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More than my guess today.

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Yeah. I mean, Donald Trump was

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the devil, which makes my guess today

1:11

worse than that 'The. The

1:13

whirlwind started in twenty

1:15

eighteen when he was elected governor of the third

1:17

most populous state in the US, a margin

1:20

of just thirty two thousand votes.

1:22

Hardly what pundits would call a mandate

1:24

for sweeping policy changes, but

1:27

then a once in a century 'The

1:29

hits. AND HE DARE TO QUESTION

1:31

THE LOCKDOWN POLICIES OF THE D. C. ESTABLISHMENT

1:34

'The ON THE SIDE OF Maintaining FREEDOM

1:36

FOR THE PEOPLE OF ESTATE. VERY

1:39

RISKEY. But this immediately put

1:41

him right in the crosshairs of the national

1:43

media who wanted to make them

1:46

their new favorite, you know, 'The

1:49

killer monster. CBS

1:52

even fabricated a story about

1:54

him on sixty minutes and never

1:57

to this day has retracted it

1:59

even when 'The point out

2:02

the lie doesn't 'The. But

2:05

it's okay they can lie because he's a Republican

2:07

governor. Then he goes on

2:09

a streak of common sense reforms that

2:11

draw the ire of left wing force from

2:13

teachers, unions, to banks, to the

2:15

Walt Disney 'The, and

2:18

all of that is on top of

2:20

him trying to help his wife with

2:22

her battle of cancer 176

2:25

guiding his state's recovery from one of

2:27

the most devastating hurricanes in history

2:30

Meanwhile, outlets like MSNBC keep

2:32

labeling him dangerous. Yeah.

2:35

Mitt Romney was too and Actually,

2:40

I would label Mitt Romney dangerous.

2:42

Now, anyway, despite the media's very

2:44

best effort, he runs for reelection

2:47

last fall. He wins by

2:49

nineteen points. That is the largest

2:52

raw vote margin of victory in his

2:54

state's history. These

2:56

are the adventures of Ron DeSantis,

2:59

the swashbuckling governor

3:01

of Florida. We had to pay Arrow

3:03

Flynn for the use of that word swash Buckler.

3:07

He 'The a ton of action into his first

3:09

term in op in office, but

3:12

talking with him you get

3:14

the distinct feeling that he's

3:16

just getting started. Today,

3:20

please welcome governor. Ron

3:22

DeSantis. Before we get

3:25

started, I want you to listen to something. Nobody

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thinks that I can take their house and borrow against

3:29

the house. Oh, no. Have title insurance

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3:35

They would call 'The, you know What

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is all in you after I've stolen

3:40

the title, borrowed against it or sold the property

3:42

or done whatever I've done with it. It's sixty

3:44

to ninety days, even figure out that they're

3:46

the victim of this crime. You know, by that you start getting

3:48

foreclosure notices 176 you realize

3:51

you've got four mortgages on your house. Not

3:53

only that, you don't even own your home anymore. It's

3:55

not even in your name. While that guy sounds

3:57

super friendly, doesn't he? He got caught

3:59

forging and refiling people's

4:01

home titles. Lots

4:04

of others who have done this

4:06

haven't been caught yet. Home

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title fraud is on the rise in

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4:53

Reagan said that everybody

4:56

has their own time. He said, I

4:58

didn't I didn't change. You know, I was the same

5:01

guy with with cold

5:03

water. He said, but it it's

5:05

like he just kinda 'The goes on, he just

5:08

slot in, and then you pop back

5:10

out and your time has

5:11

passed.

5:13

176 think your time we're slotting

5:15

in now, Well, I think, you know, you

5:17

look Glenn like in the last five years for

5:19

me being governor. Had I

5:21

been like a US senator or

5:24

something else, I would not have been

5:26

able -- Correct. -- to do the things I've done

5:28

or get the get the notoriety that I've

5:30

done. People in other states probably wouldn't know

5:32

who heck I was -- Right. -- I was put

5:35

you know, God put me in a position to

5:37

be at the helm of the third largest state at

5:39

age forty, youngest governor in the country. Right. And,

5:42

you know, we had a lot of good things going for us. did

5:44

a lot of good things, then COVID hits, then

5:46

all this other stuff with with cultural marks

5:48

'The is is attacking our 'The, and I'm

5:50

standing up against that, saying if it did Disney.

5:52

So, you know, you're in positions to

5:55

lead 176 some people do some

5:57

people don't. And I think that I've been able

5:59

to to lead under difficult circumstances

6:02

in a way that I think people

6:03

appreciate. So you went to congress, you were a

6:05

'The. For a while

6:08

kind of a tea party kind of

6:09

guy. Would you consider yourself a tea party? I mean, I was the

6:11

founder of the Freedom 'The. We were anti establishment.

6:14

'The wanted to overturn

6:16

the DC order and really bring fundamental

6:18

change. I know you were involved in that. Yeah. you

6:21

know, it was time happened. It was time

6:23

what happened because it but there was a time period.

6:25

And I I see it differently now.

6:27

There was a time period where I thought

6:30

all of that was waste. It didn't nothing.

6:32

And I don't think so. I think we

6:34

planted early seeds 176 you're

6:37

seeing it a much more

6:39

mature. Kind

6:41

of approach to it now. Much more

6:43

wise too. I think what happened so so the

6:45

twenty ten, I was not in that. I got in

6:47

in twenty twelve. So I was in it for three terms.

6:49

I think the twenty ten was a massive wave,

6:51

but I think that the wave

6:53

just was got ahead of the DC

6:55

Republicans. They didn't know what to do with it.

6:57

And I think they decided that the way

7:00

they wanted to govern the insiders is

7:02

to focus more on batting back

7:04

our own vase rather than trying

7:06

to harness the energy from our base to take

7:09

down Obama and to beat Obama. And I think

7:11

that lead that sowed the seeds

7:13

for Trump being able to win the nation. People

7:16

were so frustrated with the DC

7:18

republicans nothing was changing they

7:20

wanted something more dramatic But

7:22

I agree with

7:23

you. I think a lot of the people that got into politics

7:25

then on the grassroots level are

7:28

still some of the people that are really making

7:30

a difference 176 even the next

7:32

generation is 'The. But you

7:35

still see the same kind of problems, and we're going

7:37

to get to Florida here in a second. But I

7:40

wanna kinda take it chronologically with

7:42

you. The the

7:45

DC politics, the

7:47

the geo piece still doesn't seem to

7:49

really understand. I think we are

7:51

we are in

7:54

a a time period where

7:56

in our 176 maybe

7:59

very soon, we could see the

8:01

collapse of this country if

8:03

we're not careful and wise,

8:05

and there's so many people that just in

8:08

politics in in Washington that

8:10

either don't see it or they're

8:12

so arrogant that they just think,

8:14

oh, we where do it? Or

8:18

it's or they're part of the

8:20

problem. Well, just think about we're in

8:22

Texas. Right? I'm from Florida. It wasn't

8:24

for Florida and Texas in this country

8:26

-- Yes. -- some of the other Ritz. Where would we

8:28

be? Right. I mean, you know, we would

8:30

be California writ large. Yes.

8:33

We'd be suffering under the cloak of woke

8:35

ideology, and America

8:37

as we know it would would be gone. I think the

8:39

challenge for us and think the people inside

8:41

DC just don't don't see kind of

8:43

where the battle lines are is,

8:45

you know, we're very much in post constitutional

8:48

era. You know, we have a bureaucracy that's

8:50

running totally 'The. It's

8:52

been weaponized against factions of society.

8:54

It doesn't like. It is not accountable to

8:57

the electorate. I mean, we had an election in

8:59

twenty sixteen where president

9:01

was elected, republican president

9:03

Trump Trump selected, and the government

9:05

decided that they didn't wanna accept the results

9:07

of the election so think, like, if you look back

9:10

in the past when we were fighting big government under Ronald

9:12

Reagan, you know, yeah, 'The was a 'The.

9:15

But the way it's different. And I think it does

9:17

call into question in -- No. -- governs. Are

9:19

we governing according to what the founding fathers

9:22

envision? Or are we in this

9:24

this era in which, you know, the elites are gonna

9:26

get their way one way or another? That's really the central

9:29

fight. It was two thousand

9:31

three, I think. I went to the White House. I met

9:33

with George w Bush. And

9:37

I said, you know, we we were

9:39

starting to be mired up in

9:41

in Iraq and everything else. And I said, mister

9:43

president, he

9:45

spoke very frankly with me

9:47

off the record. And I said, where

9:50

is this guy? Where is this guy?

9:52

You know? There's just

9:55

speaking and saying, this is what it is. And

9:57

he talked about the responsibilities of

9:59

a president. And then he said, I

10:01

said, what what happens here with

10:03

the next guy. And he said, don't

10:05

worry. The next guy that

10:08

gets in. He said he's gonna

10:10

sit in this chair he's gonna have

10:12

'The of the same people advise 176

10:14

they will realize the president's

10:17

hands are tied. He's

10:19

got to go down this road. And

10:22

he said that to kind of comfort me

10:24

and I was freaked out by

10:26

'The, like, oh, what Good are

10:28

you? What good is any

10:30

president if the

10:32

same people are just running things? Dan,

10:34

I mean, you know, article to invest the executive

10:37

power in that elected president. They don't

10:39

they don't invest it in the permanent

10:41

bureaucracy courtesy, but yet this has been able

10:43

to really consolidate. Why is it consolidated

10:45

though? Congress has abdicated

10:48

its responsibility they're supposed

10:50

to make laws. What do they do? They kinda

10:52

do suggestions until the bureaucracy to

10:54

figure it out. Well, that's a transfer of power from

10:56

the American people. To unelected bureaucrats.

10:59

How did they handle their most potent

11:01

weapon, what James Madison said, the most potent

11:03

the power of the purse? They passed continuing

11:06

resolutions to keep the government going

11:08

on auto. 176, okay. Well, if you have the FBI

11:10

where there's 'The there, you're

11:12

not holding them accountable by continuing the

11:14

gravy train to them. Correct. If there's

11:16

abuse of government, the way

11:18

to do it is to have the House of Representatives

11:21

stop funding the abuses. They have never

11:23

been willing to do for our, really, my entire

11:25

adult lifetime. And so the government

11:27

just keeps going on autopilot, and

11:29

the founders would have said it's 'The it's you know,

11:31

the deep state's not a conspiracy. It's

11:34

the natural nature. It's the logical 'The

11:36

of human nature without constitutional

11:39

constraints or accountability of course, you're

11:41

gonna have a consolidation of power. And then

11:43

I think what's happened in our country because the

11:45

universities are churning out people that have the

11:47

same kind of philosophical bent.

11:49

Mhmm. They're all gravitating to be

11:51

in DC. That's why you'd have DC is

11:53

the most democratic jurisdiction in

11:56

the country, ninety five percent to five

11:58

in the twenty twenty election, and

12:00

it raises huge implications for whether

12:03

we're self governing people. So but we

12:05

I don't think our founders saw one

12:08

of the branches just ceding

12:10

their power to the other. The opposite. I mean, you

12:12

know, Federal fifty 176. Ambition must

12:15

be made to counteract ambition. You're

12:17

the president. I'm in the legislature. You're gonna

12:19

try to increase your power. I'm gonna be very jealous

12:22

of that. And I'm gonna push back because

12:24

I don't want my branch to be subservient to

12:26

you. Right. But that's not what's happened. And why is that?

12:28

I think it's because It's

12:30

easier for them to remain in office to

12:32

pass the buck. Yeah. Because when you have 'The

12:34

When you have to make big decisions, there's

12:36

gonna be some people that like it. There could be other

12:38

people that like it. And so I think the

12:41

inertia of, okay, their number

12:43

one goal is to remain in office. And

12:45

so they're fine. Giving away their

12:47

power as long as they get to be nominal

12:49

members of the legislature

12:51

perpetuity. That's not the way

12:53

the system starts to operate. Okay. So

12:55

you you leave congress

12:57

before before you leave congress. You're there

13:00

on the baseball field because you're a good baseball

13:02

player. Yeah. You're on the baseball

13:04

field the day of the shooting. Tell

13:06

me a little bit about

13:07

that. So a lot of people, I

13:10

guess, don't appreciate, like, the members of Congress,

13:12

they take this baseball game very seriously.

13:14

I know. So it's a charity game every year. They play

13:16

it at Washington National 'The. And in

13:18

this hardball. It is bay. Now they're not throwing,

13:20

you know, very hard, but it is what it is.

13:23

And so we're they would practice

13:25

for, like, six weeks leading into it.

13:27

And, you know, III

13:29

played 'The, sometimes I didn't. But but anyway,

13:31

so we're we're there. So the the day before

13:34

the game we have practiced. And I'm at

13:36

third base, Jeff Duncan from South Carolina.

13:38

A congressman who was at short stop. He he drove

13:40

'The. His aid drove me Jeff to the

13:42

field. We had already taken batting packs for the

13:44

shaggin balls. And I just didn't wanna get caught

13:46

in traffic that day, so I told Jeff, why don't we just

13:48

get out of here early beats of traffic? Okay. So

13:51

we went, we walked, took off our

13:53

spikes, walked to the car, some guy stops,

13:55

Jeff and I, and he asked Jeff, he's, like, are

13:57

those the Republicans or are those the Democrats?

13:59

And Jeff's, like, that's the Republican congressional baseball

14:02

team. Guys like, okay, turned around. He

14:04

starts walking towards the third base side of

14:06

the field, you know, outside where the stands are.

14:08

We get in the car. We leave.

14:11

I get to Capitol Hill, turn on

14:13

and 'The in the gym showering, getting ready

14:15

to shower, the shooting at the the baseball

14:17

field is there. So what he did, he went

14:20

to his van. He pulled

14:22

out a rifle and a pistol. He

14:24

sat. He he set up right on the third

14:26

base side of the dugout. And started

14:28

shooting. So so Jeff and I would have been number

14:30

one in the line of fire. Had we stayed for

14:33

probably five five or seven more

14:35

minutes? As it was, he's shooting

14:37

and he shot Steve Skalise who was playing second

14:39

base. Ten minutes before Skalise was shot,

14:42

I'm fielding ground balls and throwing double

14:44

plays to Skalise second base,

14:46

and then ten minutes away from scratch. So

14:49

the the only reason there wasn't a

14:51

big massacre that day is because

14:53

Scholize was a member of the Republican leadership.

14:56

He got a capital police detail

14:59

because of that. So we had capital police

15:01

officers there not because any other

15:03

'The, just because of Steve. So they started

15:05

engaging 176 they ended up shooting and

15:07

killing this guy. So he shot a few people. Skolese

15:09

was the only congressman that got shot. But

15:11

he would have had free reign for the

15:14

whole thing. And this was a guy. So

15:16

as soon as we we we we saw

15:18

people start to try to figure out who was. And

15:20

the guy had a Twitter account, and he was a raging

15:23

leftist. And we saw his picture, I

15:25

showed at the Dunkin' I'm like, that's the guy. Jeff's

15:27

like, that's the guy. And it was clearly politically

15:29

motivated and, you know, one of the things that

15:31

happened was the 'The. They tried to just

15:33

totally ignore that. They just I mean, just think

15:36

about it. If there was somebody who

15:38

once listened to your show, who did anything,

15:41

pull it. They would be all over you,

15:43

telling your advertising, all this stuff. Instead,

15:45

this was the a clearly politically motivated

15:48

assassination 'The, and they basically

15:50

just varied. And the FBI said,

15:52

initially, It was not something that was

15:55

politically motivated. It was death suicide

15:57

by a cop. I mean, how outrageous is

16:00

this? And so you know, it was the type of thing

16:02

where, you know, you see that and I

16:04

just thought, okay, you know, my my life would

16:06

have been different. Maybe if I had been out

16:08

there for ten more minutes, that's not something

16:10

you typically think about, but I

16:12

'The, it was a pretty close call. The

16:13

press

16:17

Is there any how

16:20

does this turn around? I

16:23

mean, CBS did sixty

16:25

'The. They've never

16:27

corrected

16:28

it. It was bald faced lie.

16:30

To 'The knowledge,

16:32

I had never even apologized for it.

16:35

Tried to defend it. I mean, you know, they they

16:37

they tried to defend it from other angles

16:40

they did acknowledge that they kind of or at least

16:42

tacitly acknowledge that they got they got cut

16:44

red handed. But I think

16:46

it's just arrogance. I think that they believe

16:48

that, look, if they put out something false

16:51

Yes, people like you and me aren't gonna believe

16:53

it

16:53

because we're on to 'The, but there may be a segment

16:55

of people that believe it. Any sellers

16:57

learn smaller. yeah. It is. And so but I think

17:00

what's happened is because they keep doing

17:02

this, they lose credibility and

17:04

lose trust more and more. So they're playing

17:06

for smaller audience that will actually believe

17:08

of what they say. I think a good example of this is, like, just

17:11

think about the last few years in Florida. I

17:13

mean, they did all they could to to

17:15

demonize me in

17:16

COVID. They act like we're a COVID wasteland,

17:18

how reckless to have kids in school business school.

17:20

You're a

17:20

chief grandma killer. And yet, what how

17:22

did the American people respond to that? They

17:25

responded by visiting Florida on record

17:27

numbers moving to Florida on record 'The.

17:29

So that tells me that what they're doing

17:31

just isn't working. And in fact, the

17:33

sixty 'The. You know, we looked into see, like, the defamation.

17:36

It's very difficult for someone like me to do it.

17:38

But the reason why I mean, two reasons. One,

17:40

I'm governor. I can't be getting involved in litigation,

17:42

but two, is like, I couldn't show 'The, it

17:45

benefited me -- Mhmm. -- because it was

17:47

so obvious that they wanted they

17:49

would they they're threatened by me and my six in

17:51

Florida, and they wanted to try something to

17:53

to to to to rough me 176, and

17:55

they really face planted. So I'd

17:58

go in and say, wait a 'The, you know, I'm

18:00

better known now and more people probably

18:02

support me now, but I think it's just

18:05

there's gotta be a recognition on the financial

18:07

incentives on some of this stuff because

18:09

if you were to pivot some, you

18:11

know, there is a bigger market to be able

18:13

to be had. I think the problem though is because I've

18:16

talked to, like, heads of corporations

18:18

who oversee some of these news channels. And

18:20

and they they understand, but I think part of the problem

18:22

is it's like the 'The run the asylum

18:24

there. Oh. If you wanted to move CNN

18:27

or NBC to center

18:29

or even 'The even, like, throw us a

18:31

bone once in a while, you'd have to fire

18:33

the entire company because they're all

18:36

wired. They're getting into media because

18:39

they want to change policy. They

18:41

want to impose their views

18:43

on the rest of us, but they know they couldn't get elected

18:46

to anything. So they're not gonna be able to do that.

18:48

So this is a way for them to be able

18:50

to have some power over what's going on

18:52

in society. So it's very difficult to see

18:54

how you do. But here's just five I mean, during

18:57

COVID, so like, you know, Disney World is open

18:59

in Florida. Disneyland is closed in California.

19:01

Universal is open in in Orlando. It's

19:03

closed in California. And, you know,

19:06

these executives are like, Florida is doing

19:08

it right. California's doing it

19:10

wrong. It's a disaster. They're all saying this. They're

19:12

telling me this privately, and yet their news

19:14

arms of those companies are reporting just

19:16

the opposite. They're saying how bad Florida

19:19

is how good California 176. And I'm just

19:21

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I remember when you and you talk about

21:19

it in the book and it is destinating,

21:22

the decision to to open

21:24

the state up. And I remember my wife

21:27

and I prayed for you at night because that

21:30

was extraordinarily risky.

21:32

I mean, we we can't forget.

21:35

Let's why I give people at the very beginning

21:37

a pass. I don't care. You were for 'The. You

21:39

were for closing everything down. At the very beginning,

21:42

they were welding people in their

21:44

homes. In China, we had no

21:46

idea what was coming our way. But

21:50

even when you said go,

21:53

it wasn't clear that

21:55

that was the right 'The. Just

21:59

medically speaking wasn't clear was the

22:01

right move I remember praying for you going

22:04

Lord give him strength and please

22:07

advice because this could

22:09

go horribly wrong.

22:12

I was thrilled that you

22:14

did it. It was unpopular though. I mean,

22:17

I'm glad I didn't have to make the

22:19

decision. It was un it was unpopular. mean,

22:21

I think part of the problem was There

22:23

was data and evidence supporting what

22:25

I was doing, but it was getting no idea what

22:27

to me. They had their narrative and that's just

22:29

what they were gonna do. So I talked about it little bit

22:31

in the book. We all gotten models from

22:33

these epidemiologists. Every governor did,

22:35

and White House was looking at 'The too, about

22:37

the hospitalization spikes that were gonna

22:40

happen. And they were project thing.

22:42

I mean, horrific horrific

22:44

death because we wouldn't have

22:46

enough hospital beds to care for almost

22:48

any patient other than COVID. so

22:51

it's like, okay, you know, you either need to, you

22:53

know, to separate and and not have, you

22:55

know, groups getting together to to reduce the

22:57

spread, or you're gonna have some and, you know, in Florida,

22:59

I'm sitting here third largest state where

23:02

an international hub, where domestic

23:04

tourism 176, and I got elderly.

23:06

I've got senior citizens I've got

23:08

almost four thousand long term care facilities.

23:11

I've got elderly lined up in condos

23:13

all across the coast, particularly in southern

23:15

Florida. So this was an existential threat

23:18

to our state in terms of something that's

23:20

affecting elderly people. But you looked

23:22

at those models 176 they were just grievously

23:24

wrong. And I'm following it to the day. I mean,

23:26

like, I'm looking to see what they're predicting for

23:28

Florida, and I'm seeing it's much less,

23:30

and then I'm seeing it's much less. And so this is, like,

23:32

late 'The, early April twenty twenty. You

23:35

also had people like Bhattacharya from Stanford

23:37

that are looking at the antibodies. Well, it turns

23:39

out a lot of these people had antibodies That

23:42

means it had spread far enough that

23:44

doing this indefinitely was just not gonna

23:46

work. It was also mattered that it also

23:48

meant that it was not as lethal as we initially

23:50

fear. Because whatever's testing positive,

23:52

there's way more people who had it. Therefore,

23:54

the death rate was lower. So we looked at all

23:56

those. And then I was just concerned about the

23:58

toll You know, it's one thing to say, you know,

24:01

take two weeks off from school or whatever. That's

24:03

not that's not great, but it's but to just

24:05

say different. And I think that thing that really

24:07

gave me the determination was Fauci came

24:09

out in sometime in April of twenty

24:11

twenty. And he was asked, well, when can

24:14

people open? And he's like, when

24:16

there's no cases and no deaths Remember

24:18

it? That means that manages

24:21

it from slow the spread for a few

24:23

weeks to all of a sudden lock down

24:25

until when because you're never gonna get

24:27

to that point. So basically, what Fauci was saying,

24:30

the default posture of the United States needed

24:32

to be locked down. And that was unacceptable

24:34

to me. So I was like, okay. We're gonna do this. And

24:36

so we worked on all that. And particularly what the

24:38

schools was very important in the businesses. And

24:41

you know what happened was as

24:43

we got into June, people are

24:45

like, you know what? They they didn't admit it publicly,

24:47

you know, maybe the governor was right. Things seem to be going

24:49

good. But then the south, you know, we get we got

24:51

a summer wave in COVID, that's just the way it was.

24:53

So we get hit with the and media is like,

24:55

DeSantis caused it. He's

24:57

reckless, opening the state. Right.

25:00

This is all his fault. But, you know, I knew that that

25:02

wasn't the reason because I had looked

25:04

to see the different charts of how

25:06

the waves had been in other parts of the world.

25:08

Whether you lock down or not, it was a six

25:10

to eight week cycle -- Yeah. -- and then it wouldn't move. Now

25:12

we didn't appreciate at the time just how sharply

25:15

seasonal this was. I started to say

25:17

that big nine months into me as well just saying

25:19

it's just saying it's seasonal. Now they all admitted it's

25:21

seasonal, but was obvious because it was

25:23

happening. So I was in a situation where

25:26

Fauci saying to shut down. I had every 'The member

25:28

of Congress from Florida write me a letter saying,

25:31

you're killing people, you're

25:32

reckless, you need to shut down this state,

25:34

you can't have kids in school, all that in July,

25:36

can't be in your position.

25:39

With the data that you have, but

25:41

still If you're 'The, you

25:44

still had to have lingering

25:46

doubt. Did you at any point,

25:49

did you look and go, god. I

25:51

'The, I I really think

25:54

I'm right, but gosh, what if I'm

25:56

wrong? Yeah. I I mean, you know, clearly,

25:58

'The had a humility and all this. Humility.

26:01

I mean, you know, I'm just a

26:02

governor. I mean, I'm working on the data, and I

26:04

I got into 176, and I ended up, I mean, by the chartering

26:06

team. He's got to DeSantis knew the data more than a lot

26:08

of the doctors 176

26:09

potentially doing it. You know,

26:11

I started to get a lot of supporters, you know, friends,

26:13

like, long term economy is like, man,

26:15

you are you're getting killed. You

26:18

need to do something different, you know,

26:20

you need to mandate mask, you need to do

26:22

just do a two week shutdown, just do something,

26:24

you know, The parents, you know, the grandparents

26:26

are upset about the kids going back to school soon.

26:29

176, you know, I was just like, look, I was like,

26:32

I think that would be harmful to do everything

26:34

you're telling 'The. It may be

26:36

beneficial for me in the short term politically.

