On the Gist, Trump’s most recent briefing.In the interview, John Burn-Murdoch of the Financial Times is here to discuss data visualization and the COVID-19 outbreak. He and Mike talk about the useful ways to analyze data, why countries are often too large to be helpful samples, and what the data says about the future.In the spiel, South Dakota’s Gov. Noem failure to prevent an outbreak at a pork plant in her state.Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices