can be no

33:29

more selling it. actually your body has used

33:31

more calories to process that he get a

33:33

bit a bit of a clerk free ride

33:35

yeah from from calories ingested via protein. Super

33:37

interesting yeah I mean they're a deep. these

33:40

foods or associate with heightened levels of inflammation

33:42

are also nutrient poor. Him in his these

33:44

you know Cosco hot dogs they're like yeah

33:46

obviously he's in a one would assume his

33:49

consuming the been as well which is high

33:51

and it was like predominately refined grains. Very

33:53

little new nutrition. Their the hotdog who knows.

33:55

You know what nutrients are left in that

33:57

me after all of the many process and.

34:00

The upset of Under underwent so they're yeah

34:02

you're depriving yourself of of micro nutrients are

34:04

we know we're super important for anti I

34:06

think they're also somewhat I am understand more

34:08

about those processes are also depleting your body

34:10

of nutrients like they actually make the hits,

34:13

like the actually make your body work harder

34:15

to achieve the same task. So they had

34:17

a buddy use more nutrients to be able

34:19

to achieve the same metabolic worked swamps and

34:21

so that that unless that's the problem says

34:23

not just that is it though is like

34:26

is like. You. Know is is is

34:28

worse than you think. How serious the I

34:30

know I'm in today. The public health citizen

34:32

statistics are dismal and your average adult today's

34:34

now consuming sixty percent of calories from these

34:36

alter processed foods. right? Which I think is.

34:38

I mean it's no wonder you see. View.

34:41

Here to terrifying statistics like by the your twenty

34:43

thirty one and two daughters gonna are going to

34:46

be not as overweight, but obese. You know, In

34:48

and with the all the associated conditions like type

34:50

two diabetes yes to mansour, cardiovascular disease, science or

34:52

in their got caught at consequence of that. And

34:54

the reality is I mean that maybe your home

34:56

or hopeful I don't I'm not very hopeful that

34:58

our whole system in environments in a change in

35:01

the next ten years. Yeah so the only solution

35:03

I see and maybe I will have a bias

35:05

or a d things which build more resilience in

35:07

your body. So what do I mean by that?

35:09

So for example, there's something how fecal microbiota. Transplant

35:11

which is where you transplant new gut bacteria

35:14

into year but that's and traditionally that's been

35:16

done to call Nasca p But you now

35:18

you can do it, Your palaces any more

35:20

accessible and or there's a i love bring

35:22

out the study of this microbiologists who was

35:25

also a Taiwanese bro champion weightlifter and so

35:27

yeah like superwomen rang and south and so

35:29

basically they this that she started her poop

35:31

and then they figured out that she had

35:33

a special bacteria called well p o one

35:36

which is a bicycle bacterium and if you

35:38

transplant that's into other people it actually boozer.

35:40

Cardiovascular fitness and health. Whoa. Yeah, What? We

35:42

find. The bacteria A Exactly. We're going to be

35:44

offering that sometime next year. Damn herself regular. That

35:47

product will sell very well. I guess it's much.

35:49

Do you think that something like a probiotic could

35:51

ultimately have such a person? I cari. it's transitory.

35:53

It's it's very unlikely to it. doesn't We populate

35:56

the guy you have to transplant new got that

35:58

microbes. So products are going there. They do

36:00

much like maybe there are maybe some higher ones

36:02

like Vs on number three in like those really

36:04

see Brian powders that maybe do something but even

36:06

those the pie have to it's it's it's hard

36:09

to know as you going to get sustained benefit

36:11

from them so long ago by to access on

36:13

so you guys typically uses his as you inject

36:15

them to the side of injury is that kind

36:17

of yeah so them So the most common thing

36:20

I treat are like chronically passing like osteoarthritis like

36:22

strike like Zelda, paying back pain stuff like that

36:24

and then yes we'll use imaging and then we'll

36:26

use of x ray, an ultrasound guidance and more

36:28

died needles directly into the air. Yes and exosomes

36:30

of really effective for soft tissue injuries Been

36:33

as they have. All this goes backers and

36:35

you know like the soup we talked about

36:37

to help the promote the body to heal.

36:39

Wow and how to you but how do

36:41

you locate the sight of injury executor? I

36:43

suffer from chronic low back pain actually I

36:45

would love to talk to about that at

36:48

some point. maybe even see you as as

36:50

a patient by like it's very hard for

36:52

even myself to identify the source of the

36:54

pain. Yeah, diagnostics exactly. Indictment Lesser.yet to be

36:56

a really good diagnostic and which is a

36:58

big problem in Ny in conventional. Medicine to

37:00

because the setting the you ask as you guys

37:03

are just like samurai for everyone and lights in

37:05

tad out because we were so like a resource

37:07

limited we can we be barely order m rise

37:09

like we were really like conservative with that stuff

37:11

so we have to lights do like of proper

37:13

history of physical or like we acted like did

37:15

we do ultrasound exam we we we really try

37:17

to assess where's his pain coming from where the

37:20

pain generators especially chronic back pain it can be

37:22

if is actually to could be your death he

37:24

could be their nerves it could be the muscle

37:26

the ligaments. There's a lot of different pain generators

37:28

so I could be referred from. The route so

37:30

is not as simple as as being like okay

37:32

samurai says this before, this is your problem, the

37:34

not doesn't and that and we know that for

37:36

a fag them when it does. Not a wonder

37:38

when correlation like if you did an ama I

37:41

on likes a hundred people walking down the street

37:43

over like h bodies on their liked less a

37:45

the shoulder like half of them would have rotator

37:47

cuff terrorism but that they're not and pay so

37:49

that does not a perfect correlation So that's what

37:51

you have to use clinical judgment and I've seen

37:53

that time and time again. It's where people go

37:55

to other clinics or the doctors and if you're

37:57

not good, diagnose Titians and figure out exactly what

37:59

the. Problem is and identify the pain generator than

38:01

your It doesn't matter if you use the best

38:03

themselves in the world he put them in the

38:05

wrong place or aka do a thing now so

38:07

it's of of that precision is very important and

38:09

that's that's kind of been my i guess claim

38:12

to fame. A little bad because where I train

38:14

with our doctor guy i was kind the first

38:16

when the world to use ultrasound imaging to guide

38:18

the needle and to inject like plate which plasma

38:20

the p r p r p and to terrorists

38:22

and so here's a tiny the pioneer of that

38:24

are lucky because I mean by him I'm a

38:26

Brit were very good a diagnostics of our youth

38:28

we can figure out exactly where the problem. Is coming

38:30

from and then that's where we would inject the axis on to some

38:32

cells and would you get the axis on from. So.

38:35

As of now we have the first generation,

38:37

second generation suffers. Generation is from umbilical cord

38:39

tissue just like the soup. thus of is

38:41

busy isolated when we grow this themselves and

38:43

then the second generation is as a genetic

38:45

reprogrammed went from the skin bouncy. Wow so

38:47

with a we actually taxes on some that

38:50

so that law for cosmetics to the skin.

38:52

one obstacle because my skin cell line is

38:54

good for cosmetics for the face. It got

38:56

it. And there's no because I'm assuming you

38:58

like a from afar it from i'm a

39:00

male. where would you get those exosomes from

39:02

like you just get them from a donor?

39:04

Yep. Placenta. Our chord

39:06

Yeah exactly. So after c section birth we take

39:09

them both a quarter suits and we have a

39:11

whole process on how to isolate and and mixed.

39:13

Obviously there's a lot safety. it's a half ago

39:15

and because you're putting cells by the people thousand

39:17

and Two body's the I gotta make sure if

39:20

there's lots of testing done not only an infectious

39:22

diseases that the quality of the thousand and is

39:24

the biggest the biggest and detail people need to

39:26

understand because his allies is like a predatory stem

39:28

cell clinics like all over South America and they

39:30

just do a good margin marketing and they're not

39:33

going to stem cells properly and what it would

39:35

I mean by that. Is that if if

39:37

you grow the stem cells too many times

39:39

meaning you let let him divide too many

39:41

times is called passages then their cells actually

39:43

decrease in by abilities which means they won't

39:45

survive and you'll have to add more senescence

39:47

south and then the quality. The stem cells

39:49

i she goes down to the most clinics

39:51

are doing like six passes a passage as

39:53

we live in our passengers to like three

39:55

and as something I learned in Asia so

39:57

that's something. I tried a mixer on them.

40:00

Factoring size we're doing everything we can give you

40:02

the best as a success. Some the stem cells

40:04

like themselves do work but if they don't survive

40:06

the not gonna do anything in law These cells

40:09

don't survive and we know that's so. the biggest

40:11

hottest area of research right now is that I've

40:13

yes he is because they have enhanced survival and

40:15

then you can use genetic engineering to improve survival

40:18

and then you can also use were called hydrogen

40:20

scaffolds and like treaty bow printing to kind of

40:22

embed them into and then they get protected from

40:24

the immune system and have more survivability. Wow! Kit

40:27

is are like a quick and easy way for

40:29

you to describe. The difference between cause we've

40:31

we've talked about exosomes, we've talked about stem

40:33

cells and N P R P plasma rich

40:35

snap play, liberalised wasn't Yeah yes so how

40:37

might one day I'm like a lie like

40:39

is likely given like a ladder in terms

40:42

of like interventions of like most like now

40:44

in legalese offensive do else, expensive and also

40:46

likes probably like most accessible to the success

40:48

moans. And so that's because they prp like

40:50

the most basic like you can get it

40:52

anywhere almost now because with pretty much every

40:54

any sports clinic offer this advice. the power

40:57

P R P is that is only as

40:59

good as your own plasma right? Because you're

41:01

taking your blood, you're spinning at him, stepping

41:03

out the plasma and concentrating the platelets and

41:05

a playlist. A kind of like the dosage

41:07

and them the medication sorta speak as gonna

41:09

send your body signals to have a healing

41:12

and regeneration. but the platelets, the growth that

41:14

does something called a cytokine profile Cytokine profile

41:16

is what we talked about liberal years, how

41:18

many growth factors are and they're They're going

41:20

to promote regeneration and and how many anti

41:22

inflammatory signals are in their they're going to

41:24

reduce inflammation so that's the cytokine profiles to

41:27

set up high profile of a P R

41:29

of like some. Someone like he was healthy,

41:31

spices like a six year old guy who

41:33

smokes. Eat. Bacon for backers and

41:35

all sources that are in the hotdog man like city

41:37

I will west. As much as Trp gonna be like

41:40

there's like we can be a lot less of the

41:42

anti inflammatory several times more of the pro inflammatory surrender

41:44

and studies on that and so so you can have

41:46

so much variability in terms of results for that reason

41:49

and that's why Prp is so vivid like mixed ray

41:51

and as is in it's it's not really gray for

41:53

chronic degenerative condition is really good for like a cute

41:55

muscle attendant. it's like for pro athletes we use a

41:57

lot because it's like if the like seeds admits. Then

42:00

to tear something anyone cut backs. Prp will

42:02

happily help with that in addition to peptides,

42:04

but. If ya something

42:06

that's more chronic degenerative does for

42:09

axes understand self come in so

42:11

accidents, disappearing, contacts, exosomes have about

42:13

ten times more cytokine profile. So.

42:16

That ten times more growth factors and if

42:18

I'm a toy signals than Prp while and

42:20

as themselves have like about twenty so but

42:22

does or does double of what exosomes have

42:24

But the point is that that is a

42:26

magnitude of order difference between Prp and exosomes

42:28

was a huge difference when you looking at

42:30

just the sight of high profile that's what

42:32

the results are. So much more superior way

42:35

comes to soft tissue injuries could use has

42:37

something more signals that I tell you buy

42:39

to help ya know how many many many

42:41

Nhl and Nfl players who try Prp it's

42:43

and them work and then the exes homes

42:45

were great So but with Prp you're injecting

42:47

basically somebody his own plasma back into them

42:49

were to the site of injury. with exosomes

42:52

you're getting them from a donor, exact his

42:54

early going immunologic response because you're injecting somebody

42:56

elses know and that's the beauty of these

42:58

technologies are all with call them you know

43:00

privilege So there's no a jolly antigen so

43:02

there's no stimulatory effect and so does net

43:04

zero chance of like projection or graft versus

43:06

host disease. A lot

43:08

of people I think says a when you

43:10

think of themselves they think of like stem

43:12

cell transplants and that comes from does cause

43:15

he maddow politics themselves Hsc so that's different

43:17

from his income of themselves so desolate way.

43:19

if you have agencies you have to have

43:21

cross matching that's why would you know when

43:23

people try her just clock really like like

43:25

always getting a bone marrow transplant did they

43:27

are the a match or stuff like that.

43:29

that's why because it Hsc the nemesis don't

43:31

have to be as a match. But and

43:33

Bethesda. problem with Msc though the first generation

43:35

Msc still is that they are still a

43:37

little bit immunogenic. So do now you have a

43:40

graft versus host disease, a rejection but we still

43:42

gonna get your immune system to then she cleared

43:44

the mouse or they'll stick around that long stuff.

43:46

where the second generation so good because the they

43:48

get their gene added it to be hypo immune

43:50

so they stick around longer so they can do

43:52

more. their bag gets stab wound. So.

43:55

Cool where disease all got like. Trending

43:57

towards like say five years now if you had like

43:59

out. Crystal Ball Ten years from now. I.

44:02

See like full organ regeneration

44:04

well meaning probably cartilage will

44:06

be sofres like. Because like

44:08

linear like an organ. Now that's what we

44:11

define it as Like it is it's own

44:13

organ systems and so were pregame. Pretty close

44:15

to be able to regenerate cartilage and you

44:17

can resurface an entire joints using tissue engineering

44:19

with those embarrass themselves and they resurfacing the

44:21

joint using arthroscopic surgery so sagging joint replacements

44:23

you could just we go when you need

44:25

so to speak the that's how far away

44:27

and then I mean is I would say

44:29

been ten years I I be surprised if

44:31

we can't like Rico like a kidney or.

44:34

Pancreas. Heart. but as apple pie be

44:36

like bit more challenging. but I can see

44:38

those organs being done in by twenty like

44:40

thirty five. Yeah yeah I remember hearing a

44:43

ted talk from a guy named Anthony Atala

44:45

i think his name was and he was

44:47

talking about the fact that you noticed couple

44:49

years away were completely lab grown like away

44:51

the were doing in vitro meat. Now they

44:53

were starting to grow. Human Kidney disease.

44:56

Yeah can I talk yeah yeah yeah like ten

44:58

years ago yeah I got Riyadh know if it

45:00

is it's I feel like this didn't where it's

45:02

always hard I know I I feel like a

45:05

lot has been like overly five years away. Really

45:07

tell you the we have that she got a

45:09

layer nothing happens via it's as I really feel

45:11

like where we are actually getting close a because

45:14

just they have spoken of research and look at

45:16

where we are already with Ip a season where

45:18

we do know I've yes he's right where he

45:20

would be way regenerate new neurons, way regenerating new

45:22

pancreas as isn't be islet cells like new insulin

45:25

producing. A bit islet cells so the

45:27

story happening so it's like it's not

45:29

like science fiction anymore. Yard is only

45:31

gonna get better and better. A lot

45:33

of these are injuries that we're talking

45:35

about. I've heard you reference on on

45:37

somebody Elses show Similar: the end stage

45:39

of chronic disease? That right. Chronic Conditions

45:41

of Modernity. What proportion of chronic disease

45:43

would you say is attributable disease to

45:45

lifestyle? A

45:47

professor David cats he t t that

45:49

he published like a large like epidemiological

45:51

study on this and he said and

45:53

agree with that and this is the

45:55

most the best they'd I think we

45:58

have is about eighty percent. Of

46:00

chronic disease including cancer is at rebuild

46:02

to lifestyle. Wow eighty percent that massive

46:04

riots a bad as two hour earlier

46:06

discussions unless week it like to do

46:08

so me system changes the have to

46:10

happen for people to be able to

46:12

live a healthy lifestyle with easy Right

46:15

now they've I'm in setting you up

46:17

for failure rate responses. food everywhere it's

46:19

is way cheaper to eat unhealthy it's

46:21

it's hard to be active right and

46:23

tube socks what I see. And.

46:25

I am. Maybe I'll have a bias the what

46:27

I see as like as transplanting microbes into your

46:29

body's cells and gene therapy. All these different things

46:31

still make a body more resilient to their vomit

46:34

and almost like pack your body in a way

46:36

it's like enter like the word bow hacking but

46:38

now I kind of like Fc has were actually

46:40

in a wheel by hacking era where we can

46:42

actually hack your body in a sense to be

46:44

on with manipulated to get the benefits of exercise

46:47

without actually having to exercise because efforts are false

46:49

and gene therapy does so far fast and is

46:51

a peptide that's been around for like twenty thirty

46:53

years and with injection that we we have. It

46:55

basically secrete avast and for eighteen to twenty four

46:57

months and with a does it inhibits miles that

46:59

it would set a limit on how much muscle

47:02

you policy can put a more muscle without even

47:04

exercising when we see than a clinical trials. But

47:06

and what a A It also increases energy and

47:08

just vitality and just makes you feel younger. Last

47:10

was pretty cool and just with it injections good

47:12

physicists is it's not exercising upheld by like a

47:15

causing to exercise in a syringe that's out there

47:17

right now. War and Co follow Staten Gene Therapy

47:19

yeah gene therapy and us like how often you

47:21

have to inject and what what is it is

47:23

a peptide. It's a peptide

47:25

but the delivery mechanism is an gene therapy

47:27

vector so what would i me my factor

47:30

so I can explain vector by because everyone

47:32

knows about cove it obviously cosa covered vaccine

47:34

the vector was I'd let the nano particles

47:36

actor so they this a vector is some

47:38

of the uncle to carry sod that dna

47:40

mature that you're trying to deliver to the

47:42

south xavi see that dead live in now

47:44

particle nectar carried stammer on a that they

47:47

try to deliver to the south so this

47:49

is a vector a plasma nectar so what

47:51

that means as it comes from a cool

47:53

i like a bacteria that is. No live

47:55

bacteria in their apartment is is is like a

47:57

circle a strand of dna and then the vector

47:59

carries the. That in jean and it helps your

48:01

by other just tells us how to express more follows

48:03

that in and then the force that he goes into

48:05

your circulation and your levels like optimized for eighteen toy

48:08

for my said when injection so because of how the

48:10

false that in as many peptides like even like insulin

48:12

is i yup do in jacket or multiply it times

48:14

a day it's to the such a short half life

48:16

but no one knows going to do that for like

48:19

every day for like enough for years fit his or

48:21

his are part of you Other things like in the

48:23

bagger had skeptical like what could possibly go wrong or

48:25

injecting all these crazy things gene therapy and people are

48:27

people are other afraid of eating diem of. Basis:

48:30

If you're saying we're like of million be like injecting

48:32

these compounds and are several reprogramming our own Dna like

48:34

straight into our blog. Yeah, that's why I think you

48:36

have to understand that the of times and the mechanistic

48:39

basis of how these things work and there has to

48:41

be a lot of research and science A Before you

48:43

can say safely for sure that it does not going

48:45

to cause any harm and that's dishonest that in the

48:48

South has been around for twenty years. It's not like

48:50

as a new molecule is and we know is very

48:52

tissue specific says not gonna act on like is like

48:54

an act on your heart or make your heart bigger.

48:56

We have A we know it and it was in

48:59

the clinical trial we did. We showed like

49:01

on average people had eleven years in transit. Biological

49:03

h reduction is debatable, it is. It's has a

49:05

really acker, not at the point is a reduced

49:07

systemic chronic inflammation and it consistently improve energy and

49:09

strengthened by Erie composition. some still ongoing be positive

49:11

thing for your health. Yeah like we can't You

49:14

can't really argue with that. You know what I

49:16

mean for super interesting as there are a lot

49:18

of risks associated with on Trt. but I know

49:20

in our I don't I don't have a single

49:22

pure at this point that isn't on Trt. I'm

49:24

in my or leave. I'm forty one and I

49:26

allow. My friends were even younger and I am.

49:28

I'm not on it. Yeah, On any form of

49:31

Trt but there are other things your teeth

49:33

and there are fertility implications arm and the

49:35

like but something like this? I mean yeah

49:37

the same as it's because we have you

49:39

understand it has to do with the with

49:41

the risk is like the only side effect

49:43

we seen so far as I think twenty

49:45

percent people had increased libido says not of

49:47

our tears on the great yes there and

49:49

then I guess that and effort he rtt

49:51

a point. it's about risk benefits so wet

49:53

west at any time you look at any

49:55

interventions what's gonna be the benefit and versus

49:57

the rest right and in medicines called number

49:59

needed. The treat vs number need to harm

50:01

says like how many people do we have to

50:03

treat for this is actually have a meaningful benefit

50:06

clinically versus versus a have people are gonna get

50:08

harm for this amount of people to get up

50:10

and effects yeah so for example does a lot

50:12

people think oh if I take as drives is

50:15

gonna help me but alive drugs number need to

50:17

treat as like one and two hundred orders a

50:19

drug called felicity which is for diabetes is number

50:21

need to treat as one over three hundred and

50:23

twenty seven That means you have to treat three

50:26

hundred twenty seven people for it to actually have

50:28

a significant impact on like mortality while and how

50:30

much you fucking a harm So the number needed

50:32

and of did pass i effects of these drugs

50:34

I love him a side effects like ten fifteen

50:37

percent so the number need to harm is way

50:39

higher than the number need to treat yet it

50:41

still approved and the lottery prescribes does not always

50:43

as simple as like to think I'll just as

50:46

as he approved as it's great for me and

50:48

as gonna do something for me so that's and

50:50

that's that's of it's it's and that's the biggest

50:52

problem right now. I think with the whole kind

50:54

of sit in traditional approach is that people aren't

50:57

looking at like disk model of like okay it's

50:59

why not. why. Not try something that's gonna

51:01

be it that we know is safe, is

51:03

not harmful and could potentially of the same

51:05

benefit like. Exes: I'm injections for

51:07

a tears. why not try that first before

51:09

getting surgery? What's the downside? It doesn't work,

51:11

that's that's the downside. Essentially know the risks

51:13

no other s. Well, why wouldn't you consider

51:16

first is if you have the means to

51:18

do it as a lot of things are

51:20

not covered by insurance, so I think that's

51:22

probably the biggest drawback right now is the

51:24

expense. But aside from that like most people

51:26

looks like the vast majority people I see

51:28

like even people were just coming and just

51:31

as have consultations retain his stuff. they rather

51:33

try the stuff first before going on there

51:35

And a knife would. You say are for

51:37

people you know where more prevention minded I

51:39

saw included. Who am I mean not not

51:42

to be No take these off the tables.

51:44

Were I to one day need or want

51:46

to experiment with them? But like the big

51:49

leavers for you know anti aging prevention that

51:51

people can. Ah I'm. Institute right

51:53

now. I. Think

51:55

aside from lifestyle, I mean that the basics. I mean

51:57

the bases are basics and they're never going to change.

52:01

The. Number one by far I think

52:03

most important thing is doing progressive

52:05

overload resistance training which is. Easier

52:07

said than done because progressive overload resistor saying

52:10

requires paradise a sense which means you can't

52:12

just give your body the same work out

52:14

every time for indefinitely to the bible. Adapt

52:16

about smart So I think and investment into

52:18

a good trainer, a good coach or good

52:21

programs where they appeared eyes in your program

52:23

is going to pie be the best bet.

52:25

Best investment or helped by far. And then

52:27

from there's Odyssey. lot of stuff like you

52:30

Tiger Alec nutrition like stirs all he does

52:32

it like sweet stress meditation like all that

52:34

stuff is obviously gonna be them Foundation. And

52:37

why The things that I think probably is ignored a lot by

52:39

a lot of. You know you

52:42

know Brian Johnson the guys bends yeah somewhat familiar

52:44

of yeah I'm not familiar with his like protocol

52:46

or and yeah but he email He's kind of

52:48

like obsess about like trying to live as long

52:50

as possible that he did our fall status of

52:53

a guy but he you job but that the

52:55

the problem is what I think he's missing is

52:57

also the component that are not talked about. not

52:59

like social connection and meeting because that's of as

53:01

I can really put a free health and and

53:04

longevity as wealth and aging because if your stress

53:06

all the time and you have no real meaning

53:08

upper and you'll feel connected to people and like

53:10

you better believe that. Like something like loneliness for

53:12

example is worse for your health and like smoking.

53:14

sit down for like it when or like like.

53:17

I think it's like one pack of cigarettes a

53:19

day or something that silks the point is this

53:21

is it has that a mental tax on your

53:23

body so I think those things are important to

53:25

remember. But from like what's gonna have what was

53:27

the One intervention as had the biggest impact on

53:29

aging like right now is it? I mean it

53:32

does seem to be like these. The fall standing

53:34

there for you me. We showed it in the

53:36

trial how much she couldn't breathe, increase tommy length

53:38

and a reduce into the biological age reduction. So

53:40

wacky applying for something. Called the X Prize which

53:42

is a surprise that is basically to given

53:44

awarded for anyone who can show three organ

53:47

systems ten or more years age reduction which

53:49

were which were able to we're going to

53:51

be able to show is like the new

53:53

health span pride. Yeah they really are so

53:55

cool that they have that's awesome. Yeah I

53:57

love I love the folk. The emphasis placed

53:59

on. This is training which may or may

54:01

not have been influenced by your tenure as personal

54:03

trainers. If I actually I do want to give

54:06

like a shout out of appreciation to a personal

54:08

trainers who I think our route truly on the

54:10

front of on health care for so many individuals

54:12

you know they are and they're They're the trusted

54:15

sources like a lot of my best. Like I

54:17

mean that not a good family doctors on your

54:19

bus peloton like. honestly I feel like trainers know

54:21

more about health when to Sicily doctors as just

54:24

I just the reality of ended and a lotta

54:26

ins a lot of people trust or trainers when

54:28

it comes to your health as. A lot of

54:30

my best, a lot my referrals works the law

54:32

the pieces a tree or actually from trainers because

54:35

they understand that do A hates the stuff that

54:37

Doctor com can do in their group where we

54:39

can do for them can actually be beneficial because

54:41

in get out chronic pain or can help with

54:43

the energy or accompanying that whatever it may be

54:45

that whatever intervention we're going to do at ultimately

54:47

is going to make them but as admit more

54:50

compliant with the other stuff because if you're tired

54:52

you're in pain or if you having sidey and

54:54

or whatever it like this type things it can

54:56

be really hard for you. Stick to a consistent

54:58

regiment. So. It does. What our

55:00

intervention can do is a can give

55:03

you that resiliency and give you that

55:05

ability to stick to those healthy behaviors

55:07

longer. Hello! That was a role of

55:09

filling mold is a trending concern for

55:11

people today. Yes, I mchale

55:13

as you jaundice and so is Dave. Ask

55:15

me in a lot of people who what

55:17

I'm talking about a for a while but

55:19

now I think we're going to be in

55:22

my twenty years will look back and will

55:24

be like wow toxic mold was like as

55:26

best those in like this era. wow it's

55:28

it's like that bad it's like every it's

55:30

almost like it's it's epidemic and it's exposure

55:32

we all get exposed to high like something

55:34

like two hundred fungal spores I think is

55:36

like what the average person has in their

55:39

bodies and meaning that if you measure these

55:41

different Michael toxins are gonna find them in

55:43

almost every once so that the they pseudo

55:45

is some people have genetic variations that dolan

55:47

and clearance or there by does of the

55:49

resiliency or the don't sweat no sweat is

55:51

one of the best ways and especially at

55:53

a camp he likes on a sweat it

55:56

has to be I saw movement be sweat

55:58

because it activates something called hormones and. The

56:00

reply pace which is I'd enzyme that

56:02

essentially helps to mobilize toxins from your

56:04

fat fry it, but that can only

56:06

get activated when you actually do exercise

56:09

and sweat. Doesn't get aggravated from Santa

56:11

Susana. Wow. That's super identifies.

56:13

Interesting cause some people don't sweat when they

56:15

work out as they wireman sweating like there

56:17

are is very hard for them to sweat.

56:19

I don't know if we fully figure that

56:22

out. The my theory at least on that

56:24

is that the there's I intercellular than to

56:26

sell a pathogen which is a fungal spores

56:28

hijack the South and basically as it is

56:30

in the way is kind of protecting yourself

56:32

from pretending like Mickey sweat less so he

56:34

didn't leave your body's whoa is yes because

56:37

and there's a Huge the there's actually a

56:39

Huge. Our theory on cancer now is call

56:41

Cel Suppression Theory by Markland Trends. Are

56:43

is probably the most unified theory about

56:45

cancer that's out There could be explained

56:47

all ten hamas of cancer and sell

56:49

Suppression theory basically says that there's interstellar

56:52

pathogens like organism like fungal organisms that

56:54

hijack the South and prevented from working

56:56

properly. so suppressing the South functions and

56:58

if suppresses like for example, cellular apoptosis.

57:00

So then the cells replicate indefinitely and

57:03

all these other things so badass by

57:05

their best theory out there that I

57:07

seen and and and a lot on

57:09

cause you society is trying to recognize

57:12

it. As well. It's also interesting because I know

57:14

that some people claim to be very sensitive to mold

57:16

you know the what the like look at the the

57:18

ads the ceilings right on like on any room is

57:20

a bit they enter to determine if there if they

57:22

perceive watered was it can just tell it like i

57:25

like willing to sell ya as he just the they

57:27

just how there's more because they can tell exurbs the

57:29

second to just said or start like brain fog or

57:31

whatever may be wiser that some people are so sensitive

57:33

to it is genetic like I've never I've never Yeah

57:36

exactly I'm not I'm I mean my my mom died

57:38

exposes yeah that would be added are taught at home

57:40

but so she had a hard time playing it. Out

57:42

but I didn't so it's is most likely

57:44

related to different mutations like I know Mts

57:46

and th Fr is probably one of them

57:48

but as other ones to a you can

57:50

look at and as I some people will

57:52

have to do testing to figure out but

57:54

other day that will again change management for

57:56

me it's like once you've known you're exposed

57:58

to more than friends. The relayed to edge of

58:01

treatments you can do to help get rid of

58:03

it from your biohackers of medication call call us dire

58:05

mean which is like that kind of a binder top

58:07

remove it and others are the protocols you can

58:09

do to help get rid of toxic mold but

58:11

is it is a big problem and I would say

58:13

toxic mold and lime disease like. Yes,

58:16

There's definitely pseudoscience enough space to the as be

58:18

careful to those. some doctors just tell everyone that

58:20

has has via that's not always the cause of

58:22

issues but but definitely is a still under diagnosed

58:25

in the mainstream medical community. Is there like out

58:27

what would say of the gold standard tests and

58:29

know whether or not you are sensitive to get

58:31

of odd that's genetics if the genetic testing to

58:33

together sensitivities while and then there's actual like desire

58:36

different more tests that you can just are in

58:38

the mail and they can ship them to your

58:40

house and and you can you can figure out

58:42

if you if you have Takimoto, are you familiar

58:45

with a condition called Serzh Crs. It.

58:47

Stands for chronic inflammatory Response

58:49

and around yeah. And. What

58:51

to do that? So I mean that you're

58:53

a again it's a dysfunctional immune system. So

58:56

your immune system think of it like a

58:58

child and if you don't find a child

59:00

properly is going to misbehave when this older

59:02

and so how do you train them into

59:05

some properly. Get. Exposed to

59:07

soil get exposed to pass get. Dirt

59:09

When you're ted, let your kids play and

59:11

do things like these things can actually help

59:13

to build a strong amuses. And we know

59:15

that from studies where it's children who grow

59:17

up on farms or have animals. Are.

59:20

Less likely to have allergies when you're older

59:22

or like c section burst like are more

59:24

likely to have army of conditions like and

59:26

we have an anti virus given during childhood

59:28

are more likely that bottom into the scissors

59:30

the wheat. We are sorry to understands that

59:32

there's this immune kind of resiliency that's built

59:35

and that and I like the analogy of

59:37

like bring the kids because it's like you

59:39

have to train your immune system and what

59:41

it among the best way to trade it

59:43

Actually funny enough is actually exercise and resistance

59:45

training Why? Because when you put on muscle

59:47

it up regulate something called t Regulatory self.

59:50

T regulatory cells are as a suggests

59:52

a regulates part of your immune system

59:54

and if they become dysfunctional than your

59:56

immune system can also. Become. Dysfunctional

59:58

and so having much. So is a

1:00:00

way to up regulate the function and kind

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of protective mechanism of that. wow and those

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play role in Autumn you need to the

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yeah exactly exactly and so with serves what's

1:00:09

happening is yours to immune system is sending

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disks signal of chronic inflammation. When he said

1:00:13

when it's eventually she starts to wise and

1:00:16

the signal stopping and that has to do

1:00:18

with of dysfunction and why is that dysfunction

1:00:20

starts for so many different reasons as it's

1:00:22

it's But the point is if you can

1:00:24

restore them into some from dysfunctional to normal

1:00:26

that's that's kind the overarching theme of what

1:00:29

we try to do and how do we

1:00:31

do that's one of the ways as actually

1:00:33

intravenous themselves because intravenous themselves more than anything

1:00:35

as a lot using it to be as

1:00:37

themselves are like. You. Know stuff though,

1:00:39

try to repair Reap we got issue but

1:00:42

when we're using these intravenously but they're doing

1:00:44

is Roxie Amina modulating or can I like

1:00:46

pressing the reboot but in our your immune

1:00:48

system that's why it's there's clinical trials for

1:00:50

like inflammatory bowel disease like rheumatoid arthritis, arthritis

1:00:52

or pieces actually going to remission got them

1:00:54

as. Why? Is that is

1:00:56

because this is reprogramming your immune system so

1:00:58

set of just suppressing your immune system as

1:01:01

like or if you her like Prentice owner

1:01:03

methotrexate like those are just drugs. I liked

1:01:05

suppressor immune system which is great like it's

1:01:07

still have thoughts but that's not really solving

1:01:09

the problem right is suppressing it because you

1:01:11

haven't over an active immune system since I've

1:01:13

tried to suppress it had we reprogram it

1:01:15

to work better and as kind of the

1:01:17

hot area of research we still haven't fully

1:01:19

figure it out but we're getting pretty like

1:01:21

we have. We have very like affective results

1:01:24

with like up you know what are. The

1:01:26

path to the protocols be kind of have with

1:01:28

peptides and are by regulators and and previous themselves

1:01:30

and then obviously the F M T as a

1:01:32

micro is alive your immune systems in the got

1:01:34

right. Yeah, so it's so

1:01:36

interesting. Vitamin D correct me if I'm

1:01:38

wrong, but plays a role in increasing

1:01:40

T regulatory. Yeah, yeah and that's why

1:01:42

in Canada kind of sucks because as

1:01:44

we have I think we have one

1:01:46

of the highest prevalence of autoimmune conditions

1:01:48

when they multiple sclerosis in the world.

1:01:50

Because like a per capita opposite of

1:01:53

yeah relationship because the lack of Vitamin

1:01:55

D, Smile like a son essentially wow

1:01:57

and know if if memory serves about

1:01:59

two three. Orders of the global population

1:02:01

is is deficient or insufficient. Invite him and

1:02:03

it's crazy because and in in the Arab

1:02:05

world because I i do work into by

1:02:07

two other women are covered up in. That's.

1:02:10

Right and so and women's health of

1:02:12

their like so neglected is actually kind

1:02:14

of is really sad and like no

1:02:16

one's average associates. it's just like man

1:02:19

everyone's walk around efficient soon and doesn't

1:02:21

matter how much standards are like the

1:02:23

desert but like they're covered up. Wow

1:02:25

yeah yeah I remember reading a I'm

1:02:27

A review that highlighted a role for

1:02:29

Vitamin D Multiple Sclerosis as being like

1:02:32

the only nutraceutical. like the only vitamin

1:02:34

that actually has no evidence in in

1:02:36

in support of our a therapeutic role

1:02:38

in the Center Multiple Sclerosis. Yeah. And

1:02:40

I think the and again what less combative principle

1:02:42

of like what's the harm. Like. Into him

1:02:44

at him and he does not just like

1:02:47

with it does no harm nor the versus

1:02:49

versus taking like allies is like that Amina

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Suppressants they are as I should will harm

1:02:53

like he received with risk of malignancies and

1:02:55

cancer and the can increase like pens looking

1:02:57

increase it with diabetes like was always harms

1:02:59

with these medications right? So my thing is

1:03:02

why not take a minimally. Invasive

1:03:04

approach fairs and as the hot wax

1:03:06

a lot of people today are I'm

1:03:08

ah, talk about nicotine. You utilizing nicotine

1:03:10

as a on as a cognitive booster

1:03:12

like doesn't leave Africa it is. Ask

1:03:14

me Azaria Yeah, I'm Tucker Carlson famously

1:03:16

is obsessed with sins. You know he's

1:03:18

like mouth pouches. the brain Yeah. arm

1:03:20

Germany. Any experience? Any thoughts their? I

1:03:22

know that's difficult to parse the research

1:03:24

on nicotine from the research on in

1:03:26

Smyrna how normally is basically acetylcholine receptors

1:03:28

and acetylcholine is a new fans mid

1:03:31

or in your brain. So when it

1:03:33

when you do like sublingual nicotine. Is

1:03:35

great and the your time for example it

1:03:37

stimulates acetylcholine production and your brain and as

1:03:39

acetylcholine is a transmitter the house with concentration

1:03:41

and focus and all that of and that's

1:03:43

why is a know tropics So I think

1:03:46

in that forum yes it does it. You're

1:03:48

not. You're. Not inhaling all the carcinogens

1:03:50

that come with tobacco rights of people. I

1:03:52

think with your nicotine is bad for you

1:03:54

but it's not a black or white yellow

1:03:56

exactly. Think there is benefits for a from

1:03:58

of cognitive enhancement prospect. But

1:04:00

about you know the one that Blake I

1:04:03

think the when the peptides that it will

1:04:05

get so much attention to the next few

1:04:07

years. A car club though T L O

1:04:09

T H R Familiar A clove oil gas

1:04:11

prices is is a trans membrane protein which

1:04:13

means as a sick anti protein and it's

1:04:15

it's it's part is an amazing potential for

1:04:17

dementia and for him as a know topic

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and cognitive enhancement it may even increase I

1:04:21

Q it's A it's a what we are

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next product is actually call so gene therapy

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know we're starting this trial in March Dinner

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Do Ball. Is. One of the like

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key researchers in that field right up north

1:04:31

nor Cal for a has area young guy

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cause of their blimey there's a home for

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think she's yeah, she's identified it as being

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one of these a man mile kinds or

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something express during that eyes now Yep yeah.

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threat. If Austin and Cotto are both get

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released during high intensity exercise, it's a dirt

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has a toilet increase. Obviously to to have

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them increase all the time like weekend in

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the gene therapies it's always amazing benefits. That's

1:04:51

why we chose fast that in as a

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first ballot and close though as or second

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product. Wow, you're a true bio hacker. Me:

1:04:58

I. Feel like oftentimes are the term by hacking

1:05:00

is is applied to things like getting more son

1:05:02

and his how can I add and like thing

1:05:04

is taking you know appropriate supplementation by the were

1:05:06

actually like getting into the nitty gritty of of

1:05:08

of reprogramming that which makes us human which I

1:05:10

think is so excited. yeah that's that's why Dave

1:05:13

when I went a thigh Cassius like this this

1:05:15

is the if this is a day I've been

1:05:17

waiting for my lonely what you said for likes

1:05:19

to veto the fourth and for him and the

1:05:21

other way I've way for the day for like

1:05:23

two decades has to have you want some of

1:05:25

to a one hundred and eighty is that His

1:05:28

goal at. I mean I think he's yeah, I

1:05:30

think he's even said he would like to live

1:05:32

more than that by have a bias I buy.

1:05:34

Yeah, I mean I can realistically see lights like

1:05:36

are like millennials and Gens. He is that if

1:05:38

you start these. Therapies, Now I can

1:05:40

see you living till you're like hundred twenty or

1:05:42

even more with like a healthy like not like

1:05:44

we're Dicaprio the next. I don't think another we

1:05:46

can feel like we're not there yet where we

1:05:48

can say organ lift or two hundred or something

1:05:50

like that may with all the one day. But

1:05:53

for now what I can say pretty confidently say

1:05:55

is that you'll be having a higher quality of

1:05:57

life for longer period of time. Wow Super exciting.

1:06:00

Com. And will. This is fascinating. I feel like

1:06:02

we've barely scratched the surface but there. but I'm

1:06:04

I'm super excited to I now have you in

1:06:06

my own personal. We'll have some people that I

1:06:08

can refer to and Anna and source information from

1:06:10

because this is all like incredibly exciting stuff. Yeah

1:06:13

I'm I'm now on the onset of forties I've

1:06:15

started to think about you know and yeah exactly

1:06:17

I think you are aiming for yourself by. Also

1:06:19

we can fix up your back and pretty confident

1:06:21

we can do that. South Side as I see.

1:06:23

So our the first soccer in Canada to do

1:06:25

interventional a pain with that regenerative medicine Because it

1:06:28

out and the reason was because I saw these

1:06:30

patients. With chronic neck and back pain of

1:06:32

like they're not getting better and like a

1:06:34

lot I'm still in the back surgery if

1:06:36

you if it outcomes of like fifty fifty

1:06:38

long term with discuss feel back surgeries and

1:06:40

I'm so that's how I got into as

1:06:42

soon as I did and special pains I

1:06:45

might have a lot. Expertise was fine yeah

1:06:47

and things will happen. I mean I was

1:06:49

when I early twenty twenty two am I

1:06:51

think I think it was early twenty twenty

1:06:53

two I developed a foreigner syndrome associated with

1:06:55

migrants. We ruled out all the bad stuff

1:06:57

on or syndromes like this like you know

1:06:59

constellation of. You know, three hallmark features,

1:07:01

toasters, meiosis and and he dresses and ah

1:07:04

my yeah, so I developed dislike sunken eyelid

1:07:06

and i where are you know immediately as

1:07:08

travelling of time or as hims I had

1:07:10

gotten back home I went to the emergency

1:07:12

room. I ruled out of the bad stuff

1:07:14

you know, brain tumor, stroke, crowded dissection, mass

1:07:16

in the lungs, or that's all that bad

1:07:18

stuff and I think it's either for me,

1:07:20

you know it could be due to. Bars.

1:07:24

The occasional migraine that I get or just

1:07:26

idiopathic. but like you know, things happen and

1:07:28

so it's good to be. Would have some

1:07:30

of these more novel approaches in your back

1:07:32

pocket for when they do. Yeah, yeah exactly.

1:07:34

And it's and a lot of the comes

1:07:36

back to like Laos A like first principles

1:07:39

are fundamental principles of biology. Like what's causing

1:07:41

was unlike process and it can we target

1:07:43

that's and narrow on that's. Would. Only

1:07:45

getting better and better as each

1:07:47

each year passes com domain Well

1:07:49

I'm. Again, fascinating and I've got

1:07:52

one last question for you before we wrap been

1:07:54

working: People can agree on social media and learn

1:07:56

more about your work. and maybe even like you

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know, Booker women here click Yeah! I mean

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for me at the Are.econ ha ha and

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on to on Instagram I think else I've

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tic toc the region, dog bites eternal.health as

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or website and you can go in there

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and book an appointment. I am super inaccessible

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know I travel and other people and like

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to so many things that have a team

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going into by our Via when in Egypt.

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we have a partnership in Japan and an

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at Amazing Dude. Well I'm thanks again for

1:08:33

come in and as a super fun last

1:08:35

question like of has written a show what

1:08:37

is living a genius life means you. Building.

1:08:40

Resiliency and your body to deal with

1:08:42

all the health stressors are nerve, environment

1:08:44

and and there's so many. There.

1:08:47

Are so many and it's only getting

1:08:49

worse because it's called evolutionary mismatch, which

1:08:51

is basically the biggest. It's the best

1:08:53

explanation as to why we have chronic

1:08:56

disease. Our. Environment is mismatched

1:08:58

to our genes that we have. Ah,

1:09:00

four. right? Our genes amount over

1:09:02

not like hundreds of thousands of years to. kind

1:09:04

of, you know, Be. Be

1:09:06

active, go with you know hunt animals with

1:09:08

the only things rights and our environment now

1:09:10

obviously sitting and beavers greens are doing all

1:09:13

these other things are mismatched with when our

1:09:15

genes are meant to do so as evolutionary

1:09:17

Miss Bats is only getting wider and wider

1:09:19

because of modern society which is greatly we

1:09:21

have all these amazing things but then is

1:09:23

not grief warehouse with like how do we

1:09:25

still resiliency nobody's to kind of close act

1:09:27

of the shade gap that gap yeah I

1:09:30

love it super important Will thanks doctor Gone

1:09:32

for coming in. This is a again super

1:09:34

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1:09:36

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