26:38

Mhmm. Maybe I've dug myself a whole politically

26:41

that I don't recover 'The. It is possible

26:43

But my job is to defend the

26:45

jobs and the well-being of the people

26:47

that I represent. I can't be worried about

26:50

my own job. Over that. And

26:52

so I basically said, let's let the political chips

26:54

fall where they may. I'm gonna stick

26:56

with 176. And so basically, we held firm

26:59

the wave passed. And then as we started

27:01

to get into August or September people are like,

27:03

you know what? Maybe Florida was right.

27:05

Because at that point, they said the only way

27:08

COVID curve will bend down is a lock

27:10

down.

27:10

Right. If you don't do it, it's just exponential growth

27:12

176 fin 'The And and we showed

27:14

because I saw what happened in Sweden and other parts

27:16

of the world that that wasn't true. So 176

27:19

we got over that, a

27:21

lot of Floridians started to get confidence, because

27:23

I think, like, the first, you know, couple

27:25

months of it, what I was doing was not

27:27

popular. you know, I was popular going

27:29

into

27:30

COVID, it was not popular, the schools

27:32

were very unpopular because the elderly, you know, they

27:34

were

27:34

scared. Yeah. And they thought the schools would lead

27:36

to more. And I knew that wasn't the case. And so

27:38

we did. But then as we got over, then all of a

27:40

sudden, it's like, people are like ready.

27:43

The state started to boom. People

27:45

started coming down, and we were really

27:47

off to the races at that point. But I

27:49

would say, you know, that was really a critical juncture.

27:52

I think had I caved or or

27:54

buckled there, I think the the future

27:56

of the state would have been dramatically different. Oh,

27:58

yes. And and possibly something the the

28:00

future of the country. Because I think we

28:02

really because I took all the abuse,

28:04

that made it easier for other people to follow

28:07

in on path. Not at that point. Are you guys

28:09

out of state of emergency? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

28:11

Yeah. the only reason Except this is

28:13

not.

28:13

I just talked to the Freedom caucus. Yes,

28:16

when are we gonna get out of the Actually, what

28:19

we did. So we did the state of emergency for

28:21

about a year. The only reason I kept it is because

28:24

I used the state of 'The to force the schools

28:26

open. So I had to get through that first school

28:28

year to ensure that all schools in Florida

28:31

would be open. I probably would not have been

28:33

able to do that absent at the state of

28:35

'The. So that was our leverage because

28:38

III can control money. Basically, state

28:40

of 'The you to move money around a little bit 'The.

28:42

So we did that. It also allowed me

28:44

to overrule local 'The, and

28:46

particularly some of the liberal governments 176 You're

28:49

not gonna be penalizing people for

28:51

masks, no business closures. We

28:53

we set that down, and I needed the state of

28:55

emergency to do that. Then the legislature came

28:57

in the next spring, and we made these

29:00

these protections permanent. And we actually

29:02

I asked 'The. I said, do a bill

29:05

to reign in the governor's executive emergency

29:08

power 176 to reign in local governments.

29:10

And so Florida actually is constricted.

29:12

The powers, you know, one of the crazy things about this

29:14

176 you'd appreciate it. It was almost

29:16

not questioned in American history that

29:18

these local governments have, like, these massive

29:20

health health 'The. Like emergency

29:23

health 'The. 176 and I'm

29:25

just like, okay, you know, it's like, but

29:27

I couldn't find, so I was one of my concerns

29:29

when I'm fighting back against this. I was afraid I was

29:31

gonna lose in it on some 'The the law was not

29:33

great on it, but I think what happened was

29:35

I was strategic 176 when I was pulling these

29:37

levers so that when I would do it, you know,

29:40

I had like a lot of business guys excited,

29:42

people going back to work, and it made it harder

29:44

for a county to try to sue me

29:46

to basically throw people out of their

29:48

jobs, and so we were able to get through that.

29:50

And I never lost a case in

29:53

all the things that I was

29:54

doing. Did you

29:56

talk about this in the book with with

29:58

Birx? 176 it's a

30:00

little terrifying when she

30:01

said, well, this is kind of just our little

30:03

science 'The. Very much so.

30:06

Can you can you tell that story? So

30:08

the the white the White House task force was hammering

30:11

me for, like, the first like, really like three months

30:13

because they wanted me to be, you

30:16

know, clamping down harder. And 176

30:19

and she, you know, she she so I saw her colleague,

30:22

Deborah, tell me when an American

30:24

history monitor has this been done what were

30:26

the results? Because, like, I kinda feel like,

30:28

you know, we're flying blind here, and we may be doing

30:30

things or gonna be 'The. She said she's like,

30:33

you know, it's kind of our own science experiment that

30:35

we're doing in real 'The. And

30:37

that didn't sit well with me. I mean, you know,

30:39

you're citizen of a republic. You're not a guinea

30:42

pig. And so I

30:44

think that that there's a whole bunch of other things I

30:46

talk about in the book. You remember the

30:48

George Floyd riot Yeah. -- 'The --

30:51

Yeah. -- because people were saying, you've been

30:53

telling people to stand stand your

30:55

'The. And like in Florida, they were killing us because

30:57

even in those early days, you know, when we were

30:59

following federal guidelines loosely, but we

31:01

were find some. We were playing golf. I

31:03

mean, the village is, their their setting record for golf,

31:05

people are boating all this stuff. Mhmm. They were so mad

31:08

at Florida for doing the people on the beach, all this

31:10

stuff. That was their position. You are

31:12

killing people if you leave your house.

31:14

So then all these people are like, thousands of

31:16

people are protesting. Two thousand of these

31:18

epidemiologists write a letter

31:19

saying, We do not condemn

31:21

these protests because of COVID.

31:24

Indeed, we think they're vital for public

31:26

health because they're fighting

31:27

rates. It's a bigger disease. Then

31:30

COVID. And so that's that's what I knew.

31:32

Is this this public health

31:34

this public health a a clan

31:36

of people They are sick.

31:39

I mean, they are they are ideologically captured

31:41

176 these are not people that should be anywhere

31:44

near the levers of power So

31:46

I, basically, from that point on, I would

31:48

exclusively listen to a very handful

31:50

of people. You know, Badacharya from Stanford,

31:53

Martin Colder, from Harvard, Scott Atlas,

31:55

sinetra Gupta from Oxford, and then my surgeon

31:58

general, Joe Lattipo, we brought in from New Zealand.

32:00

Great. But I mean, Joe

32:02

Lattipo to this day is the

32:04

only surgeon general thought is the only state

32:06

that has said, don't give

32:08

MNRA shots to the babies to

32:11

month old babies. There's no evidence that this is

32:13

anything helpful, and we're basically

32:15

saying there's no evidence to do it. We don't know

32:17

what the what the 'The would 176. and there may

32:19

be some, but you don't even have to go there. If it's not

32:22

beneficial to you, don't put it in your arm. I mean,

32:24

that's just we're the only state that's done

32:26

that. Why? I think some of these other states

32:28

agree with us But in that

32:30

kind of profession, they

32:33

don't wanna buck pharma. They don't wanna buck

32:35

the consensus 176 so that was

32:37

something that but that letter was very eye

32:39

opening because it was just patently absurd. And

32:41

they actually said in that letter You

32:43

can protest for the George Floyd stuff,

32:46

but you can't protest against

32:47

lockdowns. Right. So they were drawing a content

32:50

based distinction between why you're

32:52

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32:53

like like the virus knows. Oh,

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wow.

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a woke virus come on. Yeah.

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I know you work hard for your money. I

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mean, I don't I sit here and talk to people like

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that at the beginning, you

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kinda held your breath, at least those of us

34:57

who watched it, kinda held our breath going. I

35:00

really agree with this. I hope this is right

35:02

because you were just

35:05

reestablishing a

35:07

'The Republic, you know what

35:09

I mean? You can't do this

35:11

to your people. And

35:15

now, the results are so clear.

35:18

Just based on the success, the health

35:20

and the welfare The economy,

35:23

everything about Florida, is

35:25

'The. Absolutely booming.

35:29

Why aren't we? I

35:31

hope you don't mind, but I'm gonna send these

35:33

to all fifty governors. I got fifty

35:36

of them made. And I'm not comparing

35:38

you to the other one that has a band,

35:40

but it's WWRD.

35:43

What would Ron do?

35:45

Why are the governors not

35:48

taking the things that have

35:50

a clear success record

35:53

and just mirror them.

35:55

I don't

35:56

understand just politically why are they

35:58

doing think I

35:59

think you're starting to see that, Doug. I mean, I think that's

36:01

one of the reasons I work so hard for reelection.

36:03

Because in this business, you have a guy

36:05

like 'The. I just wanna do what I think is right,

36:07

and I wanna be able to look in the mirror and say,

36:09

I'm fighting for the folks and I'm delivering

36:12

176 the political calculations just aren't

36:14

as important to me. I just figure, you know, it'll

36:16

all work out. But there's a lot of people in this

36:18

business that are different. You know, and they really wanna

36:20

know what the politics of

36:21

it. They wanna know what that means electronically. Well,

36:23

we now have a a

36:24

record rat. I came in 176

36:26

by thirty two thousand votes, you know,

36:29

closest one of the closest governor's races,

36:32

swing state, very very famous swing

36:34

state. says that now. Four years

36:36

later, we 176 by one point five million votes,

36:38

almost twenty to twenty point victory, and we

36:40

sweep in super majorities in the legislature, school

36:42

board, all this other stuff. I mean, we've left the

36:44

Democratic Party in Florida dead

36:46

on the side of the road. I mean, this has

36:48

been a a 'The, major realignment

36:51

So I think people are now looking

36:53

and I think they're saying, you know what? This

36:55

guy's doing this stuff. Yeah. The has

36:58

a spasm anytime he does anything. The left

37:00

has a spasm. But the vast majority

37:02

of the public thinks, this is common sense,

37:04

and he's speaking to people through that

37:06

media filter in ways that are effective.

37:08

So you are seeing now in state capitals.

37:10

I mean, Texas is gonna be doing a lot

37:12

of the stuff we're doing. I've already talked to some

37:14

of the legislators. They're ready to go. There

37:17

was an article that said do Santa's

37:19

shadow looms over state capitals

37:21

as they reconvene because people are looking

37:23

at the they're looking at the Florida

37:25

'The. And they're saying, okay, Florida did this.

37:27

We need to be doing this too. So I do think you're

37:29

starting to see it. I think I think it's

37:32

what's crazy is The people who write

37:34

that, it's not that you are some dictators

37:37

going against the people.

37:39

They all want 'The. Floridaians

37:42

love what you're doing. Yes. So

37:44

why do they have a problem when it's

37:46

popular with the people all of a sudden? not

37:49

only that, they will act like somehow this

37:51

is a perversion of the system to

37:53

put an idea in front of the legislature, have

37:56

them act favorably on it me

37:58

sign it into law execute it. How

38:00

constitutional government works. Right. But

38:02

they say that that's somehow bad. Meanwhile,

38:04

Obama and Biden, they do executive

38:07

orders. They even go through the legislature 176

38:09

the media praises that when they're

38:11

basically changing society and laws

38:13

through executive fiat. So they just

38:15

don't like what we're doing. Here's the thing. We're

38:18

beating them. That is why they're so

38:20

upset. We are beating the left

38:22

in Florida. And I don't think we've had an example

38:25

in my lifetime. Where you had

38:27

a government systematically beat

38:29

the left across a wider range

38:31

of issues and we beat them in the state

38:33

of

38:33

Florida. We beat them in a way that

38:35

has fundamentally realigned the state, and

38:37

think has put us on a trajectory to be the

38:39

leading red state in America for the next ten, twenty

38:42

years. I will tell you I'm again,

38:44

talking to 'The Cochise yesterday, say,

38:46

Texas. I

38:48

bet on Texas. And 176

38:52

know, my wife and I are looking at a place in

38:54

Florida. 176,

38:57

I mean, you've done horrible things. So the real estate

39:00

bad for people who try to wanna move in now.

39:02

It's the real estate is shot through the roof. It's

39:04

bad for my wife and I we we soon we have

39:06

young

39:07

'The, so we sold our house. Yeah. Moved

39:09

to the governor's 'The, and

39:11

we priced ourselves out of 'The. I

39:14

know. It's crazy. But, I mean, that's good

39:16

for the people of Florida. But

39:19

I I wanna address something that you and I

39:21

talked about 'The

39:24

two years ago.

39:28

And I wanna ask, again,

39:30

I Our

39:34

country has a problem that

39:36

cannot survive just

39:39

on this system of massive

39:42

swing this way. And then the next guy gets

39:44

in it's a massive swing that way.

39:46

It's destructive. And

39:48

that's because we are governing by

39:50

fiat. Tell me how

39:53

you are stripping

39:57

power So

39:59

you can't or restoring constitutional

40:01

norms in Florida. So when you leave,

40:03

because you can't do a third

40:05

term, when you leave, It

40:07

doesn't become New York. Yeah. Well, one

40:09

of the things I was able to do is we

40:11

had the most liberal supreme court in the country

40:13

for a long time and you remember Bush versus Goldman

40:16

Sachs. I get elected. It's

40:18

a four to three liberal split by that

40:20

'The, but three of the four liberals had

40:22

mandatory retirement. So the day I got

40:24

sworn in, they're off the court. So my

40:27

first month in office, I

40:29

put three conservatives to replace

40:31

the three Liberals. What that has done

40:33

is that has ended judicial activism

40:35

in state Florida. And all these justices

40:38

are between, like, forty four and fifty, so

40:40

they can serve till they're seventy five.

40:42

Now 'The of them may end up on federal courts or

40:44

whatever. But the bottom line is, That

40:46

had been one of the biggest biggest impediments

40:49

in Florida that you could win elections,

40:51

you could actually implement policy in a liberal

40:54

court would serve as a council of revision

40:56

--

40:56

Yeah. -- to basically veto things. They didn't,

40:58

like, politically, there was

40:59

anything wrong legally. So we were able to

41:01

do that. And so I think just having a judiciary

41:04

that's within its place is a huge,

41:06

huge positive, and so we were able to

41:08

do that. You know, our bureaucracy,

41:10

it's interesting. Our state's growing I have needs

41:12

to be able to bring services for people.

41:14

And had to, you know, do a lot more

41:17

people in this budget. But I'm 'The, I'm not just gonna

41:19

expand government. So whatever we added, we subtract

41:21

acted from other areas. So we're actually having

41:23

an even though the state's growing, a net reduction

41:26

in people serving in government

41:28

because we're looking to see what do you need and what

41:30

don't you need. You can't

41:32

do that in Washington. I mean, you

41:34

you go to Washington.

41:36

There are so many laws and rules, and you

41:38

can't fire people, etcetera, etcetera.

41:41

And do those people work

41:43

for the president? Or

41:46

do they work for the

41:48

Congress. I mean, they work for now.

41:51

Yeah. They they work for article. Their their

41:53

article to 'The. Right?

41:55

So why does Congress Why

41:57

would we need all the congressmen to

41:59

get together, to pass legislation,

42:02

to allow the president to fire his own 'The?

42:05

Here's the thing. I think the idea that

42:07

somehow you can't do anything at

42:09

all. We've just accepted that.

42:11

I I think that needs to be challenged. I 'The, just

42:14

think about it. You have some of these, quote, career

42:16

people. They're making policy decisions.

42:18

176 somehow, they didn't get elected,

42:21

they didn't get appointed in some can do it. So there

42:23

was a, you know, there's a proposal a lot of conservatives wanna

42:25

do including me for a long time. To classify,

42:27

think it's about fifty thousand in federal employees

42:30

classify them as a schedule f because

42:32

they are involved in policy. They have

42:34

discretion. Mhmm. Schedule f,

42:36

you serve it the pleasure of the president. Now that

42:38

will be challenged but I think you'd win

42:41

in this supreme court would have to. Yes,

42:43

I think you would. And and here's the thing too.

42:45

I think there's a difference between, you

42:47

know, if I'm like a supervisor at

42:49

like a low level and I fire you,

42:52

you know, maybe you have grievance procedures

42:54

or whatever. But if the president of the United

42:56

States invokes article too

42:58

to fire you. think the founding fathers

43:00

would have said they have every right to do that because

43:02

you can't insulate somebody because what

43:04

you're basically doing is your

43:07

you you're putting a check on the American

43:09

people's decisions. Right. Correct.

43:12

And that's not the way And they 'The

43:14

arrogant. I mean, we saw this in the state department

43:16

all the way back to this creation of Israel

43:19

where they threatened 'The.

43:21

You're not gonna do that. You're not gonna do that.

43:24

Yes. I 'The. And

43:26

they were determined to take him

43:28

down, and he had erased to microphone

43:30

to be able to announce 'The

43:32

they they were wrong about that. Correct.

43:34

And and I talked about in the book that

43:36

when president Trump came in, you

43:37

know, we were excited about getting the embassy

43:39

-- -- to Jerusalem. and

43:42

and he and he punted on it at first

43:44

because he was getting killed by everyone saying, don't

43:46

do it. Don't do it. So I get a trip over there because

43:48

I oversaw the state department on the subcommeres working

43:51

on. And I I met with CIA

43:53

state, all the people there at the embassy in Tel

43:55

Aviv, and I asked 'The, okay, if we move the embassy

43:57

what's gonna happen. Go around the

43:58

'The. There's plenty of time for everyone. World War three World

44:00

War three World. They all thought that.

44:02

Right? And they believe it. They believe it. Mhmm.

44:04

So you end up having the embassy move.

44:06

Did we have World War three? No. No.

44:09

No. And actually, I would argue the

44:11

embassy as much as getting out

44:13

of the Iran deal set the foundation for

44:15

the 'The, of course, because those Arab countries

44:17

are looking at it 176 they're like, they didn't want it 'The

44:19

to Jerusalem. But the fact that other

44:21

presidents had vocked at doing

44:23

it after they promised it -- Mhmm. -- it showed

44:26

strength -- Mhmm. -- and they respected the strength. And

44:28

so but that's the problem. It's like, these

44:30

people are insulated from accountability 176

44:33

they've just been wrong about so many

44:35

things. It's like, what's the use? How are they

44:37

serving our country

44:38

well? They're just entrenched,

44:41

and they basically have groupthink. 176 the

44:43

state department I

44:46

mean, you had oversight, so you you probably

44:48

know this. When the president

44:50

was impeached, I did

44:52

a 'The year long investigation

44:55

on just Ukraine. What

44:57

was happening in Ukraine? And

45:01

what we found was horrific,

45:03

horrific you know, we are

45:06

I mean, it was just another one of

45:08

the Arab spring countries in many

45:10

ways. You know, we are toppling the government

45:13

money is being laundered and lost

45:16

and everything else. And

45:18

now we have the

45:20

same people getting

45:22

us into this war in Ukraine.

45:26

And I

45:28

have to tell you, III

45:33

'The for the people of Ukraine. Putin

45:36

is a very bad guy. But I

45:38

can't find a white hat in this story

45:40

except for the people in all three countries.

45:42

K? I think our government

45:45

is absolutely corrupt. A

45:47

a hundred billion dollars with

45:49

nobody looking and going, hey, can I

45:51

get a receipt? K? In the

45:53

most corrupt country, and

45:56

then you have Putin on

45:59

that side, There's not

46:01

a good guy around.

46:04

And yet, I feel as though the

46:06

same people that said World War three

46:10

are almost dying

46:13

to get us into a war because either

46:16

they think they'll have the opportunity to

46:18

change the entire 'The, the entire

46:20

world, or they just think, you know what?

46:22

We've wanted to topple him for a long time in

46:24

their They're ripe for the picking

46:27

176 and not realizing because

46:29

of their arrogance, we are also

46:32

ripe for the picking. I mean, I

46:34

think Putin should be looking at us going.

46:36

This might be their

46:40

their spring that they did to

46:42

us, what what we did to

46:45

them with Gorbichoff and

46:47

Jeltsin, I think they're doing to

46:49

us right now. And think about what Putin's

46:51

already done, you know, the backdrop

46:53

for all this is the Russia collusion hoax

46:55

and hysteria. Correct. He puts very

46:58

little. Russia did very little in the election.

47:00

came what they did, like, some social media. Yeah. But

47:02

that was spun up to be some,

47:04

like, massive of conspiracy. They were trying

47:06

to act like Putin won the election

47:08

-- Mhmm. -- the twenty sixteen election, and

47:10

they took a country who, look,

47:12

Their interests are not aligned with ours.

47:14

Putin's a bad guy, but the threat

47:17

to us is orders of magnitude less

47:19

than China represents

47:21

to us. Yeah. But they elevated this

47:24

as like, you know, that they were about to

47:26

take over the White House. I 'The that

47:28

Time magazine cover that had the White

47:30

House half in the Kremlin and the rest

47:32

of it. Mhmm. I mean, it was massive hysteria. And

47:34

I think that's fueled a lot of

47:36

the stuff that we're seeing now. I mean,

47:38

how do you do a hundred billion dollars?

47:40

Your pinks pensions for

47:43

people and all this

47:43

stuff, and not 176 single accounting.

47:46

And and congress tried some of the guys

47:48

tried to get it 176. defense fought

47:50

back, state fought back, they

47:52

think that that our taxpayer money is just

47:54

their their

47:55

play, like, monopoly money, that they can just

47:57

use it however they wanna use it. And as a taxpayer

47:59

citizen, I am fed up.

48:02

I'm fed up. I mean, I know

48:04

what I can do and I do a lot of charitable

48:07

work. I create jobs. I

48:09

know what I can do with that money you

48:12

are taking that money

48:14

and just pissing it away.

48:16

Everything I've paid for my entire life

48:20

doesn't scratch the surface

48:22

of what they're spending right now.

48:24

On on anything 176 they're doing

48:26

that while neglecting --

48:29

Yes.

48:29

-- their core duties at 'The,

48:31

They're concerned about foreign borders. They're not

48:34

concerned about our own border. I mean, how

48:36

many people have died of drug overdoses in

48:38

the last year? I think it's 'The, like a hundred

48:40

and ten thousand. Yes. Most of those are fentanyl

48:42

overdoses, which is the opium

48:44

war that the British fought against China,

48:47

that China is now using with us. Yes. They're

48:49

sending it to the Mexican cartels, the car none

48:51

of the cartels are making some of their own now

48:54

and bring it across, but we have

48:56

tens of thousands of people dying This

48:58

regime does not want to secure the border.

49:00

They don't do anything to the drug cartels. They

49:02

put no pressure on Mexico. They're just

49:04

content to what happened. Biden brings up the

49:06

fentanyl desk from from the woman the

49:09

other day he's laughing -- I know. -- about

49:11

the fentanyl herbal. They also let

49:13

the 'The Chinese fly a

49:15

a spy balloon

49:16

clear across the United States. Clear

49:18

across our country, but

49:21

overmaneuvered over

49:23

strategic air command. And

49:27

nobody says anything. If

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49:32

cleaner air in your house, You

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is a problem. Sometimes you'll just cook things

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You're locked into people's houses you're just

49:44

like, okay, this smells weird. I hate

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that. I hate that. And you get so used

49:48

to your own house. You don't know what it smells

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but the refrigerator because there's

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because I'm in charge, sometimes I'm cleaning out the refrigerator.

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51:05

Glen. 'The me

51:07

show you something. I thought you would appreciate

51:09

this. This is from Steven

51:11

f Austin. This is

51:13

the conditions for the colonization of

51:16

Texas. And the reason why I brought it in

51:18

is because I would like a government that

51:20

treats their their people and

51:22

their country like Mexico treated

51:25

their country. So this is from

51:27

eighteen twenty five in his own hand going

51:30

to Mexico and saying we want to

51:32

open a little colony in Texas, what

51:35

do we need to do? Number

51:37

one, no people of ill

51:39

repute. We need to know who

51:41

they are. And if they ever

51:44

change, you must eject 'The

51:46

immediately. Number two,

51:48

Spanish speaking only

51:51

schools. You only speak

51:54

Spanish. 'The three,

51:56

you have to build churches,

51:59

and they have to be Catholic, Spanish

52:01

speaking churches. These guys, there's

52:03

like ten different things. They

52:06

did the things to protect their

52:08

country, and we went along

52:10

with it. Where

52:12

is our country

52:14

Where's anyone in our country

52:16

on the federal level that gives a crap

52:19

about our country? I know. I mean, and think about

52:21

it. What does how does the left view the border

52:23

'The the Democratic debates in twenty

52:25

twenty cycle. They basically say

52:28

border security having a wall

52:30

enforcing immigration law is

52:32

racist. They say you're a racist

52:34

just because you want the rule of law to prevail 176

52:36

think about it. We've had periods of our country. We've had

52:38

a lot of 'The, some less. Ellis

52:41

Island, if you stepped out a line, you're gone.

52:43

I mean, they had they had rules. People 'The

52:45

in either either they're rebited by it or you didn't,

52:47

if you didn't fit the criteria. That was the way it

52:49

is. And we need to reassert our

52:51

our right to govern ourselves at

52:54

the border. And in so many other ways,

52:56

look, in Florida, we're doing some

52:58

of the stuff with the universities. The the

53:00

media is like, oh my gosh, you're interfering with

53:02

universities. No. These are publicly funded

53:05

institutions 176 taxpayers

53:07

fund 'The. Are they accountable or

53:10

not? If they're accountable, it's through the people

53:12

as elected representatives. And so matter

53:15

of the person. And we're making sure we have

53:17

that mission set, but we've just

53:19

gotten away from this idea, you know,

53:22

that we have a right to make sure that

53:24

that we're doing things in in a way that that

53:26

is reflective of the values of of the people

53:28

that sent us to to

53:29

office. I don't wanna

53:31

send my kids to college. I

53:33

mean, I do, but unless

53:35

it's maybe two or three

53:37

colleges, Why would

53:39

I pay money to have

53:41

them destroy all of my

53:44

work in raising these kids?

53:46

I mean, you're not the only one that asked that. And

53:48

here's the thing, like, as a navy guy, I

53:50

look at, like, the service academies have gone

53:53

whoa. I mean, I used to think, like, you go to service

53:55

'The, like, unimpeachable. Right? There's

53:57

wokeness that that's that's crept in there even.

54:00

What we did in Florida So we're doing

54:02

a lot overall writ large universities, but we have

54:04

a small liberal arts college called New College

54:06

in Sarasota. Most people never heard

54:08

of 'The from prior to me getting involved. And

54:10

actually, some of the in the election, they wanted to close

54:12

it a couple years ago. I'm like, what is it even

54:14

doing? I mean, a very low enrollment, low

54:16

scores, and it is left

54:18

of the left. I 'The, it is basically

54:20

about ideology and about

54:23

leftist. And that's what the school's about. And

54:25

so I'm like, you know what? No. So I put six conservatives

54:27

on the board of trustees. They fired

54:29

the president. They brought in a conservative president.

54:31

They said the mission of this university is gonna

54:34

be to be the number one public class

54:36

sickle, liberal arts college

54:38

in America. It's gonna be kind of like our

54:40

Hillsdale College. We gave 'The fifteen

54:42

million dollars. They're gonna be able to recruit professors

54:45

from all across the country. They've already

54:47

eliminated their DEI department

54:50

and DEI 'The. And so I think

54:52

what you're gonna see 176 once the

54:54

people see the professors come in, you're gonna see

54:56

a flood of

54:57

applications.

54:57

We see you will. there's and it's interesting, there's professors

54:59

from all over the country and from very great

55:02

schools. That are asking the trustees,

55:04

reaching out 'The people I pointed saying, can I can

55:06

I come? How do I come? Because they're not my

55:08

guess is, my guess is they're not all conserved.

55:10

They're not, but they reject this oppressive

55:13

-- Correct. -- woke environment where

55:15

if you it's like you're walking on egg

55:16

shells, you say one thing and you can get

55:18

fired, That is not an But it's not only

55:21

that. Anyone who

55:23

truly wants to teach

55:26

and truly wants to learn

55:28

does not want one side.

55:31

I want somebody to challenge

55:33

me. That's how we that's

55:35

how we learn and grow. Opposition

55:38

in all things. So III

55:41

'The, I know a lot of classical

55:43

liberal people --

55:44

Yeah. -- that They believe

55:46

in that still. 176 of the things think that's

55:48

happened over the last generation is because

55:50

it's all been about imposing the orthodoxy I

55:52

think it's been a disservice to a lot of those liberal

55:55

students who have graduated because their assumptions

55:57

are never challenged. And so they don't

55:59

develop the sharpness of thought

56:01

that you really want these students to do,

56:03

they end up getting into corporate America, whatever there's

56:06

a lot of group think, but

56:08

there's not really a lot of really sharp

56:10

critical thinking And so we 'The make

56:12

make sure we have a situation where we're doing that.

56:15

But I think that overall, we're at

56:18

large, what's the purpose of a university?

56:20

I think it's the search search for truth.

56:22

I think it's academic rigor. I think it's

56:24

to teach kids that think for 'The, so they can

56:26

be citizens of our republic. It's not to impose

56:28

ideology. It's not for political

56:30

activism. It's not for social justice.

56:33

So we're making this pivot in Florida

56:35

176 with our money and the appointments and

56:37

everything and some of the rules we're doing. And I

56:39

think it's gonna be really, really significant. I think other red

56:41

states are fine Texas is gonna do. They're gonna

56:43

eliminate DEI just like just like we did.

56:45

I think you'll see Tennessee and these others doing

56:48

it. We have basically gone in

56:50

a situation. Republicans for generation 176 like, okay,

56:52

we need to get elected so we could cut taxes

56:54

then just leave everything else alone. Well, the

56:56

left has gone 176. they're using these

56:58

institutions to impose their worldview.

57:01

So what we're saying is, wait a 'The. These are not the

57:03

left institutions. These are the

57:05

people's institutions. 176 if the

57:07

people want to elect leftist to governor

57:09

and stuff in Florida, then then maybe the

57:11

institutions will reflect that, but they're not

57:13

doing that. They're going the other way. So we

57:15

have a responsibility to govern accordingly

57:17

and hold them

57:18

accountable, set the 'The, and

57:20

make sure that they're pursuing the best interest

57:22

of the state. So

57:25

As you look at all of the

57:28

problems that you're facing as

57:30

a state, education is

57:33

'The parental rights, 'The,

57:37

the end of this

57:40

this denial of

57:42

truth, massive. But the

57:44

other thing that the the left people

57:46

didn't see it coming and

57:48

it I started talking about it three, four years

57:50

ago. And even I

57:52

thought five years ago, it

57:54

that sounds like a conspiracy there. I

57:56

just can't be true. The

57:59

ESG and the great reset,

58:02

and the media 'The

58:06

everybody, said that's you're

58:08

you're crazy. That's not happening. We're

58:11

seeing it happen now in real

58:13

time And much

58:15

worse is

58:16

'The. Are we

58:18

winning? Are we making a dent

58:21

because of states like yours? We

58:23

are. I mean, I don't think there's any question. I mean, you

58:25

look at all these things. We're slang at

58:27

all. ESG, we're slang

58:29

that the DEI stuff, critical

58:31

race theory, were slaying that. We

58:33

were creating a model for really, I think what

58:36

a free society should be. Yes. 'The

58:38

for you to not be constrained by 'The. All

58:41

conservatives have always ab believe in that.

58:43

But also 'The for you to live

58:45

your life without having the pathologies of

58:48

the left imposed upon you -- Correct. -- from

58:50

all the other institutions in society. And

58:52

and maybe that's a woke corporation. 'The

58:54

THAT'S SOAROS FUNDS ADA.

58:57

IN YOUR COMMUNITY 176 THEN THIS D.

58:59

A. SAYS HE'S NOT ENFORCING A LOT, PUTTING

59:01

YOU AND YOUR FAMILY RISK. WE AT A SOAR DA Tampa

59:03

said he was gonna force the law. I removed

59:06

him from office, and he's litigating, but I'm winning

59:08

the cases. And, you know, you just

59:10

have to recognize that the threats

59:12

to freedom are more than just whether someone's

59:14

gonna come in and raise your taxes or

59:17

or pass a bad piece of legislation. So

59:19

I think Florida, we're fighting full spectrum. I

59:21

think more conservatives now across the country

59:23

are recognizing that we need to fight full spectrum.

59:25

I mean, this Disney thing, you know, that I have.

59:28

There's some people on the proverbial right

59:30

who who have criticized me, but I'll

59:32

tell you, the people

59:34

are with me on this one because they

59:36

understand Why are you gonna have a

59:38

situation where you have a company that's been

59:40

given its own 'The? All these state subs,

59:42

these privileges over decades? And

59:45

then they're gonna do woke activism against

59:47

your parents and your students. We're

59:49

subsidizing our own opposition. Are

59:51

you kidding me? So we said the ballgame's over.

59:54

And we got rid of their self governing status.

59:56

That's not a perversion of the free

59:57

market. That perversion,

59:59

honestly, would the perversion Was

1:00:02

the original deal with Walt? Of course.

1:00:04

Yeah. Yeah.

1:00:07

I I just released some information

1:00:10

on the

1:00:12

what are they calling it? The Inflation

1:00:15

Reduction Act It's actually

1:00:17

the build back better act. And we have pieced

1:00:19

pieces together that

1:00:22

show that We

1:00:24

are now paying a hundred

1:00:27

and fifty percent of your

1:00:29

profit. If you have a coal fire

1:00:31

play, one hundred and fifty

1:00:33

percent of your profit for the next

1:00:35

ten years. If

1:00:37

you will not only shut that power plant

1:00:40

down, But then,

1:00:42

you only get the money if you sell

1:00:44

it or dismantle it. K?

1:00:47

We I read another study just

1:00:49

this morning that shows that we

1:00:52

have the

1:00:54

projection is that we will be short

1:00:57

by twenty five percent power

1:01:01

'The what we have now, if

1:01:04

you are you already know

1:01:06

that they're shutting them down then you take

1:01:08

away those plants, so you can't Recreate

1:01:11

that power. 176

1:01:13

'The not gonna ask you to comment on this. Personally,

1:01:16

I think that's the closest thing I've actually seen

1:01:18

to treason. You are dismantling

1:01:21

the ability for America to

1:01:24

survive because you have

1:01:26

a global warming scheme and you

1:01:28

are taking billions and

1:01:30

billions of dollars and

1:01:32

incentivizing people. We're doing

1:01:35

to our power, what we are now, what we

1:01:37

used to do to our

1:01:38

'The, and still are doing to our farmers.

1:01:41

And I think that it allows them to control

1:01:43

us. I mean, that's what they wanna do. How

1:01:46

stupid can you be to try to

1:01:48

neuter our own ability to produce our

1:01:51

own reliable energy. If they're doing it? No.

1:01:53

I know. But I mean, the question is is, How

1:01:55

does that make our country stronger to

1:01:57

be relying on? And here's the thing.

1:01:59

Biden will not want it done here. He'll

1:02:01

go beg Maduro for oil. He'll go beg

1:02:03

other people for oil. You know, everything

1:02:05

we produce in terms of fossil fuels is so

1:02:07

much it's done so much cleaner here

1:02:09

than it is in these other countries. Are you kidding

1:02:12

me? So it's all it's all for

1:02:14

them to exert more control over us.

1:02:16

That's what all this is about. And,

1:02:18

you know, the good thing about it is is that, you know,

1:02:20

some of the stuff can be, I think,

1:02:22

can be remedied through changing some of the bureaucratic

1:02:25

rules because there's a lot of people that out there in

1:02:27

these industries that really want to get going again

1:02:29

but they just can't under the current 'The. Thinking

1:02:32

about making it their own bank

1:02:35

just for energy. Yeah. In

1:02:37

Florida, look, I have

1:02:39

private investor utility. So, like,

1:02:41

you know, they they have they're on they they have investors

1:02:43

that they so they have to make money. And and

1:02:45

I have some that are doing more so not. We

1:02:47

don't have subsidies or anything like that. They're doing it.

1:02:49

And it it's economical in certain

1:02:51

situations.

1:02:51

I have solar on my house. No. I

1:02:54

think it's fine. But here's the thing. Don't

1:02:56

force me to do it. When I had hurricane

1:02:58

176 'The through, you know, we had

1:03:00

millions of people knocked out of power. We

1:03:02

did the that we had fifty two thousand 'The men

1:03:04

get it restored. Largest restoration

1:03:07

fastest in in history. I

1:03:09

needed oil and gas. Like, you know, I just wasn't

1:03:11

the wind and solar We're not gonna get those

1:03:13

people going again. Yes. You had to have

1:03:15

it. We actually had some people who

1:03:17

had the the electric cars, and some

1:03:19

'The them were catching on fire because of the salt water

1:03:21

and all that stuff. But if you can't charge

1:03:23

it, then you're you're having that tank of gas

1:03:26

in your truck or your car can mean everything.

1:03:28

So we are not gonna be without

1:03:30

fossil fuels in our lifetime. And if we

1:03:32

try to go without fossil fuels in our lifetime,

1:03:35

you are gonna see the the standard of living

1:03:37

'The you're gonna see our security 'The,

1:03:40

and it's gonna be a disaster. You have

1:03:42

some of the biggest ranches and farms

1:03:44

in your -- Yeah. -- in your state.

1:03:46

What about fertilizer?

1:03:50

We we we produce fertilizer. Actually, you know,

1:03:52

we have some of the bigger fertilizer companies

1:03:55

you know, some of these ESG, they're targeting

1:03:57

that. I know. How the hell are you gonna feed people,

1:03:59

Glenn, without fertilizer? I mean, like, you you know,

1:04:01

you need it. Yeah. and we've dealt

1:04:03

with issues because what, you know, on the farms

1:04:05

or whatever, if it rains, you know, there'll

1:04:07

be runoff. It goes we have big lake of kechobee.

1:04:10

You know, it can create like algae. just said,

1:04:12

you know what? I'm gonna deal with it. So we've

1:04:14

done stuff to clean the lake. We've created reservoirs

1:04:16

to clean the water. And we're restoring

1:04:18

the everglades, which had to put some love into

1:04:21

it. But we're doing it all. The

1:04:23

left really wanted to attack to to target

1:04:25

the fertilizer because they think it's it's so dirty

1:04:27

but it's

1:04:27

like, you need this to be able

1:04:29

to have a disease society. think there's a

1:04:31

lot of people, though, unfortunately. 'The Cameron

1:04:34

just came out and said,

1:04:38

What was the oh, shoot. What was the Marvel

1:04:40

comic guy that had all of the

1:04:42

stones? I'm sorry. You probably don't even know this.

1:04:44

That you know, evaporated. It just

1:04:46

took and disintegrated fifty

1:04:48

percent of the universe's population. And

1:04:51

James Cameron said, I 'The, nobody

1:04:53

wants to really do that, but that's not a

1:04:55

bad

1:04:55

idea. There's a strain 176 the left

1:04:57

that thinks there's too many people in this land danger

1:05:00

176 they wanna see. And it's totally wrong.

1:05:02

I mean, like, you know, we have the we

1:05:04

need more people. We need bigger families

1:05:06

in the United States. I mean, if you really wanna

1:05:08

do that's the truth. So so but but it

1:05:10

it really leads to some

1:05:12

very, very ugly things in terms of what

1:05:14

they would do in terms of policy. So let

1:05:16

me let me leave you with this

1:05:18

because the last few chapters you talk about

1:05:21

you know, playing offense, not defense.

1:05:24

You talk about 'The America,

1:05:26

Florida. To

1:05:30

get there, we have to have

1:05:33

176 I haven't seen them. We

1:05:35

have to have somebody who not only

1:05:37

can do it. But can stand

1:05:40

in like John F. Kennedy and say,

1:05:42

we're going there. And

1:05:45

we do it because it's hard.

1:05:47

But that's what we do. We

1:05:49

need a vision and

1:05:52

an 'The again.

1:05:55

Ipirabasunum, what is it? That

1:05:57

brings us all together. What is

1:05:59

the vision for the future?

1:06:02

I think in Florida, what we've done is

1:06:04

we've articulated what a free society

1:06:07

means in the twenty first century. So

1:06:09

yes, being a protected against government

1:06:11

overreach Also being protected

1:06:13

against big tech censorship, big

1:06:15

tech overreach, some of the corporate

1:06:17

discrimination that we see what you own a gun

1:06:20

store and you're not gonna have access to be

1:06:22

able to to have capital or any of that,

1:06:24

making sure you have access to an education

1:06:27

that's not going to impose an agenda on

1:06:29

your students. We've worked very hard to do that.

1:06:31

So I think what we're doing is we're protecting

1:06:33

the individual space to be able

1:06:36

to make the most of their lives, on own lives,

1:06:38

on their own 'The. Without having

1:06:40

to play on the playground to

1:06:42

the left. And we've really insulated

1:06:44

our folks from that. So I think looking forward, like,

1:06:46

if you look at nationwide, you know,

1:06:48

we've got very politicized elites

1:06:51

that are not popular with the public. What

1:06:53

they're selling is not

1:06:54

popular, that's why they

1:06:55

have a lot of they have a lot of cultural cash

1:06:57

They've got a lot of political cache. And I think

1:07:00

in Florida, what we've shown is, you know, you can beat

1:07:02

the elites you can win victories

1:07:04

for people. And 'The, that's what's gonna do.

1:07:06

This ruling class is gonna need to be DEPOSED',

1:07:09

and you're gonna have to have strong

1:07:11

leaders, not just whoever is the president,

1:07:13

But, I mean, you need patriotic Americans across

1:07:16

this country that may be willing to go to Washington

1:07:18

for two to four years to serve, 'The

1:07:21

in the mid level of the bureaucracy, because

1:07:23

unless we have people that have that

1:07:25

mindset, then, you know, it's not all

1:07:27

gonna work anyways. And so I I think people

1:07:30

get it. I think and I've had people come up to

1:07:32

me saying like, look, I'm doing well. I'm

1:07:34

willing to put that on hold to come help

1:07:36

in whatever way. And I think people see that

1:07:38

because for too long, you know, we I think we've

1:07:40

kinda just hope that things would would get better

1:07:43

and maybe you win an election or

1:07:45

something. I think people realize the problems are a little

1:07:47

bit more profound. Brown,

1:07:49

thank you very much. Thank you.

1:07:56

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1:07:58

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